Why the phone is so damn slow? - Motorola Photon 4G

Hi
Im just wondering...how come such a powerfull phone
Cannot "multi task" with live wallpaper..
When i put LWP the phone become very slow and laggy.
I have here galaxy s and he doing fine with heavy multi task and LWP
As well.
Even with another launchers the problem remains.
does anyone else having the same problem?
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Nope, I run an lwp ..several ones actually. I jump between xda, twitter, facebook, gplus, gmail, corp email and browser all day long and don't have any issues with slow downs. In fact the only time I have ever seen this phone slow down is with the keyboard on occasion in landscape mode.
What lwp are you using. Could just be a crappy coder.
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GUARDIANBD said:
Hi
Im just wondering...how come such a powerfull phone
Cannot "multi task" with live wallpaper..
When i put LWP the phone become very slow and laggy.
I have here galaxy s and he doing fine with heavy multi task and LWP
As well.
Even with another launchers the problem remains.
does anyone else having the same problem?
Sent from my laggy MB855 using XDA App
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No problem here.
Extremely fast!
What do you have installed? Stock? Unlocked? Rooted?

Fast on mine too and smooth!
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Run a memory optimization app, problem solved.

thanks for the replay's m8's
same...the phone become slow when put an Live wallpaper
using stock rom 154_6 rooted.
used the Memory optimization tools but no go...

I have the same issues. I just don't run a lwp any more. I use launcher pro and when.I.open.the app drawer with a lwp, its pretty bad. Same on go launcher.
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I noticed this on my EVO 3d as well but not on my nexus s. So I'm assuming it has to do with the memory hog called sense and blur.
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phyba said:
I have the same issues. I just don't run a lwp any more. I use launcher pro and when.I.open.the app drawer with a lwp, its pretty bad. Same on go launcher.
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Same problem as i have..
By the way have 412mb ram free.

GUARDIANBD said:
Same problem as i have..
By the way have 412mb ram free.
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Either the people in this thread don't know what silky smooth is or their phones are better than ours for some reason. But the display at the sprint store dis the same thing. The stock launcher is already laggy as hell so a lwp makes it non issue on stock launcher. But on any other launcher, there are issues.
My EVO 3d was the same way. Pure vanilla phones seem to do better with lwp...like the LG g2x and nexus s
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And this happens with the stock lwp
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I'm running launcher pro, stock rom, rooted with some build.prop tweaks and I have the same laggy opening of the app drawer. I never contributed it to lwp. After a quick test its only laggy with lwp as the op said. Its not terrible but its not silky smooth either. Everything else is fine.
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GUARDIANBD said:
Hi
Im just wondering...how come such a powerfull phone
Cannot "multi task" with live wallpaper..
When i put LWP the phone become very slow and laggy.
I have here galaxy s and he doing fine with heavy multi task and LWP
As well.
Even with another launchers the problem remains.
does anyone else having the same problem?
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Here's a tip: STOP USING LIVE WALLPAPERS THEY KILL YOUR BATTERY. Also LWP shouldnt slow your phone down if anything it should be faster since lwp keep your cpu clock speed a bit higher.

kennypow3rs said:
Here's a tip: STOP USING LIVE WALLPAPERS THEY KILL YOUR BATTERY. Also LWP shouldnt slow your phone down if anything it should be faster since lwp keep your cpu clock speed a bit higher.
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Anything that requires resources and CPU cycles should slow things down. Albeit how much depends on many factors. Video based apps like live wallpaper especially could be resource intensive.

kennypow3rs said:
Here's a tip: STOP USING LIVE WALLPAPERS THEY KILL YOUR BATTERY. Also LWP shouldnt slow your phone down if anything it should be faster since lwp keep your cpu clock speed a bit higher.
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Dont you mean lower? Higher, in theory, would make it slower because it needs that power to multi-task for whatever reason? But then again, some of my servers run well over 200% and no one complains? Oh well............

dsims7_2000 said:
Dont you mean lower? Higher, in theory, would make it slower because it needs that power to multi-task for whatever reason? But then again, some of my servers run well over 200% and no one complains? Oh well............
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I mean live wallpapers keep the cpu active, you fire up the screen so its already faster than the phone with regular wallpaper because it needs to continuously keep the lwp going? Idk maybe im seeing this wrong......seems like the phone using lwp should be more responsive and able to multitask over the phone with regular wallpaper since the cores have to fire up upon the screen wake.

I use adw ex with no issues.
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cornelious2 said:
I use adw ex with no issues.
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Same here and not had any problems
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Using seeds of life and stock launcher with no problems as of yet other than having to apply the lwp twice to show all the..."seeds"
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You see this phone is just great from the start. The moment you fire it up you just know its a great phone. How the **** anyone can say its slow is behond me. The only phone where I'm not tempted to install a custom rom, on stock with root and I tell you what its a ****ing beauty, end of, final, its just ****ing great
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launcher lag?

My 3devo is very laggy, my evo 4g seemed to handle multi tasking much better. I've been to sprint multiple times about this issue and today they told me it's probably because I'm using a launcher. I've been using launcher pro since way back with my cliq never had any problems. Just wanna know if anyone out there using a launcher is experiencing anything.
I don't like launchers, but whenever I would use any launcher, I found there was little to no lag. I'd have slight lag on occasion, but that's from having too much stuff running.
I use launcher pro and have absolutely no lag at all
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Used to use LP and even paid for it a long with ADW but converted to Go launcher a long time ago. It seems like the go team releases more frequent bug fixes and updates than other launchers.
At least give a few others a shot first. I had the Evo 4g for a little over a year and it's a beast but the 3d does seem to do better.
Ymmv
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uninstall the launcher on the stock htc sense laucher remove ALL widgets icons make sure theres no live wallpaper ect ect then reinstall launcher should fix your problem
The problem is that Sense is a complete RAM hog. You're losing over 400MB from it and its processes alone. Adding another UI skin on top of that is only going to slow things down even more and take up more memory. You should definitely consider an AOSP ROM (I usually have about 600MB of free RAM at most times and absolutely no lag using Trebuchet Launcher on kushdeck's latest ICS alpha. Or you could just root, install an OC kernel and use a CPU governor to overclock your phone (but your battery life will be terrible). I hope this helped a bit, definitely look into the dev section for more info.
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Smoothest Home Screen Yet!

GO Launcher v2.87 Beta.. just came out.. highly recommended!
The last one was great.. but this one takes the smoothness level to a whole new level.
My home screen is cluttered with icons.. but is finally stutter free !
Link: h t tp://golauncher.goforandroid. com/2012/04/go-launcher-v2-87-beta/
V8RWD said:
GO Launcher v2.87 Beta.. just came out.. highly recommended!
The last one was great.. but this one takes the smoothness level to a whole new level.
My home screen is cluttered with icons.. but is finally stutter free !
Link: http://golauncher.goforandroid.com/2012/04/go-launcher-v2-87-beta/
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Just installed. Very smooth indeed.
Do a long press on home screen ... menus are now more GUI as well.
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Super flipping fast!
I still prefer ADW for gingerbread and Apex for ICS roms. Seems like go launcher always sucked extra battery on my devices.
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Love the newest update soooo smooth.
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Wow its definitely a LOT faster on my Note.
The only thing that bugs me is the smooth/slow transition when launching apps. Compared to Apex in which the apps launch very quickly. It's like Go launcher is almost toooo smooth in that respect.
I'll also monitor battery use via "bad assbattery monitor" since the last version definitely used more battery than other launchers.
It is my favorite launcher even though I switched to Apex the last week. I'll give Go another try
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I just installed the beta and I don't notice any difference at all. That being said, go launcher is my favorite Gab launcher and definitely smoother than all of them except touchwiz.
EvoXOhio said:
I just installed the beta and I don't notice any difference at all. That being said, go launcher is my favorite Gab launcher and definitely smoother than all of them except touchwiz.
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Take a read thru the description on the blog, all the changes are there.
Namely, the major change I like is the new method for adding shortcuts, widgets, etc. Long press any empty area on the screen and instead of the ugly menu, a list is displayed at the bottom.
Also, the app drawer (the screen that shows the list of apps) is also much better.
Is it more fluid/smooth/faster? Eh...
It could still be better but its never going to be as smooth as IOS due to how Android works vs IOS. Android physically moves each pixel around on the screen using 'math' to determine where each pixel should be drawn, one pixel at a time, then draws the frame, repeating frame by frame where as IOS uses pre-processed pictures in rapid succession similar to how film on a projector works.
Downloading now can't wait to try it.
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It is smooth. I have noticed some lag coming back to the home screen from go SMS. It takes awhile to populate the icons then its fine.
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Just downloaded beta2 and it seems better. Will see.
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Anyone get choppiness when going into the App Drawer on this? Is there a way to turn off the transition animation altogether?
Don't wanna appear to be hatin on Go launcher, cuz I've used it well over a year. I've got a new fav- SS launcher. Very smooth, highly customizable. Give it a shot!
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Pretty smooth but hate the indicator on the top of screen. Has a gap when removing indicator.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
SKyRocKeting727 said:
Pretty smooth but hate the indicator on the top of screen. Has a gap when removing indicator.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
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There an option to hide or even auto hide the indicator.
Great launcher and extremely smooth.
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Had to go to the beta 2.....beta 1 was a battery HOG
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ChronoReverse said:
Anyone get choppiness when going into the App Drawer on this? Is there a way to turn off the transition animation altogether?
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The app drawer is just as choppy as it ever was. Mine is mostly slow entering the app drawer. I would also be in favor of cutting off the animation all together.
jordant2 said:
The app drawer is just as choppy as it ever was. Mine is mostly slow entering the app drawer. I would also be in favor of cutting off the animation all together.
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I am experiencing no lag on the home screen. The app drawer has a tiny delay opening it but other than that I think it works great. Still waiting for second day of battery testing.
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No Go. After random nonsense with their apps, including dragging phones down to their knees with running logcat hundreds of times in an apparent public debug release, no. Avoid all Go junk.
Plus... ios look? really?
Beta 3 is up. Beta 2 I had no battery issues. Actually go has never given me battery problems to over a year and two phones.
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Consistent Lag When Opening App Drawer

Sense 4.0 is smooth, but I've noticed that the app drawer consistently lags whenever I open it. The only time this doesn't occur is when I open it multiple times in succession. It happened on both stock and rooted roms, even with the dual core mod, power saver off, and charlmeleon Rom ultra smooth Rosie. It's annoying the crap out of me because the rest of the phone is so smooth.Has anyone else experienced this?
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nvedamuthu said:
Sense 4.0 is smooth, but I've noticed that the app drawer consistently lags whenever I open it. The only time this doesn't occur is when I open it multiple times in succession. It happened on both stock and rooted roms, even with the dual core mod, power saver off, and charlmeleon Rom ultra smooth Rosie. It's annoying the crap out of me because the rest of the phone is so smooth.Has anyone else experienced this?
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Yep, happens to me too, and totally agree. It definitely takes away from a mostly very smooth sense experience.
nvedamuthu said:
Sense 4.0 is smooth, but I've noticed that the app drawer consistently lags whenever I open it. The only time this doesn't occur is when I open it multiple times in succession. It happened on both stock and rooted roms, even with the dual core mod, power saver off, and charlmeleon Rom ultra smooth Rosie. It's annoying the crap out of me because the rest of the phone is so smooth.Has anyone else experienced this?
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Weird..I have had mine now since late May and never any lag what so ever. But now I am running fresh 1.0 with Nova launcher, maybe try that setup, I have used the crap out of mine, running hard every day and never a hickup except for last weekend but that was due to east coast storm that knocked out the Telco.
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try settings/developer options and uncheck animations
Yeah I've used apex launcher before, and there was no lag, but I want to have sense. I found a partial fix though. If you change the animation scale to .5x then opening the app drawer is a little more smooth. Hopefully jelly bean will fix this, but I don't plan on waiting for htc's ota update so it probably won't matter to me by then.
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So is apex the smoothest aosp-like launcher? How is trebuchet?
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bballer71418 said:
So is apex the smoothest aosp-like launcher? How is trebuchet?
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Trebuchet is the stock ics launcher, not a third party application.
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Try unchecking don't keep activities, then check 2 app process limit...all under developer options in settings
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Trebuchet is the stock ics launcher, not a third party application.
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I thought Trebuchet was CM9's modified stock launcher?
i noticed this when using chameleon as well...very frustrating. i also noticed a strange lag when opening settings and battery usage. i really liked the chameleon rom because of the options, but yesterday a mostly functional AOKP dropped and ive been using that its SO much better even underclocked to 1ghz.
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Try unchecking don't keep activities, then check 2 app process limit...all under developer options in settings
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This seemed to fix the problem, the app drawer opens smooth as butter now.
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sweet worked better for me also.. thanks manG!!!
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I have a feeling it has to do with the CPU ramping up to par for the system to use it. I know someone said it still lags with dual core mods etc.etc. but isn't our phone running the ondemand governor by default? The CPU could be at 384 on the home screen and then shoot up to 1.5 during the little stutter moment of opening the app drawer. I could be way off on this but that's how I'm understanding it
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New DNA owner - phone feels sluggish

I just got a DNA coming from an s3. I don't know if its me but the phone just feels sluggish at times. For example when I close an app sometimes idyll close and then itll be a few seconds before ally icons pop up. I'm using nova launcher btw.
Just wondering if its just me. Is there anything I can do to fix??
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mpetruzz said:
I just got a DNA coming from an s3. I don't know if its me but the phone just feels sluggish at times. For example when I close an app sometimes idyll close and then itll be a few seconds before ally icons pop up. I'm using nova launcher btw.
Just wondering if its just me. Is there anything I can do to fix??
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Try a different or stock launcher. This phone is fast.
ocman40 said:
Try a different or stock launcher. This phone is fast.
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This.
It actually sounds like nova is getting unloaded from memory. Just use the stock launcher. It's perfect.
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yea i'm using nova launcher cause i like the look of aosp rather than sense and i get some lag sometimes...i just want root and cm 10.1 ^_^
I'll try sense. I like nova cause I can change the icon themes. Any other launchers that work well with the DNA??
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I am using apex and love it. Im also running beastmode at 1.8 and its super smooth.
Coming from Sprint's network and the EVO Shift, this phone rocks stock. It's the first phone I don't feel the NEED to root (But I do want :victory: ). Smooth and fast and beautiful. But HTC Sense is a preference, and the camera is great. I forgot what I was saying...
I'd love to root but it has the latest software, boo!!!
I put sense on and its much better. I'll keep it this way til I get bored and I'll try something else.
Much faster though!!! Thx.
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That's strange about nova and speed. I am currently running nova and its faster than sense for me. I am using viper Rom though so that may make the difference.
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With nova, make sure you change the animation and transition speeds to fast or fastest..
badogg said:
With nova, make sure you change the animation and transition speeds to fast or fastest..
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I have but nova launcher launches sometimes... Its cool. I can deal until I get root
atishpatel2012 said:
I have but nova launcher launches sometimes... Its cool. I can deal until I get root
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It sounds like you're definitely having an issue with the launcher configuration. I've dealt with that before too, but the good thing is sometimes I'll have trouble with nova trying to get the settings dialed in perfect and it still will feel off, and I'll try apex and the stock settings out of the box perform crazy fast and smooth. Or it might be vice versa, but I would tinker with that.
Also, make absolutely sure you aren't restoring your launcher backup or settings or anything that you used on the S3 over to the DNA.
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I have but nova launcher launches sometimes... Its cool. I can deal until I get root
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I'm talking about the settings in the Nova launcher settings, not the ones in developer settings. There are speed settings in Nova launcher's settings that you can tell it to give priority to speed over graphics.
Edit: Found another person's post on another site about it:
To make it even faster go to nova settings, look and feel and change scroll and animation speed to faster than light.
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I'm talking about the settings in the Nova launcher settings, not the ones in developer settings. There are speed settings in Nova launcher's settings that you can tell it to give priority to speed over graphics.
Edit: Found another person's post on another site about it:
To make it even faster go to nova settings, look and feel and change scroll and animation speed to faster than light.
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That does make it feel a little faster but i was saying that nova launcher made my phone unresponsive once.. The button clicks would take few seconds to register.... A reboot fixed it... Thank you. I am trying the faster setting and i like it
I tried adw but went back to nova cause I just am familiar with it.
I changed the settings to faster than light and its way better so far!!
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Check if you have kill all apps when leaving in the developer options. This doesn't play nice with the launcher.
kushmacdaddy said:
Check if you have kill all apps when leaving in the developer options. This doesn't play nice with the launcher.
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I don't recall seeing an option like that.
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I don't recall seeing an option like that.
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there is an option like that (dev options -> advanced -> "Don't keep activites") but i don't have that enabled...idk. i cleared cache with nova launcher and it oddly seems more responsive..
Maybe you just aren't used to sense? Sense has always been known for being a heavier skin. I'm fine with it, however sense 5 is way faster and smoother. Just because the phone doesn't feel fast, doesn't mean it isn't. It is a very quick device.
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I don't know if this thread is dead but for people with this issue in either nova or apex in their respective advanced settings you can make the launcher stay in memory. This brings redraws to nothing on apex for me.
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Force GPU render, where is it?

I know I saw it somewhere in here but can't find the message again. Where is this option, and the rest of the dev options?
Assuming your developer options are still hidden. Go to about phone and tap build number repeatedly until it says it has unlocked developer options. Then you should see that in settings and your force gpu is there.
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Thanks, I knew it was something weird like that.
What do we gain by using force gpu rendering?
RaptorMD said:
What do we gain by using force gpu rendering?
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Only instability in some apps as far as I know, the genie widget for one (news and weather)
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Only instability in some apps as far as I know, the genie widget for one (news and weather)
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So is it worth enabling at all?
JihadSquad said:
So is it worth enabling at all?
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Not unless your running some app that hasn't been updated since ICS and want to eek some more performance out of it. (Like genie widget... Which breaks)
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So is it worth enabling at all?
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Not at all, the S4 does not lag one bit. I would NEVER recommend enabling it, it comes disabled stock for a reason.
People claim to experience "laginess", but this is perceived due to having a 3rd party launcher. Install ANY launcher and look at the delay between tapping an icon and the app actually opening. On the stock launcher, it is INSTANT. Don't know how I managed to go off topic but hope I answered your question.
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Not at all, the S4 does not lag one bit. I would NEVER recommend enabling it, it comes disabled stock for a reason.
People claim to experience "laginess", but this is perceived due to having a 3rd party launcher. Install ANY launcher and look at the delay between tapping an icon and the app actually opening. On the stock launcher, it is INSTANT. Don't know how I managed to go off topic but hope I answered your question.
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This, I use to be a big supporter of a popular launcher but I realized that there is almost always going to be lag with them. Its better to find an awesome ROM and go stock imo.
On the topic of gaming, not all emulators are the same.. I use to use a paid PSX emulator but had to switch to a new Gmail so I had to start over and was using a free PSX emu. While I finally got my S4 2.0 MHL adaptor in from Samsung and was gaming. I see that the performance is a bit laggy and slow (40-43fps). Having done my research and knowing that its not the phone's fault or the adapter, I conclude that its the app so I buy the paid app I use to use (FPse) and boom, 59-60fps consistently

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