[Q] Touchscreen grid large compared to Iphone? - Motorola Photon 4G

I purchased the Photon on release day and have had no problems with it (shutoffs, reboots, screen of death, etc.). I came from an Iphone 4 on AT&T because I wanted unlimited data. My only gripe is what appears to be touchscreen sensitivity/preciseness.
When I look at my Photon with the screen turned off in the sunlight at an angle, I can see a grid of boxes that appears to be the touchsensing grid. When I look at an Iphone the same way, I can see a similar type of grid.
The difference in the grids is substantial, the Photon grid boxes are significantly larger than those on the Iphone.
I've noticed that in general, the Photon has worse touch sensitivity than the Iphone 4 did. Making exact screen presses on website links, for example, is simply not as fluid or precise. Not even the unlock keypad works as well.
I haven't had an opportunity to look at the Epic Touch (GS2), I'm wondering what the grid is like on this phone?
Anybody else here notice a lack of preciseness with the Photon touchscreen? Is it an Android issue or a hardware issue?

The grids are becuase the screen has an arrangement of pixels and subpixels called PenTile Matrix, which makes it appear as if it had more resolution than it actually does.
That does not affect, however, the touchscreen quality. The SGS2 does not have the square thingy.

You have too much time on your hands.

JCSands1109 said:
You have too much time on your hands.
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Ha ha
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robinrisk said:
The grids are becuase the screen has an arrangement of pixels and subpixels called PenTile Matrix, which makes it appear as if it had more resolution than it actually does.
That does not affect, however, the touchscreen quality. The SGS2 does not have the square thingy.
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No, I am familiar with the pentile nature of the screen.
l am referring directly to the capacitive matrix grid above the lcd used to sense finger presses. The grid squares are very large in comparison to the iPhone. That makes me wonder if the touchscreen is less accurate. Look at both phones with the screen at an angle in direct sunlight. Each has a grid.

I would definitely agree its not at fluid as other phones I've used but damn can it be touchy. Scrolling down a webpage always seems to end up in a unintended click for me.

Yeah mine can be touchy as well. Mostly with the xda app
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Screen Colors Off?

Does anyone eleses yellows and Greens look off esp the yellows they seem to be very dull and off and almost orange
I agree, the market icon look Olive-colored on Atrix 4G
A lot of you were looking at the oversaturated SAMOLED screens for a long time... this is way more natural.
No qhd is just not as good as super amloed its facts.
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psufan5 said:
A lot of you were looking at the oversaturated SAMOLED screens for a long time... this is way more natural.
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But the color does not feel as good as my laptop screen...
nucentury08 said:
No qhd is just not as good as super amloed its facts.
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Qhd is not a screen technology, its a resolution.
And the problem with the colors isn't that they're dull or unsaturated compared to a super amoled., that's to be expexted. The problem is that the colors are just wrong compared to just about any screen you want to compare it too, load up some websites on the phone and a well calibrated desktop monitor and you'll easily see the difference.
Compared to my captivate im really happy. That thing made skin tones green or orange.
It has to be reiterated. The oled display technology OVERsaturates the colors. As in, the colors are overly vibrant. The atrix will more accurately display colors.
Ok, saying this again. We (at least I) am not saying this in comparison to a samoled screen, the colors on a regular LCD will obviously never look like that, the colors on the amoled are completely wrong. However that doesn't mean the atrix has them right, just look at the screen compared to a well calibrated computer monitor.
edgeicator said:
It has to be reiterated. The oled display technology OVERsaturates the colors. As in, the colors are overly vibrant. The atrix will more accurately display colors.
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The problem is that the LCD on Atrix 4G is not accurate compare to other LCD screens...
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The problem is that the LCD on Atrix 4G is not accurate compare to other LCD screens...
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Bumping this to get some attention on this issue.
I'm considering returning my Atrix because of how bad yellows and blues look, compared to OTHER LCDs, not compared to Super AMOLED screens.
I lined up my Captivate, Atrix, iPod Touch 4, and my wife's HTC Evo Shift and fired up Words with Friends on all of them. While it's clear that the Captivate is oversaturated, if you take that out of the equation, the Atrix's colors just look bad compared to the other two LCDs. The yellow tiles look "dirty" like they have a brown or greenish tint to them. The light blues in the tabs on the home screen of Words with Friends look like they have a greenish tint as well.
I've seen a lot of people say that they think it's one of the greatest displays ever, up there on par with the iPhone 4. If that's true, I really hope mine and other people seeing this just have defective models that can be exchanged.
I'm going into my AT&T store sometime tonight or tomorrow in hopes of putting two or more Atrices side by side to compare.
If anyone else seeing this problem could do the same, it would be very helpful. Especially as it seems likely that a random one pulled out in store could have the same defect.
Scott, I have my atrix boxed up ready to go back for the same issues. I went to the at&t store and looked at their 3 demo units, all of them looked the same.
If you go to a verizon store and play with a motorola droid x you'll see that its screen looks the same as well, it's just whatever panel maker motorola is using. People that are saying "It's the greatest screen evar, just as good as the iphone 4" are suffering new gadget love and can't see the flaws. It's not the worst screen ever but it is a definite step down from other manufacturers screens.
mjgunn said:
Scott, I have my atrix boxed up ready to go back for the same issues. I went to the at&t store and looked at their 3 demo units, all of them looked the same.
The screens also look just like the motorola droid x's screen, so it's just whatever panel maker motorola is using. People that are saying "It's the greatest screen evar, just as good as the iphone 4" are suffering new gadget love and can't see the flaws. It's not the worst screen ever but it is a definite step down from other manufacturers screens.
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Thanks for the reply, mjgunn, as sad as it makes me
Just compared it to my iPhone 4 - yellow is way way way off. Can they even fix that? iPhone 4 seems to have the best screen by a long shot...
psufan5 said:
Just compared it to my iPhone 4 - yellow is way way way off. Can they even fix that? iPhone 4 seems to have the best screen by a long shot...
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I would have to agree, the iphone4 has a pretty good display. It is a bit oversaturated, but does look pleasing to the eye. The iphone is also much smoother when using the pinch to zoom feature. With the Atrix having a dual core processor, I thought it would at least be on par with the iphone, but for some reason it's definitely not as smooth.
Oh well... just my 2 cents.
So I went in to an AT&T store last night and compared my Atrix with their demo unit.
The colors seem a little bit better, but interestingly, the demo unit's display didn't seem as bright as my Atrix, and it may have had slightly higher contrast.
I got one of the associates to look at it and agree that mine had a slight color cast to it. They said they would do a replacement for me if I came back with my paperwork from my online order, so I said I would do that today or Saturday.
I went straight home and compared my Atrix again to my wife's HTC Evo Shift. In doing that, I still felt like the color on her screen was significantly better than on mine, and in seemed better than I remembered the store's demo unit, as well.
So, I think I need to get my phone and her phone both in there, side by side with the demo unit, and see if I could live with the screen if it was exactly the same as the demo unit. I think probably yes, given the other major advantages of this phone (qHD resolution, Tegra 2, 1GB RAM), but as a graphic designer, bad colors are hard for me to take. And colors that are off in the way the Atrix's screen is off are a graver sin to me than oversaturating a la Super AMOLED.
Bottom line, I'm still on the fence. Has anyone else done any other tests?
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I would have to agree, the iphone4 has a pretty good display. It is a bit oversaturated, but does look pleasing to the eye.
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Wait, so now the iPhone's IPS LCD is oversaturated too? Let's face it: Atrix is weak on colors -thanks to the RGBW PenTile display, where they tried to prolong its life by replacing some Blue tiles with White tiles -which makes colors pale.
It does look great with flesh tones though. Ill give it that.
People who complain about wrong colors have been looking at way oversaturated screens... as a semi advanced photographer, I can agree that the atrix screen is very very good color wise ...
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People who complain about wrong colors have been looking at way oversaturated screens... as a semi advanced photographer, I can agree that the atrix screen is very very good color wise ...
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Or they got an Atrix with a defective display, like me. Ony my Atrix, there's no getting around the fact that yellows look dirty and brown, and that certain shades of blue look greenish.

Is my screen f***k up?????

Sup guys. I just wanna know if this is a problem or wat.
Ok here I have 2 3d, and 1 of them the colors on the screen are different from the other, for example. The white in one is really white and in the other is kind of cream, and white but not as white like the other
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Do they both have screen protectors
If so are they the same brand?
Are you looking at the phone from the same angle?
Try closing one eye and looking at both
your eyes might be playing tricks on you
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Are the brightness levels the same?
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el_chamuco said:
Sup guys. I just wanna know if this is a problem or wat.
Ok here I have 2 3d, and 1 of them the colors on the screen are different from the other, for example. The white in one is really white and in the other is kind of cream, and white but not as white like the other
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There is a theory (don't think anyone's confirmed it yet) that there are two different types of screens being used for the Evo 3d's...similar to how it was with the Evo 4g, which had some Novatek LCD screens, and some had Epson LCD screens. There was a clear difference in the colors of the two screens. I suspect that the same thing is going on here. Mine has the 'creamy white' style white, while the display model in the Sprint store has a FAR brighter white. It has nothing to do with the brightness of the screen or screen protectors IMO, and there is a clear difference between the two. I suspect in the future we will learn that there are in fact more than one type of SLCD screen being used, for whatever reason (in the case of the OG Evo 4g, it was a shortage of a supply on one brand, so HTC started using a different manufacturer of the screens, resulting in the difference in colors)
I just returned one of these yellowish tinted phones. Some say it's a SLCD effect but I find that hard to believe when I'm looking @ my new one with great whites and vivid colors that pop. I have a a feeling HTC is using 2 different panel makers just like they did with the OG EvO. Nova panels had better whites and cooler colors and Epson panels had a warmer color temp. And they also looked washed out to me.
Maybe those running temp root can run terminal to find out what kind of screens they have. I would bet anything it's 2 different manufacturers.
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There is a theory (don't think anyone's confirmed it yet) that there are two different types of screens being used for the Evo 3d's...similar to how it was with the Evo 4g, which had some Novatek LCD screens, and some had Epson LCD screens. There was a clear difference in the colors of the two screens. I suspect that the same thing is going on here. Mine has the 'creamy white' style white, while the display model in the Sprint store has a FAR brighter white. It has nothing to do with the brightness of the screen or screen protectors IMO, and there is a clear difference between the two. I suspect in the future we will learn that there are in fact more than one type of SLCD screen being used, for whatever reason (in the case of the OG Evo 4g, it was a shortage of a supply on one brand, so HTC started using a different manufacturer of the screens, resulting in the difference in colors)
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Same thing with the Sensation. There are two manufacturers of the screen, one being Sharp the other being AUO. You can check which panel you have by going into terminal emulator and typing in "dmesg". The scroll down and find panel type.
On my device:
Panel Type = Panel_ID_SHR_SHARP_NT
jlevy73 said:
Same thing with the Sensation. There are two manufacturers of the screen, one being Sharp the other being AUO. You can check which panel you have by going into terminal emulator and typing in "dmesg". The scroll down and find panel type.
On my device:
Panel Type = Panel_ID_SHR_SHARP_NT
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Thank you sir, I forgot the command to check that. I had checked it on my Evo 4g one time long ago. I have the same type as you do. Panel Type = Panel_ID_SHR_SHARP_NT
What other ones are floating around out there? Start checking, I'm curious to know. With the OG Evo the Nova panels only supported 2 or 3 point multi touch (don't recall) where the Epson panels supported 4 or 5 point multi touch (don't remember) I wonder if anything similar exists here, if it is confirmed that there are more than one type of screen out there, which I definitely believe there are.
I'm glad this thread is here finally. I noticed this too. When I got my phone, the screen seemed to have a yellowish/cream tint which was especially noticable with white backgrounds. I then compared it to several other 3d phones at best buy and a sprint store, all set at max brightness and all at the same wrbsite(google.com). There is definitely 2 set of screens. One has a much whiter background capability. I think I am going to exchange mine. Seeing both my screen and the other screen type side by side, it was pretty clear the other screen had a truer color representation.
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k2buckley said:
Thank you sir, I forgot the command to check that. I had checked it on my Evo 4g one time long ago. I have the same type as you do. Panel Type = Panel_ID_SHR_SHARP_NT
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I have the same panel on my screen with the off whites.
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well i guest the answer is yes your screen is f**ck up
Panel Type = Panel_ID_SHR_SHARP_NT
Off whites/warm tone...I actually like it more than the Bright Whites that looked to high in contrast/fake looking from my OG Evo Nova panel.
How can i find which one do i have
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Pretty sure on the Evo 3D HTC is only using one panel supplier, because Sharp is the only one producing the parallax barrier screens in any large quantities. The 3DS uses the same Sharp-manufactured screen in a different size, and I'd stake a bet that the Optimus 3D is using a Sharp panel as well.
jlevy73 said:
Same thing with the Sensation. There are two manufacturers of the screen, one being Sharp the other being AUO. You can check which panel you have by going into terminal emulator and typing in "dmesg". The scroll down and find panel type.
On my device:
Panel Type = Panel_ID_SHR_SHARP_NT
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Mine says that also
<6>[1117644.639688] Panel Type = PANEL_ID_SHR_SHARP_NT
Sharp here also, my whites seem pretty white, no complaints here.
Dmesg says I've got a Sharp screen as well, and my whites are definitely white.
iliapiano said:
How can i find which one do i have
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Download terminal emulator from the market. Open it and type 'dmesg'. Scroll down until you see panel type.
Zak Jones! said:
Dmesg says I've got a Sharp screen as well, and my whites are definitely white.
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Interesting. Did it list the same numbers as the other ones listed? If they are all the exact same screen and the numbers match up, then maybe there is a problem with some of them. Mine is definitely the creamy white, and I've seen others with the bright white, and the difference is very noticeable. I would've bet that it was two different screens...or at least different part numbers. I don't see how the same screen could have such a vast difference in color.
I'm gonna go down to my local Sprint store and check this out myself. I've had 2 of them and haven't noticed any difference yet. Makes me feel like I'm missing something. I'd hate to want to exchange my Evo3d when I like it so much as it is now. (which means I probably wont anyway)
there are 2 different screens..
1st one i owned looked great.. bright whites..
screen panel novatec/sharp ...
2nd one is only a sharp... it appears the SHARP only screens do not have the bright whites.
3rd one also sharp..
waiting for 4th to come in..

[Q] A Different Type Of Screen Issue

I've posted this question on other forums before, but never really gotten a good answer and I can't find anyone having the same issue anywhere. Has anyone noticed how there is very noticeable grid under the screen in certain lighting conditions? It's mostly in natural sunlight (doesn't even need to be real bright out) and when the screen is off, which doesn't really bother me. However, I've noticed that even with the screen on in certain sunlight, it can be fairly noticeable. I'm assuming this is the "capacitive grid", but I've never used a touchscreen device where it was so obvious. The grid is comprised of squares approximately 3/16" x 3/16" with small linear channels in between. Has anyone else noticed this? Maybe I'm just being picky, but it really bothers me when the screen is on and I can still see it, as it somewhat hinders view of the screen. I'd take a picture, but I couldn't get any to turn out. I just can't believe no one has brought this up before in all my searching, as it seems like something us phone fanatics would like to complain about. Just wanted to see if other phones exhibited the same issue or if it could be quality control related. Thanks.
I've seen it. Its a pentile screen. I thought that was normal. But I only notice it when in direct sunlight I tilt the screen to a particular angle.
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I've seen what you're talking about on my older palm pre 1 on sprint.
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This is normal. It is just the way the screens are made I guess. I had noticed the same thing with my old htc inspire.
This shouldn't worry or bother you
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its the touch sensor, every phone is different. the droid incredible had dots in a grid pattern.
Well thanks for all the responses, guess it's just how the phone is made. I'm just surprised I've never noticed it on the other touchscreen devices I've used. Maybe it is a pentile thing.
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its the touch sensor, every phone is different. the droid incredible had dots in a grid pattern.
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Had the Incredible also, very noticeable in sunlight, mostly with screen off. I barely notice on the X2 in sun when phone is on and i'm doing anything. As said its a capacitive screen thing (not just for pentile as one person mentioned, pentile is mostly just ar tech for coloring pixels.) You'll notice it or something similar on all or most capacitive devices. I kinda miss my resistive inputs :/ Accurate, snappy, but lacking multitouch. Sadly the biggest draw of capacitive is multi-touch, but nobody supports more than dual touch anymore (another reason i miss the incredible, could get 10 inputs on that beast... still 2 on most other phones... good for games/emulators)
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Had the Incredible also, very noticeable in sunlight, mostly with screen off. I barely notice on the X2 in sun when phone is on and i'm doing anything. As said its a capacitive screen thing (not just for pentile as one person mentioned, pentile is mostly just ar tech for coloring pixels.) You'll notice it or something similar on all or most capacitive devices. I kinda miss my resistive inputs :/ Accurate, snappy, but lacking multitouch. Sadly the biggest draw of capacitive is multi-touch, but nobody supports more than dual touch anymore (another reason i miss the incredible, could get 10 inputs on that beast... still 2 on most other phones... good for games/emulators)
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Most common apps dont require more than 2 finger gesture ie google maps. Nice to have but not many things support or have a need for more than 2, so it's not worthwhile to have it right out of the box.
Incredible 2 Screen Is APerfect Size
I'm coming from the fascinate, with a 4" screen as well, and I like the little extra size of this screen. Just personal preference though. It does seem that this one is more visible in direct sun which surprised me.
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The screen!

Is awesome!!! Never had an HD screen before and boy is it cool! I try to look very close, but can barely see the pixels. The colors are also very amazing.
Now the question is can we use a app like voodoo screen tuner and make it even better =p lol
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Did it come with the cool sample HD video that shows off the screen like the Intl. has?
As much as I love the high resolution--it is AMAZING for small text--I am more bothered by the PenTile layout than I expected from reviews. I don't know about other people or how close they hold the phone to their eyes, but I can see the hatching pretty clearly in normal use on a white background. I mean, it's not HORRIBLE, but it makes the whites feel a lot less white than they do on the RGB AMOLED screens I've used. I think I need a Tab 7.7 so I can have the resolution without the PenTile tradeoffs. -_-
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As much as I love the high resolution--it is AMAZING for small text--I am more bothered by the PenTile layout than I expected from reviews. I don't know about other people or how close they hold the phone to their eyes, but I can see the hatching pretty clearly in normal use on a white background. I mean, it's not HORRIBLE, but it makes the whites feel a lot less white than they do on the RGB AMOLED screens I've used. I think I need a Tab 7.7 so I can have the resolution without the PenTile tradeoffs. -_-
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I read a review, can't remember which one, that was saying at full brightness the whites were incredibly white and at lower brightness settings it turned bluer. Is that true? Are you at full brightness?
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As much as I love the high resolution--it is AMAZING for small text--I am more bothered by the PenTile layout than I expected from reviews. I don't know about other people or how close they hold the phone to their eyes, but I can see the hatching pretty clearly in normal use on a white background. I mean, it's not HORRIBLE, but it makes the whites feel a lot less white than they do on the RGB AMOLED screens I've used. I think I need a Tab 7.7 so I can have the resolution without the PenTile tradeoffs. -_-
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What do you mean by hatching?
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I read a review, can't remember which one, that was saying at full brightness the whites were incredibly white and at lower brightness settings it turned bluer. Is that true? Are you at full brightness?
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It's not a matter of color reproduction; it's the physical subpixels that look a bit off. It's a subtle diagonal hatching pattern that is visible regardless of brightness. It's not horribly obvious at normal distances but I can see it. Honestly it isn't that much worse than being able to see the square pattern around individual pixels on my GS2--I was just hoping at this resolution/pixel density I wouldn't be able to see it at all.
Color reproduction isn't too bad. It's slightly different from my GS2 but I am not that picky about it, since I don't do serious photography or other art. AMOLED screens all have oversaturated colors anyway.
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What do you mean by hatching?
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It's sort of like there is an overlay of tiny black dots in a diagonal pattern. As I mention above it isn't obvious especially at more than a foot or so away, but it is visible.
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As much as I love the high resolution--it is AMAZING for small text--I am more bothered by the PenTile layout than I expected from reviews. I don't know about other people or how close they hold the phone to their eyes, but I can see the hatching pretty clearly in normal use on a white background. I mean, it's not HORRIBLE, but it makes the whites feel a lot less white than they do on the RGB AMOLED screens I've used. I think I need a Tab 7.7 so I can have the resolution without the PenTile tradeoffs. -_-
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The screen looks fine to me. People freak out when they find out a screen is Pentile, but this isn't a Motorola pentile screen we're looking at. I'm assuming that there's a technical limitation/challenge with making Super Amoled Plus displays bigger than 4.3" or I'm sure Sammy would be using them in all of their phones. Personally, I'm enjoying the higher resolution. Can you imagine a screen this size at 800X480? It would be worse than the HTC Titan.
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The screen looks fine to me. People freak out when they find out a screen is Pentile, but this isn't a Motorola pentile screen we're looking at. I'm assuming that there's a technical limitation/challenge with making Super Amoled Plus displays bigger than 4.3" or I'm sure Sammy would be using them in all of their phones. Personally, I'm enjoying the higher resolution. Can you imagine a screen this size at 800X480? It would be worse than the HTC Titan.
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I hope it doesn't seem like I'm freaking out.
I'm saying this having used the phone a bit; I have it sitting right here. No argument here, it is way better than the PenTile on the RAZR or any other Moto phone I've used. And yes, I'm pretty sure you're right about the technical limitations preventing proper RGB layouts for this resolution/size, probably something to do with how small they can physically make subpixels, since it is clearly possible to have a 1280x800 Super AMOLED+ display in a 7.7" form factor. I ALSO agree that a screen this large would be awful at 800x480, and I definitely prefer the PenTile 1280x800 over RGB 800x480 at this size. I am definitely NOT saying the screen is bad, but I am disappointed because it isn't as good as I hoped it would be.
So we mostly agree. I am just more irritable I guess.
Willanhanyard said:
Is awesome!!! Never had an HD screen before and boy is it cool! I try to look very close, but can barely see the pixels. The colors are also very amazing.
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I had a Skyrocket before this and the difference is stunning. My wife has an ip4s and says she can't stop staring at it over my shoulder because it looks so good.
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The Note suffers when playing dark backgrounds in videos. I hope supercurio will release his fix soon. Also any ATT Note users finding black splotches on their screen when enabling a completely black background and in a dark room, look closely. Tell me!
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The Note suffers when playing dark backgrounds in videos. I hope supercurio will release his fix soon. Also any ATT Note users finding black splotches on their screen when enabling a completely black background and in a dark room, look closely. Tell me!
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Yes watching netflix in the dark with dark scenes looks terrible. So is there a fix for this?
Just tried looking at my iPhone 4 and it looks like all the color has been sucked out....this really is a great screen!
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Yes watching netflix in the dark with dark scenes looks terrible. So is there a fix for this?
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On International Notes it's been reported that ICS fixes this, if you could flash an ICS build then you're good to go, but until then wait for Supercurio's fix.
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On International Notes it's been reported that ICS fixes this, if you could flash an ICS build then you're good to go, but until then wait for Supercurio's fix.
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Where is the post that says ICS fixed this?
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How does the screen work in direct sunlight? I am not wanting to watch a movie, but need it when working outside to read e-mail and use the phone. On my current HTC Tilt 2 I have to find shade to see anything on my screen. I have read that the Super Amoled+ screens are better. I am hoping this will work where I do not have to put on my reading glasses.
One thing is for sure, the screen definitely is an attention grabber. All of my co-workers were amazed and how sharp and clear the screen was.
This screen definitely suffers with some flash videos and dark backgrounds. I can see like lines flashing, doesnt look good at all and thats a turn off because I wanted to watch alot of videos on this. You guys can try it out and see if you see what I see. Go to veetle.com, scrolling down to any movies channel and select it, and make it full screen.....
Skyrocket does it too
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This screen definitely suffers with some flash videos and dark backgrounds. I can see like lines flashing, doesnt look good at all and thats a turn off because I wanted to watch alot of videos on this. You guys can try it out and see if you see what I see. Go to veetle.com, scrolling down to any movies channel and select it, and make it full screen.....
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The screen is beautiful period. Better than my infuse or skyrocket.
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[Q] Is the Pentile screen noticeable on the Galaxy S III?

I'm thinking about buying the Galaxy S III, but the Pentile screen is really holding me back. I mean, why buy a device with a screen that looks bad and has to be looked at for several hours a week?
I've heard that at high resolution, Pentile screens don't matter. But I want some opinions from all you people out there.
And what would you expect to see looking at a poor quality entitle screen?
My s3 is probably the clearest looking screen I've looked upon
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I've read some of the older device reviews on tech websites and whenever the device had a Pentile screen, the review always criticized it.
I'll trust Samsung on this, since there pretty good at making screens.
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I've read some of the older device reviews on tech websites and whenever the device had a Pentile screen, the review always criticized it.
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Older AMOLED Pentile Display were bad because they have a low ppi (240ppi on the SGS1)
But SGS3 screen has a 306ppi and the "pentile effect" seems to be not there (at least I do not see it on my SGS3
Mopral said:
Older AMOLED Pentile Display were bad because they have a low ppi (240ppi on the SGS1)
But SGS3 screen has a 306ppi and the "pentile effect" seems to be not there (at least I do not see it on my SGS3
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No matter what? Even if you're holding it like a inch away from your phone? I usually use my iPod touch (I have a Blackberry phone, it sucks for web browsing) when in the mornings when I don't feel like getting out of my bed. I usually hold it just 6 inches away from my eyes.
My S3 has to be the clearest screen I have ever seen. Had it for a few days now and still doesn't fail to amaze me whenever I turn the screen on.
You don't have to worry about holding it 6 inches or even 2 inches away from your face.
Its really beautiful...much better then my Nexus...
The best way to solve your problem is to go the nearest store and have a look at the demo unit. Don't believe what you hear or read, believe what you see.
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Arsaw said:
The best way to solve your problem is to go the nearest store and have a look at the demo unit. Don't believe what you hear or read, believe what you see.
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This.
HaruSoul said:
This.
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I live in a semi-rural area. The closest store to me is a over a hour's drive away. My schedule for the next couple weeks is packed, I will not have enough time to go over to the closest store and look at the phones.
WiFi_N said:
I'm thinking about buying the Galaxy S III, but the Pentile screen is really holding me back. I mean, why buy a device with a screen that looks bad and has to be looked at for several hours a week?
I've heard that at high resolution, Pentile screens don't matter. But I want some opinions from all you people out there.
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I saw the Motorola Droid Razr before I knew what pentile was and I thought it looked weird and pixellated so it's certainely not placebo. At the ppi of the GS3 it doesn't matter imo. I do still notice it (but not like I can count the pixels.. but it just is a little bit different then normal rgb screens) but the screen is still somehow the best I've seen in a phone.
You shouldn't keep yourself from buying it because of this as it not even really noticable, it's the best screen there is imo and it even spares some battery.
I can notice the pentile effect if I stare hard at the screen from less than 10cm away. I've compared my S3 to the HOX and the HOX does indeed has a finer screen. But still the S3 has one amazing screen. The blacks are much better although the colours seems a little over saturated and slightly on the warm side.
WiFi_N said:
I live in a semi-rural area. The closest store to me is a over a hour's drive away. My schedule for the next couple weeks is packed, I will not have enough time to go over to the closest store and look at the phones.
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Well then I guess you have two options 1.) Wait two weeks and then go look at the phone 2.) Go with a different phone.
The only time I notice the pentile screen is whilst reading some text. It is barely recognisable but if and when you notice it you'll subconsciously start to look out for it. But it is very minor indeed, and changing the font of text helps to more or less eradicate it.
Aside from that minor quibble re text I have to say that this screen is absolutely awesome. Colours and contrast are absolutely amazing. I tend to set the screen mode to Natural as I think this gives the best colour effect.
I know this screen is awesome because when I switch from it to my iPad 3's retina screen I don't feel any degradation, if anything pictures and videos look better on it than on the iPad 3 - and that's saying something!
Does this screen have the same issues as the Galaxy Nexus screen? Purple tint at low bright setting and whites looking like old yellow newspaper?
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NardVa said:
Does this screen have the same issues as the Galaxy Nexus screen? Purple tint at low bright setting and whites looking like old yellow newspaper?
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I didn't own the G Nexus, but there is no purple tint at low brightness. My S2 had a slight yet noticeable yellowing at low brightness - this does not
Yes, if you will use the phone under a magnifying glass
"Super Amoled Plus" will never work with High Resolution. They are not designed for that.
Move up dude
I my opinion It is noticeable, but only at ~3" away and I do have 20/20 vision but in any other situation It's fine, I have even fooled a few friends who own an s2 that it was a 'plus' display but as above you are best going to have a look
Its noticeable, coming from an Xperia S (which I gave to my wife for this phone) and having a G Note which died before the Xperia S, its the same for me as the G Note.
It's mainly around fonts and small icons which is more noticeable, definitely not in pictures unless you have super vision, but most of the time you're looking at fonts or small icons, so yes its there.
But FWIW I wouldn't trade it for the contrast, I've never owned a phone with such contrast (actually the Note was the same), but having said that in sunlight forget using this phone, side by side in sunlight with the Xperia S, the Sony wins hands down.

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