Am I the Only person who got a Perfect Amaze with No defects?
I LOVE THIS FREAKIN" PHONE
Only thing, that pink TMO Goodbye animation on power down , its got to go, they could have made it blue, yeah, yeah I know - TMO likes pink, easy fix when Rooted & S-OFF
Come on people, some of the comments are something else, guess your previous phone was absolutely Perfect from first boot, there was not need to root or personalize them in anyway.
I went from a G2x to the Amaze. G2x was awesome, rooted with CM7 and it was exactly what I wanted in a phone, except for the fact that the camera in the G2x was awful and even with a custom rom, it would still lock up.
As soon as I root my Amaze and uninstall sense and the other bloatware preinstalled (seriously 31 apps preinstalled I have 0 use for) this device will be near 100% perfect for me.
My only fear is that the camera app is tied into sense and freezing that will mess that up, but we'll just have to see, unless someone who's already done it can attest.
Yes, I am really enjoying this phone. There's so many things I like about it. Especially those two little camera buttons. I have the white model and its absolutely gorgeous. I honestly have no reason to root right now. If you were to install a custom Rom you would lose a lot of features. The camera would have a lot less function without the built in Sense features.
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I am with you on that - this baby is something else, just needs a little de-bloat, though I cannot see any lag at all even with all the default SF
Only thing I have planned after root is some of my favorite apps for rooted phones
I did eventually get my MT4G running like a dream, the Amaze is like my MT4G on a double dose of Roids - right out the box
Perfect size phone & screen, I dislike Tablets, the Amaze is a great tweener.
Sent from My Virtuous MT4G - While conditioning Amaze battery - see if that battery memory thing does work
Are you confirming that the features for the camera are tied to sense or are you sepculating?
I have no intentions of going for a custom rom at this point, I just want to freeze sense and a bunch of other bloat. I was able to lag the phone significantly by installing launcher pro, but I think it was fighting sense the whole time.
CalicoJeb said:
Am I the Only person who got a Perfect Amaze with No defects?
I LOVE THIS FREAKIN" PHONE
Only thing, that pink TMO Goodbye animation on power down , its got to go, they could have made it blue, yeah, yeah I know - TMO likes pink, easy fix when Rooted & S-OFF
Come on people, some of the comments are something else, guess your previous phone was absolutely Perfect from first boot, there was not need to root or personalize them in anyway.
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Does your microSD Card slot work? Mines seem faulty =(
Spovik said:
Are you confirming that the features for the camera are tied to sense or are you sepculating?
I have no intentions of going for a custom rom at this point, I just want to freeze sense and a bunch of other bloat. I was able to lag the phone significantly by installing launcher pro, but I think it was fighting sense the whole time.
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Just go into the camera app and see for yourself. All the different modes and the picture editing features are all features of Sense. Install a custom rom and you lose all of that.
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Does your microSD Card slot work? Mines seem faulty =(
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My card slot works fine, I installed a 8GB card I have just to get going, formatted using the phone and all is well.
Make sure its not the mem card itself, I have had a couple bad ones here and there
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My card slot works fine, I installed a 8GB card I have just to get going, formatted using the phone and all is well.
Make sure its not the mem card itself, I have had a couple bad ones here and there
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I tried 3 different ones I have from my G2 and Nexus 1, on those phones, it works fine, on the Amaze, it gives me these errors:
Damaged SD Card
Removed SD card
It won't let me mount or format them through the phone. I formatted them through the computer fine but the phone won't read them. Brought it to the T-Mobile store they said they'll replace the phone.. so hopefully it's just my unit..
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I tried 3 different ones I have from my G2 and Nexus 1, on those phones, it works fine, on the Amaze, it gives me these errors:
Damaged SD Card
Removed SD card
It won't let me mount or format them through the phone. I formatted them through the computer fine but the phone won't read them. Brought it to the T-Mobile store they said they'll replace the phone.. so hopefully it's just my unit..
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Well the card I used was never used in a previous phone, was in a camera, doubt if that would be any issue at all, should not be one - post an update when you get the replacement
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Just go into the camera app and see for yourself. All the different modes and the picture editing features are all features of Sense. Install a custom rom and you lose all of that.
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I'm familair with them and have used some of them, I just didn't know if they were linked to the actual SENSE app, or if it was built into it's own camera apk.
If they are linked, then I can live without them, but it would be nice to keep if I could. I'll just have to check for msyefl.
I'm happy so far but I may have a concern with the camera while using flash. On most pics I take with the flash, there is haze or a halo effect on the photo. It looks like a fog that is thinner at the center and thickens out near the edge. It seems to be worse when the subject is at close range, and it seems to vary in amount from pic to pic. Photos without the flash are fine.
I see nothing on the lens and there isn't anything around the lens/ led flash area. I'm going to stop into T-Mobile and check the demo unit for the same effect.
Otherwise happy. I really want to root for Titanium Backup though.
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Well the card I used was never used in a previous phone, was in a camera, doubt if that would be any issue at all, should not be one - post an update when you get the replacement
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Wow! My second Amaze!!! Gotta return it again! First one was the SD card issue, the second one fixed it! Second one... the soft buttons has two spots where the screen would shine through? Like they didn't coat the screen right... So annoying..
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the soft buttons has two spots where the screen would shine through? Like they didn't coat the screen right... So annoying..
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man i have this same problem,
i love the phone but im waiting out for about another week before returning it that way if i get a few scratches, i'll just get a replacement anyways
but this issue is deff. making me aggravated >:O
Finally activated my new simm (lazy, had been using mt4g old simm) and noticed faster speeds.
Consistent 10mb - 14+mb download & 1.5mb - 2.5+mb upload .......sweet
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These T-Mo apps how much space do they really take up? Is it worth all the trouble with "unlocking bootloader" and rooting the phone for a noob like me?
I´m coming from a Desire wich has minimal internal memory to this Amaze with 16Gb (I know i´s not that much irl).
It´s just that I am so annoyed with all these apps I cant even use.
yes this phone is amazing, the onlly thing i dont like about sense is that my wallpapers dont move like all my other phones did, so i cant use all my old wallpapers. Other than that this phone is exactly what i expected it to be
Arcadia310 said:
Just go into the camera app and see for yourself. All the different modes and the picture editing features are all features of Sense. Install a custom rom and you lose all of that.
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Umm... May want to rephrase that... I use a custom rom that still uses sense as well and has all the camera features so... Custom rom does not equal loss of camera features or sense for that matter... Also I am pretty sure one could have a stripped sense rom and still maintain camera functionality...
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I too live it. Probably my favorite. Had g1, mt4g, thunderbolt on Verizon, LG g2x and this. It is really nice and no problems that I notice.
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I really loved my sensation and the amaze is what my sensation never was a phone without flaws. People complain bout the lights bleeding into the screen but I don't have that issue I like my screen looks great. The device feels awesome in my hand and the heft is perfect. The camera is best I ever had front and back. Most people will complain about sense but I like it until ics I dislike stock android its missing some Polish and ease with its features like dialer, contacts, camera, music player etc... Hate that I'm giving up my amaze and selling it hoping the galaxy s 2 is ok but hoping to pick up an amaze later again this really is a great device wish more devs picked it up to see its value and HTC was more friendly to our devs. Thank god for x!
Edit: what I absolutely hate about my amaze!! The fact that it looks and feels so good bare that I never want to use my case but have to so that it can stay looking so good.
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This phone is running great for me.
Speaker is FINE !! (maybe just a tad lower, but it's clear and loud enough).
Signal seems the same as EVO 4G (maybe, just maybe a tad lower, but good enough).
Camera (2D) quality is also fine. I don't know what happened comparing in the store with 4G but camera is good (except the darn thing does hang). And I wish it had panorama like my 4G with MikG ROM had. But I expect that will come and there are 3rd party apps for that.
3D Screen (in 3D) is pretty impressive. As well as the 3D camera. Don't know how much I'll use it but it is quite impressive.
Fast, tons of memory.
Everything I care about, so far works (except camera hang).
Battery looks promising, need more time on that.
I did like the wider screen on 4G. But it always felt wide in the hand.
All my apps automatically restored, including WIFI settings !!
Power/Volume buttons don't feel mushy to me. Not quite as crisp, but fine.
It has a real nice feel to it. I did like the shiny edge on 4G though. But I really like the grippy back on 3D.
I like how speaker and camera are not embedded in the screen.
So many little things that break when folks try to lift things from different ROMs that this all has working.
It fits perfectly in my Car ProClip for 4G.
Camera button is nice.
Only feature I really really want from root is WIFI Tether (not adhoc either). Meanwhile PDANet USB tether will cover the times I need tether.
4G was really weak with 2.2 Stock and having what is stock today on new phones it's understandable to want root. But it's so hard to get everything working. Maybe I'll want new features in 6 months that requires root. We'll see.
This was essentially a free upgrade (maybe even some profit). By Selling 4G.
If you're on the fence I don't think you'll be disappointed coming from a 4G (even rooted 4G).
With properly written applications, the higher dot pitch is not a problem. I had to bump browser up in font size. Everything else so far looks the same except Icons are a bit smaller and status bar.
It is refreshing to see there are people who enjoy it instead of ones who complain. A lot of users are very happy ( I know 6 with it, and they are very happy with it) with it and we simply don't post here becuase we really don't have to.
I love it too. I haven't had any of he issues people complain about. Well...that's a lie I guess. I had the green tint on low-light pictures with the flash, but then I learned to turn off auto-lighting and set it for the correct setting of the room and that problem went away.
Is simply best phone out there so.far
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I love mine. Not one issue yet. The phone is devistating. Just waiting for a recovery and a Mik ROM.
3evoD
royshero said:
I love mine. Not one issue yet. The phone is devistating. Just waiting for a recovery and a Mik ROM.
3evoD
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I wish I could say the same. I only had ONE issue with my first one. Cracked screen that came with the phone. Weird. Got my new one and I love it.
Yea, I love my 3vo. Only issue I've had is the green tint thing on pics but I'm hoping that'll get fixed with a software update. If not, I'll exchange it for a new one.
Love my 3D! Even the iPhone fans have trouble keeping their eyes off it!
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If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
I'm also loving the phone.
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the predominant vibe on XDA for the few months or so has been negative, so, people need to just take what they read here with a grain of sand..
This phone is great; I loved my 4G, and, when we get root with the 3D, it will definitely be the #1 phone out there now...
I had to return my first one, due to some goofy software issues, but, the replacement is fantastic, and, as more accessories come out for it, it will be an even better experience.
As said often on this forum,
"Haters gonna hate"!
Verizon ****ed me over, jumped to Sprint. Went from a Thunderbolt to an Evo 3D, and I love this thing way more than my Thunderbolt. I do miss the kickstand, and I'm sad to not see extended battery cases with one, but otherwise I'm loving every second of use!
Sprint has been treating me well too.
The main thing I had with other phones I ever had was they fell really bad in my expectations for them. This phone has surpassed my high ones..people see it and they say...its a phone also...WOW...
No problems here with my 3VO
Bringing up issues on a Forum your having with (whatever) doesn't mean your being 'negative'. The majority of threads have been solution oriented...ONCE you pic out all the posts by those who have to come in and say your being negative!
I agree btw, it is a sweet device.
Love mine too, no green flash, no dead pixels, no complaints here
I love mine too, I have little light bleed on the bottom, bunch of my friends have the same thing, all 4 of them. so I didn't wanna waste my time on an exchange because I was afraid of getting one with other probelms. it is only visible at night in dark sorroundings, during the day I cant see it though. My friend told me to get a life and stop being picky lol when I mentioned the light bleed. He told me nothing is perfect in life, haha. I honestly dont even notice it in a bad way anymore, if the lights on the bottom werent so damn bright it wouldnt be there. At the end I love everything about the phone.
Oc'd 1.8ghz with adw ex is smoothest experience ever.
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Oc'd 1.8ghz with adw ex is smoothest experience ever.
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Vouch this
And perfect phone no hulk pics. Tilted screen. Or any of the other complaints
And as for "radio quality". I get 2.1mbs download all day pretty much.. and never loose signal
3D > iClone
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the predominant vibe on XDA for the few months or so has been negative, so, people need to just take what they read here with a grain of sand..
This phone is great; I loved my 4G, and, when we get root with the 3D, it will definitely be the #1 phone out there now...
I had to return my first one, due to some goofy software issues, but, the replacement is fantastic, and, as more accessories come out for it, it will be an even better experience.
As said often on this forum,
"Haters gonna hate"!
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couldnt have said it better myself.......
And I don't think it's related to the SoC. I think it might be more related to Sense, or HTC in general. The phone is fast, but there's some situations where it's very slow. Could be ICS too, I'm not sure. I notice that when switching between apps, or if I go a while without cleaning out open apps, I get a lot of lag. This is a concern because it never happened with my E4GT (I never bothered closing apps on that phone unless they were using GPS or something, and I HAD to).
Also (and here's one I'm sure everyone can try) when I'm looking at a photo in the gallery, and I click the "share" button, it takes 3-4 full seconds before the menu finally pops up. Is this normal? Again, never happened on my old phone. I might just be grasping for straws here, but it's the little things that bug me.
I'm running ViperROM 1.2.1 (I believe), and I've done the dual-core enhancement. I'm also running Nova PRIME.
Anyone else notice these kinds of annoying things?
I think it is sense/htc. Although the current cm9 is still what I'd consider in alpha stage, look at the rom zip, ~200MB vs close to 600MB for the other roms floating around. Add maybe 50-80MB to the cm9 for gapps, and you're still less than half of stock. All that bloatware has to run somehow. I think as time goes on, it'll be determined exactly what can safely be stripped away from sense to reduce bloat. Officially, the phone is hardly a week old, unofficial a bit over 2 weeks. Give it a month or two.
True. Good to know I'm not the only one
I'm actually pleasantly surprised at how popular this phone is with the dev community. I mean, root was available before it was in the hands of the masses, lol.
Can't wait for CM9! Ran CM7 on my OG EVo and LOVED IT! I just hope getting LTE to work on CM9 isn't as painful as getting Wimax to work on CM7
Given how much I used wimax with the old evo, if CM should comeout without functioning LTE, i'll still switch. By that time, LTE should be rolled out in chicago in masses, and hopefully 3g performance will be what it should be (1-1.5mbps down /1mbps up). For what I do, that's more than enough bw.
I already use different third party apps for practically every fundamental function of the phone. Converting from sense to something else will be real easy this time. With the old evo much time was spent trying different apps out to figure out what works best or gives a good user experience.
It would be nice if sense camera functionality was ported over in full. One thing htc did get right with the phone was the camera and the app.
Try a different launcher like Nova Launcher and see if it's still slow.... Maybe try a different rom.
I too have noticed slowdowns when using the phone after some time....
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Try a different launcher like Nova Launcher and see if it's still slow.... Maybe try a different rom.
I too have noticed slowdowns when using the phone after some time....
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OP says he's using Nova Prime.
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It would be nice if sense camera functionality was ported over in full. One thing htc did get right with the phone was the camera and the app.
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Ehhh, it's hit or miss for me. I've taken some very nice shots, but honestly the majority of my low-light shots have looked like absolute crap. The app's native AUTO settings are pretty bad for low-light shooting. Even the presets aren't that good. I have to manually adjust the expose and contrast to get anything remotely good. Daylight shots, however, are absolutely brilliant.
I have the paid version of CameraZOOM FX, but I don't think it plays very well with this camera. The exposure and color levels look good in low-light shots, but the pictures come out very out-of-focus for me. Not sure what that's related to.
But yeah to the other member who mentioned it, I'm using Nova Prime and it made my experience a whole lot better over the Sense launcher. Still not where I want it to be, though
Either way, very happy with the device. Screen is beautiful and the device itself is sexy as hell.
Don't complain if you're using a rom. Roms are not perfect. Not the phone fault. This should be put in that rom's thread
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Don't complain if you're using a rom. Roms are not perfect. Not the phone fault. This should be put in that rom's thread
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No, it shouldn't.
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OP says he's using Nova Prime.
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Hmm that really sucks... I get lag too and it's kinda annoying.... Looks like we'll have to wait for the devs to fix this problem or an update from HTC.
Memory management is much too aggressive with HTC's factory settings. Apps get bumped out of memory too easily. I had the same issue. I suggest you try this -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681183
My device (I'm loathe to call it a phone, it's SO much MORE... ) runs much better with Mr. V's mod - and I still get great battery life.
EDIT: Don't forget to nandroid first!
HTH,
-Jerry
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Memory management is much too aggressive with HTC's factory settings. Apps get bumped out of memory too easily. I had the same issue.
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I have to say I don't think it's just the memory management problem. In fact, I wish there were less "management" and more "memory". In today's world of ICS, large screens, memory-hogging GPUs, and background apps, most Android phones don't have enough memory to run all the apps we would like to have. Especially for power users.
Since the OP was using ViperROM, he/she already has the memory optimizations you pointed suggested. As do I, although, I placed them there manually on Stock. Memory management will only get you so far. I still get quite a bit of performance hits when switching apps. Worse than that though, I get apps that have been killed in the BG and thus didn't fully save state so when I go back to them, I've lost the work I've done. Truly annoying.
HTC (and others) need to get a better imagination in terms of future-proofing (or even now-proofing) their products. I bought the LTEvo based on timing (contract renewal), reviews and loyalty for HTC (been on it since the G1). I can only assume that the reviewers didn't put on many apps when they reviewed the product.
Every time I've upgraded, I've been unhappy with the amount of space available - particularly RAM since the SDcard is upgrade-able. 1GB was "ok" in the GB- era. I'm looking forward to my next upgrade when HTC will (finally) get it right ... I hope.
@ailima -
You're right. I must have been running on fumes when I read the OP.
I tried ViperROM, but went back to stock. I noticed lag after awhile.
On my OG EVO, if I wasn't running CM7.x, I'd either have MikG or Tommy Tomatoes Classic. Both odexed ROMs. IIRC, Aamikam has said that odexed performs better, and I believe him. Also, my experience bears this out. Stock with the dual-core ultimate mod is running way better for me than stock without.
I'm loving this bad boy so far. The size is absolutely perfect and fits in my hand like a glove.
Physical/ Build Quality
It actually looks and feels more like the OG Inc then the Inc2. Slightly narrower then the Inc2 but a tad longer and has the same red highlighted speaker above the screen as the OG Inc. It also feels lighter then the Inc2 and, it feels more solid than any HTC to date. The back battery cover doesn't make that annoying squeak and fits tightly . :good:
Camera
Although this doesn't have the same imaging software as the ONE series, it takes pictures amazingly fast. Click, click, click -one right after another.
Beats Audio
Gimmick or not, Music sounds noticeably better on this device than on the Inc2. I'm playing the same FLAC HD files off the same SD card.
Cons
Looks like they did away with the FriendStream widget ?! There's a Twitter HTC widget but no HTC widget for Facebook. Only the totally lame FaceBook widget that comes with the FaceBook app. I like having the Twitter and Facebook feeds combined in the FriendStream widget. Bummer . . .
Price
I paid $106.99 (including tax) for the device as a "Buddy Upgrade" on my company's business account. They applied the $50 rebate directly to the purchase.
I haven't gotten one yet but I'm pissed that, at least according to the website, the phone isn't global ready. WTF?? The DINC 2 was global ready right? And this chip supposedly has GSM capabilities built in. So why not make it global ready from day one?
Verizon is getting on my last nerve...first they pass on the One series and put out this phone with inferior specs, then they jerk everyone around waiting for the release so they can screw us on the plan, then they don't make it global ready when the hardware clearly supports it. I don't get it. I'm going the europe next month and was looking forward to using the phone over there.
Verzion already has said they will send out a software update to make it globally complient in very near future. It has the hardware to support it inside of it.
Yeah, I didn't buy one either for the above reason. They told me in the store today it wasn't gsm capable at the moment.
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Verzion already has said they will send out a software update to make it globally complient in very near future. It has the hardware to support it inside of it.
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LOL...with Verizon the very near future could be a year from now.
And by the way, is it just a coincidence that they send out this OTA to the original DINC that is throwing everyone's phone into a constant reboot loop a week before the new DINC 4G comes out? The timing is a little suspicious. I get the stupid notification like every half hour, hoping the thing will eventually just go away.
Sorry slacka...didn't mean to hijack your thread. I'm done ranting now....
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Sorry slacka...didn't mean to hijack your thread. I'm done ranting now....
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No worries. :laugh: I actually have a gripe already -looks like they did away with the FriendStream widget ?! There's a Twitter HTC widget but nothing for FB but the totally lame FaceBook widget that comes with the FaceBook app. I like having the Twitter and Facebook feeds combined in the FriendStream widget. Call me lame . . .
I picked up one this morning to replace my galaxy nexus. (By the way, does anyone want a nexus)
So far I love it. I wanted a 4g phone that wasn't as big as a surf board. I don't need a huge screen as I will never watch TV or anything on it so this is perfect.
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No worries. :laugh: I actually have a gripe already -looks like they did away with the FriendStream widget ?! There's a Twitter HTC widget but nothing for FB but the totally lame FaceBook widget that comes with the FaceBook app. I like having the Twitter and Facebook feeds combined in the FriendStream widget. Call me lame . . .
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im sure we can fix that easily given that friendstream does exist for sense4 on the other phones
Honestly if I didnt miss school 2 weeks ago, I would leave work and go straight to picking this phone up. I wonder should I do that.... hmmm....
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...(By the way, does anyone want a nexus)...
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Fo free? :cyclops:
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No worries. :laugh: I actually have a gripe already -looks like they did away with the FriendStream widget ?! There's a Twitter HTC widget but nothing for FB but the totally lame FaceBook widget that comes with the FaceBook app. I like having the Twitter and Facebook feeds combined in the FriendStream widget. Call me lame . . .
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Are we sure it isn't in there? That it is a deal breaker for me, FriendStream is the best feature of Sense for me.
Y2J
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Are we sure it isn't in there? That it is a deal breaker for me, FriendStream is the best feature of Sense for me.
Y2J
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even if its not, would be a very easy (id think) fix for custom stock-ish roms
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LOL...with Verizon the very near future could be a year from now.
And by the way, is it just a coincidence that they send out this OTA to the original DINC that is throwing everyone's phone into a constant reboot loop a week before the new DINC 4G comes out? The timing is a little suspicious. I get the stupid notification like every half hour, hoping the thing will eventually just go away.
Sorry slacka...didn't mean to hijack your thread. I'm done ranting now....
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Did anyone try the back door method the rezound has? This is one of the features I was wanting as well. Here is how the Rezound works.
(*#*#4636#*#* in dialer, then phone information) there is a option for "Global Mode" and ones for "WCDMA Only" and "GSM Only"
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Did anyone try the back door method the rezound has? This is one of the features I was wanting as well. Here is how the Rezound works.
(*#*#4636#*#* in dialer, then phone information) there is a option for "Global Mode" and ones for "WCDMA Only" and "GSM Only"
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So that's all it takes to turn on global mode? Do you have to be rooted?
I think you have to pre-pay for data from verizon before you go right? Like $25/100 mb. So they wouldn't care that you went in and turned on global mode yourself?
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Fo free? :cyclops:
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Based on your post logic used in the other thread this kind of discussion should be posted in a different thread based on this ones title...
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Was a longtime user of several phones, including Dinc2, and Rezound.
Picked up the 4g lte today, and I gotta say from the limited time I have with it, I am enjoying it. The biggest plus so far is the nice sharp screen. In fact, I like it more than the rezound's 720 p screen because this one is NOT scaled, so everything looks nice and crisp, and the fonts aren't too big.
Sense 4 on this phone seems pretty snappy and smooth, minimal if any lag on certain scrolls, but they are rare. Haven't made phone calls yet. 4g (here in LA county) is variable in terms of speed... from 300 KB/sec to 1.1 MB/sec. I think that is maybe more related to network congestion.
Form factor of the phone is basically the same as the Dinc2, which is a good thing, but I find this one to be easier to hold in my hands, with softer edges. Also, buttons are easier to press than the Dinc2, which is a plus. Battery door easy to open, and doesn't have flex/creaking. Another nice feature is that the SIM tray and SD card tray are both on the side of the phone, so you don't have to remove the battery to access anything, only the back cover.
All in all, I am pleased so far. Hope to continue the enjoyment, and hopefully will see some nice interest in this phone. Only question remaining is whether the bootloader will be unlocked (either by HTCdev, or otherwise). Honestly, though, Sense 4 on this phone is pretty snappy and quick, so I can overlook this even if we don't get AOSP. But nothing wrong with more options, of course, thanks to any and all devs who know how to cook roms, because I sure don't know how to.
Thanks for reading!
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Fo free? :cyclops:
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no sir
I understand that you initial posters have your shiny, new phone that you paid for, so please don't flame me for offering what the OP suggested, ie: initial thoughts.
I used the phone briefly in the Verizon store today. I have lots of experience with Sense, having used and rooted both a Droid Incredible and an HTC Rezound. That said, I should state that my bias leans toward Senseless and ASOP roms.
Compared to my Rezound running ConRom, I found the Incredible 4G on Sense 4 to be laggy when it came to screen transitions, ie: opening/closing the market, updating apps, transitioning between Sense home screens, etc. I'm not one of those "The Rezound is the best Android phone out" guys either. I was honestly hoping that this phone would be a significant upgrade over the Rezound. If I still had the ability to keep unlimited data and burn my existing upgrade, my choice would still be either the Rezound or the Galaxy Nexus.
I am envious of the Incredible 4G due to it's form-factor. It's feels great in the hand, light but not too light, and has the same nice rubberized-texture that the Inc 2 and Rezound have.
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I understand that you initial posters have your shiny, new phone that you paid for, so please don't flame me for offering what the OP suggested, ie: initial thoughts.
I used the phone briefly in the Verizon store today. I have lots of experience with Sense, having used and rooted both a Droid Incredible and an HTC Rezound. That said, I should state that my bias leans toward Senseless and ASOP roms.
Compared to my Rezound running ConRom, I found the Incredible 4G on Sense 4 to be laggy when it came to screen transitions, ie: opening/closing the market, updating apps, transitioning between Sense home screens, etc. I'm not one of those "The Rezound is the best Android phone out" guys either. I was honestly hoping that this phone would be a significant upgrade over the Rezound. If I still had the ability to keep unlimited data and burn my existing upgrade, my choice would still be either the Rezound or the Galaxy Nexus.
I am envious of the Incredible 4G due to it's form-factor. It's feels great in the hand, light but not too light, and has the same nice rubberized-texture that the Inc 2 and Rezound have.
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I wasn't running ComRom on my Rezound but so far my experience has been the exact opposite. The Incdreble 4G has had no lag like the Rezound does. Plus, Sense 4 runs circles around the Rezounds version of Sense.
Besides, It's hardly a fair comparison to pit a custom ROM against stock anything.
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So that's all it takes to turn on global mode? Do you have to be rooted?
I think you have to pre-pay for data from verizon before you go right? Like $25/100 mb. So they wouldn't care that you went in and turned on global mode yourself?
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Global mode is something different. What I am talking about is buying a prepaid sim overseas or using it with t-mobile/att&t. The command doesn't work because Verizon disabled it but if you download the Thunderbolt LTE on/off app in the play store you can change it to GSM only. The options are there so the phone is capable like everyone said. I just got back from receiving the phone and the app works in switching to 3G. The sim for this phone is now a micro-sim so for someone to test they would need to trim a regular sim and put it in. This settings works for voice only. To send SMS and MMS, we need a dev to fix the ROM. That's how they did it with the Rezound. Or we wait for Verizon to enable all the functionality.
So far I am liking the phone. It's more like the original incredible than the incredible 2.
My wifes Fascinate is dying, I was given a Thunderbolt and rooted it. She just can't get use to the phone's interface. Is there a ROM that makes it look like Samsung's interface?
I also need everything to work, camera, wifi, 4G.... Am I asking to much?
vetteguy112233 said:
My wifes Fascinate is dying, I was given a Thunderbolt and rooted it. She just can't get use to the phone's interface. Is there a ROM that makes it look like Samsung's interface?
I also need everything to work, camera, wifi, 4G.... Am I asking to much?
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As in it having touchwiz? What exactly is she looking for to carry over from what she used on her samsung? Try holo launcher and see if she likes that better. Its on the play store
Put her on liquid ics and then get the touchwiz launcher. Requires android 4.0+
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Put her on liquid ics and then get the touchwiz launcher. Requires android 4.0+
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In another thread he said wife needs camera and camcorder to work so liquid is out. Would the touchwiz work on the nusense ics rom?
Dark Jedi said:
In another thread he said wife needs camera and camcorder to work so liquid is out. Would the touchwiz work on the nusense ics rom?
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Yes although its a stock kernel so no over clocking and probably slower. Unless there is an aosp ics rom fully working
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On the main text section that shows all texts from different people, if you slide your finger across their name from left to right it calls them, if you go right to left it txt's them. She also complained about how many steps there are to make a phone call (that might just be learning this new phone).
I keep hearing about Liquid and it sounds perfect except the video camera doesn't work. She takes a lot of videos of the kids, so it's not an option.
theres a widget in sense called people fav. where you can add their contact to it and tapping the pic it will give you an option of text or call.
I'll teach her how to use the phone properly and install widgets if I can't get a rom that emulates a samsung.
I guess I have nothing to lose. She doesn't really like the current factory setup, so I guess I'll just flash one of the most common ones mentioned and see if she likes it, since nobody makes exactly what I'm looking for.
Thanks for the suggestions!
I really don't want to sound like a jerk when i say this but, if she wanted the phone to act like a Samsung then why did she get it? Why not just get a Samsung? It's going to be a lot of work for something that may have cost a little more.
The closest thing I can think of is a GB rom with sense removed and using GO Launcher EX with the GO Launcher TouchWiz theme. Both are in the play store. For me Go Launcher has always been a little laggy but if she's used to Touch Wiz then she's used to it..
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I really don't want to sound like a jerk when i say this but, if she wanted the phone to act like a Samsung then why did she get it? Why not just get a Samsung? It's going to be a lot of work for something that may have cost a little more.
The closest thing I can think of is a GB rom with sense removed and using GO Launcher EX with the GO Launcher TouchWiz theme. Both are in the play store. For me Go Launcher has always been a little laggy but if she's used to Touch Wiz then she's used to it..
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I understand your question, your not a jerk. I got the phone for FREE and she hadn't ever used any other type of Android phone (other than her Samsung Fascinate), so she wasn't aware they were different.
Thanks for the help.
vetteguy112233 said:
I understand your question, your not a jerk. I got the phone for FREE and she hadn't ever used any other type of Android phone (other than her Samsung Fascinate), so she wasn't aware they were different.
Thanks for the help.
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Gotcha, I understand completely. My family were sold the HTC Thunderbolt because they were told it was a good phone. I took it because it was free with our contract when the district manager set us up. It isn't a horrible phone but I have definitely owned better.
i love the phone itself but sort of regret getting it. I guess its my own fault for not looking up more into htc phones but coming from a GN where all you need is unlock and root when i saw we had that i got it, didnt realize with htc you need soff too. Then i foudn out no htc phones with no sdcard have soff yet. Im not a fan of sense and prefer the stock android experience or aokp only. anyone else feel like this? i love the phone, but dont like the soff situation with htc, and cant think of a better phone to switch to either cus i dont want the s3. and unfortunately nexus 4 isnt for verizon
I can relate to what you are saying.
For me, I set my expectation of this phone to be a great consumer phone, not a developer phone. So I decided not to root it or installing custom rom on it. Just use Android as a daily phone this time.
I have spent way too much time and energy on GNex switching between rom , which is something I really regret after a while. Not just full wipe everytime, but there is simply no single best rom can meet all asks. many of them are great initially, then slowly become slow and buggy, which I really can't figure out why, including CM10.
So that's why I look beyond such issues for HTC DNA, but evaluate it from a consumer point of view, "apple-type" user, if you will.
And I keep my galaxy nexus to play with, "in my lab".
If your expectation was to make this to be a full developer unit... it may not be the right phone, and verizon is not the right carrier in this case.
Many says playing around with all roms are "fun", but after long time of "playing around the roms" with more than 5 state-of-the-art smart phones in past 2 years, I will control myself on such "fun".
just some thoughts.
I feel the same
I feel the exact same way. No doubt about it though, the phone is great and the screen is amazing! I am just not a fan on Sense. I love me some AOSP. The phone also feels a little too big for my likes.
I am contemplating returning the DNA and getting the Developer Edition of the Razr HD. But if I did that, I might end up in the same boat as I do NOT have the skills needed to complile AOSP from source and get it running on the Razr HD.
Matt
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I agree. I knre it wuldnt be much of a developer device. My main hope was jus for it to get aokp fully working. But not as much dev as the nexus with all their highly featured kernels, tbh i wish my nexus didnt break cus id still be on it. Im not a fan of "consumer" devices just because i like full access to my electronics. But its my own fwult for not researchin roms with htc lol. I dnt switch off verizon til december
Pudge
Can that be swapped out with the 14day return period?
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Dri94 said:
Jiwengabg
I agree. I knre it wuldnt be much of a developer device. My main hope was jus for it to get aokp fully working. But not as much dev as the nexus with all their highly featured kernels, tbh i wish my nexus didnt break cus id still be on it. Im not a fan of "consumer" devices just because i like full access to my electronics. But its my own fwult for not researchin roms with htc lol. I dnt switch off verizon til december
Pudge
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So return it...done...no regrets. The phone has been out 6 days...u guys have to be kidding me...there will be plenty of ROMs to choose from in no time.
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So return it...done...no regrets. The phone has been out 6 days...u guys have to be kidding me...there will be plenty of ROMs to choose from in no time.
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Side effect of these guys being from the "Now" generation.
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Side effect of these guys being from the "Now" generation.
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No kidding. But also - just because we don't currently have S-Off, and correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no reason we won't have custom ROMs to play with. We can still write to the System partition in Recovery, which means you can flash a custom ROM in recovery.
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Jiwengabg
Pudge
Can that be swapped out with the 14day return period?
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Not that I know of. If I decided to swap phones, I would have to return DNA to Verizon and then buy the Razr HD from Moto. Should not be difficult though.
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SolusCado said:
No kidding. But also - just because we don't currently have S-Off, and correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no reason we won't have custom ROMs to play with. We can still write to the System partition in Recovery, which means you can flash a custom ROM in recovery.
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You are correct. ROMs and kernels will still able to be flashed with the phone being unlocked and s-on. Just can not make changes to /system while outside of recovery.
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No regrets.
For those of you that don't like sense, install Nova launcher... problem solved.
No regrets. We'll get ROMs soon enough, the phone has only been out a week. Massively impressed with the battery life and screen, and my only gripe is sense.
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Not that I know of. If I decided to swap phones, I would have to return DNA to Verizon and then buy the Razr HD from Moto. Should not be difficult though.
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You are correct. ROMs and kernels will still able to be flashed with the phone being unlocked and s-on. Just can not make changes to /system while outside of recovery.
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On the ROM flashing front - I'm trying to think of a scenario where you would make changes to /system while outside of recovery. Every time I flashed a ROM on my GNex I would reboot into CWM anyway - I'm assuming the only things that actually made changes to /system while not in recovery would be things like kernel controls?
It kills me that people buy an HTC phone and complain about Sense. It isn't like they "snuck" Sense on this phone behind your back.
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No regrets.
For those of you that don't like sense, install Nova launcher... problem solved.
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lol
This was the choice for most people that were tired of their GNex's, since Verizon won't work with the N4. Most of those people are used to stock AOSP, so its understandable. I came from the Inc, to Inc2, to GNex, and it was still a bit of a shock for me to go back to Sense.
I think most people also assumed that the development on this phone would be similar to what it was like on the GNex, which is not the case. Hopefully we get some stock android stuff going pretty soon so we can all rest easy
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It kills me that people buy an HTC phone and complain about Sense. It isn't like they "snuck" Sense on this phone behind your back.
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No kidding! Although I have to say that while I always liked Sense (way back from the Windows Mobile days), I stopped using it once phone screen sizes got bigger because Sense just made everything too big... and with some DPI tweaks I have actually found Sense to be quite usable on the DNA... I'm still trying to settle on my favorite launcher for this phone, but at least this time around Sense is in the running.
If I could get a zip that modifies it to a 5/4 or 5/5 layout it probably wouldn't even be a competition. For the record, other contenders are Chameleon Launcher, Apex, and SPB Shell 3D (in either Smartphone or Tablet mode)... Still can't make a decision. :silly:
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It kills me that people buy an HTC phone and complain about Sense. It isn't like they "snuck" Sense on this phone behind your back.
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i love this too. I got this phone because of sense and the screen! you all know it has sense I just love to hear people complain and it somehow puts up better numbers than the nexus 4 with aosp right out of the box. This phone hasnt even got roms yet just got unlocked! wait until s-off and then people will have their flavor of aosp or sense! And also remember how long it took for galaxy s3 to get unlocked? it could take awhile so we will see how many true HTC followers there is here or just people jumping ship for the next great quad core 1080p phone. should be interesting. The positives outweigh the negatives for me! Whenever i use phone i dont regret it for a second! Sense is one of the most extensive and nicest setups in android by far to me!
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No kidding! Although I have to say that while I always liked Sense (way back from the Windows Mobile days), I stopped using it once phone screen sizes got bigger because Sense just made everything too big... and with some DPI tweaks I have actually found Sense to be quite usable on the DNA... I'm still trying to settle on my favorite launcher for this phone, but at least this time around Sense is in the running.
If I could get a zip that modifies it to a 5/4 or 5/5 layout it probably wouldn't even be a competition. For the record, other contenders are Chameleon Launcher, Apex, and SPB Shell 3D (in either Smartphone or Tablet mode)... Still can't make a decision. :silly:
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What did you end up setting the lcd density to?
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What did you end up setting the lcd density to?
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Well, I like a lot of screen real estate, and sharp, small-ish text (I bought a 13" Macbook Pro just for that 2560x1600 resolution - and I'm using Windows 7 on it), but I have my DPI set to 370. Android Pro Widgets replace any of the Sense widgets where possible (SMS, Agenda) because they can render a smaller font, but I still use the native 4x1 Clock/Weather widget, and of course the Mail widget - and I have all my quick launch items set to use folders - System, Social, Travel, and Multimedia.
s-off is coming
s-off is coming dsb said that is was close. I was a strong "htc" until the galaxy s3 came out back in July. After being frustrated with Samsungs weak radios i came back home to HTC. I was on the fence between this and the note 2 but after playing with the phone on launch day I bought it. And now the note 2 comes out in 2 days and i could care less.
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This was the choice for most people that were tired of their GNex's, since Verizon won't work with the N4. Most of those people are used to stock AOSP, so its understandable. I came from the Inc, to Inc2, to GNex, and it was still a bit of a shock for me to go back to Sense.
I think most people also assumed that the development on this phone would be similar to what it was like on the GNex, which is not the case. Hopefully we get some stock android stuff going pretty soon so we can all rest easy
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I went from Sense to AOSP, back to Sense. Its definitely some culture shock, but I wouldn't have done it if I disliked Sense.
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s-off is coming dsb said that is was close. I was a strong "htc" until the galaxy s3 came out back in July. After being frustrated with Samsungs weak radios i came back home to HTC. I was on the fence between this and the note 2 but after playing with the phone on launch day I bought it. And now the note 2 comes out in 2 days and i could care less.
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I wouldn't expect s-off anytime soon, regardless of what dsb says.
Now if jcase says it, I will believe it (assuming he isn't doing his regular rickrolls).