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I've been running xtrSENSE 4.1 for a few months. My wifes Eris is still stock. Thinking about moving to xtrSENSE 4.6.5.
Is there anything better?
Is there a post that compares the ROM's?
I see xtrTenzoRCMix2.1 claims no 50% without signal bug.
DaveDragon said:
I've been running xtrSENSE 4.1 for a few months. My wifes Eris is still stock. Thinking about moving to xtrSENSE 4.6.5.
Is there anything better?
Is there a post that compares the ROM's?
I see xtrTenzoRCMix2.1 claims no 50% without signal bug.
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IMHO, xtrSENSE is the stuff! I ran it and xtrROM for the longest times on my Eris. I would make the move to 4.6.5. He has a beta of xtrROM v5.0 out now, so maybe there'll be an xtrSENSE v5.0 soon, too.
I'm using Froyo ROMs now, FYI, although sometimes it's tempting to go back to xtr.
I might consider a Froyo based ROM but I'd like to keep my wife close to stock, only better and faster. When I first loaded xtrSENSE on mine I had her compare the 2 phones, the xtr phone was definitely faster and smoother. We're not eligible for an upgrade until December, the Eris's will have to do for another 10 months.
I've been running xtrSENSE 4.6.5 and don't know why you wouldn't upgrade. No signif issues (you can check the appropriate thread to see if there's anything that might bother you). 4.6.5 feels very stable and quicker than my previous OTA 2.1.
I also flashed CELBFroyo 4.1 for a bit but didn't like the non-SENSE UI. To be fair, I didn't give myself much time to get used to it, but it didn't seem appreciably faster and so I didn't see the point in giving up the SENSE bits that I like. The only thing that I preferred is that Froyo allows the newer gmail app (wife has a HTC Inc, so I've seen and used it up close). But until they develop a Froyo, sense-UI ROM that runs smoothly and stably on my little Eris, I'll probly stay with xtrSENSE.
And FWIW, I don't think there's a 5.0 version coming anytime soon--that is currently xtrROM specific.
Good luck,
xtrSENSE is going to probably be your best bet for a very good and stable STOCK sense rom. i read Tenzo's sense rom is very good also but i dont know if it is a stock sense rom, i have not tried it and it kind of looks like it has alot of custom tweaks and and interface changes
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I have flashed them all . The Very best rom out of all those here is xtrsence5.0.1. it has everything a stock 2.1 eris has plus all the other goodies . loaded 100 app in memory and not a bit of lag . has wifi hotspot camera and video wired tethering apps2sd cache2cache Overclock or not and well its fast and no Fc'ed apps . Very Nice Thanks ZACK !! currently have 481 apps installed on it and sd card . no lag and plenty of rom memory left
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So, long story short; about this time last year, she decided on the Eris, as she liked the design and feel. It seemed decent in the store, but within a month or so, it bogged down, and at this point, she now uses it for NOTHING more than just a basic cell phone.
With that said, we have been looking at other phones (Thunderbolt), but with money being tight, alternatives are more than welcomed. So, i got to thinking; i am no stranger to modding and rooting, but it is normally my stuff. I am totally in the dark when it comes to what has happened on the Eris's front, and thus my post here.
I know there are roms out there, even some decent GB ones. And i am fairly sure some kernels will allow some overclocking. But for me, in order to really justify wiping her phone, and making her redo all the customizations, i guess i really need to understand just how much (or little) the actual user experience is improved. With a good ROM and overclock, will the phone be noticeably quicker than the the phone as it is now? I know the Arm v6 CPU is quite dated, but is there any hope for this little phone?
Or, should we call it a wash, and be on the lookout for a good used, or a decent new one (though, we hate contracts.. ugg..)? All advice is welcomed!
The default ROM is horrifyingly bad. It's buggy, slow, drains the battery just sitting there... really, just the worst.
Any ROM here would be infinitely better. Battery life will improve, responsiveness goes way up, everything. You might want to stick to a Sense ROM like Nonsensikal for a proof of concept to her, but you can't really go wrong.
Do anything to get her off stock. I'm not kidding.
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Thanks for the advice. I am guessing Nonsensikal is at least Froyo (currently at work, so i don't have more than a few mintues to post... will do more research tonight).
Also, what are people able to get in terms of overclocking? And on the poor old Eris, is it even worth it?
You can generally get 710 safely. That's a pretty big boost from stock. Most ROMs come overclocked, not sure about Nonsensikal. People also seem to like xtrSense, but that's still 2.1.
But like I said, you can't really go wrong. Absolutely anything is better than stock.
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At this point, I think I'd not even bother with any of the Froyo ROMs and just go either xtrSENSE or xtrROM, or go to one of the Gingerbread ROMs. There is an issue with GPS with all of the Froyo ROMs that I know of (after about 20 to 30 minutes of use, the GPS starts getting spurious data; if you are using Navigation, you generally need to reset the GPS radio to get it back on track.) This issue is gone with GSB (and I believe with Ginger Tazz as well.)
xtrSENSE is a good first root ROM, as it is exactly stock with none of the lag issues that plague stock over time.
+1 xtrSENSE. It won't be culture shock for your wife, since it's stock-based, but has overclocking/underclocking/a choice of governors, more memory for apps, I think it has 50% Time Without Singal fix built in.
If she's not a power user hook her up with an xtrRom. But if she is a power user I would highly suggest GSB. Ever since GSB is the only GB rom that is officially supported by CyanogenMod. Our very own Workshed just so happens to be the Eris maintainer as well. Good luck!
DINC|CM7|SLAYHER#27
My wife and I are due for an upgrade in Oct. Heard on Android Forums about Workshed's GSB ROM's. Installed it on mine and my wife's phones, she checked my phone out liked the ROM. She is a Shed fan now. Really gives your Eris a new lease on life. Highly recommend.
Nonsensikal V16.1 Final and Froshedyo V11 Final are stable & reliable, both on 2.2 - and recommended - with many apps via the Market. They are 1 up from the XtrSense and XtrRom.
GSG V2.8 just released is very promising once everything is fine tuned and finalized, turning this little Eris devil into a speeding demon.
To sum it, plenty of juicing up to make this an everyday workhorse with a new lease on life.
Thanks again for the all the advice guys. We are gonna start backing up her stuff, and then figure out which one to go with. The tech in me says the gingerbread roms, but i think she likes the sense widgets, so those may be the ones to start out with.....
Give OMGB 1.1.1 a try. I've been running it for about 5 days now with NO issues whatsoever. Extremely stable and fast.
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Thanks again for the all the advice guys. We are gonna start backing up her stuff, and then figure out which one to go with. The tech in me says the gingerbread roms, but i think she likes the sense widgets, so those may be the ones to start out with.....
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GSB + Launcher Pro Plus sense-like widgets
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+ for xtrsense
i always find myself going back to it no matter what rom i try next fastest and most stable one i found... i don't care much for gb as its slower than froyo imo...it just has more features
We have two Eris phones and installed GSB on both about a year ago, latest GSB 2.8 is very stable and fast.
I installed GSB on both mine and wifes Eris nearly a year ago. The latest GSB 2.8 is very fast and stable. My only complaint is web browsing is still slow to load pages. I have flashed several others and always go back to GSB. My wife was ready to trash her Eris before I rooted it and installed GSB. She gets highly excited when her phone doesn't work right.
xtrSense!
My wife's Eris was getting extremely slow and the battery wasn't lasting a day. Loaded xtrSense and it's made a world of difference.
Loaded widgets and apps back the way she had it and except for some missing data in a few apps and different wallpapers, she couldn't tell any difference in the interface.
The Eris runs much smoother, responds a lot quicker, and battery life is outstanding. Going on 40 hours since last unplugged with moderate use and 57% still battery remaining.
My wife loves it.
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Running GSB overclocked 480-768 Mhz (bit more battery drain but smoothes things out) with V6Supercharge installed (option 6). Runs silky smooth and I'm very happy. Way better than stock!
Hey guys, I had my last phone rooted (mt3g) but I couldnt stand the instability of CM so I decided to not root this one.....but now Im bored since Ive had it since release so Id like to at least flash a kernal so I can play with overclock. My question is can I root and continue to use the stock sense and flash a kernal for overclocking? If so what is the most stable and recommended kernal out? Thanks.
Use adrynalynes or imoseyons. Pretty easy to find the most popular. Look at the threads.
Rooting will wipe your phone anyway might as well flash a Rom, at least to get rid of bloat. All the froyo ones are very stable and have some nice tweaks. I like bamf best.
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headcheese said:
Use adrynalynes or imoseyons. Pretty easy to find the most popular. Look at the threads.
Rooting will wipe your phone anyway might as well flash a Rom, at least to get rid of bloat. All the froyo ones are very stable and have some nice tweaks. I like bamf best.
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This is good advice right here. The other piece of advice is that you should stick with a Froyo-based ROM/kernel/radio for now. Theory is that GB radio creates bricked phones (incredibly low percentage chance of it happening but why risk it if you're not a risky type?).
Das Bamf and Perfect Storm are the two I would recommend. I prefer Imoseyon's kernels but Adrynalyne's are great too. Drod's are also good but not as popular (he had some of the first ones out there, though, and used to be the best).
I thought the same thing when I picked up my phone...
Started lurking on here... And 6 hours into ownership I was rooted and running Das BAMF. I would root, and try out one of the froyo roms. My favorite so far is Das BAMF.
Just want to throw my 2 cents in and recommend the Liquid Thundersense ROM. I just flashed 1.5 today and am thoroughly impressed. (My goals were simply battery life improvement and debloat.)
I flashed Imo's sweet, tweakable kernel though, IIRC, the ROM may actually come with it. Either way, between the two the performance and battery life are already such an improvement over stock that I probably won't bother with other ROMs until a stable Gingerbread one is available — I was spoiled coming from a myTouch 4G running CM7.
That said, if Liquid Thundersense has a weak spot, it's the default theme. It's not bad but, like I said, CM7's slick GB+ADWlauncher UI spoiled me...
XDA Premium on Tbolt. That is all.
I am most stable with bamf 1.6.2, tried to upgrade to 1.7 but when doing a restore with titanium, things seem to go a bit awkward. When I get a chance I'll probably do a clean install of bamf 1.7 remix or stripped with apps/data without the system apps. I've been running without 4g for best battery life. LTE seems to bring my battery life to its knees (<8 hours with decent usage).
Wanting to get some peoples opinions on if i should go ahead and flash a GB rom and GB radio? I am currently running Das BAMF 1.7 and loving it. If there is something better out there, I am wanting it lol. I always like to try new things but definitley dont want to brick my TB.
It is your phone your call. The warning thread has made it aware there is no fix for the potential bricking they mentioned and the ROM threads for GB have all the pros/cons. With that said I went back to Froyo for a couple of days and flashed GB again on Friday night. Runs great (again)
No guts no glory
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I'll be the dude that says it. This belongs in Q&A not in development.
PIITB and go for it.
Identical thread is identical.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104447
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I'm running CM7 GB and besides the flaky wifi and broken GPS everything is flawless. Running like a champ and no chance of the bootloop bricking.
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powerstroke said:
but definitley dont want to brick my TB.
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If you are saying this then I'd probably stay off GB for a bit until the bricking issue is resolved.
chrisjm00 said:
I'm running CM7 GB and besides the flaky wifi and broken GPS everything is flawless. Running like a champ and no chance of the bootloop bricking.
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Laughing... Except for the things that don't work..... Priceless!
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Lets take the bricking issues out of the equation for a minute.
What's out there now is the sense ALPHA leak, or CM7 alpha.There are no GB ROM's out there right now completely developed for the thunderbolt. Dev's have done a great job getting these to work reasonably well considering what they have to work with. Until there is a high level release/leak we won't likely see any GB ROM's that are stable, efficient, and bug free.
Now if you are a tweaker, and are dying to see what the new features are, sure give it a shot. Other than that there really is nothing to be gained by going with GB at the moment. The Froyo ROM's are built of off completed, released code. At the moment they perform better, are more efficient, have more support, less bugs, and are stable.
Short awnser, nah...Just wait a bit until there is a better leak.
Do it.
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Lets take the bricking issues out of the equation for a minute.
What's out there now is the sense ALPHA leak, or CM7 alpha.There are no GB ROM's out there right now completely developed for the thunderbolt. Dev's have done a great job getting these to work reasonably well considering what they have to work with. Until there is a high level release/leak we won't likely see any GB ROM's that are stable, efficient, and bug free.
Now if you are a tweaker, and are dying to see what the new features are, sure give it a shot. Other than that there really is nothing to be gained by going with GB at the moment. The Froyo ROM's are built of off completed, released code. At the moment they perform better, are more efficient, have more support, less bugs, and are stable.
Short awnser, nah...Just wait a bit until there is a better leak.
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Both batter life and GPS were improved on ginger compared to froyo
The only problem with ginger is USB mounting the phone and the potential "brick"
I don't care to one hand because I have yet to se another soul say that they have a bricked device so I slightly don't believe them
>--The Game--<
superchilpil said:
Both batter life and GPS were improved on ginger compared to froyo
The only problem with ginger is USB mounting the phone and the potential "brick"
I don't care to one hand because I have yet to se another soul say that they have a bricked device so I slightly don't believe them
>--The Game--<
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For usb mounting I believe by putting the phone into internet passthrough and allowing the drivers to install to computer...then go to disk drive it should work. lemme know if it does
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For usb mounting I believe by putting the phone into internet passthrough and allowing the drivers to install to computer...then go to disk drive it should work. lemme know if it does
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Its still a "problem" so to say because it doesn't do it automatically
It takes some effort to get adb to funcion too
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I wasnt going to go back to Froyo at first because i was loving the new features, plus i was getting reboots on froyo ever since i went to a custom ROM, when i got on GB, they stopped, but the scare got the best of me so i ran back to Froyo. I flashed the old CDMA/old LTE radio version (the 4th one on the thread) and went back to BAMF 1.6.3. Fortunately, the reboots did not return with Froyo and everything has been running great. i have thought about going back to GB, but i am going to wait until an official radio gets leaked. Only because that radio still needs some work and my battery was draining much faster than it was when i was on Froyo. So it's been nice to have the longer lasting battery back.
superchilpil said:
Both batter life and GPS were improved on ginger compared to froyo
The only problem with ginger is USB mounting the phone and the potential "brick"
I don't care to one hand because I have yet to se another soul say that they have a bricked device so I slightly don't believe them
>--The Game--<
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You are welcome to that opinion, but many others, including myself have experienced the exact opposite with battery life. GPS was improved though.
I get about 18-30 hours on Froyo depending on use...I never topped 15 hours on GB, and the performance was worse as well.
When I had my D1 however, GB did wonders for that phone (CM7). It improved performance and battery life by leaps and bounds...I hope for those same results on the thunderbolt once better leaks/releases are available.
Edit: When speaking about thunderbolt GB battery life/performance, I am referring to the sense roms. It's been a while since I used CM7 on the TB so it's possible that is better.
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You are welcome to that opinion, but many others, including myself have experienced the exact opposite with battery life. GPS was improved though.
I get about 18-30 hours on Froyo depending on use...I never topped 15 hours on GB, and the performance was worse as well.
When I had my D1 however, GB did wonders for that phone (CM7). It improved performance and battery life by leaps and bounds...I hope for those same results on the thunderbolt once better leaks/releases are available.
Edit: When speaking about thunderbolt GB battery life/performance, I am referring to the sense roms. It's been a while since I used CM7 on the TB so it's possible that is better.
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I agree with ya. i dont see how anybody got/gets better battery life on GB right now, the drop in battery life was very evident.
Hello all,
I was just wondering what your impressions were re, the most stable ROM out now, the one with the least issues. Is there one that seems to be most hassle-free? I'm not nessasarily looking for a lot of bells and whistles...
Thanks!
Used to enjoy Theory's ROMs but felt that every few weeks he'd discontinue a ROM and release a new one. If you want a sense ROM that has a good following, I'm gonna be taking a look at SynergyROM, or if you want a non-sense ROM (AKA AOSP) I'd go CM7 (CynergyMod 7).
I'm aosp fan personally. I've used Cyanogenmod extensively, as well as Omgb. I'm currently running TheROM V4 and it is rock solid stable and very responsive. Not many bells and whistles. Just vanilla gingerbread.
It depends on what you want aosp or sense
For me I'm an aosp girl I'm running cyanogenmod 7 v1.7 loving it and. Ill give the kernel I'm using for battery life
If I don't want aosp anymore I always go to. http://teambamf.net/
I love das bamf! or if not go to http://themikmik.com/forumdisplay.php?1004-HTC-Thunderbolt-Developer-Forum I personal really like chingy's roms
I don't like Droid theory just saying
If you like sense, I really like Chingy's Gingeritis 3D.
Second vote for Gingeritis 3D. Stable and great battery life if you just use better governors.
Definitely the wrong forum, bro.
been rocking cleantheory to shiftsense for the past two weeks. both have been rock solid. DT is stopping development though, so take it for whatever that means. i think at some point all ROMS eventually lose development. hopefully whatever you choose is good enough for your daily driver if you dont like flashing over and over.
ShiftS3ns3 by DroidTho3ry rocks - give it a shot.
I think I'm going to give Gingeritis 3D a try. I'm not a pro at flashing new ROMs... i've only done it once (running BAMF 1.3 now). Is there anything special I should do? Is it just like flashing the BAMF ROM? (can I do it from ROM Manager?)
Thanks!
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been rocking cleantheory to shiftsense for the past two weeks. both have been rock solid. DT is stopping development though, so take it for whatever that means. i think at some point all ROMS eventually lose development. hopefully whatever you choose is good enough for your daily driver if you dont like flashing over and over.
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DT mentioned that he's taking a break, so hopefully he won't be gone too long. His work is better than stock.. HTC ought to hire him and get out of his way.
If you want Sense ROM, can't go wrong with SkyRaider Preview 2 or ShiftS3NS3.
If you want AOSP based ROM, SHIFTAO5P hasn't given me any problems whatsoever.
If you can live without the 3d, skyraider preview 2 is rock solid.
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FWIW, I have been pretty pleased with the Synergy ROMs and I'd be running one now but...... I was one who fell victim to either the ROM Manager update or the CWM update and now cannot restore any of my backups. I tried various earlier CWMs w/o success and finally un-rooted, installed stock, did the OTA update and I'm back 100% stock.
I mention this because it's relevent to the question..... Battery life is good, the stability is excellent and, once customized to my liking, I really can't see much difference other than the "billions and billions" of crap apps VZW and HTC have added to the phone. If I could get rid of them I'd be just fine with the stock ROM believe it or not!
I'll probably re-root at some point and it's VERY likely I'll go back to the Synergy ROM because it works. I've had rebooting problems with other ROMs I've tried and I'm no longer in a mood to experiment, maybe later?
OK, it's later. I rooted, using Revolutionary, used Titanium backup to remove VZWs crapware and then figured why not? and installed the latest Synergy ROM.
I guess I just can't live with a non-rooted phone for 24 hours..... <sigh>
i keep trying out different roms all the time(sense & aosp based) and find that i'll keep going back to Synergy. it seems the most stable just i having issues with settling with just one rom.
Everyone has a different opinion on what stable is. I think CM7 is plenty stable, but there are those that disagree for whatever logical/illogical reason. Mainly, if you aren't prepared to encounter issues either brought up by your own experimenting or those of the ROM developer, I would stay with what the phone came with and be happy you have a phone that (sort of) works
If you are more brave, then read on.
If you read the comments about most ROMs, there is no such thing as a 100% infallible, will never ever let you down, stable ROM. ROMs are generally bleeding edge and users accept the fact they may have bugs in exchange for the phone doing more than what HTC and verizon allowed them to do. However, ignore most comments, because those are generally just people that screwed something up either knowingly or unknowingly. Like people that go the the hospital (for those that have family members that work at one), not everyone is ready to admit they did something stupid and have it on public display
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If you read the comments about most ROMs, there is no such thing as a 100% infallible, will never ever let you down, stable ROM.
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Skyraider with Ziggy's kernel is EXACTLY this. It has average to good battery life though. Everything works, including it being compatible with call recording and incredicontrol (voltage control app). It also has the notification tweaks that no one has quite duplicated and I have grown to love.
I find Synergy to be an excellent rom as well, but the themes available do not suit me at all. It does support everything with good battery life and also adds HTC Hub which is awesome. It also has DConfig, which I just have not gotten a great benefit from but I guess some might.
The theory sense rom was smooth as silk, and seemed to be a happy medium between the first two I posted.
Chingy's rom is VERY slick, but very vanilla. The fact that it is Odexed makes theming harder I think, but for me that means I cannot replace the HTC browser with the AOSP one, and I HATE THE SENSE BROWSER lol.
ALL AOSP roms seem to have squashed most of the crappy battery issues and get great battery life now. This added to a FAR FAR FAR better bluetooth stack for better use with wireless devices like Jawbone, AND compatability with PS3 hardware make them an awesome choice. The ONLY problem is the lack of reliable network location. This means google maps works perfect, but your web browser can and will put you across the world sometimes, as well as weather apps etc. This rules it out for me for now.
Hope that helps
Shifts3ns3 has been the best for me, while I liked synergy, it had more bugs and seemed much slower to me, shift has the useful 3.0 features without the slowdown of a full sense 3.0 rom
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