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Alright guys...this is what I did. I downloaded the newest radio MR2 for Gingerbread...then downloaded BAMF 2.0-5. I went into hboot...flashed the MR2...then rebooted and went into recovery via Rom Manger and attempted to flash BAMF 2.0...recieved a couple of error messages followed by (bad). Oh and I did wipe data before flashing Rom. So then I did a system restore....I just rooted a couple of days ago and as soon I downloaded Rom Manager I did a nand backup of everything stock.
Now I don't have data..when I go into hboot it goes to the "do you want to update" part. The only thing I have in CWM is the nandroid stock restore and the BAMF Rom I could not flash. I've googled for the past hour and cannot find out how to get out of this. Hope someone can help...thanks in advance.
Oh and while I was freakin out trying to fix whetever I screwed I lost CWM. No longer have Rom Manager.
caspersfi said:
Oh and while I was freakin out trying to fix whetever I screwed I lost CWM. No longer have Rom Manager.
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you need to delete the Gingerbread (MR2) PG05IMG from sd card...download one of the froyo radios and flash in bootloader just as you did the Gingerbread radio. then you should be able to boot back up into your restored nandroid rom.
The reason you don't have data is that you restored down to a Froyo (MR1) based ROM, but that does not restore your radio. Grab the 1.13.605.7 radio combo from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045081 and flash it the same way you did the MR2 radio. You'll have data back. GB-based ROMs won't work, but if you want it back to normal, do that.
Now, redownload and install ROM Manager from the market. From within ROM Manager, you can reflash CWM. Remove or rename the PG05IMG.zip from the SD card then reboot into recovery to verify. Now you're all set.
Next time, keep track of what the errors you got from CWM were when you tried to flash the ROM. It's really hard to diagnose a problem without them.
Oh, fuuuu...crap.
I may have screwed up here. I rooted my device using Revolutionary, and then using ROM Manager installed the latest Synergy mod on my stock (unrooted Froyo) Thunderbolt. Everything loaded fine, it seemed to be flawless ... but after the update I'm not getting any signal at all. I figured this was a radio issue, so I downloaded the latest radio that was leaked (the 2.11.605 one), put it on my SD card, and flashed that. It said it was "updating" the radio (RADIO_V2), but still no luck. I've tried a few different versions, and although it seems to "flash" and update fine, there's still no signal. Not 1x, 3g, or 4g. Nada. :-\
According to HBOOT, "RADIO" is 1.16.00.0223r, if that helps.
Any ideas on how I can basically undo all this, or have I spectacularly failed at this?
-BT7
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Oh, fuuuu...crap.
I may have screwed up here. I rooted my device using Revolutionary, and then using ROM Manager installed the latest Synergy mod on my stock (unrooted Froyo) Thunderbolt. Everything loaded fine, it seemed to be flawless ... but after the update I'm not getting any signal at all. I figured this was a radio issue, so I downloaded the latest radio that was leaked (the 2.11.605 one), put it on my SD card, and flashed that. It said it was "updating" the radio (RADIO_V2), but still no luck. I've tried a few different versions, and although it seems to "flash" and update fine, there's still no signal. Not 1x, 3g, or 4g. Nada. :-\
According to HBOOT, "RADIO" is 1.16.00.0223r, if that helps.
Any ideas on how I can basically undo all this, or have I spectacularly failed at this?
-BT7
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Well you shouldn't panic. Which radio did you flash? I would flash the MR2 one from this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154010 . If that doesn't work, I would download the rom directly from Synergy here http://androidfilehost.com/XxXViRuSXxX/roms/synergy/thunderbolt/
From recovery, wipe everything manually (Wipe data/cache/dalvik) than flash the file from where it is on your SD card. If you need specific instructions feel free to ask.
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Oh, fuuuu...crap.
I may have screwed up here. I rooted my device using Revolutionary, and then using ROM Manager installed the latest Synergy mod on my stock (unrooted Froyo) Thunderbolt. Everything loaded fine, it seemed to be flawless ... but after the update I'm not getting any signal at all. I figured this was a radio issue, so I downloaded the latest radio that was leaked (the 2.11.605 one), put it on my SD card, and flashed that. It said it was "updating" the radio (RADIO_V2), but still no luck. I've tried a few different versions, and although it seems to "flash" and update fine, there's still no signal. Not 1x, 3g, or 4g. Nada. :-\
According to HBOOT, "RADIO" is 1.16.00.0223r, if that helps.
Any ideas on how I can basically undo all this, or have I spectacularly failed at this?
-BT7
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Am I reading this right???? You said you rooted with Revolutionary.... Then you flashed some Synergy mod with ROM Manager (always a no-no).... onto your STOCK, UNROOTED FROYO Tbolt???? How did we go from rooted with Revolutionary to stock, unrooted Froyo? I'm confused.
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Am I reading this right???? You said you rooted with Revolutionary.... Then you flashed some Synergy mod with ROM Manager (always a no-no).... onto your STOCK, UNROOTED FROYO Tbolt???? How did we go from rooted with Revolutionary to stock, unrooted Froyo? I'm confused.
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Sure hope he's just confused...
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Am I reading this right???? You said you rooted with Revolutionary.... Then you flashed some Synergy mod with ROM Manager (always a no-no).... onto your STOCK, UNROOTED FROYO Tbolt???? How did we go from rooted with Revolutionary to stock, unrooted Froyo? I'm confused.
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Lol I saw that, I decided not to say anything, I guess you have the sharper tongue than me
Ya pretty scary. I'm hoping he meant he rooted his phone and when he said unrooted, he meant "stock" froyo build on his phone.
Sounds like he is able to boot up, just not get any signal.
I'm guessing he is not too skilled in the ways of Android yet.
Lol just found something interesting. Synergy isn't even on rom manager? I was checking to see if the version ofcsynergy he was using was a previous froyo build, and I can't even find it on rom manager
He probably meant that he used Rom Manager to load the rom rather than using recovery.
haha weird
OK, so I was tired when I wrote my initial post, and I probably didn't make a whole lot of sense. Let me be a bit clearer.
For reference, no, I'm "not too skilled in the ways of Android yet". I've been living with Froyo, anxiously awaiting Gingerbread, and then got fed up and read about all the benefits that come with rooting. Now that an easier method has presented itself - the Revolutionary method, as opposed to opening a command prompt and doing the adb stuff, which I can do - I rooted a friend's phone - but decided to not take the plunge myself - I decided to go ahead and give GB a shot.
So let me break down what happened:
- My phone was unrooted previously, running the same software it came with. I'd done a few OTA updates that Verizon provided but had never gone into my phone. That's why I called it "stock", sorry if that terminology confused people. I just meant it was the OS that came on my phone - Android 2.2 w/ HTC Sense and all that jazz.
- I ran the Revolutionary method posted in the "Thunderbolt Android Development" forum. Worked fine. Ran Recovery and installed Superuser permissions as the documentation said. Worked great. Have a phone where if HBOOT launches, it says -Revolutionary- at the top, and it's got -S OFF. My phone technically is rooted.
- The Synergy mod was also posted in the "TB Android Development" forum. I downloaded that and installed it using ROM Manager (Install ROM from SD). Worked fine ... but then had no signal. Every other aspect of the phone seemed to be working. My radio just wasn't working.
- Downloaded an updated radio from the TB Android Dev. forum, ran that, it said it was updating the radio. Rebooted the phone after the update ... still no signal.
I "solved" this problem by flashing the leaked HTC/TB Gingerbread build, the latest one that was like 400 MB, and when I booted my phone up again I had Gingerbread on my phone with HTC Sense 2.1, and I had signal. So I'm living right now with a fully working phone, but I wanted to dip my foot into custom ROMs. So now I have a backup method just in case the radio thing doesn't work again, but what can I do to install a custom ROM and ensure that I get signal?
Thanks for the response, xebryus - and to everyone else, sorry I was a little confusing. Everybody starts from somewhere, right?
-BT7
Download the GB ROM you want, boot into clockwork (please don't install VIA ROM Manager). In clockwork using you Volume keys to move and the Home button to select....
Select Wipe Data/Factory Reset
Select Wipe Cache
Select Advanced
Select Wipe Dalvik
Select Go Back
Select Mounts and Storage
Select Format /system
Select Go Back Until you are at the first screen
Select Install from SD Card
Select Choose ZIP
Go to the folder where you downloaded the ROM
Select ROM
Select Yes.
When it is done Reboot.
Enjoy!
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Hey, at least you didn't brick your phone, so kudos for you for getting that far.
As others have stated there are basically two kinds of radio versions out there. One that work with Froyo builds and ones that work with GB builds.
So depending on the rom you are loading, you just have to make sure you have the right radio to match the rom(the rom thread should tell you what radio it requires). From what you were saying, it sounded like you just had the wrong radio.
Anyways, couple of things you want to make sure you do. Any check to make sure the checksum is correct on the radio (so that it's not corrupt) otherwise you could have some major issues. Also, once you flash the radio and you get your phone back up, make sure to either rename or delete the PG05img file from your SD root, otherwise, again a major hassle.
Check out the noob thread at the top of this forum also. It has great info there that will help you on your journey.
Good Luck.
I have always felt more in control flashing from recovery or hboot but I'm curious why no rom manager?
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RevosFTS said:
I have always felt more in control flashing from recovery or hboot but I'm curious why no rom manager?
Sent from my Tbolt running Das Bamf 3.0...
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When the TB first came out, it seemed that people were having issues with using rom manager to flash roms (alot of force closes, things in general not working correctly). So many experienced people said to use recovery rather than rom manager to flash anything on the TB.
I guess that idea just kinda stuck after that.
Ok thanks. I will still use recovery anyhow I am more used to it. Plus I'm kinda old school I love adb haha
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I have downloaded Synergy Rom and have no problems except that I am not able to get the radio to flash. I am on verizon and chose the MR3.5 radio. I did a battery pull and then pressed the power and volume down button to enter HBoot but I do not have an option to Upgrade. What am I doing wrong any help is appreciated. I need help quick, thanks!!!
1more thing when i am in the HBoot window my only options are Fastboot, Recovery, Factory Reset, Simlock, Hboot USB, System Info, Image Crc..... it says radio is 1.16.00.0402w.
Does this mean the radio was already upgraded. Why can I not get a signal then?
Did you rename the .zip and have it on the root of your SD card?
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1more thing when i am in the HBoot window my only options are Fastboot, Recovery, Factory Reset, Simlock, Hboot USB, System Info, Image Crc..... it says radio is 1.16.00.0402w.
Does this mean the radio was already upgraded. Why can I not get a signal then?
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Nope..402w is still MR1. Sounds like you are already in bootloader so at this point if it isn't updating then more than likely the file is named incorrectly as stated above.
Radios HAVE to be named PG05IMG.zip (3rd character is a ZERO, not the letter "O"). It HAS to be in the root folder of your SD card. Now, turn the phone OFF.
Next, hold down the VOL-DOWN button. Keep it held down. Is it still held down ? If so, push and hold down the POWER button. When the screen turns on, you can release both. This menu will automatically look for 3 or 4 files with certain names. One of the names (files) it looks for is .... PG05IMG.zip. When/if it finds it, it will check it and ask you if you want to load it. Tell it to load it and then leave your phone alone. It will update it and reboot like normal (if successful).
I've seen a lot of issues with flashing roms since the ICS leaks and want to do the best I can to help. Therefore, consider this a guide, if you will, on an "easier" way to flash.
If you know what you're doing, skip to post #2 in this thread, it contains pre-built kernels for your flashing happiness!
I want to start by saying that using the CleanFLASH 1.0 by scrosler (thanks) tool is easier to do if you have a PC. Follow his instructions and you'll be pleased. However, it lacks if you're not sitting in front of a computer, thererfore, this guide is simply an alternative..
As a base, I am using dsb9938's 1.1.3 kernel for GB as a guide.
If you aren't familiar, use the search tool or simply look through the kernels listed for the rezound.
To make that easier, see this post
This method can be used for Gingerbread as well as Ice Cream Sandwich, so long as you make sure to follow it exactly, use the correct kernel and correct android-info.txt file to update your mainver. Warning: Updating the mainver (android-info.txt) will most likely prevent you from being able to RUU. However, you can flash back and fourth between all the GB/ICS roms just fine. You've been warned...
I want to stress, I am not responsible for any damage you may cause, do this at your own risk! Please read through the ENTIRE guide before attempting to make sure you fully understand and don't hesitate to ask questions, everyone is here to help...
Things you need:
a) A kernel file. These are normally PH98IMG.zip files with an android-info text file and the boot.img file for that specific kernel.
Example: If you're booting a rom for ICS currently, you're going to want either demon's or the stock/leaked kernel. It can be found here for linux/mac/windows
b) Android-Info.txt (found in the zip for #2)
c) DSB's kernel 1.1.3 found here
d) Winzip
e) Some spare time and patience.
This process, once you figure it out, takes like 5 minutes, seriously.
1) Extract DSB's kernel to your computer, name it appropriately.
Inside of it will be 3 folders, "kernel, META-INF and system".
We only need to access the Kernel folder.
In it are 4 files, copyToSD.sh, PH98IMG.zip, rebootToBootloader.sh and sleep.sh.
2) Extract PH98IMG.zip there.
3) Take the kernel file (boot.img, you may have to unzip the kernel you downloaded) you're going to be using with your NEW rom and place it in the PH98IMG folder that you unzipped, overwrite the boot.img file that is there currently. If you download a new kernel file and it's already in PH98IMG.zip format, you can skip to step 5
4) Likewise, replace the android-info.txt file with the one from the NEW kernel you downloaded also.
5) Zip the files back up as PH98IMG.zip. (Highlight both, right-click, add to archive, change to ZIP if necessary, name it PH98IMG.zip, use any compression) If you already have a PH98IMG.zip file that you downloaded, simply overwrite the original.
6) Now that you have done that, it's time to zip up the whole directory. Go back where you see the 3 folders and highlight them, follow the same procedure for step 5, however name this zip anything you like, something that reminds you which kernel it is would be helpful. for instance: DSBICSKernel1 or something
7) Place this bad boy on your EXTERNAL SDCARD.
8) Flash ROM of your choice
9) Flash Kernel you created...
10) After if flashes the kernel zip file it will throw you into hboot, hightlight bootloader, hit power and it should find PH98IMG.zip.
If you used the correct android-info.txt file, it should allow you to flash the update by hitting power.
11) After it flashes, reboot device and ENJOY!!!
See post#2 for pre-built kernels flashable via recovery.
Big, big thanks to jcase, Scrosler, Con247, Tachie, x3demond3x, Newtroot, dsb9938, dmeadows013, lllboredlll and many others. This is all derivatives from all of them, without them this post, information and all would not be at all possible!
Simply drop onto your external SD card and flash via recovery. Can be flashed before or after a rom, after is normally the best method.
Full credit to dsb9938 for permission to use his 1.1.3 GB kernel as a base! I should note, these kernels are not mine, they are what I extract from roms that are put out, I simply organized them into one post and gave an alternate way to flash them.
Flash this to get to AOSP ICS (should work with any AOSP build) -Download.
Flash this to get from ICS back to GB - Download
Flash this to get to SENSE ICS - Download
All kernels current as of 1/19/12
There is already a guide for all of this.
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There is already a guide for all of this.
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can you provide a link please?
Cleaned up the first post a bit, for being rushed I feel it's worded fairly well, feedback would be appreciated.
Post #2 now contains a kernel for AOSP ICS as well as a zip to get you back to GB from ICS.
Enjoy!
Had the same idea last night. Contacted Con, and he gave this exact info. Thanks for pushing this out, beat me to it. Thanks from the whole community.
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Had the same idea last night. Contacted Con, and he gave this exact info. Thanks for pushing this out, beat me to it. Thanks from the whole community.
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Welcome sir, I'll continue adding these as necessary, it's nice to have all of it in one spot, yanno?
why when I flash the Clean 2.0 ICS ROM after the flash it goes into fastboot. I push the power button and it tries to flash but then comes back and says Main Version is older and then it fails.
I flashed the Kernel you provided and it flashed just fine. It went into fastboot as its suppossed to do and then all went well from there for the PMG img file. The ROM loaded up but I have no 4G or 3G indication. I have a few bars but its like the radio is not working.
BTW Thank you for posting this information.
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why when I flash the Clean 2.0 ICS ROM after the flash it goes into fastboot. I push the power button and it tries to flash but then comes back and says Main Version is older and then it fails.
I flashed the Kernel you provided and it flashed just fine. It went into fastboot as its suppossed to do and then all went well from there for the PMG img file. The ROM loaded up but I have no 4G or 3G indication. I have a few bars but its like the radio is not working.
BTW Thank you for posting this information.
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I had the same situation with Senseless, my best explanation is that I have a newer android-info file, but haven't really looked. You have to enable mobile usage on the rom after you get it booted up.... go to settings > data usage and enable it
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I had the same situation with Senseless, my best explanation is that I have a newer android-info file, but haven't really looked. You have to enable mobile usage on the rom after you get it booted up.... go to settings > data usage and enable it
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NOOOOOO!!!!! Take out that newer file! Make it a separate download for people that have the mainver error. You don't want to be updating people mainvers! They will get updated by flashing this! If that happens they can't run an RUU to fix their phones until an official ICS one comes out.
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NOOOOOO!!!!! Take out that newer file! Make it a separate download for people that have the mainver error. You don't want to be updating people mainvers! They will get updated by flashing this! If that happens they can't run an RUU to fix their phones until an official ICS one comes out.
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While I 100% respect your opinion sir... I've personally been going back and fourth just fine, I just re-apply the appropriate mainver. I also explained in the OP that this is at peoples own risk... XDA is full of dangerous things you can do and people learn lessons by flashing willy nilly. What is a big deal to some may not be a big, big deal to others, I've been flash crazy on this phone since I got it a week ago and haven't ran into a situation to RUU yet... that said folks, if you're not comfortable doing this, please find another solution.
EDIT: I updated the OP to reflect the behavior updating the mainver may cause to be safe.
since when does DSB have an AOSP ICS kernel???
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since when does DSB have an AOSP ICS kernel???
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The AOSP kernel itself is from x3demond3x i believe, it's whatever was in the aosp builds currently out, I take no credit for it. The files are named dsb since the scripts are based from his 1.1.3 kernel file for gingerbread.
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While I 100% respect your opinion sir... I've personally been going back and fourth just fine, I just re-apply the appropriate mainver. I also explained in the OP that this is at peoples own risk... XDA is full of dangerous things you can do and people learn lessons by flashing willy nilly. What is a big deal to some may not be a big, big deal to others, I've been flash crazy on this phone since I got it a week ago and haven't ran into a situation to RUU yet... that said folks, if you're not comfortable doing this, please find another solution.
EDIT: I updated the OP to reflect the behavior updating the mainver may cause to be safe.
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I been flashing for years but today I ran into the same problems. Ill find my own method in fixing this error. Thanks for the effort but I think there would be about a few thousand people with this error. unstable flashing lol GL Developers
The warning is fine. So if people need to ruu they will have brought it upon themselves knowingly. Good to go now.
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Does the ICS Sense kernel support overclocking?
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Does the ICS Sense kernel support overclocking?
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Unless I'm mistaken, all kernels for ICS to this point are based on stock HTC kernels and will not currently support OC. However, they score very well at 1.5 on Antutu
This ICS to GB doesnt work. i still get the mainver error
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This ICS to GB doesnt work. i still get the mainver error
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Well with the information provided you can find the other android-info.txt files around and experiment to suit your needs, i'll take a look at it later and see if I need to upload an alternative if that one fails. Thanks for the feedback
So now my mainver is changed and I can't flash back to the stock ics kernel... I am stuck on your "dsb sense ics" kernel and it is unstable as hell. The moment I try to make or receive a phone call, I immediately go into boot loop.. how can I get back to the stock kernel please? Your return to GB kernel womt flash either. I think I'm screwed until somebody makes a more stable kernel with the new mainver.
Let me start off by saying I have been reading these forums for a couple days and I am just getting more confused.
Currently I have root, S-On, and no other mods or ROMs. I am getting the popup notification to update literally every time I turn on the screen. I can select defer and set a date about a week in the future from whatever day it is, but the popup comes back within the hour. A few times it even began downloading on its own (while on 4G as well, ~100 mb of data used up every time).
All I would like to do is somehow get my phone to be as if I were complete stock and accepted the OTA, keep root, and not have to wipe any data (or be able to restore a full nandroid). I am getting very frustrated with everything and once I think I understand it, someone throws out something new to me.
If anyone is willing to take some time to help me with this I would gladly make a donation, either to them or another party of their choosing
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Let me start off by saying I have been reading these forums for a couple days and I am just getting more confused.
Currently I have root, S-On, and no other mods or ROMs. I am getting the popup notification to update literally every time I turn on the screen. I can select defer and set a date about a week in the future from whatever day it is, but the popup comes back within the hour. A few times it even began downloading on its own (while on 4G as well, ~100 mb of data used up every time).
All I would like to do is somehow get my phone to be as if I were complete stock and accepted the OTA, keep root, and not have to wipe any data (or be able to restore a full nandroid). I am getting very frustrated with everything and once I think I understand it, someone throws out something new to me.
If anyone is willing to take some time to help me with this I would gladly make a donation, either to them or another party of their choosing
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You can simply flash a stock rom that has the update & flash the newer stock kernel that goes with it but you wont be able to update the radios. You wont lose any info this way unless something goes wrong.(always backup everything just in case something goes wrong).
As for backup, you will only be able to backup aps & data with titanium backup or some sort of program like that because If you do a nandroid backup and then restore after applying the update, you would be restoring your old rom basically over the new one and lose most update enhancements.
You should just follow the thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155069 and go S-Off. I know you will have to restore everything because you will wipe your phone when you do this but its only gonna make things easier for you in the future.
Do a nan backup and save it in case you want to use it in the future and go back to what you had. Once you have S-Off, you can flash kernals, radios, & roms and put in any version you want.
Thanks for your response Jrocker,
So it looks like the best way to do this would be to backup my apps with Titanium, get S-off, install a stock ROM with the update, flash the kernel and radio, then restore from Titanium.
Step 1. Make nandroid
Step 2. Backup apps with Titanium, copy backup along with pics and video to PC
Step 3. Get S-off
Step 4. Flash Stock ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095
Step 5. While still in recovery, flash stock kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149951
Step 6. Flash stock radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155915
Step 7. Restore apps and pics.
Does that look correct? Do I have to worry about flashing a boot.img or modules(don't know what those are)?
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Thanks for your response Jrocker,
So it looks like the best way to do this would be to backup my apps with Titanium, get S-off, install a stock ROM with the update, flash the kernel and radio, then restore from Titanium.
Step 1. Make nandroid
Step 2. Backup apps with Titanium, copy backup along with pics and video to PC
Step 3. Get S-off
Step 4. Flash Stock ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095
Step 5. While still in recovery, flash stock kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149951
Step 6. Flash stock radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155915
Step 7. Restore apps and pics.
Does that look correct? Do I have to worry about flashing a boot.img or modules(don't know what those are)?
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Have you unlocked the bootloader? (this step is usually done in connection with rooting the phone at the htcdev.com website). If you have an ulocked bootloader, then you can flash an alternate recovery (eithe cwr or twrp) and do a nandroid backup.
Then follow the steps to get s-off. Note: the step where you have your data wiped is unlocking the bootloader, not obtaining s-off. If you already have an alternate recovery, and root, then s-off generally will not wipe your phone. But do an nandroid backup in cwr or twrp just in case Although a nandroid won't backup pictures etc.
Once you have s-off, flash the stock (but rooted) rom you linked to in step 4. This step SHOULD flash the stock kernel if the .zip file was prepared properly. If you boot into the rom and have flickering or wifi issues, then you will need to flash the stock 2.04 kernel (in fastboot). You can also verify if the new kernel was installed when the rom is booted by looking at the Settings:About:Software Information:More (baseband, kernel etc). You should see there kernel version 3.4.10. The baseband (radio) should be 1.01.01.0110 once you have updated the radio (see the step below). The kernel file is the boot.img file you were asking about. The modules will already be built into the stock rom.
While in fastboot (not recovery) you can flash the updated radio files (that will make the baseband referred to above be 1.01.01.0110.
The time when you need to worry about flashing a kernel (boot.img) and modules is if you are s-on, or if you are s-off and the zip file was prepared as you were s-on. When you flash a "kernel", it consists of a boot.img file, along with some extraneous files (the module). When you are s-off, these can both be flashed together while in recovery. When you are s-on, the boot.img file must be flashed from fastboot (or else an alternate method using an app like Flash Image GUI). Because until recently, most DNA's were s-on, the kernel developers prepared their files for s-on devices, with instructions for s-on devices.
When you flash a rom that uses a different kernel than the one you are using, if the .zip file is prepared for a s-off device, then there are no additional steps necessary.
You may want to do a factory reset when you flash the updated 2.04 rom. I think it would be wise. As I said earlier, you shouldn't lose your /sdcard partition UNLESS you haven't already unlocked your bootloader. s-off doesn't reset your device.
Wow, all I can say is thank you so much! That was an awesome, detailed answer. It makes so much more sense when someone fully explains everything all at once, instead of me trying to piece everything together myself from various threads.
Yes my bootloader is unlocked. So you are saying once the bootloader is unlocked wiping data won't touch the SD card partition, just as if I had an actual SD card? When I rooted my Thunderbolt and did subsequent factory resets on that, it never touched the SD card. When I rooted my DNA it wiped everything. Either way I will always make backups and copy those to my PC.
I will be trying this later today and I will report back with the results. Seriously, thank you so much.
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Wow, all I can say is thank you so much! That was an awesome, detailed answer. It makes so much more sense when someone fully explains everything all at once, instead of me trying to piece everything together myself from various threads.
Yes my bootloader is unlocked. So you are saying once the bootloader is unlocked wiping data won't touch the SD card partition, just as if I had an actual SD card? When I rooted my Thunderbolt and did subsequent factory resets on that, it never touched the SD card. When I rooted my DNA it wiped everything. Either way I will always make backups and copy those to my PC.
I will be trying this later today and I will report back with the results. Seriously, thank you so much.
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I was looking for this exact solution as well. This was before we had s-off. For a while my solution was to freeze a couple apps in TB so the OTA pop up would stop popping up. I think it was HTC DM 1.0.2219251543..... and HtcDm 1.0.221982913.... Looks the same but they are different.
I like stock but I eventually flashed ViperDNA. It looks like stock but you are able to customize the $h!!t out of it. Its an awesome ROM that I highly recommend. Although you might want to wait until he comes out with 1.2 (the new version with the latest firmware) becuase you have to wipe data. Data wiping isn't a big deal if you use TB.
Ether way you go - Stock ROM or ViperDNA - The recommended way to wipe your device is this way:
(I'm using TWRP but CR should be similar, might be in different menus)
Backup everything using TB
Backup Pics and other docs on internal SD card (JUST IN CASE)
Make Nandroid Backup in Recovery
Wipe Menu-> Wipe Dalvik Cache (some like to wipe 3 times others think its just a waste of time)
Wipe Menu-> Wipe Cache (Factory Reset wipes cache but I like to wipe cache anyway just for completeness )
Wipe Menu-> Factory Reset
Wipe Menu-> System
Don't Format Data and Don't wipe Internal Storage. You will loose SD card contents.
Once you install your ROMS, flash your kernals, flash radios...whatever you want to do...You can restore apps and data from TB
As always, follow the ROMS instructions on their page for more information.
Only Restore User Apps and Data
Never restore any system apps in RED. May not be compatible with new ROM
You can however restore system Data that is in Yellow or Green (DATA ONLY)
Thanks devilsaces
Once I get everything updated and get a good nadroid of the newest firmware with all my apps I will definitely give ViperDNA a shot. I tried a few custom ROMs on my Thunderbolt, and while they were great to customize, they weren't always stable. Like I said I use my phone for work all day so I really need something dependable, and so far stock hasn't let me down.
Thanks again everyone, a lot of great info in this thread. Hopefully this will be useful to others as well.
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Thanks devilsaces
Once I get everything updated and get a good nadroid of the newest firmware with all my apps I will definitely give ViperDNA a shot. I tried a few custom ROMs on my Thunderbolt, and while they were great to customize, they weren't always stable. Like I said I use my phone for work all day so I really need something dependable, and so far stock hasn't let me down.
Thanks again everyone, a lot of great info in this thread. Hopefully this will be useful to others as well.
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Yeah, I had the same problem on the Thunderbolt, nothing stable. Viper however feels great. I would definitely freeze the HTC apps in Titanium Backup to get rid of the annoying pop ups. I noticed Viper has them uninstalled.
About to start, few more questions. The stock ROM I linked to (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095) says it doesn't have the new firmware, is that different from kernel or anything else? Do I need to flash that as well?
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About to start, few more questions. The stock ROM I linked to (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095) says it doesn't have the new firmware, is that different from kernel or anything else? Do I need to flash that as well?
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I'm actually running that rom right now.
You don't need to flash the radio if you don't want. If you are happy with your cell reception, and battery life, as well as wifi, then you can stay on the original radio.
Or if you'd like to try the new radio, you can flash that (once you have s-off) with this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38197525
I'm not sure if there is a radio flash prepared to go back to the original radio. Generally speaking, once to are s-off, you can change radios at will.
From what I understand, if you flash the rom you linked to, and the radio above, then you will have everything from the update, except the updated hboot. I haven't bothered changing my hboot. changing hboot won't affect the day to day operation of the phone, but it can change the fast boot commands that are available. Until I see a good reason, I am not going to worry about my hboot.
FYI: about changing radios, from what I understand, the radio file is the code that tells the phone how to communicate with the towers. It tells the phone how to adjust the power output of the radio according to the strength of signal from the cell. This can be very aggressive, leading to better signal, at the expense of battery life (increasing power output of the phone radio takes more power from the battery), or it can be conservative, with a little lower quality signal, but conserving battery life.
It seems that the engineers at the carriers are constantly tweaking the radio code to find a sweet spot between signal quality and battery life. Different carriers may tweak the radio for the same phone with a different priority. Sprint may prioritize signal, while verizon prioritizes battery. So each carrier may have a different radio file for phone that is in the same phone family. And then each carrier may have multiple radios. On the thunderbolt there were about 6 or 7 I think, but it is generally believed that newer radios work better than older ones.
Some people on xda will often experiment to see which radio file works best for them, depending on where they live and work.
I always try to be careful to only flash redid that others have reported to work with my device, rather than experimenting personally. I would think that you can brick your phone flashing the wrong radio file.
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 2
Is that ROM deodexed? Or would I be better off using this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080200
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About to start, few more questions. The stock ROM I linked to (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095) says it doesn't have the new firmware, is that different from kernel or anything else? Do I need to flash that as well?
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Firmware is the Android system. The Droid DNA is on on 4.1.1 (Jelly Bean). That version has not changed in the new OTA update so I don't know why that ROM even mentioned it.
The Kernal is the interface that alows the software to access the hardware. A more detailed explanation can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=ROM-VS-Kernel
HBOOT is 'kinda' like your BIOS in windows. It is the bootloader. It is the first thing that is loaded on your phone. This too I believe has not changed with the latest OTA update.
This is the change log for the 2.04.605.2 710RD update
Bluetooth connectivity and volume level for specific models have been improved
Enhanced reliability and stability of the Contacts List have been made
Enhanced Recent Apps functionality has been improved
Incoming messages display with the correct timestamp
Improvements to Hotspot connectivity have been made
Improvements to Audio Quality for wired headsets and earpieces have been made
Improvements to default browser for zooming capability have been made
User can load videos on HuluPlus
Wi-Fi Connectivity has been improved
As you can see it is mostly stuff related to your radio so the radio is the main part you would want. I personally just updated my radio and din't worry about anything else.
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Is that ROM deodexed? Or would I be better off using this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080200
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I don't think it is deodexed otherwise it would tell you. I think deodexed is good if you want to theme.
I'm using the first one, which isn't deodexed. But I'm keeping my rom close to stock this week
Next week, when the Viper rom has been updated to 2.04, I'll be flashing that, and probably a theme.
You indicated that you aren't currently running any mods or themes. Unless you are looking to change, I would suggest you flash the first rom you linked, which is stock, except for the root capability being added to it.
The de-odexed rom you asked about will have been modified, deleting the .odex files so that the rom can further be customized by themes etc. When a phone boots a rom that is missing the .odex files, it will take longer to boot because it will essentially create the missing .odex files on the fly while booting. But when you are modding your rom, adding themes etc., existing .odex files get in the way, so that is why developers remove the .odex files, even though the rom will take longer to boot. Once the phone is booted, whether the rom was odexed or not becomes irrelevant.
For now, if you are looking to be on the latest radio and HTC rom, I suggest you get s-off, then flash the basic 2.04 rom (the one you linked to first), and the updated radios. Hopefully HTC will soon release the updated source files for the 2.04 kernel, and then we will have more customization.
If you are looking to customize now, I would get s-off, then flash the updated radios, but stay with a rom based on the original released rom and source (like Viper). The latest Viper rom (with updates to 1.1.3) has modifications so that you won't have to worry about getting bugged to update your ROM for 2.04. If you decided to go with Viper, it is a little confusing when viper is updating from 1.1 to 1.1.1 to 1.1.2 to 1.1.3, because it uses an over-the-air (OTA) update process similar to the stock OTA update. So you may see notices for updates - but the updates would be for Viper. Once you have gotten your phone s-off, you don't need to worry about updates causing problems.
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Is that ROM deodexed? Or would I be better off using this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080200
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Ok so I have done everything, S-off, deodexed stock ROM, 3.4.10 kernel (it flashed with the ROM), and updated radio. I'm able to boot up but I don't have wifi.
Edit: Flashed the boot.img from the zip and it's working now.
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Ok so I have done everything, S-off, deodexed stock ROM, 3.4.10 kernel (it flashed with the ROM), and updated radio. I'm able to boot up but I don't have wifi.
Edit: Flashed the boot.img from the zip and it's working now.
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Congrats!
I think that rom you used wasn't set up properly to flash the boot.img from recovery, so that is why you had to do it manually. As time goes on (and there are more users with s-off), I think most new roms will be set up properly, so you shouldn't run into that again.
The whole process wasn't that hard, and using TiB made it really easy to get everything back.
So how do I go about removing bloatware now that I have S-Off and I am deodexed?
Although there are several ways to start removing bloatware, one of the easiest ways is to go into TiBu, and freeze apps. Make a nandroid backup first, and start slow.
Some apps have dependencies, you freeze one, and another might not work, like contacts and dialer.
After you have frozen an app, and are confident that it isn't necessary, you can delete it if you want.
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Let me start off by saying I have been reading these forums for a couple days and I am just getting more confused.
Currently I have root, S-On, and no other mods or ROMs. I am getting the popup notification to update literally every time I turn on the screen. I can select defer and set a date about a week in the future from whatever day it is, but the popup comes back within the hour. A few times it even began downloading on its own (while on 4G as well, ~100 mb of data used up every time).
All I would like to do is somehow get my phone to be as if I were complete stock and accepted the OTA, keep root, and not have to wipe any data (or be able to restore a full nandroid). I am getting very frustrated with everything and once I think I understand it, someone throws out something new to me.
If anyone is willing to take some time to help me with this I would gladly make a donation, either to them or another party of their choosing
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I would highly recommend using the OTA blocking zip to kill the update messages. I'm not very handy with posting zips yet but search the threads for the disable OTA. I am on the Viper DNA rom also but I put the OTA blocking on just in case. If I were on my PC instead of my phone I could have posted the zip file for you. I'm sure with each rom the developer has added a file to make sure the OTA is killed but you can never be too sure.
Easiest way to get 2.04 OTA for rooted DNA phones
Hat-tip .Torrented from our discussion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152993&page=12
Get Facepalm S-Off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155069
Download stock recovery from: http://goo.im/devs/Flyhalf205/DNA/dlx_recovery_signed.img
Flash the stock recovery using:
fastboot flash recovery dlx_recovery_signed.img
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Once you are on stock recovery, and assuming you're on stock kernel, it allows you to take the OTA update!
After you take the ota just flash the custom recovery of your choice again. CWM Touch is a good option: http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
Flash the superuser-busybox.zip to root.
This gives you a completely clean "factory" upgrade to 2.04, without losing any of your data (YMMV - so pls always take a backup before you do this).
It worked for me - yippee!!!
Software number: 2.04.605.2 710RD
Kernel version: 3.4.10-ga02d2c6
Baseband version: 1.01.01.0110
Whole procedure took less than 15 minutes
zanyguy said:
Hat-tip .Torrented from our discussion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152993&page=12
Get Facepalm S-Off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155069
Download stock recovery from: http://goo.im/devs/Flyhalf205/DNA/dlx_recovery_signed.img
Flash the stock recovery using:
Once you are on stock recovery, and assuming you're on stock kernel, it allows you to take the OTA update!
After you take the ota just flash the custom recovery of your choice again. CWM Touch is a good option: http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
Flash the superuser-busybox.zip to root.
This gives you a completely clean "factory" up to 2.04, without losing any of your data (YMMV - so pls always take a backup before you do this).
It worked for me - yippee!!!
Software number: 2.04.605.2 710RD
Kernel version: 3.4.10-ga02d2c6
Baseband version: 1.01.01.0110
Whole procedure took less than 15 minutes
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Thanks zanyguy for the procedure and process outline. I have a question regarding my current format and was wondering if going to a stock rooted version would work for me. Since every end user is different then there are different things they want of course. For me the process is very simple. I like a very lean system. I also like to try and achieve many things to look as close to AOSP as I can get and keep functionality. My current setup has the phone unlocked, rooted, s-off and running Viper 1.1.3. My radio is the OTA update radio of 1.01.01.0110 and my kernel is the same 3.4.10-ga02d2c6. What I wonder is this. Should I even bother trying to flash the stock Rom? Is there any benefits to doing so? And if I do give it a spin should I just restore the Viper DNA rom or re flash anew?
Thanks
Hey guys, Im in urgent need of help here.
I'll give you an exact account of what i did.
saved apps via Ti. Back.; uploaded the new ICS radios and debloated, deodexed rom from my computer to my tbolt, renamed the radio from my computer; booted into 4ext, nandroid, wiped EVERYTHING, booted into bootloader; bootloader detected the new radio and I confirmed its update
Next thing that happened was that the HTC splash screen appeared as normal but disappeared, leaving a blank screen with dim backlight. Pulled battery and tried to reboot 10+ times to no avail. Same thing happens everytime. ADB doesn't recognize the phone but i CAN boot into bootloader. The problem is that everytime I boot into bootloader, the radio begins to update, leaving with the only option to reboot. Thus, I cant get into recovery.
I've spent the past couple hours trying to do my homework on this but its not looking too hot. I need this bad boy, so help is much appreciated.
Doug
You need to take the radio off the sd card, so you can boot to recovery and actually flash the rom.
Sounds like you haven't flashed a rom yet, so it has nothing to boot into.
With the radio image (PG05IMG.zip) on the root it will not go to Recovery.
So you will need to find a card reader to rename the radio file, since you wiped prior to flashing the radios.
The preferred process would have been to flash the radios, boot to your current rom, rename the radio file from within the current rom.
Then boot to recovery and flash the new rom.
I somewhat outlined this in the OP of the rooted rom thread where you should have gotten the download from.
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You need to take the radio off the sd card, so you can boot to recovery and actually flash the rom.
Sounds like you haven't flashed a rom yet, so it has nothing to boot into.
With the radio image (PG05IMG.zip) on the root it will not go to Recovery.
So you will need to find a card reader to rename the radio file, since you wiped prior to flashing the radios.
The preferred process would have been to flash the radios, boot to your current rom, rename the radio file from within the current rom.
Then boot to recovery and flash the new rom.
I somewhat outlined this in the OP of the rooted rom thread where you should have gotten the download from.
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Makes sense.I dont know why I read "wipe everything" before the rest of your thread and thought that meant to do so before reflashing radios.
Got a $10 reader and was able to change the radio file and boot into recovery. Flashed the rom as usual and it looks lke everythings working.
Thanks for the help man.