Kind of makes me feel better missing the great deal, though at $100, the current function still makes the device a bargain.
Based on the time that has passed, seems a easy to install for the masses and 100% functional Android firmware gets more remote, as time passes.
I would still buy one in a second for $100
So you don't have a touchpad right?
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rushless said:
Kind of makes me feel better missing the great deal, though at $100, the current function still makes the device a bargain.
Based on the time that has passed, seems a easy to install for the masses and 100% functional Android firmware gets more remote, as time passes.
I would still buy one in a second for $100
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1. You are an idiot
2. Search for cm7 progress for th touchpad.
rushless said:
Kind of makes me feel better missing the great deal, though at $100, the current function still makes the device a bargain.
Based on the time that has passed, seems a easy to install for the masses and 100% functional Android firmware gets more remote, as time passes.
I would still buy one in a second for $100
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Yawn........
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shadowhawk2020 said:
1. You are an idiot
2. Search for cm7 progress for th touchpad.
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I didnt have the energy to reply to his question, lol, well done mate for your strength
It makes me sick how misinformed people are about the Android port, just because it isnt in their pocket 24 hours after they bought the product...
Its coming, and so is ICS for us, if you bought this tablet for even 300 pounds you got a bargin because it will have the most advanced mobile operating system on it very soon so well done
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I didnt have the energy to reply to his question, lol, well done mate for your strength
It makes me sick how misinformed people are about the Android port, just because it isnt in their pocket 24 hours after they bought the product...
Its coming, and so is ICS for us, if you bought this tablet for even 300 pounds you got a bargin because it will have the most advanced mobile operating system on it very soon so well done
JD
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It makes me feel so better missing the great deal... hahaha, from that line all you know thats coming is garbage. lollol
If you bought the TP, well done... This guy obviously got left behind and is showing his grief by trying to make us adopters look like we have made a mistake...
If you think a 1.2ghz dual core adreno chipset with an ips screen and wolfsen audio chip being sold for 100 dollars is not a missed opportunity, then i dont know what is!
Pat yourselves on the back TP buyers, you rock and know a future bargin when you see one
Rant Over There are just too many threads like this, and all they really do is just totally suck!
JD
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All you TPers are retarded for buying 330 in hardware for 100 dollars because an OS that needs to be assembled from nearly scratch isn't out yet!!
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Treello said:
All you TPers are retarded for buying 330 in hardware for 100 dollars because an OS that needs to be assembled from nearly scratch isn't out yet!!
/sarcasm
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no1 cares about your opinion.
If you dont likeit , never visit the TP section.
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no1 cares about your opinion.
If you dont likeit , never visit the TP section.
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lol i was confused by this too, for he put /sarcasm AFTER his comment he was joking im sure
just to ratify WHY someone should have bought one:
http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns/News/Pages/HP-TouchPad-Carries-$318-Bill-of-Materials.aspx
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lol i was confused by this too, for he put /sarcasm AFTER his comment he was joking im sure
just to ratify WHY someone should have bought one:
http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns/News/Pages/HP-TouchPad-Carries-$318-Bill-of-Materials.aspx
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for 500 dollars it was a ,joke. Its slow, the browser is buggy,freezes randomly for up to a few minutes and the cases develop cracks. If I had paid 500 bucks for mine,I would be very upset.
I paid 168 for mine though. For that price,I got a 32gb tablet with technical specifications similar to 500 dollar tablets. It all of the problems except the poor quality plastics are solvable when we get android. Since I'm the sort of person that likes Lessig around with my computers and phones (and now tablets) a tablet with an open is is something I like. Mine seems only to have developed a single crack. In hp s defense I'm told they will fix it,but if I send it in,I'll get a refurb that could be worse than what I have so I fixed it myself by prying the crack apart and applying a uL of a solution of 20% ethyl acetate and 80% tetrahydrofuran (home made plastic glue) and then I drilled a relief hole at the end of the crack with a very very small drill bit. if I had paid 500 I would be very angry at this. For 168 bucks,I can live with it.
Looking at the progress of cm7,its impressive. ICS will be amazing.
still worth the money, and Android's obviously right around the corner
the primary reason i bought mine ($200CAD w/ targus case) was because the hardware for that price is OUTSTANDING! its the same specs as the HTC sensation/evo3d, and i always knew android would be possible because of this. my biggest concerns for android efficency were the partition table and the fact that everything is done in userspace.
...but then again, i knew it was a challenge that CMteam couldnt resist ;P
why is this retards thread still active?
Because we as a community support the mentally challenged and support the diversity in our forums. Mainly because we are bored and hasn't been any real or good information on this forum in 2 months. Just people asking for the alpha of the cm build( that in itself is retarded)
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1. I basically posted would like one and was joking the "I was glad", since clearly posted- I would like one (aready have a Flyer and Thrive, but $100 is too good to pass up).
2. CM7 is not fully functional, in regards to all hardware on the device is working and stable.
3. Calling people idiots and morons is rude and usually comes from people in forums sitting in a dark room, eating Oreos and chugging Cokes. That said, I spent years in the Marines protecting freedom of speech, so have at it.
You twisted what I posted to your own defensive and "brilliant in our own mind" way.
Last time I checked, I have NEVER posted rude things about people in any thread. You people that were condescending can sincerely and respectfully bite it real good.
BTW, last time I checked, I have an under grad in computer electronics and an MBA with focus on economics. See, even "mentally challenged" former Marines can do well and rightfully so.
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1. I basically posted I would like one and was joking the "I was glad", since clearly posted I would like one and at $100 (aready have a Flyer and Thrive, but $100 is too good to pass up).
2. CM7 is not fully functional, in regards to all hardware on the device is working and stable.
3. Calling people idiots and morons is rude and usually comes from people in forums sitting in a dark room, eating Oreos and chugging Cokes. Then again I spent years in the Marines protecting freedom of speech, so have at it.
You twisted what I posted to your own defensive and "brilliant in our own mind" way.
Last time I checked, I have NEVER posted rude things about people in any thread. You people that were condescending can sincerely and respectfully bite it real good.
BTW, last time I checked, I have an under grad in computer electronics and an MBA with focus on economics. See, even "mentally challenged" former Marines can do well and rightfully so.
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your first post did come off as sour grapes, but this one made up for it lol. damn basement dwelling oreo eaters
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your first post did come off as sour grapes, but this one made up for it lol. damn basement dwelling oreo eaters
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Not sour, but surprised the Touch is more difficult to bake a 100% functional and stable rom than expected. Probably 80% of the people that bought this hoping they can get Android on it will have no clue how, unless installs as easy as an OTA (including root process), which probably is not likely.
As long as people appreciate it is still a bargain without a dead easy Android solution, they still will be happy. I do believe mentioning this in the OP as well. My Flyer and Thrive are great devices, so nothing but good wine here.
Just would like a low cost Christmas present, but another $100 or so will cover that if not.
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If I had posted this in the dev section, I could then kind of possibly seen a just ribbing, but the rudeness is childish. I would say "mentally challenged", but that would insult and demean people that are.
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1. I basically posted would like one and was joking the "I was glad", since clearly posted- I would like one (aready have a Flyer and Thrive, but $100 is too good to pass up).
2. CM7 is not fully functional, in regards to all hardware on the device is working and stable.
3. Calling people idiots and morons is rude and usually comes from people in forums sitting in a dark room, eating Oreos and chugging Cokes. That said, I spent years in the Marines protecting freedom of speech, so have at it.
You twisted what I posted to your own defensive and "brilliant in our own mind" way.
Last time I checked, I have NEVER posted rude things about people in any thread. You people that were condescending can sincerely and respectfully bite it real good.
BTW, last time I checked, I have an under grad in computer electronics and an MBA with focus on economics. See, even "mentally challenged" former Marines can do well and rightfully so.
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Thank you for your service. Semper Fi.
rushless said:
1. I basically posted would like one and was joking the "I was glad", since clearly posted- I would like one (aready have a Flyer and Thrive, but $100 is too good to pass up).
2. CM7 is not fully functional, in regards to all hardware on the device is working and stable.
3. Calling people idiots and morons is rude and usually comes from people in forums sitting in a dark room, eating Oreos and chugging Cokes. That said, I spent years in the Marines protecting freedom of speech, so have at it.
You twisted what I posted to your own defensive and "brilliant in our own mind" way.
Last time I checked, I have NEVER posted rude things about people in any thread. You people that were condescending can sincerely and respectfully bite it real good.
BTW, last time I checked, I have an under grad in computer electronics and an MBA with focus on economics. See, even "mentally challenged" former Marines can do well and rightfully so.
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obviously if you are even half as smart as you are portraying yourself to be, you would know this isn't a simple as making a ROM. They are importing an entirely new OS. If its so easy and should have already been done, then why couldn't your smart ass do it?
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obviously if you are even half as smart as you are portraying yourself to be, you would know this isn't a simple as making a ROM. They are importing an entirely new OS. If its so easy and should have already been done, then why couldn't your smart ass do it?
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Never said I was smart, but that even apparently "mentally challenged" can get ahead with their education.
The folks that work on CM7 are precisely why I am surprised. Point being, if they can not do it, it is NOT as easy as a lot of people assumed when they got the Touch.
Even if there is not a 100% stable and functioning Android OS, the device has more than enough function to cover the $100. Then again, the Touch would probably be selling pretty well to begin with if HP did not get so warm and fuzzy with Web OS. Seems having Android rather than Web OS to begin with would meant no $100 tablet liquidation sale to begin with.
Their strategic blunder got a LOT of people a great deal on a tablet.
Hate to spoil this love-fest w/data, but what the heck:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?5682-Build-Progress-Updated-10-9
I'm out.
rushless, you should check out the build progress thread on rootzwiki
if you really graduated with a degree in computer electronics you should know that writing an OS for a hardware that is made for another OS is a very difficult task because everything has to be written or acquired (by the graces of the manufacturer of either the device or part) from the ground up. This also includes writing the driver and also creating a kernel that is able to understand the communications between the device (hardware) and android.
whether or not they are 100% functional, it is to be noted that they have done ALOT and at an amazing speed.
Just because you haven't heard any news doesn't mean the chances of android diminishing. Fortunately for the rest of the world, you being up to date with the latest info does not affect the chances of progress happening. That's about it.
p.s. thank you for your service for our country.
Related
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/10/2627270/asus-denies-rumors-of-transformer-prime-delay
EDIT: I wouldn't trust this with all my heart either. As Asus's response is rather fishy and can be interpreted multiple ways.
xGary said:
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/10/2627270/asus-denies-rumors-of-transformer-prime-delay
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I am being patiently optimistic. I want to believe it but I will maintain a healthy skepticism until the box is in my hands.
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I am being patiently optimistic. I want to believe it but I will maintain a healthy skepticism until the box is in my hands.
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Part of me wants to believe it. Part of me still cannot explain the reported wifi issues on that chinese forum.
Do we know if this statement covers Canada as well? My Amazon.ca pre-order still shows Jan 31st as the expected ship date (ordered on Nov 26).
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Do we know if this statement covers Canada as well? My Amazon.ca pre-order still shows Jan 31st as the expected ship date (ordered on Nov 26).
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Hopefully. If the NCIX email was false then we (Canada) should be back on track. However, the Amazon delay is a stock issue rather than a delay as far as I know.
I'm in no way trying to be a mod, but was this thread needed? Was there not a thread posted earlier in regards to the phandroid and androidcentral articles based on the other thread where someone posted their letter from NCIX? Either way even though the rep used very loose words if you can read in between the lines, it pretty much falls in line with what I said. US is most likely on track still, just not a huge initial alotment. As an aside, these forums seemed to be going crazy today. I guess everyone is really anxious over the Prime, which they ought to be, and every article or piece of information regarding it, is driving everyone to the edge. We all need to just do whatever we usually do to relax and just enjoy talking about the tablet we are all looking forward to while we wait.
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http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/10/2627270/asus-denies-rumors-of-transformer-prime-delay
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Thank you, although I know I got on ur case in another thread..lmao I ran out of thanks. THIS IS THE FIRST ARTICLE THAT ACTUALLY HAS INFORMATION FROM THE HORSES MOUTH. The words that came out of the horses mouth, Asus, said there is no delay and they still on track for Dec. 19th release. Also verge, is thinkn theres no real widespread wifi issue.
I'm not by far an android fanboy. That person wouldn't own an iPad like I do. I'm a fan of technology in general. No matter the maker. It's just that this device is very promising and has already be said, by several big name sites, to be the best Android tablet by far, so far. To many people trying to nit pick negative info and rain on peoples parade and excitement of this new device which will be a first of it's kind in more ways than one. the majority of people who preordered still stickn with it.
Mission failed at trying to scare the real tech heads away from this device.
That's it... to much BS floating around here, and not enough facts... which is fine, but there are threads popping up every few minutes now about the release date... we need a moderator on this forum... Be putting this off for a while, but I'm volunteering.
See you on the flip side, and hopefully I'll be able to clean some of this crap up.
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I'm in no way trying to be a mod, but was this thread needed? Was there not a thread posted earlier in regards to the phandroid and androidcentral articles based on the other thread where someone posted their letter from NCIX? Either way even though the rep used very loose words if you can read in between the lines, it pretty much falls in line with what I said. US is most likely on track still, just not a huge initial alotment. As an aside, these forums seemed to be going crazy today. I guess everyone is really anxious over the Prime, which they ought to be, and every article or piece of information regarding it, is driving everyone to the edge. We all need to just do whatever we usually do to relax and just enjoy talking about the tablet we are all looking forward to while we wait.
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Actually this thread was needed.. With all the unofficial rumor threads going around. This first article to state official Asus statement saying there is no delay and basically no widespread wifi issues. You have new people checking out this forum section and see all these rumor threads/negative ones and it might deter them from a great device.
Not everyone smart enough to read in-between the lines. It's obvious that slot of people here will believe anything, with no official source to back it up. I'm like you though, I'm ready to relax. Once I get my tablet n everything fine, I'll be sitting back laughing at all these mofos so quick to jump to conclusions. They never gave the prime a fair trial. Innocent until proven guilty. They already giving out guilty verdict without no real evidence that's relevant enough. Lol
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That's it... to much BS floating around here, and not enough facts... which is fine, but there are threads popping up every few minutes now about the release date... we need a moderator on this forum... Be putting this off for a while, but I'm volunteering.
See you on the flip side, and hopefully I'll be able to clean some of this crap up.
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Well it's not like there is much to talk about other than rumours and release dates and such.
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*snip* We all need to just do whatever we usually do to relax and just enjoy talking about the tablet we are all looking forward to while we wait.
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I would, but I sold my Galaxy Tab 10.1 to buy the TP... so I'm jonesin' man, I need a fix! Just a minute, just let me play with the tablet for a minute! Or even look at it! Just to get me over the hump... c'mon man, I'm hurtin' here!
...ok, but no, really, I hadn't realized how much a tablet had changed my technology habits until I no longer had one. Crazy how a device I wasn't quite sure how I was going to use became, in such a short time, my go-to device.
Swiftks said:
That's it... to much BS floating around here, and not enough facts... which is fine, but there are threads popping up every few minutes now about the release date... we need a moderator on this forum... Be putting this off for a while, but I'm volunteering.
See you on the flip side, and hopefully I'll be able to clean some of this crap up.
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lol it just sounds like you want power.
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I would, but I sold my Galaxy Tab 10.1 to buy the TP... so I'm jonesin' man, I need a fix! Just a minute, just let me play with the tablet for a minute! Or even look at it! Just to get me over the hump... c'mon man, I'm hurtin' here!
...ok, but no, really, I hadn't realized how much a tablet had changed my technology habits until I no longer had one. Crazy how a device I wasn't quite sure how I was going to use became, in such a short time, my go-to device.
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yea, me to.. i got my ipad stolen 2 months ago, I AM JONESIN SOMETHING FIERCE!
i take a ****, ipad.
I go to bed, Ipad
I'm bored of xbox, ipad.
I wanna watch youpoop or read, IPAD!!!!!
hell i can't even get drunk at my friends house because i get bored without my IPAD!! i CAN. NOT. WAIT! for my asus.
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Actually this thread was needed.. With all the unofficial rumor threads going around. This first article to state official Asus statement saying there is no delay and basically no widespread wifi issues. You have new people checking out this forum section and see all these rumor threads/negative ones and it might deter them from a great device.
Not everyone smart enough to read in-between the lines. It's obvious that slot of people here will believe anything, with no official source to back it up. I'm like you though, I'm ready to relax. Once I get my tablet n everything fine, I'll be sitting back laughing at all these mofos so quick to jump to conclusions. They never gave the prime a fair trial. Innocent until proven guilty. They already giving out guilty verdict without no real evidence that's relevant enough. Lol
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Haha ok fine, I take back that part of my statement. Your thread is ok. I was just hoping people would try to consolidate all of information instead of creating multiple threads.
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I would, but I sold my Galaxy Tab 10.1 to buy the TP... so I'm jonesin' man, I need a fix! Just a minute, just let me play with the tablet for a minute! Or even look at it! Just to get me over the hump... c'mon man, I'm hurtin' here!
...ok, but no, really, I hadn't realized how much a tablet had changed my technology habits until I no longer had one. Crazy how a device I wasn't quite sure how I was going to use became, in such a short time, my go-to device.
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I feel you, I sold my TF to get the Prime and I'm just waiting myself. I try to keep my mind occupied and not think about it. Although everyday I check my order status on Newegg. lol
I'll believe it when Asus mentions something on an official channel.
Since all this speculation is the only entertainment I have as I study for finals i will play devil's advocate here.
That statement from asus is about as vague as it comes. we still "show" to be on schedule? If they are on schedule why not say they ARE on schedule to be released? Why beat around the bush?
Also the whole I will provide an update when i have more information? What more information are you waiting for if there is no delay? I thought you had the information and knew what you were talking about?
Finally why is there absolutely no actual reference to the delay or wifi issue? A simple, no there is no wifi issue, no there is no delay would allay everyone's concerns, but instead all we have is a very vague statement that does not fully dispel anything.
MUAHAHA let the war begin!
But really I think I may have been the first to post about the possible delay when I received an email from memory express stating there was some sort of production delay. Since then it only seems like NCIX has mentioned this to their customers so something weird is going on. It is odd that both retailers would mention a production delay if they were not told that was the case. But really it seems like the possibilities are there is some small problem with a few units (perhaps like the anandtech reviewers received, as in actually broken units) and asus happens to be reducing the units NCIX and memory express are getting. Or they simply do not have enough to fullfill all orders and are cutting out units from NCIX and memory express to fulfill other orders and then NCIX and memory express are lying to us.
I honestly believe the first is probably the most likely as I cant imagine first off memory express and NCIX both choosing to lie to their customers like that (and in my email they were actually quite explicit saying the Asus Vice President for North America Sales and Distribution contacted them about the delay. That is a pretty blatant lie to be telling customers.
Either way I'm staying hopeful I will get my unit sometime during the holiday season as I will be in alberta where the taxes I would have to pay is quite a bit lower! So come on anytime before Jan 4th! And hell if it turns out they lied to me about the whole vice president delay blah blah blah I'll give them hell and maybe get something out of it!
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Since all this speculation is the only entertainment I have as I study for finals i will play devil's advocate here.
That statement from asus is about as vague as it comes. we still "show" to be on schedule? If they are on schedule why not say they ARE on schedule to be released? Why beat around the bush?
Also the whole I will provide an update when i have more information? What more information are you waiting for if there is no delay? I thought you had the information and knew what you were talking about?
Finally why is there absolutely no actual reference to the delay or wifi issue? A simple, no there is no wifi issue, no there is no delay would allay everyone's concerns, but instead all we have is a very vague statement that does not fully dispel anything.
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I may not know much about companys and how they operate, but it seems like there most likely is an wifi issue with what they had to say. Like you said, why not just be like.. NOPE NOPE NOPE wifi good, we good, we give you soon?
there beating are bush and its way to fishy to me. I bet theres a wifi issue, but i don't think its a big deal, its probably a few models are screwed and the rest arn't as good as an laptop (do to what i read an another thread)
This was posted on slashgear's web site sorry I am not allowed to post the web link.
Late last night rumors hit the street that the ASUS Transformer Prime had been delayed and I’m sure a few were saddened by such news. After almost every online retails has sold out of the new quad-core slate we were quick to reach out to ASUS for an official response and have good news to report. According to our sources everything is on track and as planned.
Slashgear reported the samething
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-puts-delay-rumor-to-rest-confirms-transformer-prime-is-on-schedule-10201473/
So apparently some ASUS phone rep claimed deliveries are not delayed, what a shock. The loyal minions are will take this as some sort of official guarantee from Mr. Asus.
The level of baseless negativity here astounds me. It's almost as if people want to believe the thing will arrive 6 months late and is a piece of crap.
This is seriously the most bias review I have ever seen. He basically hates the phone because of the size and claims that it's not for anyone except Basketball players. Really?
Two local AT&T stores are currently sold out on this device. It's clearly selling. Zach should probably give up writing reviews and stick to opinion pieces.
http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/22/samsung-galaxy-note-review-the-smartphone-that-samsunged-samsung/
I've seen worse,
Is this the same review we discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495972
Edit: I see it has today's date. Guess he decided trashing it twice was better than once.
Yeah the initial review they did was pretty garbage, par for their site I guess, that's why I don't waste my time with them.
yeah the initial review was the "I've seen worse" lol
this is the same as seen in another thread. bgr are iphone fanboys anyhow.
unless you own an iphone there is no sense in even visiting that site..besides i think all the reviewwers there have freakishly small hands like the BK commercial..
Short man syndrome.
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unless you own an iphone there is no sense in even visiting that site..besides i think all the reviewwers there have freakishly small hands like the BK commercial..
Short man syndrome.
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Careful with the short man syndrome stuff... I got some small hands, am a short man, and would not give up the Note for anything! Why would I? I can use a tablet with any problems, I should definitely be able to use the Galaxy Note...
you know i honestly wonder if apple pays for sites like that.
Oh I dunno...he did stick with that stupid "they'll laugh at you". And if you're a fanatic of wanting to easily do things with just one hand, maybe the Note isn't for you. But almost the entire review was him praising the Note. I think the only other thing he was critical of was he wished they'd made the screen more smudge proof like on the S2.
But he did say if you wanted a large phone that would attract attention or a small tab, then this was def the phone for you. So I'm not exactly how biased against the phone he's being like Geller or whatever his name is.
I will say that this phone does indeed attract attention. My high school and middle school students were freaked out when they saw it on Mon and Tues. And the fellow teachers all wanted to play with it. I had it at the gym and a lot of people that saw it came up and asked what it was. A large percentage of them really liked it and were thinking about getting one because of the large screen to browse the web, play games, and work with files, etc.
I think not being able to text neatly with one hand is well worth all the benefits of this phone.
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you know i honestly wonder if apple pays for sites like that.
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I have seen strange things when it comes to competition in the market place.
That is all I am going to say....
codeworks said:
Careful with the short man syndrome stuff... I got some small hands, am a short man, and would not give up the Note for anything! Why would I? I can use a tablet with any problems, I should definitely be able to use the Galaxy Note...
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I meant no offense..
I'm believe the fact that I can't do a lot of things one handed easily as a bonus now. More times then not it simply stops me from using my phone when I really shouldn't.
Unfortunately, we are still living in an Apple world. It seems like more and more people are switching, and realizing that they've been duped into having a company tell them what's best for them. BGR is still under that company's spell.
This review wasn't nearly as bad as Johnathon's, but complaining about the size of smart phones nowadays is getting ridiculous. I could understand if it was an enormous brick, but it's more thin than the iP4.
Basically at this point, it does help to make a list of websites that are Apple-infested...and to avoid them completely. Obviously each click to their sites benefits them..so yeah.
I didn't bother opening the article...but seems like this other BGR guy also said no ones gonna buy the Note.
Based on 3 nearby at&t stores that I stopped by, they're currently sold out. When I asked them what kinds of people bought it, they said surprisingly iPhone people made the switch cuz they wanted the extra screen estate that's offered.
It really was a pretty fair review all the way up to the "size" paragraph. It will be hilarious looking back at the biased "journalism" of BGR and other iphanboi sites when the Note is finally recognized as a truly trendsetting device in about a year.
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this is exactly like the evo was a few years back. everyone thought it was massive. now its the standard
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Is this the same review we discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495972
Edit: I see it has today's date. Guess he decided trashing it twice was better than once.
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Exactly! I thought that his first post about the Note was ridiculous! He must have baby hands! That site is an iMachine anyway!
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But he did say if you wanted a large phone that would attract attention or a small tab, then this was def the phone for you. So I'm not exactly how biased against the phone he's being like Geller or whatever his name is.
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He's still making fun of the phone/people that buy it with that statement. It's not even remotely a positive comment.
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He's still making fun of the phone/people that buy it with that statement. It's not even remotely a positive comment.
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Then I guess you missed his comments on how he got a fulls day use out of one battery charge and how gorgeous the screen was and how fast it was and how nice the hardware looked? He actually listed a lot of good things about the Note.
And I don't see where he actually made fun of a person using the phone. He said it would attract attention and that it was a phone made for a basketball player but he never insulted anyone that would buy the phone. I think he even said if you shrunk it down about 20%, so that would drop it back down to around the 4.3/4.5" mark. So he's not exactly against phones larger than the iPhone.
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Then I guess you missed his comments on how he got a fulls day use out of one battery charge and how gorgeous the screen was and how fast it was and how nice the hardware looked? He actually listed a lot of good things about the Note.
And I don't see where he actually made fun of a person using the phone. He said it would attract attention and that it was a phone made for a basketball player but he never insulted anyone that would buy the phone. I think he even said if you shrunk it down about 20%, so that would drop it back down to around the 4.3/4.5" mark. So he's not exactly against phones larger than the iPhone.
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From his original "review" and his dumb comments on his twitter account, I honestly think he just threw in a couple of positives after taking so much heat for his original assessment so that he could look less biased. Just my opinion/theory.
Almost every instance on using this phone in public, people either stop and stare or they ask questions. It isn't like I'm trying to bring attention to myself but everyone is always asking if that is the new note. I leave it on my desk at work and whenever people come into my office, I'm asked about it and they want to doodle with the stylus. I hope this interest turns into more sales so that Samsung is prompted to come out with more phones in this line in the future. I simply refuse to go to any other phone now.
If you watched any basketball this weekend, the commercials were constant. They certainly seem to expect good sales:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...llion-galaxy-notes-hopes-10-million-years-end
If you seek attention, I'm sure you will find it.
Seems as if you either walk around waving this phone in the air or you are doing something to draw attention to yourself.
Its only a phone dude!
I get a kick out of these type of threads. I used to read them on the iPhone forums and laugh, but it seems the same type of people are here as well.
Probably a bit of an underage issue a well.
I've been using the latest phones and tablets for awhile now and have never had anyone come up to me and ask me about any of them . Those that say they constantly have people coming up to them at obviously seeking attention.
Remember...a phone does not make you cool
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I've been using the latest phones and tablets for awhile now and have never had anyone come up to me and ask me about any of them . Those that say they constantly have people coming up to them at obviously seeking attention.
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I have both asked and been asked by strangers about phones I've owned. Perhaps people don't ask you because you give off a bad vibe, or smell bad, or something.
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I have both asked and been asked by strangers about phones I've owned. Perhaps people don't ask you because you give off a bad vibe, or smell bad, or something.
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I smell bad but still get asked about my Note.
I got the note cause I'm fat and needed a big keyboard. So far the only ones to ask me about it are my close friends. Never have I had someone cone up to me or stare at me because of this phone.
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Lol i got approached by a stranger the first day i got it at in & out burger. Whenever i play draw something with the s-pen, thats when people start to stare and i could hear em saying wow and omg thats a huge...(insert joke here). But put this phone next to your ear and you get strange looks.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
I had my phone out at Nordstroms looking at Google shopper for shoes I wanted. The salesman there asked if it was and I've probably been asked over a dozen times if its the note or wow that's huge what is it.
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If you seek attention, I'm sure you will find it.
Seems as if you either walk around waving this phone in the air or you are doing something to draw attention to yourself.
Its only a phone dude!
I get a kick out of these type of threads. I used to read them on the iPhone forums and laugh, but it seems the same type of people are here as well.
Probably a bit of an underage issue a well.
I've been using the latest phones and tablets for awhile now and have never had anyone come up to me and ask me about any of them . Those that say they constantly have people coming up to them at obviously seeking attention.
Remember...a phone does not make you cool
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Your comment seems quite underage. Just because some people have strangers asking them about devices and you don't doesn't mean they are lying or looking for attention.
Really only a few devices in the recent past, such as the Droid RAZR, have received as much media attention and advertising as the Note, so all of your latest tablets and phones have likely not drawn the same attention from the general public. Therefore you cannot compare them to the Note.
I do not show off my phones, I use them. With my Captivate, I received no comments from strangers. With my Infuse, I had a couple, but only from people familiar with Android that were curious what brand and model it was. With the Note, same use and everything, I have received more comments and attention than the whole time I had both of my previous phone, in just two weeks. Dude in line at Chipotle, girl employee at Home Depot, several people I have never talked to in my classes here at college. This phone is turning heads whether you are looking for attention or not, so don't be a downer because nobody finds you approachable.
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You guys are so funny, thought this would never happen to me.
Went to get my drugs at the pharmacy, and the 3 people behind the counter all came over to look at it and touch it, they asked the same questions. Yes it fits in my shirt pocket, and I let them try it.
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Almost every instance on using this phone in public, people either stop and stare or they ask questions. It isn't like I'm trying to bring attention to myself but everyone is always asking if that is the new note. I leave it on my desk at work and whenever people come into my office, I'm asked about it and they want to doodle with the stylus. I hope this interest turns into more sales so that Samsung is prompted to come out with more phones in this line in the future. I simply refuse to go to any other phone now.
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i don't know about the Advertising
but after using it hands on for a few days I'm addicted, it's so hard to get back to my T989
I get a lot of looks, and some comments. mostly "is that a phone???", "is that the one with a pen?", or "Is that the Super Bowl phone?" (referring the commercials played at the Super Bowl).
I have a gold metallic case on it so most of the time it looks like I am carrying a huge gold bar. Funny the looks I get.
I get asked about it all the time. I'll just be sitting on the train or at the bar or something and I guarantee someone will ask about it.
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i don't know about the Advertising
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It's definitely not the advertising. It's the fact that it's a larger phone. I used a Dell Streak for 1.5 years and got the same type of comments about it.
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Your comment seems quite underage. Just because some people have strangers asking them about devices and you don't doesn't mean they are lying or looking for attention.
Really only a few devices in the recent past, such as the Droid RAZR, have received as much media attention and advertising as the Note, so all of your latest tablets and phones have likely not drawn the same attention from the general public. Therefore you cannot compare them to the Note.
I do not show off my phones, I use them. With my Captivate, I received no comments from strangers. With my Infuse, I had a couple, but only from people familiar with Android that were curious what brand and model it was. With the Note, same use and everything, I have received more comments and attention than the whole time I had both of my previous phone, in just two weeks. Dude in line at Chipotle, girl employee at Home Depot, several people I have never talked to in my classes here at college. This phone is turning heads whether you are looking for attention or not, so don't be a downer because nobody finds you approachable.
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Not worth the time to comment but I will anyway. I use my phone for business, not playing games. I don't "play" with it while waiting in a food line, nor do I walk around with it like it is a trophy. Many here do. That is obvious. As far as being "approachable", I am not looking for strangers to come up to me and ask about my phone, and I certainly don't want them "touching" it. The reason I even responded to this post was because the OP stated that the Note exuded a "coolness' factor. That certainly tells me how old he or she is.
We all grow up someday. Some of us a bit later I guess.
Give it time.
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Not worth the time to comment but I will anyway. I use my phone for business, not playing games. I don't "play" with it while waiting in a food line, nor do I walk around with it like it is a trophy. Many here do. That is obvious. As far as being "approachable", I am not looking for strangers to come up to me and ask about my phone, and I certainly don't want them "touching" it. The reason I even responded to this post was because the OP stated that the Note exuded a "coolness' factor. That certainly tells me how old he or she is.
We all grow up someday. Some of us a bit later I guess.
Give it time.
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I also use my phone for business, not playing games. The only time games get played on my Note is when I let one of my grandchildren use it to keep them occupied. Nor do I walk around with it like it is a trophy as you put it. That being said, I still think it has a 'coolness' factor and yes, I have been asked about it in public. I spend a great deal of time on the phone when out - isn't that kind of the point to have a cell? If I didn't want to talk on the phone outside the office, I wouldn't carry it. I really do not mind people asking about it.
phone is awesome and everyone knows it.
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Not worth the time to comment but I will anyway. I use my phone for business, not playing games. I don't "play" with it while waiting in a food line, nor do I walk around with it like it is a trophy. Many here do. That is obvious. As far as being "approachable", I am not looking for strangers to come up to me and ask about my phone, and I certainly don't want them "touching" it. The reason I even responded to this post was because the OP stated that the Note exuded a "coolness' factor. That certainly tells me how old he or she is.
We all grow up someday. Some of us a bit later I guess.
Give it time.
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You sure know how to wash down a party. I am a network admin for a defense contractor, so it is needed for work, and I do not just go waving it around looking for attention. If I want attention, I talk to my wife.
Glad your so boring.
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Not worth the time to comment but I will anyway. I use my phone for business, not playing games. I don't "play" with it while waiting in a food line, nor do I walk around with it like it is a trophy. Many here do. That is obvious. As far as being "approachable", I am not looking for strangers to come up to me and ask about my phone, and I certainly don't want them "touching" it. The reason I even responded to this post was because the OP stated that the Note exuded a "coolness' factor. That certainly tells me how old he or she is.
We all grow up someday. Some of us a bit later I guess.
Give it time.
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Wow u need to relax. I use mine for work and personal enjoyment. This phone is great u need to take the phone or stick out of u r @ss!
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The lame response by lindenhurst has inspired me to share.
Story#1 (2 weeks ago)
I attended my wife's induction into the honor society for her university yesterday afternoon. There were 16 inductees and we all socialized a bit before the ceremony began. I was to pin my wife so I quickly made nice with the couple that sat next to us and asked if they would mind tag teaming on getting pics of the pinning action. All was set. If you could have seen the look on the face of the guy (and others around us). When I pulled out my Note... He said "what is that!?!? ". Of course, I took the opportunity to demonstrate the wonders of the Note to him as his amazement grew. After he got a chance to handle it and snap a few pics of us during our part of the ceremony he was hooked. His wife looked at me and said "I guess he's found a new toy now.. I can see it in his eyes".. I just laughed and went about my business. He had an iPhone.
Story#2 (last week)
So I venture into my local Best Buy to return an item. As I am standing at the return counter waiting for the guy to process my return, I am typing away in facebook and fully engaged on my Note. The young girl behind the counter next to him said "Wow. Is that the Note? I want to get one so badly. My mom won't let me but I am going to figure out a way to get one. I love that phone." I then let her hold it because she was so starstruck with it.. Really... I laughed inside.
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This.
Well I was told to go elsewhere to complain about Asus and the problems I am having with the $680 64Gb prime I bought. So since Diamondback is getting tired of closing threads and deleting posts, I decided on starting a thread were people who need or want to vent can come and vent. And to be fair if you have good things to say about Asus or your Prime please share it here.
As I have tried to say before I like my Prime but am getting tired of the problems that have not been fixed or pop up after an update is released..
I think the gps dongle, while a nice gesture was a misstep for Asus. I would have just taken that on the chin. The hardware/software problems that have not been resolved are far worse. I don't give a s- about gps. Again, nice move on their part, but the dongle does me zero good if the damn thing crashes and freezes. I'll take the wifi issues, it's not that bad. Just give me a functional f'n unit that doesn't run slower than my ibm 286. \rant
There is a class action suit going on. I was actually contacted today by one of the lawyers doing it. You can email [email protected] and tell him you want to be apart of it.
I miss the complaint thread. At least there was the hope that Asus would actually read their own thread, which ended up not being the case.
Better hurry up, this one will probably closed to.
Bout to pack bags from XDA with all of this crap. Its a shame.
All were looking for is answers.
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There is a class action suit going on. I was actually contacted today by one of the lawyers doing it. You can email [email protected] and tell him you want to be apart of it.
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Another one? I thought that got killed
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Better hurry up, this one will probably closed to.
Bout to pack bags from XDA with all of this crap. Its a shame.
All were looking for is answers.
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Another one? I thought that got killed
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its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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I think the gps dongle, while a nice gesture was a misstep for Asus. I would have just taken that on the chin. The hardware/software problems that have not been resolved are far worse. I don't give a s- about gps. Again, nice move on their part, but the dongle does me zero good if the damn thing crashes and freezes. I'll take the wifi issues, it's not that bad. Just give me a functional f'n unit that doesn't run slower than my ibm 286. \rant
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Absolutely true.
Asus took the easy way out by sending us a 4 dollar piece of plastic and wire, instead of working on the actual issues.
Since i see demandarin posting in this thread, so much for your update prediction. This is getting totally ridiculous. , and Asus seems fine with it.I have bought so much Asus stuff over the years, i will be rethinking that, after the prime fiasco,
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its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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Class action suits are awesome for all lawyers involved and the original filer. No one added to the class gets anything useful.
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demandarin said:
its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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That's really your personal opinion on the matter. How it unfolds.. I guess we'll have to just wait and see (we won't find out until few yrs later anyways). Btw, what do you mean by no "official" filing?
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/02/13/ColinvASUS.pdf
What else do you need?? What's more official?
You sir are mistaken.
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its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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This is not correct, the papers were filed over two months ago, the case is strong and will move forward in good time. ASuS as already been to two informal hearing at the various law firms involved when they were in CA. And as stated in previous post, you can let the team know that you'd like to be a part if they need anymore actual users of this product to appear in court. I've been watching mr. demandarin for quite some time and I'm sorry to say, but I feel he is either privileged by ASUS or just a tireless fan boy. Nothing wrong with enjoying a product and company that as serviced you to your satisfaction, but most of us that have kept quite for some time have followed long and tedious arguments that involved this individual. I give credit where credit is due but do not idolize any company, person, device or anything else so I can be a little more unbiased when assessing a situation. If you are unhappy with a product, this is the place to seek help, and if you can get a actual rep to listen, good for you! If you can't, then it's time to take legal action and get louder so that others are protected from having the same treatment as you. So by all means, follow the previous posters advice, seek out legal action. It will be funny to see how many fans will have their hand's out for the settlement money when it is awarded. Mark my words.
Thanks
I am glad to see that this tread is getting used. I also want to thank all who posted here as I have learned more about what is going on and what people are looking for. I have learned that I am not the only one who wants a stable working Prime over a GPS dongle.
I also would like to know if anyone has tried to use a Huawei E369 Datacard with their Prime. I have read that the Huawei 17xx was working but would like to buy the newest one out that will work so it will last at least 5 years before it becomes outdated.
I've noticed as of late that asus has stfu about everything. I realize that Gary was sick, but "official posts" are becoming fewer and farther between. They are going into defense mode. They know they are sol to fix the issues without having to put out a full recall which is a huge embarrassment and going to cost them an arm and a leg, plus street cred. It's getting to end game folks. They better be brewing a software miracle, or an overall solution. I think a lawsuit has legs with the horrible performance, Dongle be damned.
I would think a class action lawsuit has a foothold. There is absolutely no way that Asus did not know about the wifi and GPS issues when they launched. They got caught up in the "iPad killer" hype and wanted to get them out by Christmas. The lack of advertising by Asus and the retail establishment is icing on the cake.
Funny thing is that I picked up a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 for my birthday last week and it is snappier than my Prime (especially when browsing and installing from the Play store)
The lack of updates is disconcerting as well. Perhaps there are no further firmware/software fixes for this device.
It is simply a small blip on the Android Tablet radar that will go down in history as a complete and utter failure.
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I am glad to see that this tread is getting used. I also want to thank all who posted here as I have learned more about what is going on and what people are looking for. I have learned that I am not the only one who wants a stable working Prime over a GPS dongle.
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There has been a ton of discussion about this just today, problem is it keeps getting shut down, either by reported posts, or, over zealous mods, either way, the ends the same
The mysterious , unreleased firmware should be telling everybody something, the og transformer has had the update to .24 for quite sometime, the prime testers have had it for at least 2 weeks or more, one in particular gave today as a release date, even though some of those testers are reporting good results, I'm not buying it. If it was ready for prime time it would have dropped.It seems like I have new issues pop up every day, or the same issues manifesting in different ways
I have multiple issues with prime, i am going to ask Asus for a refund, probably more than ask, and go with something else, other tegra 3 tablets available, and the A700 and thrive are getting rave reviews, They certainly can't be worse than the Prime, and i doubt they will go backwards with no explanation like the prime.Asus is going to lose my business for sure
I have 2 different PM's to both Asus_usa and Gary key, for 2 and a half days now, so far no response yet, for dedicated forum support, thats unacceptable.
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demandarin said:
its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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opps... didnt see someone posted the link to the filing. lol But If anything comes from it remains to be seen..
All I want is the browser sped up and I would be perfectly happy. Gary mentioned that there would be an upgrade to browsing in the new firmware but after this much time it leads you to think that it must be a hardware issue. Although Asus has always been outed by other sources before they give out any real information.
I bought a top of the line Android Tablet and I swear my girlfriends Kindle browses the internet faster.
It is also odd to see that new post the other day about the Asus Nexus Tablet. It is hard to believe that they would be able to meet Demand or Expectations after all of the Prime problems.
Yea I am getting tired closing all your threads....
What's so hard about posting in existing threads?
I understand that you want answers, I want them too, but making new threads each day complaning about the issues won't get you any answers...
Gary doesn't answer in threads, so maybe the situation will change with the new guy - Asus_USA - but until then please use the existing threads.
This is a discussion about the Gs3's future sales after the announcement of the most popular phone on the market, there have already been numerous 'comparison' threads closed, lets not turn this into one of those.
After today's underwhelming announcement of the iPhone5, the people sitting on the fence about whether to switch to the Galaxy S3 or Note2 (or something else) have to make a decision.
I've been reading comments on Android fan sites, Apple fan sites, and 'Neutral' tech sites, and the general feeling I got from all of them is that the iPhone5 just hasn't done enough to persuade a lot of people to stick with them.
Now, obviously, this thing will sell like hotcakes for the people that don't know any different to make an educated decision / that actually like the iPhone anyway / have bought too heavily into the apple ecosystem to switch now.
But those that are in the know, like everyone who watched the olympics... the S3 was plastered all over the place ... and the people that were keeping up with the patent trials (anyone who reads the news) will now know that there are better offerings out there and most likely opt for a Gs3.
So, do you think we will see a significant boost from the already 20m phones already sold?
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Samsung has done a wonderful job with the SGS3 and I'm sure the sales will keep up for some time, but it's not easy to convert Apple fanboys to Samsung. I don't think the sales are going to rise much further. The iPhone caught up pretty good (at least in the eyes of casual users).
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Samsung has done a wonderful job with the SGS3 and I'm sure the sales will keep up for some time, but it's not easy to convert Apple fanboys to Samsung. I don't think the sales are going to rise much further. The iPhone caught up pretty good (at least in the eyes of casual users).
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Even those that have been sitting on the fence the last couple of months to see what Apple has to offer?
Also, a personal insight, my mom and sister got a gs3 shortly after release, and genuinely with no persuading from me. They aren't tech heads, but they knew a class phone when they seen it.
The guys waiting for today to make their decision i think will go galaxy.
i think so, seen people taking 99$ deal on amazon right now
it will not be huge spike but there is going to be one.
for me the new iphone disappoint
no new tech or old favorites like fm radio, xenon flash, still LCD and only 4'
i mean 4.5 would have been fine
I wouldn't under estimate the loyalty a large percentage of smartphone users have towards Apple. Most of us probably had an iPhone at one time and moved to Andriod because we expanded our knowedge to include other smartphones and made an informed decision. There are a lot of people that don't realize there are options and will still buy the iPhone 5. Not sure if they will sell 20M after what I saw today but I have learned to never under estimate people with loyalties...
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I wouldn't under estimate the loyalty a large percentage of smartphone users have towards Apple. Most of us probably had an iPhone at one time and moved to Andriod because we expanded our knowedge to include other smartphones and made an informed decision. There are a lot of people that don't realize there are options and will still buy the iPhone 5. Not sure if they will sell 20M after what I saw today but I have learned to never under estimate people with loyalties...
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My boss wanted to buy the iphone 5. He is very loyalty to Apple. But he started liking my S3. He already have doubts about buying iphone or not.
My mission: convert him into an android guy and wake him up to the reality
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I wouldn't under estimate the loyalty a large percentage of smartphone users have towards Apple. Most of us probably had an iPhone at one time and moved to Andriod because we expanded our knowedge to include other smartphones and made an informed decision. There are a lot of people that don't realize there are options and will still buy the iPhone 5. Not sure if they will sell 20M after what I saw today but I have learned to never under estimate people with loyalties...
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Of course, they'll sell shed loads. But the huge advertising campaign with the Olympics, the recent trial and those already on the fence should have the gs3 planted in their heads! I think Samsung will steal a good few of them.
Htc might get a wee jeg too if they get in the news regarding the lte patents (if that even happens)
Exciting times for sure.
I've cleaned up the mess fellas. Please remember to be polite and let's not get too far into the "you know what" discussion. :highfive:
A guy named John Pirsig (sp?) wrote a book titled, 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' a couple of decades back. In it he proposes there are 'Romantic' and 'Classical' people. He and a friend rode across the US (in the book & maybe in real life) on bikes. He had a Harley and the friend a BMW. (patience, it's coming... ) When they rode up the Rockies, the bikes started playing up and while he stopped and worked on his bike, and finally realised it was the reduction in atmospheric pressure needing just a tweak to fix, his mate went and paid a small fortune in a town garage to get his BMW fixed.
Pirsig talked for a bit about those who want an end-result experience and those who wanted to enjoy the journey. Some people forever focus on the end result and miss all the learning and fun along the way, 'big picture' people for whom the nuts and bolts are a horror to be avoided at all costs - literally in the case of his BMW mate.
At the time, as a Helpdesk person, I realised most Mac users are Romantics, people for whom computers are very much NOT fun and who use them solely to get a result and because they have to. Windows users were often some of the same sort, using Windows simply because their work said they had to, but far more of them would, if the subject was explained in terms they understood, become interested in the process and learn to fix their own printer/Word/Excel issues etc.
Apple have polarised the world again with their same-old, same-old tactics. The recent court case against Samsung proves Apple have not lost their litigious attitude towards protecting things they stole in the first place. (WIMP from Rank Xerox) And again we are shown the division between the Romantics and the Classicals - these forums are full of Classicals - look around and you will see lots of people who post about how wonderful this or that version of a ROM is, only to upgrade instantly a new version or even a different ROM comes along.
For most XDA'ers, I think the journey IS the end result - we tend to be travelling along with no particular goal in mind apart from a nebulous 'perfect phone' concept, and if all the developers stopped producing new ROMs to try we'd be heartbroken.
The Apple is good enough for most Apple users, be it Mac, iPad or iPhone. We will never convince them otherwise because they have sipped at the Kool-Aid fountain and like most religious people, they cannot even SEE the contrary information. It doesn't matter if the new iPhone has an A5, A6, A15 or quad or dual, it will be better in their eyes because it powers an Apple. They don't MIND buying expensive corsds ands connectors of all kinds because it is for Apple.
And they definitely don't see an ongoing development process as being a thing of benefit - Apple has spent far too many dollars convincing their world that you don't ever upgrade your device software, you just buy a new device. It is the proud boast of many Apple users that their product is far more stable than Windows, but my old enemy Microsoft constantly produced product that would work (most of the time) on any PC made across a spread of about 10 years, while Apple only ever made software for a very specific hardware platform - if you like, MS made an OS while Apple made glorified Firmware.
The same scenario is happening right now with Android. Android is being made to support all kinds of devices, with a legion of eager supporters providing updates and fixes. (on more of a Linux model than a MS one) Apple will not produce an iOS6 for their old phones, just for the brand new one you have to pay a small fortune for. Samsung (and other Android vendors) are producing updates so you get more life from your phone, providing a level of support to their clients Apple has never tried to match.
And eventually, the numbers will tell - just as in the PC/Mac wars, Apple had to compromise in both hardware and software, (Intel chips and running Windows on Macs) they will find eventually their tactics fail them. In my opinion, Android is the up-and-coming world of phones and pads, and Apple is the dinosaur relying desperately on massive programming... sorry, I mean advertising to keep their victims... I mean customers, loyal.
I think there will be a swing away from Apple as the actuality of the new phone falls far short of expectations and even the glitz Apple will give things will not hide the fact that all they have done is copy what is already being sold for hundreds less. But don't go expecting those weaned on the Kool-Aid to be coming over any time soon - the religious always resist the encroaching reality checks of the real world.
And on a personal note? I LIKE Apple for their litigiousness and mean spirit. If they had been sensible back in the late 80's/early 90's, we'd all be using Macs and locked down so tight I wouldn't have had a 25 year computer career helping others. For more than 2 decades I've had a job description of, 'I'm a bloke, and I fix stuff' that would never have been possible if Apple had treated their customers as anything other than sheeple to be fleeced to the maximum. Their greed allowed PC's to develop and become what we see, and now Apple's greed and contempt will allow Android the space to grow and become the new ubiquitous OS for mobile devices.
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I didn't quote it all for obvious reasons, but god damn it, that is the best comment I have seen on xda in months.
If I could thank you twice I would.
Hats off to you sir, you have made my day. :thumbup:
I'm also gonna link this in my signature.
"It's all in the game yo, all in the game..." - Omar Little
^^ possibly the most eloquent post I have ever read. Bravo Sir.
Edit, nodstuff was too quick and got in the way..
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Mr Woolf said:
^^ possibly the most eloquent post I have ever read. Bravo Sir.
Edit, nodstuff was too quick and got in the way..
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Why thank you very much! I apprecia.....
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"It's all in the game yo, all in the game..." - Omar Little
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Why thank you very much! I apprecia.....
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"It's all in the game yo, all in the game..." - Omar Little
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*grins* In 1987 I bought an XT clone (1MB Ram, twin 5.25" FDD's - envy of the few I knew with PC's because I could put my programs floppy AND my data one in at the same time ) to write books. I was sick of having to re-type a page or more just to change a sentence. 3 months later the PC got me a new job supporting WPO's at 3 grand per year more than I was getting. and I still haven't written my SciFi books. Working on it now and of course, along comes bloody Samsung S3 with Android and I'm fighting against techo distractions again... le sigh...
Forums like XDA will help greatly with selling Android; some older members need to recall that they once didn't know stuff but mostly folk are very helpful and there is a LOT of info to be had here. Mind you, it suffers a bit from popularity - search for something you want to know and you get like 5000 threads to look through. Needs an Advanced Search function, or maybe I just haven't found it yet. And why can't I search on the entire Samsung S3 forum? le sigh...
I think the reaction from a number of sites about how the court case showed Apple users how they could get everything Apple offered for far less if they stepped away from the Kool-Aid spigot shows an interesting facet to the competition. I haven't seen such comment before, even for Mac/Pentium battles. Usually it was about the differences, not the fact you could get the same thing. It could make a difference, particularly if the members here make a point of posting such a view on any/all forums they are members on.
5th column... the ONLY Army to join...
It is surely a good day for people that knows stuff from the gadget world but for common people they are still awed no matter what. The power of Apple's marketing can even turn a pile of scrap metal into gold.
nodstuff said:
I didn't quote it all for obvious reasons, but god damn it, that is the best comment I have seen on xda in months.
If I could thank you twice I would.
Hats off to you sir, you have made my day. :thumbup:
I'm also gonna link this in my signature.
"It's all in the game yo, all in the game..." - Omar Little
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I'm gonna quote that to my signature too.-
bbc news, sky news.... ripping into the iPhone. They say it boring, more of the same... and they mention the s3 a few times in each article.
This is big.
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bbc news, sky news.... ripping into the iPhone. They say it boring, more of the same... and they mention the s3 a few times in each article.
This is big.
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Source?
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Journyman16 said:
A guy named John Pirsig (sp?) wrote a book ...
Excellent, tanks
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CuBz90 said:
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just Search : iPhone 5: Consumer Anger Over £25 Adaptor
I'd link but not allowed :fingers-crossed:
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http://news.sky.com/story/984469/new-iphone-is-more-of-the-same-from-apple
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19557497