Hello all,
I was just wondering what your impressions were re, the most stable ROM out now, the one with the least issues. Is there one that seems to be most hassle-free? I'm not nessasarily looking for a lot of bells and whistles...
Thanks!
Used to enjoy Theory's ROMs but felt that every few weeks he'd discontinue a ROM and release a new one. If you want a sense ROM that has a good following, I'm gonna be taking a look at SynergyROM, or if you want a non-sense ROM (AKA AOSP) I'd go CM7 (CynergyMod 7).
I'm aosp fan personally. I've used Cyanogenmod extensively, as well as Omgb. I'm currently running TheROM V4 and it is rock solid stable and very responsive. Not many bells and whistles. Just vanilla gingerbread.
It depends on what you want aosp or sense
For me I'm an aosp girl I'm running cyanogenmod 7 v1.7 loving it and. Ill give the kernel I'm using for battery life
If I don't want aosp anymore I always go to. http://teambamf.net/
I love das bamf! or if not go to http://themikmik.com/forumdisplay.php?1004-HTC-Thunderbolt-Developer-Forum I personal really like chingy's roms
I don't like Droid theory just saying
If you like sense, I really like Chingy's Gingeritis 3D.
Second vote for Gingeritis 3D. Stable and great battery life if you just use better governors.
Definitely the wrong forum, bro.
been rocking cleantheory to shiftsense for the past two weeks. both have been rock solid. DT is stopping development though, so take it for whatever that means. i think at some point all ROMS eventually lose development. hopefully whatever you choose is good enough for your daily driver if you dont like flashing over and over.
ShiftS3ns3 by DroidTho3ry rocks - give it a shot.
I think I'm going to give Gingeritis 3D a try. I'm not a pro at flashing new ROMs... i've only done it once (running BAMF 1.3 now). Is there anything special I should do? Is it just like flashing the BAMF ROM? (can I do it from ROM Manager?)
Thanks!
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been rocking cleantheory to shiftsense for the past two weeks. both have been rock solid. DT is stopping development though, so take it for whatever that means. i think at some point all ROMS eventually lose development. hopefully whatever you choose is good enough for your daily driver if you dont like flashing over and over.
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DT mentioned that he's taking a break, so hopefully he won't be gone too long. His work is better than stock.. HTC ought to hire him and get out of his way.
If you want Sense ROM, can't go wrong with SkyRaider Preview 2 or ShiftS3NS3.
If you want AOSP based ROM, SHIFTAO5P hasn't given me any problems whatsoever.
If you can live without the 3d, skyraider preview 2 is rock solid.
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FWIW, I have been pretty pleased with the Synergy ROMs and I'd be running one now but...... I was one who fell victim to either the ROM Manager update or the CWM update and now cannot restore any of my backups. I tried various earlier CWMs w/o success and finally un-rooted, installed stock, did the OTA update and I'm back 100% stock.
I mention this because it's relevent to the question..... Battery life is good, the stability is excellent and, once customized to my liking, I really can't see much difference other than the "billions and billions" of crap apps VZW and HTC have added to the phone. If I could get rid of them I'd be just fine with the stock ROM believe it or not!
I'll probably re-root at some point and it's VERY likely I'll go back to the Synergy ROM because it works. I've had rebooting problems with other ROMs I've tried and I'm no longer in a mood to experiment, maybe later?
OK, it's later. I rooted, using Revolutionary, used Titanium backup to remove VZWs crapware and then figured why not? and installed the latest Synergy ROM.
I guess I just can't live with a non-rooted phone for 24 hours..... <sigh>
i keep trying out different roms all the time(sense & aosp based) and find that i'll keep going back to Synergy. it seems the most stable just i having issues with settling with just one rom.
Everyone has a different opinion on what stable is. I think CM7 is plenty stable, but there are those that disagree for whatever logical/illogical reason. Mainly, if you aren't prepared to encounter issues either brought up by your own experimenting or those of the ROM developer, I would stay with what the phone came with and be happy you have a phone that (sort of) works
If you are more brave, then read on.
If you read the comments about most ROMs, there is no such thing as a 100% infallible, will never ever let you down, stable ROM. ROMs are generally bleeding edge and users accept the fact they may have bugs in exchange for the phone doing more than what HTC and verizon allowed them to do. However, ignore most comments, because those are generally just people that screwed something up either knowingly or unknowingly. Like people that go the the hospital (for those that have family members that work at one), not everyone is ready to admit they did something stupid and have it on public display
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If you read the comments about most ROMs, there is no such thing as a 100% infallible, will never ever let you down, stable ROM.
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Skyraider with Ziggy's kernel is EXACTLY this. It has average to good battery life though. Everything works, including it being compatible with call recording and incredicontrol (voltage control app). It also has the notification tweaks that no one has quite duplicated and I have grown to love.
I find Synergy to be an excellent rom as well, but the themes available do not suit me at all. It does support everything with good battery life and also adds HTC Hub which is awesome. It also has DConfig, which I just have not gotten a great benefit from but I guess some might.
The theory sense rom was smooth as silk, and seemed to be a happy medium between the first two I posted.
Chingy's rom is VERY slick, but very vanilla. The fact that it is Odexed makes theming harder I think, but for me that means I cannot replace the HTC browser with the AOSP one, and I HATE THE SENSE BROWSER lol.
ALL AOSP roms seem to have squashed most of the crappy battery issues and get great battery life now. This added to a FAR FAR FAR better bluetooth stack for better use with wireless devices like Jawbone, AND compatability with PS3 hardware make them an awesome choice. The ONLY problem is the lack of reliable network location. This means google maps works perfect, but your web browser can and will put you across the world sometimes, as well as weather apps etc. This rules it out for me for now.
Hope that helps
Shifts3ns3 has been the best for me, while I liked synergy, it had more bugs and seemed much slower to me, shift has the useful 3.0 features without the slowdown of a full sense 3.0 rom
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Can someone tell me where all the hype is about gingerbread besides having a tbolt n showing people that you have sw version 2.3? I just don't get it. Yeah sure it looks cool, but as we all know other Roms like BAMF (Sense or not) is just way sicker/snappier and more reliable. Sure all these GB Roms are in their early stages, but like I said, their more basic and the only true benefit I've been reading that people seem to be really concerned about is Netflix working. Obviously everyone has an opinion (like I'm expressing mine) just curious why GB has soooo much hype. Personally, with running BAMF 1.2 with Adryns 4.4.7 amongst other performance tweeks (I/O scheduler sertings, CPU settings without SetCpu etc...) My tbolt couldn't be more sick. So freaking snappy, great battery life, look n feel is so nasty that I just don't get the GB Hype... If netflix gets on this bad boy, I'd be more than set. Like I said. All personal opinion, but some good pointers/insight might help me understand. Until then, I'm more than content with my ridiculous fast more than stable Tbolt. Even if it doesn't "say 2.3.*..."
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I admire your will power, for me I guess it was just wanting to try the newest thing and Sense 2.1. However i flashed the gingeritis III rom and it soft bricked my phone, would go to boot screen and at the end it would say Enjoy your HTC Thunderbolt and never get past that. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the ROM because according to the thread several people have this working just fine on their phone. I did follow the instructions to the letter but it didn't work, luckily I was able to restore my latest backup back to Das Bamf 1.6.3 remix.......WHEW!
I had a few Gingerbread ROMs on my OG Droid and I hated them. The ROMs were well developed and mature by the time I replaced the phone, but 2.3 in general was just super buggy and annoying. Stability, speed and battery life were a mess compared to the 2.2 ROMs on that phone. I don't know how much different it is on the T-Bolt as I haven't rooted mine yet, but from my experience, Gingerbread is stale right now. Too many problems to be worth the relatively minor upgrades.
You can't judge GB based on the roms made from this leak. The people using it now are either trying to help devs, curious, or just interested in the newest thing. Once GB got figured out for my D1 it drastically improved performance and battery life, as well as offered new features.
This leak is an alpha type of product, and there will be releases that are much more finely tuned and smooth. GB has many "unseen" improvements like JIT, as well as cosmetic and functional changes. Once some good stable releases of GB come out, it will be much more appealing. I do agree about the current Froyo roms being VERY good though. The BAMF roms and lean kernel have this thing working at near perfection...so I will be waiting for the "clean" GB roms to come out for my next daily driver.
I have been a flash addict and still cant find what I like. Is there a rom that gives the speed, fluidity and battery life of asop with the beauty and widget function of sense 3.0?
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http://rootzwiki.com/forumdisplay.php?f=11
There may be some here you haven't tried... I use Skyraider Zeus and I feel it's the best one out.
Good luck, I'm in the exact same boat.
I love how fluid and fast with excellent battery life I get with the Th3ory or Hacker CM7/AOSP based ROMs...but I've spent a bit of time getting "Sense like" widgets and look.
I've recently (Again) turned to BAMF for their uber ROM. 2.5 broke Wifi, 3.0 preview is sailing along flawlessly.
If someone could package a Sense 3.0 type email, MMS and clock/weather widget (that syncs with the city you're int) I'd be in hog heaven and never lease AOSP.
But, I use my phone for work primarily, which means corporate exchange email.
I feel Sense 3.0 handles that best.
wow...had no idea there were so many TB ROMs out there...If you want smooth and stable GB...have you tried the Synergy nightlies? Been running for some time as daily drivers.
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wow...had no idea there were so many TB ROMs out there...If you want smooth and stable GB...have you tried the Synergy nightlies? Been running for some time as daily drivers.
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I think you're the first to say there's a lot of ROMs. Usually the rant certain people keep saying is that there isn't enough and our phone has no development
Good to hear someone say the opposite for once.
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I think you're the first to say there's a lot of ROMs. Usually the rant certain people keep saying is that there isn't enough and our phone has no development
Good to hear someone say the opposite for once.
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Yeah... No doubt! I don't know where some folks are coming from, but most devices don't have the variety this thing does.
I am trying the uber bamf. Seems real smooth but still lacking on battery
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+1 on skyraider zeus preview 2.
I agree that skyraider is a truly nice ROM, but if you want all the widgets your battery will suffer.
Honestly look in to the new ROMs based off of the 2.10.605.1 leak. Battery life on these is amazing.
Not much can help a phone with a heavy user, again your battery will suffer here thanks to the super bright higher resolution screen. The screen will eat up your battery no matter what rom you run.
I think skyraider may be based off of one of the latest leaks if I remember right, which is why the battery is so good with it. It uses the HTC Kernels as well.
+1 for the synergy nightlies, there not aosp but you can freeze what you dont want. ive been running them since they started and i can get 24 hours battery life easy on 4g, and its THE fastest rom ive ever used.
I realize there is already a thread about this same thing but..
I'm wondering as Synergy seems to be faster while viperROM has things like Viper control script..
I don't worry about battery life so that is not an issue, tell me your experiences with each rom, which would you recommend?
this will not end well these type of threads never do on xda ...
i use synergy myself i like the constant updates and svn where i can download a build i want and not have to wait for a official release and i enjoy helping to test in some degree
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this will not end well these type of threads never do on xda ...
i use synergy myself i like the constant updates and svn where i can download a build i want and not have to wait for a official release and i enjoy helping to test in some degree
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I liked it before the troll era where people didn't do everything they could to argue with you..
Thanks for some feedback.
They seem about equal but Synergy has much more active (or at least seems like it) devs on their team as they've already pushed through 2.3.4 and are actively working out the bugs and adding the features that were ironed out in 2.3.3.
Viper seemed to have very good battery life and that was about all i was able to see with it; i'm able to get over 24hrs battery life with synergy though after these latest builds.
If you're not worried about the extras that you can do with viperROM like their additional mods and such i would definitely say Synergy is the choice.
I don't know man. I flashed synergy last night and a bunch of things were outdated on it. For example market, google maps, youtube, etc. google talk would crash on launch. my favorite thing about the rom was the dope boot splash screen
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I was a big fan of Synergy Nightly for the 4G and i love it for the 3D, i used both roms and both are great in my opinion. I think its more of a matter of choice then anything.
i love viper rom but u know that already but the lack of updates is making me want to switch to synergy because they seem to be on top of things.and yes i know viper has a life and its nothing against him i just like to be up to date all the time.
I'm leaning more toward Synergy now.
I flashed Synergy about three weeks ago but flashed away to Viper after I found Syn to be less stable than I was willing to accept for a daily driver. Viper has been more stable for me than stock ever was, rooted or otherwise.
For the time being, Viper has had my vote because of the OCDaemon script included. I went from charging my battery twice a day to going two days between charges. Now that Synergy has the script, I will probably give it a try again in a couple days.
Yea vipers is really rock stable so I don't mind neither is it unexpected to me that the process is a little time consuming. If I'm going to have a shiny new toy, I can't have it be crashing and freezing up on me when I'm trying to show it off to friends
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Which is better in terms of performance and speed?
ZachPA said:
I'm leaning more toward Synergy now.
I flashed Synergy about three weeks ago but flashed away to Viper after I found Syn to be less stable than I was willing to accept for a daily driver. Viper has been more stable for me than stock ever was, rooted or otherwise.
For the time being, Viper has had my vote because of the OCDaemon script included. I went from charging my battery twice a day to going two days between charges. Now that Synergy has the script, I will probably give it a try again in a couple days.
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2 days on a stock battery?
I have used both pretty extensively and I must say that right now I prefer viper. For me, it has been more stable and battery life is better, I do not have a single complaint about the ROM and I don't mind the slow updates because the ROM works so well. I need a ROM that performs better than stock but is just as stable because I don't have time to flash a new ROM everyday nor do I want to deal with unexpected bugs.
Same experience, Viper was more stable and gave me a bump in apps, tweaks and performance over stock. Synergy is young yet and I don't have the time right now to follow forums and offer feedback to the dev community. Keeping an eye on it though.
I liked both myself. The Synergy seemed to be faster but less battery life and the Viper gave me more battery life at reasonable speeds faster then stock.
Pros of the Synergy is all the added features and bells and wistles like more cool ringtones and other small to big stuff. Viper could easily add some of that to the current. With Synergy I also liked icons and layout. BUT THE ABSOLUTE biggest thing is.... I had tons of issues, force close on this and that.. I couldnt even get the Weather via sense to work it was always crashing so was some of the live wallpapers and they removed some features I wanted and got rid of alot of the ones I didnt. Honestly if you took the best of both and made one it would be off the hook.
BUT the winner for now is Viper as its rock solid and stable. Its fast enough and has great battery life.
For me the question is what Kernel worked the best with what rom on your phone???
Have either of these ROMs incorporated the 2.08.651.2 OTA update features?
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Have either of these ROMs incorporated the 2.08.651.2 OTA update features?
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Good question.
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Have either of these ROMs incorporated the 2.08.651.2 OTA update features?
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anyone?
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Great feedback on the roms guys. My 3D is in mission critical mode due to work going balls to the wall and I can't chance any issues popping up, but have always wanted to hear honest feedback on these two roms. Really appreciate the non fanboy real talk
Hopefully when work slows down I can try both of them out.
Tried both, keep going back to Viper. Just seems to be more stable. Lack of updates is OK with me because it is working great as is.
Viper ROM fast stable but on 2.3.3 where synergy is on 2.3.4 and right now source code not released yet so he really can't unlock the code for better speed. I used both and synergy is constantly updating his ROM on a daily basis if your into beta builds... Hope this helps
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I have been running senseless for a while now and it has been my daily driver. I had no problems with it, other than the horrible battery life.. I was running synergy but I uninstalled because of the random reboots I was having. Which ROM/kernel combo is running the best for you? Plus, I'm getting tired of the aosp/sense feel.. I need some excitement like MIUI, but I'm not too sure on how many bugs it has. I've seen that the only bug is 4g? Correct me if I'm wrong!
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I have been running senseless for a while now and it has been my daily driver. I had no problems with it, other than the horrible battery life.. I was running synergy but I uninstalled because of the random reboots I was having. Which ROM/kernel combo is running the best for you? Plus, I'm getting tired of the aosp/sense feel.. I need some excitement like MIUI, but I'm not too sure on how many bugs it has. I've seen that the only bug is 4g? Correct me if I'm wrong!
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I'm currently on the stock ROM and seem to great pretty good battery life. I rarely have to charge my phone during the day, but also I'm not a very *heavy* cell phone user.
As far as MIUI and other AOSP based ROMs are concerned, not only will they not support 4G (WiMAX) but they also will not support the full range of 3D features at this point in time.
I've heard some developers are both working on WiMAX and 3D for AOSP but haven't seen too many detailed updates. If you rely on either of these features, AOSP will not work well. But if you can live without these two features, it would definitely be worth the 5-10 minutes to backup and flash the new ROM gaining personal experience.
If you're interested in using another ROM, I'd suggest backing up the current ROM and flashing over to the new ROM. Once you've done this a few times, it becomes very easy and in my opinion, this is best way to evaluate the ROM for yourself! Ultimately, doesn't matter what other people say if you're not happy!
Hope that helps!
I was given a Verizon HTC 4G Thunderbolt today. My wifes old Fascinate was on the verge of dying, so it was perfect timing. I got her all setup with her apps/contacts and she started learning how to use her new phone..... but now that she's sleeping I figured I would "enhance" her new phone and maybe learn a little something in the meantime. If I don't manage to turn it into a paperweight
I've never flashed a ROM before, but I've rooted many phones. I managed to get this one rooted and have downloaded a few roms (haven't flashed them yet), but after going through the different options it seems like you are always sacrificing something with a rom, is this normal?
I found that one rom where the wifi didn't work (this is a must for my wifes limited data plan), I found another rom where the camera didn't work (We have 3 kids and her phone is basically her camera), I found another one where 4G wasn't supported (she's going from a 3G to a 4G phone, I want her to use that feature).
Anyway, it just seems like each one has something that doesn't work...Is this normal or did I just happen to click on the ones that have issues?
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Anyway, it just seems like each one has something that doesn't work...Is this normal or did I just happen to click on the ones that have issues?
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Which ROMs have you downloaded? I'd recommend ThunderShed for a Gingerbread base. I used that for several months without issue. I'm on Liquid's ICS now and only have the reported camcorder issue although the camera still works.
I haven't flashed anything yet, I just started downloading roms and happened to notice that Liquid didn't have a working video camera. I can't remember the names of each one, but as mentioned before, one didn't have a working wifi, one didn't support 4G.... so it just seemed like each one was missing something.
I'll look into the one you mentioned, thanks!
If youre looking for a ics sense 3.6 based rom with everything working I suggest trying out nusense 3.6. its pretty good and everything seems to work. what I am running now.
If you want a GB then for aosp thundershed is the way to go. If you want a good sense gb rom skyraider is perfect when it comes to sense roms and everything works on those 2.
Oh and might want to ask your wife if she wants you messing with her phone. Messing with a womans phone is like messing with her kid not a great idea lol. I know my wife has told me if I root her phone she will kill me.
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If youre looking for a ics sense 3.6 based rom with everything working I suggest trying out nusense 3.6. its pretty good and everything seems to work. what I am running now.
If you want a GB then for aosp thundershed is the way to go. If you want a good sense gb rom skyraider is perfect when it comes to sense roms and everything works on those 2.
Oh and might want to ask your wife if she wants you messing with her phone. Messing with a womans phone is like messing with her kid not a great idea lol. I know my wife has told me if I root her phone she will kill me.
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LOL, I'll check them out, THANKS!
As for me rooting her phone, she doesn't have a clue what that means, she just knows that now she doesn't have ads in her games and she likes that.
She did complain that the HTC interface is way different than the Samsung interface (DUH), are there ary roms that would make it look/act like her Samsung?
Samsung usually runs aosp so if you flash liquid ics she may not notice if you use a touchwiz theme.
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I found this thread, is it my only option:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061883
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Samsung usually runs aosp so if you flash liquid ics she may not notice if you use a touchwiz theme.
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Liquid ICS doesn't have a working video camera...this will definately piss her off!
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Liquid ICS doesn't have a working video camera...this will definately piss her off!
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Lol I forgot about that because I never use it.
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Also some people has had the camera to stop working also after while. Yeah sense is way different than touchwiz. You could look for a theme that mimics touchwiz.
You could download a launcher like HOLO, Go launcher and AWD (think thats what its called.) .
I will second the recommendation of Thundershed 1.6, which has been flawless since I flashed it (everything works, runs super fast and smooth, and battery life is way better than stock and most other custom ROMs). You do need to bear in mind that these are custom ROMs, meaning each is designed to reflect the priorities of the designer and involve a certain degree of risk (rooting and replacing the stock ROM invalidates warraty), but in my experience the custom ROMs I have used (only two: BAMF Son Of A Bliss aka SOAB 1.4; Thundershed 1.6) have been as stable (if not more stable) than the original Thunderbolt. Also keep in mind, *every* device is different and custom ROMs act differently on every device.
Those caveats in place, I'd research different custom ROMs, and how each can be customized with different launchers, lockscreens and themes, and try one or two out. The Sense-based ROMs will act more like the stock Thunderbolt. Sense based ROMs include SOAB, Skyraider Zeus, and BAMF Forever, and the AOSP ROMs include Thundershed, Liquid Smooth 3.2, and SFK's CM7 build. While everyone is excited about the new ICS custom ROMs they still seem pretty "BETA" (Santod's NuSense 3.6 seems furthest along) like and so I'd wait until all of the bugs are worked out and focus more on Gingerbread ROMs for your "daily driver."
Hope this helps.