Woohoo! 4G is here! Mishawaka/South Bend area! - Motorola Droid X2

Finally! And 2 days ahead of the reported date! Just in time for the Razr and Galaxy Nexus! Not to mention I have been eligible for upgrade since last week
What does this mean, and why I am stating this in the DX2 forums? Because I intend to sell my phone (as I posted before) to a deserving dev. I have a few who hit me up in my inbox already. So now it comes down to actual release dates. The moment either phone goes on pre-order I will be buying it. So to the dev's who hit me up in regards to this device, 2 questions:
1. Do you want me to send the phone in for warranty (it has some nicks and scratches around the screen), or do you want it as is? Won't make a price difference either way.
2. Do you want to make a first come first serve deposit for the phone? I am going to put a $100 price tag on it.
In order of who contacted me:
swbf2lord
Nitro
Saint Isaiah
Framework43

Kinda makes me mad. I was under the impression that 4G in our area (SB) was not at least until next year. That's why I bought the X2 instead of a 4G phone. I read an article on Broadband Reports that we were indeed getting 4G in October. Sucks now that none of our lines are eligible for an update until late 2012!
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Yea, according to what I read, it is their single biggest launch area to date. Notre Dame has had it since the start of the football season. Supposedly the tower was only supposed to be on during the game, but people as far as 20 miles away on any given day have periodically gotten the connection on their devices. It is supposed to cover South Bend, Mishawaka, Granger, Osceola, Roseland, Elkhart, Goshen, Dunlap(so I am assuming Niles, Edwardsburg, etc across the state line will get some of the bleed off).

http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2011/09/pr2011-09-20g.html
SOUTH BEND, IN — T.J. Fox, Verizon Wireless region president, today announced that the company is launching the world’s first large-scale 4G Long Term Evolution (LTE) network in South Bend, Mishawaka, Granger, Elkhart, and Goshen on October 20.
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RyanThaDude said:
Kinda makes me mad. I was under the impression that 4G in our area (SB) was not at least until next year. That's why I bought the X2 instead of a 4G phone.
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I hope they don't surprise me like this too, I got x2 for same reason, but they said no 4g in my area until 2013
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Well, hate to be the bearer of bad news... lol, but it looks like they are 3-4 months ahead of schedule on their rollouts. Which, to their credit is good considering tech companies are typically late. Atleast none of us have AT&T or Sprint who I would assume are going to be buying spectrum from Verizon soon(it only makes sense to expand faster).

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[Q] Who has tb and not in 4G area?

Curious how many ppl got the TB without 4G in your area and why? I have STRONG 4G so yea.
Jeez papi I didn't even get the poll up before you replied lol. Calm down
I do bc I know that when I travel it will pick up 4GLTE and this thing is faster then any phone I have had. Dx d2g fascinate incredible and droid are turtles compared to this
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I don't and I bought mine mainly to be future proof. At least for the near future...
I am an hour west of Cleveland, OH which has 4G. By the end of this year Toledo, OH, which I am an hour east of will also have 4G. The Verizon rep, when I bought my phone, said that 4G should hopefully be here by the time Cedar Point opens to help with the excessive amount of strain that the tourist put on their exhisting 3G network. So, let hope that good 'ol Sandusky gets some 4G.
I don't have 4G. But I go to an area that does quite a bit. Hopefully we'll all be grandfathered in for unlimited data. And this phone is a beast!
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I live in Indianapolis, we don't have 4G yet, but will by the end of the year (in preparation for next year's Super Bowl I assume).
I'm just outside Albany, NY and we are on the list for the 2011 4G rollout. As of now, I'm sitting on full 3G everywhere I go.
No 4G here but I was told we would be getting it around August, though not from a real great source. A friend of mine sent me a pic today of his showing that it was working, but only for a short time... must be testing or something. I'm in Sioux Falls, SD. At least I'm grandparented into my plan for when it does come. I love this phone, though, coming from the droid x.
I picked up the Thunderbolt mainly because its the most bad ass phone in my eyes. I'm in Reno NV, currently no 4G but there's rumors floating around that next year possibly. IMO though, my guess would be in 2013.
4g is probably a year from where I live in central california, but if your going to upgrade, mine as well get the latest and the greatest.
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samdroidx said:
No 4G here but I was told we would be getting it around August, though not from a real great source. A friend of mine sent me a pic today of his showing that it was working, but only for a short time... must be testing or something. I'm in Sioux Falls, SD. At least I'm grandparented into my plan for when it does come. I love this phone, though, coming from the droid x.
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Ah cool, I live in Sioux Falls, SD too. I watch my phone like a hawk and haven't seen 4g lte pop on yet. God I hope they enable this soon! A verizon store moron did tell me 4g is coming for us in June but I would take that with a truckload of salt.
Supposed to get 4g in Grand Rapids by the end of the year
probably not gonna have 4g for another year at least
Closest 4G is in Rochester with no plans of bringing it to my area. However the phone is a beast. That, along with being grandfathered into the unlimited data was totally worth the purchase.
Even if the phone didn't have LTE I still would really enjoy it, and since it's not in my area, it's just a bonus that I'll hopefully soon be able to enjoy.
No 4G in Central Louisiana till possibly end of summer, but I bought the phone b/c of the speed and capabilities not b/c of the network, but that will be a nice bonus when it comes out.
I am in the middle of nowhere, and it could easily be 2014 before LTE hits. I was Jonesing for new hardware but couldn't stomach the idea of a Motorola dual-core. I saw that this was going to be MUCH faster than my old Eris (running CM7 ) and I saw that team AndIRC was gonna crack this thing like an egg. So I got this on a 1 year plan. Next spring I can hopefully get some serious hackable multi-core hardware. I figure the Bolt should also retain a lot of value to help finance it's replacement...
Bought and use in a 3g only area, but my home area has 4g so I get to use it once a month when I go home. I haven't been home yet to try 4g, but I will be able to next week.
Other than some odd behavior, I think this phone is better than my incredible.
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My market was added to the recent list so hopefully summertime or a little later but I look forward to 4G, or I hope to anyways. If the distances the signal reaches I keep reading about I am optimistic it will hit my house. If not then 4G is more meh than yeh.
No 4g in my area, but I wasn't gonna get the x when this is available......plus I'm covered when 4g does come around.
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I'm in south eastern virginia and the closest 4G is Baltimore MD about 4 hours drive. Verizon is kind of sucky on this one.

Sprint at risk of bankruptcy.......

So I just came across a story that I found interesting. Sanford C. Bernstein analyst says that bankruptcy for Sprint is "a very legitimate risk".
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120319-707703.html
That's what happens when u spend a billion dollars on iphones
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Doesn't say much really...
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Perhaps eventually, but they are a long way from the total shutdown type of bankruptcy. At worst, they'll do a restructuring bankruptcy, but I don't even think it will come to that. They have made some bad decisions, but in the very important metrics of customer satisfaction and retention, they are doing quite well. A company can recover from bad technology investments (Lightsquared, ClearWire). When they start hemorrhaging customers, that's when you really have to worry.
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So I just came across a story that I found interesting. Sanford C. Bernstein analyst says that bankruptcy for Sprint is "a very legitimate risk".
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120319-707703.html
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It's LightSquared's fault... That, and putting all their eggs into the iPhone basket. But to be honest, it hasn't had a chance to bounce back from it yet.
A lot of people have been thinking about this, but no one has wanted to say it.
Sprint will get bailed out if they were ever forced to close up shop. At&t and verizon are too big to be the only consumer choices.
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Sprint will get bailed out if they were ever forced to close up shop. At&t and verizon are too big to be the only consumer choices.
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This is true. Just as the government's been helping banks.
eXplicit815 said:
It's LightSquared's fault... That, and putting all their eggs into the iPhone basket. But to be honest, it hasn't had a chance to bounce back from it yet.
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it has 0 to do with the iPhone...They already stated they were on track for meeting the iPhone goals much much sooner than the deadline. I think over a year sooner than scheduled...
the thing is the analyst is missing some key things when he went on to spout about spectrum as that is NOT a problem for sprint with clearwire and also their own 800MHz LTE with 1900LTE they will be on par with Verizon at the least bit...
The one thing that is a little concerning is the maturities of the debt due in 2015...Doesn't give NetworkVision much time to show its wings and get more customers...Though with any other piece of debt they likely will not have much trouble rolling that amount to a later date paying a lil more premium...
I've been hearing this same tune every few years about Sprint. I've been with Sprint 11 years now, and to be honest I'm considering switching carriers for the first time.
Over the past 2 years my personal experience with their customer service has extremely poor. I've considered VZW but I have to take into account data limits.
xjman said:
I've been hearing this same tune every few years about Sprint. I've been with Sprint 11 years now, and to be honest I'm considering switching carriers for the first time.
Over the past 2 years my personal experience with their customer service has extremely poor. I've considered VZW but I have to take into account data limits.
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If you've stuck around that long like I have then you might as well wait another year and see the effects of NetworkVision rollouts as they have already started and should greatly help most if not all issues like slow speeds and such...
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sgt. slaughter said:
If you've stuck around that long like I have then you might as well wait another year and see the effects of NetworkVision rollouts as they have already started and should greatly help most if not all issues like slow speeds and such...
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Well I can say that personally from my experience with the "NetworkVision" rollouts that they have done nothing in my area. They completed 1 data speed upgrade and 3 data capacity upgrades (I live 1 mile from a sprint tower) and they have done NOTHING to help voice/data services. My phone actually defaults to roaming now, so I will just wait for sprint to cancel me.
If sprint wanted to avoid this they should've began their "NetworkVision" rollout before they launched the iphone...Hell they should've done it before they launched the OG Evo 4g. They had NO business having smartphones on their dumb network. Now they are scrambling because people are saying screw it and they are paying an extra $20-$30 a month to go to verizon or at&t.
I really, really hope sprint can make it. But from what i've seen from these tower upgrades they haven't made anything better in my area.
ronartest2005 said:
Well I can say that personally from my experience with the "NetworkVision" rollouts that they have done nothing in my area. They completed 1 data speed upgrade and 3 data capacity upgrades (I live 1 mile from a sprint tower) and they have done NOTHING to help voice/data services. My phone actually defaults to roaming now, so I will just wait for sprint to cancel me.
If sprint wanted to avoid this they should've began their "NetworkVision" rollout before they launched the iphone...Hell they should've done it before they launched the OG Evo 4g. They had NO business having smartphones on their dumb network. Now they are scrambling because people are saying screw it and they are paying an extra $20-$30 a month to go to verizon or at&t.
I really, really hope sprint can make it. But from what i've seen from these tower upgrades they haven't made anything better in my area.
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Those are NOT NetworkVision rollouts that your seeing on that website showing "data capacity upgrade" and such...those are mere lil band aid patches and should not be used in reference to what networkvision rollouts are...the NV rollouts involve a complete revamp of the cabinets and backhaul that will make dramatic differences in most of the troubled areas...
To put in perspective the backhaul changes are all being re-done to fiber or microwave based and the current backhaul is using the ancient bundled T1 based...
S4GRU.com has been putting up the rough rough schedule of the cities being done so far btw...
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xjman said:
I've been hearing this same tune every few years about Sprint. I've been with Sprint 11 years now, and to be honest I'm considering switching carriers for the first time.
Over the past 2 years my personal experience with their customer service has extremely poor. I've considered VZW but I have to take into account data limits.
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not trying to be rude. just making an observation. the majority of the time i hear of people with bad things to say about sprint's customer service it's from customers that have been with sprint for roughly ten years. i've personally had no problems with sprint at all, but i've only been with them for 2 years. is sprint just not that friendly to it's long time customers?
efan3719 said:
not trying to be rude. just making an observation. the majority of the time i hear of people with bad things to say about sprint's customer service it's from customers that have been with sprint for roughly ten years. i've personally had no problems with sprint at all, but i've only been with them for 2 years. is sprint just not that friendly to it's long time customers?
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no, people just expect more then the average person which is dumb in my opinion, it's like buying a car and expecting it to fill itself up for you, but if the gas pump is crowed then you should be ahead of everyone else just because you want gas -_-, i've been with sprint for 5-6 years now and my parents have been with them for 13+ i've never seen an issue and if there was, either i took care of it or i gave sprint a call for a simple refresh, people that complain about sprint service probably complain about their drinks being too cold at a diner -_-
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Those are NOT NetworkVision rollouts that your seeing on that website showing "data capacity upgrade" and such...those are mere lil band aid patches and should not be used in reference to what networkvision rollouts are...the NV rollouts involve a complete revamp of the cabinets and backhaul that will make dramatic differences in most of the troubled areas...
To put in perspective the backhaul changes are all being re-done to fiber or microwave based and the current backhaul is using the ancient bundled T1 based...
S4GRU.com has been putting up the rough rough schedule of the cities being done so far btw...
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Ah, I got ya. I just wonder how long (or if) for that matter sprint will do that where I live. Verizon currently has LTE here and it is fast, 20mbs down. But I am not in a large enough city that I think sprint will upgrade their towers within the next couple of years here. I really hope they do. Because I really don't want to leave for verizon. But it get tougher as each day goes by.
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Ah, I got ya. I just wonder how long (or if) for that matter sprint will do that where I live. Verizon currently has LTE here and it is fast, 20mbs down. But I am not in a large enough city that I think sprint will upgrade their towers within the next couple of years here. I really hope they do. Because I really don't want to leave for verizon. But it get tougher as each day goes by.
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In my area VZW has LTE, USC is revamping all towers for LTE rollout, and Sprint still has about 100k download speeds. At the best I see 300k, it's getting old, it's been this slow for almost 2 straight years now. Unlimited....? Sure you can have all the data you can use, it's as slow as a dial up connection, but have at it,lol.
As far as the comment about Sprint meeting the iCrap expectations, yes they are meeting the expectations on selling them, but (and it was posted here somewhere) they are still losing money on the whole iCrap thing and will be for at least 2 years. Just because they're meeting the sales expectations doesn't mean it's making them money.
I was a fan of sprints until i.started consistently getting 70k down the past 15 months, hoping it would get better, hoping....hoping.....never happened. I'm willing to pay the extra dollars for the bandwidth on VZW. What good is unlimited data at a trickle? I'm out when this contracts up. I like sprint, really...but no data speed on a smartphone ain't gonna cut it.
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ronartest2005 said:
Ah, I got ya. I just wonder how long (or if) for that matter sprint will do that where I live. Verizon currently has LTE here and it is fast, 20mbs down. But I am not in a large enough city that I think sprint will upgrade their towers within the next couple of years here. I really hope they do. Because I really don't want to leave for verizon. But it get tougher as each day goes by.
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Where are ya located?
NetworkVision is going to be complete in a couple years, at least the tower upgrade and backhaul parts with most if not all being complete during next year...
They have already started up in NJ, Chicago, and a bunch others...I wouldn't pay much attention to the network.sprint.com site as the stuff there is nothing releated to the NetworkVision upgrades...
Just for an idea, those areas where you have horrid speed with great signal and its because the tower is over capacity...the backhaul change will make a huge difference.
Each T1 line is capable of about 1.5Mbps and bundles T1 lines is what's used now...microwave based backhaul is capable of over 1Gbps....each is going to microwave or fiber so that's a giant leap in capacity...
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Im sure Verison is happy...

The He** with Sprint!!!

OK, #1, yes I know the forum rules (Not to bash, keep it clean, no religious stuff............) and I have not in my years here, broke them! BUT, I feel every now and then, I should be entiled to a free one? Today is that day!!
I say f**k Sprint! I was over at SprintFeed.com and Sprint has announced the EOL (End of Life) for Photon next month! I will tell you exactly why this pisses me off!!
#1 (Yea I know #1 is above, im starting over!). I went out and got the damm Evo for $500.00 summer of 2010. Last summer, Sprint blasted the TV with the Evo 3D but only one or 2 commercials for Photon. Photon, IMO, was and is, 100 times better than3D in every way, But Sprint blasted the damm Evo. I dont need a toy, I need a bussiness phone that will assist me in getting the job done. So I pay $638.00, no contract for Photon with 4G August 2, 2011.
#2. I work in IT, I have million $$$ ideas all the time, but it takes me 6 months to a year before anything actually gets done (plan, summary, approval, check, delivery) Therefore, with the November announcement of LTE, they knew damm right well when get got our phones, many of us, me included, did not have 4G and never would have it!! So the sales was entierly a lie!!!! (And to be honest, I cannot recall a TV commercial after August but I still see crap for the toy 3D!)
#3. If end of life is next month, then Q3 ICS is more smoke getting blown up our a**es!!
#4. With this announcement, my $638.00 Photon just became a worthless paperweight! Why? How much are you willing to pay me for my Photon, knowing that if it breaks or f**k's up one week later, your SOL? Seriously? This goes for anything in life! Would you pay top dollar for a I.B.M Thinkpad you know I.B.M no longer supports? NO!!!!
#5. Why is the original Evo still supported, but we did not even get a year? How come everyone got unlocked bootloader and ROM's out the a**? What did we get? Not a damm thing!!! (The development team here worked hard, but Sprint showed no support for them at all!!!)
#6. Also on SprintFeed.com, HTC and Sprint have big announcement April 4th where it is expected they will announce the new EVO for June 10th release date. If the spec's are whats expected, I will jump ship. Whats that gonna cost me?
#7. All so on that website, Wall Street had lowered the boom on Sprint. This means 2 things. They don't have the money they claim they have and could go bankrupt. and what happens to the LTE project and will I ever see 4G?
I just think, IMO, that this is a complete slap in the face to every Photon owner!!!
End of Rant!!
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#4. With this announcement, my $638.00 Photon just became a worthless paperweight!
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Huh, that's so weird, my Photon is still working great. I hope the devs here at XDA can come up with some kind of mod that blocks the worthless paperweight update.
Its not that serious bro, its just a phone. I love my photon and there's nothing sprint can do to change that.
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Dude!!!..... I can't complain abut my Photon, the 4 months or so it has been with me has NEVER let me down one bit, to this day it is the BEST phone I have ever owned, the international capabilities which I was finally able to try on a trip to Mexico last week made me love it even more. I was able to use a Telcel Sim card and used all the features in my phone with no problems no errors no nothing.
(Actually to my surprise Telcel's 3G speeds are awesome compared to Sprint's)
But sadly every phones has an EOL and technology is improving every second..
I don't really see the point of even have a fit about it LOL
Seeing that I no longer work for Sprint I have no issue saying this. Sprint half-assed the handling of the Photon since day one. Considering Sprint's history with Moto Android phones they had no faith in Moto's product and made no real effort to support or push the Photon. This started before the phone was ever released.
Sprint had the update fix for the silent call bug over a month PRIOR to the release of the Photon. Instead of pushing the update on launch day they held off for a month before releasing the fix. So you have a new phone with a major bug that didn't get fixed til after the crucial launch month window had passed. Result, a new phone that doesn't work for enough people to kill sales.
Sprint advertising and sales training was also almost nonexistant. In many cases it was "and Moto makes phones too but who cares" kind of approach. I had setup a live WebTop display running Firefox streaming HULU in the store I worked in. Customers thought it was the Evo 3D and didn't even know the Photon even existed. The first response when told it wasn't the 3D was "Yeh but the 3D can do that too." and very rarely could you convince them otherwise.
In short, Sprint could care less if they ever sell another Moto Android phone and have treated the Photon with that mindset from the start. They can now go back to Moto and say "Look, your crappy phone doesn't sell so no Sprint for you."
Just because it will reach EOL status doesn't mean a whole lot to me. I started with the original Droid on Verizon and EOL was reached a loooong time ago on it and a small update was recently available for it! And there is still development going on for it as well. As long as we have some good devs that still care about it, EOL status is irrelevant.
oh well, fun while it lasted, i upgraded to the photon over my OG evo, loved it since day one, i recently went back to my EVO 3D, so when the ICS update comes out (as promised i hope) i'll update my photon and go back to it, but when it's completely gone, all i'll say is, i have a rare sprint phone (just like my echo) that not a lot of people have, and wait for the newest smartphone to come out
You do realize that all Wimax phones will be going EOL come about Summer when lte launches. And everybody else is right EOL just means they start to pull inventory from the stores no biggie. like the evo shift, epic, nexus, and trender i work at a store and we haven't gotten a shipment for them in 2 weeks and we are out.
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Agreed
As I'm sure MOST people who own a MoPho agree, this phone needs much more love from the dev community, I love this phone in it's natural form! I had an OG Evo 4G and modding it was the only thing I could do to keep it up and running. This phone KILLS IT out of the box! The Tegra 2 is incredibly smooth.
I really want ICS for it, but I'll have this MoPho for A LOT longer than my crap EVO.
Signed,
A faithful first time Moto owner
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Also, If this phone IS EOL soon, does that mean it WILL get unlocked? Just curious if they didn't care about a phone anymore, they would UNLOCK the bootloader for us.
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Also, If this phone IS EOL soon, does that mean it WILL get unlocked? Just curious if they didn't care about a phone anymore, they would UNLOCK the bootloader for us.
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Nope. It means no updates,support or unlock from official channels. Sprint will still repair/replace it but short of PRL and critical security updates, the phone doesn't exist to Sprint after the EOL date. I'd also expect this to kill the ICS update as well as it will not have passed Sprint's internal "QC and testing" and I do not believe Moto has authorization for a direct push.
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Nope. It means no updates,support or unlock from official channels. Sprint will still repair/replace it but short of PRL and critical security updates, the phone doesn't exist to Sprint after the EOL date. I'd also expect this to kill the ICS update as well as it will not have passed Sprint's internal "QC and testing" and I do not believe Moto has authorization for a direct push.
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I really hope that's not true - since they've officially announced the ICS update for the Photon, I would hope they keep their word. Although I've been frustrated with all the dead links throughout the forums here, I have been still very happy with the Photon vs the Evo so far, it's an amazing device.
Sprint's got me barely hanging on by halving my bill while the network upgrades supposedly happen -- but if speeds don't increase and awesome devices like this aren't supported, I'll be joining the hordes jumping ship to Verizon.
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No religious stuff? Everyone knows Jesus is the way! If ya don't l, he is!
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I hope this works out for Sprint. In two years, no iDen or WiMax networks. That should greatly cut costs.
I use to love Sprint, but now it's just like they're in the business of hooking you in for the business and then coming up with ways to increase your bill. I use to have 5 lines, all qualified for the company discount, then only 2, and now only 1. I've transferred my phone over to Google, so that moving forward I can switch between companies with minimal inconveniences. Sprint essentially has no high-end world phones....
OK, Most of you are missing the entire point! I have NO problems with my Photon. I LOVE MY PHONE!!!
Go back and read post #5 and #10 by lokifish Marz. Sprint s**t on this phone from day 1!! I said it in my OP, he confirmed it as a ex-Sprint empolyee!!!
I will tell you a funny story. August 20th 2011 my power button fell out, so I had to use my finger nail to cut it on/off. Me and 2 co-workers took it to Sprint at the Garden State Plaza on RT4 in New Jersey. Chick tells me, "I have one of the tech look at it!" No problem. This idiot comes from the back and the first thing out of his mouth, "Have you had this phone for 30 days or less?" Just like lokifish Marz said, no training and no marketing!
As for XDA Development, most of the heavy hitters have jump ship and do cleanup work here (which we are thankful!)
Now the new EVO is something to brag about, no doubt. But August 1st of 2011, This was by far the best phone available from ANY carrier, and Sprint gave it no love!
EOL would kinda suck as I was planning to keep this until March when my contract is up, then re-evaluate if I want to keep Sprint.
On the other hand, I do remember back in September the Evo 4g was on the EOL list for October. It still has not gone EOL. Then again that was a far more popular phone.
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On the other hand, I do remember back in September the Evo 4g was on the EOL list for October. It still has not gone EOL. Then again that was a far more popular phone.
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Its back on the list for "Early April". I dont get why EVO 3D is not on the list and Photon is?
Before getting the Photon, I had a Droid Eris on Verizon and I went through the same thing. Thanks to the xda devs and community, I was able to squeeze 2 years out of it. Before rooting and loading a custom rom, using the phone was a nightmare.
I guess I'm getting used to, and have the unfortunate luck, of buying the devices that receive the least support down the road. I chose Sprint, because I thought they were somehow less evil than Verizon but corporations will be corporations.
I still hope the Photon will have a long life after losing official support. I love the phone itself.
knG333 said:
Before getting the Photon, I had a Droid Eris on Verizon and I went through the same thing. Thanks to the xda devs and community, I was able to squeeze 2 years out of it. Before rooting and loading a custom rom, using the phone was a nightmare.
I guess I'm getting used to, and have the unfortunate luck, of buying the devices that receive the least support down the road. I chose Sprint, because I thought they were somehow less evil than Verizon but corporations will be corporations.
I still hope the Photon will have a long life after losing official support. I love the phone itself.
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This sounds very familiar to me, except for me it was the Palm Pre instead of the Droid Eris. I'm starting to think I'm a curse - if I like a phone, prepare for it to turn into a stepchild and let the bitterness begin. Maybe I should go buy an iPhone and see if I can kill it...
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Maybe I should go buy an iPhone and see if I can kill it...
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Go for it! haha!
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You do realize that all Wimax phones will be going EOL come about Summer when lte launches. And everybody else is right EOL just means they start to pull inventory from the stores no biggie. like the evo shift, epic, nexus, and trender i work at a store and we haven't gotten a shipment for them in 2 weeks and we are out.
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you feel the Nexus is a good upgrade from coming EVO?

Photon to get ics. Software upgrade to also have lte chipset change.

I was told by an undisclosed source from motorola that the reason the mopho isnt getting ics till late this year is because of the "wimax slash lte " change. Also was told that the phone was manufactured with 2 different radio chipsets and those who dont have the wimax lte chipset will be replaced with ones that do or be given the option to upgrade early to one. Like i said this is coming from a undisclosed source. So take it as u will until its released its just a rumor.
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I could see them doing that. My mom was offered an early upgrade due to Verizon buying out altell. Also my brother got an early upgrade 4 months after he signed a contract through either at&t or sprint or some major carrier due to technology change or contract revisions. Either way I'm pretty sure if I called sprint after they release their first LTE phone I would most likely be able to get it at least as an early upgrade and I just signed in February. I was paying a forced charge of 10 extra a month for the ability to use 4G that I don't even have in my area lol after a few phone calls to sprint I now get a credit of $10 on each bill. They can't take it off my bill but they have it set up to automatically apply each month. Sprint can be major push overs
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I could see them doing that. My mom was offered an early upgrade due to Verizon buying out altell. Also my brother got an early upgrade 4 months after he signed a contract through either at&t or sprint or some major carrier due to technology change or contract revisions. Either way I'm pretty sure if I called sprint after they release their first LTE phone I would most likely be able to get it at least as an early upgrade and I just signed in February. I was paying a forced charge of 10 extra a month for the ability to use 4G that I don't even have in my area lol after a few phone calls to sprint I now get a credit of $10 on each bill. They can't take it off my bill but they have it set up to automatically apply each month. Sprint can be major push overs
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Howd you manage the $10 credit.. its a "premium data plan" or whatever they call it, it nowhere actually calls out 4g, for mine atleast. I mean it started around time they launched their WiMax so in reality it is essentially a 4g charge but worded without actually it claiming to be that anywhere in writing. And as far as a second Photon with LTE coming im somewhat skeptical.. I guess that *might* explain the EOL announcement to the Photon we have now..? Still don't quite think that there will be a LTE Photon for Sprint though.. And im sure if you raise enough hell with Sprint that'd they'd be semi useful for once and be able to help you out with upgrading early to a LTE device once their network is up.
Well according to a few sprint employees i spoke to, when the mopho gets ics the lte update will come with it..but thats just what they say, i doubt it but i sure hope its true..and the $10 monthly fee is just because its a smart phone and uses more data "premium data" charge..
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I could see them doing that. My mom was offered an early upgrade due to Verizon buying out altell. Also my brother got an early upgrade 4 months after he signed a contract through either at&t or sprint or some major carrier due to technology change or contract revisions. Either way I'm pretty sure if I called sprint after they release their first LTE phone I would most likely be able to get it at least as an early upgrade and I just signed in February. I was paying a forced charge of 10 extra a month for the ability to use 4G that I don't even have in my area lol after a few phone calls to sprint I now get a credit of $10 on each bill. They can't take it off my bill but they have it set up to automatically apply each month. Sprint can be major push overs
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That is the ONE thing I've been trying to get, but to no avail. I did get let off contract for 11 lines and several brand new devices though, so I think I'm still coming out ahead. Cheers to you!
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Well according to a few sprint employees i spoke to, when the mopho gets ics the lte update will come with it..but thats just what they say, i doubt it but i sure hope its true..and the $10 monthly fee is just because its a smart phone and uses more data "premium data" charge..
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Lol well our current Photons have no LTE radio hardware.. So ICS (if we actually do end up getting it) won't be able to bring us LTE, UNLESS they release a whole new version of Photon with newer/different radios. We have the Beceem BCSM350-L radio in our Photons.. aka no LTE capability..
To be fair my source works for motorola and is in the hardware division so unless u opened the photon and seen it was the 350 which it is not. We will all see. And motorola has no plans im aware of of making a photon 2.
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To be fair my source works for motorola and is in the hardware division so unless u opened the photon and seen it was the 350 which it is not. We will all see. And motorola has no plans im aware of of making a photon 2.
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I haven't personally taken mine apart.. but someone has.. Here Not trying to start an argument just saying that I personally find it pretty unlikely that we will ever end up with LTE on the Photon, as sad as that truth is.. And that I have decent reasoning behind thinking that.
Here it is in Lokifish Marz "All things Mopho" post as well.
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I haven't personally taken mine apart.. but someone has.. Here Not trying to start an argument just saying that I personally find it pretty unlikely that we will ever end up with LTE on the Photon, as sad as that truth is.. And that I have decent reasoning behind thinking that.
Here it is in Lokifish Marz "All things Mopho" post as well.
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#1. Thank you for both of your post.
#2. No matter how many times it's posted and proven, the "We have LTE with software radio upgrade" comes up. kennypow3rs even have photos from FCC of stripped down Photon! This dead horse was beat to death during the Nov-Dec timeframe.
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#1. Thank you for both of your post.
#2. No matter how many times it's posted and proven, the "We have LTE with software radio upgrade" comes up. kennypow3rs even have photos from FCC of stripped down Photon! This dead horse was beat to death during the Nov-Dec timeframe.
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Yes, this has been argued over and over again throughout the past months. lets not start it again, its getting old.
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Yes, this has been argued over and over again throughout the past months. lets not start it again, its getting old.
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That's why most senior members quit responding to these threads ;-) im just bored!
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Howd you manage the $10 credit.. its a "premium data plan" or whatever they call it, it nowhere actually calls out 4g, for mine atleast. I mean it started around time they launched their WiMax so in reality it is essentially a 4g charge but worded without actually it claiming to be that anywhere in writing. And as far as a second Photon with LTE coming im somewhat skeptical.. I guess that *might* explain the EOL announcement to the Photon we have now..? Still don't quite think that there will be a LTE Photon for Sprint though.. And im sure if you raise enough hell with Sprint that'd they'd be semi useful for once and be able to help you out with upgrading early to a LTE device once their network is up.
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I just called sprint and talked to them about the photon going on EOL and simply asked sense I just signed on in February and this phone going on the EOL and them dropping wimax support if I could have an early upgrade to an LTE supported device when one is released and they placed me on hold for a few minutes and came back and said that my account was noted and I will be able to upgrade if I wanted but I would lose my 10 credit each month for the premium data if I upgraded to an LTE device
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Why I'll stay with Motorola

So, based on my lurking here, I'm going to be in a small minority on this one. I own the Electrify, have it unlocked and after running jokersax's cm10 for a while, I returned to the stock cm7 build (cybix, I believe...) cause I like the 15 hour battery life I get from it. Anyways, not the point...
My next phone will still be a Motorola. There, I said it. Why? Cause I like buying a phone from a company that's literally right next door. I know they are all made in China, but Moto's headquarters are basically 6 hours from where I live.
I've owned 3 Motorola phones now. They've all had really good radios and been stable and reliable. Granted the Electrify is my 1st smart phone. I've been in places where 3 people around me with Samsung or HTC phones have little or no signal, and my Moto is fine. It's also a good size for my hands, it fits in my palm, it fits in the car's cupholder, it's not garmungus like a lot of the new phones are becoming, but it's not iPhone small.
I like the phone, I dislike that Moto made a (sucky, yes) decision to not release any ICS/JB goodness for it, but that's how business works. They make more money by selling the masses a new phone rather than supporting the old ones. I'm not up for replacement until July of next year, but I probably won't replace my Electrify then either so long as it's still working. The specs are still pretty top-end and I suspect they still will be through 2013.
Thanks for letting me add a (hopefully) positive review on the Photon/Electrify board. It's great being able to lurk around here and learn stuff. :highfive:
I guess I'm in the minority also. This has been the best phone I've ever had, I'm unlocked, and can run whatever I want. I recommended this phone to everyone I know on sprint. It just works
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Nothing wrong with that.
Is there actual proof that the radio or antenna is actually better? If it truely does get better signal across the board. I'm on board. But I need hard evidence
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Based on my own use I think it's better than most. I get a strong signal everywhere, including the marginal-coverage areas.
Kevets said:
Based on my own use I think it's better than most. I get a strong signal everywhere, including the marginal-coverage areas.
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I liked my photon while i had it, but was VERY frustrated with the lack of support. First Android phone i've ever owned that didn't get updated to a new version of android. I can confirm the signal is a little better as my g/f now rocks my photon and i'm pimpin' a S3 I picked up off contract, but it's marginal really. Photon still has pretty good specs, but i can attest, the S3 is FAST and the big hd screen is pretty nice. Also, the thickness of the phone is shocking compared to my photon. Oh, and one of the best things about it is the unlocked bootloader out of the box. Had CWM installed and rocking a custom ROM within an hour of buying the phone. Based on the raw deal Motorola stuck us with, i most likely will not own anymore of their products. This is coming from a home with a photon and two Motorola Xoom's. Build quality is fantastic, support sucks a fat one except for the Xoom's ofcourse..
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Is there actual proof that the radio or antenna is actually better? If it truely does get better signal across the board. I'm on board. But I need hard evidence
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From my experience in selling the phone it does have one of the best radios out there. At least better than the GS2 and the most HTC devices that were comparable spec. I can't really say much for the newer devices as sprint network issues have worsened since the photon went End of life.
I just moved to Moto from iPhone (i know Im a shame to the android community), before that i had samsung and htc.
At&t has spotty service where i live, but the atrix gets service better than the other phones. Im so happy with the service i get with this phone.
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the electrify is a great phone and all. only when unlocked really. but it's done the job. i wouldn't say moto gets the best signal. my htc desire actually gets an equal to slightly better signal. so htc makes good phones to i'm testing out samsung tomorrow with the note ii. i hope it's as good as moto and htc.
i will never own another moto though. not after the update fiasco and locked bootloader situations. if i can't touch my own phone. then i don't want it. mainly why i'm moving to the note ii. so much freedom!
Moto build quality and signal quality are the stuff of legend. I don't know that hard evidence exists to prove it, though.
I live way out in the middle of nowhere in North Carolina. Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T don't provide service here. Their service is known to be spotty in the cities like Greenville, New Bern, Jacksonville, etc. Between them, if you have signal at home, generally you have US Cellular. Even with US Cellular, I have signal issues. With a Samsung or HTC, the phone has to be in the window. For the most part, so does the Motorola Electrify, but it can get service (1 bar) at the computer, in bed, or in an extreme case, the bathroom (typically a Faraday cage). So it is a little stronger. And Apple uses Samsung parts, so for the sake of argument I can say Apple=Samsung WRT signal.
Another fun anecdote (since that's all we've got). 2007. Went to visit my mother in California. A state that doesn't even know what US Cellular is. My wife and I have Kyocera KX-5 Slider Remix dumbphones. My mother says "your carrier is who now?". Anyway, we get into town, we have some Round Table (hands down the best pizza I've had), the next morning she wants to take us into the mountains to go visit my nephew. Long story. Anyway, we're out of town. East of San Francisco. There's a city after you're well out of the San Francisco metropolitan area, starts with a C, I think. We stop there for burgers and fries. Another hour, we're in the mountains, middle of nowhere. My mother decides she needs to call somebody. (Probably call ahead.) Takes out her LG flip phone, on Verizon. No Signal. My wife and I check our phones -- we both have 5 bars. She borrows my phone, the call connects, she gets great call quality, no drop, no static. To this day she thinks we have satellite phones like in that one Jurassic Park movie, that get service in the jungle. It's pretty funny. A friend of mine who has worked for Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint tells me that what US Cellular lacks in phone selection, they more than make up for in signal coverage, usually due to roaming agreements with other CDMA carriers. Since US Cellular does not carry the iPhone, I can safely say that Android goes places that iPhone cannot.
OP, you're okay with me. My wife is staying with Motorola as well, and can't understand why I hate 'em now, especially as I got my phone unlocked and running the OS I want. She only upgraded because her last phone was a bona fide piece of sh!t (Samsung Acclaim... 160MB RAM). She will probably use the Electrify until it breaks. 8 months later she has only changed the wallpaper. Unrooted, locked, running Blur Home as the launcher. I put Holo Launcher up there and she didn't like it, made me put it back, haha.
QuimaxW said:
So, based on my lurking here, I'm going to be in a small minority on this one. I own the Electrify, have it unlocked and after running jokersax's cm10 for a while, I returned to the stock cm7 build (cybix, I believe...) cause I like the 15 hour battery life I get from it. Anyways, not the point...
My next phone will still be a Motorola. There, I said it. Why? Cause I like buying a phone from a company that's literally right next door. I know they are all made in China, but Moto's headquarters are basically 6 hours from where I live.
I've owned 3 Motorola phones now. They've all had really good radios and been stable and reliable. Granted the Electrify is my 1st smart phone. I've been in places where 3 people around me with Samsung or HTC phones have little or no signal, and my Moto is fine. It's also a good size for my hands, it fits in my palm, it fits in the car's cupholder, it's not garmungus like a lot of the new phones are becoming, but it's not iPhone small.
I like the phone, I dislike that Moto made a (sucky, yes) decision to not release any ICS/JB goodness for it, but that's how business works. They make more money by selling the masses a new phone rather than supporting the old ones. I'm not up for replacement until July of next year, but I probably won't replace my Electrify then either so long as it's still working. The specs are still pretty top-end and I suspect they still will be through 2013.
Thanks for letting me add a (hopefully) positive review on the Photon/Electrify board. It's great being able to lurk around here and learn stuff. :highfive:
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You buy from a company cause its, 6 hours away? They still don't care about updating your phone.
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There's nothing wrong with staying with Motorola if that's what you like. I'm on my fifth Photon. I had the random reboot issue. Not updating our phones was the final straw with me. Going to Verizon for the galaxy note 2 when it drops.
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On GSM signal strength, my Sony Ericsson Naite is much better than Photon. Call drops are frequent on Photon. On 100$ Naite you can even make GSM video calls where all Androids and Iphones fails.
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Dark Reality said:
Moto build quality and signal quality are the stuff of legend. I don't know that hard evidence exists to prove it, though.
I live way out in the middle of nowhere in North Carolina. Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T don't provide service here. Their service is known to be spotty in the cities like Greenville, New Bern, Jacksonville, etc. Between them, if you have signal at home, generally you have US Cellular. Even with US Cellular, I have signal issues. With a Samsung or HTC, the phone has to be in the window. For the most part, so does the Motorola Electrify, but it can get service (1 bar) at the computer, in bed, or in an extreme case, the bathroom (typically a Faraday cage). So it is a little stronger. And Apple uses Samsung parts, so for the sake of argument I can say Apple=Samsung WRT signal.
Another fun anecdote (since that's all we've got). 2007. Went to visit my mother in California. A state that doesn't even know what US Cellular is. My wife and I have Kyocera KX-5 Slider Remix dumbphones. My mother says "your carrier is who now?". Anyway, we get into town, we have some Round Table (hands down the best pizza I've had), the next morning she wants to take us into the mountains to go visit my nephew. Long story. Anyway, we're out of town. East of San Francisco. There's a city after you're well out of the San Francisco metropolitan area, starts with a C, I think. We stop there for burgers and fries. Another hour, we're in the mountains, middle of nowhere. My mother decides she needs to call somebody. (Probably call ahead.) Takes out her LG flip phone, on Verizon. No Signal. My wife and I check our phones -- we both have 5 bars. She borrows my phone, the call connects, she gets great call quality, no drop, no static. To this day she thinks we have satellite phones like in that one Jurassic Park movie, that get service in the jungle. It's pretty funny. A friend of mine who has worked for Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint tells me that what US Cellular lacks in phone selection, they more than make up for in signal coverage, usually due to roaming agreements with other CDMA carriers. Since US Cellular does not carry the iPhone, I can safely say that Android goes places that iPhone cannot.
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you made that up, there is no such thing as good pizza west of Chicago
My unlocked Electrify has been a wonderful phone for me and I will keep it for a long while. That doesn't mean I will buy another Motorola though. Me and Motorola are over forever. I had the Desire (upgraded to 2.2) and the Mesmerize (upgraded to 2.2 then 2.3) before and I should have stuck with Samsung. I now use the Electrify and the Galaxy S3. My S3 has already received 2 updates and Jellybean is coming. Samsung for life.
I believe management of Motorola Mobility was screwed up since the takeover; probably lack of leadership and no clarity whatsoever from anyone at the top..
The recent transfer of Soni from Google shows that Google has decided to get serious about MM.
In terms of devices, they have started by cleaning house. EOL most phones, free up labor to concentrate on current & newer devices and creating the BL unlock program.
MM is trying to get back on track.
But for me, its useless; too little, too late.
Next device will definitely not be from Motorola.
Most likely the Note II (not that Samsung is friendly to developers either); but its just a beast of a phone.
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There's nothing wrong with staying with Motorola if that's what you like. I'm on my fifth Photon. I had the random reboot issue. Not updating our phones was the final straw with me. Going to Verizon for the galaxy note 2 when it drops.
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Slighter said:
you made that up, there is no such thing as good pizza west of Chicago
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Yeah, go on telling yourself that. Northern California can keep its pizza secret.
I'm actually a big fan of both Chicago deep dish and Brooklyn wide slices. Round Table is nothing like either of them. On one hand they're just a fancy Pizza Hut or Dominoes, but on the other, they use top quality ingredients and have great recipes that justify them costing 2-3 times more than them.
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Motorola will steal your pizza money.
hirent said:
I believe management of Motorola Mobility was screwed up since the takeover; probably lack of leadership and no clarity whatsoever from anyone at the top..
The recent transfer of Soni from Google shows that Google has decided to get serious about MM.
In terms of devices, they have started by cleaning house. EOL most phones, free up labor to concentrate on current & newer devices and creating the BL unlock program.
MM is trying to get back on track...
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I'm hoping they have their house in order by the time I decide to update. If they don't by then, perhaps I'll start looking elsewhere.
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