Hi,
I've got an idea to "fix" battery drain in WP7, as well as with Android.
I can't really assure you how much it's working as I do this each time I install WP7 since the first version of MAGLDR is out.
I started doing this because I had battery problems with magldr.
Here is the trick : In fact, when you install MAGLDR, Windows Phone 7 / Android, or even update WP7, the battery is not charging but draining (that kind of procedure eats a lot of power). But even if the installation ends with a 40% charge, the OS will be sure, at first start that it's almost 100% charged.
I think it's a reason why the battery goes empty faster than with Windows Mobile. It was default OS, with default configuration etc. so 100% was 100%.
So I think we must, at least once, charge the battery outside of the phone, with a dedicated charger. In that way, when WP7 will start, it will see the fully charged battery (100%, for real).
I think the OS will know, when the battery will be discharged, the real capacity from 100 to 0.
I hope it will help, and that I'm not wrong as I don't experience any real battery drain if I do this + camera trick since first version of WP7, and with any Android rom (except MIUI).
Hi
My solution is close to yours.
After each flash I let drop my battery until the phone died and you can't restart it under WP7
next I start to charge it under MARGL 5 min then i start WP7 and let it charge.
Now i'm sure that the phone have a good battery calibration.
My HD2, 2 years old, and with camera trick can stay 48 hours in 3G but only 24 hours in 2G??? WTF?
You're not completely right here, OS would not think that change at first boot is 100% charge, you can easily check that by booting first time on half empty battery and indicator will show about 50%.
But yes, battery stats might affect battery drain, so there is a button in MAGLDR something like "Clear battery stats", reboot to MAGLDR, charge to 100%, click that button, boot back to your OS.
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What is we charged up to 100% and did a hard reset would that make the probum go away?
vartp said:
You're not completely right here, OS would not think that change at first boot is 100% charge, you can easily check that by booting first time on half empty battery and indicator will show about 50%.
But yes, battery stats might affect battery drain, so there is a button in MAGLDR something like "Clear battery stats", reboot to MAGLDR, charge to 100%, click that button, boot back to your OS.
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Oh ok. Weird, each time I flash WP7 or Android, it tells me that I've got something between a 100% and a 90% charge, which isn't possible, after having installed MAGLDR, then flashed the new OS and waited for the first boot (really long with Android).
Nonethless, I flashed WP 7.5 with radio 5.66, and I'm experiencing a huge battery drain, even with camera trick & external charge.
Even Miui seems to last longer. And Android tells me that I have a 62% battery charge, and I restarted the phone on WP and it tells me that I still have a 76% battery charge.
Why don't I have the same charge estimation ?
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Oh ok. Weird, each time I flash WP7 or Android, it tells me that I've got something between a 100% and a 90% charge, which isn't possible, after having installed MAGLDR, then flashed the new OS and waited for the first boot (really long with Android).
Nonethless, I flashed WP 7.5 with radio 5.66, and I'm experiencing a huge battery drain, even with camera trick & external charge.
Even Miui seems to last longer. And Android tells me that I have a 62% battery charge, and I restarted the phone on WP and it tells me that I still have a 76% battery charge.
Why don't I have the same charge estimation ?
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well I can't answer that question but I would bet android is not the 1 that is giving wrong charge estamations in on bttfv2 and I was on v1 and never experienced fast battery drain I personally like the wp7.5 over the other os's so I'm dealing with the fast battery drain issue & random reboots as well I also think the to problems are related some how the random Reboots it never happens when on on a charger! I really think someone should go back to bttfv1 to test and figure out what went wrong when new registry edits was implemented or the new rom was cooked but anyway I read DFT is also working on a new rom I'm not sure if it will be for hd2 tho.
I'm really hoping the problem can be sorted on my last phone I got about 300hrs out of 1 charge but charging touck a wile on my hd2 charging seams to be pretty quick which might not be a good thing not sure. But last night I had it on charge almost 10 hrs after it was already 100% and when I finly got it off the chager it seamed to last a little bit longer
But on rough estimate I'm thinking it last 5 hrs witch is just horrible
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You're not completely right here, OS would not think that change at first boot is 100% charge, you can easily check that by booting first time on half empty battery and indicator will show about 50%.
But yes, battery stats might affect battery drain, so there is a button in MAGLDR something like "Clear battery stats", reboot to MAGLDR, charge to 100%, click that button, boot back to your OS.
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Where is this clear battery stats button you speak of?
kid1988 said:
Where is this clear battery stats button you speak of?
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Unfortunately, it's a mistake. I've never seen any "clear battery stats" menu in MAGLDR. But I think it exists on ClockWork.
It's a shame...
Battery life 24hrs+
All,
After reading the above posts, I started practicing the following;
* Let battery drain more than 90% or until critical battery warning appear
* Charge in full
* Power of phone. As the phone power off, power off charger ( ... this action may be insignificant)
* Boot the phone to MAGLDR
* Select "Reset" option from the menu
* Phone reboots normally
I have been doing this for the last 2 weeks I guess plus more than 8 charge cycles and now my HTC HD2 lasts 24hrs+ at any rate.
... I am not a heavy user, but still, I have OutLook, GMail, FB, Twitter running 15mins sync interval. 10+ calls + 5/6 SMSs a day in average. My good'ol battery keeps me happy.
... hope this helps someone ...
I found that it was my choice in SD cards that was causing battery drain. The camera trick got me down to a battery draing of -200. I couldn't understand why I couldn't get down to -7. WP7 "seemed" to be performing fine.
Switched to PNY 16GB class 4 and I think WP7 has accepted it. Have had a few reboots, but nothing I can pin on the card yet. My battery life is amazing in comparison to before. W/ wifi and bluetooth turned off, I get a battery drain between -4 and -7. MUCH better than before.
I can't get Battery Tool to work to check the drainage on Mango, but I found out that having 3G enabled, Push enabled (set mail check on "upon arrival") is giving me the best battery life. I'm using Mango since yesterday morning 11 am until now (it's 9.42 here) and I have 31% battery left.
Average usage (but it's enough for me) with internet, mail sync, twitter, facebook and some pictures.
for the record, I did not use the 'camera' trick at all.
When I disable push, and have email check set to 'manual' i'm starting to have drains and I have to use the camera trick to keep it low...
I know everybody has different results.. but I just wanted to share this, see if others can relate to this
Its pretty strange this battery drain issue, i struggled with it for months with the last wp7 rom i used.
With this rom i struggled with sd card issues like everyone else, in the end i'd bricked 4 cards of differing sizes and the onlycard i had left was the tiny 2gb sandisk that came with my HD2.
Since settling on that card i've had no issues other than storage space and battery drain is a thing of the past which could suggest that card compatability is at the heart of the problem.
Its my guess that constant attempts at read/write failure may be going unreported by wp7.
Currently im seeing about 36hrs at my regular usage, i can stretch it to 48hrs if im careful.
My wifi is on throughout my working day, i make on average 6-7 calls and send and receive 10 or more txts along with a steady stream of people hub updates.
I'm happy in the belief that i don't have a battery issue, i just wish i had more space.
So much for my optimistic post earlier, one reboot messed up the battery read. 40% left and 2 hours of usage .... I give up
Sent from my HD2 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
... try this for a change
KrewsialNL said:
So much for my optimistic post earlier, one reboot messed up the battery read. 40% left and 2 hours of usage .... I give up
Sent from my HD2 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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... why don't you try this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18770816&postcount=9
... sometime back I too had the same problem, but that all changed!
if you fully charge (100%)..your phone in wp7 , it will show erroneous battery drain,...you can rectify it by restarting the phone, then use the camera trick.
if you charge till 99%.it is ok, but 100%...you need to restart
pakure said:
if you fully charge (100%)..your phone in wp7 , it will show erroneous battery drain,...you can rectify it by restarting the phone, then use the camera trick.
if you charge till 99%.it is ok, but 100%...you need to restart
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I haven't had that experience. Sometimes WP7 won't allow a full charge to happen though.
Something weird just happened.I was having Bluetooth problems.It wouldnt turn on.I then Flashed the DEv wifi plus Eu fix cab.It fixed my bluetooth but with some added treats.My battery life has more than doubled.Used to go less than 8hrs of normal use but now i hv gone 17hrs and i have around 50 % left.I didnt do any camera trick.Has anybody experienced this?
Hi, could anyone give me the link to Battery tool for WP7 Mango. Thank
phong1892 said:
Hi, could anyone give me the link to Battery tool for WP7 Mango. Thank
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Here you go.
anseio said:
Here you go.
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Thank you, mate
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Ive noticed serious battery drain since I first bought this fascinate from telus. On 2.1it lasted around 11 hours. Since upgrading to 2.2 leak, id say 8 hoirs max with only approx 1 hour of uusage and the rest on standby. I turned of sync, auto brightnrss and turned brightndss as.low as possible. I make sure no apps r running in the background. Yet it still dies superfast. Is this a issue with my battery thr phone itself or firmware or kernal. Its been a week of trying to find the problem so any help would b greatly appreciated. At tgis time im running 2.2 leak with all the files it came with and no root. Thx in advNce
And hour and 12 minutes with about 30 min of internwt surfing and im down to 80 percent WTF
I update OTA last week on Verizon to Froyo 2.2. My battery was overheating and draining like crazy from my CPU usage being at a constant 99%..
I found the source of the problem. An app I use for facebook called "FLOW". The CPU usage was cut to 20% when I killed it with "Advanced Task Killer".
I resolved the issue by: Opening Flow.. going to Preferences.. Notification Settings.. Refresh Type.. Checked Periodic Polling (I was using Gmail Experimental previously)
Hope this helps...
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And hour and 12 minutes with about 30 min of internwt surfing and im down to 80 percent WTF
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sounds about average for a fascinate....
I'm on telus as well and also have terrible battery life, I've found no fix other than completely turning off Data using the toggle when holding the power button. Flashing a new rom might fix this but I've been to scared to since I bricked a phone trying it the first time. Hopefully when/if ever we get a 2.3 update it fixes this
Does anyone know where one can get an extended battery for this? I picked one up but it's for the friggin Verizon US version, and the battery cover isn't compatible, even though the battery fits(camera doesn't align, speaker's not even close).
Seriously, the American counterpart's accessories have been my biggest frustration with this phone, next to battery life...
Thought I'd give this a bump. The battery life on this Telus Fascinate 4G is truly disappointing and jumping through hoops trying to find and kill apps and services with and without utilities is wasting far too much of my time.
Anybody get a good handle on this?
Bump for same problem.
Samsung Fascinate SCH-i500 Verizon
Running unmodified and unrooted. The phone itself works perfect. No problems other than the phone seriously eats battery. Yes the battery is still good and nothing wrong with it. Plugged in it charges super slowly. And the screen itself takes more than it provides. So i did the following.
A. Changed battery to a known working one.
B. Check with car charger and a home charger. As well as official samsung charger.
C. Gave a ROM a try. Running Dirty Unicorn. Lowered cpu to 800 max and 100 min.
D. Turned display to 50% Brightness.
My only try now is to try a different kernel or something. Im also thinking that the display itself is the culprit somehow eating to much voltage.
Or the gpu. The phones operating temps are good.
I have another post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430393 relating to where i have a USB problem and need help figuring it out. There has not been any replies. So i am taking upon myself to learn more. Ive worked with 3 Droid Milestones. Hopefully these two i500s will not be to hard. I need help on this new i500 to see if its not the motherboard. The charging port is on the motherboard and if this replacement eats batteries , then the point would be mute to use it for a working USB. A conundrum.
Do i try a different kernel or somthing else. Whats my next step.. Please help.
MorbidMonk said:
Samsung Fascinate SCH-i500 Verizon
Running unmodified and unrooted. The phone itself works perfect. No problems other than the phone seriously eats battery. Yes the battery is still good and nothing wrong with it. Plugged in it charges super slowly. And the screen itself takes more than it provides. So i did the following.
A. Changed battery to a known working one.
B. Check with car charger and a home charger. As well as official samsung charger.
C. Gave a ROM a try. Running Dirty Unicorn. Lowered cpu to 800 max and 100 min.
D. Turned display to 50% Brightness.
My only try now is to try a different kernel or something. Im also thinking that the display itself is the culprit somehow eating to much voltage.
Or the gpu. The phones operating temps are good.
I have another post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430393 relating to where i have a USB problem and need help figuring it out. There has not been any replies. So i am taking upon myself to learn more. Ive worked with 3 Droid Milestones. Hopefully these two i500s will not be to hard. I need help on this new i500 to see if its not the motherboard. The charging port is on the motherboard and if this replacement eats batteries , then the point would be mute to use it for a working USB. A conundrum.
Do i try a different kernel or somthing else. Whats my next step.. Please help.
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what else do you have running?
what is the battery life overall usage? and screen usage hours?
screen is always gonna be the highest consumer of your battery
50% still pretty high unless you are out in sunlight, I keep mine between 0 and 30 % unless in sunlight
you can try running the greenify app from playstore.
what king of life are you expecting to get? anywhere between 6hrs to 24 hours total phone battery life is about average depending on how heavy user or how much in standby mode.
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hhp_211 said:
what else do you have running?
what is the battery life overall usage? and screen usage hours?
screen is always gonna be the highest consumer of your battery
50% still pretty high unless you are out in sunlight, I keep mine between 0 and 30 % unless in sunlight
you can try running the greenify app from playstore.
what king of life are you expecting to get? anywhere between 6hrs to 24 hours total phone battery life is about average depending on how heavy user or how much in standby mode.
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Its been on the charger since i posted. its only at 56%
3h 25m left
Screen 55%
Cell Standby 9%
SystemUI 7%
com.maxmpz.audioplayer 7%
Android System 7%
Its defiantly got something wrong as even though it says 56% if I unplug it, it will die in about 10 min. Even with a fully charged battery it does the same. Yes i also waited until 100% and wiped batt stats and at 3% left wiped stats. Screen is in standby
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Its been on the charger since i posted. its only at 56%
3h 25m left
Screen 55%
Cell Standby 9%
SystemUI 7%
com.maxmpz.audioplayer 7%
Android System 7%
Its defiantly got something wrong as even though it says 56% if I unplug it, it will die in about 10 min. Even with a fully charged battery it does the same. Yes i also waited until 100% and wiped batt stats and at 3% left wiped stats. Screen is in standby
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I would recommend going here
[APP][2.1+][16 Apr. - V1.13.4] BetterBatteryStats
you can get better logs and information, plus if something is not easily visible to what is causing problems you can post up a log file for them to look at.
enjoy
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hhp_211 said:
I would recommend going here
[APP][2.1+][16 Apr. - V1.13.4] BetterBatteryStats
you can get better logs and information, plus if something is not easily visible to what is causing problems you can post up a log file for them to look at.
enjoy
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I had installed the program and it didn't really show anything abnormal. Although after installing the Bat Meter, when i shutdown it killed the phone till i ODIN. So tried on the other phone as well. Same thing. Install it and compared notes. Reboot phone and had to ODIN. So maybe bad app? Well whatever. I didn't see anything unusual. Although I did notice something strange about the phone that's bad with charging. I already eliminated the battery as the problem as well as charger. But the phone that is eating battery faster than it can charge, it gets warmer at idle than the other phone. It charged just super super tiny faster than the battery eats using just idle display on lock-screen. As well this phone also with a fully charged battery will read 100% But after about 21 minutes of poweramp at 33% volume on headphones will read about 52%. Then sitting rest at idle no display from 52% down to about 14% popup around another 5 min. Then completely dead in about 3 minutes. And the phone is pretty warm. Today it was ambient temp of around 87* outside and sitting in shade and it was hot enough that it wasn't comfortable on my cheek for more than 20 seconds. Half the time the temps are normal. Now remember I'm not running overclock and actually under clocked to 800. Ive tried 3 different roms with diff kernels and same. Could it possibly be a bad heat-sink? And the extra heat is killing battery?
[Q] Battery Drain
I recently was given a Fascinate and am having similar problems. I was told the phone had a bad battery, so I ordered a replacement. Once I got the new battery in, I flashed the phone with the Carbon ROM [the phone was unlocked, but running the OTA 2.3.5 I believe]. Everything seemed to be working fine the first week or two, but now there appears to be a serious battery drain or leak after I power the phone down. I can charge the phone to 100%, power it on and use it for a period of time, then power it down with 90% or more battery life, but when I turn the phone back on, the battery will either be really low, or completely dead, where the phone won't respond at all until I plug the charger back in.
I reflashed the phone with an AOKP ROM to see if that'd make a difference, but it didn't. I tried using the first battery and the drain/leak still persists. The commonality between the two roms is the Devil kernel, so I'm going to flash a different ROM with a different kernel to see if that makes a difference. I also installed the app mentioned above to log the battery stats/usage to see if anything stands out there.
Has anyone experienced something similiar - the Fascinate consuming battery life while powered off?
Yeah the power off leak does seem to exist.
Can't remember the cause though.
I've not tried to really confirm,, but try popping the battery out then back in after you have powered off,,, then check after it has sat overnight to see if drain still exist..
Mine i just always leave on a charger overnight.
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Thanks for the reply. I'll try that. I've left the phone on today, just put it to sleep during periods of inactivity, and the battery is currently at 75% with occasional mild use after 8+ hours "on".
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After almost two weeks of use, I can confirm that if I power the phone down and do nothing else, the battery will continue to drain to 0%. If I power the phone down then remove and replace the battery, it's fine. It's an extra step, but it works. Thanks again.
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Yeah the power off leak does seem to exist.
Can't remember the cause though.
I've not tried to really confirm,, but try popping the battery out then back in after you have powered off,,, then check after it has sat overnight to see if drain still exist..
Mine i just always leave on a charger overnight.
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DISCLAIMER - I am just putting this in here so that if anyone gets any funny ideas ... Whatever you read/use in this How-TO Post is at your own RISK. The aim of this post is to help others who had the same issues as me when they were abroad ... and were stuck without a mobile Running MGLDR 1.13 and DFT stock ROM (WP7) and a USB cable but no other chargers ... If the OS doesn't boot you WON'T manage to charge via USB UNLESS you follow this HOW TO GUIDE (it's the ONLY ALTERNATIVE YOU HAVE OTHER THAN BUYING A CRADLE CHARGER) ... it WORKS 100% but I am fed up of finnicky people emailing /posting / trying to play the "experts" on the matter when they know nothing about the matter
Dear all
After going through all sorts of Registry fixes which were momentary in nature. I decided to find a viable alternative which does in actual fact work with all current WP7 builds and all MGLDR's provided with a USB Storage option.
It has been said that the WP7 Software does not charge the battery to its full potential. I also incidentally ran into the problem of charging the mobile when the battery died. Primarily because the mobile loads ... restarts ... loads ... restarts and you keep on "praying" until the OS boots to get it charged.
Alternative fixes so far which worked for me were:
- Adding android to your SD Card ..booting in android and charging it in android mode
- Charging it in Cradle Charger
- Some people even pulled out 2 wires from a USB cable (+ve and -ve) to get their phone on again (crazy and dangerious)
- MGLDR 1.12 hangs when trying to charge mobile while it is off.
- MGLDR 1.13 reboots (as a momentary fix) in order to avoid the hanging caused in 1.12
Problem is
- I can't stand the fact that we have to have 2 OS'es to get it charged properly
- I can't stand the fact the we have to remove the battery in order to get it charged externally via cradle charger
So we have to adapt to the present circumstances unfortunately. If nothing, and the fix does not give you more battery life, this method avoids you from
- buying/carrying a cradle charger with you when abroad.
- having a dual boot system (WP7 / Android) on your phone
- making you do crazy/quick fixes such as the USB cable thingy mentioned above ... (don't try it)
no need for anything of that!
HOW TO:
So in a nutshell if you drained your battery too much and don't have a cradle charger ... with the added bonus that you may get improved battery life out of WP7 is the following.
- Boot into MGLDR setup menu (hold the end call button at start up)
- Boot your mobile and hold the "End Call button" to go into the MGLDR setup screen.
- Choose USB Storage menu
- METHOD A - Let the mobile Charge for 6 hours (typically overnight would be ideal) (Note: It will not over-charge and it will not damage your battery.
OR
- METHOD B - Charge the mobile for 4 hours (to keep mobile on overnight) and charge the last hour in usb-mass storage mode. This has the added benefit that you do not get your screen on for a long time. This will not damage your battery and those of you who are worried about over-charge can go for this alternative and not take any risks.
- NOTE that you will NOT get the charging indicator ON in this mode. PRECISELY that's the whole point of charging in this mode, the battery will charge to its fullest as it is not under the influence of the WP7 software. It is like as if you put the battery in a cradle charger and charged it outside.
- When you wake up ... hit the back button to go to main menu and choose RESET option to reboot your mobile : ) and voila!
RESULTS:
- I got improved battery life charging the mobile in this MODE. I got 36 hrs + of battery life (normal usage) which is very good.
ADDED BENEFIT: QUICKFIX FOR DEAD BATTERY - NO CRADLE CHARGER - NO DUAL BOOT
- There seems to be mixed feelings about this as some of the readers have reported no discenable difference in battery performance. While I will not contradict these people, I got improved longevity from the HD2's battery. Clearly the OS is reporting the battery level badly. If NOTHING this method still serves as a quick fix
- if you drained your battery and cannot get your HD2 on again
AND
- You Do not own a cradle charger
- Registry did not work for me.
SETTINGS - WHICH IMPROVE BATTERY LIFE:
- You can optimise settings as follows in order to get my same results, again I hear many of you not wanting this as it turns of features from their PDA but as I said above, we have to adapt for the time being:
Settings are -
- ROM DFT Stock ROM original build (issued 13/01/2011)
- Radio 2.15
- Screen timeout 30 seconds
- Screen brightness set to auto
- Wifi turned off (on only when needed)
- Bluetooth turned off (on only when needed)
- Location turned off (on only when needed)
- Data Connection turned off (on only when needing to check mail)
- Email sync turned off (not every 30 mins)
- 3g turned ON - UPDATED - I got better battery life with 3G ON but this may change from country to country so I suggest that you have a go with 3G being ON or OFF and see which is better for you....)
IF YOU USE THIS POST - HIT THE THANKS BUTTON - IT's the LEAST you could do!
Regards all
Alcatraz
Hi Alcatrazx,
sounds logical I´ll give it a try and report later, thanks.
pronor
Thx
Thx Bro!
Will try it later too. I'll report.
One question though... Do you need to do this everytime you charge your phone, or just the first charge?
Sounds interesting, I will try and report
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One question though... Do you need to do this everytime you charge your phone, or just the first charge?
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Sounds like you have to do everytime... If you reboot your WP7, the battery is under the influence of the software again and does not charge correctly. Beat me if I'm wrong
Very interesting. I will try it
It's a good idea for some times, but I would not use it as an every night thing.
I sometimes get calls or messages during the night (and usually they are important). Another thing is that if you use your phone to wake you up this will not work at all.
I hope WP7 development progresses and solves this issue in the upcoming updates.
Nevertheless it's a nice way of going by, and thanks for taking the time to test it and post about it.
PS: does the light turn green after 6hours of charging or not. Probably not, but worth asking .
Another solution should be to charge a second battery in an external charger...
pronor
Another issue with this "workaround" is that MAGLDR keeps the screen opened, which can cause some devices to overheat, so be cautious with this one. I say that an external charger is the smartest alternative. I actually use this method and it works perfectly.
karendar said:
Another issue with this "workaround" is that MAGLDR keeps the screen opened, which can cause some devices to overheat, so be cautious with this one. I say that an external charger is the smartest alternative. I actually use this method and it works perfectly.
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Sorry to sound pessimistic, BUT, people have already reported clearly in other Threads that they have tried the solution of charging their battery using an external charger with no luck. I can't see how this is any different. In addition, 6 hours will probably kill your battery in the long run (overcharging) - I have queried HTC support about it in the past.
Simple enough mate! Though 6 hours of battery charging will probably make significant damage to your HD2 battery... HD2 normally will charge in about 1 and a half hour or 2 udner WM6.5 or Android!
Not bad idea though! Bravo..
Charging while in Android remains for me the most convenient option. I must say though that this battery issue in wp7 is not that obvious for me. The phone charges quite well in wp7 and only sometimes I feel the need for a restart, after which the percentage increases with 15, not more.
most chargers since the beginning of time have a battery cut off, when the charger unit detects the polarity is starting to reverse it switches off, of course i cant say for sure using the MAGLDR method would use this, potentially it could just be a case of "connecting two wires to a battery" which as you guys have pointed out would not been good, at worst your battery could get seriously hot, or potentially if you reverse the battery polarity enough you would have half of a battery thats unusable.
I think what should be taken from this however, is that like myself and other have been saying for a long time, if your battery is charged propperly it will last a long longer, people reporting empty batteries within 20 odd hours, in my opinion, either have dud batteries or are not charging them properly
the MAJOR plus side to this post is the ability to fix the empty battery restart issue, that alone makes this idea a gold star and should be stickied!
dazza9075 said:
most chargers since the beginning of time have a battery cut off, when the charger unit detects the polarity is starting to reverse it switches off, of course i cant say for sure using the MAGLDR method would use this, potentially it could just be a case of "connecting two wires to a battery" which as you guys have pointed out would not been good, at worst your battery could get seriously hot, or potentially if you reverse the battery polarity enough you would have half of a battery thats unusable.
I think what should be taken from this however, is that like myself and other have been saying for a long time, if your battery is charged propperly it will last a long longer, people reporting empty batteries within 20 odd hours, in my opinion, either have dud batteries or are not charging them properly
the MAJOR plus side to this post is the ability to fix the empty battery restart issue, that alone makes this idea a gold star and should be stickied!
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People reporting these batteries issues my friend are people who are knowledgable enough to reach to xda-developers forums - i.e. people who have a pretty good understanding of what battery drainage is and whether their batteries are dying or not; who have installed a number of winmo roms, android roms etc.
there are roms that drain battery and others that handle power better. in the ports of Windows Phone 7 for HTC HD2 there is an issue with battery drainage, and thats a fact.
There is no issue with bat drainage but with false bat stat reporting.
TheOnly1 said:
There is no issue with bat drainage but with false bat stat reporting.
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Thats the true Sir but how fix it
TheOnly1 said:
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Thank you, thats what i was saying, apparently not very well
ndamianou said:
People reporting these batteries issues my friend are people who are knowledgable enough to reach to xda-developers forums - i.e. people who have a pretty good understanding of what battery drainage is and whether their batteries are dying or not; who have installed a number of winmo roms, android roms etc.
there are roms that drain battery and others that handle power better. in the ports of Windows Phone 7 for HTC HD2 there is an issue with battery drainage, and thats a fact.
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your level of wit and sarcasm is actually quite funny given that you completely got my point wrong, the issue is quite simply this, the drivers for our HD2 are copies from another device, a device that is similar but not the same, the issues we have with battery are down to the fact that WE do not know if the battery is charged or not, at least at a first glance, and given the inability of many people on here to actually read threads and posts correctly it is not beyond the realm of possibility that many users dont know what level there battery is charged to, thus it may not be charged propperly.
If windows reports a full battery and its only half full then it will "appear" to empty twice as quick, now i think thats pretty clear for every one?
huismeester said:
Thats the true Sir but how fix it
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we cant
our phone must be different to a degree than the phone this ROM is based off otherwise we wouldnt have the issue, lets all assume for a second we can actually start chopping and changing files in WP7 like WM. We would need to find some sort of driver that exactly matches our HD2 and i doubt that will happen.
whoever made the driver isnt going to just bring out a new version for an old peice of hardware that isnt supported by MS, perhaps if a new piece of hardware has the same battery controller as us something can be done.....maybe
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Thats the true Sir but how fix it
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You have the following options:
1. Try the registry tweak. That worked for me and I actually have no battery issues for the last 2 weeks or so.
2. Charge the battery under Android during the night. That's pretty usable as you only need to reboot and you still have a fully functional phone Way better IMO than the USB Mass Storage trick.
I have a minimal Android installation on my SD (Angry Birds, you know) and it currently reports roughly the same values as WP7.
Hello everyone! I would have posted this in the actual GSB thread but I don't seem to have the correct privileges yet so I am posting here instead.
First off, I just want to thank workshed for his awesome work. I really do love the ROM and everything about it. However, I have a few small issues with it that I can't seem to figure out.
First off, my battery life is terrible. Take yesterday for example. I used my phone probably twice to send some texts in the morning and to check the time. Charged it throughout the night and pulled it off the charger when I woke up and began my day. Within two hours, my phones battery was down to 75%. Five hours later, it was completely dead and I hadn't even used it.
My second issue is with settings. For some reason, when I reboot, some of my setting don't get saved. The one thing that really bothers me is the keyboard. I have Swype installed and every time the phone shuts off, I have to go into settings and re-enable Swype as my keyboard. It is just a hassle and is kind of frustrating, especially when I forget to do and then go to send a message.
Other than those two issues, I absolutely love the ROM and wouldn't change it for anything else. Anyone have any suggestions for what I can do about my few issues?
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First off, my battery life is terrible. Take yesterday for example. I used my phone probably twice to send some texts in the morning and to check the time. Charged it throughout the night and pulled it off the charger when I woke up and began my day. Within two hours, my phones battery was down to 75%. Five hours later, it was completely dead and I hadn't even used it.
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Recharge it until you get a green light. Restart the phone in Recovery, go to the Wipe menu, and wipe the battery stats (I'd keep the phone on power for this.) Restart the phone, pull the power and use as you normally would. Ignore anybody who tells you that you must run the battery down until the phone shuts itself off - this is really not great for the battery (though once a month or so isn't bad), and really isn't necessary for the battery calculations to reset themselves with new usage stats. The longer you can go the better, but it's not necessary to change your phone usage habits so that you have a completely discharged phone.
They covered this very topic in Lifehacker today! http://lifehacker.com/#!5786717/get...ted-android-phone-by-wiping-its-battery-stats
doogald said:
Recharge it until you get a green light. Restart the phone in Recovery, go to the Wipe menu, and wipe the battery stats (I'd keep the phone on power for this.) Restart the phone, pull the power and use as you normally would. Ignore anybody who tells you that you must run the battery down until the phone shuts itself off - this is really not great for the battery (though once a month or so isn't bad), and really isn't necessary for the battery calculations to reset themselves with new usage stats. The longer you can go the better, but it's not necessary to change your phone usage habits so that you have a completely discharged phone.
They covered this very topic in Lifehacker today! http://lifehacker.com/#!5786717/get...ted-android-phone-by-wiping-its-battery-stats
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Thank you for that information, I shall try it out and see if it helps!
I also forget to mention one more error. Whenever I boot up the phone, my Facebook account sets itself to not sync and I lose all my contact pictures. I then have to open the Facebook application and set it to sync again.
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Sorry, didn't realize it was a double post!
My battery life is similar to the OP's. I can make it through the day, but since I am ususally down to about 60% by one or two pm (from 6 or 7 am) I prefer a mid-day charge just to make sure I can last through the evening.
I just flashed [ROM][3/22/2011] GSB v2.2 | GingerBread 2.3.3 [CM7.0.0 RC2 NIGHTLY] a few days ago and it has been running great, but I noticed that my green light (battery fully charged) now comes on @ 90%.
Before it would not turn from amber to green till 100%. Should I wipe battery stats?
Under battery use (sry no screenies) there is nothing unusual:
Display @57%, everything else under 10%.
But when I checked Spare Parts I noticed that my little Eris won't sleep!
It looks like Android system is the culprit, keeping a partial wake lock.
Battery History in Spare Parts:
Other Usage - Since last unplugged
Running 100%
Screen on 13.2%
Wifi on 100%
Wifi running 91.6%
Partial wake usage - Since last unplugged
Android System almost a full blue bar, all other apps minimal bars
The phone has more or less been sitting at my desk at work in wifi with light usage.
Anyone have any idea why Android System is trying to eat my battery?
i had battery problems on gsb its a great rom. i switch to ginger tazz. with tazz's rom i get more then 20hrs b4 it says to connect charger thats with the display on about 4 hours and wifi on and running facebook tapatalk calls texts and whatever i think of doing.
I'm running GSB 2.5 CM RC 4 and I now have been able to get 25 hours with 70% of battery left. I used to be able to get maybe 24 hours before it died. Now your mileage may vary but this is what I do. I removed Task Killer which was eating a bunch or the battery and after a visit to Amazon's app market their little app was running all the time along with Weather Bug so both of them are now gone. and finally I turned off auto sync ( I can check my email when ever I want and it takes a lot less battery). By turning off auto sync that was what really made the difference for me. Of course there are many things you can do but running WiFi will kill your battery faster than 3g (or at least it does on mine) and I have the screen brightness set at 18. Just a note I leave BT and GPS on all the time when they are not being used an are in standby their usage is quit small.
What works for you would depend on if you want your email pushed to you all the time and if you have to have your WiFi on instead of 3g.
Again it's just my observations for my phone.
Really you should just do the first suggestion and recalibrate your battery.
Also if you read closely in workshed's log, he specifically said to a full wipe not only formatting external memory but also doing a dalvik/cache wipe. You may as well also wipe the battery stats while you're at it.
Personally I'm running GSB 2.5 and it's simply amazing. 60% of the battery gets me from wake-up alarm to nighttime charge.
Hope you figure it out!
After I installed GSB 2.5, my battery also seems to be rapidly discharging. Takes less than an hour of no use, wifi-on to drop from 100% to ~80%. I did a full discharge calibration on my battery as soon as I flashed to this GSB 2.5
I will attempt the simple batt stat wipe at 100% and see if that helps at all. I'll let you guys know.
Hi All
Been searching but cant seem to find anything.
Since forcing the update via zune i have found the battery life to be appalling. Doesnt even last a day without charging. Im using the same apps and same or less usage.
Befor the mango update (nodo) I was getting nearly two days before completly draining the battery...now i will be lucky to get 9 hours!
anyone else experience such issues...seriously thinking of going back to no do.
amowolves said:
Hi All
Been searching but cant seem to find anything.
Since forcing the update via zune i have found the battery life to be appalling. Doesnt even last a day without charging. Im using the same apps and same or less usage.
Befor the mango update (nodo) I was getting nearly two days before completly draining the battery...now i will be lucky to get 9 hours!
anyone else experience such issues...seriously thinking of going back to no do.
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I have been beta user of Mango and recently updated to Mango.. and no I dont have that problem. Mine works same as earlier.
In my Mozart, mango drain battery much more then pre-NODO version even with sync set to manual, data connection off, wifi off, 3g off, location off, BT off and it drains more then 5% per 5hours during my sleep pre-nodo almost nothing.
well ive tried setting the sync to every 15mins as oppossed to as it arrives..so lets see if that helps...but it definately drains more than nodo on the same settings....i wonder if more is going on in the background than we can see...
I have the same issue- my first charge lasted 11 hours and i was sleeping for 7 of those hours...
well so far ive been going for 6hours and its on 70% so hopefully the sync timing may have resolved the issue somewhat...its saying 10hrs or so left...so thats a bit better than what has been doing since the update.
Charging my Mozart direct to a power point takes a shorter time to charge than charging through USB
As long as im not playing games all day my mozart seems to last all day if i charge it from about 12am till 7am when i get up for work.
can't say i've got this issue, i've updated to official Mango RTM and i find the battery is about the same. Wifi on all day, one push email account and about 1 hour worth of phone calls, some internet browsing, it's still over 50%
well i think the sync issue sorted it. after setting it to check every 15mins it held its charge all day. disconnected it at 8.30am and come 9pm it still said it had 50% battery left.
so all in all much better than the past few days where it would go into battery save mode by 5pm.
I made hard reset on Mango and after that I feel battery life is a little better.
Battery is steal strong !
for me the bigest battery consumer is data connection, when I turn it off battery live is a little bit better
based on my experience, my battery was definitely longer after the mango update. with nodo my battery cant last that long.
I just flashed to nhathoa's 5.01 ROM.
This is a problem I faced even before the ROM flash. Whenever I power down the device and connect it to the USB to charge, the device will wake up by itself. It seems there is no way to charge the battery while power is off
well ive been running the phone now for a few days using the new setting and all seems to be well...i can get away without charging my phone for 24hrs if need be so thats much better than the original 8hrs or so.
Maybe I mean...
GPS is allways on ...radio driver bug
SPL issue ?
is turning the battery saver always on bad for the phone? other than of course no push etc. i am just wondering if it will have an adverse effect on your battery if i always want to squeeze every drop of my battery.
I have tried many different ROMs and I am supposed to say, that it is different with every ROM... Finally I bought Mugen Power battery 1800 mAh. Standard battery wasn't able to last one day (12 hours). Now it is OK
Another thing... This ROM helped with battery... After flashing it, I have a longer battery life...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304422
In my case, after updating to new firmware and software my battery full capacity indicator has become sort of crazy (for the worst).
Before updating I got a solid 1390 mAh always. Now It depends on the day, but It never surpases the 1270 mAh. Barrier.
Today I´m getting a poor 1170 mAh.
Strange thing.
Anyone else experiencing this issue?
luisillons said:
In my case, after updating to new firmware and software my battery full capacity indicator has become sort of crazy (for the worst).
Before updating I got a solid 1390 mAh always. Now It depends on the day, but It never surpases the 1270 mAh. Barrier.
Today I´m getting a poor 1170 mAh.
Strange thing.
Anyone else experiencing this issue?
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From my review, my battery seems to be getting better now, first week after the update, battery was dreadful, it seems to be a whole lot better now. Give it a week, if it continues, email Nokia support, since you hopefully have your warranty, they'll check and replace it if it's faulty, I'm suffering from some horrible notification bug, that's worse, getting your notification when you enter message/whatsapp...-_-
Have same problem. The last update have reduced full charge capacity from 1420 mA to 1303 mA and it's still decreasing every charge. Hope is's soft bug, otherwise nokia should exchange killed batteries phones.
Nokia says not to trust their diagnostics tool when it comes to degrading capacity. The battery should be fine anyway unless it reports less than 1000mAh.
Nokia's biggest mistake was making the Diagnostics available to every user. Now everybody thinks Nokia stole their precious mAh...
Note: It doesn't even matter the update gave us some hours in autonomy.
Yep. Without it most users would actually enjoy their phones.
So the Diagnostics tool gives a bad reading?
Today, when I plugged the charger off, the charge percent inmediately went down from 100% to 98%. Maybe there´s some kind of software bug thay doesn´t give the real battery performance.
P.S.: I actually enjoy my phone. Love it.
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So the Diagnostics tool gives a bad reading?
Today, when I plugged the charger off, the charge percent inmediately went down from 100% to 98%. Maybe there´s some kind of software bug thay doesn´t give the real battery performance.
P.S.: I actually enjoy my phone. Love it.
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This happened to me also this morning. Took my phone off charge, unlocked it and then was at 98% but going to keep an eye on it throughout the day. I got roughly 15 hours use yesterday and 5 hours of that was when i was at work.
I am getting terrible battery life after the update. 100 % at last mid night. By the morning it is at 85%. It seems the battery life got worsen by a 40 % decrease before the update.
Should I restore my Lumia 800?
I get weird battery issue on my latest 800. About every second charge the battery drains very fast doing nothing. The next charge it is fine. Next after that it can drain. And so it goes. Something fishy with software indeed. It was preloaded with 11501 from factory so I have not updated myself.
Nokia need to take a detailed look at this. As it is now they fully think the issue is fixed when in face it is not. As the topic implies it actually made things worse compared to old firmware. Those 15% charge that were lost in old firmware it lasted longer anyway because it had no drain.
dannejanne said:
I get weird battery issue on my latest 800. About every second charge the battery drains very fast doing nothing. The next charge it is fine. Next after that it can drain. And so it goes. Something fishy with software indeed. It was preloaded with 11501 from factory so I have not updated myself.
Nokia need to take a detailed look at this. As it is now they fully think the issue is fixed when in face it is not. As the topic implies it actually made things worse compared to old firmware. Those 15% charge that were lost in old firmware it lasted longer anyway because it had no drain.
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Yup, you're right, I'm getting that, some days it's pretty good, and some days it's just damn awful.
sHaHiN786 said:
Yup, you're right, I'm getting that, some days it's pretty good, and some days it's just damn awful.
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I have made a factory reset just for the heck of it. Also I have recently started rebooting my phone with the charger plugged after every charge and then unplug when it is booted again. So far no drain after doing so but too early to make any conclusions.
I reseted the phone on a charge cycle with drain and after the reset the drain stopped. So something weird is going on. Hadn't really installed apps etc... syncing/location etc off...
sHaHiN786 said:
Yup, you're right, I'm getting that, some days it's pretty good, and some days it's just damn awful.
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Unfortunately I do not even have the good days result. After I updated my Lumia to .11500 my battery drains really quick with doing nothing. Before going to sleep I had about 60%, waking up it was empty, in 6 hours! Before I could last about 1.5 days with my phone. Hardly 10 hours with normal use. 3G on but wifi and bt off.
Does anyone know how to change this or to change it back to the earlier version of software?
I love this phone and its OS, but the battery consumption is just wrong!
Thanks.
dannejanne said:
I get weird battery issue on my latest 800. About every second charge the battery drains very fast doing nothing. The next charge it is fine. Next after that it can drain. And so it goes. Something fishy with software indeed. It was preloaded with 11501 from factory so I have not updated myself.
Nokia need to take a detailed look at this. As it is now they fully think the issue is fixed when in face it is not. As the topic implies it actually made things worse compared to old firmware. Those 15% charge that were lost in old firmware it lasted longer anyway because it had no drain.
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Same issue with battery drain. Not that frequent though. Two times in two weeks. It´s random I think. Thing is that I´ve noticed that it has occurred when the phone shows maximum than my average battery capacity.
Normally phone shows 1170 mAh when fully charged. Strangely enough I get a very decent battery life. More than 24 hours with normal to heavy use.
But today it showed 1370 mAh fully charged and it´s not passed 12 hour barrier.
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Same issue with battery drain. Not that frequent though. Two times in two weeks. It´s random I think. Thing is that I´ve noticed that it has occurred when the phone shows maximum than my average battery capacity.
Normally phone shows 1170 mAh when fully charged. Strangely enough I get a very decent battery life. More than 24 hours with normal to heavy use.
But today it showed 1370 mAh fully charged and it´s not passed 12 hour barrier.
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Since I made that factory reset the drain has not come back so far. Now I get good battery life and it's usually at 70% when I go to sleep at nights with moderate use throughout the day.
Is this what everyone is doing for best battery or is it just me?
Used to get heavy drain when I get the mobile:
I had to do below:
1) Location services off - i use very low though.
2) Removing people tile
3) Display brightness - LOW
4) Settings->Applications->Games->Connect to Xbox LIVE-> OFF
(with ON, used to drain battery alot atleast for me)
5) Settings->Background tasks->Weather->Off
(not sure of this, but I don't use it so I switched off)
6) Removing XBox Live Tile (In fact all live tiles like App Highlights etc...)
7) Date+time -> Set automatically -> OFFFF (I don't think we need it unless we go to other country)
8) Phone Update -> Turn off notifications
By the way,
I use push email outlook on always
Schilkeplayer said:
Unfortunately I do not even have the good days result. After I updated my Lumia to .11500 my battery drains really quick with doing nothing. Before going to sleep I had about 60%, waking up it was empty, in 6 hours! Before I could last about 1.5 days with my phone. Hardly 10 hours with normal use. 3G on but wifi and bt off.
Does anyone know how to change this or to change it back to the earlier version of software?
I love this phone and its OS, but the battery consumption is just wrong!
Thanks.
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Just restore your backup in Zune. Connect the phone, go to the phone tab. Settings -> updates -> restore. Good luck!
devildevel said:
Used to get heavy drain when I get the mobile:
I had to do below:
1) Location services off - i use very low though.
2) Removing people tile
3) Display brightness - LOW
4) Settings->Applications->Games->Connect to Xbox LIVE-> OFF
(with ON, used to drain battery alot atleast for me)
5) Settings->Background tasks->Weather->Off
(not sure of this, but I don't use it so I switched off)
6) Removing XBox Live Tile (In fact all live tiles like App Highlights etc...)
7) Date+time -> Set automatically -> OFFFF (I don't think we need it unless we go to other country)
8) Phone Update -> Turn off notifications
By the way,
I use push email outlook on always
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Unnecessary restriction..
uiqjirka said:
Unnecessary restriction..
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What to do. Now a days all smart phones come with great features and poor battery life.
By the way, anybody knows how to turn off fast dormancy in our lumia 800? I used to get much better battery life by turning off fast dormancy in android phones ( obviously my network is not supporting the feature though)
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devildevel said:
Used to get heavy drain when I get the mobile:
I had to do below:
1) Location services off - i use very low though.
2) Removing people tile
3) Display brightness - LOW
4) Settings->Applications->Games->Connect to Xbox LIVE-> OFF
(with ON, used to drain battery alot atleast for me)
5) Settings->Background tasks->Weather->Off
(not sure of this, but I don't use it so I switched off)
6) Removing XBox Live Tile (In fact all live tiles like App Highlights etc...)
7) Date+time -> Set automatically -> OFFFF (I don't think we need it unless we go to other country)
8) Phone Update -> Turn off notifications
By the way,
I use push email outlook on always
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So you're limiting the phones key features for a battery problem? Why not contact Nokia? I must be honest, if Nokia were to tell me to switch off so many features of my phone, I would tell them to kindly p*** off, as I've had many phones before it that didn't pose a problem like this, if it's a fault, they should act to it, not make you rectify their mistakes. At the end of the day, if you broke your phone accidently, would they fix it for you? So why should you?