I was given a Verizon HTC 4G Thunderbolt today. My wifes old Fascinate was on the verge of dying, so it was perfect timing. I got her all setup with her apps/contacts and she started learning how to use her new phone..... but now that she's sleeping I figured I would "enhance" her new phone and maybe learn a little something in the meantime. If I don't manage to turn it into a paperweight
I've never flashed a ROM before, but I've rooted many phones. I managed to get this one rooted and have downloaded a few roms (haven't flashed them yet), but after going through the different options it seems like you are always sacrificing something with a rom, is this normal?
I found that one rom where the wifi didn't work (this is a must for my wifes limited data plan), I found another rom where the camera didn't work (We have 3 kids and her phone is basically her camera), I found another one where 4G wasn't supported (she's going from a 3G to a 4G phone, I want her to use that feature).
Anyway, it just seems like each one has something that doesn't work...Is this normal or did I just happen to click on the ones that have issues?
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Anyway, it just seems like each one has something that doesn't work...Is this normal or did I just happen to click on the ones that have issues?
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Which ROMs have you downloaded? I'd recommend ThunderShed for a Gingerbread base. I used that for several months without issue. I'm on Liquid's ICS now and only have the reported camcorder issue although the camera still works.
I haven't flashed anything yet, I just started downloading roms and happened to notice that Liquid didn't have a working video camera. I can't remember the names of each one, but as mentioned before, one didn't have a working wifi, one didn't support 4G.... so it just seemed like each one was missing something.
I'll look into the one you mentioned, thanks!
If youre looking for a ics sense 3.6 based rom with everything working I suggest trying out nusense 3.6. its pretty good and everything seems to work. what I am running now.
If you want a GB then for aosp thundershed is the way to go. If you want a good sense gb rom skyraider is perfect when it comes to sense roms and everything works on those 2.
Oh and might want to ask your wife if she wants you messing with her phone. Messing with a womans phone is like messing with her kid not a great idea lol. I know my wife has told me if I root her phone she will kill me.
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If youre looking for a ics sense 3.6 based rom with everything working I suggest trying out nusense 3.6. its pretty good and everything seems to work. what I am running now.
If you want a GB then for aosp thundershed is the way to go. If you want a good sense gb rom skyraider is perfect when it comes to sense roms and everything works on those 2.
Oh and might want to ask your wife if she wants you messing with her phone. Messing with a womans phone is like messing with her kid not a great idea lol. I know my wife has told me if I root her phone she will kill me.
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LOL, I'll check them out, THANKS!
As for me rooting her phone, she doesn't have a clue what that means, she just knows that now she doesn't have ads in her games and she likes that.
She did complain that the HTC interface is way different than the Samsung interface (DUH), are there ary roms that would make it look/act like her Samsung?
Samsung usually runs aosp so if you flash liquid ics she may not notice if you use a touchwiz theme.
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I found this thread, is it my only option:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061883
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Samsung usually runs aosp so if you flash liquid ics she may not notice if you use a touchwiz theme.
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Liquid ICS doesn't have a working video camera...this will definately piss her off!
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Liquid ICS doesn't have a working video camera...this will definately piss her off!
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Lol I forgot about that because I never use it.
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Also some people has had the camera to stop working also after while. Yeah sense is way different than touchwiz. You could look for a theme that mimics touchwiz.
You could download a launcher like HOLO, Go launcher and AWD (think thats what its called.) .
I will second the recommendation of Thundershed 1.6, which has been flawless since I flashed it (everything works, runs super fast and smooth, and battery life is way better than stock and most other custom ROMs). You do need to bear in mind that these are custom ROMs, meaning each is designed to reflect the priorities of the designer and involve a certain degree of risk (rooting and replacing the stock ROM invalidates warraty), but in my experience the custom ROMs I have used (only two: BAMF Son Of A Bliss aka SOAB 1.4; Thundershed 1.6) have been as stable (if not more stable) than the original Thunderbolt. Also keep in mind, *every* device is different and custom ROMs act differently on every device.
Those caveats in place, I'd research different custom ROMs, and how each can be customized with different launchers, lockscreens and themes, and try one or two out. The Sense-based ROMs will act more like the stock Thunderbolt. Sense based ROMs include SOAB, Skyraider Zeus, and BAMF Forever, and the AOSP ROMs include Thundershed, Liquid Smooth 3.2, and SFK's CM7 build. While everyone is excited about the new ICS custom ROMs they still seem pretty "BETA" (Santod's NuSense 3.6 seems furthest along) like and so I'd wait until all of the bugs are worked out and focus more on Gingerbread ROMs for your "daily driver."
Hope this helps.
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Hello all,
I was just wondering what your impressions were re, the most stable ROM out now, the one with the least issues. Is there one that seems to be most hassle-free? I'm not nessasarily looking for a lot of bells and whistles...
Thanks!
Used to enjoy Theory's ROMs but felt that every few weeks he'd discontinue a ROM and release a new one. If you want a sense ROM that has a good following, I'm gonna be taking a look at SynergyROM, or if you want a non-sense ROM (AKA AOSP) I'd go CM7 (CynergyMod 7).
I'm aosp fan personally. I've used Cyanogenmod extensively, as well as Omgb. I'm currently running TheROM V4 and it is rock solid stable and very responsive. Not many bells and whistles. Just vanilla gingerbread.
It depends on what you want aosp or sense
For me I'm an aosp girl I'm running cyanogenmod 7 v1.7 loving it and. Ill give the kernel I'm using for battery life
If I don't want aosp anymore I always go to. http://teambamf.net/
I love das bamf! or if not go to http://themikmik.com/forumdisplay.php?1004-HTC-Thunderbolt-Developer-Forum I personal really like chingy's roms
I don't like Droid theory just saying
If you like sense, I really like Chingy's Gingeritis 3D.
Second vote for Gingeritis 3D. Stable and great battery life if you just use better governors.
Definitely the wrong forum, bro.
been rocking cleantheory to shiftsense for the past two weeks. both have been rock solid. DT is stopping development though, so take it for whatever that means. i think at some point all ROMS eventually lose development. hopefully whatever you choose is good enough for your daily driver if you dont like flashing over and over.
ShiftS3ns3 by DroidTho3ry rocks - give it a shot.
I think I'm going to give Gingeritis 3D a try. I'm not a pro at flashing new ROMs... i've only done it once (running BAMF 1.3 now). Is there anything special I should do? Is it just like flashing the BAMF ROM? (can I do it from ROM Manager?)
Thanks!
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been rocking cleantheory to shiftsense for the past two weeks. both have been rock solid. DT is stopping development though, so take it for whatever that means. i think at some point all ROMS eventually lose development. hopefully whatever you choose is good enough for your daily driver if you dont like flashing over and over.
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DT mentioned that he's taking a break, so hopefully he won't be gone too long. His work is better than stock.. HTC ought to hire him and get out of his way.
If you want Sense ROM, can't go wrong with SkyRaider Preview 2 or ShiftS3NS3.
If you want AOSP based ROM, SHIFTAO5P hasn't given me any problems whatsoever.
If you can live without the 3d, skyraider preview 2 is rock solid.
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FWIW, I have been pretty pleased with the Synergy ROMs and I'd be running one now but...... I was one who fell victim to either the ROM Manager update or the CWM update and now cannot restore any of my backups. I tried various earlier CWMs w/o success and finally un-rooted, installed stock, did the OTA update and I'm back 100% stock.
I mention this because it's relevent to the question..... Battery life is good, the stability is excellent and, once customized to my liking, I really can't see much difference other than the "billions and billions" of crap apps VZW and HTC have added to the phone. If I could get rid of them I'd be just fine with the stock ROM believe it or not!
I'll probably re-root at some point and it's VERY likely I'll go back to the Synergy ROM because it works. I've had rebooting problems with other ROMs I've tried and I'm no longer in a mood to experiment, maybe later?
OK, it's later. I rooted, using Revolutionary, used Titanium backup to remove VZWs crapware and then figured why not? and installed the latest Synergy ROM.
I guess I just can't live with a non-rooted phone for 24 hours..... <sigh>
i keep trying out different roms all the time(sense & aosp based) and find that i'll keep going back to Synergy. it seems the most stable just i having issues with settling with just one rom.
Everyone has a different opinion on what stable is. I think CM7 is plenty stable, but there are those that disagree for whatever logical/illogical reason. Mainly, if you aren't prepared to encounter issues either brought up by your own experimenting or those of the ROM developer, I would stay with what the phone came with and be happy you have a phone that (sort of) works
If you are more brave, then read on.
If you read the comments about most ROMs, there is no such thing as a 100% infallible, will never ever let you down, stable ROM. ROMs are generally bleeding edge and users accept the fact they may have bugs in exchange for the phone doing more than what HTC and verizon allowed them to do. However, ignore most comments, because those are generally just people that screwed something up either knowingly or unknowingly. Like people that go the the hospital (for those that have family members that work at one), not everyone is ready to admit they did something stupid and have it on public display
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If you read the comments about most ROMs, there is no such thing as a 100% infallible, will never ever let you down, stable ROM.
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Skyraider with Ziggy's kernel is EXACTLY this. It has average to good battery life though. Everything works, including it being compatible with call recording and incredicontrol (voltage control app). It also has the notification tweaks that no one has quite duplicated and I have grown to love.
I find Synergy to be an excellent rom as well, but the themes available do not suit me at all. It does support everything with good battery life and also adds HTC Hub which is awesome. It also has DConfig, which I just have not gotten a great benefit from but I guess some might.
The theory sense rom was smooth as silk, and seemed to be a happy medium between the first two I posted.
Chingy's rom is VERY slick, but very vanilla. The fact that it is Odexed makes theming harder I think, but for me that means I cannot replace the HTC browser with the AOSP one, and I HATE THE SENSE BROWSER lol.
ALL AOSP roms seem to have squashed most of the crappy battery issues and get great battery life now. This added to a FAR FAR FAR better bluetooth stack for better use with wireless devices like Jawbone, AND compatability with PS3 hardware make them an awesome choice. The ONLY problem is the lack of reliable network location. This means google maps works perfect, but your web browser can and will put you across the world sometimes, as well as weather apps etc. This rules it out for me for now.
Hope that helps
Shifts3ns3 has been the best for me, while I liked synergy, it had more bugs and seemed much slower to me, shift has the useful 3.0 features without the slowdown of a full sense 3.0 rom
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I was wondering what you guys would say the most stable ics rom is??
Ive been using scotts senseless rom and its been ok just a few problems. before that i had his cleanrom but i just cant like sense that much something about it kinda turns me off..
what do you guys think?
ima add one more question to this thread.. Where i live my signal is finicky as it is but im thinking running ics has made my signal drop is this a problem or is it just me trippin out?
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ima add one more question to this thread.. Where i live my signal is finicky as it is but im thinking running ics has made my signal drop is this a problem or is it just me trippin out?
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I'm running CleanROM 2.3 completely desensed and it's as stable as Gingerbread.
yeah i was thinking about going back to it to many system ui crashes and other lil bugs in the aosp roms is it updated to the 4.0.3 with sense 3.6?
&& how is it desensed?
I really didn't like the battery life on cleanrom 2.x or desensed. I switched to cleanrom 1.6.5 and getting nice battery life.
I found Nils business sense ICS to be the most stable. But the small pluses of ICS didn't make the cut compared to the battery life and ease of use of Gingerbread. Especially once the new wore off. Back to CleanROM 1.6.5 for me too!
All of the ics roms have the same root issues really- that being blue screen flicker, etc. I'm on nils currently cause I like his out of the box notification mods.
Ics rules but I think may go back to gb (until an official) for some issues that are irking me. Vid chat doesn't work on skype, gchat, etc. Can't crop pics or do certain effects in the gallery. Beats eq is not working correctly. Again, most of these are probs that follow all of the ics roms and the devs have done a fantastic job -but I may just end up going back until these talented folks get their hands on an official build. I think they've reached a point where there's not a whole lot left to do with this current build. But like I said, what they've managed to do with this early build is damned amazing.
i flashed back to clean rom and desensed removed everything and so far it seems alot more stables im not getting any word that things are crashing even when making calls like it did before not to shabby i say plus the gallery from the camera i was having that problem in senslessrom
You guys running ICS, can someone confirm whether the folders are the new ICS folders like the Gnex has.
do you mean the folders in the launcher? then yes if you have the stock ics launcher
I'm loving Business-ICS
The skins, overall stability is pretty awesome. The one huge issue is battery life. On stock, I had it to where I could get at average just under 2 days of battery with my extended (2750mah) battery. With this ROM, with almost nothing running, and leaving the screen low-use, and LTE turned off, etc, I still can't get more than 6 hours at BEST on a full charge! Is anyone else seeing this? Do I need to look at flashing to a ziggy kernel or something? Or is it just part of the leaked ICS that the devs have to work from?
I was getting 10 hours on my stock battery running senseless ics rom with a hour of navigation and pandora on pretty much the whole time (lte disabled) +texting+ facebook and what ever else and i was left with more than 25 %
I've been using Scott's senseless since it was launched its an awesome rom but alot of fc's figured I'd try tachi's senseless 4.0 (which is based off one if Scott's roms) with the USB fix and HTC mms fix and runs super stable best senseless ics I've tried so far. Sounds like there are some pretty good rooms on the way though. Feel free to try them all out and find what you like best though.
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My personal favorites would have to be by NilsP, lllboredlll, and Scrosler. All are pretty stable roms.
I've been holding out on trying any roms, still on stock. Just the topic I need to follow here
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I've been using Scott's senseless since it was launched its an awesome rom but alot of fc's figured I'd try tachi's senseless 4.0 (which is based off one if Scott's roms) with the USB fix and HTC mms fix and runs super stable best senseless ics I've tried so far. Sounds like there are some pretty good rooms on the way though. Feel free to try them all out and find what you like best though.
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I must echo that Tachi's 4.0 rom is pretty good (with the fixes). I can't wait until we get a fully working AOSP rom. Scott's are good as well (the CleanROM 2.3 is actually a bit better than the Senseless, but... has Sense).
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The skins, overall stability is pretty awesome. The one huge issue is battery life. On stock, I had it to where I could get at average just under 2 days of battery with my extended (2750mah) battery. With this ROM, with almost nothing running, and leaving the screen low-use, and LTE turned off, etc, I still can't get more than 6 hours at BEST on a full charge! Is anyone else seeing this? Do I need to look at flashing to a ziggy kernel or something? Or is it just part of the leaked ICS that the devs have to work from?
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I do get worse battery life on ICS (running cleanrom 2.2sp1), but not that bad, I still get 10-16 hours before swapping extended batteries.
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do you mean the folders in the launcher? then yes if you have the stock ics launcher
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Yes, I'm talking about the launcher. When I had the GNex and I created a folder, it showed the icons stacked on top of each other rather than the plain folder that GB has. So the stock ICS launcher on the Rezound shows the icons like the GNex does? I'm asking because I was worried that Sense would not have that feature.
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Yes, I'm talking about the launcher. When I had the GNex and I created a folder, it showed the icons stacked on top of each other rather than the plain folder that GB has. So the stock ICS launcher on the Rezound shows the icons like the GNex does? I'm asking because I was worried that Sense would not have that feature.
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sense doesnt offer this but you can get the aosp launcher pretty easy theres desense scripts that you can run for ics that will give you all this
I think I might help
do not get ics all are unstable and i bricked my phone doing this well my friends extra phone I had to wipe the phone completely clen and starting over. I am downloading all roms tring to find something that works again. but like all post ineffabilis is the only one that comes close to restoreing the phone. I will update later to see if I can restore a dead phone but leave ics only until offical update.
I've tried most of the roms in the development section, and I'm not knocking the dev who are creating some great roms, but I keep coming back to the stock rom. What's so bad about keeping stock. I mean once the roms in the dev section get all the kinks worked out (mms), I'm sure I'll be going to them, but stock so far seems to work really well. My battery life is decent, and everything works. I do like the MUI rom though, just the mms issue, is keeping me from running it as a daily rom. Just thought, I'd give some props to the stock rom.
Its all personal preference. I personally cant stand blur it drives me nuts, CM9 and nearly ever other has working mms(-MIUI for now) and im a huge CM fan ever since I first flashed CM7. Whatever works best for your uses really.
i jus dont like stock roms at all. they have too much bloatware on them i think
My phone is laggy with the stock rom but Im not willing to lose 4G to run something else. Im just holding on till Sprint has a better phone and I can retire the Photon.
same for me. CM and MIUI jus run so much smoother
Maybe I need to try then newer versions out. I'm using launcher pro on my stock and it seems smooth
In my experience, on the Photon you do not need anything other than stock. Stock runs GREAT. Every custom ROM I have tried has issues.
However, most of my other Android phones really needed custom ROMs due to battery or other issues which hampered their performance.
The Photon is the rare phone that works fine as is.
IMO.
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Maybe I need to try then newer versions out. I'm using launcher pro on my stock and it seems smooth
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I like stock also but can't help myself cab use some market launchers also on Miui and cm9 just like stock
MIUI/ICS for the Photon
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1536161
Stock:
Laggy/choppy UI (this is a major sales killer. out of the box the lg optimus ui is faster/smoother)
Tons of mostly unused proprietary account services running in the background (BlurOrkut for example)
Mostly useless widgets (When most tap on a clock widget they want it to open the clock app. almost all of the blur widgets do nothing when you tap them)
If you replace the launcher, never use most of the blur services and use third party widgets then stock is a overweight and mostly useless. That being said, if you love blur and it's widgets, use most of those builtin account services then stock is the way to go.
Stock ROM completely lacks the ability to customize everything. Thats what I hate most about it.
I loaded Jokers skinnyV2, and wow, awesome. Fast, smooth and everything is working like stock. I think I found a new daily driver.
I bounce between stock and cm9 stock when I need 4g and cm9 when I want processing and better multi tasking. Not to mention cm9 has more features.
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At least once a week I feel convinced that I NEED 4G, camcorder, or mms, so I install one of the modified stock roms. This usually lasts about 30 minutes before I come to my senses and go back to an ICS rom. I've been using Joker's ICS builds since about the fourth day of owning my photon, and running any non ics rom just feels like putting lawn mower wheels on a Ferrari. Giving up a couple features that I would realistically use at most 10 minutes a week in exchange for an infinitely better user experience is a no brainer in my opinion.
I went back to stock about a month ago and could not be happier!!!! I have not had one single issue since (with exception of Sprints Network!) and the Photon is flawless!
BTW: I got butt naked too! OtterBox is off over by my desktop gaming computer I never use! Dont use my 2 laptops eithere. Nor my PS3. I gotta clean this place up!
I hated stock from day one. Its slow. I have tried just about every rom that the photon has to offer. My daily is between cm9 and MIUI. I just cant make up my mind because I like the fact that MIUI has lots of themes but cm9 is just awsome. Im about to try AOKP so ima jump off. cya
Thanks all for the replies. I think I'll try the newer cm9 and mui roms. So far I'm really liking the joker skinnyv2. I'm going to test out the cm9, mui today.
Personally, I think I, and most here, have a few issues.
#1. I rooted and unlocked it.
#2. I had 230+ apps, most I had no clue!
#3. I had 3 launchers i was bouncing back and forth.
#4. Damm thing kept freezing and I had to reboot several times a week!
#5. My Bluetooth headphones were iffy? (if thats a word!)
I put it back to stock, down to maybe 60 apps, stock UI! The 7 Panels with Stock UI I have configured with my most common apps, with screens for Business, Games, Communication, Shopping, my Social accounts.......
The speed, on 3G is amazing and I can quickly check my bank account, lottery, whatever. The only thing I have extra is Weather Toggle Widgit on home screen.
@ 4 or 5 years ago, I got into flashing/rooting/unlocking/ROM's because I wanted my phone to look/be different. With Stock Photon and some time, it is different! Besides, at the end of the day, bottom line is, I need a fully functional working phone!
JMO!
David Out!
I personally run CM7 and the reason being is that I like having the ability to customize every little detail on my phone and as far as I can tell it runs smoother then stock did for me. I will switch over to CM9 once they just get a one more kink worked out, I need to be able to watch Netflix so I'm waiting for the HW acceleration drivers to be added and then I'll be all in.
I just installed MIUI yesterday and from what I see its even MORE customizable than CM7 including three launchers and all the google apps built in. Its also based on ICS just like CM9 is.
being as im new to the photon but not new to droids ive flashed both cm7 and im currently running the latest build of cm9. that being said my phone runs so much smoother with these roms than i was stock. if it wasnt for the great devs we have for these phones and their persistent need to tweak everything i think the droid market would have crashed long ago. but it is personal preference but personally i like my phones to work 90% or more of the time, with stock i could never get the reliabilty like i could with roms.
Just curious what people think of the latest ROMs, what the fastest, smoothest, best looking are, etc...
Been using Scott's CleanROM ICS a lot and really like it, but was thinking to myself, that most of them seem to credit the same devs for various contributions and things... so in the end, are they all pretty much the same?
I know that if you ask a Dev they will say how theirs is different, but I would love to hear from end users who have used them all extensively, which ones they prefer and why.
I think that they are all great, but perhaps some are better in certain areas than others, and so a conversation that lays all that out might be beneficial to people who want to just to an ICS ROM, but don't know what one is right for them, and the "trial and error" process might be more than they are able to willing to tackle.
For reference, CM7 that I had on the DX is my all time favorite ROM, and it is the benchmark for me, so any ROM I go to, is to try and get as close to that experience as possible.
Thoughts?
Check out BAMF 1.1 ICS....
I've tried the others and this one has been the most stable, the most current version has great battery life as well.
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Check out BAMF 1.1 ICS....
I've tried the others and this one has been the most stable, the most current version has great battery life as well.
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Bamf is good. I also like Nils Business and Rezrom . Try them all out to see what you like.
Which one has the nicest eye candy, themes, etc?
They all seem fast and smooth, so I am sorta looking for the best UI.
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Which one has the nicest eye candy, themes, etc?
They all seem fast and smooth, so I am sorta looking for the best UI.
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Rezrom always has awesome themes. Nils too. Scotts roms are awesome but are closer to stock theme wise
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Rezrom always has awesome themes. Nils too. Scotts roms are awesome but are closer to stock theme wise
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Ok, cool, I will check that one out as well. Just ran a Nandroid backup so I guess I am ready to experiment. All of these latest versions are based off of the latest RUU, so I should not have to mess with that, or kernels for that matter, correct? Just the ROM itself, and if I don't like it, a simple Nandroid restore?
Of course I have to wipe data and cache before each install, but other than that, nothing else to do?
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Which one has the nicest eye candy, themes, etc?
They all seem fast and smooth, so I am sorta looking for the best UI.
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last i heard mike d is working on some kicka$$ themes and a ics dialer. he hasn't released them yet though.
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last i heard mike d is working on some kicka$$ themes and a ics dialer. he hasn't released them yet though.
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Cool. I am trying RezROM 3.1 right now and I do like the UI and theming, and it appears that version 3.2 is about to drop, if I read the thread correctly...
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Of course I have to wipe data and cache before each install, but other than that, nothing else to do?
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Nope. They all use the same kernel I think because kernel source isn't out. Just nandroid.
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I'm running RezROM and loving it. One of the best things about the Rezound is the list of developers. Whether it's Bored, Nils, or Scott, their ROMS are rock solid and well-supported. Other devs are excellent, too, but these 3 are the ones I look to first.
ive been running Rezrom 3.1 on old firmware with the patch and it seems very nice. only small issue ive has was it seems like ringtones want to go off the media volume and not the ringtone volume setting but i think that is being worked on for the next version.
my only concern on the current wave of roms would be whether it could run on old firmware or not.
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ive been running Rezrom 3.1 on old firmware with the patch and it seems very nice. only small issue ive has was it seems like ringtones want to go off the media volume and not the ringtone volume setting but i think that is being worked on for the next version.
my only concern on the current wave of roms would be whether it could run on old firmware or not.
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I would assume that patching the new ROMs to run on the old firmware will be phased out. It will probably be around for a little while to make it easy for those who may want to go back to GB. Since the new ICS ROMs are pretty much rock solid the only real reason anyone would want to do that is for returning their phone though. Once the official OTA comes I'm sure noone will be making the patches any more. I could be wrong though.
I kinda hope they keep making patches personally, I for one, have had no rush to get the leaked firmware, unless a ROM blows me off my feet that requires it, none have yet.
I've got a feeling that once the AOSP ROMs are working properly they will probably be built around the new firmware. The battery life improvement was worth the 20 minutes or so to do the flash for me. I assume with the patch to run the old firmware with the new ROMs the data arrows are working? Kind of a small thing, but sure is nice to have them back. LOL
Cleanrom DE is pretty nice, has an aosp feel but still has some sense parts, seems pretty smooth but I can never get any of the ics launchers as smooth as sense was
They are all great!!!
Personally I don't like running non official firmware. When HTC releases the official firmware we are probably going to have to go through the entire process again anyways. Also if HTC doesnt deem it fit for official release then i am not using it unless I am having a major issue that needs to be fixed. I wonder if the New firmware would fix my ics performance issues though
I am running ICS now as a daily driver on the old firmware. It is still a tad slower than gb performance wise for me. I have gone back and forth a couple times. I can see why people would want to stay on old firmware or gb til official ics is release. Hopefully ics performs a little better when it becomes official.
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I used to love Sense, but as time has gone on I've grown kind of sick of it, plus it takes a heavy toll on the battery and resources. So now I've been looking for something closer to AOSP. The first ROM I used was Xtreme Outcast's ROM. It was slightly themed and close to AOSP. He hasn't updated in a while so I've tried scrosler's CleanROM DE, because he's on the newest leak, and so far I really like it. It's got some Sense elements, which I still have mixed feelings on, but it's really smooth, and has improved my battery life loads.
I am still using the original ICS leak based off 4.0.1. I have put so much time into it, and have it running so nearly perfectly that I am hesitant to even bother with the more recent leaks and will probably just hold off until official ICS is out or until AOSP RIL is working.
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have it running so nearly perfectly that I am hesitant to even bother with the more recent leaks and will probably just hold off until official ICS is out or until AOSP RIL is working.
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My thoughts exactly, my setup is working completely stable so I have no issue to change until a similar situation.
With a buddy. I have stock gb 2.3.4. I dont like radical change but would like to add speed, teathering, batt life & keep the use of the camara. To confused with all the roms out there. What is going to be a simple....wont stray too far away from Sence rom to get me started. Thx
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ddemara said:
With a buddy. I have stock gb 2.3.4. I dont like radical change but would like to add speed, teathering, batt life & keep the use of the camara. To confused with all the roms out there. What is going to be a simple....wont stray too far away from Sence rom to get me started. Thx
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IMO Sense sucks ass and whenever you switch to an AOSP based rom you will never want to go back to sense. I've been using the latestet builds of the ICS rom which works...kinda but you may want to stay away from it if you are not to fimarlier with flashing roms and such.
I would install this ROM if I were you: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13354-cust-thundershed-v16-cm72-ics-ish-june-4/
I ran that rom for months and loved it, much faster then stock, more features and better battery life when used with IMO's leans kernal found here: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1258-kernel-aosp-leankernel-minimalistic-kernel-v621-52012/
I'd say something BAMF. SkyRaider maybe. I personally love Sense. I love the widgets, mainly the picture album widget.
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IMO Sense sucks ass and whenever you switch to an AOSP based rom you will never want to go back to sense. I've been using the latestet builds of the ICS rom which works...kinda but you may want to stay away from it if you are not to fimarlier with flashing roms and such.
I would install this ROM if I were you: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13354-cust-thundershed-v16-cm72-ics-ish-june-4/
I ran that rom for months and loved it, much faster then stock, more features and better battery life when used with IMO's leans kernal found here: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1258-kernel-aosp-leankernel-minimalistic-kernel-v621-52012/
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Once I switched to asop I will never go back to sense
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I'd agree with the skyraider suggestion if you are new to this and want to stay close to what you have now. Use that and once setup make a backup, then you cam experiment with others til you find what you like and you'll always have the backup to restore if you don't like what you are trying out. I'd definitely give worksheds cm build a run as well to check out the aosp side and decide if its for you. He is an excellent dev and I personally have had the privilege to use his work when he first started and he played a big part in getting me started as well. You can't go wrong with either of those builds.
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I'd agree with the skyraider suggestion if you are new to this and want to stay close to what you have now. Use that and once setup make a backup, then you cam experiment with others til you find what you like and you'll always have the backup to restore if you don't like what you are trying out. I'd definitely give worksheds cm build a run as well to check out the aosp side and decide if its for you. He is an excellent dev and I personally have had the privilege to use his work when he first started and he played a big part in getting me started as well. You can't go wrong with either of those builds.
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I agree with the recommendations. Of the Sense based ROMs SkyRaider and Son of a Bliss (SOAB) are the best. The best AOSP ROMs are ThunderShed (what this poster refers to as "WorkShed's CM build") and SFK's CM7 build (it is based on ThunderShed). I have tried the newer ROMs based on the ICS leak and while it is cool to think you are getting ICS on your phone the kernels are not ICS and so there are small issues that seem to pop up. Santod's NuSense is perhaps the most stable and best looking of these if you want to investigate.
Most people find that every phone is different and what works best on my phone isn't necessarily what works best on yours. Add to that, different kernels and radios work better on individual phones. So while starting with a recommended combination (eg, ThunderShed, using Zoom kernel and .9 radio works well on my phone), you may find a different combination works best of yours. So prepare to try out different ROMs, with different kernels, and different radios. Part of the fun, in fact, is trying them out. Good luck.
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I agree with the recommendations. Of the Sense based ROMs SkyRaider and Son of a Bliss (SOAB) are the best. The best AOSP ROMs are ThunderShed (what this poster refers to as "WorkShed's CM build") and SFK's CM7 build (it is based on ThunderShed). I have tried the newer ROMs based on the ICS leak and while it is cool to think you are getting ICS on your phone the kernels are not ICS and so there are small issues that seem to pop up. Santod's NuSense is perhaps the most stable and best looking of these if you want to investigate.
Most people find that every phone is different and what works best on my phone isn't necessarily what works best on yours. Add to that, different kernels and radios work better on individual phones. So while starting with a recommended combination (eg, ThunderShed, using Zoom kernel and .9 radio works well on my phone), you may find a different combination works best of yours. So prepare to try out different ROMs, with different kernels, and different radios. Part of the fun, in fact, is trying them out. Good luck.
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So prepare to try out different ROMs, with different kernels, and different radios. Part of the fun, in fact, is trying them out. Good luck.
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I agree! I'm trying to decide what features I like most. It's good to try different ROMs to see just that.
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I agree! I'm trying to decide what features I like most. It's good to try different ROMs to see just that.
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if you want to go the cyanogenmod route, use CM7.1.1 unofficial for the thunderbolt. its lying around this forum somewhere, CM7 uses android open source (AOSP for short) and it installs with only 88+MB of data, leaving LOTS of room. talk to me about how to majorly speed up the phone as i have and you will not regret it. i have used cm7.1, plus other tweaks involving sd-ext and cache boosts to speed up this phone 300%.using sense roms is nice, but if you want speed long term, then dont use sense. it clogs the memory with extra visuals that just arent needed.