New DNA owner - phone feels sluggish - HTC Droid DNA

I just got a DNA coming from an s3. I don't know if its me but the phone just feels sluggish at times. For example when I close an app sometimes idyll close and then itll be a few seconds before ally icons pop up. I'm using nova launcher btw.
Just wondering if its just me. Is there anything I can do to fix??
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mpetruzz said:
I just got a DNA coming from an s3. I don't know if its me but the phone just feels sluggish at times. For example when I close an app sometimes idyll close and then itll be a few seconds before ally icons pop up. I'm using nova launcher btw.
Just wondering if its just me. Is there anything I can do to fix??
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Try a different or stock launcher. This phone is fast.

ocman40 said:
Try a different or stock launcher. This phone is fast.
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This.
It actually sounds like nova is getting unloaded from memory. Just use the stock launcher. It's perfect.
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yea i'm using nova launcher cause i like the look of aosp rather than sense and i get some lag sometimes...i just want root and cm 10.1 ^_^

I'll try sense. I like nova cause I can change the icon themes. Any other launchers that work well with the DNA??
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I am using apex and love it. Im also running beastmode at 1.8 and its super smooth.

Coming from Sprint's network and the EVO Shift, this phone rocks stock. It's the first phone I don't feel the NEED to root (But I do want :victory: ). Smooth and fast and beautiful. But HTC Sense is a preference, and the camera is great. I forgot what I was saying...

I'd love to root but it has the latest software, boo!!!
I put sense on and its much better. I'll keep it this way til I get bored and I'll try something else.
Much faster though!!! Thx.
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That's strange about nova and speed. I am currently running nova and its faster than sense for me. I am using viper Rom though so that may make the difference.
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With nova, make sure you change the animation and transition speeds to fast or fastest..

badogg said:
With nova, make sure you change the animation and transition speeds to fast or fastest..
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I have but nova launcher launches sometimes... Its cool. I can deal until I get root

atishpatel2012 said:
I have but nova launcher launches sometimes... Its cool. I can deal until I get root
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It sounds like you're definitely having an issue with the launcher configuration. I've dealt with that before too, but the good thing is sometimes I'll have trouble with nova trying to get the settings dialed in perfect and it still will feel off, and I'll try apex and the stock settings out of the box perform crazy fast and smooth. Or it might be vice versa, but I would tinker with that.
Also, make absolutely sure you aren't restoring your launcher backup or settings or anything that you used on the S3 over to the DNA.

atishpatel2012 said:
I have but nova launcher launches sometimes... Its cool. I can deal until I get root
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I'm talking about the settings in the Nova launcher settings, not the ones in developer settings. There are speed settings in Nova launcher's settings that you can tell it to give priority to speed over graphics.
Edit: Found another person's post on another site about it:
To make it even faster go to nova settings, look and feel and change scroll and animation speed to faster than light.

badogg said:
I'm talking about the settings in the Nova launcher settings, not the ones in developer settings. There are speed settings in Nova launcher's settings that you can tell it to give priority to speed over graphics.
Edit: Found another person's post on another site about it:
To make it even faster go to nova settings, look and feel and change scroll and animation speed to faster than light.
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That does make it feel a little faster but i was saying that nova launcher made my phone unresponsive once.. The button clicks would take few seconds to register.... A reboot fixed it... Thank you. I am trying the faster setting and i like it

I tried adw but went back to nova cause I just am familiar with it.
I changed the settings to faster than light and its way better so far!!
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Check if you have kill all apps when leaving in the developer options. This doesn't play nice with the launcher.

kushmacdaddy said:
Check if you have kill all apps when leaving in the developer options. This doesn't play nice with the launcher.
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I don't recall seeing an option like that.

orangechoochoo said:
I don't recall seeing an option like that.
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there is an option like that (dev options -> advanced -> "Don't keep activites") but i don't have that enabled...idk. i cleared cache with nova launcher and it oddly seems more responsive..

Maybe you just aren't used to sense? Sense has always been known for being a heavier skin. I'm fine with it, however sense 5 is way faster and smoother. Just because the phone doesn't feel fast, doesn't mean it isn't. It is a very quick device.
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I don't know if this thread is dead but for people with this issue in either nova or apex in their respective advanced settings you can make the launcher stay in memory. This brings redraws to nothing on apex for me.
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How many apps have you already installed in the Note?

Just curious, how many you have installed?
Mine is 68 in Google play market and the total is 215 with Titanium Backup Display (include system apps.). Not sure that many of apps are slowing my Note down.
26 user apps, 169 total including system apps. I'm running TPC v2, Da_G's PC kernel @ 1.83 GHz, and all bloat removed. No lag whatsoever, my phone is fast as hell.
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According to Appbrain..
Apps: 211 total, 176 free (83%), 35 paid (16%)
TiBu says "384 elements" whatever that means.
welchertc said:
...No lag whatsoever, my phone is fast as hell.
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not what i want to hear since I'm trying to stick w/stock setup.
186 phone is effin fast!
andrawer said:
not what i want to hear since I'm trying to stick w/stock setup.
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Mine is stock rooted, I have no lag... I switched to Launcher Pro though, although I was kind of liking CheeseWhiz's launcher, it's not really that bad but the fact that folders in the apptray and folders in the launcher desktop were completely separate pissed me off.. In hindsight if I really wanted to use CheeseWhiz I could have just put all of the apps I want to hide in one folder and not otherwise had folders in the apptray, but I spent 30 minutes or so organizing apps in folders in my apptray only to find out you couldn't put those folder on the desktop then. WTF?
40 apps not more!
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not what i want to hear since I'm trying to stick w/stock setup.
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Oh yeah, forgot to mention that I'm using ADW EX for my launcher as well, which can do a lot for reducing lag if you have any. My phone didn't have lag anyways before I went away from stock, I just like being able to flash stuff and mess with my phone. Also, more importantly than the national increase in performance, rooting allows me to mod my phone's theme much more with custom status bar icons and such using UOT kitchen. Any reason you're staying stock?
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260 to date and counting...
No lag on mine.
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Oh yeah, forgot to mention that I'm using ADW EX for my launcher as well, which can do a lot for reducing lag if you have any. My phone didn't have lag anyways before I went away from stock, I just like being able to flash stuff and mess with my phone. Also, more importantly than the national increase in performance, rooting allows me to mod my phone's theme much more with custom status bar icons and such using UOT kitchen. Any reason you're staying stock?
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No lag in ADW EX? You must have very few icons, folders, and Widgets on your device. I found ADW EX really jittery, especially with the fancy folders on. Even disabling that, it was jittery. I eventually just went back to Launcher Pro.
300+...been keeping since my Evo days
have try thousands but most are junk so i uninstall
just need one more app to make perfect.....that app that makes your camera flash when you receive a text or call....does anyone know of any that works for the note?
two thumps up to app brain
khaytsus said:
No lag in ADW EX? You must have very few icons, folders, and Widgets on your device. I found ADW EX really jittery, especially with the fancy folders on. Even disabling that, it was jittery. I eventually just went back to Launcher Pro.
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I only ever use one home screen with 5 apps and one minimalistic text widget. That being said, adding more screens and populating them did not show any lag still, and my app drawer is totally smooth and opens instantly as well. Who knows, maybe your device doesn't like ADW EX?
I don't like having more than one home screen, because I don't use a ton of widgets, and I only have a handful of apps I use often. everything else can go in my app drawer.
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Everything goes in my app drawer I dont have a single icon not on my launcher or app drawer. Only 3 widgets too. Facebook, time/weather, and google voice widget.
Eric-1987 said:
Everything goes in my app drawer I dont have a single icon not on my launcher or app drawer. Only 3 widgets too. Facebook, time/weather, and google voice widget.
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I don't have any icons on my home page either. I use swipe pad for favorite apps.
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I did this on my S2 but i forgot. How you lock the one home screen steady? (not move back and forth?)
losplatanos said:
300+...been keeping since my Evo days
have try thousands but most are junk so i uninstall
just need one more app to make perfect.....that app that makes your camera flash when you receive a text or call....does anyone know of any that works for the note?
two thumps up to app brain
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Did u find the app yet?
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not what i want to hear since I'm trying to stick w/stock setup.
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Im totally stock, non rooted and see no lag, have all the bloatware still in and have install about 6 more.
I have loads of apps installed. It doesn't seem to be slower bit both quadrant and antutu get slower results each time I add an app AND I definitely notice battery performance degrades as I add more apps.
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I have loads of apps installed. It doesn't seem to be slower bit both quadrant and antutu get slower results each time I add an app AND I definitely notice battery performance degrades as I add more apps.
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I starting uninstall apps that i never used hope to boost the battery life
I have abut 120. OT: ADW EX is super laggy for me.

[Q] Apex and Nova lag?

I notice with the GS3, Apex and Nova both show signs of a shutter type lag while swiping through screens. Anyone notice this as well? I have another buddy with a Verizon version and his also does it. I know I didn't see this type of lag on my E4GT and he doesn't see it on his gnex. I would assume that the additional gig of ram would help keep things smooth as can be but I'm just not seeing it. Other observations, there isn't any lag in tw launcher, tsf shell or even in the actual app drawer in Apex. So I'm just curious why we are seeing this or is there a fix? Thanks for looking.
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I noticed this as well. It was more noticeable in Nova though.
I use Apex with card stack homescreen scrolling and a min. scroll time of 40, and it's barely noticeable now.
I suspect resolution and caching are to blame, but not sure if there's a fix...
Did you check keep in memory under advance settings? It seems to help.
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radeon_x said:
I noticed this as well. It was more noticeable in Nova though.
I use Apex with card stack homescreen scrolling and a min. scroll time of 40, and it's barely noticeable now.
I suspect resolution and caching are to blame, but not sure if there's a fix...
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Yeah, if I set the scroll speed to a faster setting, it definitely makes it not noticeable but then the animation isn't as cool. Kinda disappointing since apex is my favorite.
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In Nova, if you set scroll speed to faster than light and turn power saving off, smooth as butta!
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In Nova, if you set scroll speed to faster than light and turn power saving off, smooth as butta!
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Exactly... kinda ...not sure I even did all that but nova had very noticeable lag... apex was smooth as hell out of the box...
Completely stock phone
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I see lag in every launcher on every ROM I've tried. Nova, Apex, TW all lag somewhat at one point or another. Sometimes they're smooth, other times they're laggy. I'm hoping Jelly Bean will improve things. The CM10 beta seems a lot smoother.
Maybe give go launcher ex a try. Barely lags for me and only when I wake up the phone and not all the time. I use stack transition. Using default, cube in, wave, are also super smooth.
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aznmode said:
Maybe give go launcher ex a try. Barely lags for me and only when I wake up the phone and not all the time. I use stack transition. Using default, cube in, wave, are also super smooth.
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Yeah, was an avid go user for a long time. There were things that I just started to dislike.
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that's weird to me.. I'm on stock (not rooted) running Apex with minimum scrolling time set to 25 (cube out transition) and there is absolutely no lag whatsoever. On any transition type, I just tried several.
I'm usually the first person to jump on lag if present, and I can honestly say I see none on my GS3. T-Mobile.
I only notice it with power save mode on.
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ingenious247 said:
that's weird to me.. I'm on stock (not rooted) running Apex with minimum scrolling time set to 25 (cube out transition) and there is absolutely no lag whatsoever. On any transition type, I just tried several.
I'm usually the first person to jump on lag if present, and I can honestly say I see none on my GS3. T-Mobile.
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Right, but set at 20 and you will barely see the animation. I'm running jb right now and it does the same. Oh well, may just have to deal with it.
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Yep, laggy somewhat
Lag is very noticeable for me in both Nova and TW launchers. Nova has "faster than light" animation speed as well as no animation - these help.
I'm hoping JB from CM or Samsung will fix those kiddy issues.

Does anybody use Go Launcher?

I'm using Go Launcher right now, and I'm pretty satisfied. Is there any better theme app than this? what apps do you use for your theme?
I really like go sms pro and a few others They make a lot of decent apps, all highly customizable. I used go launcher before I got CM9. As for others? Idk.
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I used Go with my Droid X and Liberty and loved it. Since this is my first HTC I've been giving sense a try, but the thing that drives me nuts is the home screen only sits vertical, where as Go works either or.
I never did theme mine, the craziest i got was enabling some of the cool page transition graphics. I'm starting to lean toward Go again, esp if i can get the sense clock/weather 4x1 widget. I have to say i love that thing a lot.
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I used Go with my Droid X and Liberty and loved it. Since this is my first HTC I've been giving sense a try, but the thing that drives me nuts is the home screen only sits vertical, where as Go works either or.
I never did theme mine, the craziest i got was enabling some of the cool page transition graphics. I'm starting to lean toward Go again, esp if i can get the sense clock/weather 4x1 widget. I have to say i love that thing a lot.
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Being only vertical is what drives me nuts about Sense. If there was a way for the homescreen to be auto orientation, then Sense would be all I need.
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I have tried Go Launcher, but I don't like the menu bar on bottom eating up my screen space.
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elvee68 said:
I have tried Go Launcher, but I don't like the menu bar on bottom eating up my screen space.
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Same with me, that's a waste of space. Apex launcher doesn't have that black menu bar. Not sure about other launchers.
I used it in the past but found it "choppier" then other options. ADWLauncher EX is my go-to nowadays. never had a problem with it.
I'm trying it right now. It seems to be the only one that I can find that offers a 5 column app drawer and allows resizable widgets for free.
It seems pretty fast, there is choppiness every now and then but that is usually when I'm running other stuff at the same time.
The biggest downside is the Honeycomb menu bar. I emailed the developer about this issue, hopefully they will take care of it since it is a fairly simple fix. If some of you like it too (except for the menu bar), I'd encourage you to email them and complain. The more complaints the higher the chances of a fix. [email protected]
I tried most launchers and the one i like the most is Nova Launcher.
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+1 for Nova
i used to use go launcher for a long time but im really diggin apex launcher nowadays.

Lock screen shortcuts are gone.

Lost my lock screen shortcuts and can't get them back. Box is checked in "personalize" settings. Any ideas?
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Try changing an icon in your dock.
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Zippernuts said:
Lost my lock screen shortcuts and can't get them back. Box is checked in "personalize" settings. Any ideas?
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Are you completely stock, or have you changed ROMs/kernals/themes?
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Try changing an icon in your dock.
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That didn't work either, I'm completely stock.
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Zippernuts said:
That didn't work either, I'm completely stock.
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Hmmm. Here's what I would try next, just for the hell of it: remove all of your icons from your dock and from your main home screen. Change your wallpaper to something else stock. Reboot. Put one normal, everyday (like the phone dialer or people, etc) icon/shortcut - not a widget - in your dock. Reboot. Check lockscreen. See your shortcut?
HTH!
Try going to personalize under settings and go to lock screen. There should be options for different lock screen options.
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Try going to personalize under settings and go to lock screen. There should be options for different lock screen options.
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I tried that as well I guess they are gone forever.
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What did you install before this happened? You said you are stock, but are you rooted? Delete anything? This wouldn't just disappear without either clicking that setting off, or deleting something you shouldn't have.
I know you said stock... but did you install a different launch.. ie Nova, Apex... etc. and stop/freeze sense. When i did that i lost the lockscreen apps. Kinda sucks but sense needs to be running to have those, regardless of using it or not.... Good luck
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I know you said stock... but did you install a different launch.. ie Nova, Apex... etc. and stop/freeze sense. When i did that i lost the lockscreen apps. Kinda sucks but sense needs to be running to have those, regardless of using it or not.... Good luck
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I'm using nova, still stock No root. I'll try sense and see if they come back them.
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FlyingCaveman said:
I know you said stock... but did you install a different launch.. ie Nova, Apex... etc. and stop/freeze sense. When i did that i lost the lockscreen apps. Kinda sucks but sense needs to be running to have those, regardless of using it or not.... Good luck
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You're right man, switched to sense and they came back. Thanks, just have to decide if it's worth it now, really like nova. Thanks a million.
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Zippernuts said:
You're right man, switched to sense and they came back. Thanks, just have to decide if it's worth it now, really like nova. Thanks a million.
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Lockscreen shortcuts are the icons in the sense dock. Even if you are running nova it will pull them from the sense dock.
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Yeah keep nova installed and just make sure sense is running... A little waste of memory, but with 2gb you'll never notice.
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Yeah keep nova installed and just make sure sense is running... A little waste of memory, but with 2gb you'll never notice.
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The only thing that sucks is that too change the shortcuts i have to enable sense to change them. Then switch back to nova.
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With this you can remove Rosie and still have the shortcuts I think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1874278
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The only thing that sucks is that too change the shortcuts i have to enable sense to change them. Then switch back to nova.
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Don't disable Sense. As far as enabling it to change the dock, just go into Nova settings and use the "Default launcher" button towards the bottom. Go to Sense, "Just Once" and set your dock. Hit the Home button and click Nova, "Always". Done.
same prob with htc one
i installed xposer installer and sense 5 tool box and everything was fine. but the next day i decided to re install my ARHD Rom to get rid of the mods had done before and then, my lockscreen apps were gone and widgets on lockscreen are not working...
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i installed xposer installer and sense 5 tool box and everything was fine. but the next day i decided to re install my ARHD Rom to get rid of the mods had done before and then, my lockscreen apps were gone and widgets on lockscreen are not working...
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I think you're in the wrong forum, the Droid DNA doesn't have an ARHD rom.

Anyone running other than stock launcher

I'm running Nova and if you goto system settings under hide nav buttons in certain programs and chose your launcher it makes your home screen so much better/bigger.
Still using stock launcher.
I like it. The only thing I wish I could use would be the Google Now page, and reduce the number of homescreens I have.
Just make a "zoom out" motion with your fingers on the home screen.
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Epic Launcher
Solo launcher. It has the double tap off screen and Ok Google.
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Action launcher. 1 uncluttered homescreen. Love the shutters and covers features.
Latest Google Now.
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Google Now+ Xposed+ GELS Module runs amazing on my G3
Nova Prime FTW
Right now, Go Launcher EX, bought the full version and its been running great. They have some awesome themes for it and it runs pretty nice. Going to try Solo launcher as I havent used that one yet, see how that one goes for a while. I switch around a lot and am always trying new Launchers, Nova is my most used Launcher overall though, but I've run a lot over the years
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Right now, Go Launcher EX, bought the full version and its been running great. They have some awesome themes for it and it runs pretty nice. Going to try Solo launcher as I havent used that one yet, see how that one goes for a while. I switch around a lot and am always trying new Launchers, Nova is my most used Launcher overall though, but I've run a lot over the years
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I'm like you. I own pretty much every launcher I've found over the past years.
I own a few launchers, but I jump between Nova and Next launcher mostly. Next launcher is smoother to me though. I see stutters between screens on Nova once in a while. Especially after it sits a few minutes. Next launcher is smooth and fluid at all times.
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Google Now+ Xposed+ GELS Module runs amazing on my G3
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Same set up here with lg home frozen. No more lags or stuttering. Lg keyboard is frozen as well. This feels like it's as fast as it's supposed to be.
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I have been using Sweeter Home 2 for years and am guessing that I will never switch. It is the only launcher that I have found that allows you to customize your home screen to exactly what you want.
Nova prime. Always. Lol. This mainly on aosp builds but I have on occasion messed with it on stock. There are usually some of the most updated tweaks with nova as they are loaded with extra settings. In fact many aren't aware of the advanced power tap extended advanced settings. Lol
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Nova prime. Always. Lol. This mainly on aosp builds but I have on occasion messed with it on stock. There are usually some of the most updated tweaks with nova as they are loaded with extra settings. In fact many aren't aware of the advanced power tap extended advanced settings. Lol
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What's that.
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What's that.
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What's what?
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What's what?
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Oops. Sorry. The advanced power tap thing.
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Oops. Sorry. The advanced power tap thing.
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In nova when your in the settings menu it says advanced. You scroll down and press volume up or down a couple times and it brings up more beta settings. Im sure its something close to be honest i havent used the deeper setting in over a year. So i may be off on how to access. But google it. Hidden settings in nova.
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Droid2drummer said:
In nova when your in the settings menu it says advanced. You scroll down and press volume up or down a couple times and it brings up more beta settings. Im sure its something close to be honest i havent used the deeper setting in over a year. So i may be off on how to access. But google it. Hidden settings in nova.
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Vol dn for a few seconds. Sweet. I never knew that. Not much ide use in there but it's good to know. Thanks man. They have a new beta up if you havnt tried it.

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