Well, the new / upgraded iPhone has been announced. All I can say is I'm glad I didn't wait for the iPhone 4S and went with the unlocked SGS II. I can't believe they didn't upgrade the screen size!
Here is a run down of the specs:
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I was waiting for someone to post this.......
SGSII win!!
What a huge let down, samsung is releasing tons of sgs2 varients(att/tmo/sprint/intl/lte/hd lte/note/prime) while apple simply upgrades the soc and camera after all this time and says its new and magical.
Screen size
Micro SDXC 64GB+
MKV + others
drag n drop media/files
Better Customization
This is what's lacking for me to even consider changing sgs 2
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All hail s2
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No offence to the OP but YET ANOTHER damn iPhone thread on XDA there must be at least 10 already doing the rounds on the various forums
In a nutshell as ive already said i will never purchase anything Apple related regardless of the specs while they are "closed" and not open source.
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just been reading the article on MSN news about the the release and it has a 'APPARENTLY' new feature called the siri double tapping the home button and you can him/her whatever that is,a question... a simpler version was already implemented into sgs2 (vingo) and with all the sueing battles going on between apple and samsung....shouldnt samsung sue apple for this
st3chn0 said:
just been reading the article on MSN news about the the release and it has a 'APPARENTLY' new feature called the siri double tapping the home button and you can him/her whatever that is,a question... a simpler version was already implemented into sgs2 (vingo) and with all the sueing battles going on between apple and samsung....shouldnt samsung sue apple for this
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LOL true
in fact we had it since Galaxy S 1
AllGamer said:
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LOL true
in fact we had it since Galaxy S 1
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they just introduced the microphone button on keyboard LMFAO
they are no where near samsung
And they took the Android's roller blind notification.
Apple we're great for kicking the arse of the smartphone back in 2007, but they have fallen behind. Quite disapointing really. If they don't come up with something more "Magical" next year, they might become the new Nokia?
In graphic department the iPhone 4S wins even at a higher resolution (iPad for instance beats all other smartphone and tablets even if they have lower resolution).
Second it wins by more apps also iOS5 is pretty cool although it copied some Android features I guess. But they made it look more sexier, like the notification and widgets look alot better on iOS.
But the downside would probably be it being down clocked to either 700-800mhz since the iPad 2 is at 900Mhz.
But Samsung Galaxy S2 wins everything else
I was very close to buying a iphone 4. Thank god i went for the sgs 2. What a beast of a machine.
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Lol siri was free on thr app store and now that apple bought siri its been removed from the app store and its treating it as a exlcusive selling piont.. Typical apple making u pay for something that was free and making you believe its revolutionary.. The galaxy s 2 had voice input since day one.. That site is wrong because i can tap my phone and it will do wat ever i tel it to, wether thats writing a message or navigating me to a certain place i tell it to and it does it well
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I was waiting for someone to post this.......
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Snap me too lol
Bopster1888 said:
I was very close to buying a iphone 4. Thank god i went for the sgs 2. What a beast of a machine.
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I was on that boat too SG2 for president!!!!
pr0n. can close the topic now. jk
Hmmm…..
Again some people bash out against Iphone and say hallelujah to the SG2. I don’t, to neither side.
But my personal view is that Apple has created a product that attracts tens of millions of people. And I believe that the majority of the buyers of the Iphone just want a telephone simple in use, and to show to the outside world that they are trendy.
Not everyone phone users are interested in flashing and tweaking, like us reading XDA. If people want to by a quite expensive Iphone, let them do so. I have been doing it and maybe I will do it again someday, but not the 4S.
Right now there is two SG2 and one TAB 10.1 in our family. And I’m not impressed by the build quality of none of them. On the SG2’s, random boots, loose home button. And the TAB with Newtons rings that has to be put in the freezer for 5-10 minutes, as a temporary fix. Never have I been using the freezer for anything other than food and ice cubes, before now.
Well, they have been sent for repair today, and I hope the TAB shelf in the freezer can be used for other things when I get it back.
So why did I buy Samsung you ask? Well, I bought these units within 45 days and I didn’t know it would be so many problems with 3/ 3 Samsung products. But I give Samsung a chance and hope they will be okay when I get them back.
Some years ago, in a social event, I met the national sales director of a Japanese car company. After a few drinks he started bashing out on the quality of the cars on his biggest competitors.
One other person asked this sales director if he regularly test drive these competitors’ cars? The sales director hesitated a few seconds before he answered ‘Yes of course!’ . But no one believed his answer, and I think almost everyone present didn’t feel he was credible.
And neither do I, when people are bashing out on products that never have been in their hands.
Love my sgs2 but it appears graphics wise the 4gs will trump the s2, based off how well the ipad 2 performs. Not something I care about that much because I don't use it for games or graphic intensive operations, but I know some people on here will secretively wish for that kind of performance.
If those battery stats are right it looks like it will trump the s2 in that department.
Although I wouldn't personally own an iphone, mainly due to the hype being over the top, anyone denying this will challenge or beat the s2 in a few departments is in plainn denial.
A lot of iphone users had already bought the thing before knowing what the specs were... Mmmm no comment. Mind you I'm sure there are some samsung users out there that would do the same
Hmm that's pretty boring because actually nothing changed (for my kind of user at least) : iOS is still the best platform for games and ease of use, Android is still the best platform in terms of actual choice of the hardware and freedom of use. An iPhone will work the exact same way with a dual core processor, the only thing that may change is the quality of the games, which i do not care about since i don't care about gaming on a phone in general.
It's also kind of interesting to see this pathetic attempt of Apple at convincing iFans that they don't need a bigger screen, good luck with that...no wonder Apple shares dropped by a nice 4% just a couple minutes after the 4s was revealed
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I thought the question would've been posed already. To be honest i'm thinking the GS2 will be faster than the Galaxy Nexus with ICS. What do you owners of the GS2 think? Anyone jumping ship?
Doesn't the galaxy nexus have hardware acceleration built into the UI?
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I weighed this decision heavily for a few days before getting my SGS2.
The Nexus has a weaker GPU, no MicroSD slot, and a 720p screen, but it's a pentile screen. More info on that that means: http://www.tested.com/news/pentile-vs-real-stripe-amoled-displays-whats-different/1868/
It will also likely cost more, even on contract, but that's my speculation.
Ultimately, I wasn't willing to lose storage expansion and GPU power to gain higher resolution. The usable area of the screen isn't bigger because of the onscreen home keys.
Plus, we have MikeyMike01's ROM here.
SGS2, like the Captivate before it, just seems like the sweet spot.
Robstunner the galaxy nexus has hardware acceleration with ics. As much as the gn will be awesome besides the larger qhd screen I am probably going to stuck with the sgs2 as the specs compared to the gn is not that much different to warrant the change over. Just my opinion.
Hth,
Charlie
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5000/galaxy-nexus-pentile-discussion-confirmed
Read that about the pixel per inch controversy.
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Yea I'm sticking with my sgs2...
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I'm glad to see everyone is excited about their GS2. You guys are making my decision easy. I have a Sensation and i'm on tmobile but I'm going to terminate early. Thank God for the prorating of the early termination
GN is kinda meh... This nexus is blah this time around. 720p screen is nice but me personally, if i need a screen to watch something, I'll watch it on my 52" 1080p lcd, thank you.
I'll stay with my "superphone" the sgs2.
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Not for Galaxy nexus. IPHONE 5/6 maybe but have to be at least 4.3" screen.
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I'm sorry but someone would honestly have to pay me to get an iPhone and to keep it. I just can't follow the sheep in front of me. CUSTOMIZE CUSTOMIZE CUSTOMIZE....
"Dare to be different"
The GS2 has sold 10 million units. Guess who will have the most ROMs....
Ill get it if its made of metal and has a nicely contoured back. As much as I like this phone I hate Samsung plastic and flat backs. Imo my inspire was perfect ergonomically
Bxsteez said:
I'm sorry but someone would honestly have to pay me to get an iPhone and to keep it. I just can't follow the sheep in front of me. CUSTOMIZE CUSTOMIZE CUSTOMIZE....
"Dare to be different"
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*Takes in a long breath*
You can customize the look and feel of an iPhone heavily and IMO it is hands down the best mobile device ever invented, in fact it was so successful that it spawned the iPod touch and the iPad. all 3 are essentially the same device and apple knows this and has forced/convinced consumers the world over that they need these products in their lives, some people own all 3 in fact, as well as other apple products. *I myself am one of them.*
For me I see android as a great mobile platform with a ton of tweaking and customizing fun to be had and enjoyed. The iPhone excels at music/media playback and has an amazing battery. The device is dependable and refined and will never let you down. Android phones however. *Doesn't matter which....* are usually faster over all performers and have more settings and tweaks than iPhone's do natively.
I had a G1, then went to an iPhone 3GS, then the iPhone 4. I was all ready to get an iphone 5 as I had gotten an iPad2 and was bored with having the same device twice and wanted something different/better.
Then I saw the 4s and was severely disappointed. I got a Galaxy S II because it had a better camera than my iPhone 4. A larger Screen, upgradeable/removable storage, a removable battery, and a faster cpu/gpu with more ram.
I love apple products. They just work, and work well. They're very reliable, and they do have a high buy-in price. However I personally, as do many other users feel its worth it.
I love everything about my G S II, and I think android is a solid and ever evolving mobile platform/OS. I want to see it succeed as I envision it doing so. Although I hate the music app on this phone and it has me missing my iPod, its not enough to take away from how amazing the S II is.
dont forget the 5mp cam too
Alucardis666 said:
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You can customize the look and feel of an iPhone heavily and IMO it is hands down the best mobile device ever invented, in fact it was so successful that it spawned the iPod touch and the iPad. all 3 are essentially the same device and apple knows this and has forced/convinced consumers the world over that they need these products in their lives, some people own all 3 in fact, as well as other apple products. *I myself am one of them.*
For me I see android as a great mobile platform with a ton of tweaking and customizing fun to be had and enjoyed. The iPhone excels at music/media playback and has an amazing battery. The device is dependable and refined and will never let you down. Android phones however. *Doesn't matter which....* are usually faster over all performers and have more settings and tweaks than iPhone's do natively.
I had a G1, then went to an iPhone 3GS, then the iPhone 4. I was all ready to get an iphone 5 as I had gotten an iPad2 and was bored with having the same device twice and wanted something different/better.
Then I saw the 4s and was severely disappointed. I got a Galaxy S II because it had a better camera than my iPhone 4. A larger Screen, upgradeable/removable storage, a removable battery, and a faster cpu/gpu with more ram.
I love apple products. They just work, and work well. They're very reliable, and they do have a high buy-in price. However I personally, as do many other users feel its worth it.
I love everything about my G S II, and I think android is a solid and ever evolving mobile platform/OS. I want to see it succeed as I envision it doing so. Although I hate the music app on this phone and it has me missing my iPod, its not enough to take away from how amazing the S II is.
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I'm going to have to disagree on all accounts. iOS is NOT heavily customizable and it is far from the best device created. I will agree that it is the easiest phone to use but that is about it.
Changing wallpaper is not my idea of customization. I know you can hack the crap out of the iphone and do a bunch of stuff after a jailbreak but its no android phone. I don't agree that iphone excels at music/media playback and that is the iPhone not third party applications. Yea you can sync with itunes (which is crap) and your videos are converted and transferred automatically, which again leads to it being the simipliest device, but that does not make it a multimedia powerhouse. Android devices come with HDMI out (not the SGS2).
Basically the iPhone has its place but its not with techies. Its a great "dumb" phone but not the best and it may never be. That is up to Apple.
I will not get into an iOS vs android rant ... I will not get into an iOS vs android rant ... I will not get into an iOS vs android rant ... I will not get into an iOS vs android rant ... okay, that's better
I agree the music implementation in android is great. I like what Samsung has done with the player controls on the lock screen and notification shade. I use Pandora mostly, and its the same on both. I always felt one of the best commercials for android would have been: "If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have iTunes ... you're welcome." I was excited to stop the weekly 80MB iTunes updates when I got my Captivate. Joyous beyond measure I could drag and drop my music and movies myself. Plus, I can share everything I have with others without having to get floola, or iTunes, just send it or plug in.
But, I have never purchased an iProduct before or since my iPhone. I was a Zune user, and loved letting my iPod owning friends play with it, waiting for them to drop their jaw and comment on built in FM, WiFi, twice the screen size, and a user interface that a newbie can use. When I used their ipods I always gave up trying to navigate those menus.
Back to the task at hand ... yes Galaxy Nexus is a hardware dissapointment. I liken it to the iPhone 4S "upgrade" that took 16 months to come out. Like the iPhone event was really about Siri, the Nexus event was really about ICS. I think we'll have all the ICS goodness soon.
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To each their own I guess... just voicing my opinion. Android is a stronger platform than iOS with more functionality and tweakability, but iOS does work easier and in some places better I think. I'm not hating on one or the other, just stating my opinion. I really wish the music app in android was handled better. I miss my genius playlist abilities and smart shuffle.
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Why switch to a new phone which only has a 5MP camera compared to
our phone which has an 8MP camera?
Also why would it be an advantage to give up our external sdcard slot?
Under the hood both have just about the same "horse power" with
Dual-core 1.2 GHz processors and an excellent GPU chipset.
Both having 1GB of ram as well.
Also you will find that even though the Samsung Galaxy Nexus has higher
resolution and a larger screen than our SGS2 has, if you put the two side
by side our Samsung SGS2 has noticeably larger default text fonts making
it by far easier to read.
I know we can change the text font sizes, however most if not all the apps
and games available for our phones are designed to use the default fonts
not only performance, but also for the very best appearance that's possible.
Not only is the text larger on our phones but anything and everything on the
screen is larger.
As far as game play goes, most games are designed to look and work best in a
more standardized resolution like our phones have.
Just my personal opinion
I thought the topic was gn vs gs2? Where is apple in there?
I was drooling watching the nexus event but the truth is my gs2 should run ics without issue and hopefully we aren't waiting too long for official ics update.
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Misterjunky said:
Why switch to a new phone which only has a 5MP camera compared to our phone which has an 8MP camera?
Also why would it be an advantage to give up our external sdcard slot?
Under the hood both have just about the same "horse power" with
Dual-core 1.2 GHz processors and an excellent GPU chipset.
Both having 1GB of ram as well.
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after seeing the unveiling, these were the exact things i was thinking of... a "worse" camera, and the same specs under the hood... pretty underwhelming if you ask me.
I don't regurgitate blog pieces as a rule, but this was kinda funny...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-5...have-a-clue-as-to-why-they-need-the-new-ipad/
No, no snotty "iSheep" comment from me. I fully believe that people are the same regardless of whatever toys they buy. But this illustrates the power of marketing in influencing consumer behavior. Heck, people buy bottled water!
Who else but Apple can get people to line up days in advance for its toy launches? The other day, my 6-yr old niece came up to me and said she wants an iPad for her birthday. Shut yo mouth, girl, where did you learn that nasty 4-letter word! 10 Hail Marys for you! And no ice cream either!
Then, thinking about it, if I were to get a tablet for little tyke, an iPad would be tops on the list right now. It's a great learning tool. And $400 one-time payment for an instant babysitter is not bad.
This is what Android has to face up against. It's not just a tech thing. Kudos to Apple marketers.
Then again, I take heart in realizing that all tech co's have their wax-wane cycles. Back in the day, it was the Sony Walkman that can do no wrong. Public tastes can change quickly.
The competition is great. Let's hope Goog will rise up to the challenge. I want my $199 Nexus tab. And my $499 Win8 tab.
Kind of ironic that earlier today I read a thread where you were quoting mods about xda rules/stances/etc yet here you are creating a thread that has NOTHING to do with a prime in the PRIME forums......
And some people have no clue why they'd need a new android tab either... I mean, some ppl buy new things just because they're new. That's not just the case for apple.
>And some people have no clue why they'd need a new android tab either... I mean, some ppl buy new things just because they're new. That's not just the case for apple.
When was the last time you see people get in line for a Dell or HP or anything Android...for days in advance?
For that matter, I'm hard pressed to think of any consumer product that had caused such anticipation, where even the act of waiting in line has become an "experience."
Beanies Babies? No...no lines, IIRC. Can anyone think of an equivalent example?
So, yes, it is really just the case for Apple, at least from my limited recollection.
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>And some people have no clue why they'd need a new android tab either... I mean, some ppl buy new things just because they're new. That's not just the case for apple.
When was the last time you see people get in line for a Dell or HP or anything Android...for days in advance?
For that matter, I'm hard pressed to think of any consumer product that had caused such anticipation, where even the act of waiting in line has become an "experience."
Beanies Babies? No...no lines, IIRC. Can anyone think of an equivalent example?
So, yes, it is really just the case for Apple, at least from my limited recollection.
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Justin Beiber?
Totally agree. What apple does best is marketing. Go watch some apple documentary from the 80ies on YouTube. There's one dude talking about the goals of apple and i quote:
"We want to convert people"
Guess they succeeded.
If they didn't do so much in marketing, I don't think they would be like they are now. I've said this before to people, but I just feel like the i"product" owners are brain washed by Apples Marketing techniques. Sure the iPhone and iPad and whatever have "cool" features here and there, but I'm sure if I would get bored of it.
Maybe if i STARTED with an iOS device, I would look at things differently, but since I started with an Android OS device as my real smartphone. I can't really see myself using an iOs device.
Apple people are just ignorant to the better options or f*cked up people.
I asked my co-worker why the skin on her phone had a hole on the back (was to show the Apple logo), and said it was to "advertise". Haha
They really love to show them off like they have something magical.
Anyone seen that samsung commercial where their is a huge lineup in front of a apple store and someone show up with a galaxy s2 and the guy say:
"I'm creative, I can't have a Samsung. "...
I think that is pretty much it.
The irony is that up you can't customize a iphone whitout a jailbreak and even then it is very limited...
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I think its mainly just a social standpoint piece. People want others to see them with an Apple device. Some see so many going crazy over Apple products an assume that they are superior products, because they simply don't know better. Others I believe buy them for what they are, easy to use, anyone can figure it out, modern electronic devices.
My younger sister has an iPod touch (never any apps on it, just music. Any mp3 can do that), an iPad 2(very very few apps), an is getting an iPhone when her contract is up. She currently has an Android phone. I looked at it the other day an asked why she had less than 10 apps an only 1 home screen setup on a phone she's had almost 2 years. Get reply was that she isn't in to that kinda stuff. What!!?? LOL. Yet all you can talk about is wanting an iPhone an using your iPad!!!??? If all you care about is texting an placing calls, then get a Jitterbug!!! Its just a social status for her. She is 24 too.
I bought an iPod Touch 4th Gen shortly after they came out. I love having access to Apple's Appstore. They have some great apps an games that I thoroughly enjoy. I would never have an iPhone as my primary phone, Android is so so much better an so much more fun. I do have an iPhone 4 that I got from a friend. I never activated it, just use it as a second iPod basically. I've jailbroke it, customized it some, used the Cydia apps, and I just don't see how so many people love those devices. It is so much slower than my Evo 3D even before root an overclocking. Evo 3D camera sucks, my Evo 4G was better, but its better then the iPhone camera.
Apple devices get boring quick!! I feel they have 3 owner categories: social status buyers, those who don't know better, an those who want a dumbed down an easy to use smart device.....
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stanglifemike said:
I think its mainly just a social standpoint piece. People want others to see them with an Apple device. Some see so many going crazy over Apple products an assume that they are superior products, because they simply don't know better. Others I believe buy them for what they are, easy to use, anyone can figure it out, modern electronic devices.
My younger sister has an iPod touch (never any apps on it, just music. Any mp3 can do that), an iPad 2(very very few apps), an is getting an iPhone when her contract is up. She currently has an Android phone. I looked at it the other day an asked why she had less than 10 apps an only 1 home screen setup on a phone she's had almost 2 years. Get reply was that she isn't in to that kinda stuff. What!!?? LOL. Yet all you can talk about is wanting an iPhone an using your iPad!!!??? If all you care about is texting an placing calls, then get a Jitterbug!!! Its just a social status for her. She is 24 too.
I bought an iPod Touch 4th Gen shortly after they came out. I love having access to Apple's Appstore. They have some great apps an games that I thoroughly enjoy. I would never have an iPhone as my primary phone, Android is so so much better an so much more fun. I do have an iPhone 4 that I got from a friend. I never activated it, just use it as a second iPod basically. I've jailbroke it, customized it some, used the Cydia apps, and I just don't see how so many people love those devices. It is so much slower than my Evo 3D even before root an overclocking. Evo 3D camera sucks, my Evo 4G was better, but its better then the iPhone camera.
Apple devices get boring quick!! I feel they have 3 owner categories: social status buyers, those who don't know better, an those who want a dumbed down an easy to use smart device.....
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I agree. I think for majority of iPhone 4 and Ipad owners its more of a social status thing. its like having designer clothing and wearing Jordan sneakers. people go crazy over it just so they show it off and be like hey, look at me. I'm cool too...lol. iPhone and Ipad are really good devices. But not superior like most tend to believe. Apple is just a marketing genius and their app store had a headstart. ill give apple credit for making tablets popular or making them mainstream. they didn't create the market but made it popular instead.
I'd tend to think most apple device owners like to keep up with the Jones's. if you know what i mean.
The thing is though when everyone does something it goes beyond cool and becomes the normal! And something else becomes cool then the cycle repeates!
Apple will eventually slump...
It will go in and out just like fashion does every so many years..
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Then, thinking about it, if I were to get a tablet for little tyke, an iPad would be tops on the list right now. It's a great learning tool. And $400 one-time payment for an instant babysitter is not bad.
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I think it's interesting how you put this: it's a "great learning tool" and an "instant babysitter." No offense meant anywhere here--I'm a parent, and I know how blissful a few minutes of peace can be.
However, I don't think tablets and smartphones and such are "great learning tools." I think they reinforce the notion that kids have today that learning has to be entertainment. I'm of an age where I remember learning math, vocab, grammar, science, etc., etc., the hard, boring way--and I'm convinced that I learned more and better skills that way. Later in life, today's kids aren't going to be entertained every second in their jobs, which is why I think so many young people today don't perform well.
I'd say that a tablet for a kid makes for a decent toy, and can definitely provide a better form of entertainment than TV. But I would never call it a "great learning tool." And, if I were to get my son a tablet, it would be an Android tablet--at least that way he can learn to explore a device and devise ways to make it fit his needs, even how to dig into something and modify it, like rooting and such (which is why I think a $149 Nexus tablet would be EXCELLENT).
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Wordlywisewiz said:
The thing is though when everyone does something it goes beyond cool and becomes the normal! And something else becomes cool then the cycle repeates!
Apple will eventually slump...
It will go in and out just like fashion does every so many years..
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Here's what I think: Apple seems to be eating into their profit margins with the iPad. This will only get worse as lower-priced (and higher-quality) Android tablets continue to hit the market. Since it's such a huge portion of their overall profits that have been driving their stock price, any reduction will have an impact going forward.
I think a $149 (or even $199) Google Nexus tablet of any decent quality and marketed well could be a killer. They WILL eat into Apple's market share, and Apple will be forced to either come out with a lower-priced iPad (thus destroying their place at the top and validating lower-cost products), and/or continue to eat into their margins.
Bottom line: I think we could see Apple's stock price drop considerably over the next few years. And as that happens, they'll stop getting all of the attention from the media. The same cycle of hype driving stock price driving hype driving stock price could reverse pretty quickly. All that depends on Google doing some smart things, of course, and there's absolutely no guarantee that they will.
OP is ultra tier troll. Kudos to you, emote.
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Apple made a mistake going with a hi res screen, making a heavier and thicker tablet. On a 9.7" tablet, the better screen is not that noticeable. I saw the thing at the store. basically an overkill. Heavier and thicker is a big step backward. Apple wasted a year and an upgrade. I'm not gonna upgrade my wife's ipad2. I'm so tired of columnists praising the new ipad. I hope there are more article like this on cnet , speaking the truth (that the better screen isn't that different).
Threads like these are sad.
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Maybe they just want a tablet which works out of the box? And they think "Well, the $100 doesn't matter to me if I get a better screen and newer iPad". Android is great for people who want to change things on their tablet, but not for people who just want it to work.
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Apple made a mistake going with a hi res screen, making a heavier and thicker tablet. On a 9.7" tablet, the better screen is not that noticeable. I saw the thing at the store. basically an overkill. Heavier and thicker is a big step backward. Apple wasted a year and an upgrade. I'm not gonna upgrade my wife's ipad2. I'm so tired of columnists praising the new ipad. I hope there are more article like this on cnet , speaking the truth (that the better screen isn't that different).
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Sure, you will not notice the screen is better but will notice it is a full 0,6 mm thicker and 50 grams heavier.. I mean come on, the first minute you will notice it is heavier (not even it is thinker) and then it isn't noticeable anymore.
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Apple made a mistake going with a hi res screen, making a heavier and thicker tablet. On a 9.7" tablet, the better screen is not that noticeable. I saw the thing at the store. basically an overkill. Heavier and thicker is a big step backward. Apple wasted a year and an upgrade. I'm not gonna upgrade my wife's ipad2. I'm so tired of columnists praising the new ipad. I hope there are more article like this on cnet , speaking the truth (that the better screen isn't that different).
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there's actually more and more of those articles popping up. that people actually can't even tell the difference between the two displays side by side.
plus I did a little test of sorts last night. using opera browser I was looking at the font. I have good vision so it all looks clear to me. then I zoomed it up to the Max. the font still looks very clear and no jagged edges or anything. plus I can't see any pixels or whatever.
IMO, this shot looks clean as a mofo. so for me, the higher screen resolution is a bonus, but by far is needed. I came from an ipad1 resolution to the Prime 1280x800 resolution. now that's a bigger difference in clarity and why I think Prime has a great display itself.
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there's actually more and more of those articles popping up. that people actually can't even tell the difference between the two displays side by side.
plus I did a little test of sorts last night. using opera browser I was looking at the font. I have good vision so it all looks clear to me. then I zoomed it up to the Max. the font still looks very clear and no jagged edges or anything. plus I can't see any pixels or whatever.
IMO, this shot looks clean as a mofo. so for me, the higher screen resolution is a bonus, but by far is needed. I came from an ipad1 resolution to the Prime 1280x800 resolution. now that's a bigger difference in clarity and why I think Prime has a great display itself.
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iPad 1: 132 PPI
Prime: 149 PPI
new iPad: 264 PPI
Prime: 149 PPI
Sure dude, the iPad 1 vs Prime is a bigger difference.
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>And some people have no clue why they'd need a new android tab either... I mean, some ppl buy new things just because they're new. That's not just the case for apple.
When was the last time you see people get in line for a Dell or HP or anything Android...for days in advance?
For that matter, I'm hard pressed to think of any consumer product that had caused such anticipation, where even the act of waiting in line has become an "experience."
Beanies Babies? No...no lines, IIRC. Can anyone think of an equivalent example?
So, yes, it is really just the case for Apple, at least from my limited recollection.
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I'm pretty sure it took me a week to find a sprint store with my Evo 3D. Sure, there weren't massive lines but for how hard it was to get one, sure seemed that way.
Also, Nintendo Wii, Playstation 3 and XBox 360 all had massive lines. Apple isn't the only one. I remember seeing on the news that people were getting get shot for a Wii. Don't think I've heard of someone being shot for an iPad/iPhone.
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Hello all XDA Members
i wanted to know WHAT´s the reason why i should use an Android Phone instead of an iPhone.
iPhone got nice Apps ( high Quality ) & also the Phone itself looks nice. But im not sure if i should buy an iPhone or SGSIII
Hope you can gimme some good reasons
Greetz SpeedYY
Watch the videos here for some good reasons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557484
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Watch the videos here for some good reasons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557484
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but i hope that the SGSIII wont have these "On Screen Buttons" :/ i hate them somehow - i wanna get a feedback when i push a button and not just a vibration
You'd be happier without Android.
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If your okay with Apple's limitations and price point then the iPhone isn't a bad choice. What limitations you ask?
-Non-removable battery
-Non upgradable memory
-Proprietary charging cable (not a con if you already own some)
-Can't sideload apps without jailbreaking
-Device choice
-Custom launchers, keyboards, widgets, etc
Some people want something that just works, but others want something they can tinker with and personalize and don't mind dealing with issues. Sort of like the car enthusiast who buys the classic muscle car that might need some work compared to the average car driver who buys something new and reliable.
Also try checking this out.
I can't remember this list I came across at the moment but go to google and type in 20 things iPhone users can't do that android users can. If I find it tomorrow I'll post it.
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For me, the advantage of Android in contrast to Apple is that the most - and quite - Apps in the Play Store are for free.
One - and the almost - point is that you can change the battery in Android phones and in the iPhones series not. Also if your iPhone would be long used the memory effect takes effect and you can throw it away because repairing is more expensive than a new modell.
In Android phones you can change the battery if you have feeling that the battery lifetime is low.
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Hello all XDA Members
i wanted to know WHAT´s the reason why i should use an Android Phone instead of an iPhone.
iPhone got nice Apps ( high Quality ) & also the Phone itself looks nice. But im not sure if i should buy an iPhone or SGSIII
Hope you can gimme some good reasons
Greetz SpeedYY
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Nobody mentioned that you can't use flash with an iphone and you can't just download things on the Internet
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Nobody mentioned that you can't use flash with an iphone and you can't just download things on the Internet
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indeed! plus a 3.5" screen is just too small these days...
You will love iPhone iOS if :
1.You want something that is working for you and you willing to live with the same thing for quite a long time.
2.You won't bother if your neighbour's phone, your school teacher's phone, your auntie's phone, your baby sitter's (if you have kids ) phone are having ALL THE SAME design for hardware and software.
3.If you think that a phone can represent your status in the social.
4.If you are a boss (just kidding... it might be true sometimes, at somewhere...)
5.If you always worrying people find out what you did in last summer.
You will love Android phones if :
1.You easily get bored with what the stock is having and wish that you can do something about it.
2.You can't sleep well for few nights thinking why your neighbour's phone UI looks exactly the same as yours.
3.If you think that a smartphone must capable of doing more things and having more freedoms than iPhone.
4.If you want to take control over the phone instead of letting it control the way you live with it. (e.g : remove system apps that you don't want from your phone)
5.If you don't mind someone knows what you did in last summer.
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Nobody mentioned that you can't use flash with an iphone and you can't just download things on the Internet
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You can use flash on an iphone.
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indeed! plus a 3.5" screen is just too small these days...
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Beats the living hell out of a 4.5" screen. Or even worse, some bloated turd like the Note.
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This is the way I've started describing it:
iPhone = Automatic transmission car: All you have to do is hit the gas and it goes, you don't have as much control but you don't really realize it because of how nice it feels and how easy it is to drive.
Android = Manual transmission car: You have way more control and the potential to have more speed and power if you are a good driver. But it's not nearly as easy as an automatic and not everyone can handle it.
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This is the way I've started describing it:
iPhone = Automatic transmission car: All you have to do is hit the gas and it goes, you don't have as much control but you don't really realize it because of how nice it feels and how easy it is to drive.
Android = Manual transmission car: You have way more control and the potential to have more speed and power if you are a good driver. But it's not nearly as easy as an automatic and not everyone can handle it.
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i own a WP7 right now xD so it´s comparable with that Automatic transmission car either - nearly not customization- but works and the user doesn't realize it. And im sick of WP7 because they don´t have as many apps as all other OS' got. The second thing i hate about it is the way how you have to unlock it... COMPLICATED :/ ( i bricked my WP7 :'D ) - The third thing i hate about WP7 are the high prices for apps... ( 2,99€ for Doodle Jump -.- )
Android: custom Roms ( Lite'ning Rom for example - but unfortunately non of my friends is using a custom Rom for Android -.- ), easy sideloading, cheap apps ( dunno about the quality of the apps - if someone could tell me how the quality is like i would thank that guy - )
iPhone: high Quality apps, nice design, MUST HAVE PHONE
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Beats the living hell out of a 4.5" screen. Or even worse, some bloated turd like the Note.
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You must be a troll
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You must be a troll
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Having a 4.7" screen is great but 5.x" like the Note has just sucks...
MikeyMike01 said:
Beats the living hell out of a 4.5" screen. Or even worse, some bloated turd like the Note.
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Well the beauty of Android is you can pick the screen size anything from just over 3" to 5". Personally I don't want anything much over 4" and like a keyboard so the Droid 3 was my best choice. Phones shouldn't be one size fits all and manufacturers will build whatever size phones sell. Large screens has been an untapped market so 2012 is the year of large screens. But as long as there is demand for < 4" screens then they will still be produced.
So I came across this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAs3ZiPQl-U&feature=youtu.be&t=21m49s
It shows the sgs3 playing a video and running shadowgun at the same time seemingly flawlessly. I've always been pro-HTC, I went from the Touch Pro to the Evo and now I plan to get the EVO LTE. But despite my fanboyism, I have realized that HTC products usually don't perform as well as their samsung rivals in real world usage despite what the numbers and processors should theoretically be doing. I figured the Evo LTE and just about any high-end phone released in the past year can run everything on the market, who cares? Then I see something like this and it blows my mind. I'm almost tempted to jump ship.. but we'll see. What are your thoughts?
Zori said:
So I came across this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAs3ZiPQl-U&feature=youtu.be&t=21m49s
It shows the sgs3 playing a video and running shadowgun at the same time seemingly flawlessly. I've always been pro-HTC, I went from the Touch Pro to the Evo and now I plan to get the EVO LTE. But despite my fanboyism, I have realized that HTC products usually don't perform as well as their samsung rivals in real world usage despite what the numbers and processors should theoretically be doing. I figured the Evo LTE and just about any high-end phone released in the past year can run everything on the market, who cares? Then I see something like this and it blows my mind. I'm almost tempted to jump ship.. but we'll see. What are your thoughts?
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thats neat how did he play the video on top of the game, ???
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thats neat how did he play the video on top of the game, ???
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It's a new feature of the sgs3. It's a cool, novel feature I suppose. Maybe if you're playing a game and wanna watch a video of someone else doing it or something. But I'm more impressed with how well it did it all at once!
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thats neat how did he play the video on top of the game, ???
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click the link and you'll see. lol
thats honestly kinda cool there...not sure how often id use it but it brings PIP back in play but now on mobile phones.....though I hate TouchWiz with a passion so no way im going that route...
whats the real worl application for that function. i think its a pointless feature
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whats the real worl application for that function. i think its a pointless feature
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Agreed. At least for mobile phones... Could have some usage on tablets like taking a timed class and watching a video to pass the time.
The 24nm Krait S4 Snapdragon is a very capable chip. It should have no problems doing what you're video is doing or even running 2 HD movies simultaneously while running background tasks all simultaneously even on a screen as demanding as the new Evo's.
Samsung has done alot on the software side of things ..to me its more of a wow factor than something that I would ever use. If your in a store and stuck between two phones ..they show a gs3 doing pip and your sold ..not for me ..a cool but useless feature as well as the s talk or whatever it is ..I just don't imagine using it ..its a good phone tho ..you don't have to iuse those features ..to me the new evo is more desirable..and I believe the s4 is 28nm
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Samsung has done alot on the software side of things ..to me its more of a wow factor than something that I would ever use. If your in a store and stuck between two phones ..they show a gs3 doing pip and your sold ..not for me ..a cool but useless feature as well as the s talk or whatever it is ..I just don't imagine using it ..its a good phone tho ..you don't have to iuse those features ..to me the new evo is more desirable..and I believe the s4 is 28nm
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You sir are correct, apologies for the typo. The Krait s4 snapdragons are indeed 28nm.
I have no doubt the EVO 4G LTE could do this, and probably the galaxy s2 as well. What I really don't know is why you would need or want to do this other than to showoff.
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whats the real worl application for that function. i think its a pointless feature
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You could write notes, respond to a text, make an appointment, send an email, etc, without having to pause and back out of the video you are watching.
I think its far from pointless. People seem to assign the words "pointless" "useless" and "gimmick" to any feature that doesn't fit their personal lifestyle. Keep an open mind
Samsung says this is something new and groundbreaking that just came out with. BS!!! There is already an app in the Play Store that can do this on the phone in your hand right now. Check out app developers MBFG, I believe they may even be a XDA member. They have an app called OverSkreen that allows you to have a webpage on top of any other screen on your device. I use OverSkreen on my tablet and love it! They have another app that plays videos on top of any other screen just like the Galaxy S3, it's called Stick It! (and yes the "!" is part of the app's name, lol). Check it out. Funny Samsung lies saying how they created the idea an that the GS3 is the only phone that can do this, when in fact any Android phone with the app Stick It!! can do it!!!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myboyfriendisageek.stickit
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The PIP function on the SG3 is not new. There is an app in the market called stick it, for $1.49 that does the same thing. I bought it a couple weeks ago, and it works very well, even though honestly, there isnt really any practical use for it. Many of the software tweaks that samsung is bui8ldin ginto the SG3 are impressive, but not original. You can duplicate just about every functionality they bragged about at the announcement with apps found in the market, or on custom roms readily available for most phones. Ultimately, because the US version will not have the quad core processor, and because i have always found samsung phones to feel cheap in my hand, im going with HTC, whose build quality is usually very good. Oh yeah, that and the pen tile screen on the SG3.... thats a deal breaker for me too
ltracte said:
The PIP function on the SG3 is not new. There is an app in the market called stick it, for $1.49 that does the same thing. I bought it a couple weeks ago, and it works very well, even though honestly, there isnt really any practical use for it. Many of the software tweaks that samsung is bui8ldin ginto the SG3 are impressive, but not original. You can duplicate just about every functionality they bragged about at the announcement with apps found in the market, or on custom roms readily available for most phones. Ultimately, because the US version will not have the quad core processor, and because i have always found samsung phones to feel cheap in my hand, im going with HTC, whose build quality is usually very good. Oh yeah, that and the pen tile screen on the SG3.... thats a deal breaker for me too
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What an awesome app. Thanks for that!
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Theoretically, probably. In reality, probably not, if the EVO LTE has the multitasking issue that the ONE X has, which it probably will as HTC customized the multitasking to be so aggressive/ineffective. Really bummed about this. I hope all this is not the case. Show me wrong, HTC.
This concerns me.
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What an awesome app. Thanks for that!
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Check out my post above the one you quoted. I mentioned that app as well, but commenting because you should also try out the web browser I aso mentioned. It's by the same dev as the floating video app. OverSkreen is the browsers name and it's awesome!!
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Back to the topic at hand...
Theoretically, probably. In reality, probably not, if the EVO LTE has the multitasking issue that the ONE X has, which it probably will as HTC customized the multitasking to be so aggressive/ineffective. Really bummed about this. I hope all this is not the case. Show me wrong, HTC.
This concerns me.
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Regardless of HTC botching the multi-tasking of Android, our EVOs will still be able to do this easily. Did you forget what website you're on??
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PsiPhiDan said:
Regardless of HTC botching the multi-tasking of Android, our EVOs will still be able to do this easily. Did you forget what website you're on??
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After custom rom kernel whatevers, sure. Out of the box, might not be able to. Dunno yet
I can Skype and surf the web!
freeza said:
What an awesome app. Thanks for that!
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my first thanks! welcome!
I'm currently on android and thinking about getting an iphone, can u guys give me some reasons to support which ever u choose xda has never let me down so let the battle begin!!!!
Check these videos, decide yourself after watch them.
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I'm currently on android and thinking about getting an iphone, can u guys give me some reasons to support which ever u choose xda has never let me down so let the battle begin!!!!
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And somewhat subtle too
http://www.lockergnome.com/android/2011/12/26/five-reasons-to-choose-android-over-ios/
If XDA has never let you down then I'll assume you've actually perused the forums previously. If that's the case you should know the benefits of Android over iOS in most cases and the few instances in which iOS is better. If you can't make a decision based upon that then no words offered here will help you. Happy trolling.
iOS is made of junk. Both hardware and software. If you buy an iPhone take care to "hold it the right way".
stick with android, also, your on an android forum, so the reviews will be biased.
i have had both, and android phones are better.
I develop for both Android and iOS so I'll would hope I'm not biased towards one of the other.
In my experience, development on iOS is easier. The tools you get with XCode are far superior than Android/Eclipse especially when it comes to building your User Interface.
Downside with iOS is that it requires you to buy a Mac and then to spend the time learning Objective-C. For most Java developers, Android is just another library so the learning curve is lower.
Brian
Android without question.
No explanation required. lol
Every things better with Android!! With and android if you don't like some thing you can change it but with IOS you stuck with it weather you like it or not. Plus the custom roms on android is what IOS users dream of.
I've personally owned numerous iOS devices as they progressed and I have owned numerous Android devices as they, too, have progressed. I was also, for a decently long time, a heavy iPhone fan. I can say that iPhone will have Android beat in some cases (depending on what devices you compare), but if you compare both iOS and Android top-of-the-line devices, Android wins, hands down. The product is of better quality, the OS is as simple or as complex as you want to get, the specs are better, and the freedom is outrageously more substantial. With iOS, it is simple, it is more integrated, but it just isn't as great as the customization, enhancement, and freedom that android offers.
Android offers freedom, fun, and customization, whilst maintaining simplicity.
iPhone offers simplicity.
Its still ultimately your call, but I'm gonna side with Android. (This, coming from an old iPhone die-hard.)
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and if you go to an iOS forum,they will tell you to stick with iOS,so,its up to you
Here is a side-by-side comparison I captured from Wirefly. It compares the iPhone 4S to the Hottest Androids right now and then it compares the 3GS to several free Androids.
Sorry about the size. They needed to be big to read.
First
iPhone 4S versus hot Android phones.
Then 3GS versus several free Android phones.
It's The Same Thing... In The End, Your Gonna Make Calls, Texts, And Download Apps.
If you go android don't go cheap to compete with the like of the iPhone you have to have the best ..if you go cheap then you are likely to have freeze ups and etc then complain about how you hate android when in actuality its not android its the hardware and the manufacturers customization to the software..so I suggest you start with the elite in the android world as a start ..also iPhone is nice I'm not going to lie..but its limited by a lot so the only thing cool is the apps but who cares android has all the same apps ...iOS is sort of customizable if you jailbreak it but nowhere near as much as android also sometimes to me when jail broken and all of the stuff you do to customize it Iphones seem less stable ..in the end its really up to you simple and straight forward (iPhone)...or simple as you want it to be (android)
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and if you go to an iOS forum,they will tell you to stick with iOS,so,its up to you
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Good answer
I have both, there are advantages and disadvantages of each.
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Apple is a patent troll that wants to destroy all competition by patenting existing technology and suing others for using it. I would never buy one of their products, I'd go back to using a dumb phone if that was the only other option, and if Apple gets their way dumb phones will be the only other option.
They are both good os but Android is better. iOS is so plan and not funny has so many restrictions Android is free and wild. There are other reasons but this is the first thing I'll say.
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Apple is a patent troll that wants to destroy all competition by patenting existing technology and suing others for using it. I would never buy one of their products, I'd go back to using a dumb phone if that was the only other option, and if Apple gets their way dumb phones will be the only other option.
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lol Same here.
I would honestly go without a phone at all before I bought something from apple.
I would also go without a laptop or desktop, or any other computer before I used ios.
. I would use window$ first
(shudders at the thought).
Cross my heart n hope to die, stick a needle in apples (i). :good:
Today, Android 4.1（jelly bean）is better.