I wanted to share my experience here in the general forum so others don't waste time, effort or money troubleshooting or buying an incompatible battery. Do to the I777 version of the SGS II using an NFC compliant battery, there is something unique within the battery and the way the phone is charged. In the past ALL SGS I batteries were interchangeable with the exception of the SCH-I500 Fascinate and it's variants having a different battery.
What does this mean?
It means that the SGS II I9100 Battery is NOT compatible with the SGS II I777. The NFC style battery is REQUIRED in the SGS II I777. If you use a base I9100 battery it will operate fine under any stand alone condition but whenever a USB cable is inserted, the phone will immediately go into chronic rebooting every 3 seconds and leave you wondering what is going on for the most part. The only mode this reboot doesn't affect is Download Mode.
What should I look for when buying a replacement?
Make sure the battery you buy is I777 compatible. Don't buy a plain SGS II I9100 battery and assume it will work. Until manufacturers begin to produce units that are compliant with both (backwards compatibility shouldn't be an issue). This should not apply to docks, chargers and cables and most likely is only battery specific.
I just wanted to share my experiences so you don't waste time and/or money buying an incompatible battery or troubleshooting an issue which can appear as software in the form of hard rebooting.
Below is a sample of the difference of the batteries in both model number, and front facing view of the NFC text found on the I777. The I9100 unit is on the right, and the I777 unit is on the left. Excuse the quality I found a random photo to use rather than take one...
Have more details on why the NFC unit is different? Post them up and I'll add them to the OP to help educate.
Did this post help you out? Click THANKS (below and to the right)...
Good find man.
Pics of the contacts, please
The contacts are the same. it is the internals of the batteries that are different.
Good post. Is it ok if I click the Thanks on the right instead of searching for the one on the left...?
Kadin said:
Good post. Is it ok if I click the Thanks on the right instead of searching for the one on the left...?
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Haha edited that one. +1 to the internals being the difference...
great find and great info! thanks for posting this.
i'm taking bets on how many threads will get created asking about why their phone is rebooting when they plug it in?
So if you buy an I900 compatible battery that charges via battery dock connector and never utilize a cord/usb to tether phone would you be OK?
Only reason I ask.....I have this on it's way from Amazon and have heard it works fine from my friend that utilizes the battery on his Samsung GS2.
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-x1900mA...=UTF8&coliid=IIQN5YJKPRZN8&colid=LM1H9GCPJU23
I am using a I9100 battery in my att gs2 with no problems
From my use they work just fine from a stand alone point. I do however have no long term results of what using a non NFC battery will do to it but to be honest during a dis-charge state, it shouldn't matter what battery is in there so long as the voltage is the same which in that case it is.
Stupid question: What about in reverse?
I have a non-NFC UK SGS II...could I use an I777 battery safely inside it?
Additionally, would it be possible with the rightsoftware to utilize that NFC?
(basically got lied to on ebay, been perpetually bummed about lack of NFC)
takakoshimizu said:
Stupid question: What about in reverse?
I have a non-NFC UK SGS II...could I use an I777 battery safely inside it?
Additionally, would it be possible with the rightsoftware to utilize that NFC?
(basically got lied to on ebay, been perpetually bummed about lack of NFC)
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No, the battery only has the antenna I'm fairly certain. The NFC controller itself is in the phone I'm fairly certain.
will an i777 battery work okay in an i9100 international sgs2?
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will an i777 battery work okay in an i9100 international sgs2?
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I'm using an i777 battery in my i9100 while typing this... needless to say it works fine. The only physical difference I can tell is the i777 battery is a hair thicker if you lay them side by side on a flat surface and get level with yotur eyes... the voltage and everything else is identical... definitely not sweating it. IV been using it for 3 days now. As for long term, still should be fine. But its on you if not... I'm no battery "expert" but I do understand basic AC/DC.
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My HTC Amaze will not hold a charge. I am using the stock included USB Wall plug and the Micro EXT 12 Pin Cable which only comes with the AMaze (it is also included with the Flyer Tablet). When I first plug in the phone to charge the charge light blinks orange for five minutes and then remains solid. When I return hours later the light is totally out (no green indicator light showing a full charge which I used to get). When I try to turn on the phone the Screen flashes for a split second but nothing happens.
I tried to troubleshoot by swapping in my HTC Sensation battery and that does power up the AMAZE. I have now switched the included Amaze charger with the one that came with the HTC Sensation. The orange power light comes on immediately although it only blinked with the other charger. I am worried that maybe the Power adapter is frying my batteries.
Does anyone know if these included chargers share the same specifications for the Sensation, Amaze etc??? Anyone else experience this problem??
The only thing I can think of is your version of Recovery. I know that the phone will not charge while it is turned off if you have not flashed the most recent version that includes the fix for this problem. Try turning the phone on and then plugging it in to the charger.
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The only thing I can think of is your version of Recovery. I know that the phone will not charge while it is turned off if you have not flashed the most recent version that includes the fix for this problem. Try turning the phone on and then plugging it in to the charger.
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Is there a fix for this problem? Does the version of recovery affect the phones ability to charge when its turned off?
either recovery or faulty battery! what happens when you put amaze battery in to sensation?
HTC Amaze Battery
When I put the HTC amaze battery into the Sensation and try to charge it the light blinks. Then after 5 minutes goes solid orange. After hours the light shuts off and I unplug it and try to power up but NOTHING. Dead. I purchased two Anker batteries, tried to charge them in Sensation. One works fine but cannot be charged in the HTC Amaze. I have even tried it with both the White Amaze USB cable and both the HTC Amaze included charger and the Sensation included charger. ( I believe they are the same model). Could it be the USB connection is somehow not allowing the phone to charge?
Doesnt HTC warranty the battery for any period of time???
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Is there a fix for this problem? Does the version of recovery affect the phones ability to charge when its turned off?
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Yes, there is a fix if that is indeed the issue. Are you able to determine what version of recovery you are using? It could still be a faulty battery though.
Upgrading my phone from a SGS 4g
I heard that the Battery is a big issue on this phone.... can someone tell me if they fixed it with updates or is it still a problem because i really love the camera on this one and im really loving the design but there were other statements abt poor reception in some areas which leaves me in doubt.... Bottom line should i go for Galaxy s 2 over this???
chamalgsg4g said:
I heard that the Battery is a big issue on this phone.... can someone tell me if they fixed it with updates or is it still a problem because i really love the camera on this one and im really loving the design but there were other statements abt poor reception in some areas which leaves me in doubt.... Bottom line should i go for Galaxy s 2 over this???
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After rooting and using custom roms I don't think there is any battery issues. IMO Battery life is great. Phone is still one if not the best and can be in the top best phones for a while, only thing right now is development. If your all about development then go with s2 if not then amaze. I'm happy with what I have
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Tell me something, what is it that really drains the battery on the Amaze? Is it the 4G? Thing is, my device would be on WiFi for the majority of the day. I've seen some apps where you can auto switch network based on proximity. So I'd only be using 3G/4G while I'm in transit.
Also, is there a way to disable 3G/4G so as to only get EDGE?
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Tell me something, what is it that really drains the battery on the Amaze? Is it the 4G? Thing is, my device would be on WiFi for the majority of the day. I've seen some apps where you can auto switch network based on proximity. So I'd only be using 3G/4G while I'm in transit.
Also, is there a way to disable 3G/4G so as to only get EDGE?
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When I walk in my house, my WiFi comes on and 4g turns off... No special app... I think its a feature of the ROM I use. Sometimes it doesn't kick in until I open my WiFi networks though. If you have WiFi on though when you aren't connected to a network, the constant scanning will drain your battery.
Also, other things that drain the battery:
Sense Widgets... Although attractive, huge battery Hog
Live Wallpapers - Duh
Overclocked Kernels... Faster performance = Faster drain
Heavy usage... When the screen is always on and the data network is constantly being used, it also drops.
On the new Energy ROM, its nice because when your phone is not being used, neither is your battery. My phone went 3 hours with only changing 1%.
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Did somebody make a statistic - which SOFTWARE drain battery more quick on Amaze?
Are there any apps that select Wifi based on your GPS location? I'm just trying to figure out how I can get this phone and actually be able to use it without having to pull an arm and a leg.
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hey guys, i've had an amaze for about a month now, and these last 2 weeks that i've had it, the phone will randomly shut off once a day when im at or around 50%. I'm not sure if this is a battery or a hardware issue. I have used a non-stock charger and cord to charge it 2 times a week so i'm not sure if this might have anything to do with it. I have the official unofficial ICS update, did a full wipe, relocked the bootloader and unlocked it again and basically put a clean ICS on it. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Arcandel said:
Did somebody make a statistic - which SOFTWARE drain battery more quick on Amaze?
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You mean, like the battery use graph that Android provides?
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Are there any apps that select Wifi based on your GPS location? I'm just trying to figure out how I can get this phone and actually be able to use it without having to pull an arm and a leg.
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Llama. It doesn't even use GPS, it uses cell towers to determine location, which your phone's doing already.
a.benjamin76 said:
hey guys, i've had an amaze for about a month now, and these last 2 weeks that i've had it, the phone will randomly shut off once a day when im at or around 50%. I'm not sure if this is a battery or a hardware issue. I have used a non-stock charger and cord to charge it 2 times a week so i'm not sure if this might have anything to do with it. I have the official unofficial ICS update, did a full wipe, relocked the bootloader and unlocked it again and basically put a clean ICS on it. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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I've seen reports like this that were resolved by a new battery. Could be the handset, though.
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Are there any apps that select Wifi based on your GPS location? I'm just trying to figure out how I can get this phone and actually be able to use it without having to pull an arm and a leg.
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Proximity WiFi is a very light weight app for this.
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HTC Amaze is 12 Pin Charging - Beware !!!!!
schlockmaster said:
My HTC Amaze will not hold a charge. I am using the stock included USB Wall plug and the Micro EXT 12 Pin Cable which only comes with the AMaze (it is also included with the Flyer Tablet). When I first plug in the phone to charge the charge light blinks orange for five minutes and then remains solid. When I return hours later the light is totally out (no green indicator light showing a full charge which I used to get). When I try to turn on the phone the Screen flashes for a split second but nothing happens.
I tried to troubleshoot by swapping in my HTC Sensation battery and that does power up the AMAZE. I have now switched the included Amaze charger with the one that came with the HTC Sensation. The orange power light comes on immediately although it only blinked with the other charger. I am worried that maybe the Power adapter is frying my batteries.
Does anyone know if these included chargers share the same specifications for the Sensation, Amaze etc??? Anyone else experience this problem??
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This link shows the new 12 pin technology that MUST be used with the Amaze. This is a real pain, just purchased two HTC-Amaze phones and taking them back for the Galaxy.
I hate it when they change technology and make all your charging cords in your phones and your computers obsolete and don't tell you. Also, the Amaze is designed for European drivers. The charging cord plugs into the left-upper middle of the phone and it is dangerous to pick up to unplug wile driving because the cord hits the steering wheel. How do you spell DANGER? Really heavy and clunky phone too. Galaxy has bigger screen and is lighter - another reason to pass on the Amaze. Be careful with this phone if you aren't aware it is in a tech world of it's own. Just replacing the charging cords in our autos and computers cost more than the phone. Sheesh!
Here is the link to help you from T-Mobile support.
//support dot t-mobile dot com/docs/DOC-3062 Turn the dot to a period in each case in your browser and you should be able to go to the T-Mobile page.
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This link shows the new 12 pin technology that MUST be used with the Amaze. This is a real pain, just purchased two HTC-Amaze phones and taking them back for the Galaxy.
I hate it when they change technology and make all your charging cords in your phones and your computers obsolete and don't tell you. Also, the Amaze is designed for European drivers. The charging cord plugs into the left-upper middle of the phone and it is dangerous to pick up to unplug wile driving because the cord hits the steering wheel. How do you spell DANGER? Really heavy and clunky phone too. Galaxy has bigger screen and is lighter - another reason to pass on the Amaze. Be careful with this phone if you aren't aware it is in a tech world of it's own. Just replacing the charging cords in our autos and computers cost more than the phone. Sheesh!
Here is the link to help you from T-Mobile support.
//support dot t-mobile dot com/docs/DOC-3062 Turn the dot to a period in each case in your browser and you should be able to go to the T-Mobile page.
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I use a standard micro USB to charge my Amaze. Works fine.
I think you may mean "designed for English drivers", since they are the only European country that drives on the left side of the street and thus have the driver on the right side. But in any case one is not supposed to be messing around with the power while driving anyway.
DesertCactus said:
This link shows the new 12 pin technology that MUST be used with the Amaze. This is a real pain, just purchased two HTC-Amaze phones and taking them back for the Galaxy.
I hate it when they change technology and make all your charging cords in your phones and your computers obsolete and don't tell you. Also, the Amaze is designed for European drivers. The charging cord plugs into the left-upper middle of the phone and it is dangerous to pick up to unplug wile driving because the cord hits the steering wheel. How do you spell DANGER? Really heavy and clunky phone too. Galaxy has bigger screen and is lighter - another reason to pass on the Amaze. Be careful with this phone if you aren't aware it is in a tech world of it's own. Just replacing the charging cords in our autos and computers cost more than the phone. Sheesh!
Here is the link to help you from T-Mobile support.
//support dot t-mobile dot com/docs/DOC-3062 Turn the dot to a period in each case in your browser and you should be able to go to the T-Mobile page.
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As mentioned, conventional microUSB cords work fine, and some of HTC's own documentation says so, some even recommend it. I do find I get a better/faster charge using HTC's cables,but they are functionally the same as microUSB. The odd connector is more secure, though -- it's longer and inserts further in the socket.
You should not be picking up or juggling your phone while driving. Period. End quote. Just don't.
I am also disappointed to the Nth degree with the Amaze, actually not so much the phone which is lovely and solid and attractive and loaded with hardware features, I'm furious with HTC's absolutely stupid mess with drivers, and refusal to quickly resolve issues with the software. It's October, 10 months after purchase, and I have problems with WiFi, Android Beam, Bluetooth, surprise shutdowns (just finding the phone has turned off by itself). In short, it's failed to function as a reliable phone.
I'll never buy from them again. Never. Ever. Google Nexus phones for me from now on, and not on a carrier contract either. I've been burned for the last time.
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ChromeJob said:
As mentioned, conventional microUSB cords work fine, and some of HTC's own documentation says so, some even recommend it. I do find I get a better/faster charge using HTC's cables,but they are functionally the same as microUSB. The odd connector is more secure, though -- it's longer and inserts further in the socket.
You should not be picking up or juggling your phone while driving. Period. End quote. Just don't.
I am also disappointed to the Nth degree with the Amaze, actually not so much the phone which is lovely and solid and attractive and loaded with hardware features, I'm furious with HTC's absolutely stupid mess with drivers, and refusal to quickly resolve issues with the software. It's October, 10 months after purchase, and I have problems with WiFi, Android Beam, Bluetooth, surprise shutdowns (just finding the phone has turned off by itself). In short, it's failed to function as a reliable phone.
I'll never buy from them again. Never. Ever. Google Nexus phones for me from now on, and not on a carrier contract either. I've been burned for the last time.
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From what I've read, the shutdowns may be caused by the battery. You might want to try replacing the battery you are using. So far I have not found one better than the OEM.
I just got this battery from ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260899780576?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
NFC doesn't work. I found a picture of the Korean S2 and it seems the better contacts on the Korean model is on the opposite side as the i777. So it seem the NFC side of the battery is facing inward instead of outward when used with the i777 and I'm guessing that is why it doesn't work.
Anyone with a Korean 2000mah battery that can confirm that NFC does not work?
Very disappointing as the battery was not cheap.
I can't be the only one that bought the Korean battery for NFC and extended life.
Just need need to know if I'm correct and NFC doesn't work.
Anyone?
If you can I would try and get your money back. It sounds like it could be a knock off, as the only extended NFC battery that actually worked had the contacts as normal. Also what have you tried to do, read a tag, beam?
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Thanks for the reply...
I have tried both reading tags ans beaming to my other phone. It all works with. My original battery but not the new one.
Seeing pictures of the Korean S II I noticed the contacts are on the other side thus the batter would have to be flipped to be inserted. This is why I think the NFC side faces the wrong way when incerted in the i777. Both batteries have the small rise on one side where the NFC circuits (not sure what to call them), but when you insert the new "Korean" battery that side faces in instead of out as the battery has to be flipped.
Do you have a Korean battery?
How's your phone now
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How's your phone now
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I've gone back to the stock battery for the NFC functionality. I guess I'm going to look for and buy another stock battery, if I want NFC.
I asked the seller about it and he said:
Hello. Sorry for the inconvenience.
No problem, This is a Original extended back cover and 2000mAh battery.
The EB-K1A2EBSG is the Korean version of the Export Privé, and was supposed to be compatible with all Galaxy S 2 versions.
However, in each country, depending on the carrier that does not support NFC.
Samsung Electronics has confirmed this part.
Please contact the carrier on your smartphone.
For example, AT & T, AT & T, T-Mobile, Sprint and so.
Once again, Sorry for the inconvenience.
Thanks.
When I replied that my stock battery worked fine with NFC and I don't understand how contacting my carrier (AT&T) would help. THen he replied:
Hello. Thank you for response.
Because each country, depending on the version of the NFC-compatible problem occurs.
We do not sell International Version and can not solve this part.
We did guide in the product description. Please refer.
Thanks.
So he's pretty useless.
I have read that others have bought the Korean battery, but never mention NFC functionality. So as far as I can tell if you want NFC stick to the stock battery.
RojasTKD said:
I just got this battery from ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260899780576?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
NFC doesn't work. I found a picture of the Korean S2 and it seems the better contacts on the Korean model is on the opposite side as the i777. So it seem the NFC side of the battery is facing inward instead of outward when used with the i777 and I'm guessing that is why it doesn't work.
Anyone with a Korean 2000mah battery that can confirm that NFC does not work?
Very disappointing as the battery was not cheap.
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the nfc wire of the Korean battery is said to be on the other side, opposite to that of the att version. Thus nfc cannot work with a korean battery inside.
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the nfc wire of the Korean battery is said to be on the other side, opposite to that of the att version. Thus nfc cannot work with a korean battery inside.
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Yes, seems so. Unfortunately, it was posted many times that you needed the Korean batttery if you wanted NFC. There where even several people that had ordered the Korean battery and talk of having to modify the back cover, but no one cought on to the NFC being on the other side of the batttery. At least I saw no mention until I posted it.
I'm back to using the standard battery.
RojasTKD said:
Yes, seems so. Unfortunately, it was posted many times that you needed the Korean batttery if you wanted NFC. There where even several people that had ordered the Korean battery and talk of having to modify the back cover, but no one cought on to the NFC being on the other side of the batttery. At least I saw no mention until I posted it.
I'm back to using the standard battery.
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I have just caught on to this thread because I just picked up some NFC tags to play around with (until now, have had no other devices/cards with NFC). I also have the Korean NFC battery, and it's not working. I'll test the stock 1650mah battery in a few days when I return home from a trip. It sucks that NFC won't work--this phone with the 2000mah battery is pretty great.
EDIT: stock 1650mah battery works with my tags. So Korean extended battery definitely does NOT do NFC.
Can you remove the front thin layer of the battery and flip the nfc wire to the back? Since its inverted can the nfc work through the front of the phone?
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Dimatchka said:
Can you remove the front thin layer of the battery and flip the nfc wire to the back? Since its inverted can the nfc work through the front of the phone?
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Thought about doing that. It's an interesting idea. And no, NFC doesn't work from the front.
Guys, what is the best battery that won't need to change the cover?
Is there any 1900 or something like that?
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I saw only Mugen Power 1800mah for standart back cover. Iam looking for some 2k battery just like for i9100, but nothing
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So the official 2000mah battery works. Any that have NFC?
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can anyone help me out finding this kit for my gfs att s2?
the ebay listing doesnt work, and the seller doesnt have any items in his store.
Thanx
Please... someone help me as I have bought this phone without a warranty and likewise have no insurance.. and I JUST bought the phone maybe a month ago!!!!/B]
My phone won't keep a charge, it charges only to a certain point while on the charger (that is any charger, inc. the one that came with the phone), but will die within about 15-20 mins after taking it off of the charger, and if I use it while on the charger it will drain the battery the same way as if it was off of the charger, and die within 10-15 mins! Likewise, it started doing this funky vibrating stuff just an hour ago and will not boot up while on the charger at all anymore! I did a little research and found different opinions.. the most relevant being a need to replace the charger port and the other to change the battery. This is crazy as my phone as well as the accompanying accessories such as the battery and the charger were bought brand spanking new and SHOULD NOT be going crazy like this!
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One p.o'd Miss
I take it the phone is 100% stock; not rooted or no custom ROM? And you say that it is new and you did nothing to cause this? You didn't get it wet?
Try a factory restore. If that doesn't help then I would try a new battery.
Sounds like a failed battery to me.
A trip to your phone carrier store would be easy enough. I think they would at least try another battery for quick diagnosis.
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I take it the phone is 100% stock; not rooted or no custom ROM? And you say that it is new and you did nothing to cause this? You didn't get it wet?
Try a factory restore. If that doesn't help then I would try a new battery.
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No, I did no cause the issue nor did I get my phone wet. It simply started doing what I described in my initial post.. I noticed it when I plugged my phone in and it has been an ongoing situation for about 4-5 days now.
Thank you for the response and suggestion
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Sounds like a failed battery to me.
A trip to your phone carrier store would be easy enough. I think they would at least try another battery for quick diagnosis.
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Thank you very much for the quick response. I figured that the battery was the issue. I had a Samsung Galaxy 3 prior to purchasing the Note and it had the exact same issue,.. well not the same exact symptoms, but the need for a new battery due to not taking a charge, and I hadn't had that particular phone more than 6 months! Perhaps it is a Samsung manufacturing issue with faulty batteries, similar to car manufacturers who have massive recalls on their vehicles due to faulty engine or other car parts. My physician told me that I needed to switch to an IPhone, lol... better quality I assume. Perhaps he is right.. ???
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MommaHoney said:
No, I did no cause the issue nor did I get my phone wet. It simply started doing what I described in my initial post.. I noticed it when I plugged my phone in and it has been an ongoing situation for about 4-5 days now.
Thank you for the response and suggestion
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Oh.. I forgot, yes the phone is 100% stock as you assumed. Terrible that it is doing what it is doing! Guess I need to get that battery then... ho hum.. more moola out of my darn pockets!
Your carrier (AT&T, T-Mobil, etc) store would at least put in a known good battery to see if that is all it is. And if so, then a new the cost of a new battery is next.
And as far as the iPhone......been down that road, and I could never go back to the iPhone. It was good for it's purpose and reliable. But NO more reliable than any Android phone I've owned. (3 of them).
And should the battery die in the iPhone, you will need to take it or send it back to an iPhone repair center. You don't just pull the back of it off, and replace the battery. At least in my 2 - iPhone 3G versions anyway.
And then there is rooting...cant hack an iPhone. You can jail break them, but that is not the same thing, and you still have no control over the OS.
JMO on the apple stuff.. Good, but VERY limited.
Keep your Note, it's better IMO, and has a huge screen.
Hello!! I have a I777 and my battery is almost dead and since I can't find a I777's battery on my country I was wondering if anyone can recommend me a rom (or Kernel) in which I can use and charge a 9100 baterry on my I777 without having the loop issue.
Thanks!!!
zorak20 said:
Hello!! I have a I777 and my battery is almost dead and since I can't find a I777's battery on my country I was wondering if anyone can recommend me a rom (or Kernel) in which I can use and charge a 9100 baterry on my I777 without having the loop issue.
Thanks!!!
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No rom/kernel package will be able to get around this hardware issue. You'll either have to make do with what you have or simply buy an i777 battery. They're really cheap ($5 or so), check in the Accessories forum for more info.
The $5 batteries are all fake, and are exactly the same as i9100 fake batteries. They don't have NFC.
i9100 battery is a fit and if you have a normal one - it should work without bootloops.
My phone has lived with i9100 battery for a couple of months.
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The $5 batteries are all fake, and are exactly the same as i9100 fake batteries. They don't have NFC.
i9100 battery is a fit and if you have a normal one - it should work without bootloops.
My phone has lived with i9100 battery for a couple of months.
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You are right, the cheap battery are all fakes and don't work but anyway, the problem is that I'm from Argentina and because of new government rules related to importations, I cannot buy a i777 from outside and in my country is imposible to find them.
What do you mean by a normal one? I tried an original i9100 on my i777 and I got the loops .
The reason of this post is because long time ago I read, don't remember where, that with some roms the i9100 battery worked ok so I though that maybe something could be shut off o done in the roms/kernels to disable the NFC. I google a lot but I couldn't find anything and unfortunately I don't have much time to go around testing every single rom. :crying:
Sooo any help would be much appreciated.
Just in case, I'm using SHOstock3 rom, I cannot ask in his thread due to my "new" status but If anyone can ask him, maybe he can find a way to change something in the room to avoid the loops.
thanks!!!!
The cheap batteries are not all fake, I'm using one as well as others. It's true NFC capabilities are lost, but who cares: NFC barely worked for this device in the first place.
SteveMurphy said:
The cheap batteries are not all fake, I'm using one as well as others. It's true NFC capabilities are lost, but who cares: NFC barely worked for this device in the first place.
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Define "fake".
For me, "fake" is when it says "SAMSUNG" on the battery, while it's not produced by Samsung, when it says "NFC" on the battery, but there's no NFC chip inside it, and when it states battery capacity, and the battery capacity isn't even 1/2 of the stated.
By all these criteria, the cheap batteries are fake. They don't have NFC chip, they're not produced by Samsung, they're not even the same batteries - you can read on Skyrocket forums, I've dismantled a true Samsung battery vs fake one and compared, it's easy to spot the fake by touch - the real battery fills all the possible space it has, the fake battery has a plastic holder around a smaller battery that's made to look and fit larger space. Of course, physically smaller battery also means - crappy capacity, nowhere near the "official" claim.
If you prefer other terms, like "counterfeit" - I don't mind the term as long as it stresses the right thing: these batteries aren't built by Samsung, aren't built by anyone that builds for Samsung, aren't of any "official" descent and are crappy (which makes their "SAMSUNG" sticker fake, by the way), so anyone who expects them to match the original battery is heading for a big disappointment. And I used 2 of those too, until I got annoyed enough that my wife's phone can't live till the end of the day, found and bought $30 original Samsung battery. Night and day difference. And the original battery is still alive till today.
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zorak20 said:
You are right, the cheap battery are all fakes and don't work but anyway, the problem is that I'm from Argentina and because of new government rules related to importations, I cannot buy a i777 from outside and in my country is imposible to find them.
What do you mean by a normal one? I tried an original i9100 on my i777 and I got the loops .
The reason of this post is because long time ago I read, don't remember where, that with some roms the i9100 battery worked ok so I though that maybe something could be shut off o done in the roms/kernels to disable the NFC. I google a lot but I couldn't find anything and unfortunately I don't have much time to go around testing every single rom. :crying:
Sooo any help would be much appreciated.
Just in case, I'm using SHOstock3 rom, I cannot ask in his thread due to my "new" status but If anyone can ask him, maybe he can find a way to change something in the room to avoid the loops.
thanks!!!!
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I'm not sure of the reason for bootloops, but I'm quite sure it isn't NFC - because the fake cheap batteries don't have NFC either. The additional contact on the battery board is connected to nothing.
I always ran stock-derived ROMs on the phone (SHOStock mostly, but at some point - some other ROM I've ported from i9100), never had a problem running i9100 battery, both true and fake one.
If you can look at the logcat and pinpoint the failure that sends you into a bootloop - it might help.
SteveMurphy said:
The cheap batteries are not all fake, I'm using one as well as others. It's true NFC capabilities are lost, but who cares: NFC barely worked for this device in the first place.
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The problems is that without NFC on the battery you cannot charge it...don't you have this problem?
Are you using a i777 or a i9100 battery? Which rom are you using?
Thanks!
Jack_R1 said:
Define "fake".
For me, "fake" is when it says "SAMSUNG" on the battery, while it's not produced by Samsung, when it says "NFC" on the battery, but there's no NFC chip inside it, and when it states battery capacity, and the battery capacity isn't even 1/2 of the stated.
By all these criteria, the cheap batteries are fake. They don't have NFC chip, they're not produced by Samsung, they're not even the same batteries - you can read on Skyrocket forums, I've dismantled a true Samsung battery vs fake one and compared, it's easy to spot the fake by touch - the real battery fills all the possible space it has, the fake battery has a plastic holder around a smaller battery that's made to look and fit larger space. Of course, physically smaller battery also means - crappy capacity, nowhere near the "official" claim.
If you prefer other terms, like "counterfeit" - I don't mind the term as long as it stresses the right thing: these batteries aren't built by Samsung, aren't built by anyone that builds for Samsung, aren't of any "official" descent and are crappy (which makes their "SAMSUNG" sticker fake, by the way), so anyone who expects them to match the original battery is heading for a big disappointment. And I used 2 of those too, until I got annoyed enough that my wife's phone can't live till the end of the day, found and bought $30 original Samsung battery. Night and day difference. And the original battery is still alive till today.
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I'm not sure of the reason for bootloops, but I'm quite sure it isn't NFC - because the fake cheap batteries don't have NFC either. The additional contact on the battery board is connected to nothing.
I always ran stock-derived ROMs on the phone (SHOStock mostly, but at some point - some other ROM I've ported from i9100), never had a problem running i9100 battery, both true and fake one.
If you can look at the logcat and pinpoint the failure that sends you into a bootloop - it might help.
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No problem, how can I look at the logcat?
Here, a dismantled fake battery with marking, suggesting that it's the same fake model that is used for i9100. I've examined it under a microscope to make sure, and even on the photo one can almost see it - the leftmost contact has a board lead left with vias, the middle board contacts have vias, the rightmost contact - the one for "NFC" - has neither vias nor board lead, it's just there for show, connected nowhere.
For logcat, just search the web. You need to enable ADB and have drivers in the PC, apps are not good - because you need log from the boot time. One guide, for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726238
There are many more. Search "how to use adb logcat".
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If you prefer other terms, like "counterfeit" - I don't mind the term as long as it stresses the right thing: these batteries aren't built by Samsung, aren't built by anyone that builds for Samsung, aren't of any "official" descent and are crappy (which makes their "SAMSUNG" sticker fake, by the way), so anyone who expects them to match the original battery is heading for a big disappointment. And I used 2 of those too
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Good points, and good information; so by definition I should have said "counterfeit". Thanks for clarifying some things.
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zorak20 said:
The problems is that without NFC on the battery you cannot charge it...don't you have this problem?
Are you using a i777 or a i9100 battery? Which rom are you using?
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This is the one I'm using - 100% counterfeit but works fine. Does not support NFC but have never had any problems with it. It's cheap for a reason, as it's most definitely not 2200mAh (pretty much stock 1650mAh, or close to it), but it functions well enough for me.
@SteveMurphy
I just looked at the one you are using on ebay, it does not say anything about the battery cover for this 2200mAh. Does it same size as original that does not require new battery cover?
Thanks.
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@SteveMurphy
I just looked at the one you are using on ebay, it does not say anything about the battery cover for this 2200mAh. Does it same size as original that does not require new battery cover?
Thanks.
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It's the same size as stock, no need for another cover.
Hey everyone,
I'm just gonna get straight to the point my charger has completely stopped working and I need a new bottom module. My phone model is the H850 is it really necessary to get the right one because I read up about people getting bottom module replacements and the phone says Insert a supported module and the phone will refuse to work. I'm from the UK could anyone link me a H850 Battery Module so I can buy the right one.
Many Thanks
ZuneYT said:
Hey everyone,
I'm just gonna get straight to the point my charger has completely stopped working and I need a new bottom module. My phone model is the H850 is it really necessary to get the right one because I read up about people getting bottom module replacements and the phone says Insert a supported module and the phone will refuse to work. I'm from the UK could anyone link me a H850 Battery Module so I can buy the right one.
Many Thanks
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https://www.ebay.com/i/262752657291?chn=ps&dispItem=1
https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai...EwiHn-fnxajXAhXGYyYKHcIfBc8Q2CkIhQMwCQ&adurl=
I found out the hard way i got a sprint and Verizon models and they are not interchangeable
Shame on you LG.....
Google is your best friend mate
https://www.google.com/search?q=h85...xqjXAhVr9YMKHZ2lBmMQ_AUICigB&biw=1262&bih=612
TheMadScientist said:
https://www.ebay.com/i/262752657291?chn=ps&dispItem=1
https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai...EwiHn-fnxajXAhXGYyYKHcIfBc8Q2CkIhQMwCQ&adurl=
I found out the hard way i got a sprint and Verizon models and they are not interchangeable
Shame on you LG.....
Google is your best friend mate
https://www.google.com/search?q=h85...xqjXAhVr9YMKHZ2lBmMQ_AUICigB&biw=1262&bih=612
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Thanks for the links I have bought one now and should be with me in a few days time. Thanks Mad Scientist :good:
ZuneYT said:
Thanks for the links I have bought one now and should be with me in a few days time. Thanks Mad Scientist :good:
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A good idea is to find the charging cradle and spare batt. I got 2 g5s. So i ended up with 3 batts and a cradle.
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A good idea is to find the charging cradle and spare batt. I got 2 g5s. So i ended up with 3 batts and a cradle.
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God damn Scientist Hahaha you're well prepared! Yeah I got another spare battery with me obviously with the lg g5 battery's performance it is necessary to carry one with you. I'm not too sure about the LG battery cradle I just dont think its that useful to me I charge one battery when its full then i charge the other one.
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God damn Scientist Hahaha you're well prepared! Yeah I got another spare battery with me obviously with the lg g5 battery's performance it is necessary to carry one with you. I'm not too sure about the LG battery cradle I just dont think its that useful to me I charge one battery when its full then i charge the other one.
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I have several type c cords numbered the batts 1 2 and 3. So its never a out thing. I like the cradle as it protects the batt from pennies and such in the pocket. No one likes a rocket in the pocket. Lol:silly:
Im not big on the modular swap out as does wear and tear on the modules but my usb ports like new....
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I have several type c cords numbered the batts 1 2 and 3. So its never a out thing. I like the cradle as it protects the batt from pennies and such in the pocket. No one likes a rocket in the pocket. Lol:silly:
Im not big on the modular swap out as does wear and tear on the modules but my usb ports like new....
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Hahah thats true swapping it does deteriorate the battery when swapping it on a constant use. My bottom module has come but It still not charging at all, I don't understand whats wrong with the phone I've checked for anything thats effecting the charging port especially the new one and found nothing. I had like 3% of battery left on my phone everything seems normal nothing is wrong with the phone except that its not charging at all.
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Hahah thats true swapping it does deteriorate the battery when swapping it on a constant use. My bottom module has come but It still not charging at all, I don't understand whats wrong with the phone I've checked for anything thats effecting the charging port especially the new one and found nothing. I had like 3% of battery left on my phone everything seems normal nothing is wrong with the phone except that its not charging at all.
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Gonna be a pretty dumb question. BUT have you replaced your cable?? It might of had a sudden death or is your wire damaged by any chance, any exposed cables showing? If so then replace your charger wire not saying it will repair your problem but give it a try.
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Gonna be a pretty dumb question. BUT have you replaced your cable?? It might of had a sudden death or is your wire damaged by any chance, any exposed cables showing? If so then replace your charger wire not saying it will repair your problem but give it a try.
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Okay I replaced the charger, wire and battery everything seems to be in working order! Thanks everyone!