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hi just wanted to ask if there is a ROM there that is as close as the original ROM of the samsung galaxy s II in terms of apps and looks but is tweaked for better battery perfomance?
cause my dad bought a SGSII almost a week now, and we only get about 5-6 hrs of it using only it. already did about 4 charge cycles. (4 only cause most of the time the GSII is off, my dad's getting a hang it yet)
config:
- stock android 2.3.3
- 3g auto
- auto backlight (but we are inside a mall so the backlight is isn't that bright & have strong signal)
- auto sync is off
- background data is on
- haptic feedback is off
- audible selection is off
- fast dormancy is off
- power saving mode is on
- juice defender app in balanced setting
apps running:
-skype
-messenger
it drains a LOT even in standby a lot more when using it (browsing, not yet chatting). my hd2 is much more efficient knowing it is not a native android smartphone...
is there a tweaked battery efficient rom there that is as close or at least still looks as the stock?
You can do three things,
1- Install Better Battery Stats and see under 'Partial Wakelocks' to see whats running on background.
2- Stay on Stock ROM and flash a kernel which allows Voltage tweaks and install SetCPU and Undervolt CPU. Ninphetamine 2.1.3 is such a kernel.
3- If thats too complicated for you, then flash an Undervolted kernel, like SpeedMod.
I won't advise you to change to a Custom ROM for battery backup betterment. But doing the above processes will certainly save some.
Regards.
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ithehappy said:
You can do three things,
1- Install Better Battery Stats and see under 'Partial Wakelocks' to see whats running on background.
2- Stay on Stock ROM and flash a kernel which allows Voltage tweaks and install SetCPU and Undervolt CPU. Ninphetamine 2.1.3 is such a kernel.
3- If thats too complicated for you, then flash an Undervolted kernel, like SpeedMod.
I won't advise you to change to a Custom ROM for battery backup betterment. But doing the above processes will certainly save some.
Regards.
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thanks for the quick reply, so custom kernels work with the stock rom...i thought it won't. i'm not that familiar yet with native androids cause in HD2 most of the undervolted kernels there are already built in the roms so i don't change it that much now with the NAND builds....but anyway, i'll try for the mean time # 1 & 3....i'm not that into that #2 tweaks yet in a phone that is not really mine....
It is proven that Stock ROM's with custom Kernels have sweet battery life. As with Stock ROM's they haven't tweaked anything, it's just stock and you flash what YOU want, whereas a custom ROM you're getting things you dont infact need.
I keep going back and forth from Custom ROM's to Stock ROM's.
Hi
I would also recommend looking at SicOpat's ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183774)
This is essentially a stock, rooted ROM with a custom kernel and I find it exceptionally good.
The other thing I would recommend then is to install Titanium Backup and freeze/uninstall a lot of the Samsung apps - WiFi Sharing, software update, *hub stuff. Removing these has a very positive impact on battery life.
Hope this helps.
-Barry
I have also been troubleshooting poor battery life on my phone. I used to lose 10-15% an hour just idling. I reflashed Stock KH3 with the KH3 CF-ROOT kernel and reinstalled a few things (twitter, yahoo messenger, google voice, and some apps that don't sync data). Currently I had 18hrs now with 60% left. MUCH better. A lot of the time the phone was idle but I did listen to music, play some games, and browse the internet/chat, use wifi a bit. Phone only lost like 4-6% overnight. (sorry I don't have hard figures but I didn't document any of it on paper). I'm trying to find out what was killing my battery so I am installing things little by little but I would definitely recommend stock KH3. Seems great so far.
I think your problem lies with the wifi-sharing battery bug. I hear this is updated in newer roms. This was the biggest battery hog on my phone, but after noticing it, my battery life is excellent now.
When Wifi is turned on/off this erroneous process starts in the background called "Wifi-Sharing". It hides and drains your battery at a VERY fast rate. The remedy is simply to "Force Stop" this process after you use Wifi.
Let us know if that helps.
You could root the phone and install Titanium to freeze this process permanently.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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sorry for the wrong forum i got messed up in opening a lot of samsung galaxy sII threads....
i dont see the "wifi sharing" in my dad's GSII when we used it. and as with kies, i think JKG2 firmware is the latest, so i assume that the wifi sharing bug has been fixed there, yes?
i know it would consume a lot since the GSII has a big "engine" but i didn't expect it to eat a lot even on standby with only YM and SKype messengers running in the background.
i'm still observing it. i'm still running stock.
EDIT: i just used wifi to download an app then when look for running apps, i saw "wifi-sharing" is running but i didn't even turned it on
i just flashed Speedmod T38 kernel (it seemed less complicated to use ) now observing if my dad's SGSII gets better
I'm a new Galaxy S II (and new Android) user, and am a bit disappointed in the battery life of my new phone. It was running down extremely quickly yesterday, only lasting about 12 hours with relatively normal use (sending half a dozen texts, downloading 2 apps, checking Facebook and Twitter once an hour or so for a couple of minutes throughout the day). I allowed the phone to discharge completely and charged it fully last night, but this morning nothing seems to have improved. I burned up 10% of the battery in half an hour sending 2 texts, checking my emails, Facebook and Twitter and downloading and trying out a couple of apps.
I'm anxious to know if there's a bit of a burn-in time with the battery on this thing - does it get better after a few charges? I see a lot of people saying they can have the phone on for a few days in some cases, but that's definitely not my experience thus far.
I've installed JuiceDefender (balanced profile), AutoKiller Memory and Advanced Task Killer to try to sort things out but none of them seem to having too much effect and to be quite honest I'd rather not have to compromise my experience by running a number of apps like this to try to extend my battery life at all (nor do I want to have to turn the brightness right down to an unusable level, or set black wallpapers for example).
Does anyone have any real advice on this? I'm starting to think that switching ROMs might be worthwhile? I see that the leaked 2.3.4 ROM seems to have better battery life - is this correct? I'm a bit reluctant to switch to any other unofficial ROMs as there are so many I wouldn't know where to start. It seems they all make a lot of changes but I'd want to keep as close to the stock feel as possible, just with better battery life.
no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
StevenBX said:
I'm a new Galaxy S II (and new Android) user, and am a bit disappointed in the battery life of my new phone. It was running down extremely quickly yesterday, only lasting about 12 hours with relatively normal use (sending half a dozen texts, downloading 2 apps, checking Facebook and Twitter once an hour or so for a couple of minutes throughout the day). I allowed the phone to discharge completely and charged it fully last night, but this morning nothing seems to have improved. I burned up 10% of the battery in half an hour sending 2 texts, checking my emails, Facebook and Twitter and downloading and trying out a couple of apps.
I'm anxious to know if there's a bit of a burn-in time with the battery on this thing - does it get better after a few charges? I see a lot of people saying they can have the phone on for a few days in some cases, but that's definitely not my experience thus far.
I've installed JuiceDefender (balanced profile), AutoKiller Memory and Advanced Task Killer to try to sort things out but none of them seem to having too much effect and to be quite honest I'd rather not have to compromise my experience by running a number of apps like this to try to extend my battery life at all (nor do I want to have to turn the brightness right down to an unusable level, or set black wallpapers for example).
Does anyone have any real advice on this? I'm starting to think that switching ROMs might be worthwhile? I see that the leaked 2.3.4 ROM seems to have better battery life - is this correct? I'm a bit reluctant to switch to any other unofficial ROMs as there are so many I wouldn't know where to start. It seems they all make a lot of changes but I'd want to keep as close to the stock feel as possible, just with better battery life.
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It is argued that task killers and memory killers will only make the problem worse. Juice Defender might be useful if you are using it for scheduling sync and turning WI-FI off when the screen is off, but this feature is only present in the Ultimate edition and you can turn off sync and WI-FI manually if you want. Also beware of rogue apps which are syncing all the time. It is normally the main reason of poor battery life.
Other reason, is that whereas powerful tech specs for phones were rapidly developed, battery technology didn't followed the pace. Our simply batteries cannot cope with our beasts.
Also, there is a thing that it's called "new phone battery blues" which is described as poor battery life due to excessive use of a new powerful toy. After you use your phone normally, for the purposes that normally people use a phone, your battery life will became better.
That said, personally I have a spare battery and a spare charger, and when the battery being used is low, I replace it with the charged one. Sometimes it is necessary, sometimes not.
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no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
Try using better battery stats, link in my sig, to see if you have any wakelocks, the thread has a good howto on using it.
The biggest thing that uses the battery on this phone is the screen, you will get between 4 and 6 hours of screen on time depending on usage and screen brightness.
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Get the original samsung 2000mah extended battery kit.
ahh the battery life talk again
brings back memories of the first days of the SGS2
never thought of reading one again
update to the newest ROM
and read the 1000+ threads about this topic
good day sir
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They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
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Fair point - not all of the roms are everyone's cup of tea. My advice, as a starting point is to flash the stock XXKH3 variant for your area, and then flash a custom kernel, such as Ninphetamine's or Hardcore's Speedmod. This will greatly help with battery life, and also give you the ability (via root access) to use Titanium Backup to freeze apps and services you're not using, which is often the major cause of battery drain through 'wakelocks'; apps that prevent your phone from entering Deep Sleep, or continuously wake it up.
Update to the latest version in your area, uninstall those task killers and whatnot or do a factory reset, install the apps that you are going to use normally like facebook twitter and install better battery stats, decrease brightness to your most tolerable level.
use the phone normally and when the battery is low, use the tool provided in android to check if your phone is sleeping when the screen is OFF, if you are having wakelocks, then use better battery stats to find which apps are causing the wake locks.
No need to install battery management apps, or task killers or memory optimization apps (or as custom rom as yet), that would only compound you problem which may be a very small one to begin with
Thanks for the help so far guys. I've installed XXKH3 and flashed hardcore's Speedmod kernel, and am just getting things set back up the way I like them again. I'm going to uninstall the battery saving apps for now and see how the battery lasts the next couple days.
I'll install Better Battery Stats and keep an eye on any wakelocks too.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction - it was all very simple and quick to get set up; the sheer number of kernels, ROMs, etc. is all a little overwhelming to me right now, being new to Android!
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no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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I'm using stock KH3 with a stock kernel and am perfectly happy with the battery life ...
Im also a noob just got phone. Coming from evo, how do I root,
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They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
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there are other tweaks with custom roms that aren't found in the stock rom (which provides better functionality).
btw, i also suggest u use setcpu to underclock your device to save more batt.
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chalid said:
I'm using stock KH3 with a stock kernel and am perfectly happy with the battery life ...
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wow, good for you
I used HTC Desire before this device, and the roms on there actually hindered battery life, even with all the fancy underclocking, so I am betting, without even attempting to brick my phone, that they are just as overhyped on this phone too.
I get two to three days out of my phone, using it as a PHONE. I can send and receive emails and texts all day, along with phone calls and the occasional browsing and still get at least two days before it dies. I turn off data when I dont want it and stick it in 2G mode and it dares me to kill the battery.
Just let usage settle down and it's fine
Uamore6 said:
Im also a noob just got phone. Coming from evo, how do I root,
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I used this guide to install the latest firmware, and this guide to root it when I was done.
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there are other tweaks with custom roms that aren't found in the stock rom (which provides better functionality).
btw, i also suggest u use setcpu to underclock your device to save more batt.
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I've now installed SetCPU too, set to OnDemand. Thanks for the suggestion!
StevenBX said:
I used this guide to install the latest firmware, and this guide to root it when I was done.
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I've now installed SetCPU too, set to OnDemand. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Beware using anything that isnt ondemand on samsung phones, can cause stuttering, that's what I found anyway.
As far as undervolting -25 to -50mv is a safe first bet.
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no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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Which ones provide the best battery life?
It's not very helpful if you don't direct this poor guy in any direction.
Cheers!
vlad88667 said:
Which ones provide the best battery life?
It's not very helpful if you don't direct this poor guy in any direction.
Cheers!
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Use touch x-power 1.0
It is optimized for battery life
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stop the madness.... just disable Gtalk autologin and you'll have x3 batt life....
i'm still on KG2 and see no need to update, as i easily get 2d+ battery life now...
EDIT: oh, and custom roms is for nerds. that's it. stock only.
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no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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That is wrong. I used to have a UGKG2 ROM and since I upgraded to XXKH3, the battery is MUCH better while the GPS pinpoints in less than 3 seconds with a 5meters accuracy.
I've used ninphetamine 2.1.3+ and it used to drain my battery a fair bit. After having seen another user who said he was experiencing better battery life with ninphetamine 2.0.5. I flashed the older version and it turns out to be indeed better.
My idle drain rate is now 15-17mA using Battery Monitor widget.
So when put in picture. Drain rate is about 2% per hour with minimal usage. (Note 3g data was on)
Anyone else have a better kernel?
EDIT 1:
I've tried using SiyahKernel (KI3) and it seems that according to Battery Monitor widget the idle battery drain is 14-15ma. Seems to be much better. However, occasionally the touchscreen freezes and only the touch button works. But then again it could have been because I was using the KI3 kernel on a KH3 rom. Would report back after I finally get off my lazy ass and flash a KI3 rom
EDIT 2:
Got off my lazy ass finally. Flashed LeoMar 2.7.1 rom with SiyahKernel 1.7.8. Will report back after a while. Though I must say that for some reasons after the boot animation the phone turns black for quite a long time (1-4 Seconds) before the lockscreen appears. This did not happened with the default LeoMar 2.7.1 kernel. Will report back in 24 Hours.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=92694072&pp=25
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=92694072&pp=25
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Thanks sherlock. I posted my findings and was asking if anyone else had better. If it the time of the month of you. Stay off this forum.
Personally I find it very difficult to make meaningful comparisons, especially at idle.
Battery Monitor Widget gives estimates and not actual current drain. See this thread for some discussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056486 but basically it's either not in Samsung's battery driver or the app is not reading the information. So you are comparing estimates and the margin for error might be pretty large.
When you flash new kernels you also need to recalibrate the battery. That also affects your battery drain estimates. (I've had Battery Monitor Widget tell me my battery is going up when its unplugged, so go figure.)
Battery life at idle is affected by so many factors. Maybe your signal strength is better one day than another. Or you got more emails or did more syncing. Or one app just happen to glitch and have a very long wakelock. If you get battery drain, you should be checking your partial wakelocks with BetterBatteryStats. Did you get more partial wakelocks when you were running Nin 2.1.3? Is it the kernel's fault or did you just have a misbehaving app?
I like experimenting with different kernels too, so my point is don't expect miracles when somebody says Kernel X gives amazing battery life compared to Kernel Y. Personally I think they are all about the same at idle, and the big differences are in your settings and your usage. If you wipe your phone, don't add any Google or Exchange accounts, and don't sync or download anything, your battery will last 3 or 4 days on idle no matter what kernel you use.
Stock rooted KI3 (cf-root) is the best for battery life for me, i also have constat 3800+ quadrant score (with top of 4109 as my screenshot in leomar 2.7 rom thread).
Also i have the phone a lot, but really a lot less hot while gaming or stressing it.
KI3 stock kernel and SiyahKernel are at the moment the best in battery life. Anything else is running on older sources and drain more.
The best for me is SpeedMod! Smooth and long life battery. There is something you can't do (bootanimation oc uv bln) but simply great!
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best results for me: stock kernel reflashed after rooting, for that stock rom.
Bar none the way to go.
Stock Rooted KI3 does look good, am yet to test it though
Hmm. So seems like you guys are experiencing deliciously good battery life with KI3 kernel. I shall try it and report back with some numbers.
try siyah kernel. one of the fastest growing kernels IMO
For me is Ninphetamine 2.1.3 and now i'm trying SiyahKernel 1.7.7
My question is.. between stock ki3 and SiyahKernel 1.7.7 the difference is really small (barely notice it) or big?
I tend to not flash to much kernels since the very small chance to corrupt the efs folder (even if ofc i have my backup), so if it's only small improvement, i stay on the stock ki3, if it improves a lot, i prolly try it
I've been using the siyah kernel v1.7.7 and I've been experiencing a great battery life. I didn't use the stock kernel for long to make a comparison but I sugest you give siyah at least a try, since you can always go back to stock if you don't like ir.
Updated 1st post with my new findings.
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Updated 1st post with my new findings.
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batistaRom and ninp 2.0.5 great battery life for me...if you like i can post screenshots if anyone is using setcpu, depending on your kernel try and research in the kernel thread regarding frequencies that other users suggest and adjust yours accordingly...thats what i have done for mine and i could not be any more happier
Alright. I've finally got off my lazy ass and flashed a 2.3.5 rom (LeoMar if you must know) and am currently using siyah 1.7.8. Will report back within 24 hours after I've put the device through a day's use.
cf root KI3 stock kernel on RevolutionRom 2.7.1.
53 hours battery life 3 hours 19mins screen time wifi on 1/3 time, 4g on 2/3 time with facebook sync.
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cf root KI3 stock kernel on RevolutionRom 2.7.1.
53 hours battery life 3 hours 19mins screen time wifi on 1/3 time, 4g on 2/3 time with facebook sync.
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Pix or it didn't happen
Hi, I posted earlier saying that siyah 1.7.7 gave me good battery life. I tried now the cf root v4.2 KI3 and I had better results. Well, I'm someone that don't play many games, but I surf a lot and download a lot of stuff on wifi. I don't care much for overclocking so I think I'm going to stay wth KI3 cf root. For me they're both great for battery life, and maybe the other ones I have not tried are great also (speedmod, ragemod, ninphetamine...)
I think what happens with kernels, and this happens also with custom ROMs (and everything really, brands, etc..) is there is a lot of fanaticism. People like to choose one ROM and kernel and stick to them. They start to defend the kernels they use convincing themselves they're the best no matter what. That is in my opinion the reason because this kind of discussion turns meaningless. Well not that meaningless, at least it gives an idea of the kernels people are using, at least we know speedmod, ragemod, siyah, nimph, are all great kernels.
I'm not criticizing anyone, in fact, I'm just another example of the people I described.
Halo everyone,,, I am Eamonn. Nice to meet u all in xda.
I hv just rooted my SII and I find that the battery drains heavily. I need to use three battery for a day. Thatz reli bother me so much.
It would be so nice if u can share to me how the situation can be improved.
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if you really need a significant change in your battery life try ....this.... this time no software tweeks, got borred with them all, but a small Hardware tweek
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It would be so nice if u can share to me how the situation can be improved
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Use your phone less and/or plug it in.
P.S. If you think this is a vague response, I think your request for help was vague. When you go to the doctor and tell him/her you have a pain, what happens next?
And there are umpteen posts on this topic already ffs
HERE THIS ICS CUSTOM ROM DID THE TRICK FOR ME
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if you really need a significant change in your battery life try ....this.... this time no software tweeks, got borred with them all, but a small Hardware tweek
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totally agree with ZACQ8
You can get a 2450mah battery that doesnt need a different case. Also try Android Assistant, you can view processes that are running and sort by cpu usage. Try to remove or atleast kill from startup any apps that do not need to run all the time. Most battery assistant programs do not work as after killing an app it will just load back up a few minutes later.
I got the official 2000 mAh battery which did give 15% more life. However the most effective improvement I got was from using the SpeedMod kernel and using Tasker to be more precise about when things came on.
Went from around 14 hrs stock to 30+ hrs for SpeedMod on stock rom for GB.
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Hi,
To avoid too fast draining, some classics advices are to turn off some functionalities when you not need it, by example Auto Sync. Many applications needs to be configured with less frequent synchronization (weather apps or widgets, email apps, news apps...)
And as it was mentionned, some kernels can dramatically improve your experience. I agree that Speedmod is one of the best kernel to preserve battery. You can flash it easilly via CWM.
More info here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182498
Hello there members.
I am using the AOKP ROM from Bezke and its a stable Rom , unfortunately it drains allot of battery in just a hour time, a huge amount of battery life which made me stunned.
Is there a way to avoid this as I am going on a vacation and I want to use my phone allot for filming and making photo's.
Thanks in advance.
install betterbaterystats an c wats causing the drain...we jus cant say anthing wiv out a logcat...
All ROMs are different. On the ROM I use it's fine using CM9 kernel... but you can also try another kernel on it like Siyah. 3.1.2 and 3.1rc6 have been reported to have good battery life (in particular their deep sleep works well). I'm testing the new version now, so can't report on it for another day or 2.
That's about all to suggest... and disable any apps you really don't use or rarely use - because you can enable what you need when you need it (this should also help with battery as won't run them in background).
Good luck.
Read the battery faqs and posts and guides .
jje
install better battery stats, bad ass battery monitor, identify wakelocks , solve them. turn off sync, manual brightness set to low. all basics would save your juice