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hi all,
just recently bought a hero and sorry for the noob questions. any help will be greatly appreciated.
1.) How do i activate the green notification light for any new notifications? so far i can only use the trackball to flash for a number of minutes and thats it.
2.) how can i permanently use 3g as a signal without switching back to edge? i prefer 3g because it is faster, but when i use the web, it reverts to edge making it slower when browsing. i want it never to switch back to edge just 3g.
3.) How do you update radio and rom? is it the same with winmo? i have a topaz and im currently using hero.
Thanks for any feedback!
So far the only answer i found was the notification light as a bug or a defect. line switching is still unsolved and updating.
orouborus said:
So far the only answer i found was the notification light as a bug or a defect. line switching is still unsolved and updating.
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1) It works as it is stated in the user's manual. How can you state that it is a bug or defect? Funny... Just because it works that way on Magic or G1 does not mean that it has to be the same on Hero.
2) You cannot as your phone will automatically switch between them when one another is not available. You phone will select 3G only if it is available around where you are. If it switches to Edge/GPRS/whatever, that means you don't have 3G signals around you.
3) There are 1.000 posts on the forum here regarding updating ROM, etc. Search is our best friend.
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2) You cannot as your phone will automatically switch between them when one another is not available. You phone will select 3G only if it is available around where you are. If it switches to Edge/GPRS/whatever, that means you don't have 3G signals around you.
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You can force HSDPA, but you do so at your own risk!
You need to download AnyCut from the Market and create new shortcut to the activity "Phone Info". From this short cut, you access a screen which gives lots of diagnostic info about the phones state and there is an option to "Set preferred network type". By default this is "WCDMA Preferred", but if you want to force to always use HSDPA you should select "WCDMA Only".
Note if you do this, your phone will never drop back to 2G, even if a 2G signal is available and a 3G one isn't.
I wouldn't advise playing around with any of the other options in this screen unless you know what you are doing!
Regards,
Dave
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1) It works as it is stated in the user's manual. How can you state that it is a bug or defect? Funny... Just because it works that way on Magic or G1 does not mean that it has to be the same on Hero.
2) You cannot as your phone will automatically switch between them when one another is not available. You phone will select 3G only if it is available around where you are. If it switches to Edge/GPRS/whatever, that means you don't have 3G signals around you.
3) There are 1.000 posts on the forum here regarding updating ROM, etc. Search is our best friend.
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thanks for the info about point 2.
Thanks again!
foxmeister said:
You can force HSDPA, but you do so at your own risk!
You need to download AnyCut from the Market and create new shortcut to the activity "Phone Info". From this short cut, you access a screen which gives lots of diagnostic info about the phones state and there is an option to "Set preferred network type". By default this is "WCDMA Preferred", but if you want to force to always use HSDPA you should select "WCDMA Only".
Note if you do this, your phone will never drop back to 2G, even if a 2G signal is available and a 3G one isn't.
I wouldn't advise playing around with any of the other options in this screen unless you know what you are doing!
Regards,
Dave
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very interesting. because for my topaz i always set it to wcdma only. willing to give it a try. where can i download it? do i need a gmail account for this? cant find it any website where it can be downloaded.
Android software is downloadable via the Android Market application on your hero - any purchases are made by using a google checkout account which is set up like paypal so you don't need to enter your details all the time...
Dayzee
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Android software is downloadable via the Android Market application on your hero - any purchases are made by using a google checkout account which is set up like paypal so you don't need to enter your details all the time...
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i tried logging in the market and there are TONS of applications! had to make a gmail accouint for this. hehe!
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Ya!! What a great resource!! Very different to the WMo world and I like it a lot.....
Dayz
Before I posted this question I could not find any answers
Anyway my question is. is there a way to make everything auto like when you are not using internet automatically turn off 3g or 4g and when u use it automatically turns on 3g or 4g and my talk and text insted of going in to setting and menually turn on
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ampinc said:
Before I posted this question I could not find any answers
Anyway my question is. is there a way to make everything auto like when you are not using internet automatically turn off 3g or 4g and when u use it automatically turns on 3g or 4g and my talk and text insted of going in to setting and menually turn on
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Easily accomplished with an app in the Market called Tasker. It's over $6 but worth it to me. There's also Locale, SettingProfiles, etc but Tasker seems more feature-rich and more actively dev'ed.
When I was not rooted I was getting great battery life using Juice Defender, spend the little bit of money to get the Pro version. It will come on at a time you select to search for gmail or MMS as soon as 15m or every hour, it also has a night sch where it never lets the internet connect. You can also block apps from reaching the internet which I did often on App that wanted full internet access (yea right), it will also turn off WiFi after screen off if you select that as well. It has a ton of options and like I said was getting great battery life while lettting it manage my phone. It will also reconnect to the internet as soon as you screen on. So there you go Auto everything.
ampinc said:
Before I posted this question I could not find any answers
Anyway my question is. is there a way to make everything auto like when you are not using internet automatically turn off 3g or 4g and when u use it automatically turns on 3g or 4g and my talk and text insted of going in to setting and menually turn on
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...it will also turn off WiFi after screen off if you select that as well. .
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Your phone can do that by default if you go to wireless settings → press menu button → advanced settings → disable wifi on sleep.
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Your phone can do that by default if you go to wireless settings → press menu button → advanced settings → disable wifi on sleep.
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If your connected to WiFi it will use less power than 3g or 4g, its when your not connected and its searching for a connection that it eats up battery. I toggle WiFi on as soon as I'm home or around WiFi and off as soon as I leave.
Thanks guys fir the info I will try that
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sorry for double post, but i think it rather belongs in here, plz delete thread if not so...
I installed Toggle 2g on cm7 rom, and it worked pretty well, switching to 2g mode after 5/10/30..mins of standby. Great app in my opinion that prolongs the batterylife very good. It uses Injection. Now i got back to stock rom and wanted to ask, if someone could make a version working on stock. There is some instructions on the thread, but i didnt have success, because i dont have a zip of the 0.62 stock rom for CWM, only the ftf file for Flashtool.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739530
Thanks a lot!!!
Nobody else interested in this?
I'm intersted. I think 2g only mode is disabled ion the Three network in the UK so I would like to know how it works and if at all on this network
As far as i know, 2g (for second generation) is just the old standard internet connection, supported everywhere in the world and sucking less energy out of the battery. In a gsm phone 2g is gsm and 3g is umts/hsdpa, donno how it is on a cdma cellphone...
This would save me a ton of battery at work
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I tried resigning our phone apks to make the programm work without success.
Anyways im now using superpower again.
Old xda programm, but it works, though its not as smooth as toggle2g because it shuts down connection and afterwards switches to 2g /3g.
I'm using Data on demand which sounds like it does something similar to what you're looking for. Its free on the market and can be set to turn off data with screen off or turn data off as per a set schedule. I've been using it for a few months now
Tom
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tommoose said:
I'm using Data on demand which sounds like it does something similar to what you're looking for. Its free on the market and can be set to turn off data with screen off or turn data off as per a set schedule. I've been using it for a few months now
Tom
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no, data on demand totally switches off data connection, so that you cannot receive emails or chat messages as long as the display is off. toggle 2g just switches the band to a lower signal, so that the speed is lower and the power consumption goes down as well, but the speed is still high enough to receive mails, facebook stuff, twitter, weather... and when you switch your screen back on, you get back the full power of 3g
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no, data on demand totally switches off data connection, so that you cannot receive emails or chat messages as long as the display is off. toggle 2g just switches the band to a lower signal, so that the speed is lower and the power consumption goes down as well, but the speed is still high enough to receive mails, facebook stuff, twitter, weather... and when you switch your screen back on, you get back the full power of 3g
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In that case it sounds like what you've found would be better for me too as as you say, data on demand doesnt allow even mms when screen off
Tom
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This is a thread to help those who want to get the best battery life out of their phones. It works for both the razr/razr maxx GSM models, and should work for the CDMA models although I'm not too sure since I dont own one. The basis of this battery saving tip is the use of 2G when not using data-heavy applications and only toggling 3g when required. I've personally gone 6 days on a single charge with this, with about 3-4 hours of screen on time, push emails, facebook, whatsapp and im+pro on all the time.(take note I am using the Maxx). I know some people who turn off data connectivity when the screen is off, but that kind of defeats the purpose of having a smart phone with push notifications.
turn away now if you cant bear to be disconnected from the network for a couple of seconds as it changes connectivity.
battery consumption for connectivity are as follows: 2G<WIFI<3G<LTE. Most push notifications work fine with 2G only.
Also, I will not be held responsible for any data-loss or bricked devices. Proceed with caution!
Prerequisites:
1. Rooted (doesnt matter if it's ICS/JB.)
2. ROM that allows for 2g/3g/LTE toggle (so far, AOKP, all CM-based roms work)
OR
3) Resign the stock-based rom of your choice using this tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739530
4)Tasker or any other APP that allows automation
5) Bootmenu manager to make a backup of your system in case anything screws up and to flash the toggle2g.apk
optional
6)motomizer for underclocking/undervolting and backups
7)push notifications fixer to make sure you always stay connected to the google server for push notifications
8) Greenify for hibernating/closing programs that you dont need running when screen is off
9) Lux auto brightness to control the brightness settings, especially since we use an amoled screen, dark themes and lower brightness help immensely.
10) bloat freezer/titanium backup to freeze/delete all unneccessary bloatware
MAKE A BACKUP OF YOUR SYSTEM USING BOOTMENU MANAGER BEFORE PROCEEDING FURTHER.
for the people already using custom roms(AOKP/CM/Liquidsmooth)
step 1
In tasker, add a new profile.
Under event->system->Device boot->new task->Net->mobile data 2g/3g->mode(choose 2G only)
this will allow tasker to choose 2G only mode whenever your device boots
step 2
New profile, select application and then choose all the applications you want to use 3G/LTE in. Add new task, under Net->mobile data 2g/3g->mode(choose 3g/LTE whichever you want). save the profile.
step 3
add an exit task for the 3G/LTE toggle ->Net->mobile data 2g/3g->mode(choose 2G only)
and you're basically done!
in the event where step 1 doesnt work(tasker says this action isnt allowed in your rom or something to that effect)
go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739530 and flash the toggle2G.apk in recovery. if the app turns up in yoour device after reboot, follow the above steps, but instead of
new task->Net->mobile data 2g/3g->mode(choose 2G only), do this
new task->plugin-> toggle2g ->mobile data 2g/3g->mode(choose 2G only)
For people who prefer using the stock rom, this process will be harder(but still do-able)
step 1
Resign a stock-based rom of your choice(requires the .zip file of the rom). again, follow this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739530
step 2
if you have done this successfully and you should now have the toggle2g apk shown in your app drawer.
In tasker, add a new profile.
Under event->system->Device boot->plugin-> toggle2g ->mobile data 2g/3g->mode(choose 2G only)
this will allow tasker to choose 2G only mode whenever your device boots
step 3
New profile, select application and then choose all the applications you want to use 3G/LTE in. Add new task, ->plugin-> toggle2g ->mobile data 2g/3g->mode(choose 3g/LTE whichever you want). save the profile.
step 3
add an exit task for the 3G/LTE toggle ->plugin-> toggle2g ->mobile data 2g/3g->mode(choose 2G only)
and you're basically done!
Now for the optional bits
1) push notifications fixer will help increase the reliability of your push notifications by decreasing the intervals your device sends heartbeats to the google server. I have mine set at 3 min intervals, and it has not affected my battery life in anyway.
link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andqlimax.pushfixer&hl=en
2) Motomizer expert. I have my phone undervolted/underclocked from 300 to 1000mhz. seems to have helped with any heat issues, and is solid as a rock. if anyone needs the value of the undervolt, I will post it later on request. the exper version also allows you to make app backups like titanium backup. Take note, the current Kexec roms will not work with motomizer.
3) Greenify helps to preserve battery by not allowing the apps you specify to run in the background.
link:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5vYXNpc2ZlbmcuZ3JlZW5pZnkiXQ..
Apps that run fine on 2G(WIP)
1)Web browsers
Opera browser Mobile - usually runs okay on 2g, not for people who want absolute speed. also not recommended for data/image intensive websites
Opera Beta - still in the beta stages of it's development, but looks promising, has an offroad feature that compresses data on their servers so your device doesnt have to download so much
I usually keep the native browser and set it to toggle 3g so I can use it for faster browsing when required
2) Chat applications -
apps that work
whatsapp, im+, IMO.im, beejive - these all work fine when just sending text. If sending images or downloading images, it will be better to turn on your 3g. Push notifications for whatsapp, im+ and beejive work perfectly fine (no delay)
apps that dont
line(naver) : This app behaves strangely. It receives push notifications just fine, but it requires a second download of the text after you open the app. The process is not only slow, it is prone to mix up as well. Avoid if using this battery saving method
Gtalk: the native app also doesnt work well with 2g. Use one of the above applications if possible.
3)RSS readers
RSS junkie: the best RSS reader I have used so far. It relies not only on push notifications, but you can set it to push the entire RSS article onto your device for speedy reading instead of having to download it
4)maps
Google Maps: If you have predownloaded the map you need it works pretty well. Set it to toggle 3g as well if you need to search for something.
5)email
Gmail application works well with 2g, unless the email is
1) image heavy
2) has a big attachment to download
set 3g to toggle if you are a user who fulfils the above 2 settings
Yea 2g saves so much battery, when I was on Ics I used to use superpower, it automatically changes to 2g when the screen s off and you can turn it to 3g through the notifica bar whenever u want, easy and batt saver! Now with CM10.1 I use the toggle I love it!
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kristiangmez said:
Yea 2g saves so much battery, when I was on Ics I used to use superpower, it automatically changes to 2g when the screen s off and you can turn it to 3g through the notifica bar whenever u want, easy and batt saver! Now with CM10.1 I use the toggle I love it!
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yup it does! this is just to simplify and automate the process for lazy people like me
Thanks for share about drain of battery someone like me always consider, check and care battery life
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mydoom said:
Thanks for share about drain of battery someone like me always consider, check and care battery life
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Updated the post with some apps that work well with 2g and some that dont. Please feel free to let me know about apps you've experimented with!
I envy your battery life.
I am lucky if my phone reaches 30hours with all the battery saving tips i know. I also have a razr maxx but i guess i got a defective battery that drains like a regular razr.
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Dandroid2010 said:
I envy your battery life.
I am lucky if my phone reaches 30hours with all the battery saving tips i know. I also have a razr maxx but i guess i got a defective battery that drains like a regular razr.
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I used to last around 30hours as well on 3g all the time. the reception around my area is really bad, and sometimes drains up to 20-30% a night just on standby. That's when I started putting it on 2g and getting insane battery life
if you already have a rooted phone, you can try it out as well. I was pleasantly surprised with the result, and made sure all my iphone loving friends found out about it
Yeah my phone is rooted. Im quite sure that my battery is the problem of my phone coz i once tried to use a pure black wallpaper, 25%brightness and on 2g only but still got nearly 30hours battery life with just 3hours screen on time and average usage such as gaming, music and movies. Almost the same when i use it with a live wallpaper and 100% brightness. But still it is better than my colleagues who uses iPhone and s3 that barely survives 1day battery.
But during nighttime standby, my battery drains 10% only in 8hours.
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How did you manage to install toggle2g.apk? I get install unsuccessful
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How did you manage to install toggle2g.apk? I get install unsuccessful
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which rom are you using? stock based or CM10/AOKP based?
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which rom are you using? stock based or CM10/AOKP based?
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Stock based.. I guess we need cm10/aokp based right?
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Stock based.. I guess we need cm10/aokp based right?
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you can still use toggle2g, but it will be more complicated. If you have bootmenu manager, do a backup of your 1st/main system. then resign the stock rom of your choice using the resign tool attached at the bottom of this post. after which, flash it to the 2nd/system where u can test it out and see if it performs to your expectation before migrating it to your 1st system.
Note: after you resign, the toggle2g app will appear in your app drawer automatically.
Step 3 add an exit task.. Can't manage to do that do to do it? I have cm10 on 2nd system
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You have to long press on the original task of the profile. The popup will allow you to add an exit task
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On Stock JB ROM and using 2G only for both standby and data. I am already satisfied with the battery life without any other tweaks.
Can't wait to root it and flash it with custom ROMs and test all the tweaks you mentioned. Thanks.
Personal recommendation, try the liquiddmooth ROMs. Very stable when I tested them, espexcially the release candidates
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I'm sure this has been done with Tasker etc, but here is my way of turning off the cell radio when connected to my home wifi. Saw just shy of 6 hours screen on time today for the first time so thought I'd share.
When connected to home/work wifi, it turns off the cell radio, thereby relying on Wifi for Project Fi calls and texts. When leaving home/work wifi range, cell radio is re-enabled.
Download and install Automate: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.llamalab.automate&hl=en
Open it and click on the people icon on the top right corner of the app. Search Project Fi Airplane Mode. This is my "flow", download it then back out to the main screen.
Click "Project Fi Home Wifi=Airplane Mode". Click the pen icon on top, then Flowchart. Here we will change it from my network to yours. Click on the "when wifi connected" box. When you're connected to your home or work wifi network, select pick a network box and select it. Click done Click check mark on top. Install the permissions listed on this screen. Click start. Enjoy some nice battery savings Project Fi users!
I see, this app uses electrical grid to explain your automation, i use tasker but it requires secure settings to enable flight mode etc. Which has been broken since android L i believe, will try this app as it has the fucntions required
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I see, this app uses electrical grid to explain your automation, i use tasker but it requires secure settings to enable flight mode etc. Which has been broken since android L i believe, will try this app as it has the fucntions required
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I don't do much with Secure Settings, but it's been working fine for what I do with it, which is mostly GPS toggles. I just couldn't do system less root
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I see, this app uses electrical grid to explain your automation, i use tasker but it requires secure settings to enable flight mode etc. Which has been broken since android L i believe, will try this app as it has the fucntions required
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The Airplane Radios feature is still working perfectly from secure settings. I'm using it right now and it's working nicely! The only issue with it atm has been that, like @inzandity stated, Secure Settings does not cooperate with Systemless root, but that's really no big deal if you dont care much for Android Pay.
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I see, this app uses electrical grid to explain your automation, i use tasker but it requires secure settings to enable flight mode etc. Which has been broken since android L i believe, will try this app as it has the fucntions required
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Yes, it's really a great UI. I found the app this week and have had a lot of fun making tasks with it.
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Yes, it's really a great UI. I found the app this week and have had a lot of fun making tasks with it.
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I want to play around more with this as I like the interface. The only problem I'm having is, currently I'm using phhusson's superuser and it doesn't seem to be getting the su request from Automate. Up until now, I've used Tasker and Secure Settings to do the same and they work fine.
Tasker will do that, GravityBox will do it too, and so will multiple IFTT type apps. Not sure there is much new here.
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Tasker will do that, GravityBox will do it too, and so will multiple IFTT type apps. Not sure there is much new here.
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I'm aware of Tasker + Secure Settings, but where is this in GravityBox? I don't see anything in Smart Radio that shuts off the radio completely when connected to wifi. Also curious which apps in particular do this.
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I'm aware of Tasker + Secure Settings, but where is this in GravityBox? I don't see anything in Smart Radio that shuts off the radio completely when connected to wifi. Also curious which apps in particular do this.
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Yes, Smart Radio will not turn off the radio completely, but you can set it to 2G mode where the power consumption drops drastically relative to LTE. Now that you have pointed this out, why would you want to shut off the radio completely when connected to WiFi? That means that you loose phone functionality, and cannot receive or make phone calls.
As for apps that do this https://ifttt.com/ should work, at least before Marshmallow where Google clamped down on some settings adjustments.
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Yes, Smart Radio will not turn off the radio completely, but you can set it to 2G mode where the power consumption drops drastically relative to LTE. Now that you have pointed this out, why would you want to shut off the radio completely when connected to WiFi? That means that you loose phone functionality, and cannot receive or make phone calls.
As for apps that do this https://ifttt.com/ should work, at least before Marshmallow where Google clamped down on some settings adjustments.
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No phone functionality is lost that I'm aware of, since Project Fi calls and texts will be routed through the wifi connection.
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No phone functionality is lost that I'm aware of, since Project Fi calls and texts will be routed through the wifi connection.
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Got it, I did not read your OP in sufficient detail. For those that have Project Fi this could be value added. In my experience the 2G radio draws negligible power (standby time in 2G of a phone with a 3000mAh battery will be measured in weeks with the screen off) so the difference between fully off, and 2G only (or even 3G only) will be minor with respect to SOT, which will be dominated by the screen and wifi anyway.
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Got it, I did not read your OP in sufficient detail. For those that have Project Fi this could be value added. In my experience the 2G radio draws negligible power (standby time in 2G of a phone with a 3000mAh battery will be measured in weeks with the screen off) so the difference between fully off, and 2G only (or even 3G only) will be minor with respect to SOT, which will be dominated by the screen and wifi anyway.
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I think that's right. 2g uses very little power, unless you are in a building or house that has low signal. I work in GM factory where I can barely pull 2g data.
Is there any way you could update this to include Bluetooth turning on after airplane mode is activated in addition to wifi, that way my smart watch can always stay connected too. Either way thanks for the post, it works great!
DistortStatic said:
Is there any way you could update this to include Bluetooth turning on after airplane mode is activated in addition to wifi, that way my smart watch can always stay connected too. Either way thanks for the post, it works great!
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I just uploaded a version that will keep bluetooth on as well. Find it by searching the community for "project fi bluetooth"
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I just uploaded a version that will keep bluetooth on as well. Find it by searching the community for "project fi bluetooth"
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Thank you so much, this is going to be amazing for my battery life. Toggling airplane mode and wifi and Bluetooth just became too tedious after awhile, but now I can save power effortlessly.