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Mostly I am trying to see if this is an isolated issue with mine that might be fixed by rolling the dice again and re-flashing 2.1, but I'm sure people have interesting anecdotes to share as well.
For me, the ROM gave me severe overheating issues. Like, I would be in a heavily air conditioned room playing a video file, and after 20 minutes even though the outside doesn't feel exceptionally warm, running the internal temp monitor would show 98-100 degrees! This heated area was highly localized in the lower left corner, where according to ifixit the processor rests. Without air conditioning, even simply browsing the internet would cause it to eventually overheat.
To add to that, comparing 1.6 to 2.1 charging speed and general battery life seems to be much better after going back to 1.6. Whereas in 2.1 watching a 20-minute video could cut down my battery by 30 percent even in airplane mode, in 1.6 I lose maybe 5 percent in the same situation.
Of course even in 1.6 I am still having troubles with heat when I am in a hot environment, though I don't know if this is just the nature of running a modern smartphone in 29 degree C (84 F) weather. As an aside, has anybody had overheating issues in hot environments?
Several reasons include:
1 - Utterly crap, slow, useless & innaccurate keyboard
2 - Less icons fit on screen
3 - Only 5 home screen in which you cannot remove/add
4 - Wallpaper does not work properly, instead of filling one screen
it distorts and stretches onto all the other screens...
That's all I can think of now...
100*F after 20 minutes of video playback? That's absolutely normal. In fact it's kinda cool.
I'm back on 1.6 because:
No WMA support in stock or aftermarket players (RockPlayer did work, but that's no good for music)
I prefer the 1.6 keyboard
I like Dell's FB, Twitter and RSS widgets
I want my restricted market apps to be available
I do miss (from 2.1)
The eye-candy
Being able to charge in aeroplane mode (what is UP with that anyway?)
The dialer/contact app is great
Did I mention the eye-candy?
2.1 was very pretty and I am very much looking forward to it in an official ROM. IMHO though, it doesn't provide the functionality I need.
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100*F after 20 minutes of video playback? That's absolutely normal. In fact it's kinda cool.
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Seriously? I mean, what's the point in having a media tablet if it can't even finish a TV episode without an emergency shutdown? Is this normal for android smartphones in general, or is the streak just badly designed?
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Seriously? I mean, what's the point in having a media tablet if it can't even finish a TV episode without an emergency shutdown? Is this normal for android smartphones in general, or is the streak just badly designed?
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my guess is that the cpu throttling isnt fully implemented or that it doesnt support hardware decoding.
either way, i feel the 2.1 is pretty buggy, the facebook sync goes funny, the dell rss widget crashes every few hours, and a few more that i cant recall off the top of my head.
waiting eagerly for 2.2 to release.
I have to agree with the other posters...
- New icon spacing is terrible (what a waste of a big screen)
- Old keyboard was better
- Old recent programs menu was better
- Old camera UI was better
- Old desktop (with seperate rooms/wallpapers) was better
If the final OTA update is this bad I'm going to be sticking with 1.6 - and I'll be happy with it.
Updates are supposed to make things better, not worse.
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Several reasons include:
1 - Utterly crap, slow, useless & innaccurate keyboard
2 - Less icons fit on screen
3 - Only 5 home screen in which you cannot remove/add
4 - Wallpaper does not work properly, instead of filling one screen
it distorts and stretches onto all the other screens...
That's all I can think of now...
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Ok all of that is fixed by third party solutions. ADWlauncher rocks
Did anybody ever have trouble with videos in 2.1? I fixed my overheating issue, got it so that I could watch videos as much as I wanted in 1.6. So I went back to 2.1 thinking my biggest gripe was solved, but now, even at 30 degrees C (86 F), the thing restarts maybe ten minutes into a video.
Not sure whats behind this overheating, but i am running 2.1 since it was leaked without any issues, to be fair I have only watched about 30 mins of District 9 but ran fine.
I was really glad to see the back of 1.6, so many awesome apps were unavailable. As the other post mentioned most of the failures of the current 2.1 can be remedied with other istalls. ADW lets you set the ammount of columns and rows of icons, and up to 7 home pages, plus loads of other tweaks, themes and portrait mode.
I was super dissapointed with the new keyboard too, but the HTC multitouch keyboard is awesome and super fast with really good correction too, only thing that doesnt work yet is auto capitolisation as far as I know, and theres various skins to chose from.
For me there was also a noticable speed increase, this with proper multitouch meets my gaming needs with psx4droid. The dialer and contacts is a huge improvement, as is the stock gallery. Only thing with that is the proximity hangs sometimes and takes a while for the sceen to light up but thats pretty rare and I think that could be some app interfering...
I for one cant wait for the official 2.1 hopefully sligly ironed out release, this will nicely hold me over till froyo, which better be soon Dell!! Though I understand some people cant be bothered to tweak and play with it, just want it working out of the box. I guess coming from WM im used to that LOL..
I've had my tab for just over a week today. I use it a lot, battery is almost always dead when the day is over. I've counted the numbers of times I've had to hard rest the tab today to five. It starts with small lag spike and usually ends in the tablet going dead with in 20 seconds. Basically it goes lag spiked link dead, so to call it.
Right now I'm running overcome experience with pershoots kernel and adw launcher ex. I have tried just about every combination from stock to stock with persoots to overcome stock. With or without v6.
The tablet just always ends in some lag hell after a while.
This is a euro 3g 16g p7500.
It's smooth as silk when out works tho... Can play 3d games for hours without issue, only to open something like pulse and have it all crash.
Music really seems to make it lag tho...
Odd, mine literally never has a hard freeze no matter what I do to it. I'm on stock on my 7510 at the moment. Not sure what the diff between 7500 and 7510 is, perhaps it's a manufacturing issue?
Anyone else with these issues?
hmm... seems the issue maybe related to the swipe keyboard.
Think this is caused by the keyboard getting stuck. I can see the keyboard icon in the bottom but the keyboard doesn't show it self and after a bit the whole system just goes dead.
No lag and I have not rebooted in, let me check, 10 days and 21 hours.
What keyboard are you using?
Hi, I'm trying to connect my phone with the HDMI cable i've got in box with my full hd tv.
Everything seems to work great - except it seems that my phone slows down noticably - in games, ui responsiveness, everything - i take it may be because outputs 1080p signal to the tv and tries to upscale it?
Did anyone notice that ui responsiveness is not that smooth when the phone is connected to their tv? I was thinking there might be a way to output 720p signal to the tv instead ?
Anyone else experienced this?
It connects at 720p by default.
Ive had it connected to my Monitor at 1080 and 720 and the phone still runs great at either resolution
Can you configure how it connects ? my tv reports 1080 resolution when i plug it in.
And i have like 1/3rd of performance - especially if i try to run any game like cut the rope.
yaeh , just tested again, connects as 1080p and when its connected even scrolling of options or bringing up top dropdown bar is not fluid anymore.
What verson of firmware do you use ? Mine is 6.0.A.3.62.
Ive tried to change the "output quality" setting, but it doesnt seem to do anything in my case. I can only set scaling of phone screen on tb 80%-100% regulation.
Ok, so i've found a "scientific" measurable way to test.
In quadrant (free test in market) i get following results:
Without tv plugged in: ~3100, flyby in room with stairs 30-50 fps
With TV plugged in: ~2700, flyby in room with stairs 20-25 fps so only 50% of what i get normally and it has visible frame skip
Can someone check that on your phone and post your results?
I will give it a try as well when I am done with battery test.
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Ok, so i've found a "scientific" measurable way to test.
In quadrant (free test in market) i get following results:
Without tv plugged in: ~3100, flyby in room with stairs 30-50 fps
With TV plugged in: ~2700, flyby in room with stairs 20-25 fps so only 50% of what i get normally and it has visible frame skip
Can someone check that on your phone and post your results?
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Mine was:
Without tv plugged in: 32-42fps score: 3183
With tv plugged in: 23-26fps score: 2876
Hmmm...
ok so we do have a problem then, since your results confirm mine ....
Now i only hope this is some kind of firmware/driver issue,
Games are completly unplayable (at least for me) when phone is plugged to tv, even simple ones like Canabalt from humblebundle ....
Would be good if someone with firmware different than .62 could post their results.
Quick test with Angry Birds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auksuKwrGsE
Still on .67
Yup, I can easly see 0.5s delayed response to your finger on the movie.
Ok, any ideas what now? I'm trying to contact Sony support but so far no luck.
This is completly unacceptable for such expensive phone.
So this 0.5sec delay is what's bothering you?
Bothering? this renders this phone useless for any other gaming except things like angry birds where you dont have to react on time - besides some other games like canabalt (where you have constantly scrolling fast screen) lag and drop frames like crazy - totaly unusable. Even "cut the rope" where you need to be precise is non-playable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czrSoosZsMg
Check out this video on Xperia Arc S - in the end they run Angry Birds Rio and there is no problem like this present.
I also think that running "ubuntu for android" and using is would be a very bad experience with this kind of issues
So yeah... im pretty bothered overall with delay and 50% framedrop.
Got response from sony support that they got notified about an issue and there will be be a firmware update in next 10 days that i hope might correct the issue.
Dziękujemy za kontakt z pomocą techniczną Sony Ericsson.
W odpowiedzi na zapytanie pragniemy Pana poinformować, iż Pańskie uwagi zostaną przekazane do odpowiedniej komórki operacyjnej i uwzględnione w najbliższej aktualizacji, która pojawi się na przełomie marca i kwietnia.
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In my case ! Since i also see this problem, I solve the problem buy not using "TV launcher" I use task manger and i kill this app and i can say that fair improve
but every phone have diffrent app installed other app my influence that as well
I got only 4 screen of apps so not alot!!!
So dont blame me if does not help
BTW
i got hdmi control setting unticked as well
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Bothering? this renders this phone useless for any other gaming except things like angry birds where you dont have to react on time
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I have to admit, that's a good point. I haven't looked at this from this point of view. Now we have to wait for fix, or maybe there is a way to make it work properly.
Yeah, its interesting to me, that the video of Xperia Arc S i've posted above seems to indicate that the phone doesnt have any issues when connected to tv. So im hoping its something easly fixable with software.
I have uploaded new, longer version now, icluding Angry Birds, Quadrant and video playback:
Sony Xperia S - HDMI TV-out delay - Angry Birds + Quadrant + Playback
Found another one as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m97iy8XEXc4
Awesome work, now it would be great if we could get attention of someone who made custom roms for Xperias - Maybe they would have a better idea whats going on. On posted videos the problem is more visible.
Im not sure if its really "input lag", i would rather blame some kind of rendering problem - input lag is probably a side effect of this.
I don't have mine yet but could it be because the phone's having to render to 2 screens (one at 720 and one at 720/1080)?. Doing this on a pc increases the load on the system even if the screens are cloned - it would be the same on the phones/tablets as well.
From the little testing I did with my Archos 70 before giving up on trying to get it doing HDMI out reliably (wonky £1 adapter at fault maybe) I found that turns the internal screen off and just uses the touch area as a trackpad so as to give maximum performance to the output.
Now the specs of the Archos 70's are a bit poor at best but it does what I want it for - playing music and video while having a nice big 250gb drive. The specs on the latest round of phones should certainly have the power to run 2 screens without issue. However, any resource intensive work (games for example) would degrade performance in such situations.
Are there any similar problems when playing back video?
Maybe try some less intensive games like Robotek or Frozen Bubble?
I would rather say, there is a delay only. When watching above videos, what comes to your mind first? Delay or lag? I would say there is a delay, because picture is rather smooth. So in that case, it would be a matter of changing some settings, rather than phone can't perform running two screens. Arc s can do it, so Xperia S should be even better.
Not having used either handset and with what you've said, I'd say it's more than likely to be a software issue somewhere. Going by Sony's recent behaviour with updates and support little problems like this should be resolved sooner rather than later.
This is what is drawing me to the Xperia for my next handset as HTC seem to just abandon things once something new is out.
Once I get mine I'll hopefully be able to help out a bit more with stock rom problems.
Hello, I just picked up a HTC One X+ and was wondering if my experience is out of the ordinary, as this is the first real smartphone I've ever had. I picked up a Samsung Dart last year when I wanted a cheap smartphone, but needless to say this phone is in a different league. :good: I noticed after playing a handful of HD videos, and even standard-def video in the Chrome browser, that the top of the HOX+, back and display in front, got pretty hot. I was expecting this device to run warm occasionally, as the reviews had warned me [1], but not this hot. I downloaded the Battery Widget app and set about finding out what the problem was.
I was able to get the internal temperature up to 55 C after playing a bunch of 1080p HD videos, all downloaded from the Apple movie trailers website [2], in MX Player, which seems to decode in software most of the time. I think 1080p decoding takes up 2 cores out of the 4, as the load average in Android is usually around 2 when I enable the Show CPU Usage overlay. I then really stressed it by playing more than a dozen 1080p HD videos back to back for 30-40 minutes straight, and got it up to 60 C, as shown in the screenshot. At that point, the top of the phone was pretty damn hot; it wouldn't burn you, but you wouldn't want to put it up to your head for a phone call.
Do all these quad-core smartphones get this hot or is mine possibly defective? I've been looking for other threads that mention overheating, on this phone and others like the GS3 or Note 2, looks like a few people have been able to get their HOX/+ up to the 60s occasionally [3], while other quad-core phones hit high 40s and low 50s max.
This is a very good smartphone otherwise, haven't gotten voice and internet activated yet, but the display is beautiful and the software is very snappy. The audio seems to crackle a bit in podcasts, not sure if it's the speaker or decoding software. Photos are good, not great, and video is average, both don't seem as good as what I've seen from the original Galaxy Note. But these are the handful of blemishes, it's a very good device in most other ways, pleasure to use the display and the nice build fits my hand well.
Should the overheating be a deal-breaker or am I just being too picky with my first real smartphone? The video is important to me: I was planning on using this phone to watch HD video on the go, on that beautiful 720p display. I'm torn, let me know what you think.
I can't post links as a new user, so here they are for copy and pasting:
[1] notebookcheck.net/Review-HTC-One-X-Smartphone.88355.0.html
[2] trailers.apple.com
[3] jayceooi.com/2012/04/24/htc-one-x-overheat-up-to-63-8-%C2%B0c/
At 60.4 C skin will burn... Does the phone continue to run at that temp or does it shutdown? Also, is you phone stock or have you done modifications? I do not believe that to be normal. My phone has gotten hot before but never hot enough to burn. I suggest contacting HTC for their opinion. They would want to know if they have phones in circulation that can actually cause harm when used.
Sent from my HTC One X+ using xda app-developers app
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At 60.4 C skin will burn... Does the phone continue to run at that temp or does it shutdown? Also, is you phone stock or have you done modifications? I do not believe that to be normal. My phone has gotten hot before but never hot enough to burn. I suggest contacting HTC for their opinion. They would want to know if they have phones in circulation that can actually cause harm when used.
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My HOX+ continues to run fine when its status is Overheat, as far as I can tell. I'm running the HTC Sense 4+ Android 4.1.1 that comes with the HOX+, specifically HTC build 1.17.707.1. I have not modified the pre-installed Android software at all, other than adding a few apps. The temperature drops back into the 50s within a minute and back to the baseline mid-30s within 2-3 mins.
Do you run HD videos for half an hour or more at a time? Because if not, I haven't been able to stress my HOX+ that much in any other way that I normally use it, as I don't play heavy 3D games. I have been thinking about trying to stress it with the Nvidia Glowball demo that got it really hot for that guy in the third link I gave, just to see how hot it gets that way.
If anybody else can try the same HD videos and see if they can reproduce, that might help. You can download 1080p HD trailers at davestrailerpage.co.uk (use the procedure linked at the top "Apple Trailer Download Tips" for Apple trailers) and play several of them back to back in MX Player- best in playlist mode with no break between videos, that's what I did to get the temp up that high- to see if you can get the same internal temperature in the Battery Widget app by Elvison, though other apps that report battery temperature may report the same number. Or there's always the Glowball demo.
I don't think the outside of the HOX+ actually reaches 60 C, I think that is an internal temperature, the outside is likely a bit cooler. I was able to hold the top of the phone in my hands after it got that hot. It was uncomfortable and I just wouldn't want to put it up to my ears and face!
I will contact HTC soon and see what they say. It would help if others can independently verify similar behavior.
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My HOX+ continues to run fine when its status is Overheat, as far as I can tell. I'm running the HTC Sense 4+ Android 4.1.1 that comes with the HOX+, specifically HTC build 1.17.707.1. I have not modified the pre-installed Android software at all, other than adding a few apps. The temperature drops back into the 50s within a minute and back to the baseline mid-30s within 2-3 mins.
Do you run HD videos for half an hour or more at a time? Because if not, I haven't been able to stress my HOX+ that much in any other way that I normally use it, as I don't play heavy 3D games. I have been thinking about trying to stress it with the Nvidia Glowball demo that got it really hot for that guy in the third link I gave, just to see how hot it gets that way.
If anybody else can try the same HD videos and see if they can reproduce, that might help. You can download 1080p HD trailers at davestrailerpage.co.uk (use the procedure linked at the top "Apple Trailer Download Tips" for Apple trailers) and play several of them back to back in MX Player- best in playlist mode with no break between videos, that's what I did to get the temp up that high- to see if you can get the same internal temperature in the Battery Widget app by Elvison, though other apps that report battery temperature may report the same number. Or there's always the Glowball demo.
I don't think the outside of the HOX+ actually reaches 60 C, I think that is an internal temperature, the outside is likely a bit cooler. I was able to hold the top of the phone in my hands after it got that hot. It was uncomfortable and I just wouldn't want to put it up to my ears and face!
I will contact HTC soon and see what they say. It would help if others can independently verify similar behavior.
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I had exactly the same problem, i too was considering returning the phone, whilst playing mp4`s the phone would heat up to the point that the status led flashes red and green (external about 45 C), the battery would only last about 2 hrs too, i then flashed arhd and elitekernel, now the phone never heats up even when playing 3d games such as horn, nova 3, mc4, etc and battery life is great with about 5-7 hours of hd mp4 playback depending on brightness, of course flashing these things involves rooting so if you are not willing to make the risk you are probably better off returning the phone.
I have the same problem (it's over 62 C degree). I sent my phone to their official service. They changed the mainboard but it didn't solve the overheating problem. Then everything on my phone went wrong: Overheating, screen flickering, battery drains (phone closes at 14% battery), custom lags...
Evereytime I asked about the problems they told me the same. "Heat is normal... You're the first person who claim this problem... Send your phone to our service..." etc. However, their empty words didn't solve my problem.000
So, I sued to the HTC and it's distributor here.
I purchased a refurbished Nexus 9 a year and a half ago. I've used ROMs to get it to 7.x and get all the regular updates OTA, currently on the May 5th security update. I've been playing CSR Racing 2 on it for about 9 months. The game has many known issues on Android of all versions and all devices, including crashing to "desktop". This problem is more unique. At almost any given moment in-game I can get a whited out or nearly opaque white, blocky screen overlaying the game image. At the same time, usually, an ear-piercing squeal kicks off. I have the volume at zero at all times, btw.
I've done everything except wipe the thing and re-install. Interestingly, I've had the problem outside the game once, although I can't recall what I was doing at the time. I'm inclined to believe it's the hardware. I actually ordered a Shield, and should be receiving it tomorrow, believing that it's the hardware. Once that is received and the game is up and running - unless I have the same problem on the Shield (meaning the problem's in the game or my profile itself) - I will be wiping the Nexus 9 and finding out once and for all if the thing's toast. In that vein, I have two questions.
One, is there some type of diagnostic I could run to check the limits of this tablet? CSR2 is very taxing on hardware, especially Android, and pushes it very hard. I'm wondering if there's a diagnostic that is a stress tester of sorts that I could use to see if there is any specific problem with the hardware.
Secondly, is there a ROM folks think may have better hardware interfacing for the memory, CPU/GPU, than stock Android? Obviously, I'd like the diagnostic to test the hardware while the new tablet will test whether it's the game/profile. What I won't have tested is the Android OS itself. Any recommendations?
Thanks for your time and any help that you may be able to offer!
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I purchased a refurbished Nexus 9 a year and a half ago. I've used ROMs to get it to 7.x and get all the regular updates OTA, currently on the May 5th security update. I've been playing CSR Racing 2 on it for about 9 months. The game has many known issues on Android of all versions and all devices, including crashing to "desktop". This problem is more unique. At almost any given moment in-game I can get a whited out or nearly opaque white, blocky screen overlaying the game image. At the same time, usually, an ear-piercing squeal kicks off. I have the volume at zero at all times, btw.
I've done everything except wipe the thing and re-install. Interestingly, I've had the problem outside the game once, although I can't recall what I was doing at the time. I'm inclined to believe it's the hardware. I actually ordered a Shield, and should be receiving it tomorrow, believing that it's the hardware. Once that is received and the game is up and running - unless I have the same problem on the Shield (meaning the problem's in the game or my profile itself) - I will be wiping the Nexus 9 and finding out once and for all if the thing's toast. In that vein, I have two questions.
One, is there some type of diagnostic I could run to check the limits of this tablet? CSR2 is very taxing on hardware, especially Android, and pushes it very hard. I'm wondering if there's a diagnostic that is a stress tester of sorts that I could use to see if there is any specific problem with the hardware.
Secondly, is there a ROM folks think may have better hardware interfacing for the memory, CPU/GPU, than stock Android? Obviously, I'd like the diagnostic to test the hardware while the new tablet will test whether it's the game/profile. What I won't have tested is the Android OS itself. Any recommendations?
Thanks for your time and any help that you may be able to offer!
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Hi, Kazz5...
I can't comment on CSR Racing 2, having never played it myself, however the crash symptoms you describe - a largely white, blocky, garbled pixelated screen accompanied with a loud, high pitched banshee like squealing or shrieking noise (it scared the crap out of me the first time it happened ) is certainly something I've experienced myself several times on my Nexus 9.
I've had this spectacular and very noisy crash happen whilst playing Minecraft and whilst playing old (1990s) pinball games via video game emulator apps. But it's also happened when doing something no more taxing on the hardware than checking my emails with Inbox or browsing the web using Chrome.
There doesn't seem to be any logically consistent reason why it happens or under what circumstances are required in order for it to happen. It just happens, suddenly and unexpectedly, and then I find myself hurriedly scrambling around for the power button and long pressing it in order to make the ear piercing howl go away!
I've noticed when it happens my battery is on the low side, usually less than 25%, although I'm uncertain whether this is the actual cause.
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Recently I flashed the Fire-Ice kernel , primarily for the purpose of improving the thin, weedy audio that Andoid Nougat 7.1.1 suffers from on the Nexus 9. (See my post here.)
Now it could just be a complete coincidence or maybe the unique circumstances required to trigger this crash haven't yet arisen on my Nexus 9 since I flashed it - in other words, perhaps I haven't been running it long enough yet, but since flashing Fire-Ice eight days ago, I've had no recurrence of this hard and spectacular crash as you and I have described.
Flashing this kernal though, will cause complications (but not insurmountable ones) when the June OTA security patch is due from Google in around three weeks or so.
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Sorry I couldn't provide a more definitive solution to this problem... or suggest any diagnostics of the type you allude to or suggest solutions regarding CSR Racing 2. If this game is as cutting edge as you suggest, it may be asking more than the now two and half year old Nexus 9 can deliver.
Minecraft, old pinball games and Solitaire card games are about as high octane as it gets for me these days .
Good luck with your Shield and I hope you have a better experience playing CSR Racing 2 on it than on the Nexus 9, and which I suspect you probably will. The Nexus 9 has been riven with a variety of problems ever since it was released back in November 2014, and this seemingly random, complete crashing of the device is unfortunately one of 'em .
Rgrds,
Ged.
I read this reply via email before taking the time to come here and I just want to say thanks for such a thorough sharing of your experience and perspective! You made it clear to me that ordering a Shield was the right thing to do in my case. Interestingly, my Nexus 9 did the squeal/crash in another app soon after I posted this.
My Shield came in, upgraded painlessly, OTA, to 7.0.0 and seems to run much smoother than the Nexus 9 in every way. Yes, the screen is a bit smaller. But, frankly, I'm seeing less pixelation - I have to assume - due to the smaller screen size. The Shield runs cooler (I used to blow on the hot end of the Nexus 9 when holding it in my hands, in it's case, for longer periods of time) and the battery definitely lasts longer.
I will finish moving everything over to the Shield in the coming few days and make up my mind what I want to do with the Nexus 9. With it's large size and 4:3 aspect ratio, I may relegate it to electronic magazine reading - of which I have a few. I saw a reference to running some flavor of *nix on it. That could be interesting. A touch panel for security cameras is a thought, if do-able, as well. I'm sure more thoughts will come up, including getting a more stable Android installed on it.
Please keep me/us posted on your experiences with the Fire-Ice kernel! And thank you again!
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Hi, Kazz5...
I can't comment on CSR Racing 2, having never played it myself, however the crash symptoms you describe - a largely white, blocky, garbled pixelated screen accompanied with a loud, high pitched banshee like squealing or shrieking noise (it scared the crap out of me the first time it happened ) is certainly something I've experienced myself several times on my Nexus 9.
I've had this spectacular and very noisy crash happen whilst playing Minecraft and whilst playing old (1990s) pinball games via video game emulator apps. But it's also happened when doing something no more taxing on the hardware than checking my emails with Inbox or browsing the web using Chrome.
There doesn't seem to be any logically consistent reason why it happens or under what circumstances are required in order for it to happen. It just happens, suddenly and unexpectedly, and then I find myself hurriedly scrambling around for the power button and long pressing it in order to make the ear piercing howl go away!
I've noticed when it happens my battery is on the low side, usually less than 25%, although I'm uncertain whether this is the actual cause.
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A Possible Solution...
Recently I flashed the Fire-Ice kernel , primarily for the purpose of improving the thin, weedy audio that Andoid Nougat 7.1.1 suffers from on the Nexus 9. (See my post here.)
Now it could just be a complete coincidence or maybe the unique circumstances required to trigger this crash haven't yet arisen on my Nexus 9 since I flashed it - in other words, perhaps I haven't been running it long enough yet, but since flashing Fire-Ice eight days ago, I've had no recurrence of this hard and spectacular crash as you and I have described.
Flashing this kernal though, will cause complications (but not insurmountable ones) when the June OTA security patch is due from Google in around three weeks or so.
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Sorry I couldn't provide a more definitive solution to this problem... or suggest any diagnostics of the type you allude to or suggest solutions regarding CSR Racing 2. If this game is as cutting edge as you suggest, it may be asking more than the now two and half year old Nexus 9 can deliver.
Minecraft, old pinball games and Solitaire card games are about as high octane as it gets for me these days .
Good luck with your Shield and I hope you have a better experience playing CSR Racing 2 on it than on the Nexus 9, and which I suspect you probably will. The Nexus 9 has been riven with a variety of problems ever since it was released back in November 2014, and this seemingly random, complete crashing of the device is unfortunately one of 'em .
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I wanted to follow-up with you on an experience. I moved to the Shield K1 and have been using it since May. Something's happened with it's charging (I suspect the mini-USB port's connection as it seems to be a weak spot for many). In a pinch, to keep playing my game of choice, I picked up my Nexus 9 and gave it a full charge. I was thrilled since it was working so well. But once it hit 58% charge the weird screen and shrill shrieking returned. Now cornered, I did my best google-fu and uncovered a couple of threads that claimed I could fix my Nexus 9!
It seems many people were having success with removing the back panel (easy), gently prying a small, metal cover off of the battery's connection at the circuit board, unplugging the cable, cleaning connections with isopropyl alcohol, and re-assembling. I found a Youtube link (ifixit, I think?) there that showed how to disassemble the Nexus 9 and I was off! It seems some folks have had this clear up the problem for months and some have had it recur, fixing it again with the same procedure.
I've been using it for days in all states of charge with no return of the problem so far. It's given me plenty of time to get my warranty-replacement Shield enroute. The Shield is still much quicker. But I'm thrilled that there's not some odd gremlin with the Nexus 9. I knew I needed to track this post and your reply down in order to let you know. I hope it helps you and/or someone else!
And thanks again!
Just wanted to bump this thread as I am having the same problem with my N9 and it is steadily getting worse. When this problem first started, it would happen once every 2-3 weeks, usually when I was in Instagram. Now it is happening daily, or multiple times in a day, and sometimes it occurs right after reboot.
I have gotten frustrated enough that I am going to do a clean (reflash) of Pure Nexus, ElemX, etc and see if that has any effect.
Did you read my reply? Cleaning the connector to the battery has fixed my issues - which were constant - for weeks now!
I just got one of these Nexus 9 32GB giving to me by a family member as they upgraded to something else due to the issues with the Nexus 9 . It had the whole deal going on with the white pixelated screen freezing followed by a loud ear busting screeching noise at roughly 50% and 20% battery. I factory reset the tablet and cleaned the cache in recovery then popped back off the tablet and disconnected battery for a min or two, hooked it back up and it runs like butter so far for the last week through the whole cycle of the battery without freezing or screeching. Strange indeed but that fix works for whatever reason.