I fully understand the feature differences between the two roms and I was running CM on my old phone for a year. My question is, do people see a tangible performance gain switching from PW 1.2 (froyo) to a GB MTD rom? I'm interested in speed/smoothness and battery life. I'm new to the fascinate and running the froyo PW rom (overclocked 1200) is pretty fast.
thanks
xzjn9p said:
I fully understand the feature differences between the two roms and I was running CM on my old phone for a year. My question is, do people see a tangible performance gain switching from PW 1.2 (froyo) to a GB MTD rom? I'm interested in speed/smoothness and battery life. I'm new to the fascinate and running the froyo PW rom (overclocked 1200) is pretty fast.
thanks
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would you rather have functionability/reliability vs. speed/options/full customization? If so powerwashed is for you.
xzjn9p said:
I fully understand the feature differences between the two roms and I was running CM on my old phone for a year. My question is, do people see a tangible performance gain switching from PW 1.2 (froyo) to a GB MTD rom? I'm interested in speed/smoothness and battery life. I'm new to the fascinate and running the froyo PW rom (overclocked 1200) is pretty fast.
Battery life is about half on GB. Also Gps doesn't work very well if at all.
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Battery life is about half on GB. Also Gps doesn't work very well if at all.
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That is useful information. GPS is a must. Since I think the froyo rom is snappy enough sounds like switching to GB MTD would be less battery and worse GPS.
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That is useful information. GPS is a must. Since I think the froyo rom is snappy enough sounds like switching to GB MTD would be less battery and worse GPS.
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I agree that battery and gps is better on pw froyo...although pw gingerbread is snappier with just as good gps, but it does give up a little more battery life.
The issues I commonly see reported with mtd roms is:camera, gps, and sometimes 3g data speeds. It seems some folks dont mind the trade off for the glitch kernal that allows overclocking up to 1700mhz, getting some crazy benchmark numbers on untutu. Sorry if you thought my first post was unuseful, was just trying to sum it up since this has been a popular topic lately.
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I fully understand the feature differences between the two roms and I was running CM on my old phone for a year. My question is, do people see a tangible performance gain switching from PW 1.2 (froyo) to a GB MTD rom? I'm interested in speed/smoothness and battery life. I'm new to the fascinate and running the froyo PW rom (overclocked 1200) is pretty fast.
thanks
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If camera, gps, 3g signal, flashlight, call -speaker volume, a working SD card, a reliable phone are not important to you then go with an mtd Rom.
With PWGB, adrenaline shot and the new TKSGB kernel we have nothing to envy from mtd. Give them a try and you'll see
SCH-I500 PWGB 2. 0b3 TKSGB 9-27, shot v8.5, honeycomb v 2
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If camera, gps, 3g signal, flashlight, call -speaker volume, a working SD card, a reliable phone are not important to you then go with an mtd Rom.
SCH-I500 PWGB 2. 0b3 TKSGB 9-27, shot v8.5, honeycomb v 2
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Wtf are you talking about? Troll.
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If camera, gps, 3g signal, flashlight, call -speaker volume, a working SD card, a reliable phone are not important to you then go with an mtd Rom.
With PWGB, adrenaline shot and the new TKSGB kernel we have nothing to envy from mtd. Give them a try and you'll see
SCH-I500 PWGB 2. 0b3 TKSGB 9-27, shot v8.5, honeycomb v 2
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You must not have read my response in the other thread where you said "all aosp roms have issues" cause you just keep spiting out uneducated nonsense.
good day.
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If camera, gps, 3g signal, flashlight, call -speaker volume, a working SD card, a reliable phone are not important to you then go with an mtd Rom.
With PWGB, adrenaline shot and the new TKSGB kernel we have nothing to envy from mtd. Give them a try and you'll see
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And what version of mtd AOSP did you use to be able to make those completely false claims?
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If camera, gps, 3g signal, flashlight, call -speaker volume, a working SD card, a reliable phone are not important to you then go with an mtd Rom.
With PWGB, adrenaline shot and the new TKSGB kernel we have nothing to envy from mtd. Give them a try and you'll see
SCH-I500 PWGB 2. 0b3 TKSGB 9-27, shot v8.5, honeycomb v 2
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You obviously have 0 idea of what in the hell you're talking about. Get back on your medication bro, and stop spouting a bunch of garbage to these newer members.
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If camera, gps, 3g signal, flashlight, call -speaker volume, a working SD card, a reliable phone are not important to you then go with an mtd Rom.
With PWGB, adrenaline shot and the new TKSGB kernel we have nothing to envy from mtd. Give them a try and you'll see
SCH-I500 PWGB 2. 0b3 TKSGB 9-27, shot v8.5, honeycomb v 2
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Congratulations on listing all the problems mtd used to have. Since you clearly have your head up your ass, we, the real users, implore you to stick with touchjizz.
xzjn9p said:
I fully understand the feature differences between the two roms and I was running CM on my old phone for a year. My question is, do people see a tangible performance gain switching from PW 1.2 (froyo) to a GB MTD rom? I'm interested in speed/smoothness and battery life. I'm new to the fascinate and running the froyo PW rom (overclocked 1200) is pretty fast.
thanks
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There is an absolutely HUGE difference between AOSP mtd and any form of TW. AOSP mtd puts all iterations of TW to shame as far as performance and speed and smoothness. If you're a prius type guy, stay on TW. But if you're a suped up mustang/corvette type guy, flash VGB/Pool Party or any mtd rom for that matter. And be careful who you take advice from in these forums. Some dipsh**s have no clue as to what they are saying. Just look at the list of people who responded to that crap post that guy made. It's a bunch of people who have been doing this for a while. Trust us.
@chopperthedog @jt 1134 @times -infinity. My most sincere apologies. I should have not let my bias for TW affect me in writing such a mean spirited, sarcastic comment. Just because I had bad experiences with mtd (cm7, miui, vgb) , I shouldn't discredit your hard, awesome work like that.
I still stand by my preference, specially after TKSGB, but I will refrain from criticizing your work and will remove my original post accordingly.
Nothing but respect for you guys.
Edit: or I could leave the post as punishment, you guys let me know.
SCH-I500 PWGB 2. 0b3 TKSGB 9-27, shot v8.5, honeycomb v 2
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There is an absolutely HUGE difference between AOSP mtd and any form of TW. AOSP mtd puts all iterations of TW to shame as far as performance and speed and smoothness. If you're a prius type guy, stay on TW. But if you're a suped up mustang/corvette type guy, flash VGB/Pool Party or any mtd rom for that matter. And be careful who you take advice from in these forums. Some dipsh**s have no clue as to what they are saying. Just look at the list of people who responded to that crap post that guy made. It's a bunch of people who have been doing this for a while. Trust us.
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Yes I agree...mtd blows tw rfs/ext.4 roms away from a performance standpoint no doubt. I hope none of you guys that I have learned ALOT from take my posts the wrong way. Soon as the last minor issues are fixed I definately will be switching back. Again the only reason I recomend tw roms such as pw froyo/gingerbread for "new" users is because they are super easy to flash and everything woks as if it was "stock" per say. Im just trying to help keep all the "Help I flashed cm7 and now boot looped because Im a noob that wants to be spoon fed" clutter down...but that will never happen I suppose. It actually sucks not seeing you guys post on here much anymore. I have leaned so much from you fellas...and I still hae plenty to learn. Take care and don't let one persons opinion get ya rattled. I highly doubt it will have any affect on folks perspective towards mtd roms.
I have been having awesome luck with the PWGB. With the new voodoo kernels available, I wouldn't use anything else.
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Yes I agree...mtd blows tw rfs/ext.4 roms away from a performance standpoint no doubt. I hope none of you guys that I have learned ALOT from take my posts the wrong way. Soon as the last minor issues are fixed I definately will be switching back. Again the only reason I recomend tw roms such as pw froyo/gingerbread for "new" users is because they are super easy to flash and everything woks as if it was "stock" per say. Im just trying to help keep all the "Help I flashed cm7 and now boot looped because Im a noob that wants to be spoon fed" clutter down...but that will never happen I suppose. It actually sucks not seeing you guys post on here much anymore. I have leaned so much from you fellas...and I still hae plenty to learn. Take care and don't let one persons opinion get ya rattled. I highly doubt it will have any affect on folks perspective towards mtd roms.
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I hear what you are saying. And yes, a TW rom probably is better for a person new to flashing/modding. But he was asking about performance, speed, smoothness and battery life. And ALL of those are astronomically better on mtd than tw. Also, to answer your question, the reason you don't see "said" people posting here anymore is because "said" people are mtd developers and users. And the mtd development, for the most part, has moved to that "other" site. There is only tw development, for the most part, on xda now for the fascinate. Fascinate development has evolved to mtd yaffs2/ext4, a superior filesystem/partition layout. It has evolved to GB and a .35 kernel. Why take a step backwards in development? We started developing on tw because that's all we had. Now, we have something much better. To continue doing any kind of development on tw would be like going back to recording music on cassette tapes instead of mp3 players and even cd's.
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I hear what you are saying. And yes, a TW rom probably is better for a person new to flashing/modding. But he was asking about performance, speed, smoothness and battery life. And ALL of those are astronomically better on mtd than tw. Also, to answer your question, the reason you don't see "said" people posting here anymore is because "said" people are mtd developers and users. And the mtd development, for the most part, has moved to that "other" site. There is only tw development, for the most part, on xda now for the fascinate. Fascinate development has evolved to mtd yaffs2/ext4, a superior filesystem/partition layout. It has evolved to GB and a .35 kernel. Why take a step backwards in development? We started developing on tw because that's all we had. Now, we have something much better. To continue doing any kind of development on tw would be like going back to recording music on cassette tapes instead of mp3 players and even cd's.
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I do not expect the devs to take a step back lol ... why did mtd development leave xda? The only reason Im on TW still is because this is my only phone and I need everything to work. no disrespect but once cm7/aosp is a final build with everything functioning, then it will be my daily rom.
My battery life is usually better on AOSP roms. GPS works great in AOSP roms too, now running ED05 modem and JTs 912 Kernel and my GPS has locked in under 5 seconds since the update every time now. GPS worked fine before that too just not quite as fast to lock as it is now. I've been using AOSP roms for quite a while, even stable enough for the wife's phone.
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So I have the Aria... I'm using it as a secondary phone.. got unlocked so when I travel internationally I can use it with foreign SIMs and not carry my Inspire...
I'm trying to decide between ROMs and I am curious what your opinion is for the best for me. On the Inspire I tried the Gingerbread rom, but the battery life was no good... is that an issue with the Aria Gingerbread Rom (CM7?) As well?
I tried liberated, but there are several and I can't really tell the difference between them. Ideally I want the BEST possible battery life, performance is less imperative as I'm only using it for a couple apps\phone calls when I am abroad.
Please advise. Thanks as always!
bella92108 said:
So I have the Aria... I'm using it as a secondary phone.. got unlocked so when I travel internationally I can use it with foreign SIMs and not carry my Inspire...
I'm trying to decide between ROMs and I am curious what your opinion is for the best for me. On the Inspire I tried the Gingerbread rom, but the battery life was no good... is that an issue with the Aria Gingerbread Rom (CM7?) As well?
I tried liberated, but there are several and I can't really tell the difference between them. Ideally I want the BEST possible battery life, performance is less imperative as I'm only using it for a couple apps\phone calls when I am abroad.
Please advise. Thanks as always!
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Depends on what is important to you.
CM7 is very nice and a lot of work has gone into it and it feels really nice.
FR008 is also very nice and keeps the HTC Sense feel.
Nutshell69 said:
Depends on what is important to you.
CM7 is very nice and a lot of work has gone into it and it feels really nice.
FR008 is also very nice and keeps the HTC Sense feel.
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Well as I said, battery is the utmost importance, but with Inspire's Gingerbread ROM it lost a lot of battery since it was a poorly ported ROM... is this the case with CM7?
And what do you mean with FR008? Is that the Liberated 2.2.2?
bella92108 said:
Well as I said, battery is the utmost importance, but with Inspire's Gingerbread ROM it lost a lot of battery since it was a poorly ported ROM... is this the case with CM7?
And what do you mean with FR008? Is that the Liberated 2.2.2?
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Battery life with CM7 is great. You don't have to worry about it.
FR008 is Liberated Froyo 2.2 while Liberated 2.2.2 is like the name says the version 2.2.2 of Froyo. Battery life with Liberated 2.2.2 is beyond great. I personally use that rom and if you ask me, I wouldn't change it for any other.
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Battery life with CM7 is great. You don't have to worry about it.
FR008 is Liberated Froyo 2.2 while Liberated 2.2.2 is like the name says the version 2.2.2 of Froyo. Battery life with Liberated 2.2.2 is beyond great. I personally use that rom and if you ask me, I wouldn't change it for any other.
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Cool, yeah I'm on the Lib 2.2.2 ... I just like some of the GUI on the Gingerbread OS... hehe... why do you not go to Ginger? Isn't it better to have the latest OS?
Battery life on CM7 is awful.
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Battery life with CM7 is great.
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Nice...
tribestros said:
Battery life on CM7 is awful.
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Not Nice...
So now I'm confused... if someone said it was alright, the other said it was a little bad, I'd feel like it was in the middle, but one person said CM7 is great, and the other said it's awful... so which is it?
Who'd the credible one? lol.
Its not bad honestly I can get the same amount of usage as if I am on liberated 2.2.2
Signatures are fancy.
Moh_Jay said:
Its not bad honestly I can get the same amount of usage as if I am on liberated 2.2.2
Signatures are fancy.
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Cool, thanks for affirming that, that's what I was hoping to hear.
Just out of curiosity, what do you like about Gingerbread vs Froyo. I notice there's a lot of opinions, and some of the visuals are similar, but it seems CM7 doesn't have sense, but besides that, what are your opinions?
Cm7 running stock clock speeds blows my fr008 (stock CPU speed) battery life away.never ran 2.2 overclocked so I can't compare that.çm7 with CPU oc'ed to 806 gives me close to what I had on 2.2 default clock speed.
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Cm7 running stock clock speeds blows my fr008 (stock CPU speed) battery life away.never ran 2.2 overclocked so I can't compare that.çm7 with CPU oc'ed to 806 gives me close to what I had on 2.2 default clock speed.
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Nice. That's perfect for me since I wont OC either. Thanks!
If you look on the CM7 threads, some have massive battery life issues. FR008 has bad life, but 2.2.2 has great battery life; that's an exact port of the AT&T upgrade.
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I used 2.2.2 for a while and I can say that I don't like the lag that comes with sense(updating Widgets, small things like that); stock android just seems smoother + it has more customization and useful features (easier copy and paste, better keyboard, app management, accurate battery meter)
Signatures are fancy.
I cant speak for the Liberated ROMs, but I can say that CM7 has been great as far as battery life for me. I run it overclocked and I still easily get through a day with moderate/heavy usage. So if you dont plan to OC then it should be even better. Another great option is CM6.1 Its Froyo based and I had excellent battery life on that ROM as well.
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If you look on the CM7 threads, some have massive battery life issues. FR008 has bad life, but 2.2.2 has great battery life; that's an exact port of the AT&T upgrade.
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And almost all of those posts seem to have the same name on them, yours.
I'm getting very good battery performance with CM7.
No, not really. I can go through and post every other person who has posted regarding battery life to make you look like a jackass for trying to be cool if you'd like.
Not to mention you've been complaining about Bluetooth non-stop.
Sent from my CM7 Aria
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No, not really. I can go through and post every other person who has posted regarding battery life to make you look like a jackass for trying to be cool if you'd like.
Not to mention you've been complaining about Bluetooth non-stop.
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Uh, If you say so.
I have posted on several different problems that have occurred while I was using the phone to stream music via BT. Not that BT was necessarily a factor in the problem, but when reporting an issue, it's always important to list how the phone was being used when a problem occurs.
And, I did start a thread regarding BT dropouts that appear to be a problem either with CM7 or my particular phone. That remains to be determined, and is a separate issue.
However, unlike you, I've never continued to rant for weeks about my discontent with CM7 over a single issue. Quite the opposite, I'm loving CM7, and only posting my observations to find out if the issues I'm having are just my problem, or whether anyone else is experiencing the same issue, in hopes of finding a resolution. All with the intent of improving and already GREAT product.
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No, not really. I can go through and post every other person who has posted regarding battery life to make you look like a jackass for trying to be cool if you'd like.
Not to mention you've been complaining about Bluetooth non-stop.
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Hey I actually like seeing posts like this guy's.... while some people dismiss it as a rant, that's what I want to hear, because most of the time it's something someone says in a rant that's good or bad where someone else sees it and says "oh that's good" or "oh that's bad" ... So I do appreciate comments, even if it's one person saying something that's not the norm, it only makes the information community better.
Thanks!
CM7 for the Aria is a pretty great choice, especially for the nice Gingerbread features like improved copy/paste and keyboard.
The battery life is pretty great in standby mode, and it only really starts draining quickly when I'm in an area with poor signal (or, of course, if I mess with it compulsively). And there's also currently the issue with GPS direction being incorrect for navigation, but last I heard they're still working on their homegrown GPS libraries.
So if you don't care about the features of Gingerbread/CM7, CM6 is still a great choice and may actually give slightly better battery life. Personally, the extra features are worth the risk to me.
Cm6 FTW! Still the most stable for me
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Now call me ignorant, but I don't really know what these have advantages over others like froyo roms (UKB 2.1) I flashed MIUIWIZ last night and am absolutely loving it but I'm curious to know the pros and cons to each. Can anybody help?
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Now call me ignorant, but I don't really know what these have advantages over others like froyo roms (UKB 2.1) I flashed MIUIWIZ last night and am absolutely loving it but I'm curious to know the pros and cons to each. Can anybody help?
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Well first of all, CM7 and MIUI are AOSP roms. Everything else for the fascinate up to date is based on TouchWiz. TouchWiz is samsung's way of giving us all the shaft. It's samsung's GARBAGE proprietary code. AOSP (android open source project) is pure Google android code. TouchWiz is completely inferior to AOSP in performance, smoothness, speed, battery life, customization etc. etc. The ONLY thing TW has over AOSP is complete functionality. But, even that is about to change once jt1134 or navenedrob get mms working on AOSP. AOSP is simply a better and frankly more enjoyable user experience. But, I give credit to TSM for making TW bearable with their awesome roms and builds.
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In my experience with ComRom2.1 vs the latest cm7, you get better battery life with cm7 and Netflix works. Both are fast and, frankly, I was getting pretty good battery life with ComRom (but not as good as cm7). Even though cm7 is getting more polished, sound still doesn't come out of the Samsung car dock, volume through rear-speaker and ear-speaker is low, and picture messaging doesn't work.
Don't forget that CM7 is also based off of 2.3 gingerbread so you have all of the 2.3 bonuses.
From what I have learned in reading, flashing, testing, and using is that TW is not the mass murderer that many people make it out to be. If you are a developer you will absolutely hate it for many reasons I don't care to understand.
CM7 in its current form (as many have stated) is not complete though the large CM7 gorilla in the room has been exchanged for a small small monkey. MMS is about all that doesn't function correctly which, depending on who you talk to, is not a big deal. Personally I have people mms my email and it works the exact same.
GPS, call volume, and sensors where the CM7 deal breaker for me but with patients we have seen them all disappear. In a few weeks it will be in its early beta stages without a doubt.
So the short version
TouchWiz = Samsungs *****
AOSP = Nobodies *****
Thanks everyone for your input! This has been very helpful. I think I'm going to try out CM7 right now and post my feedback ITT as well. Thanks again for the great breakdown everyone!
*edit* Also, I know this must have been asked a thousand times, but can someone link me to a walkthrough of how to install CM7?
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Thanks everyone for your input! This has been very helpful. I think I'm going to try out CM7 right now and post my feedback ITT as well. Thanks again for the great breakdown everyone!
*edit* Also, I know this must have been asked a thousand times, but can someone link me to a walkthrough of how to install CM7?
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Installing cm7 is the normal routine. Go to jt1134's cm7 thread, at the bottom of his post he has attached the proper cwm to use. Install one of those, wipe data/cache/dalvik and then flash the rom. The phone will automatically reboot after flashing it. Once it boots up, boot back into recovery and flash gapps and then reboot. Enjoy!
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Installing cm7 is the normal routine. Go to jt1134's cm7 thread, at the bottom of his post he has attached the proper cwm to use. Install one of those, wipe data/cache/dalvik and then flash the rom. The phone will automatically reboot after flashing it. Once it boots up, boot back into recovery and flash gapps and then reboot. Enjoy!
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Thank you sir! Currently running CM7 and loving it.
Hey Everyone,
I have been running ComRom 2.1 on my Fassy. I had to get mine replaced as it was having too many hardware based issues. Now it is sadly fully stocked. I was going to go back to ComRom 2.1 but saw that CM7 is now fixed and functional. I ran CM6 on my OG Droid. I loved it on that phone.
I am just looking to hear from anyone that has ran both and what they liked or disliked about either.
I'm not looking to start a war of what's better. I'm only looking for a comparison of the two as well as which is working better for folks.
Thanks!
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Hey Everyone,
I have been running ComRom 2.1 on my Fassy. I had to get mine replaced as it was having too many hardware based issues. Now it is sadly fully stocked. I was going to go back to ComRom 2.1 but saw that CM7 is now fixed and functional. I ran CM6 on my OG Droid. I loved it on that phone.
I am just looking to hear from anyone that has ran both and what they liked or disliked about either.
I'm not looking to start a war of what's better. I'm only looking for a comparison of the two as well as which is working better for folks.
Thanks!
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Well cm7 is gingerbread with an unbelievable GB kernel from the nexus s. It's AOSP as well which is superior in everyway. The only thing that com rom has over cm7 is that it doesn't have the few little annoying bugs that cm7 does. AOSP is pure Google android OS with Cyanogenmod's own custom tweaks added in for performance and customization. Com rom is based on TouchWiz, which is samsung's disgraceful attempt at a codebase, was altered from the original uncut Google AOSP for the sake of financial gain by the proprietor (Samsung). Bottom line, cm7 is a monster of a rom, considered by many to be the best and the elite of all rom's. Com rom is very good in that TSM was able to make it usable. A lot of hard work was pit into it and it's the best TW rom for fascinate.....but it's still touchwiz. Cm7/miui/omfgb/omgb all the way man. Were beginning to do away with TW.
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CM7, and I too used com rom forever, but now I can't go back
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I am going with CM7 to try it out. So far it is insanely smooth and fast. I am about to try out a couple of the kernels to try to find which will work best with my phone.
Thanks for the info all!
Tried CM7 for a couple days, fast and smooth. But went back to ComRom for a couple reasons. First was the camera, the TW camera is just better. Second is video playback. I use my phone as a little TV in bed and the video player and all the other video apps I tried suck compared to the TW video on the ComRom. Another reason was the wifi\3G kept dropping and it wasn't a dealbreaker like the other two but still very annoying.
Both ROMs have their own set of pros and cons.
If you love TW and its TW based apps go for the ComRom. If you could careless about those, then CM7 hands down.
Biggest things I've noticed after switching:
- Better battery life
- Faster
- Smoother
- CM7 Customization is great
Other comments:
- CM7 doesn't really have too many themes yet since it's still fairly new.
IMO I am using CM7 and it works, BUT is no where near as functional as Com Rom.
example:
Livable bugs but they are annoying in CM7:
-No WiFi Tethering
-No in-call volume (biggest deal breaker that is making me want to switch back to Com Rom)
-Proximity sensors do not work!
I was waiting for an update but it looks like CM7 has stopped dev.
Dont get me wrong i love this phone and Thank the developers everyday for their hard work!
The only reason to go with CM7 is to be able to say you have GB on your phone otherwise stick with Com Rom.
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IMO I am using CM7 and it works, BUT is no where near as functional as Com Rom.
example:
Livable bugs but they are annoying in CM7:
-No WiFi Tethering
-No in-call volume (biggest deal breaker that is making me want to switch back to Com Rom)
-Proximity sensors do not work!
I was waiting for an update but it looks like CM7 has stopped dev.
Dont get me wrong i love this phone and Thank the developers everyday for their hard work!
The only reason to go with CM7 is to be able to say you have GB on your phone otherwise stick with Com Rom.
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Looks like the CM7 you were using is an old one. Have you tried the latest CM7?
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Looks like the CM7 you were using is an old one. Have you tried the latest CM7?
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Yes i was on the build 11 with the glitch kernel [glitch kernel was super fast!]
-in call volume was not loud.
- i got an error when turning the wifi tether on
- and you have to push the volume rockers or the power button to hang up the phone.
xwhofarted said:
Yes i was on the build 11 with the glitch kernel [glitch kernel was super fast!]
-in call volume was not loud.
- i got an error when turning the wifi tether on
- and you have to push the volume rockers or the power button to hang up the phone.
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Well, build 11 isn't that old.. but yeah, the call volume is not as loud as it could be, and the screen won't turn back on once you pull the phone away from your face.. but I had no problems with WiFi tether.. my NookColor running CM7 can see and use the AP..
I just installed the 7/24 version... changelog is not out yet.. hope they fixed even more bugs..
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Other comments:
- CM7 doesn't really have too many themes yet since it's still fairly new.
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you must not be looking very hard
I've run both roms, CM7 and the latest ComRom. In everyday use, I can't tell the difference between the two. Honestly. ComRom ran super well, but twice it crashed on me and would only boot to safe mode (where I would endure force-close hell), and I would have a ***** of a time recovering it. After getting fed up with that and no longer trusting ComRom, I switched to CM7.
I haven't really seen the same bugs that other people have. I have no complaints with it on the stock kernel. On the OTB kernel, it was laggy as hell (felt like my roommate's ancient mytouch 3g). On the glitch kernel, it was suuuper smooth, but my battery life was suuuper ****.
So I'm using the stock kernel that comes with CM7. Unfortunately, I got twice the battery life on ComRom (2 days) vs what I get on CM7 (a day if I'm lucky). Of course, YMMV.
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Both ROMs have their own set of pros and cons.
If you love TW and its TW based apps go for the ComRom. If you could careless about those, then CM7 hands down.
Biggest things I've noticed after switching:
- Better battery life
- Faster
- Smoother
- CM7 Customization is great
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- CM7 doesn't really have too many themes yet since it's still fairly new.
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CM7 has MORE themes, just look for CM7 themes /ThemeChooser Here are some
You could always try both for a few days and see how you like them.
I came straight from community rom and no contest. Cm7 is better in literally every way. I especially like the improved GPS and Bluetooth performance. The only drawback Ive seen is its a little too quiet in calls if you're in a particularly loud area. So as long as you aren't a construction worker or a traffic cop, I'd say cm7.
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About CM7 themes: try Android Themes in the Android Development and Hacking forum. You'll find more themes there than a thrift store has used shoes
About call volume - I am running miui 7/22 which has better volume (on its stock kernel) than CM7. The miui theme manager has its own built-in catalog of online themes you can download and apply. Plus, it lets you actually edit your theme, mixing and matching elements from several of your installed themes.
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cool. thanks for the info on themes!
kkennedy22 said:
Cm7 is better in literally every way
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LOL i don't think you meant to use the word Literally.
The sensor doesn't wake the phone when you pull it away from your face! that is literally not better than ANY Froyo ROM or even the sd card eating EC09!
I admit the glitch kernel made it run super smooth, but if you put com rom next to cm7, other than a few skins you really cant tell the two apart.
Like i said the ONLY reason to have CM7 on your phone is to boast you have Gingerbread!
If you disagree that is fine, this is my opinion but i am getting tired of people pumping up CM7, saying it is "hands down the best" when simply it is lacking. It is functional yes but it is maybe 98% functional to any Froyo roms 100% functionality.
I will be very excited to see when CM7 is great, the only thing is all the GREAT devs Left for other phones and i doubt we will see a fantastic GB rom like we did with ComRom's and EF.
Please if you disagree i would love to hear what makes CM7 better than Froyo roms. I would love to hear why everyone is so amped on CM7, I have tried both.
Once again this is only my opinion. PS I LOVE THIS PHONE!
Reasons to try CM7:
1. Continuing support / updates - the community and the Evil Fascination ROMs are probably the last you'll see of touchwiz-based ROMs, as most of our developers have moved on to the Droid Charge or the Incredible 2. CM7, on the other hand, will soon get nightly builds and support from the cyanogenmod team (thanks for all your hard work to get CM7 developed for the Fascinate jt1134!)
2. Themes - easier to apply, greater selection, many of them just done in more detail than those on touchwiz-based on ROMs.
3. Netflix only works on GB.
Reasons Not to Try CM7:
1. In-call audio.
2. In-call audio.
3. In-call audio. Are you seeing a trend here?
Reasons to try MIUI:
1. Miui will also get ongoing support and new releases from andmer (thanks andmer and jt)
2. Themes are even easier to apply than on CM7.
3. In-call audio is a little better than CM7 at this point.
Reasons Not to Try MIUI:
1. In-call audio is still not as good as touchwiz-based ROMs.
2. The look and feel of MIUI is not for everyone.
Bottom Line: it's whatever you want to choose
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skynet11 said:
Bottom Line: it's whatever you want to choose
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I agree 100% try them both and decide for your self
it is all a matter of opinion.
skynet11 said:
Reasons to try CM7:
1. Continuing support / updates - the community and the Evil Fascination ROMs are probably the last you'll see of touchwiz-based ROMs, as most of our developers have moved on to the Droid Charge or the Incredible 2. CM7, on the other hand, will soon get nightly builds and support from the cyanogenmod team (thanks for all your hard work to get CM7 developed for the Fascinate jt1134!)
2. Themes - easier to apply, greater selection, many of them just done in more detail than those on touchwiz-based on ROMs.
3. Netflix only works on GB.
Reasons Not to Try CM7:
1. In-call audio.
2. In-call audio.
3. In-call audio. Are you seeing a trend here?
Reasons to try MIUI:
1. Miui will also get ongoing support and new releases from andmer (thanks andmer and jt)
2. Themes are even easier to apply than on CM7.
3. In-call audio is a little better than CM7 at this point.
Reasons Not to Try MIUI:
1. In-call audio is still not as good as touchwiz-based ROMs.
2. The look and feel of MIUI is not for everyone.
Bottom Line: it's whatever you want to choose
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Actually netflix does work on stock fascinates now.
I really liked cm7 because of it's speed, but that was really it.
Cm7 uses a crappy dialer
Cm7 uses a crappy calendar app
Cm7 doesn't have fully functional proximity sensors
flash only works on the camera not as a flashlight
Camera app is not as good on cm7
Bottom line: I could live with everything but in call audio and proximity sensors. As soon as netflix started working on fascinates I switched back to comm rom 2.1
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My sisters blackberry is crapping out, so i picked her up a fascinate for 70 bucks off of craigslist.
I myself have been using a captivate for the past year and a half, so i know the process of flashing cant be all that different.
My main question is which rom i should put on there. I want something very stable, and something that gets great battery life.
I can say from experience that with my captivate, when i used roms that were ported from other phones (I9000 and CM based roms), the performance was good, but the battery was awful, and i usually ended up with bugs. (for example, im running pinnacle (KH3) right now and my battery life is awesome. I go from 7am to 3pm with some usage and im only down to like 70 percent.)
So what im looking for is a custom GB ROM that gets awesome battery life, and something that she wont come to me and complain about in a few weeks because of some bug. If theres only a froyo rom available that offers what im looking for, then thats fine as well (although not preferred).
tsm pool party with glitch kernel 12 in development forum or 13 from the glitch app provides really good battery. Im currently on vanilla gb v8.1 from rootzwiki with glitch kernel rc13. seems good so far.
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All mtd based roms provide decent battery life...although I got the best battery life with powerwashed froyo w/ imnuts 0808 pbj kernel. I would get a steady 36hrs battery life...with mtd roms I get 16-24hrs, which is plenty imo and the performance is second to none. as dawman said vgb8 is solid, I just don't like the fact the rom has no widgets in the pull down menu. tsm pool party is sweet w/ the live weather app...but for some reason I end up back on cm7. cant really say why, they all are good roms. have not tried miui yet...
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tsm pool party with glitch kernel 12 in development forum or 13 from the glitch app provides really good battery. Im currently on vanilla gb v8.1 from rootzwiki with glitch kernel rc13. seems good so far.
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Whats considered really good? Coming from the captiate forums, people talked about cm7 having good battery, and i just didnt see it. My phone would drain very quickly even when in standby.
Releases intended for captivate, vs I9000 and cm based roms werent even close. I probably would get more than double the battery life with a captivate rom over a cm rom.
This is why im scared to use a rom that isnt intended for fascinate. If it really comes down to it, i think i would rather just use a really good 2.2 rom. On this device, i really dont see much of a difference.
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All mtd based roms provide decent battery life...although I got the best battery life with powerwashed froyo w/ imnuts 0808 pbj kernel. I would get a steady 36hrs battery life...with mtd roms I get 16-24hrs, which is plenty imo and the performance is second to none. as dawman said vgb8 is solid, I just don't like the fact the rom has no widgets in the pull down menu. tsm pool party is sweet w/ the live weather app...but for some reason I end up back on cm7. cant really say why, they all are good roms. have not tried miui yet...
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whats mtd stand for? and is powerwashed based off of an actual fascinate rom? I may end up using 2.2, simply because i personally wont be using the phone, so i need to to be stable and have great battery life.
whats the difference between running cm7.1, and the nightlies?
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Whats considered really good? Coming from the captiate forums, people talked about cm7 having good battery, and i just didnt see it. My phone would drain very quickly even when in standby.
Releases intended for captivate, vs I9000 and cm based roms werent even close. I probably would get more than double the battery life with a captivate rom over a cm rom.
This is why im scared to use a rom that isnt intended for fascinate. If it really comes down to it, i think i would rather just use a really good 2.2 rom. On this device, i really dont see much of a difference.
whats mtd stand for? and is powerwashed based off of an actual fascinate rom? I may end up using 2.2, simply because i personally wont be using the phone, so i need to to be stable and have great battery life.
whats the difference between running cm7.1, and the nightlies?
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aosp,cm7,vgb,miui are all mtd based roms. yes powerwashed is based based off of verizon ed05 froyo
what do you guys think is better than TW that i should try, miui?
Miui was pretty cool. Visually appealing but for me some apps didnt work and battery life sucked. I am using phiremod 2.0. It's a cm7 that in my opinion apart from bionix is the best rom I've tried I get great battery life and its really fast and reliable. I've been on it for about 3 months
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If you want a good quality 2.2, check out Toxic8 or Deranged9. Both excellent ROMs with great support and outstanding battery life.
If you want the latest then ICS Passion is where it is at but make sure you are comfortable flashing ROMs, Odin and bootloaders. Oh and read, read, read.
I've been using ics passion 10.6 its great! no rom gives good battery life for me but this isn't any worse than stock 2.2 battery life
I am new to this stuff, but I flashed Zendroid a few days ago and love it. Super solid, no glitches at all yet. I have 25% battery right now after a full day's use and that never happened on stock. I love it, super clean, super smooth. I can't speak to "better" than bionix as I haven't tried that ROM yet. Just know that Zendroid is awesome.
I was on bionix 1.3.1 and was hesitant to try ics passion but the rom is smoother than I ever imagined.
Ok so I was looking at ics, and there's a ton where can get the best rom and kernels or is there a good site I can read about it?
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Ok so I was looking at ics, and there's a ton where can get the best rom and kernels or is there a good site I can read about it?
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Just look for the "ICS Passion v11" thread in the Development sub-forum. I recommend the stock kernel, only because it lags for me if I use Eugene's. Results may vary though, so you should try both and see which works best for you.
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I think it really depends on the features that you're looking for. Personally, I don't really see the necessity to jump ship to a GB or ICS rom for the Vibrant just yet (if ever). Someone posted a pretty legit list on Fishman's mod noting the differences between Android versions that you should check out to see if updating is worth it for you.
+1 for bionix from me..
ICS Passion v11 is pretty sleek, but since there's no 1080p video recording I may have to revert back to Bionix.
The Vibrant is a better video recorder than my Flip- I'm not sure why they would cripple the video.
360 productions make some great miui roms. I prefer lithium. you could give those a try
I've been using bionix nextgen v2 for a long long time, and it's fantastic but I'd really like to make the jump to a GB rom.
Mainly because I can't stand the fact that my CM7 Nook Color can run apps that my Galaxy S class phone can't.
Only GB ROM I've tried so far was the first stable CM7 version, but no matter what I tried I couldn't get my GPS to work _at all_. Since I actually make use of my GPS on a fairly regular basis I went back to bionix nextgen.
Can anyone recommend GB or ICS roms that have good GPS performance (meaning they don't have that "turn off GPS once and you have to reboot to get it back" issue)? Been browsing through the roms listed in the dev forum, but I'd also like some extremely fresh personal feedback from other users here.
Thanks in advance all.
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I've been using bionix nextgen v2 for a long long time, and it's fantastic but I'd really like to make the jump to a GB rom.
Mainly because I can't stand the fact that my CM7 Nook Color can run apps that my Galaxy S class phone can't.
Only GB ROM I've tried so far was the first stable CM7 version, but no matter what I tried I couldn't get my GPS to work _at all_. Since I actually make use of my GPS on a fairly regular basis I went back to bionix nextgen.
Can anyone recommend GB or ICS roms that have good GPS performance (meaning they don't have that "turn off GPS once and you have to reboot to get it back" issue)? Been browsing through the roms listed in the dev forum, but I'd also like some extremely fresh personal feedback from other users here.
Thanks in advance all.
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Would also like to know whether such ROM (GB with working GPS) exists...
Since my original post above I've switched to ICS Euphoria. It does have the GPS off = reboot to use it problem, but honestly leaving the GPS switched on all the time does not seem to have a serious impact on my battery life vs what I was getting before. In the end I'm fine making that tradeoff in order to be on modern firmware. ICS is _awesome_ and I don't see myself going back.