Will this work on any Tablet thats ROOTED? So i would just download it...and set whatever preferences i want? (Within my range that is). Don't need to have nothing special to have or use this app besides being ROOTED?
Well, ideally, yes, it should work on any "rooted" device... unless the kernel restricts scaling... something like perflock in HTC kernels (SetCPU works with perflock, but something similar custom to another manufacturer might prevent scaling).
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Well, ideally, yes, it should work on any "rooted" device... unless the kernel restricts scaling... something like perflock in HTC kernels (SetCPU works with perflock, but something similar custom to another manufacturer might prevent scaling).
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Do you have a GTab? What would you know about it working with a GTab? My Tab runs fine. Doubt there is a real NEED for me to try this. Then blow something up lol.
SetCPU or CPU master only works on kernel that have OC enabled. It will not OC stock kernel even if rooted.
SetCPU latest version also allow undervolting to keep the GTAB running cooler. Reduce voltage by -50mv on all setting above 1000 will be fine. Most GTAB ROM have the Pershoot kernel preloaded now and it is OC enabled to 1.4Ghz.
As of now, 1.4Ghz OC is so stable, it is a breeze to enable. Don't worry.
Good luck.
I'm not too savvy with this kinda stuff. If i do something wrong...could ruin the Tab. Is yours 1.4GHz? Does it seem WAY MORE faster then it was? I mean..if its that much worth it...send me a PM...with steps for me to do...ill give it a go. As long as it wont overheat an nothiong bad happens.
By the way..i have VEGAn TAB Gingerbread Edition 7.0. Which was on my Tab when i got it. Dont know any other info.
Oh..the kernal version says: 2.6.32.36-cyanogenmod [email protected] #1.
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I'm not too savvy with this kinda stuff. If i do something wrong...could ruin the Tab. Is yours 1.4GHz? Does it seem WAY MORE faster then it was? I mean..if its that much worth it...send me a PM...with steps for me to do...ill give it a go. As long as it wont overheat an nothiong bad happens.
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If you are using a stock factory ROM then you cannot overclock, you need to flash a custom ROM which includes the OC enabled kernel. If you have no idea how to flash a custom ROM then you should just use the GTAB as is but change the Launcher to VTL to make it more Android like.
If you are using a custom ROM, then install SetCPU and set it to 1.4Ghz to test the tablet but do not set it on boot until you are happy with it.
The gtab flies when overclocked, even @ 1.4ghz you can feel how fast the menu works, I currently run at 1.6Ghz
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If you are using a stock factory ROM then you cannot overclock, you need to flash a custom ROM which includes the OC enabled kernel. If you have no idea how to flash a custom ROM then you should just use the GTAB as is but change the Launcher to VTL to make it more Android like.
If you are using a custom ROM, then install SetCPU and set it to 1.4Ghz to test the tablet but do not set it on boot until you are happy with it.
The gtab flies when overclocked, even @ 1.4ghz you can feel how fast the menu works, I currently run at 1.6Ghz
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Ok...my Tablet is ROOTED. I stated it was VEGAn TAB Gingerbread Edition 7.0. Which was on my Tab when i got it. Dont know any other info. VEGAn is a custom ROM isnt it?
Oh..the kernal version says: 2.6.32.36-cyanogenmod [email protected] #1. That is the Kernal. So what would be the exact steps? Just download SetCPU...and put in the GHz? No doing anything with CWM? And with the specs i just said..is this device compatible?
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Ok...my Tablet is ROOTED. I stated it was VEGAn TAB Gingerbread Edition 7.0. Which was on my Tab when i got it. Dont know any other info. VEGAn is a custom ROM isnt it?
Oh..the kernal version says: 2.6.32.36-cyanogenmod [email protected] #1. That is the Kernal. So what would be the exact steps? Just download SetCPU...and put in the GHz? No doing anything with CWM? And with the specs i just said..is this device compatible?
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SetCPU is quite simple to use... and yes, there are no problems with the latest SetCPU versions which have support of Dual Core chipsets... install the app... move the sliders to adjust the speed... you can make the changes permanent by selecting the apply on boot checkbox...
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SetCPU is quite simple to use... and yes, there are no problems with the latest SetCPU versions which have support of Dual Core chipsets... install the app... move the sliders to adjust the speed... you can make the changes permanent by selecting the apply on boot checkbox...
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When you say make it permanent...when i check the apply on boot...it will always boot up that way right? But if i ever wanted to go back to like it was....do i need to remember all the settings or is there a 1 step process to put everything back like it was?
Cant be as easy as you say...theres certain settings to NOT go over and such. Thats what im trying to find out now. The correct settings and if it will work with what i have..in terms of Kernel.
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When you say make it permanent...when i check the apply on boot...it will always boot up that way right? But if i ever wanted to go back to like it was....do i need to remember all the settings or is there a 1 step process to put everything back like it was?
Cant be as easy as you say...theres certain settings to NOT go over and such. Thats what im trying to find out now. The correct settings and if it will work with what i have..in terms of Kernel.
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Actually, it is that easy. The Android kernel provides a list of speeds. SetCPU uses that list. Most common kernels are very conservative in what they allow. If you look hard, you can probably find a kernel that allows you to drive your CPU faster than it can handle, but they are usually well-labelled as such. I know there was a kernel for my G2/Vision/Desire Z that allowed the stock-1ghz processor to be overclocked to over 2ghz. Very few units were reliable at that speed, but some people like to push the envelope.
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Actually, it is that easy. The Android kernel provides a list of speeds. SetCPU uses that list. Most common kernels are very conservative in what they allow. If you look hard, you can probably find a kernel that allows you to drive your CPU faster than it can handle, but they are usually well-labelled as such. I know there was a kernel for my G2/Vision/Desire Z that allowed the stock-1ghz processor to be overclocked to over 2ghz. Very few units were reliable at that speed, but some people like to push the envelope.
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What about the settings for MY G Tablet? What would they be if you know?
In about device..it says Kernel Version:2.6.32.36-cyanogenmod [email protected] #1. Would the SetCPU work with this?????????? The thing im worried about the most...is putting the wrong settings...and have my Tablet overheat then somehow blow up from there lol. You know. I just want the right settings. Does anyone know the correct settings?
No way to brick the phone by mistake using this? What are the bad side effects?
I dont need to try to do something crazy. Just a little more speed. I notice it takes longer to start up now. That VEGAn TAB blinking screen stays on longer then before.
Edit 2: One more question..if there was something you didnt like about it...does just uninstalling it put your phone right back to how it was? Or a little more tweaking you need to do before you uninstall?
Edit 3: Now im reading it can't be uninstalled huh? Except with ROOT Explorer. But even with that...when i uninstall it..does all settings goe back to like you had it before?
Setcpu is simple:
1.Turn on app
2.Select - detect settings automatically
3. Slide the adjustment bar to min on bottom and max on top.
4. Uninstall and all will be normal
5. Quit now if you're scared of "blowing up" your tab, seriously its not difficult
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Setcpu is simple:
1.Turn on app
2.Select - detect settings automatically
3. Slide the adjustment bar to min on bottom and max on top.
4. Uninstall and all will be normal
5. Quit now if you're scared of "blowing up" your tab, seriously its not difficult
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Hmmm ok. But the uninstall part. I've heard stories on the net you can't just uninstall..that it won't let you. Thats what kinda got me.
So when it detects my kernel..it sets everything up automatically? The adjustment bar...any specific number to slide it to for a certain tablet? thanks for the reply.
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Hmmm ok. But the uninstall part. I've heard stories on the net you can't just uninstall..that it won't let you. Thats what kinda got me.
So when it detects my kernel..it sets everything up automatically? The adjustment bar...any specific number to slide it to for a certain tablet? thanks for the reply.
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tenet420 has it right.
SetCPU will do the work for you and yes you can uninstall it.
Now, take a deep breath and have fun!
AND...make a nandroid backup before you fiddle with stuff.
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tenet420 has it right.
SetCPU will do the work for you and yes you can uninstall it.
Now, take a deep breath and have fun!
AND...make a nandroid backup before you fiddle with stuff.
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Im not to savvy on this stuff. And thanks alot man for the confirm. Im trying to feel really comfortable before i do it. And get all the info i can.
Nandroid backup meaning just use Titanium backup and click backup and backup everything? Or....a little different? Sounds like you mean backup the ROM so all goes well. Thanks alot for that to.
Edit: And what about setting Profiles part. What is that all about..or will that come up as i set it up? And do i do that? Heard it causes freezes.
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Im not to savvy on this stuff. And thanks alot man for the confirm. Im trying to feel really comfortable before i do it. And get all the info i can.
Nandroid backup meaning just use Titanium backup and click backup and backup everything? Or....a little different? Sounds like you mean backup the ROM so all goes well. Thanks alot for that to.
Edit: And what about setting Profiles part. What is that all about..or will that come up as i set it up? And do i do that? Heard it causes freezes.
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Nandroid backup thru ClockworkMod. VEGAn 7.0 has it installed. Look at ROM Manager (presuming you have it installed) and check the top entry (ClockWorkMod) a.k.a. CWM. Not sure exactly which version the GTab uses (search the Forums) and check you are running that one.
Boot to CWM and navigate to Backup and Restore. Choose Backup. That will make a full backup of yout GTab so if you foul up anything you can Restore back to just before your started any changes. (A life-saver, really). It backs up your ROM, settings, etc etc. TiBu (Titanium Backup) only backs up apps.
Trust me. You will learn more from screwing up than anything! I sure did! And still do.
Do a nandroid backup then report back. One step at a time.
Here's where you can follow to install ClockWork Mod (CWM) just in case.
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Nandroid backup thru ClockworkMod. VEGAn 7.0 has it installed. Look at ROM Manager (presuming you have it installed) and check the top entry (ClockWorkMod) a.k.a. CWM. Not sure exactly which version the GTab uses (search the Forums) and check you are running that one.
Boot to CWM and navigate to Backup and Restore. Choose Backup. That will make a full backup of yout GTab so if you foul up anything you can Restore back to just before your started any changes. (A life-saver, really). It backs up your ROM, settings, etc etc. TiBu (Titanium Backup) only backs up apps.
Trust me. You will learn more from screwing up than anything! I sure did! And still do.
Do a nandroid backup then report back. One step at a time.
Here's where you can follow to install ClockWork Mod (CWM) just in case.
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Damn..was hoping to avoid this kinda stuff lol. Well..i must have CWM right? Since i have the VEGAn TAB 7.0. Man...im always afraid to try this boot in CWM stuff..in case something goes wrong.
To get OUT of CWM..just restart the Tablet right? Say i go into CWM now...and say "Nevermind"...to get out..just restart?
Edit: In one of my posts on here..someone said ROM Manager was BAD for this device. 2 people said that. I hope i find which thread its in. I think the ROM Manager thread i made. So thats why i never installed it. Otherwise..it sounded like the easiest way for me to do all this ROM switching stuff. But said it was bad for this Tablet.
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Damn..was hoping to avoid this kinda stuff lol. Well..i must have CWM right? Since i have the VEGAn TAB 7.0. Man...im always afraid to try this boot in CWM stuff..in case something goes wrong.
To get OUT of CWM..just restart the Tablet right? Say i go into CWM now...and say "Nevermind"...to get out..just restart?
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You really need CWM. Believe me, you will use it and feel better and better about it as you learn.
To get "out" of CWM keep toggling till you get to Reboot. It will show at the top of the menu.
I just remembered that with the version of CWM the GTab uses you might not see the Reboot choice but will see a line pop up that says something like Back Button Enabled (or something like that). That's your cue to toggle up and down the Volume key once or twice and the menu will change. Then you will see the Reboot option appear.
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You really need CWM. Believe me, you will use it and feel better and better about it as you learn.
To get "out" of CWM keep toggling till you get to Reboot. It will show at the top of the menu.
I just remembered that with the version of CWM the GTab uses you might not see the Reboot choice but will see a line pop up that says something like Back Button Enabled (or something like that). That's your cue to toggle up and down the Volume key once or twice and the menu will change. Then you will see the Reboot option appear.
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So all the ways differs with different tablets???? Do YOU have a GTab? Im trying to get someone who has one..then tell me exactly what they did..and if theres is running good...i would know mine will..you know.
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Is it possible to make a custom ROM from an already running system? Some manufacturers don't update their phones (believe me, there are those minor companies that don't care at all), and users would be stuck to their stock ROM.
Soo, is it possible? Will copying all files from the root partition to the PC, modify with the usual tools, then zip, then flash, work?
Just curious
It's possible to work with a nandroid if that's what you mean, yes.
By the way, you shouldn't underclock your Optimus. That'll drain more battery, trust me, I did the same.
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It's possible to work with a nandroid if that's what you mean, yes.
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How about not using a nandroid backup? I was thinking this would work because I had a look at the contents of the root directory of the phone, and then I had another look at a custom rom zip on my computer. I may sound stupid saying this, but I'm just curious xD
By the way, you shouldn't underclock your Optimus. That'll drain more battery, trust me, I did the same.
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I've left the values as it is, but I forgot to update my sig. Anyway, thanks I uses the same power if the voltage isn't changed, right?
EDIT: About the ROM thing, I get it now. Never saw those .img files til now. Trying it out
Hello guys. I'm new to smartphones and Vibrant is my first. I bought one off ebay for $240 and it has Android version 2.1-update1 installed on it. I would like to know if you guys recommend that I ungrade it to Froyo or above. I've heard some bad things about Froyo and wouldnt like to regret doing the update. I've already backed up all apps on the phone. Just need your professional opinion on this matter. Thank you.
Well welcome to the world of the samsung Vibrant, lol, well obviously froyo us the best and You should upgrade and if you want, You should root your device and learn to put a "ROM" on ur phone like the ones below, and FYI, since u posted this in the wrong place, your gonna get flamed, next time post in vibrant Q and A.
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Well welcome to the world of the samsung Vibrant, lol, well obviously froyo us the best and You should upgrade and if you want, You should root your device and learn to put a "ROM" on ur phone like the ones below, and FYI, since u posted this in the wrong place, your gonna get flamed, next time post in vibrant Q and A.
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Ive already rooted the phone and unlocked it. How do I set the ROM? What is ROM?
mbison83 said:
Ive already rooted the phone and unlocked it. How do I set the ROM? What is ROM?
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A ROM is pretty much your OS. All these Froyo ROMs are really good, just know how to flash properly. I STRONGLY suggest you:
1) Consistently backup all your apps with "Titanium Backup" and google, AND make a copy of all your data on your computer.
2) READ, I suggest you read the Bible (it's Stickied at the top) and LEARN before you do ANYTHING.
3) And lastly, when you mess up, as EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE has, you will need to know how to revert back to STOCK firmware.
Keep this link close, it will save your neck:
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/09/how-to-restore-or-recover-your-samsung-vibrant/
check out the rom vibrant bible thread all ur answers will be ther enjoy, oh and yes upgrade to froyo
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A ROM is pretty much your OS. All these Froyo ROMs are really good, just know how to flash properly. I STRONGLY suggest you:
1) Consistently backup all your apps with "Titanium Backup" and google, AND make a copy of all your data on your computer.
2) READ, I suggest you read the Bible (it's Stickied at the top) and LEARN before you do ANYTHING.
3) And lastly, when you mess up, as EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE has, you will need to know how to revert back to STOCK firmware.
Keep this link close, it will save your neck:
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/09/how-to-restore-or-recover-your-samsung-vibrant/
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For some reason Titanium Backup does not work for me. When I run it I get 0 as a number of apps installed and when I click backup all apps and system files it immediately says backup completed. I've been using the Flii Backup. Is that okay? How do I copy all the stuff to my PC? Thank you for all the info.
Also, should I go with the 2.3 Gingerbread version instead?
mbison83 said:
For some reason Titanium Backup does not work for me. When I run it I get 0 as a number of apps installed and when I click backup all apps and system files it immediately says backup completed. I've been using the Flii Backup. Is that okay? How do I copy all the stuff to my PC? Thank you for all the info.
Also, should I go with the 2.3 Gingerbread version instead?
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when you open Titanium Backup, does it say that it has been granted SU permissions?
If it does, then we're good so far. I've had that happen when I first used TiB on my hubby's phone. The way I got over that was to hit the menu button and select "Batch". You should now be on the Batch Backup/Restore - ALL page. From there, I selected RUN for "Backup all user apps + system data". That should force TiB to go ahead and make the backups.
Now, as for copying the files over onto your PC, just use plug in your USB cable and connect it to your PC. Your phone should emit a little tone or vibrate after this (or at least mine does but it's been a long time since I've used stock). From there, slide down your notifications bar (slide your finger from the top of the screen to the bottom of it) and you should see a note telling you that your USB is connected and if you hit that, it will ask you if you would like to mount your SD card (or something similar to that). Select "yes" and your PC will ask you if you want to open these "drives". Select "yes" again and now you will be able to explore the files on your phone the same way you'd do it on your PC.
As for the whole copy+paste thing, the files work the same as if you're copying files around your PC. Generally, I keep multiple backups on my PC, so it might be a smart idea to label your Titanium Backup file with name or date (ie: Titanium Backup - Stock JFD or Titanium Backup - ROMname blahKernel).
Afaik, we don't have a stable Gingerbread ROM yet but I think our devs are getting pretty close. However, we have several stable Froyo ROMs available in the Android Dev section.
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when you open Titanium Backup, does it say that it has been granted SU permissions?
If it does, then we're good so far. I've had that happen when I first used TiB on my hubby's phone. The way I got over that was to hit the menu button and select "Batch". You should now be on the Batch Backup/Restore - ALL page. From there, I selected RUN for "Backup all user apps + system data". That should force TiB to go ahead and make the backups.
Now, as for copying the files over onto your PC, just use plug in your USB cable and connect it to your PC. Your phone should emit a little tone or vibrate after this (or at least mine does but it's been a long time since I've used stock). From there, slide down your notifications bar (slide your finger from the top of the screen to the bottom of it) and you should see a note telling you that your USB is connected and if you hit that, it will ask you if you would like to mount your SD card (or something similar to that). Select "yes" and your PC will ask you if you want to open these "drives". Select "yes" again and now you will be able to explore the files on your phone the same way you'd do it on your PC.
As for the whole copy+paste thing, the files work the same as if you're copying files around your PC. Generally, I keep multiple backups on my PC, so it might be a smart idea to label your Titanium Backup file with name or date (ie: Titanium Backup - Stock JFD or Titanium Backup - ROMname blahKernel).
Afaik, we don't have a stable Gingerbread ROM yet but I think our devs are getting pretty close. However, we have several stable Froyo ROMs available in the Android Dev section.
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Yes. It seems to work now. I've used the Clockwork Recovery app and did backup through it. Would that be enough? Where is the Android Dev section? What do I do next? Thank you.
As far as the ROM goes. Which one would you recommend? I was looking at the Axura 2.3.1.0 and Ginger Clone R2. How about Nero v5? Thanks guys!
Welcome! And yes you should definitely update to Froyo, or a rom based on Froyo. I'm not sure what you heard that soured your opinion of Froyo...but it is a noticeable performance upgrade! It's been a while but I'm pretty sure the JIT compiler was introduced with 2.2 (someone fact check me pls) which should improve java performance multiple times.
I recommend Bionix-V 1.21 for a custom ROM made especially for the Vibrant. It's extremely fast and the community is friendly, helpful, and most importantly VERY active. I linked you to a guide that should answer any questions you might have regarding the rom, and android in general.
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Welcome! And yes you should definitely update to Froyo, or a rom based on Froyo. I'm not sure what you heard that soured your opinion of Froyo...but it is a noticeable performance upgrade! It's been a while but I'm pretty sure the JIT compiler was introduced with 2.2 (someone fact check me pls) which should improve java performance multiple times.
I recommend Bionix-V 1.21 for a custom ROM made especially for the Vibrant. It's extremely fast and the community is friendly, helpful, and most importantly VERY active. I linked you to a guide that should answer any questions you might have regarding the rom, and android in general.
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Thank you. Unfortunately the link does not work for me. It wants me to sign up.
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Thank you. Unfortunately the link does not work for me. It wants me to sign up.
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Yeah, forgot to mention that...but hey if you're gonna try the rom you might as well join their site ;P
Update: Ok, guys. I went to this link and got the Axura 2.3.1.0 installed with the use of this video, which is very useful and I was able to perform this flash flawlessly.
Anyway, The ROM is really responsive and I have only found one flaw, which is that the Fast Web Install app does not work on it. I get the message that they are working on it. Also, the Titanium Backup did not back up anything. All was backed up by the ROM Manager and the Flii Backup.
This ROM has impressed me with its responsiveness. It seems like a high-quality ROM and this is the first time I did the flash, so I'm not familiar with other ROMs. However, this ROM seems like a good pick for now at least. Can you guys advise me where I can sign up for notifications about the Axura updates? Any further suggestions? I appreciate your precious time.
In the Questions and Answers section, at the top, there is a NOOB guide... I would HIGHLY suggest reading it. It explains just about EVERYTHING you could want to do to your new phone!
As far as your next mod... start customizing your phone! Go to the Theme section of the forum and browse around for some custom battery mods and framework mods. It's CRAZY amazing how customizable these phones are!
I used to use the ROM's on here, but since Froyo came out, I'm sticking with a deodexed stock of KB1 (the latest and greatest update). That allows me to modify my framework and all the phone images without having to worry about screwing up one of the custom ROMs out there. I always feel safer with stock... plus root of course. Replaced my boot and shutdown animations with custom ones I created... don't have them posted on here as they are made specifically for my band and noone here would want them!
Keep your contacts synced to google so you don't lose them, backup with Titanium every once in a while to keep your game data and app data up to date, keep reading on here about modding, you could start reading the google developers website to learn about the inner workings of Android and how to write programs... so much to do and so little time in life!!!
Enjoy!
P.S. Everything that I've done to my phone (and it is quite a bit) I've done myself simply by reading these forums and researching everything on my own... you would be surprised how little you have to post questions on here if you simply take some time and read everyone else's posts. The search button up on top of every page is very useful!
Hey I have a froyo 2.2 vibrant running Team Whisky's Bionix touchwiz custom rom. Is it possible to overclock my phone?
How do i even start this?! sorry im a total n00b
kevho00 said:
Hey I have a froyo 2.2 vibrant running Team Whisky's Bionix touchwiz custom rom. Is it possible to overclock my phone?
How do i even start this?! sorry im a total n00b
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install A new kernel on it
dead horse is best overclocked i have tested..
dragon too
kevho00 said:
Hey I have a froyo 2.2 vibrant running Team Whisky's Bionix touchwiz custom rom. Is it possible to overclock my phone?
How do i even start this?! sorry im a total n00b
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Check the development forum. There is a thread in there for the dragon kernel. Check it out.
Trigger + Overstock = Awesomeness
Once i install the kernal, then what?!
kevho00 said:
Once i install the kernal, then what?!
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let it boot up...if it dont move from the first screen dont worry..its doing something
just get setCPU App And Install it...there you can overclock
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Once i install the kernal, then what?!
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Then you download either setcpu or CPU tuner from the Market to control the clock speed but that's it. You'll have to tinker with it to see what your phone can handle and what battery life is like. Read the thread for whatever kernel you install, most questions you have will be answered there.
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tell me when you do all that..
in setCPU Select auto detect speed...thats when u open the app for the first time..that option is the middle one
it will ask for root
allow it
when it enters...
select set on boot
try changing from conservative to performance or powersave
in the to thing [----------|--] yuh can now select the speed
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Not to sound like a n00b (too late) how do i install this dragon kernel lol
I might be off my rocker, but I have always been taught that you never select "set on boot" until you know what your phone can handle.
For instance, if he sets on boot and then hits performance 1.4ghz and his phone freezes, he could be ****ed because when he turns his phone back on its going to set it to performance 1.4ghz, which may cause him to freeze right off the bat again and infinitely thereafter.
Lemme know if my ****s all retarded.
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Not to sound like a n00b (too late) how do i install this dragon kernel lol
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Just like you flash a rom, just don't wipe anything. Make a nandroid first incase something goes wrong or you don't like the kernel.
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kevho00 said:
Not to sound like a n00b (too late) how do i install this dragon kernel lol
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flash it like a ROM or you can get the SGS kernel flasher from the market and use that.
MAKE A BACK UP!!
i would also recommend using the 'on demand' setting in SetCPU as it helps with battery, and can be tweaked using the adv. settings (but i wouldnt get into that just yet ... just set to ondemand for now)
i usually get into recovery mod and create a back up, then flash the kernel. If it flashes correctly make a new backup - i have not been able to restore from a backup that used a different kernel. If you use SGS kernel flasher, you can back up the original kernel if you find your phone doesnt like the OC one.
good luck, let us know how it goes.
So i reinstall packages? Can i do this via Clockwork recovery?
So i put it in the root of my internal sd and reinstall packages?
kevho00 said:
So i reinstall packages? Can i do this via Clockwork recovery?
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so download the kernel you want to use and get it to your SD card (i ALWAYS use the primary SD, not ext). Either mount your sd card to your pc and transfer or DL straight to the phone.
Once there, power off phone and use the three button method to get to CWM recovery.
From there choose install zip from sd
select choose zip
scroll through folders to sd
select the .zip that is the kernel you downloaded
select yes
once the line says install complete, select go back and reboot
let reboot - will take a few mins (will wipe dalvick cache)
once booted, your phone will now have the ability to be overclocked, and you must use a program such as SetCPU (what i use) or voltage control (will be installed with the kernel).
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Nah, just install to the root of your SD. Then choose install zip from SD. Then choose zip, then scroll to your kernel and select it. It will flash, should be pretty quick. Then you reboot system.
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Ok so i flashed it, and now i have no idea what to set the voltage control on? What do you guys recommend?
kevho00 said:
Not to sound like a n00b (too late) how do i install this dragon kernel lol
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there are 2 kinds of dragon kernel, 1 is OC, the other is regular or tweaked up. do it thru red cwm recovery
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Ok so i flashed it, and now i have no idea what to set the voltage control on? What do you guys recommend?
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cant really help you there, i use set CPU. End result is approx the same. Use it all the time to adjust battery usage ect. Can create power profiles ect - tons of reading available all over the net on how to use it.
you can probably just search this forum or google voltage control app and see what comes up. With it being overclocked right now its going to be a tweaking game to find out what settings increase performance but dont create a volatile or unstable os.
good luck!
Help guys. I rooted a buddys fascinate. Had a backup but I accidentally wiped that too.
We were comparing phones and I had him run Quadrant and using ROM Toolbox I had him slide his CPU all the way up. Phone reboots now about a minute after you boot into the phone. Not enough time as its still loading/media scanning to get to the app and turn sliders back down.
I thought ADB would work through CWM and I could pull the app but that didn't work.
I flashed the same kernel (KGB over a touchwiz ROM) on top of it hoping it would reset but no luck.
What are my options?
reflash the rom
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reflash the rom
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i have. it still reboots about a minute after booting - i assume because ROM Toolbox is still there trying to set CPU?
Edit: also, i'm a little surprised i wasn't able to ADB through recovery? It was on the same laptop i rooted it with so I'm sure the drivers are there. Wire is OK as I was browsing the SD card.
Edit #2: ok i'm losing my eyesight. last night i saw a link to a stock eh03 kernel I was going to try. I figure if the kernel doesn't support OC'ing, i could get in. uninstall the app and flash the KGB kernel back. can you point me to the stock kernel or at least one w/out OC'ing support?
(hes running TSM EH03 btw)
Edit #3: ok found the stock kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19865577&postcount=140
now i just need to get off work.
damn i feel like a dip****.
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i have. it still reboots about a minute after booting - i assume because ROM Toolbox is still there trying to set CPU?
Edit: also, i'm a little surprised i wasn't able to ADB through recovery? It was on the same laptop i rooted it with so I'm sure the drivers are there. Wire is OK as I was browsing the SD card.
Edit #2: ok i'm losing my eyesight. last night i saw a link to a stock eh03 kernel I was going to try. I figure if the kernel doesn't support OC'ing, i could get in. uninstall the app and flash the KGB kernel back. can you point me to the stock kernel or at least one w/out OC'ing support?
(hes running TSM EH03 btw)
Edit #3: ok found the stock kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19865577&postcount=140
now i just need to get off work.
damn i feel like a dip****.
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So you three fingerd into recovery, wiped data, reflashed TSM and still no dice? If so, then follow section 2 of my guide.
droidstyle said:
So you three fingerd into recovery, wiped data, reflashed TSM and still no dice? If so, then follow section 2 of my guide.
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Recovery, and just flashed TSM over whats there. BOots into phone but not enough time to get to ROM Toolbox to turn down sliders.
Trying to avoid losing his data/text messages/contacts.
Sputnikk23 said:
Recovery, and just flashed TSM over whats there. BOots into phone but not enough time to get to ROM Toolbox to turn down sliders.
Trying to avoid losing his data/text messages/contacts.
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your going to have to wipe data unfortunately...hopefully his contacts are synced with google and apps backed up with titanium backup. You could try pulling the sd card and putting in a pc to get contacts, pictures...etc, but the phone is going to need a data wipe.
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your going to have to wipe data unfortunately...hopefully his contacts are synced with google and apps backed up with titanium backup. You could try pulling the sd card and putting in a pc to get contacts, pictures...etc, but the phone is going to need a data wipe.
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where are contacts stored then?
and you don't think flashing a non-OC'able kernel will do the trick?
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where are contacts stored then?
and you don't think flashing a non-OC'able kernel will do the trick?
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Edit* Not sure where the contacts are stored, somebody can hopefully chime in there.
Also one thing you could try is going into the sd card via pc and deleting the rom tool box app in system/app folder. I have not tried this before...so it may or may not work! You can try flashing the stock kernel, but Im not sure if that will do anything either. Never really been in this situation since I keep all my stuff backed up.
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No because the kernel dont overwrite the app data...your OC app(rom tool box) still has the voltage script written in the initd folder and the stock eh03 kernel is capable of being OC'd...so nothing will change there.
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DAMN IT.
Voltages? I didn't change voltages. Just CPU Sliders. Think the nstools reset zip might work?
Also, I followed you guide to flash TSM, so I'm pretty sure its running CWM 2.5.1 (its all red). Shouldn't I be able to adb in through recovery and take out the init.d script/modify text values for the CPU/Pull the ROM Toolbox apk/etc?
Edit: YES YES YES.. sd card via PC.. but.. how do I get to the /system/app through SD card on PC while in recovery. All I get is the SD card contents?
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DAMN IT.
Voltages? I didn't change voltages. Just CPU Sliders. Think the nstools reset zip might work?
Also, I followed you guide to flash TSM, so I'm pretty sure its running CWM 2.5.1 (its all red). Shouldn't I be able to adb in through recovery and take out the init.d script/modify text values for the CPU/Pull the ROM Toolbox apk/etc?
Edit: YES YES YES.. sd card via PC.. but.. how do I get to the /system/app through SD card on PC while in recovery. All I get is the SD card contents?
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Im sorry I meant mhz not voltage lol...
scratch the sd card idea, you cant access the system from pc.
If you are familiar with adb, then yes I believe what you said above will work. One thing tho, stock kernels do not support init.d scripts. So if your on the stock kernel, the rom toolbox app must be applying the OC on boot. I think your best shot is to pull the RTB.apk via adb.
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Im sorry I meant mhz not voltage lol...
scratch the sd card idea, you cant access the system from pc.
If you are familiar with adb, then yes I believe what you said above will work. One thing tho, stock kernels do not support init.d scripts. So if your on the stock kernel, the rom toolbox app must be applying the OC on boot. I think your best shot is to pull the RTB.apk via adb.
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I haven't tried stock kernel yet. So if it doesn't support init.d, and thats how its being set - seems a valid theory that flashing it would get me back into being able to boot OK.
Whats RTB.apk?
And any ideas as to why I can't adb in when in recovery? Just a driver issue you think? I used the same laptop to root his phone so i figured drivers would be good, so I didn't explore that much last night. USB Mount worked OK obviously.
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I haven't tried stock kernel yet. So if it doesn't support init.d, and thats how its being set - seems a valid theory that flashing it would get me back into being able to boot OK.
Whats RTB.apk?
And any ideas as to why I can't adb in when in recovery? Just a driver issue you think? I used the same laptop to root his phone so i figured drivers would be good, so I didn't explore that much last night. USB Mount worked OK obviously.
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(ROM TOOL BOX. APK) lol
If rom tool box is setting the OC at boot and not using init.d script, then no flashing a stock kernel wont fix it.
The samsung driver you used wont work with adb, you need the nexus google driver. A simple Google search will pull it up.
Fyi, the next time you run into issues, a full detailed writeup on the devices setup and exact methods used to get there would help alot.
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(ROM TOOL BOX. APK) lol
The samsung driver you used wont work with adb, you need the nexus google driver. A simple Google search will pull it up.
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Hmmm.. Maybe I made a false presumption (being the owner of a Nexus S 4g, totally pimped the hell out btw) that I already had those drivers. Thank you man. You pointed me in the only possible right direction.
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459905 <-- according to that the stock kernel doesn't do OC?
Is it possible to root the Fascinate without deleting data, or at least a temporary root?
Chase716 said:
Is it possible to root the Fascinate without deleting data, or at least a temporary root?
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Absolutely. You'd have to search/dig through older posts, but the general idea is this:
> Get a recovery .zip file that will install Superuser and put it onto the SDCARD
> Flash a custom recovery (typically ClockworkMod) using ODIN
> Reboot into recovery and install the .zip file
Basically for the Fascinate, all you really need to do is get the proper version of the Superuser application and it's corresponding su binary installed. The Samsung ODIN tool allows you to replace the stock recovery with a custom one, and that custom recovery will allow you to install Superuser/root the device. This only modifies the SYSTEM volume and does not affect any of your data at all. It's obviously more complicated, but essentially behaves as if you could just root by installing something from the Google Play Store.
There should be a TON of resources/threads out here and on other sites with how to actually accomplish this and provide the necessary files for the Fascinate, but as long as you pick a process that generally has the steps listed above, your data *should* be 100% safe.
... so get Googling and root that thing! lol :victory:
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Absolutely. You'd have to search/dig through older posts, but the general idea is this:
> Get a recovery .zip file that will install Superuser and put it onto the SDCARD
> Flash a custom recovery (typically ClockworkMod) using ODIN
> Reboot into recovery and install the .zip file
Basically for the Fascinate, all you really need to do is get the proper version of the Superuser application and it's corresponding su binary installed. The Samsung ODIN tool allows you to replace the stock recovery with a custom one, and that custom recovery will allow you to install Superuser/root the device. This only modifies the SYSTEM volume and does not affect any of your data at all. It's obviously more complicated, but essentially behaves as if you could just root by installing something from the Google Play Store.
There should be a TON of resources/threads out here and on other sites with how to actually accomplish this and provide the necessary files for the Fascinate, but as long as you pick a process that generally has the steps listed above, your data *should* be 100% safe.
... so get Googling and root that thing! lol :victory:
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Well the only thing is, that I'm not supposed to root it, and I only want a temporary root to remove bloatware. Superoneclick's shell root didn't work, and neither did z4root.
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Well the only thing is, that I'm not supposed to root it, and I only want a temporary root to remove bloatware. Superoneclick's shell root didn't work, and neither did z4root.
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Well if you get more interested I suggest you try a 4.2.2 ROM you won't be disappointed
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bbrad said:
Well if you get more interested I suggest you try a 4.2.2 ROM you won't be disappointed
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Well that does sound really nice, especially since i enjoyed CyanogenMod on my Incredible 2, but I can not flash any ROMs, I cannot completely root, and I cannot even flash a new recovery. And if I did flash a ROM, I think it would have to be manually activated since it does not have a SIM Card, leading him to find out I rooted. I just want a temp root to remove the bloatware I do not use.
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Well that does sound really nice, especially since i enjoyed CyanogenMod on my Incredible 2, but I can not flash any ROMs, I cannot completely root, and I cannot even flash a new recovery. And if I did flash a ROM, I think it would have to be manually activated since it does not have a SIM Card, leading him to find out I rooted. I just want a temp root to remove the bloatware I do not use.
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I don't think there are any temp-root solutions out there for the Gingerbread Fascinate, as the community was well beyond using exploits by that time Could be wrong, but I looked around and didn't really find anything. It might be worth looking around for a generic Linux 2.6.35-based exploit that somebody has compiled for the ARM processor.
Question ... what would prevent you from temporarily flashing a custom recovery to make the edits you want? If you don't change anything else, it would be overwritten with the stock recovery on the next boot, thus covering your tracks (and we can get the stock recovery back on there for ya if for some reason it doesn't). Many (most?) recoveries will allow ADB access when active, so you can mount system and do what you need to do without actually rooting the stock ROM.
Also, don't worry too much about the CDMA activation status, unless you check a certain box in the Samsung ODIN tool there is almost no way to screw that information up doing what you're looking to do. The CDMA keys are stored in a super double secret location that you ordinarily can't get to. The option is called "EFS Clear", don't go anywhere near it.
If you do find a solution that fits your needs, I also recommend you have a plan to restore the SYSTEM volume back to stock in case you make a mistake, like deleting a critical file. We can help with that as well if you are ultimately willing to use the ODIN tool. I just want to make sure you're prepared for that possibility as it sounds like if you temporarily break this device you'll be in big trouble
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If you do find a solution that fits your needs, I also recommend you have a plan to restore the SYSTEM volume back to stock in case you make a mistake, like deleting a critical file. We can help with that as well if you are ultimately willing to use the ODIN tool. I just want to make sure you're prepared for that possibility as it sounds like if you temporarily break this device you'll be in big trouble
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Yeah, but two more things: first, can someone give me a very detailed tutorial on ODIN for my device, and could someone also give me the files i may need in order to delete the bloatware, no flashing, no data wipes or anything like that? Because the bloatware is what I think slows my phone down. And what if something does not go right?
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You should be able to unroot via SuperOneClick after you've fully rooted and debloated the thing. Whoever's keeping an eye on that Fassy hopefully won't notice!
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Yeah, but two more things: first, can someone give me a very detailed tutorial on ODIN for my device, and could someone also give me the files i may need in order to delete the bloatware, no flashing, no data wipes or anything like that? Because the bloatware is what I think slows my phone down. And what if something does not go right?
Sent from my Galaxy S Fascinate SCH-I500
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Does the person you're hiding this from even know the difference between what GB and JB looks like? What's to say if you have an AOSP or CM-based JB rom that they'd even know it's not stock?
Anyway, if you buy Nova Launcher prime I know you can hide apps from your drawer, so if you wanted to say hide TiBu or Superuser you could do that and throw someone off if they're just taking a quick look at your app drawer. Nova doesn't work on GB though I think, so you might have to look for a different launcher to do that if you want to stay on stock.
For a detailed guide on pretty much anything related to rooting/flashing just check droidstyle's guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
For freezing or removing bloat I highly recommend buying Titanium Backup, but there are some free apps that will do that sorta stuff. Titanium will give you way more options down the road though...
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Anyway, if you buy Nova Launcher prime I know you can hide apps from your drawer, so if you wanted to say hide TiBu or Superuser you could do that and throw someone off if they're just taking a quick look at your app drawer. Nova doesn't work on GB though I think, so you might have to look for a different launcher to do that if you want to stay on stock.
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I believe he does, since when I rooted my Incredible 2 he noticed it was completely different and not HTC Sense skinned, and I'd explained to him the Android operating system. And I use ADW EX as my default launcher, only because I can't use the TwLauncher due to lag issues. So I've hidden my bloat apps, but things still stay open in the background.
This might be a long shot, but have you ever tried to explain to him that rooting is actually more secure than having an unrooted phone? Try to get him to understand that with a rooted device you can actually make FULL backups of your device in case anything goes wrong, unlike the half-assed backups that non-rooted devices have to use. Also, rooted devices allow you to install the latest (secure) versions of android unlike non-rooted which force you to wait for updates that may never come.
Anyway, if that fails, I would recommend to root and freeze/remove with Titanium
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This might be a long shot, but have you ever tried to explain to him that rooting is actually more secure than having an unrooted phone? Try to get him to understand that with a rooted device you can actually make FULL backups of your device in case anything goes wrong, unlike the half-assed backups that non-rooted devices have to use. Also, rooted devices allow you to install the latest (secure) versions of android unlike non-rooted which force you to wait for updates that may never come.
Anyway, if that fails, I would recommend to root and freeze/remove with Titanium
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I wish. He won't listen, and he'll just say that it's bad, I don't need to root my phone,and that I'll break it, like my old one ( NOT MY FAULT!). That is why I wanted to do it secretly, temporarily, or something like that. I know it's good, and that there are risks. So is there any way I can root (no flashing) and keep it hidden? Also, I went into the bootloader, and saw an option that said update.zip. Would that be useful, to maybe flash the EH09 Fascinate rom?
UPDATE: Thanks for the help everyone, but I'm most likely going to ditch the Fascinate for a Galaxy SIII. So maybe sometime I'll find the time to experiment with ROMS on my Fascinate sometime.