If you enable WiFi the 3g/H/H+, and so forth, icon disappear, but if you got to settings-wireless and network-mobile network settings ->Use packet data is still enabled. So am wondering does the network data go to sleep while WiFi is on? So i won't gain any battery by disabling data while WiFi is on? Or would i gain some battery by doing this?
Nitrius said:
If you enable WiFi the 3g/H/H+, and so forth, icon disappear, but if you got to settings-wireless and network-mobile network settings ->Use packet data is still enabled. So am wondering does the network data go to sleep while WiFi is on? So i won't gain any battery by disabling data while WiFi is on? Or would i gain some battery by doing this?
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Data is still on even when the icon isn't displayed. You will save battery disabling it manually because it will disable the data radio.
donalgodon said:
Data is still on even when the icon isn't displayed. You will save battery disabling it manually becaise it will disable the data radio.
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What he said:
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Okay, thanks for the fast reply =) Another question, with data disabled and wifi on, is there any feature that will be disabled because data is disabled? Like won't i be able to receive MMS for example?
Nitrius said:
Okay, thanks for the fast reply =) Another question, with data disabled and wifi on, is there any feature that will be disabled because data is disabled? Like won't i be able to receive MMS for example?
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NO SMS is phone not data .
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is there a way I can put a data toggle in the notification bar?
i tried APNdroid, but it isn't working on disabling data connection.
What solutions do you guy use?
Thanks
I have not yet seen anything that works for data toggling on the top notification bar.
My best solution would be to use something like 'extended controls' where u can customize a power widget so u can toggle data, wifi, tether etc. - even works with cameraflash for flashlight.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.extendedcontrols
I use this as a switch for everything.
I use to also use quicksettings, its a great toggle too.
Yeah, I use quick settings. One of the things I miss about miui.
To toggle data usage, you could just use your power button. Keep hold of the power button and wait for pop up menu, you can then activate or de-activate from there. It can be done from anywhere in the phone.
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Is this data connection part of your network providers internet usage they give you or something else?
Rooster19 said:
Is this data connection part of your network providers internet usage they give you or something else?
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This is the 3G data that you get through your mobile phone connection.
Note that if you turn off the network data connection, you might not be able to receive MMS. You can still receive SMS though.
Hi guys,
Do you know if AT&T automatically prefers WiFi over 4G? If not, is there a way to set it so that I can save on my 2GB limit imposed by ATT? thanks
Bascotie said:
Hi guys,
Do you know if AT&T automatically prefers WiFi over 4G? If not, is there a way to set it so that I can save on my 2GB limit imposed by ATT? thanks
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Set WiFi sleep policy to "never" - then the only things that will use cell data when you are connected to an access point are market checkins (but not market downloads) and MMS. Maybe not even MMS.
Note that the phone won't automatically connect to open APs that you haven't connected to before.
If you have wifi sleep policy set to "when screen is off", background data will be over the cell connection.
Entropy512 said:
Set WiFi sleep policy to "never" - then the only things that will use cell data when you are connected to an access point are market checkins (but not market downloads) and MMS. Maybe not even MMS.
Note that the phone won't automatically connect to open APs that you haven't connected to before.
If you have wifi sleep policy set to "when screen is off", background data will be over the cell connection.
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Sorry but I can't find this setting. I'm looking in power saving settings and the only thing i see is turn off wifi when NOT connected with mobile AP. Does mobile access point mean wifi or cell data?
Settings>Wireless and network>Wifi settings hit menu and select Advanced
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Settings>Wireless and network>Wifi settings hit menu and select Advanced
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thanks,
just checked and its set to never.
I think you want to control access of data retrieval via cell network, right?
what I did was set the receiver options to airplane mode and then only enable the WiFi. That keeps the cell net from connecting. Also d/l an app to monitor your usage for piece of mind.
HTH
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thanks, i found an app called APN On/off
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I think you want to control access of data retrieval via cell network, right?
what I did was set the receiver options to airplane mode and then only enable the WiFi. That keeps the cell net from connecting. Also d/l an app to monitor your usage for piece of mind.
HTH
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If you do that you don't receive any call or sms, no?
QuarkZ26 said:
If you do that you don't receive any call or sms, no?
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With APN On/Off, it's a free app. I turn off the data and can still do everything else. It even has an option to keep MMS enabled
when i have the wifi connection on for a long time and then turn it off... the data connection doesn't restart... this happens also when I lose the mobile network signal.
I have tried off and on the data connection, activate and deactivate the flight mode but nothing, the only solution is to restart the phone.
i have a 5380L phone and a 2.3.6 stock ROM
Please check with the wifi sleep policy. Also check the apn list . Delete unwanted apn lists .
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Where can i find the wifi sleep policy settings?
elporcus20 said:
Where can i find the wifi sleep policy settings?
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Settings > Wireless & networks > Wi-Fi settings > *hit the menu capacitive button* > Advanced > Wi-Fi sleep policy.
Don't know if that will solve your issue, but that's where it is...
Hope that helps.
nop this doesn' t fix it... now also is happening randomly... i think the reason is a low signal from the mobile network... but does not reconnect, i can call, send sms, but I have no data connection
i rooted the phone with cf-root, i dont know if the kernel have a data control policy, i havent found anything about it
For a moment I thought the problem might be the baseband from the rom i have installed, but i have 3G in occasions
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For a moment I thought the problem might be the baseband from the rom i have installed, but i have 3G in occasions
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Change basebands or stock rom version. I had that problem once.
Just thought I'd share something that is really working for me in terms of battery life:
Create a smart action that disables cellular data whenever you are connected to a WiFi network.
I have been consistently getting 12+ hours of battery with moderate to heavy use when on only on WiFi.
Thanks for the tip. I will definitely try this.
pdefazio said:
Just thought I'd share something that is really working for me in terms of battery life:
Create a smart action that disables cellular data whenever you are connected to a WiFi network.
I have been consistently getting 12+ hours of battery with moderate to heavy use when on only on WiFi.
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I have the same setup. Also have an action when I turn my screen off it disables wifi, background sync, cell data, and GPS. 12+ hrs here also.
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I was thinking about setting something like that up, but was worried about interference with calls & SMS & junk... Any problems to report?
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bebeau25 said:
I have the same setup. Also have an action when I turn my screen off it disables wifi, background sync, cell data, and GPS. 12+ hrs here also.
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Why would you turn data off when screen is off??? Don't make sense doing that.
On mine data turns off the moment I connect to WiFi and that is the way it is supposed to work. Do you see a H, E, or whatever data icon next to the bars when you connect to WiFi? If not, it means data is already off. Why use the smart action then?
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I was thinking about setting something like that up, but was worried about interference with calls & SMS & junk... Any problems to report?
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Calls and SMS you should be fine with because they do not require a data connection.
Szadzik said:
On mine data turns off the moment I connect to WiFi and that is the way it is supposed to work. Do you see a H, E, or whatever data icon next to the bars when you connect to WiFi? If not, it means data is already off. Why use the smart action then?
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IIRC, although a WiFi data connection superceeds a cellular data connection when it is active, the 3G/4G radio is still alive even if it isn't involved in data transfers during that time..
I've certainly noticed improved battery life when on WiFi but explicitly turning the 3G/4G (mobile data) radio off.
jms_uk said:
IIRC, although a WiFi data connection superceeds a cellular data connection when it is active, the 3G/4G radio is still alive even if it isn't involved in data transfers during that time..
I've certainly noticed improved battery life when on WiFi but explicitly turning the 3G/4G (mobile data) radio off.
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+1
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The only problem i had with this was with MMS messages. can't send or receive MMS.
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Why would you turn data off when screen is off??? Don't make sense doing that.
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How not?? Your screen is off and 3G/WiFi is killing your battery for no reason (unless you are downloading or background sync on for a reason), so why not have it off when screen is off and save battery. I still stick with JuiceDefender for this.
jms_uk said:
IIRC, although a WiFi data connection superceeds a cellular data connection when it is active, the 3G/4G radio is still alive even if it isn't involved in data transfers during that time..
I've certainly noticed improved battery life when on WiFi but explicitly turning the 3G/4G (mobile data) radio off.
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1. Data radio is one and the same with your cellular calls radio, so unless you go into flight mode, it is going to be active.
2. If it is not sending or receiving data it is not using more energy than when data is disabled and cellular stays enabled.
Szadzik said:
1. Data radio is one and the same with your cellular calls radio, so unless you go into flight mode, it is going to be active.
2. If it is not sending or receiving data it is not using more energy than when data is disabled and cellular stays enabled.
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Interesting you say that, but I've noticed that as far as the what the phone's reporting via settings/toggle widgets etc.. "mobile data" is still active when WiFi is active (even if its status disappears from the notification bar and no actual mobile data activity is going on).. and, it can be explicitly turned off - leaving you still able to receive calls etc. Perhaps its not turning the
radio "off" per-se, but its definitely seems to be doing something over and above just letting WiFi take precidence for data transactions..
I've definitely noticed an improvement in battery life by doing this, over and above simply turning on and connecting to WiFi and NOT explicity turning mobile data off..
I also noticed that in some older versions/flavours of android (2.1, 2.2) the option to explicitly turn off "Mobile Data" wasn't present, relying instead (I assume) on what you've described above..
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1. Data radio is one and the same with your cellular calls radio, so unless you go into flight mode, it is going to be active.
2. If it is not sending or receiving data it is not using more energy than when data is disabled and cellular stays enabled.
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I don't believe this is correct. I believe the Wi-Fi chip is independent of the cellular antenna. That is what I have seen in every tear down of the phone.
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I don't believe this is correct. I believe the Wi-Fi chip is independent of the cellular antenna. That is what I have seen in every tear down of the phone.
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Where did I say WiFi radio and cellular radio are in one chip? I said DATA and CALLS chip is one and the same.
I thought that it would be better to bring back an old thread rather than start a new one.
I have a smart action as described in this thread that turns off cellular data whenever I am connected to wifi. However, the problem I have is that cellular data does not turn back on whenever I disconnect from wifi. I have to manually go into my settings and enable data. Has anyone else run into this?
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I thought that it would be better to bring back an old thread rather than start a new one.
I have a smart action as described in this thread that turns off cellular data whenever I am connected to wifi. However, the problem I have is that cellular data does not turn back on whenever I disconnect from wifi. I have to manually go into my settings and enable data. Has anyone else run into this?
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I sorta have the same(ish) problem. Data can take a little while to activate after I'm disconnected from WiFi. Every once in a while, I need to turn airplane mode on and off in order for data to turn blue. The fact that MMS messages are disabled with this Smart Action is a little disappointing too, but I don't receive enough while I'm home to be super frustrated by it...
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I think the problem is to do with Smart actions not returning your device back to the exact state it was in before the action was triggered.. Possibly also issues with other smart actions interfering with the state of other parameters..
I wonder why Moto didn't go with an 'exit action' approach used by apps like Tasker?
I was just looking through advanced settings under wifi and found a checkbox I'm not sure what it does. It's under wifi settings, advanced wifi settings, and there is a checkbox that says Battery saving for wi-fi and minimize battery usage when wifi is on. What exactly does that do?
No idea but I always have it on
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No idea but I always have it on
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So do I and that's why I'm wondering if it's shutting some things off that I don't want off.
Krusej23 said:
I was just looking through advanced settings under wifi and found a checkbox I'm not sure what it does. It's under wifi settings, advanced wifi settings, and there is a checkbox that says Battery saving for wi-fi and minimize battery usage when wifi is on. What exactly does that do?
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Saves battery by sacrificing Wifi performance. I always turn it off so my Wifi runs at peak performance. Your Wifi will likely transfer slower with this on.
bpyazel said:
Saves battery by sacrificing Wifi performance. I always turn it off so my Wifi runs at peak performance. Your Wifi will likely transfer slower with this on.
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How does it do that though?
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How does it do that though?
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If it works like the other "wifi optimization" settings on other phones, it just doesn't keep an active connection when the screen goes off. It then periodically makes a connection and checks if anything new needs received, causing delays in notifications.
Ive got that same setting on my lg volt and noticed that when it's checked i sometimes have exchange authentication problems with the default lg email app... but only on wifi.