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Hi,
I am new here and did my best searching but couldn;t find a conclusive answer so i just need some suggestions about a way forward.
So far using Froyo's move to SD implementation I have managed to gain some space on the phone for more apps but i am still running out. I also have to use the slow Apps 2 SD application.
So my problem is I want more space for apps. Using adb, setting the install location to SD card helps provide some more but i have hit that limit too.
So, from what i've read so far, there is another symbolic link based method, that creates a partition on the SD card and then the phone appears to think its still on the phone.
I have a stock ROM and would prefer not having a custom ROM for now. What would be the suggested way of getting Apps2sdext functionality? I mean like installing a package after rooting.
I have read about rooting, and apps2sdext also seems to need root. But i'd really appreciate if somebody could drop some links as to what I could do. Here are my thoughts of what they might be:
Root phone
Format SD card with partitions
Install a2sd
Another question: is there no way of using Gparted, etc to resize partitions and create the ext4 partition on pc? As in before taking it to the phone? that way no need to reinstall some apps.
Ok so for now I see I can use Z4Root to root my phone. So i've sorted that part out.
I also saw on DarkTremor apps2sd page that stock roms need a custom init.rc. Where are the instructions for that?
gontadu said:
Another question: is there no way of using Gparted, etc to resize partitions and create the ext4 partition on pc? As in before taking it to the phone? that way no need to reinstall some apps.
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I'm not quite sure. I'm not an A2SD user. But, here are my hunches/ideas/opinions:
I suggest you partition with the partitioner in the recovery image. A2SD may have trouble finding the ext partition when the layout is quite different from what it expects, though I'm not quite sure.
As for not having to reinstall apps, this is what I did prior to installing A2SD:
Move all apps to phone memory
Backup
Partition SD
Flash A2SD
Install A2SD (yes, I had to manually launch a2sd scripts --')
Done
Works as intended, but I've found that there wasn't a significant increase in free phone memory storage, but I'm very sure a2sd was applied.
So I went back to native A2SD.
Which leads me to say: I suggest flashing a custom ROM with A2SD integrated
Idk, maybe I just didn't give A2SD some time. Just try it out.
Hmmm interesting! Still digging up more info as i go along...
Ok so far I installed, z4root and it installs fine and does the whole root and restart thing.
Now when i browse from adb shell i still get the $ prompt and not the # prompt. But when i go into z4root it provides options for re-root and un-root...
UPDATE: well i found out that once the shell opens as $, you type su. When you do that look at your phone and accept the superuser request, otherwise permission denied appears on the pc screen. now i have the # prompt!!!
UPDATE: Got Clockworkmod running now! and exploring a2sd... i give up. cannot find a concise thing that says here's the script that you use after doing the clockworkmod. what do i do???
Hi,I came from megatron rom and is using CM7 rom now.Not sure partitioning of sd card work on stock rom but you can try.
Disclaimer: I'm not responsible for anything that happens to your phone! Below is what I did.
Instructions: Download DarkTremor Apps2sd.zip file.
Then,Backup all your sd card contents on your PC.You MUST backup as partitioning of sd card will wipe the whole sd card.
Reboot in recovery and select partition sd card > Partition sd card again> Swap Size:Choose 0 (I'm not sure what the other numbers will do.) > Then 512mb for the next option.Then it will start partitioning. > After you're done,upgrade ext.2 to ext.3 > Then upgrade ext.3 to ext.4 > After that,connect usb or take out sd card and put DarkTremor apps2sd.zip file in the root of your sd card and then flash it!
DONE AND PROFIT!
Your internal storage should decrease very slowly because your apps are now 'tricked' into being installed on your sd card Hope this helps!
Sorted my problem out!!
Gonna post details asap! So excited
gontadu said:
Sorted my problem out!!
Gonna post details asap! So excited
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So you did my method or what?
Nope actually not. Found a simpler method that's easier for noobs.
So here goes in very short since I don't have links
1. Split memory card into two partitions. I used 1GB. I did the partitioning on Ubuntu as it was much easier to just resize the partition using gparted. I am not sure what file systems are supported for the apps but i used ext3 for the 1GB. Backup should not be necessary but you are welcome to be careful
2. Root phone with z4root, very straightforward process
3. Install Link2SD from Android Market.
4. Once its installed, it'll prob ask for root permissions. Grant them.
5. Open Link2SD and in the list, one by one for each app you'd like to move, select and it opens a page with some details. Just click on create link, and in the next page an option for moving cache also shows. Select that too. Then the app gets moved in the background and slowly your space starts increasing.
6. I did not move any preinstalled apps that came with the phone. Just moving the apps I installed gave me plenty of space not to worry with App 2 SD (froyo method) or anything. Also with this method, mounting for USB Mass Storage also gets quicker.
What's there not to line?
Always do a nandroid backup! I didn't as i didn't think much of an app.. my phone went into continued android logo loop. After several tries of battery pull,I managed to get into the phone but many of my apps went missing.. sighz...
Running Stock rom
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yanuk said:
Always do a nandroid backup! I didn't as i didn't think much of an app.. my phone went into continued android logo loop. After several tries of battery pull,I managed to get into the phone but many of my apps went missing.. sighz...
Running Stock rom
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You mean the backup option that is there in clockwork mod recovery menu right? I screwed up the files once and the backup came in real handy!
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It may not help you but I was using megatron rom froyo 2.2 and had barley any memory space on my phone and since I flashed CM7 rom from milk I have tons of space I have twice as many as many apps and stol 100 megabits left
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Just curious, on a scale of 10 how hard is it to get cm7 onto your optimistic? And any clue whether existing settings are lost? Any other benefits? And features missing? It would be nice if we either got more battery life or better performance if not both
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I use a stock ROM (2.2.1) and I have rooted and installed "Move2SD Enabler" from the market and moved all the apps to SD (except for widgets) in the plain simple old fashion. I currently have over 150 apps installed with about 90MBytes of internal memory free.
hi,
i really want to play a game but unable to install it..
i was informed that i cannot install a file larger that my /cache
upon chcking it, my max /cache sums to 50mb, i still have 48mb++
i want to install this game called battlehearts [around 50+ mb], but cant.. since i cant install it. is there a way that i can increase my /cache?
thanks
x10mini pro
android 2,1
running on pfonck's clean rom
have sd 8gb, partitioned, link2sd
Yesterday I helped my gf to root her phone. Because she would like to keep her stock ROM and not wanting to use stock ROM, I used CF-Root (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158197) to root the phone.
After that, I install DT A2SD (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715940) and run it on stock rom. I moved dalvik cache and data to sd card. After rebooting, the phone slows down alot. Media scanning took few minutes and the phone performs laggy. So, I thought moving dalvik cache to sd card is not a good idea, i moved it back to internal. The result is still the same. I moved back the data too to internal. And still, laggy and media scanning took very long.
Oh, I partitioned the sd card with CWM. 1gb for partition
Can anyone guide me?
TL; DR ver.
1) Gf wants to keep stock ROM and move data to SD card since apps are taking up spaces
2) So, CF-rooted it and installed dt a2sd, moved dalvik n data to sd.
3) Phone performance quite slow and took long time for sd card finish scanning.
4) Moved back dalvik n data to internal, doesnt help at all..
DXKPB 2.3.4
There's a Tweak manager included from Cf-root, but I dont know whether I should meddle with it.
Is there anyway to remove the lag?
the class rating of your sd card is too low ie too slow.
what is the speed of the sdcard? higher class means higher read/write speed eg class 6 is faster than class 4
btw install and use this to completely disable media scanning when boot and when unmount device from pc. reopen the app when u wanna trigger media scan. that app helps me alot by making boot much, much faster because media scanning is disable
Her sd card class : 4
Sometimes running some apps or playing music, the loading time is long. =\
Funny that Im running on cm7 kang + dt a2sd with sd card class only 2 and I dont experience similar problem.
Hmmm anything could be possible then e.g. too many apps attempting to startup together during bootup. One can only tell by using an app like Autostarts.
I have tried using an sd-ext partition when i was on the rfs file system and things weren't slow to make me frustrated but certainly no complaints appreciating the speed increase after changing the file system to ext4 overall.
I did a quick search and found this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344542
Saw your link there to convert rfs file sys to ext4. But before that, how do I check my stock rom is rfs type? Just wanna take precaution not to brick the phone..
if its stock, its sure is rfs.
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I did a quick search and found this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344542
Saw your link there to convert rfs file sys to ext4. But before that, how do I check my stock rom is rfs type? Just wanna take precaution not to brick the phone..
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i used ext4manager from ketut in his CF Root thread. Since you are on CF Root kernel, it will show you whether you are on rfs or ext4. this is actually a pointless exercise cos as anonymous pointed out, it is almost confirmed for sure that you are on rfs. Anyway this ext4manager allow you to do an one click conversion to ext4 file system too. i think that should interest you even more.
ok, so i have installed ketut's modified app and tried that but it seems like ext4 manager is showing no ext4 partitions found. Then I tried CF's original ext4 manager app. This time, it shows no ext4 part found but the "convert rfs to ext4" is clickable. after clicking it, it rebooted into CWM and failed to convert it. Everything happened too fast on CWM screen. I saw "installation aborted".
edit: it also shows "CF kernel not found"
edit 2: I reinstalled ketut's app. and this time it works. Successfully converted to ext4. But it does not improve the performance. Still very slow and laggy when running apps.
why dont you install autostarts and expand event called after startup to see how many apps are jostling to startup?
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why dont you install autostarts and expand event called after startup to see how many apps are jostling to startup?
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well because I dont experience such similar problem before rooting and installing dt a2sd. If there are 20 apps jostling to start up without problem before, I wonder what's the prob that caused the lag and slow prob after root and a2sd since they are the same 20 apps earlier
Disabled some apps. Prob still persists.
I think sd partition via CWM is buggy. Faced similar prob. I'm gonna try format the sd card and repartition it via Minitool
ok for me i did my partition not via CWM. I am going to hazard a guess and say that you created an ext3 sd-ext partition in CWM. As far as i know, CWM makes ext3 partitions.
try using mini tools and inform us of your progress.
Okay. So I partitioned 1st as FAT32 and 2nd as ext4. Both also Primary. Now ended up bootlooping. -.- gah. dont know what's wrong with it.
edit: wth.. The phone auto switch back on even I off it via CWM.
WishFinder` said:
Okay. So I partitioned 1st as FAT32 and 2nd as ext4. Both also Primary. Now ended up bootlooping. -.- gah. dont know what's wrong with it.
edit: wth.. The phone auto switch back on even I off it via CWM.
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If it doesn't work , try partitioning using CWM .
For that power off in CWM , it's bugged
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I already partitioned that at first. I think it's not compatible and makes things slow?
Hi! guys i decided to do an ext 4 with mini tools and when i hit apply it shut s down my LT and started to do the partitioning, when it was done my F:\ disappeared now i m getting dreaded code 10 error in my device manager and the worst part was when i inserted the sd into the ph it could'nt read the card luckily i could get CWM to reformat and partition as it was a new 16gig. I had to reinstall my rom again and had it sent via BT to the phone so i could flash and i had to do it twice as the rom i was using had a flash over update. Right now i m still figuring how to get over the code 10, tried disabling,uninstalling,update software drivers u name it. Right now i m waiting for someone to sent me an adaptor could be it is corrupted as well. sigh!!
If your sdcard is like this , use Gparted to rewrite the partition table
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Well, for those who is already using a large /data, please ignore this.
For those who need an easy access to install a lot of apps with limited /data confused: 320M available on phone??? 10 games could fill that space!!)
Please read the following, and try on your own risk.
----Let me tell a story first----
My girl nees a lot of apps on her Ray, and is always complaining about the limited space on /data, and asked if I can make her phone a large /data like my Desire. Well, I have searched a lot without any appliable methods, or I was just fooling around?
Indeed, links2sd is appliable, but that is annoying if you need lots of apps, some of which can be hardly moved to sd.
Could there be an easy access? After that I started to try those scripts that I tried for my Desire. I have tried custom MTD partition method, but there is no Recovery that supports MTD, and SONY itself could not be easily make customed MTD.
So I tried 10+ scripts to mount /data on EXT(one by one!), from a normal apps2sd script, apps2sdx, etc., all prove invalid or some just make her Ray brick.
Every time Ray refused to boot, I have to restore /system, then tried another script.
Finally, I found this, mounts2sd script.
Sorry I forget whose this script it belongs to. I just borrowed it and it worked well on Ray, at least on her Ray, now she gets about 60 non-system apps...
----End of my story----
Main steps include:
1. partition SD-CARD. an EXT partition is needed. I gave her a 1G ext4, possibly large enough for about 100 apps.
(ps. your SD-card is better to be a fast one, like Class6+; I gave her a Class 10 Kingston...)
2. install your rom, and a bootable 3rd-party boot other than the original one. I tried this on official ICS rom with a moded boot with touch recovery, sorry I forget which it was, but the boot must be int.d supportive. (PS: the BOOT I used for the Official ICS ROM is in post #4.)
3. **an Nandroid Backup is strongly recommended before flasing this zip.**
4. flash this zip View attachment mounts2sd-signed.zip without any wipe. Then restart and see if it works.
*5. if this didn't work or caused any problem on boot, please restore at least /system. Perhaps this script isnot appliable for your Ray or just your boot.
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Pleas try this on your own risk, and report back so that other users know whether it could work.
Sorry for my poor English. Hope what I've written intelligible.
I'll update this this thread on post #2
reserve this for updates. Forgive me...
which rom and kernal you tested?
because my ray cannot see ext-partition on sdcard after try
The BOOT I used.
Nekkab25 said:
which rom and kernal you tested?
because my ray cannot see ext-partition on sdcard after try
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Sorry for the delay.
I tried the early-leaked official ICS 4.1.A.0.562.
Please find the boot.img I used in attachment.
View attachment boot.rar
sorry but i can't understand how did you do it
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sorry but i can't understand how did you do it
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Well, after you got your Ray BL-unlocked (and maybe rooted), you can flash any BOOT.img in fastboot, then flash official ICS rom(in zip format, you can search it yourself), with that BOOT (the one in Post #4) or any other BOOT that support int.d, you can try flashing the package in #1 in recovery without any wipe, then reboot your Ray and see...
I messed around with this in the past and even tried changing the partition sizes on the Ray - all with less than ideal outcomes and I eventually gave up.
All I do now (on ICS) is go into apps, select one and hit 'Move to SD Card' - large apps are automatically installed on SD Card if they won't fit on internal memory. Currently have 231MB of apps on phone and 332MB on the SD card - and all the SD card is usable, I've not 'lost' space to the non-windows writable partition that isn't being used at that time.
Don't think there's any "Right" way of doing it, but I just found this easier than messing around with partitioning.
hartej said:
I messed around with this in the past and even tried changing the partition sizes on the Ray - all with less than ideal outcomes and I eventually gave up.
All I do now (on ICS) is go into apps, select one and hit 'Move to SD Card' - large apps are automatically installed on SD Card if they won't fit on internal memory. Currently have 231MB of apps on phone and 332MB on the SD card - and all the SD card is usable, I've not 'lost' space to the non-windows writable partition that isn't being used at that time.
Don't think there's any "Right" way of doing it, but I just found this easier than messing around with partitioning.
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That's why I said this to be a method for lazier persons like me and my girl.
She doesn't mind the EXT partition "eating up" 1G of her SD card leaving it "unfunctionable", and the card I gave her Ray is fast enough to run the apps and large enough for her.
Seems this method is more complex than link2sd.
Link2sd can run on rooted stock rom (locked bootloader) with ext support.
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Bugeca said:
Seems this method is more complex than link2sd.
Link2sd can run on rooted stock rom (locked bootloader) with ext support.
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Well, Link2sd is an app... Mounts2sd is a script, to a large extent.
I'm Not going to debate about their advantages or disadvantages.
Just share my experience with you...
you using wrong way i think friends
i think using another way is fastly..
u can use which rom u want but you have to delete what you dont want from ROM Memory..
You can use Root Explorer for this job.
For exp. I use Rayonium Rom already have about 150 mb free.. But i delete gmaps gtalk and some unusefull addons for me and i save about 250 mb.
Then there are some applicatioons which i won't delete anytime for example my special launcher, dolphin brow. some newspapers , mp3 players , markets, video players .. photo applications and etc what you want..
You will move from internal memory/ data/ app / to
Rom memory system / app /
Then it mean those applications will be in ur Custom Rom so if you wipe factory reset you wont lose your applications..
If you wanna use this way and still cant understand how to do i can explain it much better.. Hope u thx
You move only application which you can't move SD card...
emosis said:
i think using another way is fastly..
u can use which rom u want but you have to delete what you dont want from ROM Memory..
You can use Root Explorer for this job.
For exp. I use Rayonium Rom already have about 150 mb free.. But i delete gmaps gtalk and some unusefull addons for me and i save about 250 mb.
Then there are some applicatioons which i won't delete anytime for example my special launcher, dolphin brow. some newspapers , mp3 players , markets, video players .. photo applications and etc what you want..
You will move from internal memory/ data/ app / to
Rom memory system / app /
Then it mean those applications will be in ur Custom Rom so if you wipe factory reset you wont lose your applications..
If you wanna use this way and still cant understand how to do i can explain it much better.. Hope u thx
You move only application which you can't move SD card...
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I quite understand your method. Rooted ROM has lots of freedom in apps, but I just put forward my alternative method to make it easier for those lazy guys like me and my girl who don't want the trouble of moving apps to anywhere and just keep it default. By the way, some apps can't be simply moved to ROM, eg. Titanium Backup, it causes FC if you move it to rom, also hope you could understand.
Of course, this method needs extra space on the SD card, along with its requirement of the SD-card's R/W speed...
Anyway, thanks for discussion...
Sup XDA Comunity!
I hace one question. Isnt a way that makes EVERYTHING install by default on External SD(The MicroSD card that you have in the Slot, not the internal storage of 10 gb) ???
Some script or dunno? NOT an apk/aplication, I remember I do that on my Motorola Milestone. I install the rom (.zip file on recovery) then i flash an .zip script that every app installs on the ext partition of the SD
Yea because, its so ****ing anoying install every app that you have, even i had all the apk, its annoyng install one by one, because are like 50 or more apps, nor incluiding games
so that was so ´perfect, in my milestone, i just sayd Nah fck this rom, cwm and bang flash another rom and all my apps where in the ext partition, and they were installed, loaded and ready to launch already
If someone had an idea about this on the i9100, tell me please!
Thax, Cya!
Hi,
all i know is Titanium Backup - but some Roms arent supported by TB Backups , dunno why
give it a try ;-)
greetz
You want to install apps on your ext SD?
Try GL to SD v 1.9.4 ( http://market.android.com/search?q= )
It moves the data from a appto your sd card. The additional 1gb that you have to download after you installed fifa, gta or mc3.
I dont know if it can move the apk, but apk's arent that big.
For me this was the reason to root!
Hope i helped you!
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lvcio said:
Sup XDA Comunity!
I hace one question. Isnt a way that makes EVERYTHING install by default on External SD(The MicroSD card that you have in the Slot, not the internal storage of 10 gb) ???
Some script or dunno? NOT an apk/aplication, I remember I do that on my Motorola Milestone. I install the rom (.zip file on recovery) then i flash an .zip script that every app installs on the ext partition of the SD
Yea because, its so ****ing anoying install every app that you have, even i had all the apk, its annoyng install one by one, because are like 50 or more apps, nor incluiding games
so that was so ´perfect, in my milestone, i just sayd Nah fck this rom, cwm and bang flash another rom and all my apps where in the ext partition, and they were installed, loaded and ready to launch already
If someone had an idea about this on the i9100, tell me please!
Thax, Cya!
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Apps2SD and its variants have been falling out of favour with the rise of increasingly improved specs. Like leechseed said Titanium backup or a similar app is your best bet. I've got around 40 apps installed including hefty games and backing up/restoring takes no more than 5 minutes respectively.
Hollow.Droid said:
Apps2SD and its variants have been falling out of favour with the rise of increasingly improved specs. Like leechseed said Titanium backup or a similar app is your best bet. I've got around 40 apps installed including hefty games and backing up/restoring takes no more than 5 minutes respectively.
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I See, but that implies having the doble space ocupied for the same apps, The Backup and the instaled backup after restore...
Like i says, on my old milestone i simply had everything(except rom apps) instaled on the ext partition then android it loads every apps from the begining! And every new rom flashing i just had to flash an recovery script that makes everything auto install by default on the ext partition. No user interface no dialogs, pop ups, configs, backups/restore.
Just flash script that makes everything default install on ext partition, after flashing main rom/gapps and thats it
If someone knows something about similar stuff on the i9100 Please Share it, Thx!
lvcio said:
I See, but that implies having the doble space ocupied for the same apps, The Backup and the instaled backup after restore...
Like i says, on my old milestone i simply had everything(except rom apps) instaled on the ext partition then android it loads every apps from the begining! And every new rom flashing i just had to flash an recovery script that makes everything auto install by default on the ext partition. No user interface no dialogs, pop ups, configs, backups/restore.
Just flash script that makes everything default install on ext partition, after flashing main rom/gapps and thats it
If someone knows something about similar stuff on the i9100 Please Share it, Thx!
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the old milestone way is not possible with I9100 since memory management is quite different. so either u can use backup apps like TB or u can live with ur milestone forever