If so how?
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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-thunderbolt/142918-thunderbolt-metro-pcs.html
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If so how?
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Don't do it. You'll regret it. I did this with my Sprint EVO 4G and the data is so slow and with high latency that it is basically unusable. The voice call quality is also terrible. With metropcs you will only connect at 1x speed (2G). The other networks are not compatible (3G and 4G).
I'm running gingerbread on m Evo on metropcs... I have 3g, the evo is awesome on metro. Here is what I recommend; root, delete bloatware and add updated prl. The evo is flawless on metro.
I decided to try the Thunderbolt on metro pcs...it is a work in progress. After getting 3 "it can't be done," found a place that made some progress. I have text and talk on metro. Now if I remove the sim card, web works- no 3g. The person whom is working on it, will give it another try in a few days. Will report if it works...
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Update: still no 3G or able to sent out pic messages...but everything else works great...
Will never work right because,,,,
I do not post a lot unless I see somthing that touches my experience, but this does. I am a system engineer (contractor) and work on all of the carrier's systems, just finished up 4.5 years ay VZW and now on a short one for Metro. The problems You will have are not worth it because consistant results will vary. Sprint uses 1.9 ghz for voice and 4g is Wi-Max, so EVO will have problem with 4g and maybe voice because Metro uses 2.1 ghz AWS in some markets and 1.9 in others and their 4g is LTE so it is a crap shoot at best and all will work nowhere and none in some places. The same is said for VZW devices as they use 850 and 1.9 for voice and EVDO and 700 for 4g LTE. If you just want to play with it ok, but expect no reliable functionallity as if You were to use a branded device for Your carrier.
Like I posted previously, on my HTC Evo- it is fully flashed (web 3g only, mms, gps, text and talk). Running Gingerbread and all features working (minus LTE). There was no issue with voice whats so ever. Never had a dropped call. My evo has reliable 3g in my market. Did you add the latest prl? I also bought my wife an Evo and she loves it. All features working- on Gingerbread with 3g speeds.
Now I have a thunderbolt flashed to metro pcs (web 2g only, no mms, gps, text and talk). But will eventually soon have it on 3g. Hopefully mms as well. There are some also reporting having the Thunderbolt fully flashed with 3g and mms on cricket...so it is all matter of time. Voice sounds very clear.
I highly recommend the HTC Evo on metro. The Thunderbolt still needs more time until someone gets it going.
When can I expect the thunderbolt to be flashable I really need to asap
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I flashed my Thunderbolt onto MetroPCS, and I can confirm that SMS, Calling and Internet Works (Only 1X here in Dallas)
Only thing I need is MMS working. It's difficult. I tried everything from changing the APNs to using Go SMS for MMS. Nothing works.
go to whiterabbit for the mms fix, its been a while since i touched a metro phone.
the key thing should be finding a way to get the 4g working, since it is an lte phone.
i have a few ideas if any one is interested
I hate Verizon so much for the BS they pulled on us with the Tbolt and abandonware.
I'm looking at dumping VZW and going back to TMobile on a contract-free, monthly discount plan.
EDIT: Nevermind, I wasn't thinking. Of course VZW is CDMA and Tmobile is GSM.
The thunderbolt can be flashed to different CDMA networks. The only problem is that you will only get 3g. The LTE frequency that Verizon has is only usable by a Verizon phone so it is locked there.
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The thunderbolt can be flashed to different CDMA networks. The only problem is that you will only get 3g. The LTE frequency that Verizon has is only usable by a Verizon phone so it is locked there.
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Wait I thought people were saying that 3G doesn't work on metro and only 1x worked?
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Wait I thought people were saying that 3G doesn't work on metro and only 1x worked?
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I don't know what kind of network metro has. If its CDMA it should be able to get 3g but its possible that their frequency is out of the thunderbolts range.
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Hi guys, I am looking into getting an upgrade soon from my Droid eris and was wondering if the thunderbolt will work in areas only with 3G coverage and not 4G coverage as it is not available in my area. Thanks.
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Hi guys, I am looking into getting an upgrade soon from my Droid eris and was wondering if the thunderbolt will work in areas only with 3G coverage and not 4G coverage as it is not available in my area. Thanks.
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You have nothing to fear about getting the Tbolt because it'll work just fine. Verizon doesn't have 4G where I live at (Greensboro, NC) currently but I'm getting it (preordered it at Best Buy) because I like having a signal (switching to Verizon) and the city that I live in will be the next batch of cities that they fallout 4G LTE to.
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Yes, the thunderbolt will work in 3g or 4g coverage....
The only thing that wont work is the advertised voice and data at the same time as you need 4G (i think voice uses 3G and data 4G or some silly techy thing like that).
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The only thing that wont work is the advertised voice and data at the same time as you need 4G (i think voice uses 3G and data 4G or some silly techy thing like that).
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http://www.google.com/m/url?ei=BHBY...kQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNEBwnE762OMq0NAbBCw6mfV1Nju0g
According the page at the link above and many other pages, Verizon is enabling simultaneous voice and data over CMDA.
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Ok, thanks.
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http://www.google.com/m/url?ei=BHBY...kQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNEBwnE762OMq0NAbBCw6mfV1Nju0g
According the page at the link above and many other pages, Verizon is enabling simultaneous voice and data over CMDA.
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Not that I'm an expert, but Verizon only can enable it under 4G coverage areas. They can do it, I assume, because they stream data over 4G and voice over 1x/3G or something in that nature. I'd post my link references, but I'm too lazy to look for them. However, I think the Wirefly unboxing guy mentioned that too.
So, I know CDMA shouldn't support this.. but I have it. Huh?
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The Rezound and Tbolt support it
Yep rezound has svdo so it works
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Yes, kind of cool. I was using it the otherday while on speakerphone .
The 3G the thunderbolt and rezound use is eHRPD which is what allows it
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Amazing we lived without it so long eh? LOL
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The 3G the thunderbolt and rezound use is eHRPD which is what allows it
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So does it only work on 3g or also on 4g? If you're in an area with good 4g would you have to go through settings while on phone to turn off LTE to then use the 3g?
Whether in 3g or 4g, the Rezound and Thunderbolt can do both voice and data at the same time. Other 4g devices must be connected to 4g to do it.
Can anybody confirm if wifi tether continues to push data when talking and in a 3g zone.
I was using Verizon's tethering the other day and pushed an email through while on the phone. Thats why I came looking for this thread. Holy crap this is the happiest day of my life!!!
So, yes, I can confirm that tethering continues in 3g while on the phone.
Why is this not listed as front page news? Or one of the phone's top benefits?
That explains why I was getting IM's in Facebook while I was on the phone and 4G is turned off. Hah.. Good phone. thanks all. Suck it iphone! lol
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Can anybody confirm if wifi tether continues to push data when talking and in a 3g zone.
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Just confirmed WiFi Tether (rooted) works while talking at the same time, in 3G.
Noticed last night that one of my game asset downloads made significant progress while I was on a long call. Wondered why that was. Glad to hear that's a feature we got with our new toys.
gotta love it!
i <3 Rezound
We have dual CDMA antennas, one is 1x and 3G the other is 3G and 4G LTE
I got my Evo LTE in and wanted to know if it is capable of being flashed to work on verizon. Family member has a verizon account and I wanted to get my phone (EVO LTE) added to their account.
I saw a video on youtube showing it was flashed to verizon prepaid but I wanted to do it for post paid. Also that video was a sales ad and not a how to. Is this even possible since its a new phone?
Most likely yes but I doubt if LTE works. This phone is currently flashable to cricket, metro PCs, and boost mobile.
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dont need it to work on lte. 3g evdo is fine. i can get 2mbps on that and thats more than enough for now.
I wasnt able to find the software on here though. anyone know where? I google but didnt find anything.
I can get you the names of the software I used to flash mine to cricket. Your gonna need a Verizon prl.
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wow, that would be awesome
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wow, that would be awesome
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I'll post them when I get home
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I don't know about Verizon contract but prepaid is highly possible. It's been done the og 4g and 3d.
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Ya its technically compatible, if you can jump through the hoops regarding their ESN datanase. However, LTE will NOT wotk, there's no need to guess. This phone is compatible with 1900MHz LTE, Verizon uses 700MHz (one of the reasons it achieves such great penetration).
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(one of the reasons it achieves such great penetration).
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This made me giggle a little bit. Thanks for the lawlz.
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is the link on xda? I havent been able to locate it
anyone?
I got it working but data is not stable. it will drop off every so often. anyone else have an update?
If I have a Verizon phone that I used as the donor, pull NV items 464-466 and 1192-1194 then save the nam if I have workshop 3.x.x if not use qpst
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You are going to have to write the nam first then the NV items
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i did all that but its seems to be working with fast data speeds just evry few minutes the data drops an reconnects. Its annoying and i have a good signal and i know its not the 3g coverage cuz i used an evo 3d and galaxy s2 with no problems just having issues with the lte
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i did all that but its seems to be working with fast data speeds just evry few minutes the data drops an reconnects. Its annoying and i have a good signal and i know its not the 3g coverage cuz i used an evo 3d and galaxy s2 with no problems just having issues with the lte
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would you be able to help me out? I dont have a donor phone. would this require just a verizon donor phone? would I be able to use a used donor phone? One thats already activated on an actual account (fascinate).
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would you be able to help me out? I dont have a donor phone. would this require just a verizon donor phone? would I be able to use a used donor phone? One thats already activated on an actual account (fascinate).
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Sure if you want 3g speeds then yes you need a Verizon donor like the fascinate. Plus you need a cheap Verizon prepaid phone. One that's not activated yet. You can a fascinate that's currently active just have to back up its settings so you can restore it when your finished with it. But the prepaid phone needs not be activated
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Sure if you want 3g speeds then yes you need a Verizon donor like the fascinate. Plus you need a cheap Verizon prepaid phone. One that's not activated yet. You can a fascinate that's currently active just have to back up its settings so you can restore it when your finished with it. But the prepaid phone needs not be activated
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Do you have any more information about how I can go about doing this?
It's is possible it would require a reprogramming of the DSP. This has NEVER been done other than MTF.
If someone can obtain a similar phone with the SAME chipset on Verizon it could be cloned.
Don't hold you breath, but I think all LTE chipsets are capable of the entire spectrum meaning it's software.
Any word on this?
I'm also looking to switch to Verizon and I don't like any of the phones in Verizons line up
Would Verizon be able to do this for me or is this something that I have to do
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i wanted to connect my evo lte to metro i live in Miami and i was wondering how to go about this, do i take it to a store with metro flash? do i do it myself? is it safer to take it to metro what if they mess up and brick my phone is that possible? if i do take it do i need to take a donor phone (i have a samsung free form) im not really very tech savy doe. has anyone done this yet if so how and how is it going it sms and calling and mms and internet working what speeds do you get 1x or 3g please let me know
I heard metro wasn't flashing.phones any more :/
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My friend is on cricket WY his og evo he just flash the cricket radio, he gets 3g speed txt but can't get mms
I don't think its hard if u have the radios but I can be wrong just my 2 cents
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I heard metro wasn't flashing.phones any more :/
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i heard this too but their website still has metroflash even if i can go to them is it possible
easiest way to pay someone to add the MEID/ESN to their network for you, then tool around in QPST to program the settings and PRL you'll need to be on their network.
You won't get LTE/4G without a SIM, I'm not sure if that's even possible for non-Metro phones. Should be though...
I had someone flash mine to metro and I don't know how they did it, but I'm assuming he changed the MEID/ESN... Anyways, here are my 3G speeds in Sacramento
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I had someone flash mine to metro and I don't know how they did it, but I'm assuming he changed the MEID/ESN... Anyways, here are my 3G speeds in Sacramento
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im in miami idc about lte i just wanted to know if its possible and if it works how are the 3g speeds? decent?
Its possible and the picture shows the 3G speeds in Sacramento, dunno how it'll be in Miami
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I'll try and keep this from turning into a book.
Basically I have a HTC Thunderbolt right now. It is being replaced under the extended warranty that I have with Verizon. Since they don't have any more T-bolts they are sending me a HTC Incredible 4G under my total equipment protection policy.
I have already ordered a Nexus 4 (being delivered Monday) and will be going to T-Mobile with that eventually bringing my wife over as well when her contract is up. The only reason I did the warranty claim was because my T-bolt was dead and I might as well get a free phone out of them before dropping them since my contract is up and such. That way rather than have a 1.5 year old dead T-bolt that is good for nothing but the trash, I would have a functioning phone which I could sell. Make sense so far?
So my initial thought was that I would sell the phone take the cash to recoup some of my cost of the N4 or use it toward buying my wife's new phone on the T-Mobile network. Then I saw something about the Incredible 4G being compatible with a GSM network and that if I modify the APN that I might be able to get it on T-Mobile with HSPA+. If that is the case I will just keep the phone and have a brand new phone for free for my wife rather than sell this one and buy a different one. When they ship out the new phone it will come with a Verizon SIM that I can use to get it on their network, my account is still active with them so I can call them and get and try and get an unlock code if I need one of those before I cancel my account and I can get any updates that may be out there for the phone.
Of course if this won't work I would rather sell the phone as basically a new phone, well it might be a refurb but I don't know that for sure because they said they had to send me a complete kit because I don't have a battery and battery cover that would fit since I have a T-bolt now. Though they may have complete phones as refurbs.
So if it will work, what will I need to do before I cancel my plan? Though there was that new law that went into effect the other day that makes it illegal to unlock a phone.. But if I let Verizon do it I would imagine it isn't an issue.
Phone is factory unlocked I'm using on gsm, if you are on android 4.0.4 you are unlocked already and just need to set up apn
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Phone is factory unlocked I'm using on gsm, if you are on android 4.0.4 you are unlocked already and just need to set up apn
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Thanks. I saw some posts from a while back that hinted at that but it mentions an upcoming update which may change some things. To be safe I will test it with my new T-Mobile SIM when I get that. The Nexus 4 also uses the micro SIM.
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I have this phone and have a net 10 sim card. Tried dozens of APN combo's but all I get is edge service. Is this all I can get? Any help would be great people!
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I have this phone and have a net 10 sim card. Tried dozens of APN combo's but all I get is edge service. Is this all I can get? Any help would be great people!
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That's because 3g bands of that network aren't compatible, however if you flash cm10 you'll get more bands unlocked
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I'm on cyanogen 10.1. I can't seek to change the band. I dialed #*#*4636*#*# and get The menu. It let's me change my preferred network "gsm,lte,CDMA, etc. I'm using a net 10 sim. Anyone know how to get faster internet?
I know what AINT working!
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Is there a differentmenu? Maybe a different sim is the answer. Help please! I know there is a solution out here!
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I'm on cyanogen 10.1. I can't seek to change the band. I dialed #*#*4636*#*# and get The menu. It let's me change my preferred network "gsm,lte,CDMA, etc. I'm using a net 10 sim. Anyone know how to get faster internet?
I know what AINT working!
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Is there a differentmenu? Maybe a different sim is the answer. Help please! I know there is a solution out here!
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Press menú and select bands
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I tried that. Here goes some different steps I took:
I started with cyyanogen last nightly build.
Tried switching all the different settings in the hidden men u (gsm, CDMA only prl) etc. Changed the bands from automatic to to aus2. No good except auto and USA. 2g
Did this on viper and got the options 800mhz and 1900 MHz. No good on 1900. 800mhz 2g. (E)
Used the very alpha miui ROM from the general section and got two different radio strength bars. One was 1x and the one above it (weird right) was 3g. Had signal on the 1x but couldn't use the phone right away. Had no service on the 3g (although it started out with 3bars and slowly went to 0 and stayed) changed the APN to tfdata. Got phone but no data. Had to put the phone back onto gsm only to get data. Which gavee just the one signal bar.
I'm trying here folks!!!!
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I tried that. Here goes some different steps I took:
I started with cyyanogen last nightly build.
Tried switching all the different settings in the hidden men u (gsm, CDMA only prl) etc. Changed the bands from automatic to to aus2. No good except auto and USA. 2g
Did this on viper and got the options 800mhz and 1900 MHz. No good on 1900. 800mhz 2g. (E)
Used the very alpha miui ROM from the general section and got two different radio strength bars. One was 1x and the one above it (weird right) was 3g. Had signal on the 1x but couldn't use the phone right away. Had no service on the 3g (although it started out with 3bars and slowly went to 0 and stayed) changed the APN to tfdata. Got phone but no data. Had to put the phone back onto gsm only to get data. Which gavee just the one signal bar.
I'm trying here folks!!!!
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I found the 3g bands for your network are 850 and 1900 however looks like you live on a non 3g area, you just needed to Google it
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I have been googling it for 3 days. I'm pretty sure I should get service here. Any coverage map says I'm right in the middle of the good zone. At&t, sprint, Tmobile, Verizon, virginmobile, all confirmed get signal and data here. I have been finding it a little difficult to find a lot on the radio bands but 1900 got no service here at all.
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I have been googling it for 3 days. I'm pretty sure I should get service here. Any coverage map says I'm right in the middle of the good zone. At&t, sprint, Tmobile, Verizon, virginmobile, all confirmed get signal and data here. I have been finding it a little difficult to find a lot on the radio bands but 1900 got no service here at all.
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Strange, our phone got 850 and 1900 bands at stock, and you only get 2g, have you ever got a h, also set bands in automatic and wcdma only, then search for networks manually, best way to know what carriers will work
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Gotcha.
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Hmmmmm, I never tried to use it with this sim in it stock. No no h. Just the e (sometimes g!) IMA ruu it right quick. I saw something on here bout stock but never really paid it any attention.
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g means 3g
Nah. g means 1g. Analog.
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Nah. g means 1g. Analog.
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not in this case, you said you were not using your phone in stock, theres a bug where the 3g symbol got changed to g for gsm users, i read about it, statusbar theming on htc devices caused the h symbol to be swaped to g symbol, sorry about not being clear on last post
No. The g is definitely 1g. 5-15 KB a sec. All the symbols work I think because when I had Verizon on the same rom it showed the 1x, 3g, lte, icons, depending upon where I was. Usually lte or 3g. I'm going to get some go phone sims in a week or whenever they come in. The sim cards are cheap so I can change them out no prob. I just have ran out of $350 a month for phone service. I can almost deal with it Cuz its slow but very stout signal. Never dropped a download yet. I just don't like having to set up all my DL to run while I sleep. I'm used to lte ya dig!
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Hi all
any way to put 850 band on htc incredible 4g?
i only see 800 - 1900 and japan bands 800 - 2000
You have to use a difderent sim card. There are people on here who know what oones tp get but they dont really like to. AT&T is supposed to work. Im not sure. You cannot put another frequency antenna on this phone without taking it apart and using a soldering iron. (Good luck!)
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No. The g is definitely 1g. 5-15 KB a sec. All the symbols work I think because when I had Verizon on the same rom it showed the 1x, 3g, lte, icons, depending upon where I was. Usually lte or 3g. I'm going to get some go phone sims in a week or whenever they come in. The sim cards are cheap so I can change them out no prob. I just have ran out of $350 a month for phone service. I can almost deal with it Cuz its slow but very stout signal. Never dropped a download yet. I just don't like having to set up all my DL to run while I sleep. I'm used to lte ya dig!
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you are arguing with a very experienced person here. him and i both know a thing or two about phones and i must say, if he's sure its a bug, then it is. I am inclined to believe him too because we all know that HTC programmed this phone for a specific service initially, and they were not counting on it ever going outside the VZW network. That being said, there is no way for the phone to tell what network its on. Case and point... i just manually flashed my phone to the MetroPCS PRL and it still says Verizon Wireless... The network speed i get will not be shown as LTE even though i have it, because it only ever used GSM for LTE(which is partially GSM-based technology), not voice and data. So, on the stock rom, the phone is and will be "confused". CM10.1 works great and DOES know the difference. You will have best results by being s-off as i am.