Hi,
sorry for this dumb question but i bought a 16GB Flyer and i wondered where these 16GB are?
I already flashed HC and when i check "Settings" -> "Memory" i see an "internal memory" of 4GB and a "device memory" of 8,6GB.
So when i add the two values i get 12,6GB. So where are the 16GB (15,6GB exactly)?
Regards
Daniel
Dacoco said:
So when i add the two values i get 12,6GB. So where are the 16GB (15,6GB exactly)?
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I am sure that we have this question several times before but can't find them here in the forum.
So, the reason is android. The 16GB (or 32GB) are separated and used for
a) the system software (android, sense, ...)
b) internal memory (for Apps, data, ...)
c) an "pseudo" sd-card memory (device memory)
and you didn't see in the android settings the first part. So, this is missing in your calculation.
And also, 16GiB (or Gb, = 2^30) are differ from 16GB (=10^9) even if most manufacturer and many developer didn't make here a difference.
Okay, thanks. Then a) should be the left 3GB (still wondering because the HC Image was about 500MB...)
As we can use SD cards it's not really a problem but i don't think it's right to advertise 16GB when the user only can use the half of that...
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I am sure that we have this question several times before but can't find them here in the forum.
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That's the point. I was sure either there should be someone who asked this question already but i couldn't find a thread.
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Hey everyone!
Is there a way to method yet for the S2 to rewrite the partitions? My S2 will be arriving today, replacing my Desire Z, and so the only reason I ask is because I like a simple partition where there is one for the phone and one for the sdcard (especially when it comes to using CWM and such).
Like on a harddrive, rather than having two partitions, like this case where there is the "internal memory" of 1gb or whatever it is, and then the remainder 16gig (not including the sdcard) is read AS an external. Could it be simply rewritten for the internal to be ~17gb? I do remember rewriting partition size on the G1 to get Cyanogenmod 6 to fit on it.
Just curious, please don't flame me if this is not feasible (or has been already done, again I don't have the phone yet and I haven't come across anything in my research, and yes I did search for it, even used "partition" to find anything).
mrmartin86 said:
Hey everyone!
Is there a way to method yet for the S2 to rewrite the partitions? My S2 will be arriving today, replacing my Desire Z, and so the only reason I ask is because I like a simple partition where there is one for the phone and one for the sdcard (especially when it comes to using CWM and such).
Like on a harddrive, rather than having two partitions, like this case where there is the "internal memory" of 1gb or whatever it is, and then the remainder 16gig (not including the sdcard) is read AS an external. Could it be simply rewritten for the internal to be ~17gb? I do remember rewriting partition size on the G1 to get Cyanogenmod 6 to fit on it.
Just curious, please don't flame me if this is not feasible (or has been already done, again I don't have the phone yet and I haven't come across anything in my research, and yes I did search for it, even used "partition" to find anything).
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Hmm... Why would you want that? Explanation makes no sense.
You get about 500 MB system, 2 GB data, can't remember cache, then 11 GB as sdcard, with external sd optional.
You could modify the pit in theory but that's risky, and what you are trying seems confused or outdated for this phone
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Hmm... Why would you want that? Explanation makes no sense.
You get about 500 MB system, 2 GB data, can't remember cache, then 11 GB as sdcard, with external sd optional.
You could modify the pit in theory but that's risky, and what you are trying seems confused or outdated for this phone
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Well I am just thinking from my experience with the Captivate that it poses some "oddness" when dealing with the sdcard and things like CWM, since when you put an sdcard it, it then has 3 partitions (internal, "internal extention," and the sdcard). Is there a reason the extra space is partitioned out instead of having it as part of the internal?
I have 25Gb of available space but less than 2Gb for apps? I'd like to use all internal storage for apps and the external card for media. Any idea how I set that up?
I have a Galaxy S2 Epic (SPH-D710) stock ROM, rooted with the zermax kernel and fited with a Sandisk 16Gb class 4 micro sd card.
Problem discovered while installing Navfree. Got the error message "not enough space". So I can't install and move.
Settings>Applications>Maganage applications>All shows
112Mb used of 1.9Gb available.
Settings>Storage>USB storage shows
Total space is 11.5Gb and Available space 11.5Gb
Settings>Storage>SD card shows
Total space 14.83Gb (aka 16Gb!) and Available space 14.81Gb.
syco123 said:
Settings>Storage>SD card shows
Total space 14.83Gb (aka 16Gb!) and Available space 14.81Gb.
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That's perfectly normal dude.. The system uses a chunk of the built-in 16GB for the ROM's use (/system, /data, /cache plus a few other partitions), and the rest is assigned to /sdcard, hence the 11.5GB (I know, that's kind of like false advertisement but what you wanna do ? Sue Samsung ?)
And for the external SD, that's also normal. I'm surprised you didn't notice this detail on the capacity of your harddrive before : end-users tend to think in "base2" (whereas 1KB=1024 bytes, 1MB=1024KB, 1GB=1024MB, and so on), while media manufacturers count in "base10" (i.e. 1KB=1000bytes, 1MB=1000KB, etc). It's a cheap way to reach the symbolic "GB", "TB", "PB" (etc) landmarks more quickly (at least, quicker than the competition).
Do the maths, you'll see that over 16GB that makes a huge chunk of "magically" disappeared storage, but it never was there to begin with.. Also false advertising there, kind of.. But we're all in the same boat here. :S
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That's perfectly normal dude..
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Yea, I understand that, that why I put "(aka 16Gb") as I'm referring to a 16Gb card but listing 14.83Gb available. It was to not cause confusion, guess I failed there!
The problem I'm having is, I need around 4Gb (apparently) to install Navfree. I only have 2Gb available to apps even though I have 25Gb of storage.
People must be installing Navfree, so I must be doing something wrong.
16GB is 16000000000btye/1024/ 1024/1024 = 14. 9GB.
So it is 16Gb and not 16GB.
No such 4gb large program for android. The program is maybe 10-20mb. And the 4gb is the DATA. You can store the 4gb in your SD card.
Accidentally sent from my Google Nexus S using XDA Premium
I just tried again and it installed with a file size of 15.53Mb. Weird, Oh well, thanks anyway.
yeah i was gonna say : you might find some bloatware on the android market here and there, but by and large it is still pretty much immune to this phenomenon..
A 4GB program is something you might encounter under Windows, but Linux ?
Sorry that my first post is reviving an old-ish thread, but the initial question asked hasn't been answered (and a search of the forum didn't help me)..
Is it possible to resize the partitions of the internal storage on my s2, and if so, how?
And whilst on the subject of the internal storage, can someone please clarify if flashing a custom ROM will affect files on the "USB storage" partition, or only the files stored on the "internal" storage partition?
Sorry if these seem like noobish questions, but I am new to this customising malarkey, and want to make sure I don't lose any data unnecessarily, like I did countless times with my iPhone...
nope, flashing a rom (either stock or custom) *should* not alter usb or internal sdcard storage. If it does, that's a surefire sign that the guy who cooked the said rom has no friggin clue whatsoever about what he's messing with and to steer clear from this particular rom...
It must be possible to alter the partitioning scheme to resize the internal storage. At least that's the theory, we're dealing with a flavor of linux here, and everything is doable with linux -and enough effort and dedication.
However, as this partition lies on the same emmc chip as the system, data, cache and kernel/recovery/bootloader partitions, I highly recommend *NOT* to mess with it in any way -not unless you have another smartphone lying around that you could use as backup while your borked SGS2 is shipped back to the samsung service centre, and you're prepared to spend some $$ over the repairs (since rooting is absolutely necessary for this kind of manipulation, your warranty would theoretically be null&void in the process)...
Hi all,
I've just received my HTC desire x, checking the specs there is written
that the internal memory should be 4GB, but I have just 1GB.
the total space shows 1.09 GB (screenshot attached)
on the HTC website there's written
Total storage: 4 GB, available capacity varies*
and then *Available storage is less due to phone software.
Is it possible that the OS takes 3GB? Seems a bit too much for me...
Any idea?
Thanks all in advance
crazypixel said:
Hi all,
I've just received my HTC desire x, checking the specs there is written
that the internal memory should be 4GB, but I have just 1GB.
the total space shows 1.09 GB (screenshot attached)
on the HTC website there's written
Total storage: 4 GB, available capacity varies*
and then *Available storage is less due to phone software.
Is it possible that the OS takes 3GB? Seems a bit too much for me...
Any idea?
Thanks all in advance
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This is correct man. There is no issue or problem. The system takes ~3gb. Cos imagine when you are factory resetting your phone. The original OS file (called ROM) will reside in that memory with a whole lot of other backup stuff which you cant access.
This is why ppl use CUSTOM ROMS, cos we remove bloatware and other things.
What you see in that screenshot is same as mine and as other. Just buy an external card and it will rock
and please go to about > software update > PRESS CHECK NOW even though "Scheduled Check" is ticked cos there are updates and possibly u have one waiting also.
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This is correct man. There is no issue or problem. The system takes ~3gb. Cos imagine when you are factory resetting your phone. The original OS file (called ROM) will reside in that memory with a whole lot of other backup stuff which you cant access.
This is why ppl use CUSTOM ROMS, cos we remove bloatware and other things.
What you see in that screenshot is same as mine and as other. Just buy an external card and it will rock
and please go to about > software update > PRESS CHECK NOW even though "Scheduled Check" is ticked cos there are updates and possibly u have one waiting also.
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^ +1.
anyway i cant see why 1gb isnt enough for apps and games. if you have a sd card, it will be more than enough because of the ability to move apps to sd.
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This is correct man. There is no issue or problem. The system takes ~3gb. Cos imagine when you are factory resetting your phone. The original OS file (called ROM) will reside in that memory with a whole lot of other backup stuff which you cant access.
This is why ppl use CUSTOM ROMS, cos we remove bloatware and other things.
What you see in that screenshot is same as mine and as other. Just buy an external card and it will rock
and please go to about > software update > PRESS CHECK NOW even though "Scheduled Check" is ticked cos there are updates and possibly u have one waiting also.
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Thanks man all doubts vanished now,
does it mean that once rooted (I haven't seen any good rom around yet, please advise if you know any)
I can partition the internal memory? Or it's better not to partition anything for a smoother and faster phone?
Thanks again
Yes 4GB in these mount points:
dev - 303MB
cache - 251MB
data 1,1GB
internal memory (emmc) - 1,1GB
system/942MB
Plus a few more like radio boot and / mount point. It's up around 4GB.
i think you want this? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD
with that app. you will no longer have to worry about low internal storage again. i use that all the time on my previous phone who has low internal memory (400mb below). but with des x i dont need it. 1gb internal memory are a lot!
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Yes 4GB in these mount points:
dev - 303MB
cache - 251MB
data 1,1GB
internal memory (emmc) - 1,1GB
system/942MB
Plus a few more like radio boot and / mount point. It's up around 4GB.
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Is it possible to reformat partitions? Why not to have internal memory (emmc) - 1,1GB and system/942MB merged? I'm not using emmc, cuz I have SDCard for all my stuff, so 1,1 Gb are empty, but I have insufficient space on system.
Hello I have rooted my Galasy S4 and flashed cm onto the device. My question is how do i free up the internal storage? I still only have less than 9.57gb of available storage. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
anash5289 said:
Hello I have rooted my Galasy S4 and flashed cm onto the device. My question is how do i free up the internal storage? I still only have less than 9.57gb of available storage. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Not much really frees up the space because you can break programs or the phone. You can use FolderMount to symlink files from the SD to the Memory Card. Your limited to 3 symlinks unless you buy the program. Myself I couldn't get it to work but maybe I was linking wrong.
anash5289 said:
Hello I have rooted my Galasy S4 and flashed cm onto the device. My question is how do i free up the internal storage? I still only have less than 9.57gb of available storage. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Samsung has reserved 6 GB of space for the system, etc. There is no way to get more space, other than an external SD card.
I just have seen screenshots of available storage at 16.00gb mine only shows 9.57gb. That is the only reason I have asked. Thanks for the responses.
There isnt much we can do about that. All we can do is get a larger sd card
Due to variances in how manufacturers measure their space (GB vs GiB: a short version is using 1000MB = 1GB when, strictly speaking, 1024MB = 1GiB), you will never have the same amount of advertised space available on a device.
A device advertised as 16GB will have between 14.3-14.6GiB of available space, depending on the manufacturer. Cut out ~6 of that for Samsung's bloat, and you're left with the 9.x that we currently have.
Whenever possible, store items on your external storage and research if some of the apps you are using will allow the App2SD function (can anyone verify if this still works? I read somewhere it was disabled with the JellyBean update).
Hope that helps, and good luck managing your space. Perhaps its time we all stop being such space hogs ...........(on second thought...nah!)
[SOLVED SOLVED SOLVED]
I found out, to sweet relief, that I have the 16GB model
When you restart the tablet, cyanoboot lists the specs at the top left corner.
You will notice that the 16GB model shows up as having 5.3GBs in the storage menu. This is false. What's really happened is that you have a 7.5GB partition with free space. If you wish to reclaim this space, you must repartition your nook (a risky process). If you want to use that space without risking bricking, you can simply copy over your files and documents to that partition easily using the file manager. Hope that helps.
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Hi everyone, I recently won a bid on Ebay and bought a Nook Tablet for $50, with free shipping.
I successfully flashed CM10 blah blah...and when I go into Settings > Device > Storage, it lists the following:
Total space: 5.50GB
Available 5.31GB
... blah blah ...
... blah blah ...
... blah blah ...
Internal storage
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Total space: 7.45GB
Now, it seems to me that this tablet is the 8GB model. The seller stated the item was 16GB...
(I backed up the stock ROM already, in case I needed to return the item should it not be as described).
I want to know what amount of space those of you running the 16GB model have in that menu.
Is there a way to confirm if my tablet really is the 16GB model or 8GB model? (Note: I didn't even bother to register on the official nook ROM from fear of updating it to a un-hackable ROM, so I don't know what model I have unless I reflash the stock ROM and register!) Is it possible that there could be unallocated space that CM isn't finding?
If it really is the 8GB model, I can contact the seller (who offers free return shipping) and get a replacement.
Please help!
I believe that's its the 8 if the system states that I believe its true.
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I believe that's its the 8 if the system states that I believe its true.
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using xda premium
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Damn! I waited a week for this thing to come! Now I have to spend another week getting a replacement!
Alright, I'd like to hear from a person who has the 16GB model and see how much space s/he has before shipping this back...
Le sigh...
UPDATE! Question answered!!!
So, when I rebooted the tablet again, I saw cyanoboot say this model was the 1GB/16GB model at the top.
It is indeed the 16GB model!
I opened up the terminal app and also checked some things in the file manager...
Output of "df" (the marked stat I believe to be the unallocated space):
imgbin (dot) org/images/14562.png
(I can't post image links yet because I'm a noob)
Now, I forgot to post this earlier, but I see on the bottom that there is ANOTHER storage tab which states:
Internal storage (representation of the bar. Plus signs mean a gray strip):
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Total space: 7.45GB
Available: 7.45GB
Furthermore, I opened up the file manager. After doing so, I am presented with the location "sdcard0" which contains folders such as B&N Downloads, LOST.dir, and My Files. These seem to be present from the previous stock Nook firmware. I seem to have not thoroughly reset/format the tablet...
Could someone tell me how I would go about reclaiming the space? If required, I can reflash it easily.
Great you the model figured it out! Easiest way to check (because many get confused with the storage numbers and don't realize there are more than one partition) is to look at the model number in faint lettering under the speaker (at the back). The 8GB is 250A and the 16GB is 250.
What space do you need to reclaime? The 7.45 is there for you to use freely. 5GB is for apps and approx 3GB is for OS. If you want to change partition sizes you need to repartition. seacrch for that and you shall find, but quite frankly, I think the current partitions are fine sinec you can always use sd card.
really, thats my question too, how to repartition the emmc? searched the forum but couldn't find a tutorial. it seems only way to do that is open up the tablet, take the emmc out and repartition it the hard way can you help me with a more suitable solution?
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really, thats my question too, how to repartition the emmc? searched the forum but couldn't find a tutorial. it seems only way to do that is open up the tablet, take the emmc out and repartition it the hard way can you help me with a more suitable solution?
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Putting "repartition nook tablet" into Google gave me (as no.3 on the list of results) a "how to video" that is an illustration of this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531120
But honestly, you'll just gain a couple of GB to the 8 you already have. You probably want to keep around 2-3 GB for the user data and that leaves 12-13GB for "media". You already have 8GB and the option to use an sd card. Is it worth the bother if you're not that into this stuff?
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Putting "repartition nook tablet" into Google gave me (as no.3 on the list of results) a "how to video" that is an illustration of this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531120
But honestly, you'll just gain a couple of GB to the 8 you already have. You probably want to keep around 2-3 GB for the user data and that leaves 12-13GB for "media". You already have 8GB and the option to use an sd card. Is it worth the bother if you're not that into this stuff?
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I agree with you. It is best to leave it alone. 5.3GBs is plentyyy of space for apps. I am actually only using 200MB of space for apps right now and I have Firefox and a FTP server app. Besides, I can use the 7.5GBs of space as a data partition, I can, for example, copy over my music and PDF files to that partition.
I also have a 16GB microsd card also in the nook tablet, so I am not in dire need of space anyways lol XD
I shall mark this thread solved
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Putting "repartition nook tablet" into Google gave me (as no.3 on the list of results) a "how to video" that is an illustration of this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531120
But honestly, you'll just gain a couple of GB to the 8 you already have. You probably want to keep around 2-3 GB for the user data and that leaves 12-13GB for "media". You already have 8GB and the option to use an sd card. Is it worth the bother if you're not that into this stuff?
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mine has 11 GB as /data ,media partition is not there for some reason i figured that 3-4 gb is more than enough for apps, i want the rest in sdcard0
rafiur said:
mine has 11 GB as /data ,media partition is not there for some reason i figured that 3-4 gb is more than enough for apps, i want the rest in sdcard0
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This proibably means yours hasn't been through the BN reparttition scheme. If you've got a BN store nearby they can repartition it for you to the 5 GB Data and 8GB Media or whatever it's called (where you store your own stuff). If you (like me) don't have the option to do that you can run the repart.img dexcribed in this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663836 yourself to get those partitions. Topic doesn't say it's for repartition, but the repart.img sure does that!
Edit: Or maybe I misunderstand you. Maybe you have a device that has been repartitioned "manually", giving you 11GB for your own storage? Cause I donät recognize the number 11. In that case you do NOT want to do any more repartitioning!!