Ok, so I sold my iPhone 4 in anticipation of the 5. While looking around came across the SGS2. Looked very nice so I got one. My first mistake was buying from pictures and not holding the device in my hand. From the moment I took the battery cover off, it's not been good. This thing feels like it should have cost £50 on ebay, it's just soo plastic and so thin, I'm afraid that when at work (i'm an engineer so lots of bending, squatting, laying etc) it's going to snap in two in my pocket. It's just "laggy" and "buggy" the keyboard is unresponsive, it feels like a resistive device, I have to knock it into and out of flight mode every few hours as it seems to lose it's data connection, touchwiz is just butt ugly, apps are butt ugly.
I love the "openness" of android, I love the "geekiness" and customisability of it. I love the fact I have 48GB of storage (even if the phone refuses to use the extra 32GB in any decent way)
I have had this phone for about 4-5 days and already I find myself picking it up to play with and throwing it back down again without unlocking the screen.
So, I have come here for some decent advice. I couldn't ask this question in an iPhone forum because the responses would be very biased, but, I have found on this forum, you generally get people's honest, unbiased opinion.
Should I get rid of this phone and wait for the iPhone 5? the one thing I miss about the iPhone is although it didn't necessarily do everything, what it did do worked, the apps I used looked good, the device felt well built and was always responsive. Am I expecting too much from the SGS2? will I get used to it? will I grow to love it?
feedback especially welcome from anyone that has came from an iPhone 4 to a SGS2 and can see my point of view?!
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From what I read, it looks like you are a real iPhone user. As a friend speaking, I would recommend you to go buy your phone as you will never be happy with another non-Apple device. Is the same like telling a BMW lover that Audi is better, he will still dream of the next M3 model. Asking advice here will not get you unbiased responses as we all love the S2, as well Android.
For example, I don't think at all the S2 feels like a cheap device. In fact, it contains top technology that blows any current phone on the market. Personally, I believe that Samsung hardware is better than iPhone and even if iPhone 5 is released it will not beat the current S2 at any level. Not to mention that Samsung will release another model that will make iPhone 5 look like a cheap toy.
What matters most is your opinion, not ours. Who cares if we like better the S2, what matters is what you like to use on a daily basis. If the iPhone makes you happier, go for it.
Cheers
jmpmjmpm said:
Ok, so I sold my iPhone 4 in anticipation of the 5. While looking around came across the SGS2. Looked very nice so I got one. My first mistake was buying from pictures and not holding the device in my hand. From the moment I took the battery cover off, it's not been good. This thing feels like it should have cost £50 on ebay, it's just soo plastic and so thin,
I am of the opposite view .
I'm afraid that when at work (i'm an engineer so lots of bending, squatting, laying etc) it's going to snap in two in my pocket.
Tests have shown thats unlikely .
It's just "laggy" and "buggy" the keyboard is unresponsive, it feels like a resistive device,
Not on mine maybe you have a fault .
Really you should not keep a phone you dont like or feel is wrong for you .
Thats why i dont own IPhone as i feel its inferior .
You feel the SGS2 is inferior sell it buy a cheap phone and wait for IPhone 5 is what i would do in your shoes .
jje
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should have known i would get a severely biased response
i have no loyalty to either, i buy the best, if its a pos I bin it, i have no probs doing that but before I make a decision, I would have liked some objective responses
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cheers JJegan, thats the type of opinion I am after (either way)
"From what I read, it looks like you are a real iPhone user"
Just wanted to add my recent device history is, htc hero>htc desire>iPhone 3gs (binned it and went back to desire)>iPhone 4>SGS2
so if anything, I've spend a LOT longer on android that ios I'm not a "real" iPhone user, I'm a "realist" be that on android or ios
Sell the SII, buy the Iphone 5. It's obvious you won't feel happy with Samsung. Replies are not biased at all, we just read your comment and saw you gave no plus for SII, so why would you keep it, when, based on your description, SII is a crap phone ?
Clearly iAddicted, you should stay with apple and never test something else
For a Sammy GS2 you need to be a FlashAholic and be able to handle the user freedom of modding and stuff (this part makes the GS2 for me the place to be and never go for a iphone).
On topic, that backplate is very solid though it look fragile, seen some tests on youtube with tons of extreme bending and folding, it was still in perfect afterwards.
In fairness this poster doesn't seem like your average Apple fanboy who appear on these forums from time to time talking crap i do believe this poster is genuine.
Coming from an iPhone to Android is a bit like having sex for the first time a very new experience and for some it's excellent and for others it's not been as good.
What former iPhone users who have just "graduated" to Android have to understand is that it is a very different concept, not everything is spick and span and ready to go, you do have to take a bit of time out and customize your phone and apply various tweaks,etc,etc,etc, eventually your Galaxy S2 will be absolutely amazing,read up on here extensively, for a start i highly recommend downloading Titanium Backup PRO and freezing all Samsung Apps your battery life will increase ten fold, it goes without saying you should root your phone and apply a custom ROM, there are many good ROM's personally the best ive ever had is the one in my signature, there can be no denying that the Galaxy S2 blows any other smartphone out of the water but don't just take my view for it or people on these forums one only has to read the countless reviews from trusted Tech websites online to tell you this,Android is the way forward why do you think they are continually outselling iPhones, people are finally realising that open source and being able to flash custom ROM's and customize your phone is the way to go rather than be locked down to whatever Apple tell you.
To conclude - OP take a lot of time to read what is on these forums, i spent 3 weeks reading up here before i even had a Galaxy S2 so id would be more clued up and know what to do to make your phone even more amazing.
lol at people *****ing at the OP. Have you actually read his post or just seen the iphone mentioned and jumped on the bandwagon of abusing the guy.
OP, all the faults you mention, (apart from the feeling plastic bit which is subjective and took me a little while to get used to how light and thin this phone is), are not generally in most peoples phones. Where did you buy it from as it sounds more likely that you have a faulty one to me. You could try factory resetting it and seeing if that helps but if you bought it new id get it swapped asap if i were you.
If you dont like the keyboard, download a different one. I use smart keyboard pro and that has a iphone style keypad that works perfectly well. Not sure what you mean by the apps are butt ugly though. Do you mean just the icons or you cant find apps you like? As for touchwiz, use a different launcher. I like launcher pro but a lot of people prefer GOlauncher.
The beauty of android is you customise it how you wish to, not how apple wishes you to.
But first things first you need to sort out the laggy and buggy aspect as that shouldnt be there.
i was like yourself. sold my iphone 4 which i loved to death and i pimped it up through jailbreaking it and was looking for which phone to go next...The S2 was the one for me. Picked it up when it first came and my first thoughts were what a piece of plastic ****....
But i have grown to love it. with a good case it feels solid in your hands and the size of the screen is just about right. funnily enough i even swapped it in the start for a htc sensation but because i could not customise it with roms i wanted this bad boy back straight away.. now i have it i cant live with out it.
So many new phones are coming out now but i will eagerly await when the S3 comes out. The handset does what i want it to do, it has HD recording and plenty of space in the memory department..
So my advice give it time and you will grow to love it...But if you feel that its not right for you then sell it and get the iphone when it comes out...I for one turned from the darkside to the light
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What former iPhone users who have just "graduated" to Android have to understand is that it is a very different concept, not everything is spick and span and ready to go, you do have to take a bit of time out and customize your phone...
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I run the latest KI3 2.3.5 stock firmware and there is a difference from day and night, compared to KG2 that my phone came with. Android evolves so fast and with every new release is so much better that is hard to even keep up with it. Hell, other companies would of probably label that version 2.4.0, not just a minor bug release.
I wish every company would dedicate their efforts in perfecting software like Google does. Let's look at performance differences between 2.3.4 and 2.3.5, is incomparable. Quadrant pushes at 4200+ on S2, the phone is smooth as silk and super responsive while the battery life is further improved. What more could I ask for?
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hey [OP] you clearly hate the device... no probs.. just ship it to me.. i will thank your OP..
Congrats op, you just described my exact feelings about every Samsung phone I've ever looked at. A little advice: get a HTC phone, root it, and flash miui. You'll never go back to apple.
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fellas, thanks for some really good feedback. The jury is still out on the phone. I'm hoping as I become more "in tune" with android again, I will realise that it's a good device. I also plan on flashing a new rom, to get away from the stock. It may well be what is responsible for the "buggy" experience I'm having (especially seeing as several of you say this isn't normal )
On that subject, is there a favourite rom I can try? I've had a look around and am a little confused, i.e. different kernels, kernels separate from rom's, cyanogen, miui??? I rooted the phone with cf's root, but then that isn't compatible with rom manager? litening rom looks quite good?!
when I had my desire I dont remember having kernels separate from rom's, or having to check compatibility. Anyone know of a good re-introduction type thread or blog etc which explains all this stuff?
cheers
jmpmjmpm said:
fellas, thanks for some really good feedback. The jury is still out on the phone. I'm hoping as I become more "in tune" with android again, I will realise that it's a good device. I also plan on flashing a new rom, to get away from the stock. It may well be what is responsible for the "buggy" experience I'm having (especially seeing as several of you say this isn't normal )
On that subject, is there a favourite rom I can try? I've had a look around and am a little confused, i.e. different kernels, kernels separate from rom's, cyanogen, miui??? I rooted the phone with cf's root, but then that isn't compatible with rom manager? litening rom looks quite good?!
when I had my desire I dont remember having kernels separate from rom's, or having to check compatibility. Anyone know of a good re-introduction type thread or blog etc which explains all this stuff?
cheers
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if you check on each roms thread in the first page it has all the answers to the questions you have regarding installing the rom on their buddy. have a look and do a bit of research and you be good to go...no point me saying which rom is best and how you install it go into the development sections and go on to the rom you fancy and read through the first pages
just a quick update guys, I installed litening rom and only been using it for 10 mins but the difference if like night and day, now the phone is fast and responsive. I can type a quickly and accurately as with the my ole iphone.
so... seems maybe a lot of the issues were a fault with my carrier branded stock rom. Thanks for identifying this for me guys. I also bought a nice lil case from amazon, it's nothing supreme but built well, with a built in flip out stand so, now the phone feels a lot better in the hand.
Quite a bit happier now, I really appreciate the time a lot of you took to help what probably seemed like (to use a linuxism) YAIFT (yet another iphone fanboi troll)
cheers
jmpmjmpm said:
just a quick update guys, I installed litening rom and only been using it for 10 mins but the difference if like night and day, now the phone is fast and responsive. I can type a quickly and accurately as with the my ole iphone.
so... seems maybe a lot of the issues were a fault with my carrier branded stock rom. Thanks for identifying this for me guys. I also bought a nice lil case from amazon, it's nothing supreme but built well, with a built in flip out stand so, now the phone feels a lot better in the hand.
Quite a bit happier now, I really appreciate the time a lot of you took to help what probably seemed like (to use a linuxism) YAIFT (yet another iphone fanboi troll)
cheers
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Lol... I used iPhone for a year, I understand what you're going through, but the freedom is amazing here with android. It's your device, do what you feel like with it, change complete os, launchers, lockscreens, skies the limit
You should give miui a shot as well, I love it and highly recommend it.
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Hey guys. Just wondering if anyone feels sort of the same way as me.
I spent around $650 USD and waited 3 months (from when the official international UK version was released) to purchase the S2 from overseas. Now the phone is going to become released in the U.S.
A part of me feels sort of disappointed and excited, yet I should be very happy now that it is available here (finally!!!). I guess I just wanted a phone where it wasn't too popular in the states. A part of spending a large amount of money (with no binding contract to a carrier) gave me a sense of uniqueness in that I was "one of few" to actually have this phone. Also, the forums here are quite valuable with so many users that I feel like I am part of a special S2 community...but with the announcement of this phone in the U.S., it seems like everyone "else" (yes, all the "other" people... you name it, they've got it) would eventually have it. I guess you can't help but wonder how special your phone is, heh.
I suppose I like to have electronic devices that is rare. Thus, when someone sees you off the street holding a S2, their impression would be like "Woah. That is cool. What is that?" But I guess in a few months, people would be more like "Is that the S2? Here's mine, too. And all my friends have it!"
Anyone feel the same way, heh?
Cool story bro.
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Not much in a way, people still keep thinking it's an iPhone which makes me giggle lol. You still have the uniqueness factor since the phone looks physically different from the variants.
I'm pretty much like that too, I usually had the odd phone that nobody even knew the name. I always tell my friends about how iPhone is like a DVD player, everyone has one and knows how to operate it and I was thinking in the same line about the SGS2 since you can buy it off the cell company. This wasn't like that last year, you couldn't even find any android phones, we have a huge blackberry market and quickly diving. But the SGS2 is an android phone, that means you can have any UI, on iPhone you have iOS and works the way apple wants it to work and that's it, with the SGS2 it'll be different, you have TouchWiz as a default interface, and you can also have ADW, LauncherPro etc, you can even have MIUI on it, then it comes the millions of roms that we have and will have more coming as soon as SGS2 starts selling in the US. Now think about the people that are square headed that don't even know what ROOT is and don't even care about it, if they try to use your phone and you don't have TouchWiz it will be like a windows fan using linux, he/she will know is the same phone but won't be able to use it as easy as theirs. And you have widgets and all the customization on the different launchers.
I know what you're going tru lol
So to sum up, you chose a phone because you wanted to stroke your own ego with your "sense of uniqueness" and impress your "friends", and are now disappointed because other people will spoil your unique user experience by having the temerity to get a similar device.
Poor little thing. Just wait until the next Shiny New Thing, buy it, bask in your own smugness and find another forum to tell people how special you are.
I spent 750 with first original stock and it was worth every penny. The only thing that got my attention is the Samsung Note.
This device will easily last 2 years for the casual person and another 6-12 months with the tech geek.
Last I read over 3 million GS2 had been sold in Europe alone so I can imagine at least a couple hundred thousand were sold in USA despite not being on general sale there that's not to say people didn't buy them online and not taking into account the many more sold throughout the rest of the world so hardly a unique phone for the privileged few this phone has been Samsung's biggest selling handset to date and with good reason!
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Of course the phone will become more popular as it gets released in more places. That's progress. Accept it.
Samsung have a winning phone on their hands; they'd be utterly stupid to not try selling it in every country in the world.
If you want something new, go and buy the Samsung Galaxy S 3 whenever it's released. (but accept that other people are going to buy it too)
SII already achieved a great level of admiration as after 3 months of release it's still the most wanted and popular phone people wanna hold. I believe it will have a record sales figure worldwide.
But OP- Poor thinking, shame on you.
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The only thing that got my attention is the 7.7.
This device will easily last 2 years for the casual person and another 6-12 months with the tech geek.
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B3311 said:
So to sum up, you chose a phone because you wanted to stroke your own ego with your "sense of uniqueness" and impress your "friends", and are now disappointed because other people will spoil your unique user experience by having the temerity to get a similar device.
Poor little thing. Just wait until the next Shiny New Thing, buy it, bask in your own smugness and find another forum to tell people how special you are.
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Took the words out of my mouth.
But hey, it's suckers like OP that I find easy to make money from.
I know how you feel. Its just a nice experience when you own a device that others have never even seen. I owned a Microsoft zune a few years back which wasn't released here in the uk. When I showed it to iPod user's they just said "wow is that a new iPod?" Although the galaxy s2 is wildly available in the UK there are still alot of people that don't know what they are, especially iPhone users. I've already been asked if it was an iphone5. I replied no its much better than one of those old iPhones. I'm then quickly followed by a confused look and a sharp reply of "iPhones are the best though aren't they?" So funny.
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Took the words out of my mouth.
But hey, it's suckers like OP that I find easy to make money from.
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(uJelly?)
With all do respect, I absolutely love this phone. I just felt as with an increased presence in the States, it could potentially turn to something along the lines of an iPhone, whereby almost every user wants/or already has it. It's one of the things I dislike about Apple products is because of the all-too familiarity around here. Pretty much everywhere I go, I would see someone carrying an iPhone. Makes you feel slightly less exclusive. However, if it's a good product, then obviously everyone is going to get it.
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So to sum up, you chose a phone because you wanted to stroke your own ego with your "sense of uniqueness" and impress your "friends", and are now disappointed because other people will spoil your unique user experience by having the temerity to get a similar device.
Poor little thing. Just wait until the next Shiny New Thing, buy it, bask in your own smugness and find another forum to tell people how special you are.
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There is nothing wrong with a bit if pride and the desire to be unique.
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(uJelly?)
With all do respect, I absolutely love this phone. I just felt as with an increased presence in the States, it could potentially turn to something along the lines of an iPhone, whereby almost every user wants/or already has it. It's one of the things I dislike about Apple products is because of the all-too familiarity around here. Pretty much everywhere I go, I would see someone carrying an iPhone. Makes you feel slightly less exclusive. However, if it's a good product, then obviously everyone is going to get it.
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Totally agree
Alazarin said:
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With all do respect, I absolutely love this phone. I just felt as with an increased presence in the States, it could potentially turn to something along the lines of an iPhone, whereby almost every user wants/or already has it. It's one of the things I dislike about Apple products is because of the all-too familiarity around here. Pretty much everywhere I go, I would see someone carrying an iPhone. Makes you feel slightly less exclusive. However, if it's a good product, then obviously everyone is going to get it.
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I thought that individualism was one of the central tenets of American culture.
I don't see how it's a bad thing if the SGSII (or any other Android phone for that matter) becomes more popular. A larger install base means the platform is more attractive for app developers, and it's the quality and quantity of these quality apps that make or break a platform. This is just my opinion, but I feel that in this area, Android still has to catch up with iOS. I can't help but feel that I had access to a greater variety of good apps when I was on my iPhone 3GS.
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There is nothing wrong with a bit if pride and the desire to be unique.
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Being anti-conformist for the sake of being anti-conformist is a form of conformity in itself.
Alazarin said:
(uJelly?)
With all do respect, I absolutely love this phone. I just felt as with an increased presence in the States, it could potentially turn to something along the lines of an iPhone, whereby almost every user wants/or already has it. It's one of the things I dislike about Apple products is because of the all-too familiarity around here. Pretty much everywhere I go, I would see someone carrying an iPhone. Makes you feel slightly less exclusive. However, if it's a good product, then obviously everyone is going to get it.
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I think there is only one option left for you and it ain't a good one.
To be unique, buy a phone that doesn't sell well, meaning an ugly underpowered , crashing and medicore phone. Thats how you will be unique.
Thats the price you pay for wanting a top selling and great phone. In the end everybody wants a phone that is on top of the line.
Learn to live with it that you are not alone when you buy these phones.
When i see around me people with GS II then i know i probably made a good decision.
If i bought a phone that nobody has then its rubbish or insane expensive.
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I thought that individualism was one of the central tenets of American culture.
I don't see how it's a bad thing if the SGSII (or any other Android phone for that matter) becomes more popular. A larger install base means the platform is more attractive for app developers, and it's the quality and quantity of these quality apps that make or break a platform. This is just my opinion, but I feel that in this area, Android still has to catch up with iOS. I can't help but feel that I had access to a greater variety of good apps when I was on my iPhone 3GS.
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True. Good point.
Hopefully, Samsung continues to make great quality products. IMHO, I'll take quality over quantity (or massive production of inferior products in order to just reach a certain quota) any day of the week.
You could look at it a different way...
Think about this, for a start not everyone will get or be in the position to get an S2. Instead of 'oh that's cool what is it' you might get people saying hey an S2 they are great aren't they? I have one and just put the latest xxx rom on it, have you tried it, take a look A full on conversation going about how good the phone is, while others around wonder why they don't have one of these phones.
I already have (here in Belfast Northern Ireland) been talking to a complete stranger and quickly set his phone up a bit better for him on the spot! He thanked me and said he is very new to android. I showed him my setup and he was impressed so I pointed him in the direction of xda.
So if you like it might not be such a unique club soon, but it will still be a chosen few only with a few more friendly members, don't you think?
MJ-12
Is it just me or is the Galaxy S2 a victim of its own popularity in the fact that it has so many moaners? I'm completely satisfied with my White GS2, autobrightness is a bit poor but that's not a big deal to me. I've owned a few Android phones,
HTC Tattoo.
HTC Desire.
ZTE Blade.
Motorola Defy.
HTC HD2 (with Android obviously)
Sony X10i.
This phone has been my best experience with an Android phone so far. I used to be a fan of Sense but i feel Touchwiz is BETTER! I think the main problem is the happy users (The majority!) don't feel the need to speak up about it whereas many unhappy users want to make their voice heard. There are people actually saying they HATE this phone on these forums...if that is the case why are they hanging around? Sell the phone and leave the forums
I guess when a device sells as well as the GS2 you do end up with a lot of users who bought the phone simply because it's the most popular currently and they haven't done their research prior to buying or upgrading.
That, and the age-old problem that people very very rarely make the effort just to say "My [insert item here] is awesome, that is all." They more often use the effort to moan.
I bloody love my SGS2, best phone I've ever had. Makes everything else look like a poor cousin, even to the point that I don't feel the need to root at the moment - I had to root my Desire not long after I had it to love it this much!
I had the (mis?)fortune to get a play around with an IPhone 4S the other day, and the SGS2 feels so far ahead it's not even funny anymore.
I had to root my Desire for one simple reason. More space for apps. A2SD!
Is it just me or is the Galaxy S2 a victim of its own popularity in the fact that it has so many moaners?
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totally.
And far too many inexperienced user who dont know how to utilise the phone properly, refuse to read and educate themselves or look for the slightest error and go nuts with it
I think its also wanting to feel part of something (ie this forum/community)....so by posting threads it validates their time on this forum...pretty sad really
I think phones like this should come with a rating of some kind like movies do....
agreed with all the above, the phone is by far and away the best I've owned, had a x10i before which was good, arc and arc s didn't inspire me, Galaxy s2 blown me away to the point I don't really want to root/flash unless there is any real advantage to do it.....as asked in another post, looks like it's worth a flash to the latest stock rom which is what I'll do, at least I know I'll get the updates from sammy direct when released without having to wait for 02
Darkside i love that rating comment but what i love even more is your signature. That comment is pure gold.
kp it is definitely worth flashing an up to date stock rom without a doubt. Carrier updates are a joke for all devices.
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Darkside i love that rating comment but what i love even more is your signature. That comment is pure gold.
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Hehe, its a good 'un aint it!!
as soon as i read it i had to have it in my sig...
Sorry for the OT....
The way I see it there are 3 groups of people
1 - Those who have a faulty handset myself being 1 of them with WiFi issues, poor battery, low volume to name but a few.
2 - Those who don't have a faulty handset
3 - The fanboys who even if it was faulty they would never admit it.
Well those in group 1 need to return and get a replacement or a different phone. Those in group 3 need to wake up.
And let me add,
4. Those who really aren't that bright or lead a very pessimistic life
Is this a "Brit" only forum?
Just kidding, You guys are on target. The phone stock is GREAT and if you have a bug or two, well rooting and a few choice apps can make your phone even more awsum. Just taking the time to say that my Epic touch is GREAT!!!!
---Live long and prosper---
The SGSII is my first smartphone and obviously my first android phone too. I'm loving it and I don't have any issue to moan about (so far).
Great sig Darkside
I love my SGSII, that is all.
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i remember reading threads 10 - 15 days after the sgs2 was released
these were the issues back then
1.battery life sucks HALP
2.yellow color on the left side omg
3.i see pink color when i take a picture
4.my phones is SOOOO HOT
now its
1.which rom is best
2.HALP i flashed this "i9000 darkyrom" now its not working
3.MY PHONE NO GO DEEP SLEEP :O
4.ETA ?
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Well those in group 1 need to return and get a replacement or a different phone. Those in group 3 need to wake up.
And let me add,
4. Those who really aren't that bright or lead a very pessimistic life
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Pessimism is AWESOME!!! A pessimist is never disappointed!
The only reason I was starting to hate this phone was because I had to turn it in two times before I got one without a faulty display. It took almost a month.
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Agree - I love this phone and the android community, but there are quite a few whining idiots around.
That said, we're still wayyyyyyyyyy better off than the iPhone 4S crowd. Lots of morons complaining there, and worse, they can't even do anything about it. iOS doesn't allow half the tweaks and hacks Android lets us do, especially if not jailbroken
... and before I continue I know that the overwhelming consensus is WE WANT ICS! I'm not trying to convince anyone that you shouldn't want it or that it's not gonna be the shiznit. I actually hope it will be great, and for all you Android old timers, congrats.... but...
Maybe its b/c I am fairly new to both Android and Gingerbread. Having grown tired of the jailbreak cycle of the iPhone, I switched (reluctantly b/c Google == Skynet) to the Skyrocket late last year. Rooting, kernels, and custom ROMs were all new to me. Heck, the screen size was new. But, I am glad I switched. Now that I have the GNote exactly how I want it with a whole slew of custom things (OC kernel, V6, 14 toggles, etc) I can't help but be apathetic to ICS... it's gonna take me back to square one.
ICS may make my apps start FC'ing, Samsung's implementation of ICS on the GNote may be buggy, etc. My GNote is faster than stock, no FCs, and all my apps work. ICS is gonna mess all that up (IMO), just like new releases of iOS on my jailbroken 3GS. There was always something that would never work again even after I re-JB it and reinstalled all my JB apps. So after awhile I just stopped updating my 3GS.
I'm positive ICS is gonna be great, but I'm probably still gonna slap the same 3rd party home screen launcher on it and try my best to get things back to the way they used to be... so what's the rush?
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BlackZenith said:
... and before I continue I know that the overwhelming consensus is WE WANT ICS! I'm not trying to convince anyone that you shouldn't want it or that it's not gonna be the shiznit. I actually hope it will be great, and for all you Android old timers, congrats.... but...
Maybe its b/c I am fairly new to both Android and Gingerbread. Having grown tired of the jailbreak cycle of the iPhone, I switched (reluctantly b/c Google == Skynet) to the Skyrocket late last year. Rooting, kernels, and custom ROMs were all new to me. Heck, the screen size was new. But, I am glad I switched. Now that I have the GNote exactly how I want it with a whole slew of custom things (OC kernel, V6, 14 toggles, etc) I can't help but be apathetic to ICS... it's gonna take me back to sqauare one.
ICS may make my apps start FC'ing, Samsung's implementation of ICS on the GNote may be buggy, etc. My GNote is faster than stock, no FCs, and all my apps work. ICS is gonna mess all that up (IMO), just like new releases of iOS on my jailbroken 3GS. There was always something that would never work again even after I re-JB it and reinstalled all my JB apps. So after awhile I just stopped updating my 3GS.
I'm positive ICS is gonna be great, but I'm probably still gonna slap the same 3rd party home screen launcher on it and try my best to get things back to the way they used to be... so what's the rush?
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IMHO, you are on the right thought path here, which I say only from some past experience with ICS. <-- I realize this is a totally subjective statement, but you have to understand that ICS essentially turned my dying Captivate into a very nimble little device, so if anyone should be singing the praises of ICS, you'd think I would, but not so much...
The user experience is nice, fluid and definitely different from GB, but it does not turn GB on its head from any perspective or by any means.
I do like the different alternative launchers (Trebuchet to a degree and Nova for sure) and I also like the clean look of ICS as well as that it ran smoother and with fewer hiccups on my old Captivate than the damn stock firmware had. lol
However, I think a lot of the core functionality that I liked of ICS came from the Cyanogen underlayment (in other words, all the custom tweaks such as status bar, notification widgets, etc.) but a lot if not all of the same custom tweeks I'm sure will be available in any developed ROM for the Note, whether GB or ICS. Matter of fact, we're already seeing a lot of this in the couple of ROMs that are out there (Saurom, etc.)
At this point, I'm more curious and interested to see what JellyBean (5.0) has in store, and am anxious for Q4 to roll around which I believe is when it's tentatively scheduled for release.
-Ryan
BlackZenith said:
... and before I continue I know that the overwhelming consensus is WE WANT ICS! I'm not trying to convince anyone that you shouldn't want it or that it's not gonna be the shiznit. I actually hope it will be great, and for all you Android old timers, congrats.... but...
Maybe its b/c I am fairly new to both Android and Gingerbread. Having grown tired of the jailbreak cycle of the iPhone, I switched (reluctantly b/c Google == Skynet) to the Skyrocket late last year. Rooting, kernels, and custom ROMs were all new to me. Heck, the screen size was new. But, I am glad I switched. Now that I have the GNote exactly how I want it with a whole slew of custom things (OC kernel, V6, 14 toggles, etc) I can't help but be apathetic to ICS... it's gonna take me back to sqauare one.
ICS may make my apps start FC'ing, Samsung's implementation of ICS on the GNote may be buggy, etc. My GNote is faster than stock, no FCs, and all my apps work. ICS is gonna mess all that up (IMO), just like new releases of iOS on my jailbroken 3GS. There was always something that would never work again even after I re-JB it and reinstalled all my JB apps. So after awhile I just stopped updating my 3GS.
I'm positive ICS is gonna be great, but I'm probably still gonna slap the same 3rd party home screen launcher on it and try my best to get things back to the way they used to be... so what's the rush?
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Yeah, that's not the case. Root is already out for the GSII ICS build. There's no reason to not demand ICS as soon as possible, it really is better in every way, and it's ridiculous that the US Note didn't come with it.
and it's ridiculous that the US Note didn't come with it.[/QUOTE said:
Although i stand by my earlier statement, I do agree with this...
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Gingerbread was juste not made for those 720p screen, believe me, I come from a GNexus and ICS is going to be alot better for the note than GingerBread, ICS is alot more fluidband more interactive too.
Returning to Gingerbread when I got ICS since day one (I also had a Nexus S ) is a pain.
BlackZenith said:
I'm not trying to convince anyone that you shouldn't want it or that it's not gonna be the shiznit. I actually hope it will be great, and for all you Android old timers, congrats....
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Many of us are coming from devices that had ICS, so we know what we’re waiting for and that we like it.
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(reluctantly b/c Google == Skynet)
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You’re right, they should be more like apple and charge you for having their nose in all your data and activity (BTW, everything you whisper to siri goes straight to apple servers for translation, same for all major voice recognition software)
BlackZenith said:
Rooting, kernels, and custom ROMs were all new to me. Heck, the screen size was new. But, I am glad I switched. Now that I have the GNote exactly how I want it with a whole slew of custom things (OC kernel, V6, 14 toggles, etc) I can't help but be apathetic to ICS... it's gonna take me back to sqauare one.
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If you don’t like going back to square one, why in the world are you messing with customizing your phone? It’s a fact of life, that’s why the android fairey invented Titanium Backup and external SD cards!
BlackZenith said:
ICS may make my apps start FC'ing, Samsung's implementation of ICS on the GNote may be buggy, etc.
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Yea, the phone could have been buggy when you bought it (some peoples were actually) and any ROM you load could be buggy, any mod you make could make it buggy, flashing kernals and radios and ROMS can brick your phone, this is ok but a factory OS update scares you?
BlackZenith said:
My GNote is faster than stock, no FCs, and all my apps work. ICS is gonna mess all that up (IMO)
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Not trying to nit-pick here, but how can you predict the future as an opinion? And even better, follow it up with...
BlackZenith said:
I'm positive ICS is gonna be great,
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BlackZenith said:
but I'm probably still gonna slap the same 3rd party home screen launcher on it and try my best to get things back to the way they used to be... so what's the rush?
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Then when the update is out, don’t update it. Rooting generally breaks the update anyways, so you should be good if you’ve already done so. If not, then simply flash back to stock. Eazy Peazy.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m really not harping on you. Your post is a rarity here in that it speaks of ICS and not belly aching about what you were told and that you demand it and then all the international owners chime in and say “BUT BUT BUT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT OURS NOT YOURS…cause cause cause ours is ba-ba-better!!!!”. I’m just trying to share my take on this after I peeled my palm from my forehead as there is a lot of conflicting opinions in your post. Going from one OS to the next is the lifecycle of android. I remember getting 1.5 (cupcake, first named release), it took me by surprise, I thought “a phone that’s getting a major face life? Cool” and the addiction was all down hill from there. Each iteration represents all new cool things to discover, reasons why I lay down in bed at 10, but don’t put my phone down till 1230 then drag myself out of bed at 430 the next morning cursing my ADD mentality in relation to tech. It’s just the way it is for a lot of us.
Chief Geek said:
You’re right, they should be more like apple and charge you for having their nose in all your data and activity (BTW, everything you whisper to siri goes straight to apple servers for translation, same for all major voice recognition software)
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Good grief, my reference to Skynet was a joke. If I truly believed that I would have never bought a Android phone. Besides, even in the Driod Bionic commericials they say the it's the first phone to be "self aware". And who said anything about Apple or Siri being apart of the human resistance against the machines?
Chief Geek said:
If you don’t like going back to square one, why in the world are you messing with customizing your phone? It’s a fact of life, that’s why the android fairey invented Titanium Backup and external SD cards!
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And how are my statements "conflicting"? You ask why would I customize my phone (i.e. anything non stock) if I am worried about going back to square one? Your statement is conflicting when in the same sentence you speak of using TB. How in the world can I use TB if I am stock??? If anything the only way I can keep from updating my phone is by being non-stock before AT&T attempts to push an update to my phone.
Chief Geek said:
Yea, the phone could have been buggy when you bought it (some peoples were actually) and any ROM you load could be buggy, any mod you make could make it buggy, flashing kernals and radios and ROMS can brick your phone, this is ok but a factory OS update scares you?
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Yes a factory update "scares" me (lol good one) only b/c my custom setup is working great... better than it did factory.
Chief Geek said:
Not trying to nit-pick here, but how can you predict the future as an opinion? And even better, follow it up with...
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You are nit-piking lol. You've dissected my ENTIRE post smh. I will answer your question with a question: "How can I predict the future as a fact!?" I only say "IMO" b/c I have not used ICS. I can predict the future based off the past. Android is known for being "buggy" with a fragmented ecosystem and marketplace. As far as I am concerned Gingerbread is a mature OS compared to ICS.
Chief Geek said:
Then when the update is out, don’t update it. Rooting generally breaks the update anyways, so you should be good if you’ve already done so. If not, then simply flash back to stock. Eazy Peazy.
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How about I do you one better. I have frozen the "Device Management" app on my phone. The day you guys stop complaining about ICS problems (Stock/Custom) is the day I will unfreeze it...
Chief Geek said:
Don’t get me wrong, I’m really not harping on you. Your post is a rarity here in that it speaks of ICS and not belly aching about what you were told and that you demand it and then all the international owners chime in and say “BUT BUT BUT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT OURS NOT YOURS…cause cause cause ours is ba-ba-better!!!!”. I’m just trying to share my take on this after I peeled my palm from my forehead as there is a lot of conflicting opinions in your post. Going from one OS to the next is the lifecycle of android. I remember getting 1.5 (cupcake, first named release), it took me by surprise, I thought “a phone that’s getting a major face life? Cool” and the addiction was all down hill from there. Each iteration represents all new cool things to discover, reasons why I lay down in bed at 10, but don’t put my phone down till 1230 then drag myself out of bed at 430 the next morning cursing my ADD mentality in relation to tech. It’s just the way it is for a lot of us.
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*Sighs* Even after all that you have given me no tangible features ICS has over GB. You sir need to put your phone down and get some sleep.
Wonder if a metal battery door would serve as a tin foil hat for your note just incase the ics invasion does happen.
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mark1s said:
Gingerbread was juste not made for those 720p screen, believe me, I come from a GNexus and ICS is going to be alot better for the note than GingerBread, ICS is alot more fluidband more interactive too.
Returning to Gingerbread when I got ICS since day one (I also had a Nexus S ) is a pain.
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Totally agree, gingerbread absolutely blows after having a factory ICS device.
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Wonder if a metal battery door would serve as a tin foil hat for your note just incase the ics invasion does happen.
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Haha that was funny. This may be extremely farfetched, but i wonder if we could port ICS off of the vivid. It may be possible... Same processor and all. Rest will be different though.
Lol but why does it blow. ... Im kinda with OP but dont mind setting phone up 3 times a day but still the point stands what is so much better with ICS i just here "it just is" come on now we are all android fans and that is the arguement iphone fans try and use that we tease about lol. So lets get some real life experience to really say what makes it head over heals better .
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u921333 said:
Lol but why does it blow. ... Im kinda with OP but dont mind setting phone up 3 times a day but still the point stands what is so much better with ICS i just here "it just is" come on now we are all android fans and that is the arguement iphone fans try and use that we tease about lol. So lets get some real life experience to really say what makes it head over heals better .
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Ok, i guess I'll bite.
First, and foremost, it is far faster and smoother. You can interpret this as being more efficient depending on your definition. When ICS ROMs began maturing into daily drivers, it knocked the dust loose off of alot of our phones. My Vibrant, a first gen Galaxy S device, was given a great breath of life when it first saw the light of ICS. This alone is worth wanting ICS. My Vibrant became snappier and all together a pleasant experience again.
Second, it takes alot of the features that were in Honey Comb (a tablet only OS) and rolled them into a handset OS. This includes a bunch of small features that include things like Roboto Font and improvements in cameras and radios.
As iterations go by, you will notice alot of "add on" features become stock components of the OS. This is by no means exclusive to android, all OSs of all platforms do it. Its giving the customer what they want. Things like Screen shot and voice commands have long been missing and were added ala cart via the market and some specialty oem features (like us using the S-Pen to take screen grabs). So more and more of these are rolled into the OS to make it a smoother overall experience.
Next lets talk about NFC. It is, in my opinion, under utilized piece of technology that has been ignored for too long due to peoples fears of their data being stolen (while leaving other far more susceptible techs wide open like BT). ICS brings NFC to the table so those who have paid to have it in their device (hello note users) have the option of playing with it and even using it if in an area where this is possible.
Past the above, there are other refinements such as the cut and and paste being much easier, menus being easier to navigate, and an overall better experience. There really is nothing ground breaking like when multi touch entered the scene and other great new advances. ICS offers us a much more fluid OS to dive into. Yes it may be buggy when we first start playing with it. The experienced among us already know why, it's because we'll likely be running custom ROMs far before it's officially released or atleast before it gets pushed out to the masses. It won't be earth shattering, but it will be awesome to get alot of the cool features on a great device. It'll be different things to different people. Some may not even notice it other then it's bluer then normal.
Oh yea, and it's much purdier...
I think you mean drooling.
californiarailroader said:
I think you mean drooling.
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or trolling
This has my vote for the "thread of the week"!
I love it when phone geeks go back and forth......cause I find out things I never knew about...and everyone makes good points so we are all winners!
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Chief Geek said:
Ok, i guess I'll bite.
First, and foremost, it is far faster and smoother. You can interpret this as being more efficient depending on your definition. When ICS ROMs began maturing into daily drivers, it knocked the dust loose off of alot of our phones. My Vibrant, a first gen Galaxy S device, was given a great breath of life when it first saw the light of ICS. This alone is worth wanting ICS. My Vibrant became snappier and all together a pleasant experience again.
Second, it takes alot of the features that were in Honey Comb (a tablet only OS) and rolled them into a handset OS. This includes a bunch of small features that include things like Roboto Font and improvements in cameras and radios.
As iterations go by, you will notice alot of "add on" features become stock components of the OS. This is by no means exclusive to android, all OSs of all platforms do it. Its giving the customer what they want. Things like Screen shot and voice commands have long been missing and were added ala cart via the market and some specialty oem features (like us using the S-Pen to take screen grabs). So more and more of these are rolled into the OS to make it a smoother overall experience.
Next lets talk about NFC. It is, in my opinion, under utilized piece of technology that has been ignored for too long due to peoples fears of their data being stolen (while leaving other far more susceptible techs wide open like BT). ICS brings NFC to the table so those who have paid to have it in their device (hello note users) have the option of playing with it and even using it if in an area where this is possible.
Past the above, there are other refinements such as the cut and and paste being much easier, menus being easier to navigate, and an overall better experience. There really is nothing ground breaking like when multi touch entered the scene and other great new advances. ICS offers us a much more fluid OS to dive into. Yes it may be buggy when we first start playing with it. The experienced among us already know why, it's because we'll likely be running custom ROMs far before it's officially released or atleast before it gets pushed out to the masses. It won't be earth shattering, but it will be awesome to get alot of the cool features on a great device. It'll be different things to different people. Some may not even notice it other then it's bluer then normal.
Oh yea, and it's much purdier...
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Thank you .... that helps a lot better for someone who hasnt personally used ICS. Better then the "its just better" responses I heard.
Next Question I have is I know comparing Stock Gingerbread to Stock ICS the more Fluid response stands out from what I hear but what about Custom Rom Gingerbread to Stock ICS would we really get a smoother feel. I know that this all an opinion but man I am on the DAg's custom and I cant picture it getting much smoother.
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Thank you .... that helps a lot better for someone who hasnt personally used ICS. Better then the "its just better" responses I heard.
Next Question I have is I know comparing Stock Gingerbread to Stock ICS the more Fluid response stands out from what I hear but what about Custom Rom Gingerbread to Stock ICS would we really get a smoother feel. I know that this all an opinion but man I am on the DAg's custom and I cant picture it getting much smoother.
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The reason most people say "its just better" is because they dont realize all the little things done to make it better, they just realize the over all effect of being better. Perfect example is the new Roboto font, people dont realize its a new font, they just have an easier time reading.
As for my experience a mature custom rom is always better then a factory rom. They are slimmed down with little to no bloat and have been tailored to work better. But with all that said, you can't really pick a winner without knowing he contestants. I've used some awesome ROMs and some down right buggy ones, and the same goes for OEM ROMs. That's the great thing about ROMs though, you DL a hand full and start flashing untill you find yourself saying "ohh...now this is niiice"
My only thought from this thread is how much I hate the acronym "SMH".
On topic, coming from my captivate with CM9 Alpha, I personally, am drooling for ICS.
jwood55812 said:
My only thought from this thread is how much I hate the acronym "SMH".
On topic, coming from my captivate with CM9 Alpha, I personally, am drooling for ICS.
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I agree with both of your points, so much.
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Since we all seen a bunch a review threads floating around. I'm going to provide links to some of the current reviews.
AndroidCentral- http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-htc-evo-4g-lte-review
The Verge- http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/11/3012990/htc-evo-4g-lte-review
Phone Arena- http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-EVO-4G-LTE-Review_id3030
Engadget- http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/10/htc-evo-4g-lte-for-sprint-review/
laptopmag http://www.laptopmag.com/review/smartphone/htc_evo_4glte_sprint.aspx
Slashgear- http://www.slashgear.com/htc-evo-4g-lte-review-11227839/
PCWorld- http://www.pcworld.com/article/255517/htc_evo_4g_lte_review_gorgeous_but_no_lte_for_now.html
PhoneDog- http://www.phonedog.com/videos/htc-e...review-part-1/
http://www.phonedog.com/videos/htc-e...review-part-2/
Pocketlint- http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/5870/htc-evo-4g-lte-phone-review
Android Police- http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...view-sometimes-the-ugly-ones-try-the-hardest/
BGR- http://www.bgr.com/2012/05/16/htc-evo-4g-lte-review-sprint-android/
GSMARENA http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_4g_lte-review-762.php
PhoneScoop- http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=10427
Pocketnow- http://pocketnow.com/2012/05/22/sprint-htc-evo-4g-lte-review/
TechRadar- http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-evo-4g-lte-1081371/review
GoodandEvo- http://www.goodandevo.net/2012/05/review-htc-evo-4g-lte-for-sprint.html#more
I'll add androidcentral and anandtech if and when they release it.
After reading some of these reviews I think I just need to wait until Anandtech's. Engadget's review was pitiful.
NICE! Glad to see someone do this!
might just Stick this up there temp for the time being and funnel all others in here if they pop up for a month or so till the review craze is over...
Just have to keep the OP updated is all.
Here is a link to Android Police's Review - > http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...view-sometimes-the-ugly-ones-try-the-hardest/
Gotta love reviews and the fact that they really are just opinions of the person reviewing it. It's an interesting read nonetheless. Couple of things I take out of it;
1. Just like everyone else including most of us, we all liked the look of the One X and he really hates that Sprint and HTC deviated from that. Especially the top plastic cover. Personally spends too much time complaining about the design decisions.
2. He also really likes stock Android and hates Sense. Again shares some of the common complaints such as the recent apps menu being different than stock and the software menu button. Also interestingly complains about bloatware but realistically there is only one app that should be considered bloatware and thats Sprint Zone. Every other app he mentions comes stock on every other HTC phone. And lets face it every carrier uses their own visual voicemail and hotspot apps, the latter being to have control over tethering. Also call me crazy but he complains about Sense not being landscape but I have landscape Sense running a 4.0 rom and I'm pretty sure that was one of the added features to 4.0.
Either way everything is subjective and it makes for an interesting read as long as you objectively respect he is entitled to his opinion and it is in fact that his opinion. For me it flirts close to the line of knitpicking each and everything that goes against what the reviewer prefers and is accustomed to.
Cordy said:
Here is a link to Android Police's Review - > http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...view-sometimes-the-ugly-ones-try-the-hardest/
Gotta love reviews and the fact that they really are just opinions of the person reviewing it. It's an interesting read nonetheless. Couple of things I take out of it;
1. Just like everyone else including most of us, we all liked the look of the One X and he really hates that Sprint and HTC deviated from that. Especially the top plastic cover. Personally spends too much time complaining about the design decisions.
2. He also really likes stock Android and hates Sense. Again shares some of the common complaints such as the recent apps menu being different than stock and the software menu button. Also interestingly complains about bloatware but realistically there is only one app that should be considered bloatware and thats Sprint Zone. Every other app he mentions comes stock on every other HTC phone. And lets face it every carrier uses their own visual voicemail and hotspot apps, the latter being to have control over tethering.
Either way everything is subjective and it makes for an interesting read as long as you objectively respect he is entitled to his opinion and it is in fact that his opinion. For me it flirts close to the line of knitpicking each and everything that goes against what the reviewer prefers and is accustomed to.
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Thanks man added the link to the op. Which would spark a very noob question. What does OP stand for?
Most the reviews I seen thought sense was either ok or just terrible. Phil from androidcentral seem to be one of the few that actually liked it over stock android. Me personally I haven't use sense 4 yet but I'm impatiently waiting.
I'll try to keep the OP is up to date as I can which shouldn't be hard considering I'm graduating High School Friday. So I have nothing but time until August.
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Thanks man added the link to the op. Which would spark a very noob question. What does OP stand for?
Most the reviews I seen thought sense was either ok or just terrible. Phil from androidcentral seem to be one of the few that actually liked it over stock android. Me personally I haven't use sense 4 yet but I'm impatiently waiting.
I'll try to keep the OP is up to date as I can which shouldn't be hard considering I'm graduating High School Friday. So I have nothing but time until August.
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OP stands for Original Post(er).
Yeah most reviewers dislike Sense compared to Stock however even the most anti Sense reviewers have stated that Sense 4 is a lot better than previous iterations and end up enjoying it even if they aren't crazy about it. I know we all have our personal preferences but facts are the only true Stock phone is a Nexus phone. Every manufacturer puts a skin on their phone. It's just something people will need to accept. So depending on which skin you like the most you should choose your phone accordingly. If you like stock buy a Nexus. It's easy for these reviewers to complain though cause they get these phones handed to them rather than going out and buying them in most cases.
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Added BGR and Pocketlint for the hell of it.
Pocketlint really didnt review much.
Cordy said:
Here is a link to Android Police's Review - > http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...view-sometimes-the-ugly-ones-try-the-hardest/
Gotta love reviews and the fact that they really are just opinions of the person reviewing it. It's an interesting read nonetheless. Couple of things I take out of it;
1. Just like everyone else including most of us, we all liked the look of the One X and he really hates that Sprint and HTC deviated from that. Especially the top plastic cover. Personally spends too much time complaining about the design decisions.
2. He also really likes stock Android and hates Sense. Again shares some of the common complaints such as the recent apps menu being different than stock and the software menu button. Also interestingly complains about bloatware but realistically there is only one app that should be considered bloatware and thats Sprint Zone. Every other app he mentions comes stock on every other HTC phone. And lets face it every carrier uses their own visual voicemail and hotspot apps, the latter being to have control over tethering. Also call me crazy but he complains about Sense not being landscape but I have landscape Sense running a 4.0 rom and I'm pretty sure that was one of the added features to 4.0.
Either way everything is subjective and it makes for an interesting read as long as you objectively respect he is entitled to his opinion and it is in fact that his opinion. For me it flirts close to the line of knitpicking each and everything that goes against what the reviewer prefers and is accustomed to.
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Well All I can say from my memory about that review is that who the F is going to be watching the back cover, Most people don't go around showing their phones from the back. His biggest gripe about the back is moot since the phone will probably be in a case, or mainly viewed from the "FRONT". ROFL what a joke review.
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Well All I can say from my memory about that review is that who the F is going to be watching the back cover, Most people don't go around showing their phones from the back. His biggest gripe about the back is moot since the phone will probably be in a case, or mainly viewed from the "FRONT". ROFL what a joke review.
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That's true but some people have different needs than others so if his is having a fashionable phone then you got to respect that
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GSM arena's review is out:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_4g_lte-review-762.php
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A review that actually doesn't hold the EVO 4G LTE at fault for the shortcomings of the Sprint network.
The HTC Evo 4G LTE is undoubtedly the best-spec'd smartphone currently on offer in the United States. The flagship handset offers all the latest smartphone tech in a neat, well-built package.
There has rarely been an easier smartphone to recommend in the United States. HTC and Sprint have created a package that's incredibly hard to resist, and the purchase of which you are extremely unlikely to regret. We actually feel sorry that HTC didn't choose this design for the internationally available One XL, instead of the AT&T version.
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sinfiery said:
GSM arena's review is out:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_4g_lte-review-762.php
A review that actually doesn't hold the EVO 4G LTE at fault for the shortcomings of the Sprint network.
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It was a nice detailed review.
That is the biggest knock on the evo in the reviews that it didn't have a 4g network.
You can't fault the HTC for that. Now customs need to stop bullshiting and let it be release.
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Nice review, but they call the phone a One X at least twice that I saw, haha. Can't wait to see how great the battery life really is!
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There's a pretty in depth review on phonescoop too.
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=10427
I'm bothered by the comments under the sound section. Sure I use the phone for data, but i use it just as much for calls (using the ear piece). Will have to wait for some demo phones at stores before truly committing to the purchase.
gpz1100 said:
There's a pretty in depth review on phonescoop too.
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=10427
I'm bothered by the comments under the sound section. Sure I use the phone for data, but i use it just as much for calls (using the ear piece). Will have to wait for some demo phones at stores before truly committing to the purchase.
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Thanks bro added to the op
Most reviewers have said the sound was good enough for calls. Nothing spectacular but good nonetheless
I played with a GN at a sprint store the other day. Thought the volume was very loud and clear on a call to 611. Phonescoop's review of that phone also finds the sound quality lacking. I will definitely have to test the thing out before trading in my old evo. I expect the sound quality to be at least as loud/clear (running cm7 with the audio boosted kernel).
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I played with a GN at a sprint store the other day. Thought the volume was very loud and clear on a call to 611. Phonescoop's review of that phone also finds the sound quality lacking. I will definitely have to test the thing out before trading in my old evo. I expect the sound quality to be at least as loud/clear (running cm7 with the audio boosted kernel).
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I think some people are to big of audiofiles and want perfect sound out of a cellphone lol as long as its loud n doesn't sound like a half blown speaker or something I'm happy lol want better sound get a BT
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Some of the reviewers that bash Sprint seem to be biased against Sprint. The phone should be evaluated not the network that it arrives on. Yes, a note should be made about network performance, but if the phone is a 10 dock .5-1.0 for that issue instead of going off in tangents about it just list it as a con!
IMHO the nay sayer's for Sprint will be jumping ship to come aboard when NV starts to launch on Sprint by months end.
It's amazing how these professional reviewers try so hard to find fault with android phones, yet fall over themselves praising the iPhone.
This is the phone they should have released globally.
Pocketnow and Techradar review is up.
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Some of the reviewers that bash Sprint seem to be biased against Sprint. The phone should be evaluated not the network that it arrives on. Yes, a note should be made about network performance, but if the phone is a 10 dock .5-1.0 for that issue instead of going off in tangents about it just list it as a con!
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I find this to be an extremely accurate statement.
When I see a review for a phone all I care about is the phone, not the network the phone is on. I'm aware of the networks of each carrier and I am aware of the pros/cons of each.
For what it's worth I spend a majority of the time on Wi-Fi networks and get great network reliability.
I have in my possession two (2) 64gb HTC Ones, and both of them are plagued with various issues. From poor battery life that is not consistent with what's being reported here, to random reboots, to build issues. For a "gapless" device, there sure are an awful lot of gaps all over both of these things. On both devices, there is quite literally a defect on every single piece that makes up the body of the device. HTC designs the best looking devices hands down, but when I look back at every HTC device I have had, they've all had build quality issues. My Hero, Evo 4G, Evo 3D, One X, and now the One- all had blatant build problems. HTC really needs to get their act together. That said, I still love the One, I think it is hands down the best phone ever made (save for my old trusty Panasonic Duramax), it just has too many issues right now. So, I am returning both of the Ones that I have (that I paid full price for, mind you) with hopes that when the black model becomes readily available, those build issues will have been corrected. Some of you here know (*cough*Gunnyman) that I am kinda anal about my phones (went through 5 or 6 One Xs) and I just can't justify spending $700 on a device that isn't perfect. I have way too much money tied up in these phones ($1400 for cell phones, whaaaat) for me to settle on one that is less than perfect. For what its worth, if my first One had good battery life and didn't freeze and reboot on me I probably would have kept it, build issues notwithstanding. The second one I got doesn't reboot, but has terrible gaps and edges so that's a no go for me. I am absolutely dreading going back to my iPhone 5 but it must be done. For now. I am without a doubt going to be trying this again with the black model.
Anyways, that's my rant. Ta-ta. Flame away.
Garrrr. I was hoping you'd start chiming in on different cases for the one similar to your time with the one x. I'm having a hard time deciding lmao.
See you back soon.
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I have in my possession two (2) 64gb HTC Ones, and both of them are plagued with various issues. From poor battery life that is not consistent with what's being reported here, to random reboots, to build issues. For a "gapless" device, there sure are an awful lot of gaps all over both of these things. On both devices, there is quite literally a defect on every single piece that makes up the body of the device. HTC designs the best looking devices hands down, but when I look back at every HTC device I have had, they've all had build quality issues. My Hero, Evo 4G, Evo 3D, One X, and now the One- all had blatant build problems. HTC really needs to get their act together. That said, I still love the One, I think it is hands down the best phone ever made (save for my old trusty Panasonic Duramax), it just has too many issues right now. So, I am returning both of the Ones that I have (that I paid full price for, mind you) with hopes that when the black model becomes readily available, those build issues will have been corrected. Some of you here know (*cough*Gunnyman) that I am kinda anal about my phones (went through 5 or 6 One Xs) and I just can't justify spending $700 on a device that isn't perfect. I have way too much money tied up in these phones ($1400 for cell phones, whaaaat) for me to settle on one that is less than perfect. For what its worth, if my first One had good battery life and didn't freeze and reboot on me I probably would have kept it, build issues notwithstanding. The second one I got doesn't reboot, but has terrible gaps and edges so that's a no go for me. I am absolutely dreading going back to my iPhone 5 but it must be done. For now. I am without a doubt going to be trying this again with the black model.
Anyways, that's my rant. Ta-ta. Flame away.
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If you SERIOUSLY think you are ever going to get any device without any issue you're very very far-off from reality. Every phone has one defect or another, yes even the iPhone 5 has issues. Pretty serious ones too.
Well, in an effort to solidify my decision I went to best buy and played with the black sprint one..... and I like the silver better. Not to mention that I really, really, REALLY can't stand the iPhone and LOVE the One. So call me fickle, but I have now decided on keeping the replacement that I got haha. I now, I'm pathetic. So the good news is I AM sticking with the one. So yeah, this rant was for nought. I do believe that HTC needs to get their crap together though. I'll probably make another warranty claim in a month or so lol. As far as getting a phone with zero defects is concerned- they are out there. I just need to hunt them down. My last One X (out of the 5 I had) was damn near perfect. I love that thing. If they came out with a One X Super+ with all the internals of the One, I would buy it in a heartbeat. I think that is the best designed android phone to date, even besting the One.
@WTFunk- I'll try to start doing case reviews but my new job has me ridiculously busy so it probably won't be the same like it was on the One X. I still have 20+ cases for that thing that I need to get rid of lol. Right now for the One I have the Diztronic TPU case (it's decent but I don't like it as much as the one they made for the One X), the Incipio Dual Pro (holy hell is it massive! That will NEVER be my main case), the Poetic (it's cool and good quality, but not for me), the Poetic Palette Slim (nice quality but feels like half a case) and I have a Poetic Atmosphere on the way. Rest assured, I'll be ordering a TON more
That's good to hear.
I've gone through 3 one x myself due to defects. Still prefer sense and HTC's physical designs to any other brand on the market.
I'm banking on the htc one in black to be newer batches with less defects than the silver but we shall see.
Someone sounds obsessed with phones and OCD with them. I got the one first day it came out, no imperfections on mine. I think your imagining them.
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OCD is a real disorder. I hate how much this term gets tossed around. It's no less rude than saying gay or retarded. Just sayin.
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Someone sounds obsessed with phones and OCD with them. I got the one first day it came out, no imperfections on mine. I think your imagining them.
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No.
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OCD is a real disorder. I hate how much this term gets tossed around. It's no less rude than saying gay or retarded. Just sayin.
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Can't compare OCD to being gay or mentally challenged for one. You people with ocd can be married and don't get constantly harassed. And second you don't have a slang demeaning word like "retarded" nice try but OCD will never be on the same level as any of those words.. carry on..
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Can't compare OCD to being gay or mentally challenged for one. You people with ocd can be married and don't get constantly harassed. And second you don't have a slang demeaning word like "retarded" nice try but OCD will never be on the same level as any of those words.. carry on..
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OCD is a mental challenge. My mother has it. It isn't fun.
I don't have OCD myself, so watch the You People thing.
Carry on.
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I was looking for that meme!
My google-fu is strong!
It always is with you people
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OCD is a mental challenge. My mother has it. It isn't fun.
I don't have OCD myself, so watch the You People thing.
Carry on.
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So your mother is retarded? Also I said you people WITH OCD. So I'm talking about people WITH ocd . So if someone says hey you people who like racecars look here.. should I be offended?? No. Now had I said your kind . Well then we have a different story..
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So your mother is retarded? Also I said you people WITH OCD. So I'm talking about people WITH ocd . So if someone says hey you people who like racecars look here.. should I be offended?? No. Now had I said your kind . Well then we have a different story..
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No my mother isn't mentally retarded,
I'm dropping this now because I've had my fill of talking to a brick wall.
This thread got retarded.
By the time I got to the end if this thread. I had no clue what the OP was about anymore...
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By the time I got to the end if this thread. I had no clue what the OP was about anymore...
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Story of my life.
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By the time I got to the end if this thread. I had no clue what the OP was about anymore...
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This thread is in dire need of a title edit.