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So i decided i wanted the new radio 3.39.10 so i flashed the leaked sprint rom. Didn't have enough time so I just kept it on my phone for a few days. One thing i noticed with this rom was everything was QUICK. Even icontact was smooth with no lagging or jittery scrolling. I also noticed memory consumption over a days time was very minimal. I would not be under 20mb free after an entire day.
That said, I've always liked dcd's roms and they always seemed faster than sprint roms. So i decided to flash to his newest 3.1.6. At first boot I had 25mb free compared to 22mb free with sprints. That was a plus, but i also noticed with the same applications installed on both that icontact was not smooth on scrolling anymore and my memory usage throughout the day would drop under 20mb easily.
Is it just me or does it seem like the sprint 3.49 rom has graphics acceleration and better memory management?
It's not just you..
everything runs faster on 3.49. Apps respond quicker and fewer hang ups and lock ups as well...
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It's not just you..
everything runs faster on 3.49. Apps respond quicker and fewer hang ups and lock ups as well...
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HMMM
Can someone comfirm this?
do some research?
Wow....just wow...
For Test Not For Sale
I installed the leaked Sprint ROM, and I did not have time to test it because I like DCD ROMS, so I tried 3.1.6, but it was not a good experience for me. I kept loosing and gaining signals, at some points it will not get the signal at all.
Till the day it just did not, and all my contacts were erased and my soft keys stopped working. So I reverted back to 3.04 which for me has been the most stable for me, with NO PROBLEM.
But please I have a problem, ever since I tried that Leaked Rom, and Flashed back to DCD 3.0.4, I get the message "FOR TEST NOT FOR SALE" at boot up. How do I get this message off please. I hate seeing that. I have flashed 3 times and it is still there
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I installed the leaked Sprint ROM, and I did not have time to test it because I like DCD ROMS, so I tried 3.1.6, but it was not a good experience for me. I kept loosing and gaining signals, at some points it will not get the signal at all.
Till the day it just did not, and all my contacts were erased and my soft keys stopped working. So I reverted back to 3.04 which for me has been the most stable for me, with NO PROBLEM.
But please I have a problem, ever since I tried that Leaked Rom, and Flashed back to DCD 3.0.4, I get the message "FOR TEST NOT FOR SALE" at boot up. How do I get this message off please. I hate seeing that. I have flashed 3 times and it is still there
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Need to change bootsplash images
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399925
gc14 said:
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Why? Is it no longer ok to compare roms?
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Why? Is it no longer ok to compare roms?
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I'll chime in here too
The newest Sprint rom does seem much faster, I'm not sure if there is a pool size diff or what, but they take about the same ammount of time to boot up, and give or take a meg or two, about the same free mem.. The Sprint rom has a bunch of ugly sprint crap and themes(easily changed) but there is something to be said with having a nice new clean rom. Unfortunatly, I wouldn't use the 3.1.6, it seems to have too many issues with cell sig.... I was happiest on a rom called "________ Sexier Rom" But it had issues w/ AS. So right now, I'm sitting with the Sprint rom again.
You guys never cease to amaze me...
I don't know what probs you guys are having with 3.1.6. but everything works fine for me that sprint rom don't have no pizzaz!
gc14.....add some insight to this if you do not think its true. I'm going by actual usage though and have yet to have a rom as fast as the new sprint one.
gc14.....add some insight to this if you do not think its true. I'm going by actual usage though and have yet to have a rom as fast as the new sprint one.
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This thread should be closed because everything said in it is moot. Since 3.1.1, these roms have been based off 3.49 and cleaned. Any differences are simply placebo.
well someone's acting a bit smug, aren't they.
gc14, many things go into DCD building a custom rom, often much more than just "cleaning up" a leaked rom. He's been in there in the XIP tinkering about which can cause night and day differences as far as performance and free memory from the "stock" leaked Sprint rom.
I'm not agreeing with anyone here (I haven't compared the two roms, right now testing some of no2chem's direct draw from the diamond support), however I felt the need to point out that your comments are neither helpful nor properly informed.
Unless you've conducted a test and posted your own thread about it that we don't know about, I'd write off your comments as mere speculation.
Someone asked for my insight...I gave it to them, period.
I know exactly what goes into building a custom rom. I didn't feel the need to go into all of it in this thread. As far as "tinkering in the XIP" goes, well, we'll just leave it at that.
Don't ask for me to post what I think, then get all bent out of shape when I post the truth. I won't say anything else about it, though trust me, my "speculation" isn't coming from nowhere and is very well informed.
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Someone asked for my insight...I gave it to them, period.
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Actually, you were technically asked to explain your cryptic condescending one liners.
You started with "You never cease to amaze me" and "This thread should be closed", without any explanation as if this was the memory leak, bluetooth, or some other bug that already have a million threads dedicated to it.
These are legitimate concerns that whether are placebo or not, deserve to be discussed and analyzed if people are noticing it.
Don't ask for me to post what I think, then get all bent out of shape when I post the truth. I won't say anything else about it, though trust me, my "speculation" isn't coming from nowhere and is very well informed.
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Once again, you sort of forced them to ask what you think by posting usless condescending drivel. Don't be a jerk and then get bent out of shape when its pointed out publicly.
I know exactly what goes into building a custom rom. I didn't feel the need to go into all of it in this thread.
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Really? Because if you're saying that nothing has changed from 3.1.1, I really don't think you do. Do you even know what the XIP is, or what changing components into modules means?
I haven't posted in XDA much lately, so I'll give you the benefit of thinking I'm a n00b. Since it appears we haven't met, I'll assume you also didn't know that dcd and I go back to before he was releasing roms, and we've kept in touch behind the scenes, often part of a group that gets to test and debug before he releases new ones. Dcd has told me what he's done to these releases, and I can honestly say that he's changed it enough to barely resemble the leaked rom, far less match its performance verbatim.
Your comments are not only baseless, but juvenile.
I recommend that you control your sarcastic tone and don't post unless it is somehow constructive to the thread. Otherwise, you're going to piss off some people who won't want to help you when the time comes.
As far as whether or not this is true (dcd's being slower than leaked "stock"), I don't know since I haven't performed any tests. It is possible that something he's tweaked to free up memory has effected performance elsewhere in the rom (similar things have happened in earlier roms). The drivers should be similar, however, so its most likely not an acceleration issue.
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I haven't posted in XDA much lately, so I'll give you the benefit of thinking I'm a n00b. Since it appears we haven't met, I'll assume you also didn't know that dcd and I go back...
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The greatly ironic thing is, Dishe, you not knowing the background and direct involvement of the other you are attempting to knock down.
Dishe, I strongly suggest you to avoid a personal pissing fest with the posturing of you being better than another.
If you feel differently about a position then stick to the core of the topic rather than devolve into a battle of egos and calling another member a "jerk.".
....just my 2 cents.
..but to add, I knew exactly what GC was inferring with his comment on the previous page.
Really? Because if you're saying that nothing has changed from 3.1.1, I really don't think you do. Do you even know what the XIP is, or what changing components into modules means?
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If I didn't know what the XIP is, or what modules were, I wouldn't have said I know what goes into building a custom rom now would I?
I also never said that nothing has changed from 3.1.1.
I haven't posted in XDA much lately, so I'll give you the benefit of thinking I'm a n00b. Since it appears we haven't met, I'll assume you also didn't know that dcd and I go back to before he was releasing roms, and we've kept in touch behind the scenes, often part of a group that gets to test and debug before he releases new ones.
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I never once thought you were a n00b, nor questioned your relationship with dcd. I'll give YOU the benefit of thinking I don't know what I'm talking about. I know all about the group, being part of it and all, hence how I know exactly what has been changed and what hasn't, as I personally tested 3.1.2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.
Dcd has told me what he's done to these releases, and I can honestly say that he's changed it enough to barely resemble the leaked rom, far less match its performance verbatim.
Your comments are not only baseless, but juvenile.
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I wouldn't say barely resemble the leaked rom.
However, I can say that my comments are not baseless.
Key, I agree 100%
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there could be a slight difference due to cache sizes. people wanted more free ram, so i reduced cache. this reduces speed (but i didnt think it was noticable personally)
i did benchmark the 3.35 oemxipkernel vs 3.49 and found that 3.35 was actually a tiny bit faster, so i'm still using it.
there could be a slight difference due to cache sizes. people wanted more free ram, so i reduced cache. this reduces speed (but i didnt think it was noticable personally)
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Yeah, that was the first question you asked me during testing, whether or not speed was reduced due to the cache changes. I didn't notice any difference either.
Ever since I flashed EB01 I have been having problems with screen responsiveness, It will seem to work fine then after awhile will work selectively.
When I had voodoo installed, it started to do it I was running superclean 2.4
I flashed today back to EB01 Stock rooted non-voodoo, was still seeing it after awhile.
I also just flashed MIUI to play with today, and still am seeing it.
Baseband. EB01
Kernel: 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #1
I have the same problem, with any ROM that is not an official ROM from Verizon. It seems to be happening as soon as I root it. It is intermittent and locking and then unlocking the screen fixes it.
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Mine works fine.
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Ever since I flashed EB01 I have been having problems with screen responsiveness, It will seem to work fine then after awhile will work selectively.
When I had voodoo installed, it started to do it I was running superclean 2.4
I flashed today back to EB01 Stock rooted non-voodoo, was still seeing it after awhile.
I also just flashed MIUI to play with today, and still am seeing it.
Baseband. EB01
Kernel: 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #1
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First...post questions in general. Second did you wipe data prior to instal?
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And what was the purpose of your response in this thread?
What launcher are you using? I had this problem and switched launchers from Zeam back to Launcher Pro, when I did that, all my lag issues with screen responsiveness were fixed.
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And what was the purpose of your response in this thread?
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Same as yours pointing his out. Seriously many people here need to take a chill pill. In all reality his did help as it shows that he does not have the problem. The more people that have the problem the bigger it is. This helps weed it out.
I had this problem last night trying to press the h key. I am running SC 2.4
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happens to me also. I wonder why it dosnt happen to everyone??? And yes, i wiped and flashed.
Happens to me too. Seems to get worse with time. I was running superclean but flashed back to stock because the responsiveness got so bad my phone wasn't really usable. Happening again with debloated froyo too
It's happened to me on every Froyo ROM, even vanilla on occasion. It's probably just Samsung's ****ty kernel and so there's nothing much that can be done until there's source to work with.
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I think I might have found a solution. I went into stock recovery and wiped cache. After a reboot I no longer have the responsiveness issues.
Edit: unfortunately I still have the unresponsiveness issues...seems it was temporary fix. Also, it is always the middle of my screen from top to bottom which becomes unresponsive. How about the rest of you guys?
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Same as yours pointing his out. Seriously many people here need to take a chill pill. In all reality his did help as it shows that he does not have the problem. The more people that have the problem the bigger it is. This helps weed it out.
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His post contributed nothing as it provided no useful information to the op. He's looking for an ans...who cares if it worked for him. If that's the case we would have over a hundred posts pop up in here saying "mine works". If that's what you're going to say then at least provide some information the op cam use.
I too have been perplexed with this problem. Posted up in general but no solution has been found. I usually get so annoyed I go back to eclair for a while till I get ambitious enough to try again.
I will also point out that I loose all screen sensitivity when the charger is plugged in. Yes, stock charger and does not do this at all on eclair.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957150
My phone and girls phone do this, mine is on sc2.4, hers is on sc2.2.
Its only slightly annoying at the moment for me, but she texts a lot and complains about the keyboard not working all the time.
The only unresponsiveness that I've noticed is that when I need to end a call, I find that I frequently have to tap "End" multiple times.
I'm also running Beautiful Widgets, so I assumed that that might have something to do with it.
Since BW requires an extra screen tap when coming out of a locked screen, I was assuming it was just a bug with the widget until I saw these posts.
Ok look if your useing set cpu and you set it to on demand your going to see lag but if you have this app and set it to conservative you will not have lag. If you are useing this app this will help you if thats your prob. If not them I suggest you DL'ed it to help your over all speed. I'm useing go launcher ex. Also as a side note I don't have any prob with my phone.
hmmmmmmmmm
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Ok look if your useing set cpu and you set it to on demand your going to see lag but if you have this app and set it to conservative you will not have lag. If you are useing this app this will help you if thats your prob. If not them I suggest you DL'ed it to help your over all speed. I'm useing go launcher ex. Also as a side note I don't have any prob with my phone.
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That's a great point. I never thought of that but I had also been noticing some lag while set cpu was set to on demand. Switched to conservative and did seem to notice a difference. Thanks.
I've always had SetCPU on conservative, 1GHz max and 200MHz min. Maybe I don't see it as much as you all say but it's enough for me to notice.
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I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
* please note voodoo is not enabled, if you have voodoo, disable it before flashing if you don't odin back to jfd first.
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
Question remains, is voodoo necessary?
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I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
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Good question! I was actually wondering this the other day. I tried a few different ROMs without lagfix.
I was wondering the same thing about it. "Is lagfix just a workaround to cheat higher quadrant scores?"
After a day or so on any ROM I tried without lagfix you would notice a slow down mainly in shutting down programs. Sometimes they would take up to 5 seconds to close! Opening programs slowed some but not nearly as noticeable. The dialer would take some time to open as well.
So in my experience lagfix seems to speed the phone in read/write capabilities. Which I imagine is what it was desinged for. You notice in Quadrant, that is where the most improvement is (In I/O).
So if you arent a real big phone geek (like most of us probably are) then the lagfix shouldnt make a huge difference to you. But, for me, I like my phone to fly doing anything. So lagfix enabled here!
It's not all about the speed. Its good to have a standard. This phone should've been on ext4 from the start. Supercurio has done a great job getting everyone switched over. I don't believe rfs is supported in cwm3+ either.
Just my opinion. I always use it. If I flash something else its an easy fix. Just flash an ext4 compatible kernel!
Edit:
I just reread your post, and I've never had a problem restoring backups. In fact, I flashed to an i9k Gingerbread ROM this morning, played around with it for a while (read: smashed my face against the gps), flashed a Froyo kernel and restored my nandroid without ever using ODIN or RFS
rfs = sux ballz (wen i first got my phone and started rooting one of the first things out of my mouth was wtf is rfs!)
ext4 = ahh, thats btr
I agree that stock felt oddly similar with voodoo enabled and disabled when i tried it for a day yesterday.
I disagree that you cant restore nandroids with CwMRecovery. For me it seems like its hit and miss which i'm gonna continue to test.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13284392#post13284392
Don't get me wrong....
Like I said, I love Voodoo.. I've only considered EXT4 and it is my preference... thought I made that clear.
BUT, I have not noticed any difference with it vs. using jellette's ROM, and that is really surprising to me. I know it can tend to "slow down" over time (which I do not understand why).. but changing from app to app I am noticing no difference.
Regarding restoring backups....
I said that because the man himself made THIS COMMENT just yesterday. I have had issues in the past (5 x maybe) where a restore failed, never knowing why. I've also had them restore fine, not sure why the difference.
s15274n said:
I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
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Thanks for the info on Jelletts ROM. I am definitely going to try it out. I don't know about voodoo will test your theory for myself but kudos to Supercurio and the wonders he has made for us in the mean time.
I hear ya bro. Im not trying to ruffle any feathers here and yeah I saw u an koush tryin ta figure it out last night. Just thought i'd post my half and half results is all since I confirmed MD5 mismatch on one restore but an all good restore directly after and both with voodoo enabled which was posted as a possible problem. Didn't mean to sound as if I were putting werdz in ur mouth tho if I did. Just tryina help a brotha out!=)
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I hear ya bro. Im not trying to ruffle any feathers here and yeah I saw u an koush tryin ta figure it out last night. Just thought i'd post my half and half results is all since I confirmed MD5 mismatch on one restore but an all good restore directly after and both with voodoo enabled which was posted as a possible problem. Didn't mean to sound as if I were putting werdz in ur mouth tho if I did. Just tryina help a brotha out!=)
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I understood you perfectly.. just didn't want others to think I was trying to say something I was not. Thanks man.
Talked to Ben Buchacher, you know the creator of SuperD.
I asked him what ROM and if he had lagfix.
He said he was using stock 2.2 and no lagfix, the lag went away in 2.2
PS he said TW ROMs weren't great.
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Wait, does Ben have a Vibrant?
He made THE rom for the G1. I could still run super d on my g1 and tolerate it.
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Wait, does Ben have a Vibrant?
He made THE rom for the G1. I could still run super d on my g1 and tolerate it.
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Yea! A long time ago.
He is waiting for cm7 to get stable to start working
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Dude, that makes me so freaking happy. Is there a reason he is not gracing us on XDA.. I loved that guy back in the day.
You keep saying your using his rom, but which one are you referring to in hist thread? there is a 2.2.1 and a 2.2
I tried the 2.2 and it was laggy like the stock 2.2 and I have taken my phone all the way back to closed box and brought it up to 2.2(KB5) and there is always lag there. I don't mind Touchwiz but when a couple weeks go by and my phone starts crawling across the ground like a drunken sailor it gets a little aggravating.
Basically in my experience any rom, and I mean any, with or without voodoo runs great for a few weeks, but then the slowness comes back and you start to notice apps taking longer to open and close, MMS really starts to lag as well as the keyboard when typing. the gallery really takes a hit and showing pictures off on my 500 dollar 1Ghz phone becomes embarrassing. So with or without voodoo stock 2.2 on the Vibrant seems to run great but runs out of gas in a few weeks, some may last a month. 2.2.1(sucks with no Wifi calling) seems to keep going much better, and the browser is faster. So if your running 2.2.1 of his then yea you might see a better faster rom, but if you run his 2.2 I bet after a few weeks of regular use you will start seeing lag and get frustrated. And I bet even the 2.2.1 will start to crawl at some point.
Now I'm not dissing his rom or anyone else's. They are all based off of the crap the Samsung shoved out the door and yea a few tweaks here and there help, but every rom always seems to start crawling at some point and nothing seems to bring it back to day one other then reflashing.
Well, I guess once it's been out for a few weeks I will let you know. I am taking one of our best developers word on this matter though. I'm not saying I am right.. just pointing out someone smarter than me says so, and after using it for a few days I have to agree... so far.
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Well, I guess once it's been out for a few weeks I will let you know. I am taking one of our best developers word on this matter though. I'm not saying I am right.. just pointing out someone smarter than me says so, and after using it for a few days I have to agree... so far.
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which rom are you running the 2.2.1 or 2.2
The only thing really keeping me on 2.2 roms is wifi calling.
I'm on 2.2.
The rom is not perfect, but it works very well for me so far. I went to cut on my screen and it was stuck at all black (buttons would lite up) so I just held in power to reboot.... first time I've noticed ANY issue with this rom. Odd, I think it had something to do with me going crazy backing out of the browser and then shutting down my screen.
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I'm on 2.2.
The rom is not perfect, but it works very well for me so far. I went to cut on my screen and it was stuck at all black (buttons would lite up) so I just held in power to reboot.... first time I've noticed ANY issue with this rom. Odd, I think it had something to do with me going crazy backing out of the browser and then shutting down my screen.
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I have gotten that on quite a few roms including two versions of trigger and three stock builds. I get out of it by pressing the power button 3-5 times giving about 1-2 seconds between presses and it eventually came back.
I might try the 2.2 build out eventually.
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Dude, that makes me so freaking happy. Is there a reason he is not gracing us on XDA.. I loved that guy back in the day.
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He is waiting for CM to be a better build than right now. He wont work with a TouchWiz base.
I loled when I asked him why he wasn't using a custom rom from TW and he said it sucked!
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He is waiting for CM to be a better build than right now. He wont work with a TouchWiz base.
I loled when I asked him why he wasn't using a custom rom from TW and he said it sucked!
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I'm not a fan of putting anyones work down.. especially when it's free/
I once knew a dog by the name of Raphael Francisco Sanchez. He pooped in the same place everyday, and then walked through it like the dumb mutt he was. Over time the poop built up till eventually the dog could no longer run and play with all the other little doggies, and when the lawnmower came around that spring, Raphael Francisco Sanchez barked his last bark.
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Which ROM should meet these requirements:
1. Will get a GPS fix quickly every time.
2. Good battery life.
3. Fast 4G LTE.
4. Market works fully.
5. Relatively bug free.
6. Still supported by developer.
7. Has decent install instructions - I have not installed a ROM on the Thunderbolt yet, and compared to my OGD, it seems more complex (e.g., flash a radio separately).
8. As little Sense as possible. (None would be ideal.)
9. USB tethering is rock solid reliable.
10. Gingerbread 2.3.4 (so Google Talk video works)
I initially wanted an AOSP ROM, but it seems like Sense-based ROM are working better. Is this true?
I just rooted and I want to install a custom ROM right now. Waiting impatiently for responses. hehe
Omfgb?
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Omfgb?
Sent from my TBolt using my f***king thumbs...
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It says, "An work in progress to bring working 4G to Gingerbread AOSP. Only available for Froyo MR1 radio."
That doesn't sound good to me... however, I admit that I don't know the details about the radios. I just assumed MR2 or MR2.5 would be an improvement. I'm not very happy with the stock Froyo radio (or GPS or battery life or anything else really).
Th3ory roms have been my favorite since his introduction, everything you're looking for. Try out the tester coming tonight, or wait a day for the release. Rediculous amount of dev support.
Re: usb tethering: i use easytether lite without a hitch.
greenjeans said:
Th3ory roms have been my favorite since his introduction, everything you're looking for. Try out the tester coming tonight, or wait a day for the release. Rediculous amount of dev support.
Re: usb tethering: i use easytether lite without a hitch.
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Thank you. I've been reading a lot of different threads and I was getting the impression that Th3ory roms are really good and the support is great.
What about INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01 (SenseLESS)?
Regarding "the tester coming tonight" are you talking about this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186218
I was concerned about the market problems discussed in that thread. I know there are two different resolutions for market problems, but I got the feeling that this tester ROM is too bleeding edge for my first Thunderbolt ROM.
In reference to my list of important features in the OP, what advantages does the tester ROM have over INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01?
I'll go ahead and put in my 2 cents and suggest CM7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049542
Be sure that you flash the MR2 OTA radio and you'll be fine and dandy.
tflogic said:
I'll go ahead and put in my 2 cents and suggest CM7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049542
Be sure that you flash the MR2 OTA radio and you'll be fine and dandy.
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So if I flash the MR2 radio, I don't have to worry about the CM7 4G problems mentioned in various places such as this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057757
EDIT: ooops, the known issues listed rule this ROM out for me:
**Known Issues**
-Possible Data/Voice bugs and issues.
-gps slow to get locks
Looks like INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01 is still the favorite.
I just installed INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01.
It is sync'ing at the moment. I haven't really used it yet, except to go through the steps to add my google account, etc.
MountainX said:
So if I flash the MR2 radio, I don't have to worry about the CM7 4G problems mentioned in various places such as this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057757
EDIT: ooops, the known issues listed rule this ROM out for me:
**Known Issues**
-Possible Data/Voice bugs and issues.
-gps slow to get locks
Looks like INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01 is still the favorite.
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That thread is 3 months ago dated. Current release, RC 1.4, has none of those problems.
tflogic said:
That thread is 3 months ago dated. Current release, RC 1.4, has known of those problems.
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you mean it has none of those problems?
I already flashed INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01, so we'll see how that goes. If it doesn't work out for me, I am interested in either das BAMF or CM 7.1.
haha yes! sorry for the typo. i'd suggest going ahead and flashing those other 2 ROMs when you get the chance to whether you like injectedtheory or not. one might suit your preferences more than another.
I was just making fun of threads like this in another post.
I've read these threads, tried most of them people swear by, didn't like most of them... And I'm back to my daily driver as usual. Every ROM has it's quirks. It's just a matter of what you're going to tolerate. Frankly, I don't know how people stand AOSP. My girlfriend loves it and I hate even touching that phone now. I've got this sexy 3D ROM that flows like water and it's literally 4.5 times the size. I'm just saying that if I posted this exact same thread, I'd find every single answer pretty much useless. Whatever you do, don't do a nightly.
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I was just making fun of threads like this in another post.
I've read these threads, tried most of them people swear by, didn't like most of them... And I'm back to my daily driver as usual. Every ROM has it's quirks. It's just a matter of what you're going to tolerate. Frankly, I don't know how people stand AOSP. My girlfriend loves it and I hate even touching that phone now. I've got this sexy 3D ROM that flows like water and it's literally 4.5 times the size. I'm just saying that if I posted this exact same thread, I'd find every single answer pretty much useless. Whatever you do, don't do a nightly.
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The answers were not useless at all. The conversation helped me. But you notice that I didn't just ask a generic question. In the OP listed specific features that were important to me.
BTW, I only like ASOP ROMS as a rule, but I learned from this forum that Sense-based ROMs give less trouble on the Thunderbolt. If that wasn't true I would have stuck totally to ASOP.
Inject is great, and I do believe satisfies all of your bullets, except for dev support.
The only issue I had with th3ory's tester10 was purchasing market apps. Flashing tester 37 in a minute...
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Inject is great, and I do believe satisfies all of your bullets, except for dev support.
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Thanks for that feedback. It was one of the first ROMs I looked at and I initially rejected it because Th3ory had moved on the the tester ROM and I do value active dev support.
But the potential market issues with tester10 concerned me more. So I came back to Inject. It's nice to hear your confirmation that it will probably satisfy most of my bullet points.
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The only issue I had with th3ory's tester10 was purchasing market apps. Flashing tester 37 in a minute...
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I'm going to keep following the tester thread. Now that I have installed my first Thunderbolt ROM, next time I might be ready for something a bit more challenging (but I still want a stable ROM I can use for all my daily needs).
Thanks again.
Are you guys noticing that a lot of the custom ROMs out now are pretty buggy? I have tried about 10 ROMs in the last two weeks, and usually they seem great at first. Eventually weird things start happening, like sluggish rotation behavior, or random reboots. Sometimes MMS messages will not send, sometimes texts get hung up and I have to delete all my threads... I've had my phone freeze while sleeping, and missed alarms. I find myself flashing a ROM almost every other day, because it seems that I don't notice a huge problem until it has a day to settle on my phone. One problem that really annoys me is that in the Gallery app, on some ROMs, when you rotate the phone, the picture flys off the screen for a second or so, then re-centers itself. In general I've had issues with 3G/1X, and sometimes even calls being sent to voicemail without ringing. I also notice that from one ROM to the next, battery life can be dramatically different, despite having the same exact settings.
When I had my un-rooted Evo 3D, I had barely any of those problems. I definitely never had it freeze during the middle of the night, or overheat, or get wildly-sluggish. Now, with my stock ROM, I never had as SMOOTH as an experience as the fastest custom ROM I've used, and I've also never had as great battery life as the longest-lasting custom ROM out there. I just wish there was a way to take all the good things from every ROM out there, and put it into one, perfect ROM. I have seen the ROMs that claim to do this, but they still tend to have basic flaws. It makes me think that an updated base is to blame for a lot of this. The first round of custom ROMs I had that were based off the original stock seemed rock-solid. Now I've tried just about everything, and there are glaring problems with each of them. Sometimes I am embarassed because my phone has powered off during very important times--like on-call situations at night.
I have multiple wipe APKs, but I was told that the newer superwipe was the end-all be-all of wiping, so that's what I've been using lately. Right now I am using one of the more stable ROMs, Revolution HD 1.1.1, but I still get the random picture movement when rotating in Gallery, I still get really bad 3G/1X problems, where I have to frequently turn off mobile data to get it back... I have had it reboot on me twice in the last 2 days. One thing that really pisses me off, which is not specific to this ROM, is that when I am on WIFI, MMS messages tend not to send or receive... I can't recall if the original stock ROM had this problem or not. I have this issue with stock messaging as well as Handcent. The moment I disable WIFI, my messages appear with images.
Being that I didn't have these issues with truly stock ROMs, I don't believe it is a hardware issue. Am I the only one experiencing these problems, or are others just glossing over these sort of reliability issues, and accounting them to being a flashaholic, or something similar? The only reason I keep flashing is to find one that is rock solid. If I could get the original stock ROM with battery life to get me through an entire day, I'd be happy, but it didn't come close.
What ROMs did you try?
MMS Messages send and receive over WiFi for me just fine (Sense ROM) but on AOSP, they will not.
I suggest you try one of the lesser popular ROMs, as the top ones seem to have the most issues according to my reading and research.
If you want a fast, stable and great battery life that just works check out CleanROM. It is basically stock with the junk pulled out. The dev is very hands. Worth looking at the very least.
well it's a good thing everybody is not having the same issues you are so we know to ignore this useless thread. thanks for the info and cool story bro.
i have two words for you... user. error.
i have never had one issue with cleanrom, steel rom, or WTSB rom... or smokin rom...
all of which would easily be classified as "top roms" as you put it.
and right now i am on virus' eternity 1.4.... been on it, with the same kernel, same settings, etc... for roughly two weeks. zero issues there as well.
sooooooooooo..... either everybody just got lucky, or you are causing the issues you described.
i never have noticed even a blip of lag on eternity.
cobraboy85 said:
well it's a good thing everybody is not having the same issues you are so we know to ignore this useless thread. thanks for the info and cool story bro.
i have two words for you... user. error.
i have never had one issue with cleanrom, steel rom, or WTSB rom... or smokin rom...
all of which would easily be classified as "top roms" as you put it.
and right now i am on virus' eternity 1.4.... been on it, with the same kernel, same settings, etc... for roughly two weeks. zero issues there as well.
sooooooooooo..... either everybody just got lucky, or you are causing the issues you described.
i never have noticed even a blip of lag on eternity.
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Everyone uses their device differently, has wildly different settings, applications, amount of time per day spent doing one thing or another. In some cases we can consider there to be user error, but this really is unlikely in this case. The problem lies in the fact that we have more ROM"chefs" than developers that actually have the knowledge to code their own ROM from the ground up, instead of pasting other peoples work together and calling it an advancement. You can't provide support or bug fixes for work that isn't your's and you have little to no coding experience. Most of these roms are like some you mentioned; a ROM that just has simple things like "bloat" taken out. Those types of chefs have a purpose here, and their roms are nice for some users but they aren't doing much for the improvement of Android overall, and they don't know enough to be trying to slap features in that they can't debug...
Anyway, rant over. I think your reply was hasty and offensive, not to mention based on what I have seen, inaccurate. I think you have been lucky personally because you are using roms like clean ROM that don't add or change much. Therefore you really wouldn't experience what this user is referring to.
I get random reboots often. The mms over wifi has never been an issue though.
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cobraboy85 said:
well it's a good thing everybody is not having the same issues you are so we know to ignore this useless thread. thanks for the info and cool story bro.
i have two words for you... user. error.
i have never had one issue with cleanrom, steel rom, or WTSB rom... or smokin rom...
all of which would easily be classified as "top roms" as you put it.
and right now i am on virus' eternity 1.4.... been on it, with the same kernel, same settings, etc... for roughly two weeks. zero issues there as well.
sooooooooooo..... either everybody just got lucky, or you are causing the issues you described.
i never have noticed even a blip of lag on eternity.
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Thanks for the info and cool story bro.
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Have you tried to install a ROM and not install any apps to make sure it's not app related. I've heard of lots of apps not playing well with certain roms. Just a thought.
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Two words. ANDROID REVOLUTION! check it out.
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Sad Panda said:
Everyone uses their device differently, has wildly different settings, applications, amount of time per day spent doing one thing or another. In some cases we can consider there to be user error, but this really is unlikely in this case. The problem lies in the fact that we have more ROM"chefs" than developers that actually have the knowledge to code their own ROM from the ground up, instead of pasting other peoples work together and calling it an advancement. You can't provide support or bug fixes for work that isn't your's and you have little to no coding experience. Most of these roms are like some you mentioned; a ROM that just has simple things like "bloat" taken out. Those types of chefs have a purpose here, and their roms are nice for some users but they aren't doing much for the improvement of Android overall, and they don't know enough to be trying to slap features in that they can't debug...
Anyway, rant over. I think your reply was hasty and offensive, not to mention based on what I have seen, inaccurate. I think you have been lucky personally because you are using roms like clean ROM that don't add or change much. Therefore you really wouldn't experience what this user is referring to.
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Yes to some extent I see your point. Smokin rom is a build based on steel rom... steel rom however, is just steel rom. Clean rom has had little issues with previous builds but scott being a dev has worked everything out and optimized that rom to the max... and it has its own tweaks to it as well. Same thing with steel rom. I'm not sure what wtsb is based off of but I have never had problems with that one either.
And virus rom is damn near flawless. I have never had a problem with... ever. Since day one. Been running 1.4 for over 2 weeks and it is just as fast as it was the day I flashed it. So im confused by the op's post when he says after a few days they have all lagged and become slow
Was I a little harsh? Maybe. But was I right to think this person is simply complaining and wasting my time? Absolutely. This thread is just him complaining, not problem solving, not helping anybody, just knocking people's hard work when the real issues are found on his end obviously.
Yep. I just tried ViperROM Test4...boom! 100% wakelock while charging. Buggy.
epikphone said:
Yep. I just tried ViperROM Test4...boom! 100% wakelock while charging. Buggy.
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Well ViperROM is actually known for having some problems. Viper is trying to fix that, but any other ROM that is posted (well some but not all) don't have any bugs unless they're posted on the OP. Any other weird hiccups you may experience will most likely be kernel related, such as the random reboots or severe battery drain. I've tried most of the ROMs here, and I have yet to experience any weird quirks unless they are the ones posted on the OP. There are some ROMs that do have weird bugs, but it's not all of the ROMs.
DDiaz007 said:
Well ViperROM is actually known for having some problems. Viper is trying to fix that, but any other ROM that is posted (well some but not all) don't have any bugs unless they're posted on the OP. Any other weird hiccups you may experience will most likely be kernel related, such as the random reboots or severe battery drain. I've tried most of the ROMs here, and I have yet to experience any weird quirks unless they are the ones posted on the OP. There are some ROMs that do have weird bugs, but it's not all of the ROMs.
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What's your favorite ROM? Fast, long battery life.
epikphone said:
Yep. I just tried ViperROM Test4...boom! 100% wakelock while charging. Buggy.
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should you be whining about a "test" ROM having bugs? i think not, seeing as how it clearly says "Test" multiple times. what do you think test roms are for? to work out the bugs maybe. and phones are picky. all roms will not work perfectly for you. you "MUST" find the right rom/kernel combination that works best for the way you use your phone. less *****ing and more testing is all you need.
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Have you tried to install a ROM and not install any apps to make sure it's not app related. I've heard of lots of apps not playing well with certain roms. Just a thought.
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I'm with this guy.
Try a fresh install.
Only use stock apps for the first couple of days your trying.
The girlfriend used to have a stock unrooted Droid x that she would complain about screwing up but it was usually her using alternative music apps and such .
Also if you use titanium backup never batch restore your apps and data. Manually update each app that you want so your not restoring any nasty app data that might be screwing up your roms
Hope this helps
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Yes, I've noticed it too but you just need to use a dose of caution and ask around. I tried about a half dozen ROM's and I've found that the ones that are more "tricked out" have the most problems. Makes sense, because they are fooling with more stuff in the ROM.
That said, there are some really fast and good ones out there. Deck's ROM never gave me any trouble but it was a little TOO stock for me. I've since switched to CleanROM 2.7 and that's incredibly solid and almost as fast as the tricked out OC'd ones. So try one of those preceded with a full wipe and you should be happy.
Mike
epikphone said:
What's your favorite ROM? Fast, long battery life.
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Check out CleanROM 2.7 or CleanROM DE 1.2. Both have great battery life. I get easily over 24 hours with light to moderate use and 12+ on moderate to heavy use.
t3project said:
should you be whining about a "test" ROM having bugs? i think not, seeing as how it clearly says "Test" multiple times. what do you think test roms are for? to work out the bugs maybe. and phones are picky. all roms will not work perfectly for you. you "MUST" find the right rom/kernel combination that works best for the way you use your phone. less *****ing and more testing is all you need.
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Seeing how this is a thread about "Buggy ROMs", I feel justified in my post. Did I ***** and moan and complain about the issue? No. Did I complain about lack of support? No. Did I complain about anything else? No.
I stated the problem...."100% wakelock while charging" and that's it.
Go preach elsewhere.
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LfnsR said:
Check out CleanROM 2.7 or CleanROM DE 1.2. Both have great battery life. I get easily over 24 hours with light to moderate use and 12+ on moderate to heavy use.
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Thanks. Your post deserves a thumbs up.
bmtdan said:
Try a fresh install.
Only use stock apps for the first couple of days your trying.
The girlfriend used to have a stock unrooted Droid x that she would complain about screwing up but it was usually her using alternative music apps and such .
Also if you use titanium backup never batch restore your apps and data. Manually update each app that you want so your not restoring any nasty app data that might be screwing up your roms
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I was originally coming onto the forum to post about how every rom/kernel combo eventually starts freezing on me after a few days of use (causing me to miss alarms/calls/etc), when I ran into this post.
I do use Titanium backup pro to batch restore and have been doing so on the Hero/Epic/Shift/3vo. This is the first device that I have had any problems with, but it does seem to coincide with titanium backup since the stock rom was butter.
What's the method of manually updating each app? Is it simply downloading from the market and restoring data to that app? And how is that any different with the likelihood of restoring "nasty app data"?
OP, do you use titanium backup to batch restore apps too?
Everyone else, is there a log file that I can look at to discover the process that triggers the freeze?
No problems on the roms I've used at all. Most of these posts do end up being user error, or just a bad phone. As someone else suggested, try Cleanrom. It is bullet proof. Nothing fancy, but it works forever.
If there were more problems, there would be a ton more threads like this. Yet we only see a post like this every week or so...