[Q] General Q about ROM Stability. - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can you all be BLUNTLY honest with me and answer my question? : Are the ROMS the DEV teams are releasing actually STABLE daily drivers? I used to be a CrackFlasher back when I had a MT4G and it was very addicting, however I had stable internet and resources so I could easily fix problems and so I never had a big problem if there were minor issues with ROMs. I am now in a situation where I depend on my phone for my internet, for the most part...basically I am just paranoid because many people have TB's where they randomly restart and the battery dies right away etc etc... I haven't experienced any of these problems with MY TB, so I don't want to flash into a new ROM if they aren't stable enough yet. Anyways, any input would be much appreciated. Thank you.

Jaskwith said:
Can you all be BLUNTLY honest with me and answer my question? : Are the ROMS the DEV teams are releasing actually STABLE daily drivers? I used to be a CrackFlasher back when I had a MT4G and it was very addicting, however I had stable internet and resources so I could easily fix problems and so I never had a big problem if there were minor issues with ROMs. I am now in a situation where I depend on my phone for my internet, for the most part...basically I am just paranoid because many people have TB's where they randomly restart and the battery dies right away etc etc... I haven't experienced any of these problems with MY TB, so I don't want to flash into a new ROM if they aren't stable enough yet. Anyways, any input would be much appreciated. Thank you.
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Generally they are very stable. BAMF Forever has proven bulletproof for me.

I keep hearing good things about bamf I think that will be the first rom I try.
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Generally they are very stable. BAMF Forever has proven bulletproof for me.
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I use SkyRaider on my TBolt as well as my wife's. Haven't had any issues whatsoever. It's Gingerbread-based and Sense 2.1 with some Sense 3.0 bits included.
Personally, I think when ROMs are 'pushed' too far, i.e. Sense 3.5, you're taking a chance. Right off the bat, it's likely to be a touchy situation. Does that mean that it will be resolved and work well ? It could.

Another confirmation of the daily stability of SkyRaider Zeus Preview on the Thunderbolt.
It has provided vastly better utility and stability than the OTA releases from VZW/HTC.

may I ask what these new Roms are doing for you that the stock rom didnt? seems like the biggest problems of the TB, I haven't experienced. I just don't want to ttake a good thing aand compromise it if it isn't worth it. what other advantages are there of these new roms?
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Hehe, well, I really can't answer that one ! My phone was waiting for me when I got home from work between 5:30 and 6:00. By 8pm, it was rooted and then running SR. My experience with stock is minimal.
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Me and my lady both run custom liquid roms....
My name is Revos I'm a recovering flashaholic running Liquid Gingerbread 3.0

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[Q] Need specific ROM advice (help me pick)

Which ROM should meet these requirements:
1. Will get a GPS fix quickly every time.
2. Good battery life.
3. Fast 4G LTE.
4. Market works fully.
5. Relatively bug free.
6. Still supported by developer.
7. Has decent install instructions - I have not installed a ROM on the Thunderbolt yet, and compared to my OGD, it seems more complex (e.g., flash a radio separately).
8. As little Sense as possible. (None would be ideal.)
9. USB tethering is rock solid reliable.
10. Gingerbread 2.3.4 (so Google Talk video works)
I initially wanted an AOSP ROM, but it seems like Sense-based ROM are working better. Is this true?
I just rooted and I want to install a custom ROM right now. Waiting impatiently for responses. hehe
Omfgb?
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Omfgb?
Sent from my TBolt using my f***king thumbs...
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It says, "An work in progress to bring working 4G to Gingerbread AOSP. Only available for Froyo MR1 radio."
That doesn't sound good to me... however, I admit that I don't know the details about the radios. I just assumed MR2 or MR2.5 would be an improvement. I'm not very happy with the stock Froyo radio (or GPS or battery life or anything else really).
Th3ory roms have been my favorite since his introduction, everything you're looking for. Try out the tester coming tonight, or wait a day for the release. Rediculous amount of dev support.
Re: usb tethering: i use easytether lite without a hitch.
greenjeans said:
Th3ory roms have been my favorite since his introduction, everything you're looking for. Try out the tester coming tonight, or wait a day for the release. Rediculous amount of dev support.
Re: usb tethering: i use easytether lite without a hitch.
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Thank you. I've been reading a lot of different threads and I was getting the impression that Th3ory roms are really good and the support is great.
What about INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01 (SenseLESS)?
Regarding "the tester coming tonight" are you talking about this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186218
I was concerned about the market problems discussed in that thread. I know there are two different resolutions for market problems, but I got the feeling that this tester ROM is too bleeding edge for my first Thunderbolt ROM.
In reference to my list of important features in the OP, what advantages does the tester ROM have over INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01?
I'll go ahead and put in my 2 cents and suggest CM7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049542
Be sure that you flash the MR2 OTA radio and you'll be fine and dandy.
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I'll go ahead and put in my 2 cents and suggest CM7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049542
Be sure that you flash the MR2 OTA radio and you'll be fine and dandy.
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So if I flash the MR2 radio, I don't have to worry about the CM7 4G problems mentioned in various places such as this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057757
EDIT: ooops, the known issues listed rule this ROM out for me:
**Known Issues**
-Possible Data/Voice bugs and issues.
-gps slow to get locks
Looks like INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01 is still the favorite.
I just installed INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01.
It is sync'ing at the moment. I haven't really used it yet, except to go through the steps to add my google account, etc.
MountainX said:
So if I flash the MR2 radio, I don't have to worry about the CM7 4G problems mentioned in various places such as this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057757
EDIT: ooops, the known issues listed rule this ROM out for me:
**Known Issues**
-Possible Data/Voice bugs and issues.
-gps slow to get locks
Looks like INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01 is still the favorite.
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That thread is 3 months ago dated. Current release, RC 1.4, has none of those problems.
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That thread is 3 months ago dated. Current release, RC 1.4, has known of those problems.
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you mean it has none of those problems?
I already flashed INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01, so we'll see how that goes. If it doesn't work out for me, I am interested in either das BAMF or CM 7.1.
haha yes! sorry for the typo. i'd suggest going ahead and flashing those other 2 ROMs when you get the chance to whether you like injectedtheory or not. one might suit your preferences more than another.
I was just making fun of threads like this in another post.
I've read these threads, tried most of them people swear by, didn't like most of them... And I'm back to my daily driver as usual. Every ROM has it's quirks. It's just a matter of what you're going to tolerate. Frankly, I don't know how people stand AOSP. My girlfriend loves it and I hate even touching that phone now. I've got this sexy 3D ROM that flows like water and it's literally 4.5 times the size. I'm just saying that if I posted this exact same thread, I'd find every single answer pretty much useless. Whatever you do, don't do a nightly.
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I was just making fun of threads like this in another post.
I've read these threads, tried most of them people swear by, didn't like most of them... And I'm back to my daily driver as usual. Every ROM has it's quirks. It's just a matter of what you're going to tolerate. Frankly, I don't know how people stand AOSP. My girlfriend loves it and I hate even touching that phone now. I've got this sexy 3D ROM that flows like water and it's literally 4.5 times the size. I'm just saying that if I posted this exact same thread, I'd find every single answer pretty much useless. Whatever you do, don't do a nightly.
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The answers were not useless at all. The conversation helped me. But you notice that I didn't just ask a generic question. In the OP listed specific features that were important to me.
BTW, I only like ASOP ROMS as a rule, but I learned from this forum that Sense-based ROMs give less trouble on the Thunderbolt. If that wasn't true I would have stuck totally to ASOP.
Inject is great, and I do believe satisfies all of your bullets, except for dev support.
The only issue I had with th3ory's tester10 was purchasing market apps. Flashing tester 37 in a minute...
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Inject is great, and I do believe satisfies all of your bullets, except for dev support.
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Thanks for that feedback. It was one of the first ROMs I looked at and I initially rejected it because Th3ory had moved on the the tester ROM and I do value active dev support.
But the potential market issues with tester10 concerned me more. So I came back to Inject. It's nice to hear your confirmation that it will probably satisfy most of my bullet points.
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The only issue I had with th3ory's tester10 was purchasing market apps. Flashing tester 37 in a minute...
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I'm going to keep following the tester thread. Now that I have installed my first Thunderbolt ROM, next time I might be ready for something a bit more challenging (but I still want a stable ROM I can use for all my daily needs).
Thanks again.

Best of both worlds?

I have been a flash addict and still cant find what I like. Is there a rom that gives the speed, fluidity and battery life of asop with the beauty and widget function of sense 3.0?
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http://rootzwiki.com/forumdisplay.php?f=11
There may be some here you haven't tried... I use Skyraider Zeus and I feel it's the best one out.
Good luck, I'm in the exact same boat.
I love how fluid and fast with excellent battery life I get with the Th3ory or Hacker CM7/AOSP based ROMs...but I've spent a bit of time getting "Sense like" widgets and look.
I've recently (Again) turned to BAMF for their uber ROM. 2.5 broke Wifi, 3.0 preview is sailing along flawlessly.
If someone could package a Sense 3.0 type email, MMS and clock/weather widget (that syncs with the city you're int) I'd be in hog heaven and never lease AOSP.
But, I use my phone for work primarily, which means corporate exchange email.
I feel Sense 3.0 handles that best.
wow...had no idea there were so many TB ROMs out there...If you want smooth and stable GB...have you tried the Synergy nightlies? Been running for some time as daily drivers.
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wow...had no idea there were so many TB ROMs out there...If you want smooth and stable GB...have you tried the Synergy nightlies? Been running for some time as daily drivers.
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I think you're the first to say there's a lot of ROMs. Usually the rant certain people keep saying is that there isn't enough and our phone has no development
Good to hear someone say the opposite for once.
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I think you're the first to say there's a lot of ROMs. Usually the rant certain people keep saying is that there isn't enough and our phone has no development
Good to hear someone say the opposite for once.
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Yeah... No doubt! I don't know where some folks are coming from, but most devices don't have the variety this thing does.
I am trying the uber bamf. Seems real smooth but still lacking on battery
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+1 on skyraider zeus preview 2.
I agree that skyraider is a truly nice ROM, but if you want all the widgets your battery will suffer.
Honestly look in to the new ROMs based off of the 2.10.605.1 leak. Battery life on these is amazing.
Not much can help a phone with a heavy user, again your battery will suffer here thanks to the super bright higher resolution screen. The screen will eat up your battery no matter what rom you run.
I think skyraider may be based off of one of the latest leaks if I remember right, which is why the battery is so good with it. It uses the HTC Kernels as well.
+1 for the synergy nightlies, there not aosp but you can freeze what you dont want. ive been running them since they started and i can get 24 hours battery life easy on 4g, and its THE fastest rom ive ever used.

[Q] Synergy vs. viperROM

I realize there is already a thread about this same thing but..
I'm wondering as Synergy seems to be faster while viperROM has things like Viper control script..
I don't worry about battery life so that is not an issue, tell me your experiences with each rom, which would you recommend?
this will not end well these type of threads never do on xda ...
i use synergy myself i like the constant updates and svn where i can download a build i want and not have to wait for a official release and i enjoy helping to test in some degree
CheesyNutz said:
this will not end well these type of threads never do on xda ...
i use synergy myself i like the constant updates and svn where i can download a build i want and not have to wait for a official release and i enjoy helping to test in some degree
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I liked it before the troll era where people didn't do everything they could to argue with you..
Thanks for some feedback.
They seem about equal but Synergy has much more active (or at least seems like it) devs on their team as they've already pushed through 2.3.4 and are actively working out the bugs and adding the features that were ironed out in 2.3.3.
Viper seemed to have very good battery life and that was about all i was able to see with it; i'm able to get over 24hrs battery life with synergy though after these latest builds.
If you're not worried about the extras that you can do with viperROM like their additional mods and such i would definitely say Synergy is the choice.
I don't know man. I flashed synergy last night and a bunch of things were outdated on it. For example market, google maps, youtube, etc. google talk would crash on launch. my favorite thing about the rom was the dope boot splash screen
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I was a big fan of Synergy Nightly for the 4G and i love it for the 3D, i used both roms and both are great in my opinion. I think its more of a matter of choice then anything.
i love viper rom but u know that already but the lack of updates is making me want to switch to synergy because they seem to be on top of things.and yes i know viper has a life and its nothing against him i just like to be up to date all the time.
I'm leaning more toward Synergy now.
I flashed Synergy about three weeks ago but flashed away to Viper after I found Syn to be less stable than I was willing to accept for a daily driver. Viper has been more stable for me than stock ever was, rooted or otherwise.
For the time being, Viper has had my vote because of the OCDaemon script included. I went from charging my battery twice a day to going two days between charges. Now that Synergy has the script, I will probably give it a try again in a couple days.
Yea vipers is really rock stable so I don't mind neither is it unexpected to me that the process is a little time consuming. If I'm going to have a shiny new toy, I can't have it be crashing and freezing up on me when I'm trying to show it off to friends
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Which is better in terms of performance and speed?
ZachPA said:
I'm leaning more toward Synergy now.
I flashed Synergy about three weeks ago but flashed away to Viper after I found Syn to be less stable than I was willing to accept for a daily driver. Viper has been more stable for me than stock ever was, rooted or otherwise.
For the time being, Viper has had my vote because of the OCDaemon script included. I went from charging my battery twice a day to going two days between charges. Now that Synergy has the script, I will probably give it a try again in a couple days.
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2 days on a stock battery?
I have used both pretty extensively and I must say that right now I prefer viper. For me, it has been more stable and battery life is better, I do not have a single complaint about the ROM and I don't mind the slow updates because the ROM works so well. I need a ROM that performs better than stock but is just as stable because I don't have time to flash a new ROM everyday nor do I want to deal with unexpected bugs.
Same experience, Viper was more stable and gave me a bump in apps, tweaks and performance over stock. Synergy is young yet and I don't have the time right now to follow forums and offer feedback to the dev community. Keeping an eye on it though.
I liked both myself. The Synergy seemed to be faster but less battery life and the Viper gave me more battery life at reasonable speeds faster then stock.
Pros of the Synergy is all the added features and bells and wistles like more cool ringtones and other small to big stuff. Viper could easily add some of that to the current. With Synergy I also liked icons and layout. BUT THE ABSOLUTE biggest thing is.... I had tons of issues, force close on this and that.. I couldnt even get the Weather via sense to work it was always crashing so was some of the live wallpapers and they removed some features I wanted and got rid of alot of the ones I didnt. Honestly if you took the best of both and made one it would be off the hook.
BUT the winner for now is Viper as its rock solid and stable. Its fast enough and has great battery life.
For me the question is what Kernel worked the best with what rom on your phone???
Have either of these ROMs incorporated the 2.08.651.2 OTA update features?
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Have either of these ROMs incorporated the 2.08.651.2 OTA update features?
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Good question.
clankfu said:
Have either of these ROMs incorporated the 2.08.651.2 OTA update features?
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anyone?
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Great feedback on the roms guys. My 3D is in mission critical mode due to work going balls to the wall and I can't chance any issues popping up, but have always wanted to hear honest feedback on these two roms. Really appreciate the non fanboy real talk
Hopefully when work slows down I can try both of them out.
Tried both, keep going back to Viper. Just seems to be more stable. Lack of updates is OK with me because it is working great as is.
Viper ROM fast stable but on 2.3.3 where synergy is on 2.3.4 and right now source code not released yet so he really can't unlock the code for better speed. I used both and synergy is constantly updating his ROM on a daily basis if your into beta builds... Hope this helps
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Most Stable, Least Quirky ROM now?

Hello all,
I was just wondering what your impressions were re, the most stable ROM out now, the one with the least issues. Is there one that seems to be most hassle-free? I'm not nessasarily looking for a lot of bells and whistles...
Thanks!
Used to enjoy Theory's ROMs but felt that every few weeks he'd discontinue a ROM and release a new one. If you want a sense ROM that has a good following, I'm gonna be taking a look at SynergyROM, or if you want a non-sense ROM (AKA AOSP) I'd go CM7 (CynergyMod 7).
I'm aosp fan personally. I've used Cyanogenmod extensively, as well as Omgb. I'm currently running TheROM V4 and it is rock solid stable and very responsive. Not many bells and whistles. Just vanilla gingerbread.
It depends on what you want aosp or sense
For me I'm an aosp girl I'm running cyanogenmod 7 v1.7 loving it and. Ill give the kernel I'm using for battery life
If I don't want aosp anymore I always go to. http://teambamf.net/
I love das bamf! or if not go to http://themikmik.com/forumdisplay.php?1004-HTC-Thunderbolt-Developer-Forum I personal really like chingy's roms
I don't like Droid theory just saying
If you like sense, I really like Chingy's Gingeritis 3D.
Second vote for Gingeritis 3D. Stable and great battery life if you just use better governors.
Definitely the wrong forum, bro.
been rocking cleantheory to shiftsense for the past two weeks. both have been rock solid. DT is stopping development though, so take it for whatever that means. i think at some point all ROMS eventually lose development. hopefully whatever you choose is good enough for your daily driver if you dont like flashing over and over.
ShiftS3ns3 by DroidTho3ry rocks - give it a shot.
I think I'm going to give Gingeritis 3D a try. I'm not a pro at flashing new ROMs... i've only done it once (running BAMF 1.3 now). Is there anything special I should do? Is it just like flashing the BAMF ROM? (can I do it from ROM Manager?)
Thanks!
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been rocking cleantheory to shiftsense for the past two weeks. both have been rock solid. DT is stopping development though, so take it for whatever that means. i think at some point all ROMS eventually lose development. hopefully whatever you choose is good enough for your daily driver if you dont like flashing over and over.
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DT mentioned that he's taking a break, so hopefully he won't be gone too long. His work is better than stock.. HTC ought to hire him and get out of his way.
If you want Sense ROM, can't go wrong with SkyRaider Preview 2 or ShiftS3NS3.
If you want AOSP based ROM, SHIFTAO5P hasn't given me any problems whatsoever.
If you can live without the 3d, skyraider preview 2 is rock solid.
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FWIW, I have been pretty pleased with the Synergy ROMs and I'd be running one now but...... I was one who fell victim to either the ROM Manager update or the CWM update and now cannot restore any of my backups. I tried various earlier CWMs w/o success and finally un-rooted, installed stock, did the OTA update and I'm back 100% stock.
I mention this because it's relevent to the question..... Battery life is good, the stability is excellent and, once customized to my liking, I really can't see much difference other than the "billions and billions" of crap apps VZW and HTC have added to the phone. If I could get rid of them I'd be just fine with the stock ROM believe it or not!
I'll probably re-root at some point and it's VERY likely I'll go back to the Synergy ROM because it works. I've had rebooting problems with other ROMs I've tried and I'm no longer in a mood to experiment, maybe later?
OK, it's later. I rooted, using Revolutionary, used Titanium backup to remove VZWs crapware and then figured why not? and installed the latest Synergy ROM.
I guess I just can't live with a non-rooted phone for 24 hours..... <sigh>
i keep trying out different roms all the time(sense & aosp based) and find that i'll keep going back to Synergy. it seems the most stable just i having issues with settling with just one rom.
Everyone has a different opinion on what stable is. I think CM7 is plenty stable, but there are those that disagree for whatever logical/illogical reason. Mainly, if you aren't prepared to encounter issues either brought up by your own experimenting or those of the ROM developer, I would stay with what the phone came with and be happy you have a phone that (sort of) works
If you are more brave, then read on.
If you read the comments about most ROMs, there is no such thing as a 100% infallible, will never ever let you down, stable ROM. ROMs are generally bleeding edge and users accept the fact they may have bugs in exchange for the phone doing more than what HTC and verizon allowed them to do. However, ignore most comments, because those are generally just people that screwed something up either knowingly or unknowingly. Like people that go the the hospital (for those that have family members that work at one), not everyone is ready to admit they did something stupid and have it on public display
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If you read the comments about most ROMs, there is no such thing as a 100% infallible, will never ever let you down, stable ROM.
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Skyraider with Ziggy's kernel is EXACTLY this. It has average to good battery life though. Everything works, including it being compatible with call recording and incredicontrol (voltage control app). It also has the notification tweaks that no one has quite duplicated and I have grown to love.
I find Synergy to be an excellent rom as well, but the themes available do not suit me at all. It does support everything with good battery life and also adds HTC Hub which is awesome. It also has DConfig, which I just have not gotten a great benefit from but I guess some might.
The theory sense rom was smooth as silk, and seemed to be a happy medium between the first two I posted.
Chingy's rom is VERY slick, but very vanilla. The fact that it is Odexed makes theming harder I think, but for me that means I cannot replace the HTC browser with the AOSP one, and I HATE THE SENSE BROWSER lol.
ALL AOSP roms seem to have squashed most of the crappy battery issues and get great battery life now. This added to a FAR FAR FAR better bluetooth stack for better use with wireless devices like Jawbone, AND compatability with PS3 hardware make them an awesome choice. The ONLY problem is the lack of reliable network location. This means google maps works perfect, but your web browser can and will put you across the world sometimes, as well as weather apps etc. This rules it out for me for now.
Hope that helps
Shifts3ns3 has been the best for me, while I liked synergy, it had more bugs and seemed much slower to me, shift has the useful 3.0 features without the slowdown of a full sense 3.0 rom
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I give up.... no more flashing for me

*begin rant* I give up. I'm tired of flashing different roms everytime just to have a stable device. I've tried all the ics roms for our device, but all seem to have their different issues to deal with. I'm now going to stick to rooted stock gb, for I feel that it meets my needs ,though its slow as hell. Imma wait for the official ics update, hopefully that is stable enough with no issues. The leaks have terrible battery life.
On another note, pun intended, if the whole T-Mobile modem situation doesnt work out, looks like imma sell this bad boy. I love the size and the screen, but I value stability. Maybe I'll wait for cm9 to come out alongside the official kernel. If that doesn't help, bye bye g note.
Anyone else feel like this? Imma try out saurom in the mean time, tho I'm in love with ics.
Dueces.
*end of rant.
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Saurom on dag's kernel is the only rom I will ever flash until we get access to the kernel
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I felt the same way until I tried flapjaxx base ics. Its very stable compared to the others I've tried.
I really think it is an app causing your issues, or the way you are restoring them. The latest ICS leak is rock solid for me, not a single FC after weeks of use, and insane battery life. Off the charger for 14 hours and at 68% right now.
Try going to a solid no frill ROM (might I suggest the one by Flappjaxx). Set the CPU to use the FJ settings. Then just try a basic setup for a while. Don't go crazy with the apps, just configure mail and whatnot, see how everything goes for a day or two.
Do yourself a favor and down load this rom, i have been using for about 2weeks and its more stable than GB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669170
Flashing aint for everyone. So, if you can't take it then leave, I guess. I don't know what you're whining about. I have had several fast, stable ROMs on my Note. I am currently using Flapjaxxx IMM. (By the way, the link above me is for a rip off of Flapjaxxx ROM so yes, it works.) As already stated, your issues may very well be your own cause. Depending on how you flash and restore your data you may be messing it up yourself. One last thing. You have no right to feel so entitled. These ROMs, and XDA as a whole, is experimental and FREE. So stop whining.
Before giving up try FlapJaxx, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
I agree with the others. Try flashing Flapjaxx's ROM and installing your apps again manually instead of using Tibu. Most likely something app related, because most of the roms are stable as hell for most people.
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My problem isn't exactly the roms; its the idea that I need to flash in order to have a stable/fast device. I've been lurking here since the old winmo days. First device was a T-mobile mda, and now i'm here with the note. I'm very grateful for the community, for obvious reasons. I'm getting old lol, and no time to keep flashing and experimenting. I tried the hyfer, clean install n everything... touchwiz kept crashing. I tried flapp's rom, kept fc'ing whenever i used cut/copy/paste. numerous other small issues. its the little things. I'm not complaining. I'm just deciding to stick to stock lol. So far my flash counter is up to 16. I keep odin'ing back to stock.
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My problem isn't exactly the roms; its the idea that I need to flash in order to have a stable/fast device. I've been lurking here since the old winmo days. First device was a T-mobile mda, and now i'm here with the note. I'm very grateful for the community, for obvious reasons. I'm getting old lol, and no time to keep flashing and experimenting. I tried the hyfer, clean install n everything... touchwiz kept crashing. I tried flapp's rom, kept fc'ing whenever i used cut/copy/paste. numerous other small issues. its the little things. I'm not complaining. I'm just deciding to stick to stock lol. So far my flash counter is up to 16. I keep odin'ing back to stock.
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Which version of Flap's did you try? It was updated like a week and a half ago, and cut copy and paste work just fine.
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It's unfortunate that you are having these issues. I'm running the latest unofficial CM9 and it's solid with everything I use (don't use spen) . I haven't had an fc yet.
I'm at 31% after 15 hours off charger. 2 hours of screen time and 40 minutes of phone time as well as some steaming music through my Bluetooth, headset.
I will say that I'm very anxious for Samsung to release the official ICS so we can get an overclock kernel.
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I've tried most of the roms with varying degrees of success....I am currently running the hybrid 6.2 and it had been fast and stable! I was running an earlier version and did an upgrade but ended up doing a full wipe....I reinstalled all of my apps manually and it really works great now.... Just my two cents worth....lol
Thanks guys for the response. Actually, I think something might be wrong with the device. Even after odin'ing back to stock, i'm still greeted by fc's. Perhaps i'm using the wrong odin file? Like i just flashed saurom, and still problems galore. i'll keep you updated.
Thank you all.
shaokang said:
Thanks guys for the response. Actually, I think something might be wrong with the device. Even after odin'ing back to stock, i'm still greeted by fc's. Perhaps i'm using the wrong odin file? Like i just flashed saurom, and still problems galore. i'll keep you updated.
Thank you all.
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Like someone said, flashing isn't for everyone. If you are having problems now you didn't have on stock rom before, obviously the way you flash isn't right. Especially when others are okay on problems you have on the same rom.
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I too have decided to stay with Gingrrbread and have not even been tempted to try any of the ICS roms. I am a grown up and I have the patience to wait for the official ICS and the kernel source to be released. I never get caught up in leaks cause they are a hassle. I am on Gingerbread and everything works as it should as opposed to a buggy ICS rom thats been rigged to sorta work. If anyone uses a rom that has more than two things that simply don't work they are wasting their time and I know of at least 10 things that don't work on any of the ICS roms we have available. To each his own though. I am sure the roms will be excellent as soon as the official ICS and source are released so I don't care to wait. I have been using the same rom for three months and I doubt any of the ICS roms can touch it in any way. Try Solaris Prime A New Hope rom you won't be disappointed.
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I too have decided to stay with Gingrrbread and have not even been tempted to try any of the ICS roms. I am a grown up and I have the patience to wait for the official ICS and the kernel source to be released. I never get caught up in leaks cause they are a hassle. I am on Gingerbread and everything works as it should as opposed to a buggy ICS rom thats been rigged to sorta work. If anyone uses a rom that has more than two things that simply don't work they are wasting their time and I know of at least 10 things that don't work on any of the ICS roms we have available. To each his own though. I am sure the roms will be excellent as soon as the official ICS and source are released so I don't care to wait. I have been using the same rom for three months and I doubt any of the ICS roms can touch it in any way. Try Solaris Prime A New Hope rom you won't be disappointed.
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I don't think there's that much broke with the ICS roms. On Flapjaxx's ROM the only thing broke afaik is MHL out, which I don't use, so to me, the ROM is fully functional. Plus, since it's ICS, I also have the premium suite and SVoice, which is even more capability than any GB ROM. Don't get me wrong, I loved Solaris Prime when I used to run it, but once ICS leaked, there was no turning back. I guess the only other thing I can't do is overclock, which doesn't matter to me anyways, as ICS is already smoother than Solaris Prime was overclocked.
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Not to be rude but if you can't appreciate the work thats done by the community then you shouldn't be here. Every dev provides disclaimers (which most people don't bother to read I guess), and they do so because they don't want to deal with people whining. I do a lot of free work for people and there is nothing more disheartening than someone moaning and whining that the free help/work I'd done was not enough, when in reality the same amount of effort would've cost them $200+ dollars without the personal touches.
Blame Samsung, they haven't officially released ICS for this device. You come in here and start badmouthing ICS roms, which were produced by the effort of devs, who ask us for our input, then have to wade through the innumerable useless posts and weed out the genuine feedback they need to improve the user experience for us.
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I wouldn't really rant about it on XDA, but from what I read in the various ROM threads the OP isn't far off. The ROMs are generally good, EXCEPT for X, Y, Z, oh this doesn't work, and there's a bug there, etc.
I often see a lot of this is due to people trying silly DPI numbers, and that's just self-inflicted problems... Unfortunately a lot of that gets attributed to ROM problems when it should not be, and in fact at least one ROM thread has very clear if you're NOT running 320, don't report bugs.
Personally, stock rooted GB is working great and I'll keep using it until I see an ICS ROM that doesn't have as many caveats as I see in various threads. Some of these might be feature-over-function problems (adding too much random stuff into a ROM) but I'd say a lot of it is due to kernel and ICS Source. Hopefully the latter is less a problem as it was a month ago or so, but the kernel of course is still outstanding.
I do my fair share of tinkering on secondary devices and tablets, but my Note is my primary phone, so I don't mess with it.
Let's face it, there are a lot of people who don't want to tinker, they just want to put a ROM on their phone. That's the XDA atmosphere of today. IMO those people should not flash random ROMs on their phone.
Flapjaxx ICS rom is excellent .
Guaranteed my stock build was worse. And battery was horrible on stock. Rooted or not that bloated 2.3.6 stock rom wasted my time.
If ya don't like bugs ....wipe data /factory reset and put the phone down.
They "all " have bugs.
At least our batteries don't melt like an isheep phone ..LOL ....g
You should try objections ucle2 #2 RC1 its really fast and stable. I know what you mean it gets old having to be flashing every other day but what can you do. Its the only way to keep up with the software.
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Try one of flapps roms, I've been in all of them and they are all great...
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