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Hello All! First off, this is my first post on this forum, and I must say, that I am glad to be a part of a "community" that is passionate about mobile technology!
Question: I currently use an iPhone 3Gs on AT&T. I have the unlimited data and text message plan. If I decide to purchase an unlocked GS2, will my 3G sim card out of my iphone work in the GS2? Also, will I be able to keep my unlimited data and text plan?
Thanks in advance!
As far as I know, and from my experience. Yes.
I am also on that plan, and it works great for me in NYC. HSPA+ 95 percent of the time.
yes, because technically, youre not cancelling the original plan.
Thanks for the reply everyone! So just to clarify, my regular iPhone 3G sim will fit and work on the GS2? Will I only be able to receive 3G connectivity since I don't have a 4G sim or data plan?
Yes it will fit but not sure about the other question.
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Anyone know if I will only be able to receive 3G connectivity since I do not have a 4G sim card? Also, will I have to call in to AT&T customer service to have them activate the GS2?
jroc151 said:
Anyone know if I will only be able to receive 3G connectivity since I do not have a 4G sim card? Also, will I have to call in to AT&T customer service to have them activate the GS2?
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You will receive 4g speeds ( actually hsdpa + which att calls 4g)
U dont need to activate ur phone in att to get it to work with data or phone
To activate the 4g network for ur phone u will need an imei from atrix or other ATT 4g plan.
The imei of SGS 2 wont show up in ATT network as a 4g phone as they do not have that data base.
There is big thread here on how to thistopic - The pages 8-11 , I think are more fruitful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109983
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drgopoos said:
You will receive 4g speeds ( actually hsdpa + which att calls 4g)
U dont need to activate ur phone in att to get it to work with data or phone
To activate the 4g network for ur phone u will need an imei from atrix or other ATT 4g plan.
The imei of SGS 2 wont show up in ATT network as a 4g phone as they do not have that data base.
There is big thread here on how to thistopic - The pages 8-11 , I think are more fruitful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109983
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Thanks for the info drgopoo! How do I go about obtaining a valid 4G IMEI from such devices?
jroc151 said:
Thanks for the info drgopoo! How do I go about obtaining a valid 4G IMEI from such devices?
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i used my wife's atrix. Some people had luck by going to the att store and getting one from one of the reps
Even though I love the GS2, having to locate a "4G IMEI" to get the phone to work on AT&T sounds like too much work!
Hate to say it, but I think I may end up waiting for the AT&T variant (ATTAIN) to come out this year. Sucks there isn't a release date in sight as of yet!
jroc151 said:
Even though I love the GS2, having to locate a "4G IMEI" to get the phone to work on AT&T sounds like too much work!
Hate to say it, but I think I may end up waiting for the AT&T variant (ATTAIN) to come out this year. Sucks there isn't a release date in sight as of yet!
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The phone WILL WORK on AT&T no matter what. You will get H+ service no matter what. However if you are switching SIM from a 3G phone, most likely your H+ speed will be capped at like 6 Mbps. To unlock at&t backhaul that is not capped, you OPTIONALLY may want to call in an ask them to change your existing plan to the plan they have for AT&T certified 4G devices like the Infuse. In order to do that, AT&T needs a random IMEI number from such a device. You can give them ANY number. Just stop buy AT&T store, take a look at a display Infuse, go to menus to see the IMEI and take a picture of that screen, then give that number to AT&T rep.
This is just how their plan changing software works, it needs a capable IMEI to put you on the "4G" network.
Just to reiterate , by default imported SGS2 will work on 3g and 4g on AT&T, 4G "may-be" capped though at 6 or so Mbps. I personally do not give two ****s about this capping because only on a rare day I can get more than 3 Mbps in my market (New York) where AT&T sucks tremendously. So I did not bother to call in and upgrade.
Note though, that you do NOT want to call in and upgrade if you are on a dumbphone plan.
Why would you not go back to Media Net plan? It costs 10 bucks with messaging plan, its unlimited and you get H+ speed.
drgopoos said:
You will receive 4g speeds ( actually hsdpa + which att calls 4g)
U dont need to activate ur phone in att to get it to work with data or phone
To activate the 4g network for ur phone u will need an imei from atrix or other ATT 4g plan.
The imei of SGS 2 wont show up in ATT network as a 4g phone as they do not have that data base.
There is big thread here on how to thistopic - The pages 8-11 , I think are more fruitful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109983
Hope this helps
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Thanks for the info.
I am currently using my Unlimited Data plan of my iPhone 4 on my SGS2.
I bought this simtray that can hold the micro sim so it fits in the SGS2.
The speeds I get are on the so called 4G network H+ but I am not that impressed for now.
Right now the Upload speed I get is 2.2Mbps Down / 0.79Mbps Up and 138ms Ping. I believe this could be better.
I guess I will try to get the IMEI changed with an Atrix as mentioned.
*Update*
So I just talked with ATT over chat when I logged on to their website.
I lied to them and told them I had an ATT ATRIX 4G and needed the right speed.
They asked me for the IMEI, so I searched for an ATT ATRIX 4G IMEI on Google , they changed it on my account and now I have unlimited HSPA dataplan.
I did some tests with the APN both give more or less the same results but the area I am currently at is not that great for H+ but I did see improvement in the upload speed.
Right now I have 2.39Mbps Down / 1.03Mbps Up and 142ms ping.
Will try it out tonight when I am more close to H+ areas but my iPhone SIM just works fine in my SGS2
kreoXDA said:
This is just how their plan changing software works, it needs a capable IMEI to put you on the "4G" network.
Just to reiterate , by default imported SGS2 will work on 3g and 4g on AT&T, 4G "may-be" capped though at 6 or so Mbps. I personally do not give two ****s about this capping because only on a rare day I can get more than 3 Mbps in my market (New York) where AT&T sucks tremendously. So I did not bother to call in and upgrade.
Note though, that you do NOT want to call in and upgrade if you are on a dumbphone plan.
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I currently have the unlimited data plan on my iPhone 3Gs. I do not want to lose it downgrading myself to the cappeed bandwidth plan. Will the standard AT&T 3G sim card (non-micro sim chip) work in the GS2? Does the imported GS2 come with a sim tray?
Flupken said:
Thanks for the info.
I am currently using my Unlimited Data plan of my iPhone 4 on my SGS2.
I bought this simtray that can hold the micro sim so it fits in the SGS2.
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The GS2 doesn't not come with a sim card tray???
jroc151 said:
I currently have the unlimited data plan on my iPhone 3Gs. I do not want to lose it downgrading myself to the cappeed bandwidth plan. Will the standard AT&T 3G sim card (non-micro sim chip) work in the GS2? Does the imported GS2 come with a sim tray?
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jroc151 said:
The GS2 doesn't not come with a sim card tray???
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No SIM tray in the package, SGS2 was not build for Apple converts.
Your unlimited 3G will be grandfathered if you put that SIM (with your own adapter) into the SGS2.
Further, I believe (but am NOT sure) you can call in and ask them to "mark" your grandfathered unlimited plan as 4G by telling them your new device is an Infuse or Atrix and giving them the IMEI, per the numerous posts here. I repeat, I did NOT do it myself, so I can't 100% assure you can do it and will not lose anything.
I just upgraded my Unlimited 3g plan to 4g and at&t accidentally put me on the 2gb limited plan and removed my txt messaging. Don't know how the rep made this mistake.
Wasnt a big deal to resolve and get back the unlimited plan. Just make sure you clarify multiple times.
Btw, my 4g and 3g speeds suck in salt lake city. Can't get higher than 2mb download.
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jbooker12 said:
I just upgraded my Unlimited 3g plan to 4g and at&t accidentally put me on the 2gb limited plan and removed my txt messaging. Don't know how the rep made this mistake.
Wasnt a big deal to resolve and get back the unlimited plan. Just make sure you clarify multiple times.
Btw, my 4g and 3g speeds suck in salt lake city. Can't get higher than 2mb download.
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My understanding is that once you switch from 3G to 4G, AT&T will remove the unlimited data and ask to put you on one of their new data plans. THis is how they are getting people to let go of the unlimited data. Is this true?
Someone had mentioned to me you can pick up this phone, unlock it, and then put it on AT&T with a $10 unlimited data feature phone plan. Has anyone tried this/have any experience with this? If so, could you tell me your experiences with it?
It is my understanding AT&T does sweeps to determine if a phone is a smartphone or not, and automatically upgrades your phone to a data plan if it is a smartphone, but the vibrant can bypass this since it is not AT&T branded. If anyone who has done this could tell me about their experiences, or point me to another thread where this has been done, it would be greatly appreciated!
You might be able to do that, but because of the spectrum differences between T-Mobile and AT&T it will leave you stuck on edge at best for data.
Damn you Swype!
I am using this phone on AT&T with the $10 a month data plan, I also get 3g.
The Vibrant does support the 1900mhz Spectrum, which is awesome, cause T-Mobile is starting to open up 1900mhz in the Northwest getting ready to launch there HSPA+ 84Mbit network. So I could see someone hacking the radio in a Pentaband phone and getting mad speeds on t-mobile... maybe?
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I am using this phone on AT&T with the $10 a month data plan, I also get 3g.
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What did you have to do to make this work? 2 year contract for a feature phone?
The original contract was for a pantech link
I'm on att using the $10 plan as well. 3g works but since vibrant only has one of att's 2 3g bands, the data can be spotty at times and i go into edge occasionally.
One of the reasons i want a new phone, but it's not too bad here in nyc.
You don't need a new contract just choose the feature online. It's only $10 if you have unlimited messaging though. Otherwise it's $15
I have the vibrant with ATT but cannot connect to the 3g network at all. I am running WEUI rom and i get a signal, but it either shows an "E" or an "H" by the signal when data is enabled...
Any ideas how to get it on 3g?
Thanks
H is 3g+, so you're fine.
Swyped, not typed, from my Digital Brick
Droidificator said:
H is 3g+, so you're fine.
Swyped, not typed, from my Digital Brick
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Thanks. Thats interesting... So H is faster than 3g which is faster than E, is that how it works?
I asked this in the Note section as they have a different issue as ATT CAN see their devices as "smartphones" Many have spoken of GoPhone as an option for UL data and messaging.
We are off contract with two i9100s on $15 MediaNet sharing 700 minutes with NO messaging plan. We are paying $100 a month.
Seems to me we can transfer to a GoPhone plan for $50 with unlimited everything using any device (except maybe the iPhone) Why not use that advantage especially since LTE is not widely available and some may not really need the extra speeds.
What am I missing? We already get 3G+ (H) data speeds using the wap.cingular apn provisioned for MediaNet using our actual i9100 IMEIs
Does gophone sim work on your sgs2? A month ago i tried putting gosim to my sgs2 unkocked but didn't work. Dunno why.
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The gophone plan suffers from a download speed cap, compared to just being on the medianet plan.
Disfected said:
The gophone plan suffers from a download speed cap, compared to just being on the medianet plan.
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Really? Didn't know that because they are selling the Captivate on the GoPhone plan.
Stevekang 877 said:
Does gophone sim work on your sgs2? A month ago i tried putting gosim to my sgs2 unkocked but didn't work. Dunno why.
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No I am not on that plan I am doing some research into possibly switching to it though. I am reading conflicting information on download speeds. Guess I should just call ATT.
EDIT called ATT. Claimed Speeds were the same as what we were getting now on MediaNet But Data would cost the same for a smart phone as a regular plan. So technically one could do the same as we are doing ow on the regular plan. give them the IMEI of the phone we are using and it will show up as a Dumbphone and get $50 Unlimited everything using the MediaNet APN
ATT has our SGS i9100 IMEIs If they did a sweep they would see them anyway. So I gave them the real ones. I have been on mine since last July. I may switch over to Gophone. Probably only need to call them and say switch us. The Additional benefit would be messaging which we do not currently have and unlimited calling.
We are paying $100 now without messaging and 700 minutes.
Is anyone working on tweaking the AT&T Notes radio? I don't mean for TMobile, I mean so that HSPA+ as well as LTE are faster? The reason I ask, is I had/have an HTC HD2 that gets way better data transfer rates on 3g, than this phone does on HSPA+ in the same area. I have been able to hit 3-4Mbits down on this phone, and was getting 5-to almost 8 MBits on the HD2. (There have been a dozen plus radios on the HD2) The data speed on this Note is disappointing.
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Is anyone working on tweaking the AT&T Notes radio? I don't mean for TMobile, I mean so that HSPA+ as well as LTE are faster? The reason I ask, is I had/have an HTC HD2 that gets way better data transfer rates on 3g, than this phone does on HSPA+ in the same area. I have been able to hit 3-4Mbits down on this phone, and was getting 5-to almost 8 MBits on the HD2. (There have been a dozen plus radios on the HD2) The data speed on this Note is disappointing.
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I easily get 10MB down on my this phone on HSPA+, which is the same as my last phone. I'd say there is something wrong with your phone.
HSPA+
Are you running a stock rom? Mines rooted, but otherwise stock. Also, are you on AT&T?
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I easily get 10MB down on my this phone on HSPA+, which is the same as my last phone. I'd say there is something wrong with your phone.
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Are you running a stock rom? Mines rooted, but otherwise stock. Also, are you on AT&T?
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I've tested running completely stock, stock + rooted, and on The Collective Unofficial ROM.
Yes I am on AT&T.
C0BRA01 said:
Is anyone working on tweaking the AT&T Notes radio? I don't mean for TMobile, I mean so that HSPA+ as well as LTE are faster? The reason I ask, is I had/have an HTC HD2 that gets way better data transfer rates on 3g, than this phone does on HSPA+ in the same area. I have been able to hit 3-4Mbits down on this phone, and was getting 5-to almost 8 MBits on the HD2. (There have been a dozen plus radios on the HD2) The data speed on this Note is disappointing.
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I'm running into the same issues. I am thinking that since I am a long time AT&T unlimited user, I only have two options available:
Note: I already unlocked, then rooted the stock with Odin, did a back-up with
Titanium, did a nandroid back from the phone, and loaded the clockwork recovery into my phone so that I can load ROMS easier.
Options:
1. Subscribe to AT&Ts NEW service options and I will be subscribed to their
new HSPA+/LTE club (give up unlimited) without any problems.
OR
2. Don't subscribe to any of their new plans, and stay stuck with the Edge and
3G, and Unlimited data services, all while the phone falsely shows 4G at the top of the screen.
My fastest down speed has been around 6.5 MB - depending on where I am while 4G was being displayed on the phone.
It seems to me that the HSPA+/LTE requires a special subscription.
Network Mode does not appear on my phone, so I can't ensure that it
it has a 4G service selected. I was looking for a fix that would turn my Network Mode back on.
I can see a defaulted APN titled AT&T PTA, but it is locked from edits.
If I set my phone to that defaulted AT&T PTA everything works but data. SpeedTest immediately displays, "Try Again".
In my Elixir application, if I choose "Turn WiMax(4G) ON,
I get the following in Elixir:
=====Data======
State: DcInactiveState
disconnected with last try at 4:38 PM
fail because
SERVICE_OPTION_NOT_SUBSCRIBED
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So, I think that either we need to figure out how to turn Network Mode back on,
for the AT&T Notes, or give up unlimited and go with their new plan.
Some kind of way it seems like a subscription may be tied into allowing HSPA/LTE speeds.
You don't have to give up your grandfathered unlimited plan for HSPA or LTE. They just upgrade you to the 4G version of the unlimited plan.
You may have to do it in an actual AT&T store (not a dealer) or over the phone with customer care.
Also these phones don't have wimax...
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You don't have to give up your grandfathered unlimited plan for HSPA or LTE. They just upgrade you to the 4G version of the unlimited plan.
You may have to do it in an actual AT&T store (not a dealer) or over the phone with customer care.
Also these phones don't have wimax...
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I've been on the phone with a couple of reps., been into an AT&T shop a few times, and they all keep telling me that I have to upgrade to their new plan which does not have unlimited. The best they could offer me was a 5 GB plan. Also, they said I have never been on a smartphone plan with them. Although, I was previously using an HTC HD2 (sounds like a smartphone too me), but it was not a smartphone registered in their system. Records show that I'm a razor user.
They have no record of the unlocked phones that have been using like the HTC HD2. So now, when I take that SIM out of the HTC HD2 and slide it into the Note, I'm not getting 4G.
And finally, they said that if I was previously on one of their Smartphone plans I would be able to transfer to the LTE service.
When I zoom out and look at the big picture, I don't think most people have a need for the extra speed anyway.
Any thoughts... I think I am stuck with the Edge.
4g vs 3g
Don't bother upgrading. I had unlimited, and am now on their 5gb a month plan with tethering. and I am not getting any faster speeds. I seriously doubt it's the plan, and I am getting billed for 4g.
Tecneek said:
I've been on the phone with a couple of reps., been into an AT&T shop a few times, and they all keep telling me that I have to upgrade to their new plan which does not have unlimited. The best they could offer me was a 5 GB plan. Also, they said I have never been on a smartphone plan with them. Although, I was previously using an HTC HD2 (sounds like a smartphone too me), but it was not a smartphone registered in their system. Records show that I'm a razor user.
They have no record of the unlocked phones that have been using like the HTC HD2. So now, when I take that SIM out of the HTC HD2 and slide it into the Note, I'm not getting 4G.
And finally, they said that if I was previously on one of their Smartphone plans I would be able to transfer to the LTE service.
When I zoom out and look at the big picture, I don't think most people have a need for the extra speed anyway.
Any thoughts... I think I am stuck with the Edge.
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Tecneek said:
I've been on the phone with a couple of reps., been into an AT&T shop a few times, and they all keep telling me that I have to upgrade to their new plan which does not have unlimited. The best they could offer me was a 5 GB plan. Also, they said I have never been on a smartphone plan with them. Although, I was previously using an HTC HD2 (sounds like a smartphone too me), but it was not a smartphone registered in their system. Records show that I'm a razor user.
They have no record of the unlocked phones that have been using like the HTC HD2. So now, when I take that SIM out of the HTC HD2 and slide it into the Note, I'm not getting 4G.
And finally, they said that if I was previously on one of their Smartphone plans I would be able to transfer to the LTE service.
When I zoom out and look at the big picture, I don't think most people have a need for the extra speed anyway.
Any thoughts... I think I am stuck with the Edge.
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I think maybe I misread your earlier post. Do you mean that you have an AT&T Unlimited plan (calling minutes, etc) or AT&T unlimited data plan?
If you have a grandfathered unlimited data plan, they should upgrade you to the unlimited 4G data plan with the new SIM card.
If you have the Unlimited calling plan, then you might have to suck it up and get one of the capped data plans if you really want LTE.
Either way, to get the faster data speeds you would need a new SIM card. The older SIMs (even from last year in some cases) can't handle the faster LTE speeds and can cripple the data speeds on the phone to the point you are describing.
I have the unlimited data and calling plan. Reps. just told me straight out that I will lose the unlimited data. But after reading Cobra's post, I have no clue as to what the real trigger is for making HSPA+/LTE work on my phone.
Well, I'm getting ready to strip everything to see how ICS looks, and then go from there..
I guess Cobra there is still no answer. You switched and it is still slow, I did not switch and it is still slow. Does the LTE service really exist
p.s. I can't wait until I don't have to challenge the image verification. I cannot understand those &^&%^ letters
Tecneek said:
I have the unlimited data and calling plan. Reps. just told me straight out that I will lose the unlimited data. But after reading Cobra's post, I have no clue as to what the real trigger is for making HSPA+/LTE work on my phone.
Well, I'm getting ready to strip everything to see how ICS looks, and then go from there..
I guess Cobra there is still no answer. You switched and it is still slow, I did not switch and it is still slow. Does the LTE service really exist
p.s. I can't wait until I don't have to challenge the image verification. I cannot understand those &^&%^ letters
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The reps are BSing you. I have a grandfathered unlimited plan & switched to a LTE unlimited plan by asking the rep to do it for me when I activated my I717. I came from a N7000 to an I717. Are you in a LTE area? I went from 3-6MB DL to 20-35ish MB DL, depending where I'm at.
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The reps are BSing you. I have a grandfathered unlimited plan & switched to a LTE unlimited plan by asking the rep to do it for me when I activated my I717. I came from a N7000 to an I717. Are you in a LTE area? I went from 3-6MB DL to 20-35ish MB DL, depending where I'm at.
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Good grief.. I'll try again at a new location. I'll simply tell them that I want to change my current unlimited plan to the LTE unlimited plan. I am in the Wash, D.C. metro area. They act like an LTE unlimited plan doesn't exist.
Cobra are you in an LTE area? I wonder why your speeds aren't up there if you are in fact on the LTE plan.
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Good grief.. I'll try again at a new location. I'll simply tell them that I want to change my current unlimited plan to the LTE unlimited plan. I am in the Wash, D.C. metro area. They act like an LTE unlimited plan doesn't exist.
Cobra are you in an LTE area? I wonder why your speeds aren't up there if you are in fact on the LTE plan.
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Oh, they looked at the SIM too and said it was a current SIM.
If you can send me the description of the svc as on the invoice I would appreciate..
XDA is no longer worth my time.
TimOster said:
I just picked mine up yesterday. Upgraded from a Nexus One. I still have the old SIM, it's disabled. I purchased the phone at the ATT store. Comes with a NEW SIM or you won't get LTE speeds.
1. Other than the upgrade fee, my monthly bill is the same. I still have my unlimited data plan, only since I'm LTE now I don't get throttled until I hit 5G.
2. I get 25M DL, 8.5 UL at my house. I live in San Diego. (depending on where I am. I tried here at work and got **** for DL, right next to thousands of iPhone users)
If someone is telling you different, they are lying.
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You guys got me feeling slighted over here Ok, I'm defintely going to follow-up again. I was wondering if your Nexus smartphone was a recognized AT&T phone. The pivotal point for grandfathering unlimited to LTE may be that they will do it only for THEIR phones that were previously recognized as smartphones. When they look up my records it comes back showing that I'm officially using one of their previous motorola razor phones, which at the time was not on a their smartphone plan, even though I was able to use the SIM in an unlocked non-AT&T HTC-HD2 without any problems.
So, maybe if you come from a recognized AT&T smartphone they will upgrade you, but if your last phone registered with them was not considered a smartphone while on an unlimited data plan, then they will not grandfather you in..
I gues it's worth another try.
p.s. thanks for helping me respond and overcome that *&^ image verification challenge
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You guys got me feeling slighted over here Ok, I'm defintely going to follow-up again. I was wondering if your Nexus smartphone was a recognized AT&T phone. The pivotal point for grandfathering unlimited to LTE may be that they will do it only for THEIR phones that were previously recognized as smartphones. When they look up my records it comes back showing that I'm officially using one of their previous motorola razor phones, which at the time was not on a their smartphone plan, even though I was able to use the SIM in an unlocked non-AT&T HTC-HD2 without any problems.
So, maybe if you come from a recognized AT&T smartphone they will upgrade you, but if your last phone registered with them was not considered a smartphone while on an unlimited data plan, then they will not grandfather you in..
I gues it's worth another try.
p.s. thanks for helping me respond and overcome that *&^ image verification challenge
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No. It has to be an "unlimited smartphone data plan". If you have that no matter what phone you are using, you can keep it. Usually you can tell by how much you are paying for the data plan. There was a "unlimited" plan for other non smartphones for like $20 for phones like the Razor etc but the smartphone plan for what were known previously as PDAs was like $39.
So which one do you have? I am pretty sure if you only have the unlimited non-smartphone plan you cannot convert that to a smartphone unlimited plan...
LTE
Yes, and I think there is a list of cities somewhere. Seattle area, as high tech as it is, does NOT have it yet, while smaller cities, and lower tech areas do? Doesn't make sense to me. So for now I am stuck with HSPA+
On my HD2, I had regular 3g speeds, then I did a radio change, and used the Rafpigna Froyo ROM, and suddenly I started getting speeds like my sig pic shows. My data is slower with this ROM, but from what I have been reading around the net, my speeds are pretty typical for a lot of the Notes on HSPA+
Forgot to mention that I installed the leaked ICS ROM, and it is very much worth doing. Data speed went up a little as well. Still not as much as my HD2 was though.
Tecneek said:
I have the unlimited data and calling plan. Reps. just told me straight out that I will lose the unlimited data. But after reading Cobra's post, I have no clue as to what the real trigger is for making HSPA+/LTE work on my phone.
Well, I'm getting ready to strip everything to see how ICS looks, and then go from there..
I guess Cobra there is still no answer. You switched and it is still slow, I did not switch and it is still slow. Does the LTE service really exist
p.s. I can't wait until I don't have to challenge the image verification. I cannot understand those &^&%^ letters
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The speed of the network will always vary greatly. They are completely based on your proximity to the tower and the current load from other users on the tower. Unless you can find a tower with no other users on it and you can repeat the test from the exact same spot, there is no way to compare speeds between phones, or even the same phone at different locations.
If you find some threads where people are reporting their speeds, you will see that they vary by massive amounts.
I can say that I am still onthe unlimited data plan and on stock ROM I was getting 10Mbps. It must be your area because my last phone was hitting max capability on HSPA @ 7.2 Mbps.
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Edit, just to clarify I went from a 3G only phone and finally got a 4G phone and I really don't thing they are trying to throttle your speeds just because you are on 4G with an unlimited data plan.
I was an AT&T rep from a long time ago (before cingular) and one thing that has held true is that all reps are told by corporate to push people into new plans no matter what. I was told as a rep by another rep that even something as swapping phones required new 2 year contracts which was and still is bull.
AT&T arbitrarily swapped my plan when I went from my G1 to a streak because they said I never was on a smartphone plan. I explained to them that I was on a blackjack and went to a G1 (paying $30 a month) and then I went to the streak. They told me tough luck and they were keeping me on the tiered data plan. I calmly asked for their manager, when I was transferred I exploded on the manager telling them that I call every time when I swap phones to make sure everything is good (not needing to upgrade my plan or anything) and that it was their screwup and if they're treating me like this I was going to leave. I promptly got an apology and asked for my current IEMI number and we were done. I threw in words and phrases like improper business practices, bait and switch and other such things. Managers have more "Say" on what they can do, you tend to get things taken care of because they just don't want to deal with you.
that's been my experience with AT&T, they're far from perfect, but if you start yelling and being upset, you're more likely to get what you want. Sad but true.
LTE
Nope, no LTE in Seattle yet. Only HSPA+ Seattle is very high tech, and yet, no LTE here. One of AT&T's major data centers is here as well. Hard to tell why they are slow rolling it out here.
I don't get to see the invoices. My wife works for AT&T, and gets those. She did tell me I am being billed for 4g though.
Tecneek said:
Good grief.. I'll try again at a new location. I'll simply tell them that I want to change my current unlimited plan to the LTE unlimited plan. I am in the Wash, D.C. metro area. They act like an LTE unlimited plan doesn't exist.
Cobra are you in an LTE area? I wonder why your speeds aren't up there if you are in fact on the LTE plan.
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Oh, they looked at the SIM too and said it was a current SIM.
If you can send me the description of the svc as on the invoice I would appreciate..
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Hey guys. I have a HTC Titan II and started using it yesterday. I placed the sim card I had from my previous phone (xperia play r800a), and noticed that it shows I have a 4G connection. However, as soon as I open up the browser nothing happens. Says there is something wrong with my data connection. I took the card out and placed it back in my xperia play. Internet seemed fine.
Then I read that it may have to do with my sim not being a 4G LTE sim; so I went to the ATT store this morning and got a new sim. I asked if it was a 4G LTE sim, and the girl informed me that all newer sims are 4G LTE sims. I took the new sim and placed it in the T2. Still nothing.
So I am unsure as to what the issue is. I have a cheap unlimited ATT data plan that has been working like a champ for the last couple of years. I figured that at the very least, I would get 3G speeds on the T2 since I am not on a 4G plan.
Any advice? Thanks!!
You have to have your data plan updated to the LTE plan (you get to keep what ever data cap you have today, unlimited or else). You can do it by calling customer service or in AT&T stores. Otherwise, it will not work. The LTE connection uses pta APN which requires LTE data plan on your account.
foxbat121 said:
You have to have your data plan updated to the LTE plan (you get to keep what ever data cap you have today, unlimited or else). You can do it by calling customer service or in AT&T stores. Otherwise, it will not work. The LTE connection uses pta APN which requires LTE data plan on your account.
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Thanks for the info. I am currently paying $30 for unlimited data (non-smartphone) with texting. I am assuming when switching over to LTE that I'll be responsible for paying some sort of premium because I'm guessing they don't have non-smartphone LTE plans.
I managed to get data to work by editing the APN info on the phone. It works, but I do not think it's running at LTE speeds or even 4G (even though it says 4G at the top of my phone).
krillin said:
Thanks for the info. I am currently paying $30 for unlimited data (non-smartphone) with texting. I am assuming when switching over to LTE that I'll be responsible for paying some sort of premium because I'm guessing they don't have non-smartphone LTE plans.
I managed to get data to work by editing the APN info on the phone. It works, but I do not think it's running at LTE speeds or even 4G (even though it says 4G at the top of my phone).
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What APN did you enter? Just do following to get 4G speeds:
1) Add APN
2) wap.cingular
3) Reboot or wait 3-4 mins
I just switch to LTE APN. It is fast, but from what I'm reading online, I've set myself up for tighter AT&T controls around tethering, throttling etc. But, I can confirm that it is backwards compatible.
sumeet909 said:
What APN did you enter? Just do following to get 4G speeds:
1) Add APN
2) wap.cingular
3) Reboot or wait 3-4 mins
I just switch to LTE APN. It is fast, but from what I'm reading online, I've set myself up for tighter AT&T controls around tethering, throttling etc. But, I can confirm that it is backwards compatible.
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I went to the connection settings, pressed on "ADD APN". For the name, I entered, "AT&T HSPA+". That's it, and internet works. It says 4G at the very top of my phone, but not LTE. I assumed this was normal. Would entering wap.cingular be faster?
Thanks!
I think AT&T HSPA+ is supposed to be quicker than wap.cingular
I read it some place a few minutes ago but I lost the page. Someone ran a test and speedtest.net had higher speeds and lower pings.
You will need the pta APN to get LTE connection. You will need Phone APN to get real HSPA+ speed (if you want anything over 6mbps). Otherwise, wap.cingular gives you 3G speed (which all new AT&T phones will show it as 4G, lame).
Both pta and Phone APN requires specific data plan codes on your account (If you have LTE data plan, you can use both pta and Phone APNs but HSPA+/4G data plan can only use Phone APN).
AT&T did so exactly to prevent customers like you who have an old non-smartphone data plan to take advantage of its new high speed data network without paying for it.
In most places, HSPA+ speed is not much quicker than 3G/wap.Cingular beause AT&T's HSPA+ network is over congested. However, LTE is on a separate network and the data speeds are significantly faster than HSPA+.
foxbat121 said:
AT&T did so exactly to prevent customers like you...who take advantage of its new high speed data network without paying for it.
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Geez...tell me how you truly feel.
JK! Thanks for clearing that up.
LoL, nice editing. NBC should hire you
Now you have to decide whether to save $$ but use slower 3G data or pay up to trade for higher speed. You won't get to keep the unlimited because your current plan is not qualified smartphone plan. So, basically you are looking at $30 for 3GB + $20 for unlimited text.
Need a SIM card
I had the same problem as I got my phone free from a MS store (traded them my old windows mobile device for it). I ended up having to take the phone to an AT&T store and they stated that my SIM card would never work with the phone for data. It was a 3G SIM card. They also changed the data plan so maybe both are required.
shawnl01 said:
I had the same problem as I got my phone free from a MS store (traded them my old windows mobile device for it). I ended up having to take the phone to an AT&T store and they stated that my SIM card would never work with the phone for data. It was a 3G SIM card. They also changed the data plan so maybe both are required.
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Both are required. But if your existing SIM is new enough it should support LTE without problem (there was a specific SIM card ID range to support LTE).
BTW, if your phone is connecting on LTE, it will show LTE instead of 4G on the notification bar.
shawnl01 said:
I had the same problem as I got my phone free from a MS store (traded them my old windows mobile device for it). I ended up having to take the phone to an AT&T store and they stated that my SIM card would never work with the phone for data. It was a 3G SIM card. They also changed the data plan so maybe both are required.
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for whatever reason, I read somewhere around here that that particular SIM made your "smartphone exclusion" hold-up against most recent phones. So, you gave that benefit away - don't worry if you don't know much about it.
wap.cingular gave me data thanks! But I am a little confused is it 3g or HSPA+? I don't need to change my data plan for LTE (since it isn't in Seattle yet) but I want to change it if I am not getting HSPA+
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wap.cingular gave me data thanks! But I am a little confused is it 3g or HSPA+? I don't need to change my data plan for LTE (since it isn't in Seattle yet) but I want to change it if I am not getting HSPA+
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HSPA+ in WP7 gets represented with an "H" or "4G"
3G gets represent with a regular "3G"
LTE with "LTE"
Most likely you are under HSPA+ ... Do a Speed Test with an app like "Bandwidth" to see where you max out and that should give you an idea if its 3G or H
Tachi91 said:
HSPA+ in WP7 gets represented with an "H" or "4G"
3G gets represent with a regular "3G"
LTE with "LTE"
Most likely you are under HSPA+ ... Do a Speed Test with an app like "Bandwidth" to see where you max out and that should give you an idea if its 3G or H
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it says 4g and I get about 3mbs I am assuming its HSPA+ thanks for clarifying!
All AT&T new phones, including iPhone with iOS5 update, will say 4G even if it is on 3G. It really doesn't matter much. 3G and HSPA+ in most places are same speed. You only need to worry about it if you want LTE. If you don't have LTE, leave it alone.
I have put both APNs mentioned and that seems to work for a little while, but eventually the data cuts out again.
Is this an issue similar to what is happening with the Lumina 900? Is this a Microsoft problem or AT&T? And is anyone else still having issues after updating the apn like I am?
try APNhone
Name:whatever
it works for me.
hrzlvn said:
try APNhone
Name:whatever
it works for me.
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does nothing for mine. i've tried it already.
Your data plan limits you to wap.cingular APN only. Nothing else will work for you.
foxbat121 said:
Your data plan limits you to wap.cingular APN only. Nothing else will work for you.
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Since my MMS and tethering no longer work with this phone, it looks as if I may have to switch out my plan(s) and fork over $70 ($50 data+$20 text). IMHO, a bit of a rip off...OR I can just go back to my xplay and everything will work as it was...but where is the fun in that?