Okay. So I am currently running shostock3 on my sgs2 with siyah kernal. I read the article from zedomax on galaxys2root.com that it has very good battery life and very stable but when i am running it, I have terrible battery life and i am currently underclocked or whatever the word is. Is there anyway to fix this?
My advice, run SHOstock3 as it was released. It runs great as shoman94 dev'd it.
...and stay away from that web site u mentioned.
Stick to XDA. Period!
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Yes. I'm running shostock3 with the included kernel and get good battery life.
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Getting great battery life on Shostock3 V3.0. Flashed the AJK 1.52s kernel. Checkout Better battery stats...see if you have wakelocks killing your battery. And..I agree that website is no good..stick to XDA.
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Okay. So I am currently running shostock3 on my sgs2 with siyah kernal. I read the article from zedomax on galaxys2root.com that it has very good battery life and very stable but when i am running it, I have terrible battery life and i am currently underclocked or whatever the word is. Is there anyway to fix this?
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which siyah kernel u r using. as far as i know theres no siyah kernel to run with shostock 3 except for ajk's (ktoonsez stopped working on siyah kernel for jb i777 after release of 4.3.3).
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Getting great battery life on Shostock3 V3.0. Flashed the AJK 1.52s kernel. Checkout Better battery stats...see if you have wakelocks killing your battery. And..I agree that website is no good..stick to XDA.
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Most people get really good battery life on SHOstock3. Just search the SHOstock3 thread for the word battery to see what I mean. If you're not getting good battery life, you need to find out what in your configuration is causing the problem, and fix it. There is a thread in the general section started by Entropy512 that you should study to help you identify where the problem is.
I was on GB ShoStock for a long time thinking ICS and JB would never leave me satisfied on battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353513
Finally came to my senses and tried out ShoStock 3 and have never looked back. To make it short the best Rom Ive ever flashed for any device I have had in the present and past.
You definitely have a rogue app killing your battery, find out which one it is and uninstall.
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Okay. So I am currently running shostock3 on my sgs2 with siyah kernal. I read the article from zedomax on galaxys2root.com that it has very good battery life and very stable but when i am running it, I have terrible battery life and i am currently underclocked or whatever the word is. Is there anyway to fix this?
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Sorry you have battery life problems.
I have been running Shostock3 since it came out (it's version 3.02 today!), but I also been on and off at least five (wow can it be that many?) JB roms on my SGH-i777 (won't even mention the # GB roms here!). After trying many, I must agree with the other posters who state that this rom delivers very good battery life when compared to stock and when compared with other custom roms.
Lately, it has delivered the best battery life I have ever had on this phone using any rom (although SlimBean JB provided very very good battery life for me recently as well! Also UnNamed was great for battery life in the old GB days )
I followed the recommendations made by creepyncrawly to read Entropy's (& others) battery notes/faqs. They provide some really good background, some with that typical "XDA flavor" (read technical!. That material, plus some more plain old simple user adjustments to how and what I use on the phone have improved my phone's battery time; and it might help you as well.
It really boils down to the fact that each phone user loads different apps and our usage patterns vary.
Assume that you've flashed it and let it settle for a few days and several recharge cycles. After doing this you can see what YOUR "norms" are. They may be good or bad, but that's the baseline for you with this rom and with the apps and usage pattern you have.
(You can tweak voltage and speed (well, not speed on SS3!), but my experience has been that the more noticeable changes will be by adjusting your pattern of use, or doing the "hunt for the app" (or apps) that are burning down your run times when not in use.
Not many here seem to like or do this, but I would also try one of those "help-you-with-battery-use" apps --like juice defender (Ok, I get that many here seem to think it a waste, but it really did help me --a little-- when I used it); or get DS Battery saver (a bit more aggressive and noticeable, but you also notice the lag while you wait for things to turn on when you want them).
Actually, these may not be precision solutions, and don't focus on your specific phone app use, but they do work in a macro way to slow battery use and simply working with them for a few days or weeks will provide you with a better a sense of what the heck is going on under the plastic; they will cause you to look at what you have/run and when.
Oh, this includes using Better Battery Stats, which is fine for reporting out exactly which the apps behave --or don't-- and by how much and when. I'm not slow (well, that slow but it frankly, it took me quite a while to figure out what I was reading in the BBS readouts and what they meant! (Now, after a year+ or so of using it, I don't even have it loaded, since I've done the fiddling I need --and BBS, plus those other battery apps, helped me to figure out what apps worked well, what apps I was willing to sacrifice battery on and what apps were useless and should be tossed.)
Finally, some roms just don't work for people! So it's not worth the frustration chasing something you may not be able to achieve with this or another rom. (You probably read how individuals have problems that you don't -yet, you run the same rom and the same phone! That is our world. So, too, you will read about some who make amazing claims on how long they continue on one charge. Some are pretty amazing, and some may even be real
My final five cents would be:
#1 run the rom a couple of days, get a baseline. Then switch from Jeboo kernel to AJK's latest for TW (I think it is 1.25ss, but I really also had great results from 1.48s) and run it a few more days. They were pretty much even for me, but others find one or the other kernel makes a real difference!). Compare after doing the same activities through a charge or two.
#2 If your battery life remains "poor," note what poor really is (ex. how much screen time? and how much total run time prior to getting to zero or 10-15%? ...something like that).
#3. Then get BBS and one of the "automatic" battery-saver programs and work with it for about 4-5 days and that many recharge cycles. See what your norms are but do it for the same type of usage!!! If better while using the battery fixers, then you can work at picking off the app or apps that are sucking your battery more than you want. Not as tedious as it sounds. Of course, staying with a rom for three weeks might be a challenge :laugh:, but this is a nice rom to work with.
#4. I don't think you will need to under-volt to get good BL. I wonder if your phone is stable in doing that? Or, does it induce additional lag? That might be a high price to pay for more run time. (You could compare the UV results with your "norm" as well!)
#5. Finally, we are on Galaxy S2 Sgh-i777 -and can change batteries all day long for not so much per battery! It is not elegant, but it works. (Done it myself several times -even with good battery life).
Good Luck!
Best ROM, Good battery life... been with Shoman's ROM since shostock2 never have a problem with the battery life...
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I'm a new Galaxy S II (and new Android) user, and am a bit disappointed in the battery life of my new phone. It was running down extremely quickly yesterday, only lasting about 12 hours with relatively normal use (sending half a dozen texts, downloading 2 apps, checking Facebook and Twitter once an hour or so for a couple of minutes throughout the day). I allowed the phone to discharge completely and charged it fully last night, but this morning nothing seems to have improved. I burned up 10% of the battery in half an hour sending 2 texts, checking my emails, Facebook and Twitter and downloading and trying out a couple of apps.
I'm anxious to know if there's a bit of a burn-in time with the battery on this thing - does it get better after a few charges? I see a lot of people saying they can have the phone on for a few days in some cases, but that's definitely not my experience thus far.
I've installed JuiceDefender (balanced profile), AutoKiller Memory and Advanced Task Killer to try to sort things out but none of them seem to having too much effect and to be quite honest I'd rather not have to compromise my experience by running a number of apps like this to try to extend my battery life at all (nor do I want to have to turn the brightness right down to an unusable level, or set black wallpapers for example).
Does anyone have any real advice on this? I'm starting to think that switching ROMs might be worthwhile? I see that the leaked 2.3.4 ROM seems to have better battery life - is this correct? I'm a bit reluctant to switch to any other unofficial ROMs as there are so many I wouldn't know where to start. It seems they all make a lot of changes but I'd want to keep as close to the stock feel as possible, just with better battery life.
no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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I'm a new Galaxy S II (and new Android) user, and am a bit disappointed in the battery life of my new phone. It was running down extremely quickly yesterday, only lasting about 12 hours with relatively normal use (sending half a dozen texts, downloading 2 apps, checking Facebook and Twitter once an hour or so for a couple of minutes throughout the day). I allowed the phone to discharge completely and charged it fully last night, but this morning nothing seems to have improved. I burned up 10% of the battery in half an hour sending 2 texts, checking my emails, Facebook and Twitter and downloading and trying out a couple of apps.
I'm anxious to know if there's a bit of a burn-in time with the battery on this thing - does it get better after a few charges? I see a lot of people saying they can have the phone on for a few days in some cases, but that's definitely not my experience thus far.
I've installed JuiceDefender (balanced profile), AutoKiller Memory and Advanced Task Killer to try to sort things out but none of them seem to having too much effect and to be quite honest I'd rather not have to compromise my experience by running a number of apps like this to try to extend my battery life at all (nor do I want to have to turn the brightness right down to an unusable level, or set black wallpapers for example).
Does anyone have any real advice on this? I'm starting to think that switching ROMs might be worthwhile? I see that the leaked 2.3.4 ROM seems to have better battery life - is this correct? I'm a bit reluctant to switch to any other unofficial ROMs as there are so many I wouldn't know where to start. It seems they all make a lot of changes but I'd want to keep as close to the stock feel as possible, just with better battery life.
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It is argued that task killers and memory killers will only make the problem worse. Juice Defender might be useful if you are using it for scheduling sync and turning WI-FI off when the screen is off, but this feature is only present in the Ultimate edition and you can turn off sync and WI-FI manually if you want. Also beware of rogue apps which are syncing all the time. It is normally the main reason of poor battery life.
Other reason, is that whereas powerful tech specs for phones were rapidly developed, battery technology didn't followed the pace. Our simply batteries cannot cope with our beasts.
Also, there is a thing that it's called "new phone battery blues" which is described as poor battery life due to excessive use of a new powerful toy. After you use your phone normally, for the purposes that normally people use a phone, your battery life will became better.
That said, personally I have a spare battery and a spare charger, and when the battery being used is low, I replace it with the charged one. Sometimes it is necessary, sometimes not.
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They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
Try using better battery stats, link in my sig, to see if you have any wakelocks, the thread has a good howto on using it.
The biggest thing that uses the battery on this phone is the screen, you will get between 4 and 6 hours of screen on time depending on usage and screen brightness.
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Get the original samsung 2000mah extended battery kit.
ahh the battery life talk again
brings back memories of the first days of the SGS2
never thought of reading one again
update to the newest ROM
and read the 1000+ threads about this topic
good day sir
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They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
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Fair point - not all of the roms are everyone's cup of tea. My advice, as a starting point is to flash the stock XXKH3 variant for your area, and then flash a custom kernel, such as Ninphetamine's or Hardcore's Speedmod. This will greatly help with battery life, and also give you the ability (via root access) to use Titanium Backup to freeze apps and services you're not using, which is often the major cause of battery drain through 'wakelocks'; apps that prevent your phone from entering Deep Sleep, or continuously wake it up.
Update to the latest version in your area, uninstall those task killers and whatnot or do a factory reset, install the apps that you are going to use normally like facebook twitter and install better battery stats, decrease brightness to your most tolerable level.
use the phone normally and when the battery is low, use the tool provided in android to check if your phone is sleeping when the screen is OFF, if you are having wakelocks, then use better battery stats to find which apps are causing the wake locks.
No need to install battery management apps, or task killers or memory optimization apps (or as custom rom as yet), that would only compound you problem which may be a very small one to begin with
Thanks for the help so far guys. I've installed XXKH3 and flashed hardcore's Speedmod kernel, and am just getting things set back up the way I like them again. I'm going to uninstall the battery saving apps for now and see how the battery lasts the next couple days.
I'll install Better Battery Stats and keep an eye on any wakelocks too.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction - it was all very simple and quick to get set up; the sheer number of kernels, ROMs, etc. is all a little overwhelming to me right now, being new to Android!
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no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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I'm using stock KH3 with a stock kernel and am perfectly happy with the battery life ...
Im also a noob just got phone. Coming from evo, how do I root,
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They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
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there are other tweaks with custom roms that aren't found in the stock rom (which provides better functionality).
btw, i also suggest u use setcpu to underclock your device to save more batt.
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I'm using stock KH3 with a stock kernel and am perfectly happy with the battery life ...
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wow, good for you
I used HTC Desire before this device, and the roms on there actually hindered battery life, even with all the fancy underclocking, so I am betting, without even attempting to brick my phone, that they are just as overhyped on this phone too.
I get two to three days out of my phone, using it as a PHONE. I can send and receive emails and texts all day, along with phone calls and the occasional browsing and still get at least two days before it dies. I turn off data when I dont want it and stick it in 2G mode and it dares me to kill the battery.
Just let usage settle down and it's fine
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Im also a noob just got phone. Coming from evo, how do I root,
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I used this guide to install the latest firmware, and this guide to root it when I was done.
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there are other tweaks with custom roms that aren't found in the stock rom (which provides better functionality).
btw, i also suggest u use setcpu to underclock your device to save more batt.
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I've now installed SetCPU too, set to OnDemand. Thanks for the suggestion!
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I used this guide to install the latest firmware, and this guide to root it when I was done.
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I've now installed SetCPU too, set to OnDemand. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Beware using anything that isnt ondemand on samsung phones, can cause stuttering, that's what I found anyway.
As far as undervolting -25 to -50mv is a safe first bet.
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no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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Which ones provide the best battery life?
It's not very helpful if you don't direct this poor guy in any direction.
Cheers!
vlad88667 said:
Which ones provide the best battery life?
It's not very helpful if you don't direct this poor guy in any direction.
Cheers!
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Use touch x-power 1.0
It is optimized for battery life
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stop the madness.... just disable Gtalk autologin and you'll have x3 batt life....
i'm still on KG2 and see no need to update, as i easily get 2d+ battery life now...
EDIT: oh, and custom roms is for nerds. that's it. stock only.
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That is wrong. I used to have a UGKG2 ROM and since I upgraded to XXKH3, the battery is MUCH better while the GPS pinpoints in less than 3 seconds with a 5meters accuracy.
I've used ninphetamine 2.1.3+ and it used to drain my battery a fair bit. After having seen another user who said he was experiencing better battery life with ninphetamine 2.0.5. I flashed the older version and it turns out to be indeed better.
My idle drain rate is now 15-17mA using Battery Monitor widget.
So when put in picture. Drain rate is about 2% per hour with minimal usage. (Note 3g data was on)
Anyone else have a better kernel?
EDIT 1:
I've tried using SiyahKernel (KI3) and it seems that according to Battery Monitor widget the idle battery drain is 14-15ma. Seems to be much better. However, occasionally the touchscreen freezes and only the touch button works. But then again it could have been because I was using the KI3 kernel on a KH3 rom. Would report back after I finally get off my lazy ass and flash a KI3 rom
EDIT 2:
Got off my lazy ass finally. Flashed LeoMar 2.7.1 rom with SiyahKernel 1.7.8. Will report back after a while. Though I must say that for some reasons after the boot animation the phone turns black for quite a long time (1-4 Seconds) before the lockscreen appears. This did not happened with the default LeoMar 2.7.1 kernel. Will report back in 24 Hours.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=92694072&pp=25
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Thanks sherlock. I posted my findings and was asking if anyone else had better. If it the time of the month of you. Stay off this forum.
Personally I find it very difficult to make meaningful comparisons, especially at idle.
Battery Monitor Widget gives estimates and not actual current drain. See this thread for some discussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056486 but basically it's either not in Samsung's battery driver or the app is not reading the information. So you are comparing estimates and the margin for error might be pretty large.
When you flash new kernels you also need to recalibrate the battery. That also affects your battery drain estimates. (I've had Battery Monitor Widget tell me my battery is going up when its unplugged, so go figure.)
Battery life at idle is affected by so many factors. Maybe your signal strength is better one day than another. Or you got more emails or did more syncing. Or one app just happen to glitch and have a very long wakelock. If you get battery drain, you should be checking your partial wakelocks with BetterBatteryStats. Did you get more partial wakelocks when you were running Nin 2.1.3? Is it the kernel's fault or did you just have a misbehaving app?
I like experimenting with different kernels too, so my point is don't expect miracles when somebody says Kernel X gives amazing battery life compared to Kernel Y. Personally I think they are all about the same at idle, and the big differences are in your settings and your usage. If you wipe your phone, don't add any Google or Exchange accounts, and don't sync or download anything, your battery will last 3 or 4 days on idle no matter what kernel you use.
Stock rooted KI3 (cf-root) is the best for battery life for me, i also have constat 3800+ quadrant score (with top of 4109 as my screenshot in leomar 2.7 rom thread).
Also i have the phone a lot, but really a lot less hot while gaming or stressing it.
KI3 stock kernel and SiyahKernel are at the moment the best in battery life. Anything else is running on older sources and drain more.
The best for me is SpeedMod! Smooth and long life battery. There is something you can't do (bootanimation oc uv bln) but simply great!
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best results for me: stock kernel reflashed after rooting, for that stock rom.
Bar none the way to go.
Stock Rooted KI3 does look good, am yet to test it though
Hmm. So seems like you guys are experiencing deliciously good battery life with KI3 kernel. I shall try it and report back with some numbers.
try siyah kernel. one of the fastest growing kernels IMO
For me is Ninphetamine 2.1.3 and now i'm trying SiyahKernel 1.7.7
My question is.. between stock ki3 and SiyahKernel 1.7.7 the difference is really small (barely notice it) or big?
I tend to not flash to much kernels since the very small chance to corrupt the efs folder (even if ofc i have my backup), so if it's only small improvement, i stay on the stock ki3, if it improves a lot, i prolly try it
I've been using the siyah kernel v1.7.7 and I've been experiencing a great battery life. I didn't use the stock kernel for long to make a comparison but I sugest you give siyah at least a try, since you can always go back to stock if you don't like ir.
Updated 1st post with my new findings.
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Updated 1st post with my new findings.
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batistaRom and ninp 2.0.5 great battery life for me...if you like i can post screenshots if anyone is using setcpu, depending on your kernel try and research in the kernel thread regarding frequencies that other users suggest and adjust yours accordingly...thats what i have done for mine and i could not be any more happier
Alright. I've finally got off my lazy ass and flashed a 2.3.5 rom (LeoMar if you must know) and am currently using siyah 1.7.8. Will report back within 24 hours after I've put the device through a day's use.
cf root KI3 stock kernel on RevolutionRom 2.7.1.
53 hours battery life 3 hours 19mins screen time wifi on 1/3 time, 4g on 2/3 time with facebook sync.
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cf root KI3 stock kernel on RevolutionRom 2.7.1.
53 hours battery life 3 hours 19mins screen time wifi on 1/3 time, 4g on 2/3 time with facebook sync.
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Hi, I posted earlier saying that siyah 1.7.7 gave me good battery life. I tried now the cf root v4.2 KI3 and I had better results. Well, I'm someone that don't play many games, but I surf a lot and download a lot of stuff on wifi. I don't care much for overclocking so I think I'm going to stay wth KI3 cf root. For me they're both great for battery life, and maybe the other ones I have not tried are great also (speedmod, ragemod, ninphetamine...)
I think what happens with kernels, and this happens also with custom ROMs (and everything really, brands, etc..) is there is a lot of fanaticism. People like to choose one ROM and kernel and stick to them. They start to defend the kernels they use convincing themselves they're the best no matter what. That is in my opinion the reason because this kind of discussion turns meaningless. Well not that meaningless, at least it gives an idea of the kernels people are using, at least we know speedmod, ragemod, siyah, nimph, are all great kernels.
I'm not criticizing anyone, in fact, I'm just another example of the people I described.
So im using MIUI Galnet ICS with Siyah kernel, and i completely love almost everything about this rom, but i say almost because my battery life is not so good i get like 13 hours with pretty low use.
So my question is:
What rom has the best battery life, fairly smooth and stable (battery life at highest priority)? What would be the best kernel (battery wise) to use with this ROM?
Another question kinda not on topic but anyways;
If my phone fell a few times (sometimes on side, sometimes on screen sometimes on back)(with screen protector and back cover) can any of the internal components get damaged? cuz sometimes the phone gets minor freezes.
P.S.
I have been told CheckromRevolution 5.5 is probably one of the best roms battery wise, the thing is there is CheckRomRevolution HD 3.1.x now
So which CheckRom ROM has best battery life?
The best ROM for battery life is the one which is so bad, it makes you not want to use the phone.
Currently using Simple and Clean with Speedmod. Pretty good, but it's just my first discharge cycle so I can't judge yet, but I definitely see some improvements from Litening. CheckROM and Sensation 1.9 also seems decent. Cognition as well.
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Currently using Simple and Clean with Speedmod. Pretty good, but it's just my first discharge cycle so I can't judge yet, but I definitely see some improvements from Litening. CheckROM and Sensation 1.9 also seems decent. Cognition as well.
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Yes i have been told CheckRom is one of the ROMS with the best battery lives
but im gonna wait for more comments.
^^^^BUMP^^^^
ICS ROM best ROM.
Cmon people your breaking my balls...
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Cmon people your breaking my balls...
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balls broken...
This will depend on so many variables, network, location, Modem, ROM, Kernel, user installs of software, wake locks, bad signal.......
Hence the only way to find is via flashing bedding testing....
As you will notice users can have same setup but very different outcomes..
Using CWM backup you can always revert to stable setup.
On that note thread closed...
New to the galaxy note, any suggestions for roms with good battery life?
blackstar☆ and pawdan for me opinion you try for 2 or 3 day and see who like you
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I've tried every rom available here ...for the I717 ..
And "For Me"..
The best battery life comes from the following builds ..
Saurom ..GB 2.3.6 .....and ..
Flappjaxxx UCLF6 ICS Build #5.
But please remember, that I prefer zeam launcher, and use only a handful of apps and never Widgets.
You simply have to try the builds for yourself, and determine the best balance between performance and features.
But more importantly, the 717 runs best without overclock..IMHO ...and basically using a stock kernel.
Optimization of the build for the device is very important in maintaining a smooth and functional file structure....
That being said, I stick with slightly modified stock builds for the note, and I always disable the stock Touchwiz launcher, as I can confirm it's a battery hog.
But invariably, I feel that Samsung did an excellent job when optimizing GB, while ICS is larger and not as refined...and JB official will correct the ICS bugs.
We can only hope that Samsung releases the JB we see on the note 2....as it truly is an exceptional build.
Good luck in your flashing and optimization of the builds you choose ...g
BlackStar X did the trick for me. I also turned sync off and manually sync my email account. Turning data off also helps otherwise when screen is off battery keeps draining.
I'm also looking for a battery saving ROM. This is insane. Data is rarely on and it's almost always on WiFi. I'm a average to low user. Don't play any games, make a handful of calls a day, text more often. Screen is on for maybe a few minutes at a time.
Currently on Blackstar XI DXLJ2 and it's absolutely horrible. Gonna try Blackstar X and see if it's any better.
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I'm also looking for a battery saving ROM. This is insane. Data is rarely on and it's almost always on WiFi. I'm a average to low user. Don't play any games, make a handful of calls a day, text more often. Screen is on for maybe a few minutes at a time.
Currently on Blackstar XI DXLJ2 and it's absolutely horrible. Gonna try Blackstar X and see if it's any better.
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Watch yourself. I don't do horrible. Lmao. Seriously.
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Watch yourself. I don't do horrible. Lmao. Seriously.
ThE UnknowN
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Didn't mean it like that! Lol. The ROM itself was amazing, but the battery life was the complete opposite. Again, ROM was GREAT!
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Didn't mean it like that! Lol. The ROM itself was amazing, but the battery life was the complete opposite. Again, ROM was GREAT!
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The battery life is no different than any other DXLJ2 rom.
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All roms are exactly the same on battery life... That is until you've tested it on your device.
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Its how you use you phone and what you use on your phone that determines the battery life. From a development standpoint, there are minor changes that we can implement to improve battery duration. The difference will be negligible. You might notice an in increase in your battery, but again it won't be much.
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Yeah, differences aren't too large. For example, your screen on time will always be in the 4 hour range if you have a medium-ish brightness.
With that said, sometimes a ROM can have a bug and your standby time suffers. I've also noticed the battery curve is sometimes different so it would appear the battery level drops faster but then it slows down and the total time ( from 100 to 0) ends up being the same.
ChronoReverse said:
Yeah, differences aren't too large. For example, your screen on time will always be in the 4 hour range if you have a medium-ish brightness.
With that said, sometimes a ROM can have a bug and your standby time suffers. I've also noticed the battery curve is sometimes different so it would appear the battery level drops faster but then it slows down and the total time ( from 100 to 0) ends up being the same.
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Holy crap. I'm lucky if I get 2 hours screen on, but thats with auto brightness. maybe I need to set it to medium brightness.
But I too have noticed some large battery differences on ROMS with the same base/kernel. I don't understand it, because as stated, the rom doesn't affect battery much.
I've since found a ROM, that with using it the same exact way, battery life is substantially better. That comment wasn't to offend a developer or get into a debate. Obviously a major part is how you use the phone, I know this.
quickbird144 said:
I've since found a ROM, that with using it the same exact way, battery life is substantially better. That comment wasn't to offend a developer or get into a debate. Obviously a major part is how you use the phone, I know this.
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You didn't offend me. Lmao. I probably know what Rom you are referring too. And I doubt its that it's better. I run all the roms and test them all. Pretty much the same all across the board. In the end it's the user who matters.So if you found a rom you belive is better for you battery wise, then kudos. Im glad you found a rom that works best for you.
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Right on.
Back to basics shall we.
mike208 said:
Holy crap. I'm lucky if I get 2 hours screen on, but thats with auto brightness. maybe I need to set it to medium brightness.
But I too have noticed some large battery differences on ROMS with the same base/kernel. I don't understand it, because as stated, the rom doesn't affect battery much.
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It also depends if you're using LTE. I should qualified my assertion with "just playing video using the hardware decoder".
I went I the play store and bought juice defender ultimate. Makes a big difference, well worth the money in my opinion.
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Here's a little story for ya.
I started out using Ginger stock, the interface felt sluggish coming from an iphone4 (wow I haven't typed "iphone" in such a long time, I feel weird!)
After mucho research, I went for the Eclipse rom. Ultra smooth, gotta love it. Like every other rom (so I've heard), I still get random reboot, but very few, about once a week and sometimes don't get it at all. Battery life is crazily good, loses about 4% overnight with "interactive governor". Music player always stop responding on first open. But I can live with that, just kill app and reopen and it's good to go. Overall, using the Eclipse rom has been a very nice experience.
Then I tried Novena (ICS rom I believe), the interface wasn't as smooth as JB, the battery also drains fast for some reason (yes I have turned off every option that could potentially drain the battery), so I moved on...
Then I tried JellyBeer, smooth just like Eclipse but with more options. However, the battery also drains pretty fast, why? I really don't know, played around for hours but still couldn't figure it out.
At last, I came back to Eclipse, everything is almost just how I want the phone to be.
In retrospect, I hit the jackpot on the first try. But it is certtainly worth the attempt to flash a variety of roms, eventually you will find the one that delivers.
You do know it takes a couple charge cycles for the rom and battery to "settle in" with each other right?
You can't judge Battery life by the few hours you have a rom flashed.. which I bet you were playing with the phone the whole time as well setting everything up the way you like seeing what other options are available all that jazz, making it seem like the rom was killing your battery even more.
Pitting these FREE roms against each other when it really comes down to end user, is unfair to the developers who do this unpaid in their free time.
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You do know it takes a couple charge cycles for the rom and battery to "settle in" with each other right?
You can't judge Battery life by the few hours you have a rom flashed.. which I bet you were playing with the phone the whole time as well setting everything up the way you like seeing what other options are available all that jazz, making it seem like the rom was killing your battery even more.
Pitting these FREE roms against each other when it really comes down to end user, is unfair to the developers who do this unpaid in their free time.
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Be a man, some works and some just don't. Your mileage may vary.
To quote myself:
"It is certtainly worth the attempt to flash a variety of roms, eventually you will find the one that delivers."
Hello,
I'm running 2.3.6 now and I wonder if I switch to 2.3.4 will I have less battery drain? Are there any functional lacks on 2.3.4 comparing to 2.3.6? However, I use GO Launcher on rooted phone.
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Well next time please do post questiona in the general sub forum Anyway I think it is better to just update to 4.1.2 since you are rooted anyway. I get better battery life and signal on 4.1.2 compared to 2.3. My choice of a rooted stocked based rom would be NeatROM Lite by Sale :good:
I agree. Generally, upgrading rather than downgrading will increase performance so I would just go wit a higher version. Also, if you feel you have an unnatural battery drain, there are other options except switching versions to handle that. Maybe it is one of your apps that causes the battery drain. Other possibilites are sync cycles or kernel. If you switch to another kernel that might help your problems better than switching ROMs (although switching ROMs is always recommended, just for the fun of it )
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I don't know if I am doing something wrong, but I just flashed NeatRom 5.0 and the battery life is terrible.
From my point of view, 2.3.4 stock with speedmod kernel was the best with my s2. I had battery life for 2 days. With latest roms I have battery life for max. 24h. I always did a clean install with factory reset. Don´t know why the battery life is so bad with my phone.
But now I ll give it another try. I will format the whole phone and try sentinel rom again which i liked most
NeatRom 5.0 killed my battery also. Trying 4.9 for now as I jumped from 4.6. If it's buggy I will switch back to 4.6
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Media scanner fix for battery problem on neat ROM should fix this. Also Apollo kernel is great mix with any stick Sammy ROM.
I don't know why flash modded kernels (at least if you are about to have better battery life, not other mods)? I have plain stock GB 2.3.6 XWKL1 (DDKL1) and just use Go Power Master, Set Cpu and calibrated battery.
At first when I went back from ICS to GB battery lasted for 14hrs. I charged battery fully on and battery "learned" new system and went up to 23hrs. Then I calibrated battery: fully discharge till phone went off, again started, playing till off again and again till it won't on. Then without turning it on I charged battery fully, unplugged charger, waited till battery went to 99% and plug in charger again till 100%, and again. I was using WiFi over half time of usage, flight mode at nights, play wit phone settings, installing apps, browse internet a little, use as phone as usual, listen a music a little, browse photos, etc, and battery lasted for 39hrs on stock battery which previous owner using for last two years and he didn't care about healthy battery usage. I got Samsung Extension Pack with 2000mAh Battery and flat back panel but it waits for new S2 I bought yesterday. I will put new battery after ROM flash and get all restored to state I have now, then I calibrate that bigger battery for new phone.
But anyway, question was if someone was playing with 2.3.4 and 2.3.6 stock ROM's in order to achieve better battery performance? I read somewhere that guy had over 4 days on stock battery and 2.3.4 GB. So I wonder if I switch to 2.3.4, which may be probably less demanding system than 2.3.6, will I get more time on one charging? I don't care about how it may or not look like cause I use GO Launcher anyways, but does it have same stuff and functionality as 2.3.6?
The problem with comparing your phones battery life is that it's depending on too many variables. You can't just say 'My phone lasted 30 hours with this and that usage', because everybody is using it differently. If you really want to test it, flash both versions yourself and try.
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Media scanner fix for battery problem on neat ROM should fix this. Also Apollo kernel is great mix with any stick Sammy ROM.
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Can't find "media scanner fix" in the market. Any chance of a link.
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In addition to Donnie's very good point, you're asking about 2yr+ old firmware. Do you realise how few people on a site like this are actually running firmware that old ? You'd probably find a fair number of 'ordinary phone users' out there who are still running GB because they may not be technologically au fait enough to do an OTA update.
At the end of the day, changing firmware to squeeze every last drop of battery life becomes a game of diminishing returns in that you can spend a lot of time to get that last tenth of a % of use out of every charge. You have to ask yourself is it really worth it, or is it worth simply enjoying your phone & chucking it on charge every night (or if you really chew through battery, getting a spare).
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In addition to Donnie's very good point, you're asking about 2yr+ old firmware. Do you realise how few people on a site like this are actually running firmware that old ? You'd probably find a fair number of 'ordinary phone users' out there who are still running GB because they may not be technologically au fait enough to do an OTA update.
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Well, the thing is I don't understand why people update their phones and then complain about battery life if 2.3.6 works fine from what I observe here and there.?
As per Donnie's post, there's too many variables involved to say 'This Android version will definitely give you better battery life than that version'. Personally, I get better battery life out of JB roms than I ever did out of GB or ICS roms, not that I got poor battery life out of either of those though. And the reason for that is I worked at it.
There's no magic simple A-B-C to better battery life, regardless of what rom/kernel/Android version you're running, you have to experiment & try stuff out to find out what works with the way you use the phone/have it setup.
People who complain about battery life & attempt to pin it on the particular Android version they're running tend to have a really poor understanding of 'how it all works', because it isn't that simple as I've said.
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Well, the thing is I don't understand why people update their phones and then complain about battery life if 2.3.6 works fine from what I observe here and there.?
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People can also update their phones because of other reasons than battery life. ICS was the best for me with battery usage, but after JB downgrading isn't an option for me as I would miss to many new features and other additional functions.
The choice is yours to make. If you are satisfied now, I would stick to 2.3.6 if I where you. If you are curious about other versions -newer or older- try those