I was cruising around doing some reading today and found a thread where someone had managed to pull the stock recovery out of an SBF file and replace it with Clockwork. They even made a "recovery only" sbf file and successfully installed it on their phone.
So from what I can gather, this would allow people to flash ROMs, themes, etc. without having to unlock and install a new recovery? You would have Clockwork with a locked bootloader?
Someone shed some light on this for me, please.
I think the bootloader still needs to be unlocked because of the signature verification.
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I think the bootloader still needs to be unlocked because of the signature verification.
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Not so much signature validation, because that is a function of the recovery - but unlocking the partitions to be written too.
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Not so much signature validation, because that is a function of the recovery - but unlocking the partitions to be written too.
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Thanks for clarifying, I wasn't quite sure.
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I think I understand now, thanks. I was under the assumption that since Motorola are technically the only ones who are creating the sbf files, that they would be trusted by the devices to do as they please. Again, I am just learning here so thanks for whatever info comes about on this.
If anyone is at all interested in the thread I stumbled upon:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/hacking-help/39606-making-sbf-file-2.html
^^ there it is. It's dated, but I thought it might hold some ideas(?)
This was done in a way back with the moment. Could use the manufacturers flash tool and flash rooted and unlocked stock based roms
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This was done in a way back with the moment. Could use the manufacturers flash tool and flash rooted and unlocked stock based roms
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Odin, and still the best way to mod imo
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Yeah, I realize it was a bit dated but it seemed like a good way to do things. I would like to see even simple things like deodexed stuff in sbf, but it's not sounding like it's that simple.
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Hey guys I'm new to posting on here so forgive me if this is in the wrong area. I have rooted using HTCs method due to 1.5 hboot. From what I've gathered I cannot flash a kernel through recovery but when I do attempt to flash a kernel it says completed. For example if I flash a new ROM and I get the WiFi error message I flash another kernel then my WiFi works. My main question is am i really successfully flashing a kernel or does it just say it did. I would think if it wasn't working then my WiFi error would continue.
Thanks
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I'm not sure which method you are using to flash roms.
But using this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
second post in the thread.
I've flashed many roms and kernels that way, after doing the htc unlock, and I've had no problems.
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Hey guys I'm new to posting on here so forgive me if this is in the wrong area. I have rooted using HTCs method due to 1.5 hboot. From what I've gathered I cannot flash a kernel through recovery but when I do attempt to flash a kernel it says completed. For example if I flash a new ROM and I get the WiFi error message I flash another kernel then my WiFi works. My main question is am i really successfully flashing a kernel or does it just say it did. I would think if it wasn't working then my WiFi error would continue.
Thanks
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You got an accidental "thanks", congrats on your first lol.
If you go into menu>settings>about phone, your kernel is listed there. Good luck!
Thanks! I flash roms through TWRP recovery. When I attempt to flash a kernel I do it through TWRP as well. Is there a chance that I can successfully flash kernels through recovery even though I rooted htcs way? What I'm getting at is everyone seems to not like to root with htcs way but I'm not really seeing the drawback to it.
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Thanks! I flash roms through TWRP recovery. When I attempt to flash a kernel I do it through TWRP as well. Is there a chance that I can successfully flash kernels through recovery even though I rooted htcs way? What I'm getting at is everyone seems to not like to root with htcs way but I'm not really seeing the drawback to it.
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Each phone is quirky, so it's possible you got lucky, a S-off dev phone, or "like new" previously rooted phone. If it works, I wouldn't question it
LOL I have s-on that's what is so puzzling oh well LOL
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I just got a new photon and i was wandering if there was a method to unlock the bootlaoder. The sales rep updated the software so i have version 45.2.7 is there a way to unlock it and root it. Any ideas will help
You have a lot of reading to do. Go to the development section.
I know theres alot on the section part i just need to know which method works for this version.
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I just got a new photon and i was wandering if there was a method to unlock the bootlaoder. The sales rep updated the software so i have version 45.2.7 is there a way to unlock it and root it. Any ideas will help
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I think you can run the bootloader from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216143
Flash it in RSDlite. It will fail, but don't panic. Pull the battery, and run the moto-fastboot command lines to verify that you've been unlocked. You can then root either via the photon-torpedo method, or AIO root method.
Good luck, and remember to charge your phone all the way!
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I just got a new photon and i was wandering if there was a method to unlock the bootlaoder. The sales rep updated the software so i have version 45.2.7 is there a way to unlock it and root it. Any ideas will help
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No, there is not yet a fully functional unlocker. There's one that mostly works but it breaks 4G.
You can root it just fine, though, without unlocking it.
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No, there is not yet a fully functional unlocker. There's one that mostly works but it breaks 4G.
You can root it just fine, though, without unlocking it.
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Good point..yes I did forget to mention that 4G is borked.
So you can root it without unlocking it i really dont care about 4g its not in the area im in
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Yeah, you can root without unlocking. There are a few ways..I personally like the one click and photon torpedo methods.
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So the one click will allow you to install roms and all and do you have the link for that form i gotta get all this blur crap of my phone.
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For roms u need a bootloader
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Ok so i have to unlock the bootloader then root or can i root and install cwm to flash roms
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Ok so i have to unlock the bootloader then root or can i root and install cwm to flash roms
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Yeah if you want custom roms, you'll need to unlock the bootloader. It's a really easy process
1) Get RSDlite
2) Get the unlocked bootloader SBF file and flash it
3) Run the cmd lines to check to see if you're unlocked
4) Root and install CWM
5) Flash away!
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So you can root it without unlocking it i really dont care about 4g its not in the area im in
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Please read again. The unlocker is what breaks 4G, not root.
Ok whats RSD ive never use that before and do i flash that sbf file from the sd card
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Sorry im just trying to find a easy way of rooting and installing roms ive rooted other phones before but im just confused on this one
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Ok whats RSD ive never use that before and do i flash that sbf file from the sd card
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With all due respect, all the info you want is already posted here. Read more, post less ....
I have read but theres so many methods thats why im asking
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I have read but theres so many methods thats why im asking
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Read:
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216143
Watch:
- http://www.youtube.com/user/qbking77#p/search/6/BwRjFrzClBs
- http://www.youtube.com/user/qbking77#p/search/1/UfJJ0h4d-80
It's okay to ask questions, just do your best to do some research and try out the different methods...I still have a ton of questions..I'm a noob to Photon too.
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Ok so i have to unlock the bootloader then root or can i root and install cwm to flash roms
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You have to unlock the bootloader then root to be able to install any custom rom
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Get guys...I finally got the bootloader unlocked, time to root! I had planned to use the method by hasoon 2000 but after I downloaded winrar I tried to get his toolkit and it won't let me in the download page. Any ideas and is this the best method for perm s off?
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Link works fine for me.
http://d-h.st/mue
Thanks man, I really appreciate the help. That's not the page that came up for me..Lol. when it comes to the recovery, what would you suggest.. CWM or the ext4? Sorry, I'm a noob.
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coachmoore said:
Thanks man, I really appreciate the help. That's not the page that came up for me..Lol. when it comes to the recovery, what would you suggest.. CWM or the ext4? Sorry, I'm a noob.
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Ext4, simplest touch recovery with support.
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Thanks! I asked on that particular thread, but you seem to have alot if knowledge on it, so I'll just ask here as well. Since I already have bootloader unlocked, do I just jump right over to the recovery selection, then to perm root? Also.. when do I need to plug my phone in and do I need to be just normal on or in the screen from volume down and power? Does it give superuser and busy box? Sorry about all the dumb noob questions, just don't want to brick this thing.
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coachmoore said:
Thanks! I asked on that particular thread, but you seem to have alot if knowledge on it, so I'll just ask here as well. Since I already have bootloader unlocked, do I just jump right over to the recovery selection, then to perm root? Also.. when do I need to plug my phone in and do I need to be just normal on or in the screen from volume down and power? Does it give superuser and busy box? Sorry about all the dumb noob questions, just don't want to brick this thing.
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At least you're being nice about it, that counts for something, okay here goes:
1. Yes, go straight to recovery because you'll need it to root.
2. Rooting only gives you super user, not busybox, but you can always download busybox from the android market
3. You can be on normal screen or fastboot, it doesn't matter, the tool will detect which one you are on and reboot it into whichever screen it needs. Remember to turn usb debugging on so the tool can find the phone.
4. You can't brick if you're not s-off
You can also have a look see in the amaze bible thread, we give a lot of info about this device in there, I'd be happy to help you once you are willing to work with me as well and once you read instructions veeerry carefully before trying anything.
Gotta be nice when asking dumb questions! Lmao!!! I'm not completely new to this, my G2 was rooted and I was a flashaholic...Lol. For some reason, this just seems much more daunting.
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Also..do I need to back up this room that's in here now, before I try rooting in case something goes wrong?
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And it says flash your kernel. Do I need to get one and put it in my sd card?
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And it says flash your kernel. Do I need to get one and put it in my sd card?
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Ignore the kernel option unless you're installing a new rom, no you don't need to backup if you're just rooting the device, but you can make a backup and keep it just in case you need it, it's not that daunting when you get the hang of it like I did, this was my very first HTC device, so unlike you, I didn't have a little previous experience lol.
Coachmoore - its safe to have atleast one backup before flashing a different Rom. Just in case the Rom you want to flash might of downloaded corrupt or if you get stuck in bootloops.
If you're using 4EXT recovery then don't worry about kernel flashing. It will flash it for you. Any other recovery won't.
Just he sure to let it boot 2times before thinking anything is wrong.
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Ok,2 more questions and i promise ill shut up. I was gonna use a new rom so is that what it means by flash kernel? And it says this doesnt give s-off... i thought that was rooting. What is the difference? The whole reason for wanting to root is to use differe3nt roms, oc, etc... can u do that with s-on?
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Coachmoore - its safe to have atleast one backup before flashing a different Rom. Just in case the Rom you want to flash might of downloaded corrupt or if you get stuck in bootloops.
If you're using 4EXT recovery then don't worry about kernel flashing. It will flash it for you. Any other recovery won't.
Just he sure to let it boot 2times before thinking anything is wrong.
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Ok, how do I back this one up? I've only done that with Rom manager and it has to have root.
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Ok, how do I back this one up? I've only done that with Rom manager and it has to have root.
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When in recovery, choose the backup/restore option to backup your current rom. S-off is not the same as rooting, read the amaze bible thread to know the difference of the two.
Thanks for all of your help!
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Did volume down/power but didn't see anything about backing up.
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4EXT is a touch recovery. There's a thread in the Development section. Read the OP of it. There should be screen shots of how its supposed to look like.
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Thanks for all of your help, guys!! I am rooted! Couldn't have done it without you guys help..again, thanks!
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Is it possible to flash a custom recovery with the locked bootloader? I'm used to HTC and am not to familiar with Motorola's Android
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I have already successfully rooted, and attempted to flash CWM recovery from Rom Manager, but I am unable to get to recovery. I tried to unlock the bootloader with RDS Lite flashing derpunlock from the puddin forum, not the 2.3.5, but it failed
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jordan.nave said:
Is it possible to flash a custom recovery with the locked bootloader? I'm used to HTC and am not to familiar with Motorola's Android
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Need to use the boot strap recovery, MOTODX_Bootstrap_Signed.apk. Its based off Clockwork. Make sure you only try to flash locked roms though. If you try and flash anything not supported your more than likely going to be on my boat... Softbricked. I was a flashaholic with my Evo, now im a bricked bum looking for light...
Look in Lokifish Mars Sticky on all thing Mopho. It has links to everything you will need in it.
No you cannot flash a custom recovery on a locked bootloader.
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not possible for now. I tried it already and it is unsuccessful
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I have already successfully rooted, and attempted to flash CWM recovery from Rom Manager, but I am unable to get to recovery. I tried to unlock the bootloader with RDS Lite flashing derpunlock from the puddin forum, not the 2.3.5, but it failed.
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I'm in the same boat. I just got a used Photon and it already had the 2.3.5 (45.4.13 254_13) ROM on it. I got it rooted successfully at least, but get the error when trying to install the DERPUNLOCK.SFB file.
Any solutions out there yet? Can the unit be SBF-ed back to 198_7 and then the bootloader unlocked?
(I'm sorry if this is a redundant question, but I haven't found a clear answer and have searched the forums extensively!)
THANKS!
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Need to use the boot strap recovery, MOTODX_Bootstrap_Signed.apk. Its based off Clockwork. Make sure you only try to flash locked roms though. If you try and flash anything not supported your more than likely going to be on my boat... Softbricked. I was a flashaholic with my Evo, now im a bricked bum looking for light...
Look in Lokifish Mars Sticky on all thing Mopho. It has links to everything you will need in it.
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Okay, I successfully flashed bootstrap recovery, what ROMS do I need to look out for and not flash?
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Okay, I successfully flashed bootstrap recovery, what ROMS do I need to look out for and not flash?
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What version you on, Android version. 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 ?
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jordan.nave said:
Okay, I successfully flashed bootstrap recovery, what ROMS do I need to look out for and not flash?
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Your only real option is mof2.3.5 unless you want to run a rom that is not supported anymore ie imperium, rocko, skinny. Mofs rom is damn good though. Give it a shot and see what you think.
If your on 2.3.4 go with mofo2.3.5ish if your on 2.3.5, don't flash any roms locked or unlocked. Just be happy your phone works!
The reason being is because will the roms are based on 2.3.4 and since 2.3.5 locked bootloader, anything 2.3.4 based will cause you to soft brick, with no sprint sbf to fall back on. Peetr and mo are actively working on a working sbf for those who are on USC electrify sbf.
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I'm on 2.3.5, and i really don't care about breaking 4G or anything CDMA... Only need GSM if that's possible...
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Signed boot.img with its modules is needed to install after each locked rom.
Don't want to sound like a n00b, but where would those be in the ROM threads? I'm so used to HTC's phones, so going to this Photon makes me feel like I'm starting from scratch...
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Actually nowhere yet. You need to wait.
Ohh okay. I'll just sit back and wait for the devs. Really wish I hadn't traded my Evo LTE for this Photon....
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Any progress on unlocking the bootloader on the OTA 253_13 build?
Still curious about being able to sbf downgrade to 254_7...
And info GREATLY appreciated.
Does anyone know where I can get the stock gingerbread images? I have a bootloader locked Atrix and I'm getting "failed to boot 1" and I can't flash with RSDlite because it can't switch to bp passthrough mode. So I'm thinking I can fix it if I can flash the fastboot images because it can boot to fastboot.
Thanks.
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Fruitcakes. Use search.
Fruitcakes won't work on a locked bootloader. They have to be the completely unmodified images for it to work.
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Oh. Then you need a SBF. But you won't find that here, they have all been taken down.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29552599
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Thank, hopefully what I'm looking for is there.
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Oh. Then you need a SBF. But you won't find that here, they have all been taken down.
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It would be great if you read my OP.
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Oops, my bad. Missed the part about RSD.
In that case, I'm not sure there is much you can do. As far as I know, original "images" only ever come as SBFs. Anything else derived from those will not be original as it won't have the proper Motorola signature, which is obviously a problem since you have a locked BL.
I found this link, and others, that has a link to the fastboot images but the link is now dead, does anyone have a copy of them?
http://www.androidauthority.com/atrix-4g-revert-4-5-91-stock-firmware-52952/