Best Phone that will be ICS ready? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, my current phone is dying (faithful until recently HTC Kaiser) and i am in the market for a new phone and am not looking to wait another 3 months (2mo max). That said I want an Android phone that won't choke on Ice Cream Sandwich when it comes out. I had been holding out for the samsung galaxy S II LTE (for its screen/processors etc, not necessarily the LTE) but it seems that will be really hard to get my hands on anytime soon (though how hard would it be to get an unlocked version from Canada?). I am of course hearing alot about new phones coming out but taking into account that when they are announced, doesn't even mean they can be found to buy, I am not dying for the bleeding edge phones... soooo, any recommendations on all around robust phones that can handle a few ROM version upgrades would really be appreciated!
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-Gaiko

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The Hero, worth purchasing?

I am selling my iPhone right now to buy a hero locally for $250. Im jumping on the deal, because I love the phone, android and everything.
The only thing I don't like is the fact that I wont be able to use my 3G with AT&T.
Is EDGE going to be painfully slow on the Hero?
Should I not buy the 100, and try to buy a 300?
Because there's no way in hell I'm going to get one for this price!
izmar said:
I am selling my iPhone right now to buy a hero locally for $250. Im jumping on the deal, because I love the phone, android and everything.
The only thing I don't like is the fact that I wont be able to use my 3G with AT&T.
Is EDGE going to be painfully slow on the Hero?
Should I not buy the 100, and try to buy a 300?
Because there's no way in hell I'm going to get one for this price!
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Edge is painfully slow compared to 3g once you have experienced it.
I got the phone today. I've been using EDGE, and AT&T isn't that bad at all. Things seem fine. I'm sure 3G would be faster, but for now I don't mind at all.
let us know.. what u think between..
the phones
and the data speeds.
BTW: welcome to android
I'm going to buy a new mobile phone...
I had in mind HTC Hero and Motorola Milestone...
For now I use E71, but I'm looking to change OS (from Symbian to Android)
But, I can't make up my mind...
HTC Hero would be cheaper (Moto Milestone would cost more)
But, realy, I need your help, to tell me witch phone is better...
witch would you recomend?
hero is an awesome phone. i have been using it for last 5 months. but the problem is that developers are abandoning hero for nexus one. many modders have already bought nexus one and have stopped working on hero anymore and its quite logicla that why they will develop roms for an older phone while they have a pone with 1 ghz processor. as said developement of hero roms, themes, apps have become pretty slow for last 1-1.5 months and it will become worse. so right now buying hero isnt a very good idea in my honest opinion. better buy nexus one which is all interested in. cheers
Hero is an excellent phone. However, I'd personally go for the Nexus One right now.
I'll be developing for the Hero until this time next year, when my contract runs out
Update on my Hero.
I enjoy this phone much much more than my iPhone. Multitasking, customization, everything I wished I could do on my iPhone I can now do with my Hero.
The EDGE speed sometimes gets to me, such as when downloading applications. 3G is definitely faster, but the difference isn't so much that I regret my decision.
As for people updating and developing new Hero roms, I don't see why every dev would switch to the Nexus one. Yes, it's better, but I'm sure they understand that not everyone has a Nexus one. It would make no sense to just develop Nexus roms.\
I love everything about the Hero. I have the European version, so I have the chin, which I really like. I like having physical buttons on the outside too!
izmar said:
As for people updating and developing new Hero roms, I don't see why every dev would switch to the Nexus one. Yes, it's better, but I'm sure they understand that not everyone has a Nexus one. It would make no sense to just develop Nexus roms.
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The vast majority of developers will likely only develop for phones they currently have/use. If a Hero developer buys a Nexus, there is a strong possibility that they would abandon support for the Hero, because they have little incentive to do so.
There are exceptions of course - Paul @ MoDaCo still supports the Hero even though he has a Nexus, but the speed of his releases has definitely slowed. However, this may be due to the fact that there is little new material out there to work with.
Regards,
Dave
THX.
but, is it better to buy Milstone or Hero now??
If I were you, I'd buy neither - I'd get a HTC Desire when it is released in the next couple of months.
Regards,
Dave

[Q] Switching to Android

After 10 years of loving my windows phones I have had nothing but horrible experiences with the Dell Venue Pro (and dealing with DELL) and MS canceling out phone support for Zune systems of any kind, i'm switching to Android.
What I'd like to know, now that the new 4.0 OS (Ice cream / SDK) has been released what is the most powerful phone on the market or coming out in the next month or so?
What i'm looking for is the best of everything in one device. This means power and capabilities, but also means the ability to crack into my phone without issue (software mods as well as hardware mods). I would also be nice if the phone could use the 1700/2100 frequencies.
Alright so I don't know a lot about the bands that has never really been an issue for me because i have at&t but, here is the device that I would be looking at. The HTC Holiday does include those bands as far as I can tell. This device will (should) have a 1.5ghz processor 1 gb of ram, LTE, and best of all the htc sense UI. There are plenty of options but if you want the best you should be looking for 1.2ghz+ 1gb RAM, one of the top of the line screen options (every company has their own fancy name) I also believe the galaxy nexus will have these radio bands as well.
Anyone else have more good thoughts?
The Galaxy nexus releases Nov. 10 on Verizon and all carriers will get it sometime after that. That will be the only phone running 4.0 (ICS) for awhile. The Galaxy SII is running gingerbread, but is a great phone as well and will be eventually updated to ICS. The SII is available on all carriers right now. So to sum it up, if you want to wait...get the nexus. If the wait is too long (no eta on other carriers yet) get the galaxy SII.
I agree with the above, galaxy SII is a good choice for sure.

Should I buy this phone?

Alright, so I saw that SingTel has only a few smartphones available for now and I would like to ask if I should go for this phone. Obviously its cheaper than the Galaxy S II and should be umder my budget. My question is:
Will it be worth it to buy even in next year April. Cos I'm not sure of what is going to be developed on the phone and what are the things that would bbe developed on this phone for (like MIUI ICS and ICS based ROMs or even ICS Update)
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MrChaosDesire said:
Alright, so I saw that SingTel has only a few smartphones available for now and I would like to ask if I should go for this phone. Obviously its cheaper than the Galaxy S II and should be umder my budget. My question is:
Will it be worth it to buy even in next year April. Cos I'm not sure of what is going to be developed on the phone and what are the things that would bbe developed on this phone for (like MIUI ICS and ICS based ROMs or even ICS Update)
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Unless I am seriously stupid (high probability) your statement about when you are planning to buy it was ambiguous, and needs clarity. So you are asking if you should buy now, or would it still be worth buying in April?
The evo 3D has good hardware, it is no longer bleeding edge or cutting edge in terms of its hardware or performance but currently is still very much a device that has good performance and value for its price.
Now, in April if the reason you are asking if it is still worth buying because you have some partial or full discount upgrade and want to know if it is still worth buying in comparison to the current or future device releases before or around April, then I am going to suggest differently. I have not read or searched for any up coming devices, but without looking I think I could accurately say with confidence that there will be a device released before or around April that has better performance than the evo 3D, and also would come stock with ICS. If that is the case that ends up being true then I recommend you wait for one of those devices. Just my opinion of course
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Unless I am seriously stupid (high probability) your statement about when you are planning to buy it was ambiguous, and needs clarity. So you are asking if you should buy now, or would it still be worth buying in April?
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I'm confused on the same thing! (So either we both are stupid or it really doesn't make any sense) I would pick HTC over Samsung because I'm not a fan of the AMOLED screens. The vividness of them is nice, but almost seems too fake to me. Defiantly not better then the qHD and HD screens. And if you compare the communities, I think we here in the EVO 3D community have a good strong bond and a lot to offer. If your looking for a phone now, I'd go with the EVO 3D, if your going to wait till April, then id hold off.
Support TrevE! Fah Q CIQ!!
Whoops sorry. My english standard is too low to understand I guess
I don't want to have anything a very high specs since I don't really require as much juice as 1.5Ghz, and just wanted to know if by April 2012 the phone would get the ICS Update from HTC, if so I would go ahead and get it as the top priority now for considering to buy a phone is whether or not the phone would be getting the ICS Update.
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MrChaosDesire said:
Whoops sorry. My english standard is too low to understand I guess
I don't want to have anything a very high specs since I don't really require as much juice as 1.5Ghz, and just wanted to know if by April 2012 the phone would get the ICS Update from HTC, if so I would go ahead and get it as the top priority now for considering to buy a phone is whether or not the phone would be getting the ICS Update.
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That's ok, I understand English as a second language must be difficult. Thanks for trying either way! I have not read any reports on whether or not it will get ICS officially or not, but it will definitely get ICS as a custom ROM before then. I believe the drivers for the evo 3D are being released at the end of December (this is what is currently holding back its development for the 3D). If you are willing to root and flash a custom ROM then I would say yes ICS is coming before April.

Contract Up - Which phone next?

So I'm due for an upgrade, and the only things that even remotely look appealing are the Samsung Note or Skyrocket. I do like the nexus, but the specs feel more like a lateral move than a vertical one. It has a slightly faster processor (if I didn't overclock), NFC (which is cool, but nothing around here uses), and a worse camera. The biggest thing going for it is ICS and the AMOLED, and from what it looks like, the Atrix will have ICS soon too. So really, it feels like I'm just trading the fingerprint scanner for AMOLED.
It seems like all the cell phone companies lately just released their own flavor of the exact same device. I don't even hear talk of anything else with ICS coming along. Honestly, I think this might be the first time that I sit on my current device for a while.
Does anyone know of anything coming in the near (next year-ish) future that would be a good option? More importantly, I really like the fingerprint scanner. I heard somewhere that ICS has at least some built in fingerprint support, but does anyone know if there are plans for any new phones with fingerprint scanners?
For now, I think I'll flash another build of something, that usually stops the "I need new stuff!" feeling for a while
Wait for Sony Ion to be released!
<edit> New HTC One X doesn't look bad either.
Samsung Galaxy S3? Due sometime this year.
My contact renewal is in March. I'm either going to get the Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket HD, or if the SGS III is coming out within the next 3 months, I may wait for it... if it's not going to be out until Q3, then screw it, Skyrocket HD it is.
Swiftks said:
My contact renewal is in March. I'm either going to get the Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket HD, or if the SGS III is coming out within the next 3 months, I may wait for it... if it's not going to be out until Q3, then screw it, Skyrocket HD it is.
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The regular skyrocket is actually better than the HD version, something to do with the SoC... Best bet right now is the SGS3 - nothing compares to it thus far - even if the rumors are even partially true....
The literally just announced HTC One X looks pretty good if you dont mind the non-removable battery.
If you're looking for a good rom, try Turl's CM9 v8. No camcorder but otherwise really solid and fast.
Swiftks said:
My contact renewal is in March. I'm either going to get the Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket HD, or if the SGS III is coming out within the next 3 months, I may wait for it... if it's not going to be out until Q3, then screw it, Skyrocket HD it is.
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Rumor's floating around the skyrocket forum that the 'HD'(introduced at CES) may not actually see production. I believe a fairly credible Sammy source divulged the information but rumors are just rumors...
if true, I'd speculate the Note and S3 rubbed it out of the lineup.
My next phone is SGS3 or atrix 3
CM9 v7
Unlocked SIM,
& Bootloader!
That HTC one X looks sweet, depending on what the specs are when it ships. In my ultra short Google search i saw something about losing the Tegra 3 due to incompatibilities.
I like the sound of the quad core atrix 3, but without the fingerprint scanner it really puts it down a few notches.
I did find this http://www.geeksailor.com/fujitsu-quad-core-tegra-3-smartphone/ I never really cared for fujitsu before, but if they play their cards right then that might be my next phone! (Assuming it does actually launch in the US) It's the only thing I can find coming out with ICS and a fingerprint scanner. It also has a quad-core 1.5GHz, and the 13.1MP camera and rugged-ized body sound pretty sweet too.
I don't know your tastes but the razr could be an option due to is similar to the atrix but with a little improvements, also this phone will have "ICS". (Well the Atrix too =P)
And if you prefer something similar to the "Galaxy Note" the HTC Sensation XL could be an option too, due to it have a big screen, also it have beats audio, but well is not the most powerful phone.
Sorry for my horrible English. I hope my post is clear.
I do like the RAZR, but it does not have much more than the Atrix I have now, and I don't think it runs on AT&T (correct me if I am wrong).
Mostly, I want a new phone, on AT&T, with ICS (standard, if I wanted XDA to support it I could stick with what I have), and a fingerprint scanner. It also needs to have an easy recovery, and while an unlocked bootloader is not required, the ability to modify the ROM and kernel is. I realize that the fingerprint scanner might have to be a lost dream, but whatever replaces it has to make up for that wonderful feature somewhere else.
Right now, I don't see any phone on the market that can meet that criteria, so I'm looking toward what's coming.
I retract my comment, the HTC one X is a beast.
My vote is on the Galaxy SIII
Yea the more I look, the better the SGS3 sounds. From what I hear, Samsung has been very good at giving people who want to modify the tools to do so. I don't like the "apple style" reporting being done on it though. Give me some real specs already!
The more I think about the HTC one X, the more I think it will be a flash in the pan. It's going to be the top of the market, I'll give you that, but not for very long. The 1800mAh, non-removable battery is gonna kill it I think, at least for me.

Looking at upgrades - SGN or SGS3

I have been looking at upgrades to my SGS2, and I am a bit torn between the two phones - Samsung Galaxy Nexus and the Samsung Galaxy S III (AT&T).
Looking at the stats, there is very little difference, and the Nexus is about half the price for an unlocked one straight from Google.
Battery life should be close, but the specs all show a much lower number then I would expect, so I am guessing that it is from the quad core version, and not the US version.
Has anyone done a comparison? I have been looking and always end up with the Quad core version rather then the Dual core one for the US.
The Nexus isn't an upgrade from the S2, it's a sidegrade at best (and possibly even a downgrade depending on what's important to you in a smart phone).
I've been having the same trouble . It just seems like the SGS3 is a better choice. Also the SGN isn't LTE and the SGS3 is.
According to your question it's undoubtedly the Samsung galaxy S3
but on the other hand if you are a pure android fan and want fast updates from google then it's definitely the Galaxy Nexus...
I would say that the SGS3 would be the better one unless you want pure Android.
i would say wait for the next nexus phone with lte capabilities..that's gonna be my next smartphone maybe, want pure android not pure bloatware from carriers and delayed updates
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Nexus for sure
Jelly Bean makes it feel like a whole new phone, I am probably going to order mine next Week.
crimsonconcepts said:
I have been looking at upgrades to my SGS2, and I am a bit torn between the two phones - Samsung Galaxy Nexus and the Samsung Galaxy S III (AT&T).
Looking at the stats, there is very little difference, and the Nexus is about half the price for an unlocked one straight from Google.
Battery life should be close, but the specs all show a much lower number then I would expect, so I am guessing that it is from the quad core version, and not the US version.
Has anyone done a comparison? I have been looking and always end up with the Quad core version rather then the Dual core one for the US.
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As much as you would hate this... I'll say waite.
There is nothing wrong with the SGSII. Its freaking awesome, and for me, it's even better than the G Nexus.
As for the SGS3, Android as for now, is in no need of 4 cores, specially samsung ones that are a brand new technology that is still in developement. Even Tegra 3 are equaled in performance by S4 dual core chips, while consuming less power. (as seen on One X series)
I bet around fall we will see a new and decent Nexus device, that i say its worth the waite.
rich.x87 said:
As much as you would hate this... I'll say waite.
There is nothing wrong with the SGSII. Its freaking awesome, and for me, it's even better than the G Nexus.
As for the SGS3, Android as for now, is in no need of 4 cores, specially samsung ones that are a brand new technology that is still in developement. Even Tegra 3 are equaled in performance by S4 dual core chips, while consuming less power. (as seen on One X series)
I bet around fall we will see a new and decent Nexus device, that i say its worth the waite.
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The at&t s3 only has 2 cores
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I'm waiting for the next batch of phones with a new SoC.
The only thing I want from the SGSIII is that screen.
I would say look at reviews of both and see which fits your needs and then make a decision. No one can make this decision for u
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IMO, the only reason to pick a Galaxy Nexus over any other phone is because you want quicker updates. It has nothing else over any other device, imo.
I too am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I have 1 line available for an upgrade now and another on Aug. 1st. Problem is my SGS2s work perfectly and even though the S3 has some nice features (zero shutter lag for one). It does not feel like enough of an upgrade harware wise. The GNexus is pretty much on par with the S2 except a slightly larger screen size and NO removable sdcard. So I decided to just wait. But my daughters handed down SGS1 Cappy sdcard just failed a few days ago. She was runing it with CM7 still and liked it. So since I am STUCK with having to get a new phone my dilema is this. Get the SGS3 and hand down my SGS2? Get the Gnex from the play store which I like the updates available but give it to her, then I STILL have 1 phone available for upgrade and another soon so IF something better comes along I can jump on it. OR third choice get a SGS2 I777 for her and waste one upgrade. Decisions decisions...
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RockRatt said:
I too am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I have 1 line available for an upgrade now and another on Aug. 1st. Problem is my SGS2s work perfectly and even though the S3 has some nice features (zero shutter lag for one). It does not feel like enough of an upgrade harware wise. The GNexus is pretty much on par with the S2 except a slightly larger screen size and NO removable sdcard. So I decided to just wait. But my daughters handed down SGS1 Cappy sdcard just failed a few days ago. She was runing it with CM7 still and liked it. So since I am STUCK with having to get a new phone my dilema is this. Get the SGS3 and hand down my SGS2? Get the Gnex from the play store which I like the updates available but give it to her, then I STILL have 1 phone available for upgrade and another soon so IF something better comes along I can jump on it. OR third choice get a SGS2 I777 for her and waste one upgrade. Decisions decisions...
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That middle option sounds good to me. It'd be nice to have an upgrade available late in the year or early 2013 when new phones start coming out...
Wait for the Next Nexus that will hopefully come out in the fall/winter season.
mattdm said:
That middle option sounds good to me. It'd be nice to have an upgrade available late in the year or early 2013 when new phones start coming out...
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That's what I'm edging towards with my upgrade. I was considering selling my SGSII and buying the GNex in order to have the upgrade available for the next batch of phones (Krait Quads) or just wait until then with my SGSII although I would be able to sell if for much less at that time.
SGSII is such a great phone but seeing the SGSIII, that screen is just making me so tempted to upgrade. I'm a sucker for bigger screens with better res. Someone smack the temptation out of me!
RockRatt said:
I too am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I have 1 line available for an upgrade now and another on Aug. 1st. Problem is my SGS2s work perfectly and even though the S3 has some nice features (zero shutter lag for one). It does not feel like enough of an upgrade harware wise. The GNexus is pretty much on par with the S2 except a slightly larger screen size and NO removable sdcard. So I decided to just wait. But my daughters handed down SGS1 Cappy sdcard just failed a few days ago. She was runing it with CM7 still and liked it. So since I am STUCK with having to get a new phone my dilema is this. Get the SGS3 and hand down my SGS2? Get the Gnex from the play store which I like the updates available but give it to her, then I STILL have 1 phone available for upgrade and another soon so IF something better comes along I can jump on it. OR third choice get a SGS2 I777 for her and waste one upgrade. Decisions decisions...
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Well... Give your daughter the SGS2 and get a SGS3 or One X. And you'll have the extra upgrade to get any of the phones coming later this year.
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Now when you say s3, att crap or real, int s3? Because if att one, id say stick to s2 or maybe Note.
raduque said:
IMO, the only reason to pick a Galaxy Nexus over any other phone is because you want quicker updates. It has nothing else over any other device, imo.
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Well I know that the idea of getting updates quicker is what is would seem, but in reality, that is not the case. The Nexus models may be a Google phone, but they still have to go through the carrier to get updates.
I think that although a new phone may be nice, many of you are right that the S2 is an amazing phone, and should be good for a while. As far as the comment about no need for Quad cores, I thought the same thing when I got my Eris, and thought it was lighting fast... until the new apps came out and then the phone ran like a slug, even rooted and modded.
The software will push the hardware limits at all times, so if new hardware comes out, software will start to use it, which means that eventually the old ones just don't work right. This is the bane of technology. I also have an iPad, and as of later this year I am out of luck and will not get any software updates before iOS 6 won't install on it. (But that is whole different conversation)
Looking at the specs between the two on phone arena is actually funny, since they are both SO close. I have worked in computers for long enough that I know that a .2 or .3 different in CPU speed, isn't going to make or break a difference. Memory, Cores, and Storage tend to make the biggest difference.
crimsonconcepts said:
Well I know that the idea of getting updates quicker is what is would seem, but in reality, that is not the case. The Nexus models may be a Google phone, but they still have to go through the carrier to get updates.
I think that although a new phone may be nice, many of you are right that the S2 is an amazing phone, and should be good for a while. As far as the comment about no need for Quad cores, I thought the same thing when I got my Eris, and thought it was lighting fast... until the new apps came out and then the phone ran like a slug, even rooted and modded.
The software will push the hardware limits at all times, so if new hardware comes out, software will start to use it, which means that eventually the old ones just don't work right. This is the bane of technology. I also have an iPad, and as of later this year I am out of luck and will not get any software updates before iOS 6 won't install on it. (But that is whole different conversation)
Looking at the specs between the two on phone arena is actually funny, since they are both SO close. I have worked in computers for long enough that I know that a .2 or .3 different in CPU speed, isn't going to make or break a difference. Memory, Cores, and Storage tend to make the biggest difference.
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Nexus updates except for Verizon and sprint do not go through any carrier
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