I've used ninphetamine 2.1.3+ and it used to drain my battery a fair bit. After having seen another user who said he was experiencing better battery life with ninphetamine 2.0.5. I flashed the older version and it turns out to be indeed better.
My idle drain rate is now 15-17mA using Battery Monitor widget.
So when put in picture. Drain rate is about 2% per hour with minimal usage. (Note 3g data was on)
Anyone else have a better kernel?
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I've tried using SiyahKernel (KI3) and it seems that according to Battery Monitor widget the idle battery drain is 14-15ma. Seems to be much better. However, occasionally the touchscreen freezes and only the touch button works. But then again it could have been because I was using the KI3 kernel on a KH3 rom. Would report back after I finally get off my lazy ass and flash a KI3 rom
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Got off my lazy ass finally. Flashed LeoMar 2.7.1 rom with SiyahKernel 1.7.8. Will report back after a while. Though I must say that for some reasons after the boot animation the phone turns black for quite a long time (1-4 Seconds) before the lockscreen appears. This did not happened with the default LeoMar 2.7.1 kernel. Will report back in 24 Hours.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=92694072&pp=25
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Thanks sherlock. I posted my findings and was asking if anyone else had better. If it the time of the month of you. Stay off this forum.
Personally I find it very difficult to make meaningful comparisons, especially at idle.
Battery Monitor Widget gives estimates and not actual current drain. See this thread for some discussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056486 but basically it's either not in Samsung's battery driver or the app is not reading the information. So you are comparing estimates and the margin for error might be pretty large.
When you flash new kernels you also need to recalibrate the battery. That also affects your battery drain estimates. (I've had Battery Monitor Widget tell me my battery is going up when its unplugged, so go figure.)
Battery life at idle is affected by so many factors. Maybe your signal strength is better one day than another. Or you got more emails or did more syncing. Or one app just happen to glitch and have a very long wakelock. If you get battery drain, you should be checking your partial wakelocks with BetterBatteryStats. Did you get more partial wakelocks when you were running Nin 2.1.3? Is it the kernel's fault or did you just have a misbehaving app?
I like experimenting with different kernels too, so my point is don't expect miracles when somebody says Kernel X gives amazing battery life compared to Kernel Y. Personally I think they are all about the same at idle, and the big differences are in your settings and your usage. If you wipe your phone, don't add any Google or Exchange accounts, and don't sync or download anything, your battery will last 3 or 4 days on idle no matter what kernel you use.
Stock rooted KI3 (cf-root) is the best for battery life for me, i also have constat 3800+ quadrant score (with top of 4109 as my screenshot in leomar 2.7 rom thread).
Also i have the phone a lot, but really a lot less hot while gaming or stressing it.
KI3 stock kernel and SiyahKernel are at the moment the best in battery life. Anything else is running on older sources and drain more.
The best for me is SpeedMod! Smooth and long life battery. There is something you can't do (bootanimation oc uv bln) but simply great!
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best results for me: stock kernel reflashed after rooting, for that stock rom.
Bar none the way to go.
Stock Rooted KI3 does look good, am yet to test it though
Hmm. So seems like you guys are experiencing deliciously good battery life with KI3 kernel. I shall try it and report back with some numbers.
try siyah kernel. one of the fastest growing kernels IMO
For me is Ninphetamine 2.1.3 and now i'm trying SiyahKernel 1.7.7
My question is.. between stock ki3 and SiyahKernel 1.7.7 the difference is really small (barely notice it) or big?
I tend to not flash to much kernels since the very small chance to corrupt the efs folder (even if ofc i have my backup), so if it's only small improvement, i stay on the stock ki3, if it improves a lot, i prolly try it
I've been using the siyah kernel v1.7.7 and I've been experiencing a great battery life. I didn't use the stock kernel for long to make a comparison but I sugest you give siyah at least a try, since you can always go back to stock if you don't like ir.
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batistaRom and ninp 2.0.5 great battery life for me...if you like i can post screenshots if anyone is using setcpu, depending on your kernel try and research in the kernel thread regarding frequencies that other users suggest and adjust yours accordingly...thats what i have done for mine and i could not be any more happier
Alright. I've finally got off my lazy ass and flashed a 2.3.5 rom (LeoMar if you must know) and am currently using siyah 1.7.8. Will report back within 24 hours after I've put the device through a day's use.
cf root KI3 stock kernel on RevolutionRom 2.7.1.
53 hours battery life 3 hours 19mins screen time wifi on 1/3 time, 4g on 2/3 time with facebook sync.
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cf root KI3 stock kernel on RevolutionRom 2.7.1.
53 hours battery life 3 hours 19mins screen time wifi on 1/3 time, 4g on 2/3 time with facebook sync.
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Hi, I posted earlier saying that siyah 1.7.7 gave me good battery life. I tried now the cf root v4.2 KI3 and I had better results. Well, I'm someone that don't play many games, but I surf a lot and download a lot of stuff on wifi. I don't care much for overclocking so I think I'm going to stay wth KI3 cf root. For me they're both great for battery life, and maybe the other ones I have not tried are great also (speedmod, ragemod, ninphetamine...)
I think what happens with kernels, and this happens also with custom ROMs (and everything really, brands, etc..) is there is a lot of fanaticism. People like to choose one ROM and kernel and stick to them. They start to defend the kernels they use convincing themselves they're the best no matter what. That is in my opinion the reason because this kind of discussion turns meaningless. Well not that meaningless, at least it gives an idea of the kernels people are using, at least we know speedmod, ragemod, siyah, nimph, are all great kernels.
I'm not criticizing anyone, in fact, I'm just another example of the people I described.
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I have used ninphos 2.04 and 2.05 and alot of chainfires kernels (kg2 kf2,kg3 and more)
I have noticed alot of diffrence regaring batterylife....between each one...I THINK chainfires gives best battery so far and ninphos 2.04 alot better battery than 2.05 (maybe its the BLN support that uses more battery even if BLN is not used)
So now I want a thread were you recomend the best kernels for batterylife!
So what is the your opinion?
Does a kernel really have something to do with battery life?
The kernel ought to be one of the major 'invisible' factors. It is always active, and has an impact of the timing of everything else that happens on the phone. Particularly if there are bugs which have a detrimental impact on battery, the kernel might expose or hide them. That's not to say that the best kernel will necessarily give best battery life.
I don't think it's BLN if not used.
I did some tests and when the lights are not flashy-flashy the phone enters deepsleep as supposed to and my battery life hasn't gone done noticabely, if you don't use BLN at all there isn't even the BLN service running in the back, so even less to worry about.
Ninphetamin is aimed at performance IIRC, so that could really make a difference, CF-Root is pretty much stock kernel + some initramfs mods, so should give same results as a stock kernel.
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I don't think it's BLN if not used.
I did some tests and when the lights are not flashy-flashy the phone enters deepsleep as supposed to and my battery life hasn't gone done noticabely, if you don't use BLN at all there isn't even the BLN service running in the back, so even less to worry about.
Ninphetamin is aimed at performance IIRC, so that could really make a difference, CF-Root is pretty much stock kernel + some initramfs mods, so should give same results as a stock kernel.
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Maybe you are right, but I experience better battery in 2.04 than 2.05.
Anybody have tried speedmods kernel? Does it have good battery compared to CF-Roots kernel?
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The kernel ought to be one of the major 'invisible' factors. It is always active, and has an impact of the timing of everything else that happens on the phone. Particularly if there are bugs which have a detrimental impact on battery, the kernel might expose or hide them. That's not to say that the best kernel will necessarily give best battery life.
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Imo I think you are correct since the Kernel is the base for everything while Android is running.
Thus, you better flash to a stable/faster kernel in order to achieve better battery performance ?
I really don't have any experience with the Kernels out there, only flashed to Chainfire CF-root, though I would love to hear opinions about ppl that used few different kernels and tell their thoughts about it.
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Imo I think you are correct since the Kernel is the base for everything while Android is running.
Thus, you better flash to a stable/faster kernel in order to achieve better battery performance ?
I really don't have any experience with the Kernels out there, only flashed to Chainfire CF-root, though I would love to hear opinions about ppl that used few different kernels and tell their thoughts about it.
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I wrote a little bit in my OP, but I write again, ninpho is really good, very fast and pretty stable...CF-root I see is better battery and more stable but a little slower...
those two I have tried...anybody that have tried others are welcome especially speedmod kernel as I'm thinking about flashing it
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The kernel ought to be one of the major 'invisible' factors. It is always active, and has an impact of the timing of everything else that happens on the phone. Particularly if there are bugs which have a detrimental impact on battery, the kernel might expose or hide them. That's not to say that the best kernel will necessarily give best battery life.
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Thanks for your reply mister.
I have a question going on in my mind as this is about kernel, well I also was rooted with CF kernel but lately I flashed Ninphetamine 2.0.5 kernel, only to use BLN, and I have root too, now afaIk, I can't have two kernels at a time, so may I know how I have root still when I've flashed with Ninphetmanine kernel and I have both BLN and Root altogether?
Pardon me if it's a stupid and so called 'noob' query but I'd really like to know this.
Regards.
different kernel does different things.But if your phone has already been rooted,I thought root will stay in your system,after your flash N kernel,you can use BLN with root.
That's what I think,maybe is not true
I've tried several kernel. one of my favorite is ninpo 2.0.5. battery life look good and it run faster.. angelom kernel also good but i've got issues on angelom 16 and 18.. phone run hot when using WiFi.. but angelom give me the best battery life when it come to idle.. but drain fast when i'm surfing..
will try speedMod kernel.. could some one give me some review on this kernel?
Thanks in advanced..
Hi, I am a noob so please help us out?
Flashed my SGS2 (first time android phone)with CF Kernal KG1 to get root, and bloatfreezer to freeze Samsung and Optus crap as per lists on XDA. Rather than getting better battery life I have noticed a quick drain on the battery. Namely Android OS which uses about 50% overnight.
Is this normal? what can be done?
I dont see much of a difference between CF-Root kernel, speedmod, and ninpethaine 2.0.2 - 2.0.5. Except speedmod doesnt allow CPU monitoring, overclocking and undervolting.
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I did try speed mod and honestly, I feel ninpo give better life than speedmod. Well it could just be me but I just tested it at average usage...So, yeah...
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Hi, I am a noob so please help us out?
Flashed my SGS2 (first time android phone)with CF Kernal KG1 to get root, and bloatfreezer to freeze Samsung and Optus crap as per lists on XDA. Rather than getting better battery life I have noticed a quick drain on the battery. Namely Android OS which uses about 50% overnight.
Is this normal? what can be done?
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Well honestly, if I remember clearly, there is an OS bug currently. However, why don't you try on other such as KG6 or KG3?
Also, did you install anything middle of the way? Could be an app or something?
how do i install ninphetamine 2.0.5 on Litening Rom 5.0 ?
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how do i install ninphetamine 2.0.5 on Litening Rom 5.0 ?
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Via Odin I think. Select the .tar under PDA.
hi just wanted to ask if there is a ROM there that is as close as the original ROM of the samsung galaxy s II in terms of apps and looks but is tweaked for better battery perfomance?
cause my dad bought a SGSII almost a week now, and we only get about 5-6 hrs of it using only it. already did about 4 charge cycles. (4 only cause most of the time the GSII is off, my dad's getting a hang it yet)
config:
- stock android 2.3.3
- 3g auto
- auto backlight (but we are inside a mall so the backlight is isn't that bright & have strong signal)
- auto sync is off
- background data is on
- haptic feedback is off
- audible selection is off
- fast dormancy is off
- power saving mode is on
- juice defender app in balanced setting
apps running:
-skype
-messenger
it drains a LOT even in standby a lot more when using it (browsing, not yet chatting). my hd2 is much more efficient knowing it is not a native android smartphone...
is there a tweaked battery efficient rom there that is as close or at least still looks as the stock?
You can do three things,
1- Install Better Battery Stats and see under 'Partial Wakelocks' to see whats running on background.
2- Stay on Stock ROM and flash a kernel which allows Voltage tweaks and install SetCPU and Undervolt CPU. Ninphetamine 2.1.3 is such a kernel.
3- If thats too complicated for you, then flash an Undervolted kernel, like SpeedMod.
I won't advise you to change to a Custom ROM for battery backup betterment. But doing the above processes will certainly save some.
Regards.
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You can do three things,
1- Install Better Battery Stats and see under 'Partial Wakelocks' to see whats running on background.
2- Stay on Stock ROM and flash a kernel which allows Voltage tweaks and install SetCPU and Undervolt CPU. Ninphetamine 2.1.3 is such a kernel.
3- If thats too complicated for you, then flash an Undervolted kernel, like SpeedMod.
I won't advise you to change to a Custom ROM for battery backup betterment. But doing the above processes will certainly save some.
Regards.
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thanks for the quick reply, so custom kernels work with the stock rom...i thought it won't. i'm not that familiar yet with native androids cause in HD2 most of the undervolted kernels there are already built in the roms so i don't change it that much now with the NAND builds....but anyway, i'll try for the mean time # 1 & 3....i'm not that into that #2 tweaks yet in a phone that is not really mine....
It is proven that Stock ROM's with custom Kernels have sweet battery life. As with Stock ROM's they haven't tweaked anything, it's just stock and you flash what YOU want, whereas a custom ROM you're getting things you dont infact need.
I keep going back and forth from Custom ROM's to Stock ROM's.
Hi
I would also recommend looking at SicOpat's ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183774)
This is essentially a stock, rooted ROM with a custom kernel and I find it exceptionally good.
The other thing I would recommend then is to install Titanium Backup and freeze/uninstall a lot of the Samsung apps - WiFi Sharing, software update, *hub stuff. Removing these has a very positive impact on battery life.
Hope this helps.
-Barry
I have also been troubleshooting poor battery life on my phone. I used to lose 10-15% an hour just idling. I reflashed Stock KH3 with the KH3 CF-ROOT kernel and reinstalled a few things (twitter, yahoo messenger, google voice, and some apps that don't sync data). Currently I had 18hrs now with 60% left. MUCH better. A lot of the time the phone was idle but I did listen to music, play some games, and browse the internet/chat, use wifi a bit. Phone only lost like 4-6% overnight. (sorry I don't have hard figures but I didn't document any of it on paper). I'm trying to find out what was killing my battery so I am installing things little by little but I would definitely recommend stock KH3. Seems great so far.
I think your problem lies with the wifi-sharing battery bug. I hear this is updated in newer roms. This was the biggest battery hog on my phone, but after noticing it, my battery life is excellent now.
When Wifi is turned on/off this erroneous process starts in the background called "Wifi-Sharing". It hides and drains your battery at a VERY fast rate. The remedy is simply to "Force Stop" this process after you use Wifi.
Let us know if that helps.
You could root the phone and install Titanium to freeze this process permanently.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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sorry for the wrong forum i got messed up in opening a lot of samsung galaxy sII threads....
i dont see the "wifi sharing" in my dad's GSII when we used it. and as with kies, i think JKG2 firmware is the latest, so i assume that the wifi sharing bug has been fixed there, yes?
i know it would consume a lot since the GSII has a big "engine" but i didn't expect it to eat a lot even on standby with only YM and SKype messengers running in the background.
i'm still observing it. i'm still running stock.
EDIT: i just used wifi to download an app then when look for running apps, i saw "wifi-sharing" is running but i didn't even turned it on
i just flashed Speedmod T38 kernel (it seemed less complicated to use ) now observing if my dad's SGSII gets better
I'm a new Galaxy S II (and new Android) user, and am a bit disappointed in the battery life of my new phone. It was running down extremely quickly yesterday, only lasting about 12 hours with relatively normal use (sending half a dozen texts, downloading 2 apps, checking Facebook and Twitter once an hour or so for a couple of minutes throughout the day). I allowed the phone to discharge completely and charged it fully last night, but this morning nothing seems to have improved. I burned up 10% of the battery in half an hour sending 2 texts, checking my emails, Facebook and Twitter and downloading and trying out a couple of apps.
I'm anxious to know if there's a bit of a burn-in time with the battery on this thing - does it get better after a few charges? I see a lot of people saying they can have the phone on for a few days in some cases, but that's definitely not my experience thus far.
I've installed JuiceDefender (balanced profile), AutoKiller Memory and Advanced Task Killer to try to sort things out but none of them seem to having too much effect and to be quite honest I'd rather not have to compromise my experience by running a number of apps like this to try to extend my battery life at all (nor do I want to have to turn the brightness right down to an unusable level, or set black wallpapers for example).
Does anyone have any real advice on this? I'm starting to think that switching ROMs might be worthwhile? I see that the leaked 2.3.4 ROM seems to have better battery life - is this correct? I'm a bit reluctant to switch to any other unofficial ROMs as there are so many I wouldn't know where to start. It seems they all make a lot of changes but I'd want to keep as close to the stock feel as possible, just with better battery life.
no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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I'm a new Galaxy S II (and new Android) user, and am a bit disappointed in the battery life of my new phone. It was running down extremely quickly yesterday, only lasting about 12 hours with relatively normal use (sending half a dozen texts, downloading 2 apps, checking Facebook and Twitter once an hour or so for a couple of minutes throughout the day). I allowed the phone to discharge completely and charged it fully last night, but this morning nothing seems to have improved. I burned up 10% of the battery in half an hour sending 2 texts, checking my emails, Facebook and Twitter and downloading and trying out a couple of apps.
I'm anxious to know if there's a bit of a burn-in time with the battery on this thing - does it get better after a few charges? I see a lot of people saying they can have the phone on for a few days in some cases, but that's definitely not my experience thus far.
I've installed JuiceDefender (balanced profile), AutoKiller Memory and Advanced Task Killer to try to sort things out but none of them seem to having too much effect and to be quite honest I'd rather not have to compromise my experience by running a number of apps like this to try to extend my battery life at all (nor do I want to have to turn the brightness right down to an unusable level, or set black wallpapers for example).
Does anyone have any real advice on this? I'm starting to think that switching ROMs might be worthwhile? I see that the leaked 2.3.4 ROM seems to have better battery life - is this correct? I'm a bit reluctant to switch to any other unofficial ROMs as there are so many I wouldn't know where to start. It seems they all make a lot of changes but I'd want to keep as close to the stock feel as possible, just with better battery life.
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It is argued that task killers and memory killers will only make the problem worse. Juice Defender might be useful if you are using it for scheduling sync and turning WI-FI off when the screen is off, but this feature is only present in the Ultimate edition and you can turn off sync and WI-FI manually if you want. Also beware of rogue apps which are syncing all the time. It is normally the main reason of poor battery life.
Other reason, is that whereas powerful tech specs for phones were rapidly developed, battery technology didn't followed the pace. Our simply batteries cannot cope with our beasts.
Also, there is a thing that it's called "new phone battery blues" which is described as poor battery life due to excessive use of a new powerful toy. After you use your phone normally, for the purposes that normally people use a phone, your battery life will became better.
That said, personally I have a spare battery and a spare charger, and when the battery being used is low, I replace it with the charged one. Sometimes it is necessary, sometimes not.
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no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
Try using better battery stats, link in my sig, to see if you have any wakelocks, the thread has a good howto on using it.
The biggest thing that uses the battery on this phone is the screen, you will get between 4 and 6 hours of screen on time depending on usage and screen brightness.
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Get the original samsung 2000mah extended battery kit.
ahh the battery life talk again
brings back memories of the first days of the SGS2
never thought of reading one again
update to the newest ROM
and read the 1000+ threads about this topic
good day sir
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They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
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Fair point - not all of the roms are everyone's cup of tea. My advice, as a starting point is to flash the stock XXKH3 variant for your area, and then flash a custom kernel, such as Ninphetamine's or Hardcore's Speedmod. This will greatly help with battery life, and also give you the ability (via root access) to use Titanium Backup to freeze apps and services you're not using, which is often the major cause of battery drain through 'wakelocks'; apps that prevent your phone from entering Deep Sleep, or continuously wake it up.
Update to the latest version in your area, uninstall those task killers and whatnot or do a factory reset, install the apps that you are going to use normally like facebook twitter and install better battery stats, decrease brightness to your most tolerable level.
use the phone normally and when the battery is low, use the tool provided in android to check if your phone is sleeping when the screen is OFF, if you are having wakelocks, then use better battery stats to find which apps are causing the wake locks.
No need to install battery management apps, or task killers or memory optimization apps (or as custom rom as yet), that would only compound you problem which may be a very small one to begin with
Thanks for the help so far guys. I've installed XXKH3 and flashed hardcore's Speedmod kernel, and am just getting things set back up the way I like them again. I'm going to uninstall the battery saving apps for now and see how the battery lasts the next couple days.
I'll install Better Battery Stats and keep an eye on any wakelocks too.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction - it was all very simple and quick to get set up; the sheer number of kernels, ROMs, etc. is all a little overwhelming to me right now, being new to Android!
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I'm using stock KH3 with a stock kernel and am perfectly happy with the battery life ...
Im also a noob just got phone. Coming from evo, how do I root,
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They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
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there are other tweaks with custom roms that aren't found in the stock rom (which provides better functionality).
btw, i also suggest u use setcpu to underclock your device to save more batt.
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I'm using stock KH3 with a stock kernel and am perfectly happy with the battery life ...
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wow, good for you
I used HTC Desire before this device, and the roms on there actually hindered battery life, even with all the fancy underclocking, so I am betting, without even attempting to brick my phone, that they are just as overhyped on this phone too.
I get two to three days out of my phone, using it as a PHONE. I can send and receive emails and texts all day, along with phone calls and the occasional browsing and still get at least two days before it dies. I turn off data when I dont want it and stick it in 2G mode and it dares me to kill the battery.
Just let usage settle down and it's fine
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Im also a noob just got phone. Coming from evo, how do I root,
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I used this guide to install the latest firmware, and this guide to root it when I was done.
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there are other tweaks with custom roms that aren't found in the stock rom (which provides better functionality).
btw, i also suggest u use setcpu to underclock your device to save more batt.
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I've now installed SetCPU too, set to OnDemand. Thanks for the suggestion!
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I used this guide to install the latest firmware, and this guide to root it when I was done.
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I've now installed SetCPU too, set to OnDemand. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Beware using anything that isnt ondemand on samsung phones, can cause stuttering, that's what I found anyway.
As far as undervolting -25 to -50mv is a safe first bet.
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no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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Which ones provide the best battery life?
It's not very helpful if you don't direct this poor guy in any direction.
Cheers!
vlad88667 said:
Which ones provide the best battery life?
It's not very helpful if you don't direct this poor guy in any direction.
Cheers!
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Use touch x-power 1.0
It is optimized for battery life
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stop the madness.... just disable Gtalk autologin and you'll have x3 batt life....
i'm still on KG2 and see no need to update, as i easily get 2d+ battery life now...
EDIT: oh, and custom roms is for nerds. that's it. stock only.
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That is wrong. I used to have a UGKG2 ROM and since I upgraded to XXKH3, the battery is MUCH better while the GPS pinpoints in less than 3 seconds with a 5meters accuracy.
I recently got the galaxy s2 and it is my first Android phone. I love it but the battery life wasn't great. I recently rooted my phone and flashed with unNamed ROM and I feel like the battery life has doubled. Has everyone gotten this or could it be something else?
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I recently got the galaxy s2 and it is my first Android phone. I love it but the battery life wasn't great. I recently rooted my phone and flashed with unNamed ROM and I feel like the battery life has doubled. Has everyone gotten this or could it be something else?
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Battery life is great for me. The general census seems to be the same bro. UnNamed is an awesome rom that uses entrophys kernel that should increase the battery life of your device. Welcome to android. By the way. Cognition is an awesome rom too along with serendipity.
I flashed to UnNamed rom yesterday, today is my first full day with it. With moderate usage after 10 hours (wifi mostly off for the day), I'm sitting at 80%, with stock, I could barely make it to 15 hours.
What I noticed with UnNamed rom is my AOS usage is stable under 10% through out the day, where it was almost always >65% with stock!
Thanks for the reply guys!! Yeah it amazing how much better the battery has gotten with this ROM. I almost started to think the battery meter was off but I ran it down and its not off at all. Im not exaggerating when I say its getting double the time on a charge.
It seems to vary a bit for me. Yesterday I was at 75% remaining after 12hrs and I was using the phone a fair amount as I was off work. Today, also off work, I was down to around 45% after the same time. I didn't do anything more out of the ordinary but then again, I didn't specifically monitor it that close both days.
Either way, it's till much better than it was with stock.
Yup, there's crap in the stock ROM that drives data usage, which drives AOS up and kills battery.
Although: My "experimental" series kernels are based on 2.6.35.14, which it turns out hides AOS reporting without reducing drain.
OR - AOS was reported falsely high to begin with.
Still investigating.
FWIW, I have both Wifi sharing apps frozen in TiBu, but then I had it froze before flashing UnNamed, didn't see much of a battery increase until I flashed new rom.
As for AOS, it would start around 25% then fast climb to >90% in stock rom, I spent hours experimenting with different combos to see if anything definitive triggers the "reported" AOS drain, but nothing helped.
Anyways, I'm very happy with UnNamed and intend to keep it for now as I see no reason to flash to others at this point. A big THANK YOU to both gtg and entropy!
are you guys that are seeing reduced AOS use in UnNamed using Wi-Fi at all?
There seems to have been some correlation between turning Wi-Fi on in the stock ROM and increased AOS usage.
So I'm curious if this correlation disappears in UnNamed?
What is "AOS"?
SpectraDawn said:
What is "AOS"?
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Android OS -- a process that will show up in the battery status menu.
chrikenn said:
are you guys that are seeing reduced AOS use in UnNamed using Wi-Fi at all?
There seems to have been some correlation between turning Wi-Fi on in the stock ROM and increased AOS usage.
So I'm curious if this correlation disappears in UnNamed?
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My guess is there's some app in the stock ROM that gtg removed in Unnamed that is set to only use data when on wifi.
My high AOS problem in stock was not directly related to wifi being on. Once it reached >25%, it just kept creeping up sans a complete reboot.
Ah ok.
But your problem has disappeared since you installed UnNamed?
Yup, it's now anywhere from 2-15% during the day.
chrikenn said:
But your problem has disappeared since you installed UnNamed?
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I have been using UnNamed for about a week, added task650s theme...
My battery life is noticeably improved over stock. My AOS is at 13%, third down... I never noticed what it was stock, just know this is a great ROM. Fast, stable, great battery life.
I forgot to ask gtg - is he including experimental or non-experimental?
If the kernel version is 2.6.35.7 - if AOS is less than 10% for you, you are doing EXTREMELY well.
If 2.6.35.14 (experimental) - That alone will make AOS display as far lower without actually changing drain statistics.
How does a different ROM improve battery life so much over stock? I already rooted and removed most of the bloatware, but I'm still concerned about battery life. I wonder if it's worth switching.
EDIT: Some posts are saying that it's the kernel. If I just go ahead and install it from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289460 while still staying on the stock ROM, would it help my battery life?
My kernel is 2.6.35.7
Yesterday, while on the go, AOS stayed between 8-12% range. Today on charge, it's stable at 2%.
My kernel will provide some improvements in battery life, although I wouldn't consider there to be anything drastic yet compared to stock.
Unless you fall victim to the fuel_alerted wakelock... That one's nasty.
I might had been the victim of that wakelock, seeing how event/0 and suspense were killing the battery on stock rom.
Okay. So I am currently running shostock3 on my sgs2 with siyah kernal. I read the article from zedomax on galaxys2root.com that it has very good battery life and very stable but when i am running it, I have terrible battery life and i am currently underclocked or whatever the word is. Is there anyway to fix this?
My advice, run SHOstock3 as it was released. It runs great as shoman94 dev'd it.
...and stay away from that web site u mentioned.
Stick to XDA. Period!
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Yes. I'm running shostock3 with the included kernel and get good battery life.
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Getting great battery life on Shostock3 V3.0. Flashed the AJK 1.52s kernel. Checkout Better battery stats...see if you have wakelocks killing your battery. And..I agree that website is no good..stick to XDA.
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Okay. So I am currently running shostock3 on my sgs2 with siyah kernal. I read the article from zedomax on galaxys2root.com that it has very good battery life and very stable but when i am running it, I have terrible battery life and i am currently underclocked or whatever the word is. Is there anyway to fix this?
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which siyah kernel u r using. as far as i know theres no siyah kernel to run with shostock 3 except for ajk's (ktoonsez stopped working on siyah kernel for jb i777 after release of 4.3.3).
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Getting great battery life on Shostock3 V3.0. Flashed the AJK 1.52s kernel. Checkout Better battery stats...see if you have wakelocks killing your battery. And..I agree that website is no good..stick to XDA.
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Most people get really good battery life on SHOstock3. Just search the SHOstock3 thread for the word battery to see what I mean. If you're not getting good battery life, you need to find out what in your configuration is causing the problem, and fix it. There is a thread in the general section started by Entropy512 that you should study to help you identify where the problem is.
I was on GB ShoStock for a long time thinking ICS and JB would never leave me satisfied on battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353513
Finally came to my senses and tried out ShoStock 3 and have never looked back. To make it short the best Rom Ive ever flashed for any device I have had in the present and past.
You definitely have a rogue app killing your battery, find out which one it is and uninstall.
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Okay. So I am currently running shostock3 on my sgs2 with siyah kernal. I read the article from zedomax on galaxys2root.com that it has very good battery life and very stable but when i am running it, I have terrible battery life and i am currently underclocked or whatever the word is. Is there anyway to fix this?
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Sorry you have battery life problems.
I have been running Shostock3 since it came out (it's version 3.02 today!), but I also been on and off at least five (wow can it be that many?) JB roms on my SGH-i777 (won't even mention the # GB roms here!). After trying many, I must agree with the other posters who state that this rom delivers very good battery life when compared to stock and when compared with other custom roms.
Lately, it has delivered the best battery life I have ever had on this phone using any rom (although SlimBean JB provided very very good battery life for me recently as well! Also UnNamed was great for battery life in the old GB days )
I followed the recommendations made by creepyncrawly to read Entropy's (& others) battery notes/faqs. They provide some really good background, some with that typical "XDA flavor" (read technical!. That material, plus some more plain old simple user adjustments to how and what I use on the phone have improved my phone's battery time; and it might help you as well.
It really boils down to the fact that each phone user loads different apps and our usage patterns vary.
Assume that you've flashed it and let it settle for a few days and several recharge cycles. After doing this you can see what YOUR "norms" are. They may be good or bad, but that's the baseline for you with this rom and with the apps and usage pattern you have.
(You can tweak voltage and speed (well, not speed on SS3!), but my experience has been that the more noticeable changes will be by adjusting your pattern of use, or doing the "hunt for the app" (or apps) that are burning down your run times when not in use.
Not many here seem to like or do this, but I would also try one of those "help-you-with-battery-use" apps --like juice defender (Ok, I get that many here seem to think it a waste, but it really did help me --a little-- when I used it); or get DS Battery saver (a bit more aggressive and noticeable, but you also notice the lag while you wait for things to turn on when you want them).
Actually, these may not be precision solutions, and don't focus on your specific phone app use, but they do work in a macro way to slow battery use and simply working with them for a few days or weeks will provide you with a better a sense of what the heck is going on under the plastic; they will cause you to look at what you have/run and when.
Oh, this includes using Better Battery Stats, which is fine for reporting out exactly which the apps behave --or don't-- and by how much and when. I'm not slow (well, that slow but it frankly, it took me quite a while to figure out what I was reading in the BBS readouts and what they meant! (Now, after a year+ or so of using it, I don't even have it loaded, since I've done the fiddling I need --and BBS, plus those other battery apps, helped me to figure out what apps worked well, what apps I was willing to sacrifice battery on and what apps were useless and should be tossed.)
Finally, some roms just don't work for people! So it's not worth the frustration chasing something you may not be able to achieve with this or another rom. (You probably read how individuals have problems that you don't -yet, you run the same rom and the same phone! That is our world. So, too, you will read about some who make amazing claims on how long they continue on one charge. Some are pretty amazing, and some may even be real
My final five cents would be:
#1 run the rom a couple of days, get a baseline. Then switch from Jeboo kernel to AJK's latest for TW (I think it is 1.25ss, but I really also had great results from 1.48s) and run it a few more days. They were pretty much even for me, but others find one or the other kernel makes a real difference!). Compare after doing the same activities through a charge or two.
#2 If your battery life remains "poor," note what poor really is (ex. how much screen time? and how much total run time prior to getting to zero or 10-15%? ...something like that).
#3. Then get BBS and one of the "automatic" battery-saver programs and work with it for about 4-5 days and that many recharge cycles. See what your norms are but do it for the same type of usage!!! If better while using the battery fixers, then you can work at picking off the app or apps that are sucking your battery more than you want. Not as tedious as it sounds. Of course, staying with a rom for three weeks might be a challenge :laugh:, but this is a nice rom to work with.
#4. I don't think you will need to under-volt to get good BL. I wonder if your phone is stable in doing that? Or, does it induce additional lag? That might be a high price to pay for more run time. (You could compare the UV results with your "norm" as well!)
#5. Finally, we are on Galaxy S2 Sgh-i777 -and can change batteries all day long for not so much per battery! It is not elegant, but it works. (Done it myself several times -even with good battery life).
Good Luck!
Best ROM, Good battery life... been with Shoman's ROM since shostock2 never have a problem with the battery life...
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