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Hi,
I tried the iphone 2G trick to get Unlimited data (2G).
I get it, and put back the sim in my SGS2.
And it still get the speed of HSPA
Weird
is it safer now to move to Personal Smartphone dataplan (30 vs 20)
What's the iPhone 2G trick? It'd still be HSDPA speeds as that's what the SIM allows. The phone is restricted to to 2G and the carried will be able to see what speeds you're getting and move you to a limited package if you're not careful.
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Att can call it whatever they want. But for unlocked devices you get unlimited data 2g/3g/H/H+ on your device depending on your carrier and whats available in your area.
I could have got the unlimited non-smartphone plan but I stuck with the 2g iphone plan just incase I ever get an att device I will still have grandfathered unlimited data.
To be on safe side incase you ever use your att upgrade, switch to the grandfathered unlimited 30 plan.
I can't tell from his post but he may be on AT&T in the U.S. They have a dumb-phone unlimited data plan that you can use on a smartphone as long as they don't have the phone's IMEI in their database. A lot of us in the U.S. are using it with the SGS2 and getting HSPA+ speeds for $20 a month including unlimited MMS. Helps offset the ridiculous prices we've paid for the phone.
To future proof your data plan, I would say ge the $30 data plan or stay on the unlimited 2g iphone plan.
There is no point of the iphone 2g trick, if you switch to dumbphone plan.
Sorry, yes i am in us with ATT
Ok I see, so as long as the IMEI is not in ATT database, so i can use it.
If one day our cheer SGS2 has it IMEI in ATT, so my plan may be revoke in worst case or will be grandfather.
So if i want to futur proof at 100% it is better to go to the $30 smartphone plan (I still have my inspire)
Thx
There absolutely no chance att will have an unlocked version uk or anyother non att branded phone in there database.
The only few phones(and small %) were unlocked nexus one and dell streak imei were in att database.
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hate to bring back a thread thats several months old but i was wondering if the dumbphone plan still works for getting unlocked/UK GS2 phones to have unlimited HSPA+ data?
jerseykat1 said:
hate to bring back a thread thats several months old but i was wondering if the dumbphone plan still works for getting unlocked/UK GS2 phones to have unlimited HSPA+ data?
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Yup. I'm on it. Though it is probably throttled. The fastest speed I've gotten is around 6.5mbps, and I average around 3-4.
ctomgee said:
Yup. I'm on it. Though it is probably throttled. The fastest speed I've gotten is around 6.5mbps, and I average around 3-4.
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Would you mind sharing your APN settings? are you using the cingular apn settings?
just got my phone and i was originally getting about 3mb down, but now i am getting 1.6 mb down, but it could just be because of the rom that i am running.
jerseykat1 said:
Would you mind sharing your APN settings? are you using the cingular apn settings?
just got my phone and i was originally getting about 3mb down, but now i am getting 1.6 mb down, but it could just be because of the rom that i am running.
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Using wap.cingular. My speed varies quite a bit. 1.6 isn't that bad.
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EDIT: just ran again. got 1.885 down, .999 up. Last 4 results before that are:
4.1 down, 1.05 up
5.36 down, 1.05 up
2.37 down, 1.01 up
2.97 down, 1.13 up.
So, all over the place.
your right, it does vary quite a bit. i was able to get a few 4-5 pulls, then a few 3-4 pulls. So that is fine, still faster then what i am coming from at almost any given time.
Thank you.
I don't know if anyone's seen this yet, but for all the US users currently on AT&T, they'll begin to offer a $50 prepaid unlimited plan on June 26th. It'll include unlimited minutes, data, and text (including international text).
I just wanted to get a discussion going to see if this will work with the Galaxy S II. It's marketed for GoPhone's (not sure what that means), and smartphone data will be extra, though a lot of us have already been successfully using the non-smartphone postpaid data plan on AT&T.
A link to Engadget, which also includes the AT&T press release:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/21/atandt-to-offer-50-unlimited-prepaid-plan-ready-to-gophone-jun
There is no unlmited data
Its priced from $5 for 10mb to $25 for 500
dumb/feature phone web access is included with the $50 plan according to the release. SGS2 is a dumb phone in the eyes of AT&T village idiots.
arvin1 said:
There is no unlmited data
Its priced from $5 for 10mb to $25 for 500
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Perhaps there's a lack of clarity in the press release, but it seems as if unlimited data is also included (albeit not for smartphones, for which the $5 to $25 charge is applied).
However, it seems that "unlimited web" is included for "quick messaging phones."
Many of us have been successfully using cheaper non-smartphone unlimited data plans for our Galaxy S II's, since the IMEI is not registered in AT&T's system. Essentially, we've been able to access the dumbphone plans.
Just wondering if that might also be the case here with the new prepaid plan.
kreoXDA said:
dumb/feature phone web access is included with the $50 plan according to the release. SGS2 is a dumb phone in the eyes of AT&T village idiots.
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If this is a go for SGS2 users, would there be any possible negatives with switching over if we're not yet on contract with AT&T?
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If this is a go for SGS2 users, would there be any possible negatives with switching over if we're not yet on contract with AT&T?
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I would not know, this plan is not out yet I suggest you wait for first user reports.
IF this plan's feature phone unlimited web works the same way their normal 2- year commitment feature phone unlimited wen works, then the only downside I see is you won't be able to switch to "fake 4G" in the small number of cities that show differences in speed between "fake 4g" and "usually 3g but with access to 4g". There is a big thread about this in the QA section, just search for "APN WAP.CINGULAR"
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I would not know, this plan is not out yet I suggest you wait for first user reports.
IF this plan's feature phone unlimited web works the same way their normal 2- year commitment feature phone unlimited wen works, then the only downside I see is you won't be able to switch to "fake 4G" in the small number of cities that show differences in speed between "fake 4g" and "usually 3g but with access to 4g". There is a big thread about this in the QA section, just search for "APN WAP.CINGULAR"
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If I remember correctly, the only way to access the "fake 4g" (HSPA+ with full network backhaul) is to be on a smartphone plan and to have them register your phone as one of their "4g" phones? I'm on the unlimited non-smartphone plan already, so there probably wouldn't be a difference?
Anyway, I'll recheck that thread to see if I'm mistaken... or if there have been some new developments.
If anyone checks if this works, please post. I am interested.
kreoXDA said:
I would not know, this plan is not out yet I suggest you wait for first user reports.
IF this plan's feature phone unlimited web works the same way their normal 2- year commitment feature phone unlimited wen works, then the only downside I see is you won't be able to switch to "fake 4G" in the small number of cities that show differences in speed between "fake 4g" and "usually 3g but with access to 4g". There is a big thread about this in the QA section, just search for "APN WAP.CINGULAR"
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Can you post link I can't find the thread?
For those who are already on the att non smartphone unlimited data plan, are you getting hspa+ speeds and also able to do everything like browse, email, stream audio etc on your sg2? Thanks
Yes
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If I remember correctly, the only way to access the "fake 4g" (HSPA+ with full network backhaul) is to be on a smartphone plan and to have them register your phone as one of their "4g" phones? I'm on the unlimited non-smartphone plan already, so there probably wouldn't be a difference?
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According to some, the smartphone plan for "4G" phones would give you uncapped "fake 4G" speed. The feature-phone unlimited 3G does give you "fake 4G" speeds and HSPA+ access but the speed is supposedly capped. I believe it all depends on WHERE you use the phone. Where I am, I was getting same HSPA+ speeds on my old 3G smartphone plan and on the current feature phone plan: max 6 Mbps down, 2 up, on a very good day, on 99% of other days I get about 3 down and 0.5 up. Since I can clearly see that I can't really achieve the max speeds the "speed-capped" plan allows, it made no sense to me to switch to the "fake 4G" service for 4G-labeled phones.
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Can you post link I can't find the thread?
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I think it is this thread, based on my bad memory.
vince2398 said:
For those who are already on the att non smartphone unlimited data plan, are you getting hspa+ speeds and also able to do everything like browse, email, stream audio etc on your sg2? Thanks
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confirming, as I described above, I get the H+ icon on the phone and good speeds, here in New York City. I do suffer from hanging signal problems though (some people attribute it to "fast dormancy" setting, changing which does not help me personally)
I'm on the non-smartphone data plan and getting HSPA+ in my area.
In the several areas I've run speed tests (California Bay Area, Southern California, Denver), I've averaged about 3mbps up and 1mbps down. I've hit up to 5-6mbps down.
Of course, more speed is always a good thing, but these speeds are entirely satisfactory to me.
I'd definitely be interested in seeing if the prepaid plan offers the same data service.
Also, I'm assuming the $50 a month is an out the door flat rate that includes all taxes and fees?
Did you guys see the new Verizon tiered plans yet?
(image from Androidcentral.com)
They are capping the feature phone $10 web plan at 75 MB !!!
I am sure AT&T will follow pretty soon, the days of unlimited dumb phone web are counted, seriously.
kreoXDA said:
Did you guys see the new Verizon tiered plans yet?
(image from Androidcentral.com)
They are capping the feature phone $10 web plan at 75 MB !!!
I am sure AT&T will follow pretty soon, the days of unlimited dumb phone web are counted, seriously.
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I'm wondering if prepaid might be the way to go then, since the market seems more competitive and unlimited data is one of the key selling points.
Bump look at post 40 here
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...-Text-amp-Web-Plan-Now-Available-for-50/page3
Seems you can use a non-ATT phone on the prepaid plan. Anyone else confirm?
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Bump look at post 40 here
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...-Text-amp-Web-Plan-Now-Available-for-50/page3
Seems you can use a non-ATT phone on the prepaid plan. Anyone else confirm?
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If the prepaid plan phones uses sim cards you will be able to use any phone that accepts a sim card.
intruda119 said:
If the prepaid plan phones uses sim cards you will be able to use any phone that accepts a sim card.
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ATT might get tricky and only allow IMEIs of their own featurephones only or use locked SIMs.
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ATT might get tricky and only allow IMEIs of their own featurephones only or use locked SIMs.
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LOL Why would they do that now? You would probably activate your dumpphone on prepaid account and then just switch sim cards.
Did anyone end up getting the $50 featurephone plan? Did you swap a smartphone onto it? Most importantly, I would like to know what kind of data speeds are you getting on the prepaid featurephone plan?
I read reports that ATT caps prepaid featurephone data to 0.2 Mbps or lower (EDGE speeds). Can anyone post a speed test using this plan?
I'll be spending some time in the US and got the $50 AT&T unlimited GoPhone plan. Everything looks fine except my data speeds are too low. I get 500 kbps, while the signal says H+. (Btw I had to call them to put my IMEI in their database so that the data is enabled). In Serbia I'd get 4-5 Mbps with H+, sometimes higher. What's the deal?
I found the same thing with the Rogers/Fido network in Vancouver. Galaxy S II only gets 3 Mbps where as on the Bell network it had over 8 Mbps.
If you don't have an agreement with AT&T are there any other networks you can try that may offer better speeds in your area?
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The Goplan has a data speed cap, that's why it's so cheap.
I wouldn't call $50 a month cheap... but anyway, is there any way around it?
Deusdies said:
I wouldn't call $50 a month cheap... but anyway, is there any way around it?
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You'd have to switch to a post paid plan instead of prepaid.
Except there's a 2 year contract requirement and I'm only going to be here by the end of december.
If you read the fine print the $50 unlimited is only for non-smart phones. The sgii will not work, you will have to add a data plan to use the internet. I'm kind if in the same boat (I'm on a gophone plan), I can no longer send mms without enabling data. They ran a sweep and found out which phone I was using. The sgii is not supported on the network, or so I was told because it is a 4g phone. So I'm back to the inspire.
Hi everyone,
I just got the phone from the shipment yesterday and I just swap the sim card that I'm using and it work out of the blue. But today I got a msg from AT&T that I need the correct data plan in order for the 4G to work???
So here's the story, the plan I'm currently using is iPhone unlimited data plan back in 2009 then I get the Captivate, keeping the same data plan and internet still works normally. Now come the galaxy s ii with the so-called 4G speed I noticed I still get the same speed as the Captivate? The only different is on the Captivate it shows H but on the galaxy s ii it shows H+.
Is it supposed to say 4G or something on the indicator? or H+ is the 4G that AT&T is blowing up about?
Supposedly there's a new unlimited data plan you should be able to be put on. Look at the threads of people using iPhone 2gs to get unlimited.
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They need to migrate your from an iPhone data plan over to the one listed below. This is the unlimited version that I have myself:
SMT PERSONAL $30.00 (stands for Smartphone Personal)
GPRS WAP UNLTD
DOM - RHSDPPB 4 (Notice the 'HSDP' part of this coding which specifies the correct speed)
HSPA+ data has been out quite some time
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You do need a new plan, but they will grandfather you into an unlimited 4G plan. Or at least they're supposed to.
is this the right plan? only difference is that it doesn't have a 4 at the end.
Data
GPRS WAP UNLTD DOM - HSDPPB
footballrunner800 said:
is this the right plan? only difference is that it doesn't have a 4 at the end.
Data
GPRS WAP UNLTD DOM - HSDPPB
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Interesting. I can't say for certain but I do know there's only supposed to be 1 HSDPA Unlimited plan for Smartphones. If you go into your account online and go to Manage Features > View All Included Features - do you see SMT Personal $30? If you do, and you saw the code you listed on your actual current data usage screen, I'm pretty sure you're good. Obviously I'd call just to make sure...
Entropy512 said:
You do need a new plan, but they will grandfather you into an unlimited 4G plan. Or at least they're supposed to.
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This is what they did for me.
T-$hep said:
Hi everyone,
I just got the phone from the shipment yesterday and I just swap the sim card that I'm using and it work out of the blue. But today I got a msg from AT&T that I need the correct data plan in order for the 4G to work???
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You need a 4G sim card. The 3G sim isn't going work properly with your old data plan. That's what AT&T told me and did when I upgraded to this phone.
brianlp said:
You need a 4G sim card. The 3G sim isn't going work properly with your old data plan. That's what AT&T told me and did when I upgraded to this phone.
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This is completely false. I am still using my cingular 3g sim from 4 years ago. Same speed as with my "4g" sim
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Pirateghost said:
This is completely false. I am still using my cingular 3g sim from 4 years ago. Same speed as with my "4g" sim
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How did u switch between the two? I dont get it
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ngocdao said:
How did u switch between the two? I dont get it
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i have more than one SIM and its pretty easy for me to log into my account and change my SIM card out any time i need
Data
GPRS WAP UNLTD DOM - CMB1
GPRS WAP UNLTD DOM - HSDPPB2
i have this on my data usage
when i renewed my contract they gave me a new sim.
1 Data was deactivated on 10/02/2011 and is prorated.
2 Data was activated on 10/02/2011 and is prorated.
did a quick search and i got this
iPhone unlimited code is
GPRS WAP UNLTD DOM - CMB1
3G Smartphone unlimited code is
GPRS WAP UNLTD DOM - DPPB
4G smartphone unlimited code is
GPRS WAP UNLTD DOM - HSDPPB
T-$hep said:
Hi everyone,
I just got the phone from the shipment yesterday and I just swap the sim card that I'm using and it work out of the blue. But today I got a msg from AT&T that I need the correct data plan in order for the 4G to work???
So here's the story, the plan I'm currently using is iPhone unlimited data plan back in 2009 then I get the Captivate, keeping the same data plan and internet still works normally. Now come the galaxy s ii with the so-called 4G speed I noticed I still get the same speed as the Captivate? The only different is on the Captivate it shows H but on the galaxy s ii it shows H+.
Is it supposed to say 4G or something on the indicator? or H+ is the 4G that AT&T is blowing up about?
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To make it simple, call ATT or go into a store and have them update your IMEI so it will also update the correct plan for you.
There's no difference in price, just a different SOC code in the system. So yes, you keep your unlimited data!
If you go into a store, they *should* be able to change your sim free of charge. It doesn't really make anything better, but it doesn't hurt to keep everything updated.
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This is completely false. I am still using my cingular 3g sim from 4 years ago. Same speed as with my "4g" sim
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Store rep told me that when they turn on hspa+ if its not already, your old sim card won't get faux g.
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F_L_Abs said:
To make it simple, call ATT or go into a store and have them update your IMEI so it will also update the correct plan for you.
There's no difference in price, just a different SOC code in the system. So yes, you keep your unlimited data!
If you go into a store, they *should* be able to change your sim free of charge. It doesn't really make anything better, but it doesn't hurt to keep everything updated.
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i was just given a new simcard upon renewing
and had them change the data plan to 4g i suppose from my old iphone unlimted
this was at bestbuy lol
shadow65781 said:
Store rep told me that when they turn on hspa+ if its not already, your old sim card won't get faux g.
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Store rep told me that the phone ****s unicorn dust and leprechaun gold.
i have yet to see it.
hspa+ is already turned on here. there is no difference in SIM cards....
LTE may be a different story though
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Store rep told me that the phone ****s unicorn dust and leprechaun gold.
i have yet to see it.
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Idiot salesperson got it all wrong as usual. It is Unicorn blood and pirate gold. Morons.
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So this is what I found under view included feature in my line, just copy & paste here, can' find the code HSDPPB or HSDPPB2 like some of you did:
EXCESS TETHER $0.00
EXCESS TETHER
Upgrade Fee $0.00
Upgrade Fee
TETHWARN1 $0.00
TETHWARN1
Unlimited Night and Weekend Minutes $0.00
Unlimited Night and Weekend Minutes
GSM Coverage Area $0.00
GSM Coverage Area
AT&T Domestic Long Distance $0.00
AT&T Domestic Long Distance
Tracking feature UMTS $0.00
Tracking feature UMTS
700 Family Talk Rollover Minutes $0.00
700 Family Talk Rollover Minutes
Unlimited Expanded Mobile to Mobile $0.00
Unlimited Expanded Mobile to Mobile
Primary Line $0.00
Primary Line
AT&T Roaming Long Distance $0.00
AT&T Roaming Long Distance
AT&T Direct Bill $0.00
AT&T Direct Bill
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I called ATT today and they switched me to the new plan, it is called "Smartphone Personal". I did some speedtest but results turn out the same as before, still got the same speed as my Captivate thou... avg about 2 Mbps - 3 Mbps for download and 800 kbps - 1.2 Mbps for upload (This is in San Jose area, not sure about the speed in other areas)
So basically if you live in NorCal, you don't need to go through all the hassle to change the current data plan.
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This is completely false. I am still using my cingular 3g sim from 4 years ago. Same speed as with my "4g" sim
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Didn't cost me anything, plus we don't even have 4G in the St Louis market yet, so no big deal either way.
I'm grandfathered into smartphone unlimited data on AT&T and thinking about getting an i9100. Will I just be able to move my sim card from my current Android phone into the i9100, and everything will continue as normal?
Or, because the i9100 is not recognized by AT&T, do I need to call AT&T before I move my sim card to the new phone? In other words, will AT&T's system recognize the i9100 as a "dumbphone" and automatically switch me to the dumbphone data plan? Or by default will AT&T assuming I am still using a smartphone and leave my unlimited smartphone data plan in place?
I realize that I could use the dumbphone unlimited data plan and save some money, but I do not want to do that because in the future I might switch back to an AT&T branded device, and I do not want to lose my unlimited smartphone data plan if/when I do that.
Thanks.
Yes, you can just swap in your old SIM Card and your done. At&t's system cannot detect your SGS2 so all they see is your previous phone.
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Good news. Thanks.
I can attest to that, I swapped the SIM from my iPhone 3GS into my i9100 and I'm still on the unlimited data plan.
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Yes, you can just swap in your old SIM Card and your done. At&t's system cannot detect your SGS2 so all they see is your previous phone.
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Yup, verified here too. Inspire 4G to i9100.
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I was told by an AT&T rep that the iPhone communicates with Apple servers and you should call them up and have them switch you to a standard unlimited data package. I did that with my i9100, so far so good.
AT&T seems to be pretty good at allowing us to keep the unlimited data plans no matter what phone you use.
HSPA+ devices don't perform well unless using the "phone" APN, which requres a "4G" plan - AT&T has begun throttling the old wap.cingular APN.
HOWEVER: If you're on a smartphone unlimited plan, you can get grandfathered into an unlimited "4G" HSPA+ plan.
I STRONGLY suggest trying to do so in an AT&T corporate-owned store - avoid "mall kiosk" style places like the plague, and same for their telephone call centers.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Entropy512 said:
HSPA+ devices don't perform well unless using the "phone" APN, which requres a "4G" plan - AT&T has begun throttling the old wap.cingular APN.
HOWEVER: If you're on a smartphone unlimited plan, you can get grandfathered into an unlimited "4G" HSPA+ plan.
I STRONGLY suggest trying to do so in an AT&T corporate-owned store - avoid "mall kiosk" style places like the plague, and same for their telephone call centers.
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Thanks for all the replies. I'm actually coming over from another "4G" HSPA+ Android phone, so I am already on the "4G" plan. So I guess I should be good on AT&T's end... I'll just need to make sure the APN is correctly set up.
If you're already on the 4G unlimited plan (soc code HSDPPB) that should be sufficient to work with the Phone APN. If you're on the 3G plan (soc code DPPB), you may have problems connecting to the Phone APN, but should be OK with the wap.cingular APN.
If you need to upgrade to the 4G plan, you should be able to do it at a corporate-owned AT&T store, as Entropy512 suggests. That's what I did about 6 weeks ago, and had no problems.