Should I flash a ROM? or just root? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys. I just got my unlocked S2. After looking around I like the default apps and stuff. Kies Air is awesome too. If I flash do I lose those apps? Am an experienced user. And think yeah but dunno. Worth flashing a ROM? stock stuff is nice.

SilentRazor said:
Hey guys. I just got my unlocked S2. After looking around I like the default apps and stuff. Kies Air is awesome too. If I flash do I lose those apps? Am an experienced user. And think yeah but dunno. Worth flashing a ROM? stock stuff is nice.
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I have been thinking the same to!

Hello there. It depends on what you are flashing. There are two kinds of roms, those based on official sammy roms and ASOP roms (like cyanogen) which are clean and built from scratch. If you don't want to lose the other apps I recommend you flash a rom based on official sammy roms or just root because usually ASOP roms don't contain much and they can't use any sammy based programs/apks.

prinzhernan said:
Hello there. It depends on what you are flashing. There are two kinds of roms, those based on official sammy roms and ASOP roms (like cyanogen) which are clean and built from scratch. If you don't want to lose the other apps I recommend you flash a rom based on official sammy roms or just root because usually ASOP roms don't contain much and they can't use any sammy based programs/apks.
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Well for some reason with this phone I like Samsung apps. So no ASOP this time. Weird. Well what are some good Samsung custom ROMs?

SilentRazor said:
Well for some reason with this phone I like Samsung apps. So no ASOP this time. Weird. Well what are some good Samsung custom ROMs?
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Yeah, I like them too. You could try:
Lite'ning Rom
Exynos Extreme
Criskelo Rom
I've tried these and they're good. Samsung goodness but faster and snappier. Enjoy flashing.

Basics are you root if you need root it does not make your phone go faster .
Custom roms may or may not wipe apps its all in the description of each rom .
Little performance difference between custom and stock rom .
jje

Root- It's a must imo.
A Custom ROM- Depends on how mad you are about them. I am not.

I agree just root with cfroot if you like the stock apps etc.
Personally I think KI8 is worth a look.
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Which custom ROM is 99-100% bug free ?

So I want to install some custom ROM but as I can see EVERY ROM has some bugs and I really hate that, is there any ROM that can be installed and that they are bug free, I want to use the phone, not flash it every week. I really like CriskeloROM, it looks great and it has that great camera tweak for better sound but it has some BT issues etc. So other are, MIUI, Cyanogen and Darkys, are they bug free ?
Thanks
MIUI based on CM7 & AOSP, CM7 based on AOSP, both of these are not yet stable but good enough for daily usage, camera's are much weaker compared to stock Samsung.
Samsung based roms stick with something based on stock, like VillainRom, KitchenRom, and such. Plenty to choose from.
Or custom roms such as Cog, CheckRom, HyperDroid, plenty to choose from. Read each one and see what users are saying about them, best way is experimenting yourself.
Then either stick with CF Root as a kernel based on stock or experiment with others like Speedmod, Siyah and a like.
Asking a general question like this will usually lead to comments from users on roms they are currently on saying its the best etc, so you'd be even more lost!
I could say X is good Y would say Z is good and such
for one why do you want to flash a custom ROM? first answert that to yourself
if answer comes i rerally dont want, then simply root your phone.
you can always flash stock newer roms like 2.3.5 roms
i for one actually dont need custom roms as im very much happy with stock and anything i cant do on stock i can after root.
i used to use custom roms when on my older htc phones when stock were slower and custom roms were faster, but with this specs stock is fast enough.
Thanks to both. Well, I want to have that better camera that has better video and sound and also I like those lock screen on CriskeloROM with shortcuts like HTC. And I hope that they have better battery and are fasgter than stock !? If, not, is there 2.3.5 stock that has Croatian language and I coul try ti use that rooted first and remove some Samsung annoying apps, right now KIES says 2.3.3 is the latest. I definitely dont want worse camera on my phone, only better so pelase direct me in the right way because I dont know where I can find stock 2.3.5 woth better camera app.
Tnx a lot
Cognition for me. Always install ROMs fresh to prevent problems.
Go for a KI4 rom, Criskelo had modified the camera for that 2.3.5 version you can download and just replace using a root file explorer.
As for rom, I'd say look into RomKitchen, optimized stock rom and works well. The guys over there are also very nice and helpful. Like most tbh.
Ok, but can you please point me what I need ? I have CF-Root now and I have read that I should not use ROM Manager for backup of current ROM and I dont know how do make NANDroid backup ? Is that with 3 button combo and then I have that option ?
Also, I see that there are more than one thread with RomKitchen name in it, which one should I take and how can I know if they have croatian because I didnt find that info on any ROM. I can backup my ROM with CWM app ? I have just clicked it and it has rebooted and backuping something on internal memory, I didnt turn on the phone with 3 button combo.
EDIT: is this the one, in the 2nd post ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171523&highlight=kitchen
Tnx
One more thing, if I make complete backup with Titanium and then restore it on some ROM which does not have stock Samsung apps will it be ok then and it will not restore those apps ?
Ah wait, they don't do KI4, only KI8 & KI3 in kitchen.
To flash a rom via CWM, vol up + home + power, I recommend installing fresh, so wipe factory data, cache and dalvik cache under advanced.
Use Titanium to only back up app data for your applications and no system data.
You can use KI8 or KI3 those are good to, KI8 being newer, or from their post KJ1.
http://romkitchen.org/sgs2/?s=generator
I have donwloaded this KitchenApp and there I can see more ROMs and other oprion, I dont need to install other kernel ? Now I have XWKF3. When I choose everything I just press download and it will download it on my phone and from that Kitchen app I can install that ROM ? I can make the ROM in app and here online, it says GAlaxy S but I hope it is for i9100. I generate ROM and then transfer it to root of the mass storage and then flash it trough KitchenPro app on the phone ? It will NOT erase my photos and backups on mass memory ? What backup and with what app should I make before flashing ? I have made some with ROM Manager, I hope it is ok.
What Model and Kernel to choose ?
But if I want to backup apps and widgets from the Market with Titanium ? Or just choose thoe market apps and not system apps and settings ?
Thank you VERY much for your patience but when I make it one time then I will learn, now I have like zillion questions because I come from iPhone 4.
What kitchen app?
Oh you are using CheckROM? That's the newer one, I was talking about RomKitchen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14934522&postcount=5
I have tested many Roms but for me Hyperdroid from Androidmeda is the best Rom out here.. Fast smooth and a hyper great support... Since this Rom I never switched to another Rom... I am AT HOME
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Is CheckROM ok ? It seems great.
@seavers11: please dont mess with my head with another ROM )) I must take one that is bugfree and that it looks great, I dont mind speed and that stupid quadrant score.
CheckRom is good, the kitchen app allows for easy customization.
Just trying out GingerMod and that's lovely as well. AOSP feel based on Samsung firmware with mostly AOSP apps but with some goodies from Samsung left over like camera and such.
Your spoilt for choice
Which CSC, Kernel and modem should I use ??
<3 <3 Batista Rom <3 <3
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damirbusic said:
Which CSC, Kernel and modem should I use ??
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Depends on were you live for CSC and modem. I use UK csc and KI1 modem as it gives me better data coverage.
Kernel I'm using latest rc2 of SiyahKernel, running fine so far.
But go for something stable maybe SpeedMod or CF root based on stock later you can experiment with other kernels.
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Im in Croatia and now I have CF-Root and it is fine, what else shoul I choose there to make my ROM ? Do I need to take Europe version so I can have Croatian language ?
Tnx
nikzDHD said:
MIUI based on CM7 & AOSP, CM7 based on AOSP, both of these are not yet stable but good enough for daily usage, camera's are much weaker compared to stock Samsung.
Samsung based roms stick with something based on stock, like VillainRom, KitchenRom, and such. Plenty to choose from.
Or custom roms such as Cog, CheckRom, HyperDroid, plenty to choose from. Read each one and see what users are saying about them, best way is experimenting yourself.
Then either stick with CF Root as a kernel based on stock or experiment with others like Speedmod, Siyah and a like.
Asking a general question like this will usually lead to comments from users on roms they are currently on saying its the best etc, so you'd be even more lost!
I could say X is good Y would say Z is good and such
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Cognition looks like a really good rom but isnt it based on stock?
I still dont get what "HyperDroid" about , is it a stock rom themed?
nikzDHD said:
Just trying out GingerMod and that's lovely as well. AOSP feel based on Samsung firmware with mostly AOSP apps but with some goodies from Samsung left over like camera and such.
Your spoilt for choice
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OMG i just checked that rom and it looks amazing! built for touchwiz haters like me, who still admit that the samsung browser and camera app are far better than stock android
The new Checkrom and Leo's kitchen is very solid, I don't think there's anything bugfree but it gives the easiest option I've seen to try different builds.

benifits of custom roms ?

quick question,
basically what are the benifits of custom roms compared to stock kies roms ?
i currently have rr 2.2 rom but appart from the looks and animations etc.. is there a difference in performance/ battery compared to stock?
its been a while sinse i have been on stock so i cant remember what it was like and i just wanted to know are custom roms more better in terms or speed/battery/power etc..
thanks
jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
quick question,
basically what are the benifits of custom roms compared to stock kies roms ?
i currently have rr 2.2 rom but appart from the looks and animations etc.. is there a difference in performance/ battery compared to stock?
its been a while sinse i have been on stock so i cant remember what it was like and i just wanted to know are custom roms more better in terms or speed/battery/power etc..
thanks
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custom rom do come with there own pro's and con's u have to check the changelog of that rom to see whats different in it also some apps which do require root previlage wrks fine with custom roms rather than stock one's
stock roms do have better batt life compared 2 custom ones at the cost of customization with there dull and boring looks
thanks for your reply i guess its just finding the correct balance between customization and battery life then. cheers
go with custom
I had the exact same thoughts when i first decided to flash a custom rom.
Personally i would now flash a custom rom at the drop of a hat, however as the previous comment said there are pros and cons.
do some research on roms with functionality that you require and you'll find one you want to flash no doubt.
hope i helped
i am now running CM9 and its so smooth and looks amazing, a millions times better than stock in almost every way!
Check out the ROM and the comments which people have wrote. Some of them may be good and others may be bad.. you'll be able to work out the missing features of the custom rom bother you or not ^__^ That's how I work out whether to install the ROM XD Most ICS ROM's have their benefits and cons, Gingerbread would be considered the most stable Hope this helps you
jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
quick question,
basically what are the benifits of custom roms compared to stock kies roms ?
i currently have rr 2.2 rom but appart from the looks and animations etc.. is there a difference in performance/ battery compared to stock?
its been a while sinse i have been on stock so i cant remember what it was like and i just wanted to know are custom roms more better in terms or speed/battery/power etc..
thanks
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Highly customizable. You can overclock, undervolt, theme, use different launchers. To me they're faster too.
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cheers guys i guess custom seems the way forward, just need to research the changelog of each rom that takes my fancy
thanks again guys !!
What about if I install a custom kernel, but keep my stock rom? Is there any benefit at all?
To clarify: I'm on i19100 4.0.3 which I've recently rooted. Thinking of installing Siyah 3.5.2 but for now I want to keep my stock (Bell) ROM. What do I stand to gain when I get the Siyah kernel, if anything? Or is the kernel really *only* just a prerequisite to get a custom ROM?
Thanks!
fgoyti said:
What about if I install a custom kernel, but keep my stock rom? Is there any benefit at all?
To clarify: I'm on i19100 4.0.3 which I've recently rooted. Thinking of installing Siyah 3.5.2 but for now I want to keep my stock (Bell) ROM. What do I stand to gain when I get the Siyah kernel, if anything? Or is the kernel really *only* just a prerequisite to get a custom ROM?
Thanks!
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with siyah 3.5.2 installed u can be sure that no brick bug for u
and u can flash any custom ICS or JB rom with it
Sun90 said:
with siyah 3.5.2 installed u can be sure that no brick bug for u
and u can flash any custom ICS or JB rom with it
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But there's already no brick bug on 4.0.3 right? So... what exactly would I gain with the Siyah kernel?
The only thing I can think of is CPU/kernel modding
kilometers4 said:
Highly customizable. You can overclock, undervolt, theme, use different launchers. To me they're faster too.
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I am doing same on stock
Peace
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Sent from S II Running Official ICS 4.0.4 with Siyah 4.1 [/size]
One BIG reason I'm on stock ROM and KERNEL is that currently no custom Kernel supports MHL (please correct me if I'm wrong)
For me this is a big problem as I'm always watching movies and playing games on my TV with my phone
Obagleyfreer said:
One BIG reason I'm on stock ROM and KERNEL is that currently no custom Kernel supports MHL (please correct me if I'm wrong)
For me this is a big problem as I'm always watching movies and playing games on my TV with my phone
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It's the ROM, not the kernel, that determines if MHL fully works.
Apparently video works with AOSP, but not full mirror of the display.
However, if you want full mirroring, you'll need to be on a stock Samsung based ROM.
That said, you can still run a custom kernel, such as Siyah or SpeedMod, and MHL will still work as long as you remain on the Samsung based ROM.
I'm currently running stock XWLPX with Siyah 4.1.4, and MHL works fully for me.

What is the flapjack rom?

I keep hearing about the flapjax rom or something, cant find it. I dont think im spelling it right. Where is it? Is it very stable? Looking for the MOST stable rom with good language keyboard support for my mom. She doesnt need all the cool features, might even go with stock but if there's a stock jellybean that's really stable and has a good pack of keyboard languages id love to hear it.
If you want stable, go for an ICS ROM. The devs have done amazing work on the JB ROMs but unfortunately, there are some things that simply can't be done until official drivers and kernel sources are available from Samsung.
ChronoReverse said:
If you want stable, go for an ICS ROM. The devs have done amazing work on the JB ROMs but unfortunately, there are some things that simply can't be done until official drivers and kernel sources are available from Samsung.
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Yeah I think Ill do that. Its not like my mom will know the difference between ICS and jB. Rather have it work 100% than 90% for her.
Any recommendations for a really stable ICS almost like factory stock other than PA and avatar? I tried to download the 4.0.4 tmobile stock rom but the download link is dead and when I odin the file from samfirmware or whatever it will cause it to freeze on boot. Stock ICS would be fine with me.
kettlecorn said:
I keep hearing about the flapjax rom or something, cant find it. I dont think im spelling it right. Where is it? Is it very stable? Looking for the MOST stable rom with good language keyboard support for my mom. She doesnt need all the cool features, might even go with stock but if there's a stock jellybean that's really stable and has a good pack of keyboard languages id love to hear it.
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Flappjaxxx is an awesome dev that used to be here on XDA. He is no longer here which we don't need to discuss why that is. If you use google you can most likely find his roms fairly easily. I suggest yuo stick with a stock ATT based rom is you want solid performance with out all the bells and whistles. You can find some things here in the dev section or on flapps site if you happen to find that
kettlecorn said:
YAny recommendations for a really stable ICS almost like factory stock other than PA and avatar? I tried to download the 4.0.4 tmobile stock rom but the download link is dead and when I odin the file from samfirmware or whatever it will cause it to freeze on boot. Stock ICS would be fine with me.
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Like Stock as in TouchWiz or like Stock as in AOSP?
If you mean as in Samsung Galaxy Note stock TouchWiz, then you could try Novena.
ChronoReverse said:
Like Stock as in TouchWiz or like Stock as in AOSP?
If you mean as in Samsung Galaxy Note stock TouchWiz, then you could try Novena.
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touchwiz. AOSP is going to be more prone to bugs and issues than a rom that was made by samsung for the note
You can find flapps rom on goomanager,I haven't used anything but his since mash ,best roms and kernels
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Question about stock rom

What is the most versatile stock rom that i will flash after rooting and putting a recovery? Or it depends on the custom rom to which stock rom it will require?
shadow_chaser said:
What is the most versatile stock rom that i will flash after rooting and putting a recovery? Or it depends on the custom rom to which stock rom it will require?
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Not sure if i got your question right, but there is not so many options for z5c.
Most versatile stock based custom is Kryptonian. Other one is xpower, but its more about debloating than adding mods.
Both devs have said that new version should be just around corner.
Then is of course cyanogen based roms, but unfortunately at least in my opinion not for every day use.

Stock-based rom recommended??

Hey there! I have a i9300, using currently LineageOs.
As the camera quality its important to me, I would like to go to an stock-based rom, i'm looking for something with as less bloatware as possible, with good battery life etc.
All the topics I found are quite old, so if you have any suggestions, go ahead and shoot!
Flash stock, root, and use titanium backup to freeze or remove unnecessary apps.
audit13 said:
Flash stock, root, and use titanium backup to freeze or remove unnecessary apps.
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Although valid, something I've noticed with touchwiz firmware is that if you freeze, hibernate or remove any of the 's' packages it'll bog the phone down. Stock roms are best being left as they are.
Beamed in by telepathy.
I have experimented with an s4 and s3 and haven't had issues with removing some Samsung apps. YMMV I guess.
Well, I'm looking for something like omega rom or QS-i9300
Of course I can install stock and remove crap by myself. I was looking for stock-based suggestions.
NeatROM 4.3 is pretty neat. Still my best stock based ROM.
conanDO98 said:
NeatROM 4.3 is pretty neat. Still my best stock based ROM.
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thnx for the suggestion, as I had no replyes i' m currently on Android revolution HD (it has not much free ram right after install,but works good so far) but I will try your suggestion on the future.
More suggestios are wellcome! It looks like not so much people keeps on using their s3s, and those who do, propably won't use stock...

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