I'll be spending some time in the US and got the $50 AT&T unlimited GoPhone plan. Everything looks fine except my data speeds are too low. I get 500 kbps, while the signal says H+. (Btw I had to call them to put my IMEI in their database so that the data is enabled). In Serbia I'd get 4-5 Mbps with H+, sometimes higher. What's the deal?
I found the same thing with the Rogers/Fido network in Vancouver. Galaxy S II only gets 3 Mbps where as on the Bell network it had over 8 Mbps.
If you don't have an agreement with AT&T are there any other networks you can try that may offer better speeds in your area?
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The Goplan has a data speed cap, that's why it's so cheap.
I wouldn't call $50 a month cheap... but anyway, is there any way around it?
Deusdies said:
I wouldn't call $50 a month cheap... but anyway, is there any way around it?
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You'd have to switch to a post paid plan instead of prepaid.
Except there's a 2 year contract requirement and I'm only going to be here by the end of december.
If you read the fine print the $50 unlimited is only for non-smart phones. The sgii will not work, you will have to add a data plan to use the internet. I'm kind if in the same boat (I'm on a gophone plan), I can no longer send mms without enabling data. They ran a sweep and found out which phone I was using. The sgii is not supported on the network, or so I was told because it is a 4g phone. So I'm back to the inspire.
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I tried the iphone 2G trick to get Unlimited data (2G).
I get it, and put back the sim in my SGS2.
And it still get the speed of HSPA
Weird
is it safer now to move to Personal Smartphone dataplan (30 vs 20)
What's the iPhone 2G trick? It'd still be HSDPA speeds as that's what the SIM allows. The phone is restricted to to 2G and the carried will be able to see what speeds you're getting and move you to a limited package if you're not careful.
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Att can call it whatever they want. But for unlocked devices you get unlimited data 2g/3g/H/H+ on your device depending on your carrier and whats available in your area.
I could have got the unlimited non-smartphone plan but I stuck with the 2g iphone plan just incase I ever get an att device I will still have grandfathered unlimited data.
To be on safe side incase you ever use your att upgrade, switch to the grandfathered unlimited 30 plan.
I can't tell from his post but he may be on AT&T in the U.S. They have a dumb-phone unlimited data plan that you can use on a smartphone as long as they don't have the phone's IMEI in their database. A lot of us in the U.S. are using it with the SGS2 and getting HSPA+ speeds for $20 a month including unlimited MMS. Helps offset the ridiculous prices we've paid for the phone.
To future proof your data plan, I would say ge the $30 data plan or stay on the unlimited 2g iphone plan.
There is no point of the iphone 2g trick, if you switch to dumbphone plan.
Sorry, yes i am in us with ATT
Ok I see, so as long as the IMEI is not in ATT database, so i can use it.
If one day our cheer SGS2 has it IMEI in ATT, so my plan may be revoke in worst case or will be grandfather.
So if i want to futur proof at 100% it is better to go to the $30 smartphone plan (I still have my inspire)
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There absolutely no chance att will have an unlocked version uk or anyother non att branded phone in there database.
The only few phones(and small %) were unlocked nexus one and dell streak imei were in att database.
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hate to bring back a thread thats several months old but i was wondering if the dumbphone plan still works for getting unlocked/UK GS2 phones to have unlimited HSPA+ data?
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hate to bring back a thread thats several months old but i was wondering if the dumbphone plan still works for getting unlocked/UK GS2 phones to have unlimited HSPA+ data?
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Yup. I'm on it. Though it is probably throttled. The fastest speed I've gotten is around 6.5mbps, and I average around 3-4.
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Yup. I'm on it. Though it is probably throttled. The fastest speed I've gotten is around 6.5mbps, and I average around 3-4.
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Would you mind sharing your APN settings? are you using the cingular apn settings?
just got my phone and i was originally getting about 3mb down, but now i am getting 1.6 mb down, but it could just be because of the rom that i am running.
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Would you mind sharing your APN settings? are you using the cingular apn settings?
just got my phone and i was originally getting about 3mb down, but now i am getting 1.6 mb down, but it could just be because of the rom that i am running.
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Using wap.cingular. My speed varies quite a bit. 1.6 isn't that bad.
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EDIT: just ran again. got 1.885 down, .999 up. Last 4 results before that are:
4.1 down, 1.05 up
5.36 down, 1.05 up
2.37 down, 1.01 up
2.97 down, 1.13 up.
So, all over the place.
your right, it does vary quite a bit. i was able to get a few 4-5 pulls, then a few 3-4 pulls. So that is fine, still faster then what i am coming from at almost any given time.
Thank you.
So I bought an Optimus T to use with simple mobile and the data speeds suuuuuck. I was looking on amazon and saw that you can buy a GoPhone Sim card. Could I buy the sim card and activate the $50 unlimited plan with ATT prepaid on my Optimus T if I unlock it? I just can't stand these data speeds and I need a good deal cause I'm a 17 year old student with not much funds and pay for all my own needs and help pay household bills since my dad is outta work. Any tips and good ideas to fix my problem are greatly appreciated!
God bless and merry christmas!
You need to unlock it first, just search "lg optimus t unlock" on ebay for a code. I believe on AT&T you can only get 2G data and not 3G because the Optimus T doesn't have the right band.
T-Mobile prepaid has unlimited data for $30/mo. and 3G works with T-mobile.
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You need to unlock it first, just search "lg optimus t unlock" on ebay for a code. I believe on AT&T you can only get 2G data and not 3G because the Optimus T doesn't have the right band.
T-Mobile prepaid has unlimited data for $30/mo. and 3G works with T-mobile.
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Is it unthrottled? I'm assuming yes because it's t-mobile lol
I heard somewhere though, if I switch to the 60 dollar plan, it'll unthrottle the data speed and give me relatively reliable speed, any idea if that's true?
*edit: it says on the website that on the 30/mo plan you get 4g speeds up to 5gb, but my phone is only 3g, so will they throttle me?
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Is it unthrottled? I'm assuming yes because it's t-mobile lol
I heard somewhere though, if I switch to the 60 dollar plan, it'll unthrottle the data speed and give me relatively reliable speed, any idea if that's true?
*edit: it says on the website that on the 30/mo plan you get 4g speeds up to 5gb, but my phone is only 3g, so will they throttle me?
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I don't know if t-mobile will sell just a sim card,I bought p-509 prepaid $50 mo. unlimited data and it works great untill they throttle me back after 400mb then it works like simple mobile.p-509 is NOT a 4G phone, but at full speed with t-mobile it is pretty DAMN fast.They offered me a upgrade to full speed unlimited for $60 mo.If that is the plan your offered "go for it"[email protected]? not sure, I forgot my speedtest results but I rember it was acceptable at full speed.
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I don't know if t-mobile will sell just a sim card,I bought p-509 prepaid $50 mo. unlimited data and it works great untill they throttle me back after 400mb then it works like simple mobile.p-509 is NOT a 4G phone, but at full speed with t-mobile it is pretty DAMN fast.They offered me a upgrade to full speed unlimited for $60 mo.If that is the plan your offered "go for it"[email protected]? not sure, I forgot my speedtest results but I rember it was acceptable at full speed.
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Yeah I'm going in to pay my bill today and I'm considering switching to either the 60 dollar Simple Mobile plan or the 30 Dollar T-Mobile plan. I tried my sisters T-Mobile similar card in my phone and was getting 2.5mbps right off the bat. but I need the unlimited calling that the simple mobile 60 dollar plan includes so we'll see how this goes.
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Does anyone know of any fix for the HSPA+ SGSII I9100 throttle problem?
Is anyone even working on a throttle removal process for this phone?
When I originally got my phone I was using the wap.Cingular APN and was actually getting pretty fast speeds. I then went into the AT&T store and switched my unlimited 3G to unlimited 4G and it seems that the speeds have sort of crapped out. If throttling is the issue I would love a fix. Hopefully someone that may have more information than me can enlighten us
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Does anyone know of any fix for the HSPA+ SGSII I9100 throttle problem?
Is anyone even working on a throttle removal process for this phone?
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Throttling is done on the network gateway. To get around speed throttling, you have to be on the right data plan (4G of some kind), and you have to be connecting to the right gateway. The wap.cingular APN is throttled. 4G phones have a different APN. I think that APN is just "phone". There are a bunch of threads that already exist on this subject, just search for them.
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When I originally got my phone I was using the wap.Cingular APN and was actually getting pretty fast speeds. I then went into the AT&T store and switched my unlimited 3G to unlimited 4G and it seems that the speeds have sort of crapped out. If throttling is the issue I would love a fix. Hopefully someone that may have more information than me can enlighten us
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As I said above, if you changed your plan from 3g to 4g, you will probably have to update your APN to point to the correct gateway. wap.cingular will only get you the lower end of HSPA+ speeds. You want the "phone" APN. Search is your friend.
Trust me Bro. I searched like crazy. The fix seems to be for LTE phones.
I got the international SGII about a month ago. It's only HSPA+. One week after I bought it they came out with the lte version on att. what a bummer.
It seems all the threads online are about lte phones, switching the APN back to HSPA+. I tried some of those fixes to no avail. still throttled at .13 mb. I'm only 8 days into my billing cycle and this is unacceptable as one can't even open a website. it seems the ping speed has quadrupled.
I'm due for an upgrade and my contract would end in few days. I was wondering if there exists a fix for this on an HSPA+ phone or should I just go and upgrade to skyrocket. There's no way I can go on with .13 for the rest of the month.
If anyone knows of a fix on HSPA+ phones that would be great.
BTW, when I bought the phone, I called att and tried to add the new phone imei it came out as a Blackberry. I told them to add the 4g plan but I really don't know if they did it. The lady was like you should have a blackberry plan. So I told her to just keep my iphone data plan unchanged.
My phone then on it's own was pulling HSPA+ speeds up to 7mb/s so I didn't care.
Do you think I should call back and make sure I have a 4G plan added?
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Trust me Bro. I searched like crazy. The fix seems to be for LTE phones.
I got the international SGII about a month ago. It's only HSPA+. One week after I bought it they came out with the lte version on att. what a bummer.
It seems all the threads online are about lte phones, switching the APN back to HSPA+. I tried some of those fixes to no avail. still throttled at .13 mb. I'm only 8 days into my billing cycle and this is unacceptable as one can't even open a website. it seems the ping speed has quadrupled.
I'm due for an upgrade and my contract would end in few days. I was wondering if there exists a fix for this on an HSPA+ phone or should I just go and upgrade to skyrocket. There's no way I can go on with .13 for the rest of the month.
If anyone knows of a fix on HSPA+ phones that would be great.
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I also have the unlocked international Galaxy SII. I am on the unlimited data plan for non-smartphones, using the wap.cingular APN. I'm averaging around 3.5-4 mbps down. Fastest I've seen is about 6.5mbps. This is fast enough for me; I would prefer getting unlimited data for the price I'm paying anyways, rather than pay twice as much as I do now only to be capped at 2gb per month.
Maybe you flashed a different modem to your phone without knowing it. What is your setup? Custom ROM? etc?
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BTW, when I bought the phone, I called att and tried to add the new phone imei it came out as a Blackberry. I told them to add the 4g plan but I really don't know if they did it. The lady was like you should have a blackberry plan. So I told her to just keep my iphone data plan unchanged.
My phone then on it's own was pulling HSPA+ speeds up to 7mb/s so I didn't care.
Do you think I should call back and make sure I have a 4G plan added?
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You can check your account online. If you log in, and go to myAT&T > Wireless > Usage & Recent Activity, under Data it will list your data - If yours contains a string that looks like HSPDDB, it is 4G unlimited. If it only contains DPPB, it is 3G unlimited. Mine (for the unlimited data for non-smartphones) says GPRS WAP UNLTD DOM - DTAU.
EDIT: you said above it was pulling HSPA+ speeds up to 7mbps... what changed? Did you flash a custom ROM? New kernel? New modem? I find it very weird that your speeds would suddenly drop from 7mpbs to 0.13mbps for no reason.
Using the phone APN and a 4G plan will get you the fastest speeds. Back when I was on a 3G plan, I could only rarely connect to the phone APN, and could get only about 7 Mbps top speed. When I switched to a 4G plan, I found I could consistently connect to the phone APN, and my top speed went up to about 9.5 Mbps.
Note that speeds on either APN are highly variable; I can get 9 Mbps one time, then only 1-2 Mbps a couple minutes later.
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EDIT: you said above it was pulling HSPA+ speeds up to 7mbps... what changed? Did you flash a custom ROM? New kernel? New modem? I find it very weird that your speeds would suddenly drop from 7mpbs to 0.13mbps for no reason.
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Allegedly, I am in the top 5% data users at only 3.1 GB.
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Allegedly, I am in the top 5% data users at only 3.1 GB.
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Oh, I see. You're getting throttled because you've used tons of data this cycle. So it sounds like you are not on an unlimited plan, but a capped plan. If you're supposed to be on an unlimited plan, I would call them up and fight tooth and nail to get it back.
But seriously, I'm on an unlimited plan, but I don't use nearly that much data (3.1 GB!!!) in 8 days. Heck, I hardly ever go over 2 GB in one entire billing cycle.
The only thing I can recommend is for you to hook up to Wi-Fi as much as possible. I have Wi-Fi at home and work, so when I am there, it is not consuming my data plan allowance. Besides, Wi-Fi will end up with a more consistent speed (usually faster). HSPA+ tends to vary wildly in download speeds. In addition to that, Wi-Fi tends to consume less battery. There are a lot of reasons to use Wi-Fi if it is available instead of HSPA+.
Take it as you will, that's just my advice.
my SG2 is not flashed. still on custom samsung ROM.
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Oh, I see. You're getting throttled because you've used tons of data this cycle. So it sounds like you are not on an unlimited plan, but a capped plan. If you're supposed to be on an unlimited plan, I would call them up and fight tooth and nail to get it back.
But seriously, I'm on an unlimited plan, but I don't use nearly that much data (3.1 GB!!!) in 8 days. Heck, I hardly ever go over 2 GB in one entire billing cycle.
The only thing I can recommend is for you to hook up to Wi-Fi as much as possible. I have Wi-Fi at home and work, so when I am there, it is not consuming my data plan allowance. Besides, Wi-Fi will end up with a more consistent speed (usually faster). HSPA+ tends to vary wildly in download speeds. In addition to that, Wi-Fi tends to consume less battery. There are a lot of reasons to use Wi-Fi if it is available instead of HSPA+.
Take it as you will, that's just my advice.
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I understand. I've been using my phone because I've been traveling and sometimes wifi is not an option. I use data a lot for my work. I do have a grandfathered unlimited.
I just got my wife the GSII Skyrocket on AT&T and her phone is getting much faster data than mine. She is averaging around 1 mbps faster download speeds but the real killer is her ping, which is consistently between 50-69 ms. Mine never goes below 100 ms. I am on the 4G plan and I am using the phone APN. Her phone has a different apn ("pta" instead of "phone"). I tried the pta apn but it wouldn't connect to data so maybe that is somehow reserved for phones with an LTE sim card? I'm really not sure but I want that faster speed. Any idea what is causing her to get better speeds? FYI before anyone asks we are NOT in an LTE area so both phones were on HSPA+ during my tests.
EDIT: I just tried again and her download speeds are double mine (mine was 3 she was over 6). I expect the AT&T phone to be slightly more optimized for their network but this is ridiculous. Something has to be wrong it can't be this much of a difference.
I was going to go with simple mobile but then saw I would only be able to get EDGE so I was thinking about getting a gophone and using that so I can get 3G. I went to go pick up a go phone simply and saw the 50 plan says its not for smartphone.
Will my internet work if I just get the monthly unlimited plan? Are there any other options and if i was to just go with simple mobile simple is EDGE that slow?
Any help is appreciated!!!
have you looked into h2o wireless? Last i heard they functioned on at&t network so you'd get full 3g
Yea I have looked at H20 and I'm not sure how long 1gb of data is gonna last for 60 a month. I know in the past I saw people using go phone sims with iphones and just wanted to know lf it's still working while getting internet on the 50 a month plan without buying a data plan also..l
hey this is off topic but, your talking about these data plans etc, ive seen a few posts on here regarding this. in my opinion they all seem a little pricey?
what exactly are you getting for 50 or 60 dollars a month?? here in the uk for 15 usd(10 gbp) i get 250 mins any network, unlimited texts any network, and unlimited data, which is hsdpa (7.2mbps) or 3g in lower signal areas
so my question is what are you getting for your money and why so expensive?
also im pay as you go, are your plans contract or pay as you go?
Only att is pricey, if you have metro pcs or simple mobile its only 50 a month with unlimited talk text and web.
But why is it so pricey?? I guess its a contract??
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I really don't know.
Does anybody know if using the sim from a e71 with straight talk still working?
I use 3 in the UK
The One Plan.
2,000 any network minutes
5,000 Three-to-Three minutes
5,000 texts and All You Can Eat internet ( With no "fair usage" policy, you can use all the data you want at no extra cost. )
£25 p/m
And tethering is allowed
Anybody else got any info???
I asked this in the Note section as they have a different issue as ATT CAN see their devices as "smartphones" Many have spoken of GoPhone as an option for UL data and messaging.
We are off contract with two i9100s on $15 MediaNet sharing 700 minutes with NO messaging plan. We are paying $100 a month.
Seems to me we can transfer to a GoPhone plan for $50 with unlimited everything using any device (except maybe the iPhone) Why not use that advantage especially since LTE is not widely available and some may not really need the extra speeds.
What am I missing? We already get 3G+ (H) data speeds using the wap.cingular apn provisioned for MediaNet using our actual i9100 IMEIs
Does gophone sim work on your sgs2? A month ago i tried putting gosim to my sgs2 unkocked but didn't work. Dunno why.
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The gophone plan suffers from a download speed cap, compared to just being on the medianet plan.
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The gophone plan suffers from a download speed cap, compared to just being on the medianet plan.
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Really? Didn't know that because they are selling the Captivate on the GoPhone plan.
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Does gophone sim work on your sgs2? A month ago i tried putting gosim to my sgs2 unkocked but didn't work. Dunno why.
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No I am not on that plan I am doing some research into possibly switching to it though. I am reading conflicting information on download speeds. Guess I should just call ATT.
EDIT called ATT. Claimed Speeds were the same as what we were getting now on MediaNet But Data would cost the same for a smart phone as a regular plan. So technically one could do the same as we are doing ow on the regular plan. give them the IMEI of the phone we are using and it will show up as a Dumbphone and get $50 Unlimited everything using the MediaNet APN
ATT has our SGS i9100 IMEIs If they did a sweep they would see them anyway. So I gave them the real ones. I have been on mine since last July. I may switch over to Gophone. Probably only need to call them and say switch us. The Additional benefit would be messaging which we do not currently have and unlimited calling.
We are paying $100 now without messaging and 700 minutes.