I got my Evo LTE in and wanted to know if it is capable of being flashed to work on verizon. Family member has a verizon account and I wanted to get my phone (EVO LTE) added to their account.
I saw a video on youtube showing it was flashed to verizon prepaid but I wanted to do it for post paid. Also that video was a sales ad and not a how to. Is this even possible since its a new phone?
Most likely yes but I doubt if LTE works. This phone is currently flashable to cricket, metro PCs, and boost mobile.
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dont need it to work on lte. 3g evdo is fine. i can get 2mbps on that and thats more than enough for now.
I wasnt able to find the software on here though. anyone know where? I google but didnt find anything.
I can get you the names of the software I used to flash mine to cricket. Your gonna need a Verizon prl.
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wow, that would be awesome
giantsali said:
wow, that would be awesome
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I'll post them when I get home
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I don't know about Verizon contract but prepaid is highly possible. It's been done the og 4g and 3d.
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Ya its technically compatible, if you can jump through the hoops regarding their ESN datanase. However, LTE will NOT wotk, there's no need to guess. This phone is compatible with 1900MHz LTE, Verizon uses 700MHz (one of the reasons it achieves such great penetration).
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(one of the reasons it achieves such great penetration).
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This made me giggle a little bit. Thanks for the lawlz.
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is the link on xda? I havent been able to locate it
anyone?
I got it working but data is not stable. it will drop off every so often. anyone else have an update?
If I have a Verizon phone that I used as the donor, pull NV items 464-466 and 1192-1194 then save the nam if I have workshop 3.x.x if not use qpst
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You are going to have to write the nam first then the NV items
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i did all that but its seems to be working with fast data speeds just evry few minutes the data drops an reconnects. Its annoying and i have a good signal and i know its not the 3g coverage cuz i used an evo 3d and galaxy s2 with no problems just having issues with the lte
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i did all that but its seems to be working with fast data speeds just evry few minutes the data drops an reconnects. Its annoying and i have a good signal and i know its not the 3g coverage cuz i used an evo 3d and galaxy s2 with no problems just having issues with the lte
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would you be able to help me out? I dont have a donor phone. would this require just a verizon donor phone? would I be able to use a used donor phone? One thats already activated on an actual account (fascinate).
giantsali said:
would you be able to help me out? I dont have a donor phone. would this require just a verizon donor phone? would I be able to use a used donor phone? One thats already activated on an actual account (fascinate).
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Sure if you want 3g speeds then yes you need a Verizon donor like the fascinate. Plus you need a cheap Verizon prepaid phone. One that's not activated yet. You can a fascinate that's currently active just have to back up its settings so you can restore it when your finished with it. But the prepaid phone needs not be activated
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Sure if you want 3g speeds then yes you need a Verizon donor like the fascinate. Plus you need a cheap Verizon prepaid phone. One that's not activated yet. You can a fascinate that's currently active just have to back up its settings so you can restore it when your finished with it. But the prepaid phone needs not be activated
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Do you have any more information about how I can go about doing this?
It's is possible it would require a reprogramming of the DSP. This has NEVER been done other than MTF.
If someone can obtain a similar phone with the SAME chipset on Verizon it could be cloned.
Don't hold you breath, but I think all LTE chipsets are capable of the entire spectrum meaning it's software.
Any word on this?
I'm also looking to switch to Verizon and I don't like any of the phones in Verizons line up
Would Verizon be able to do this for me or is this something that I have to do
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I've tried searching but haven't quite got a concrete answer but is it possible to flash the 3D to Verizon?
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I've tried searching but haven't quite got a concrete answer but is it possible to flash the 3D to Verizon?
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As far as I know not the Sprint Version as far as the gsm Evo 3d I don't know. The radio's don't work and I don't think even if they did Verizon would allow it like the little guys do (coughs boost cough) Even so the Boost network is Sprint's that they pay to use. I do know that Verizon PRL works on our phone but it counts as roaming and sprint will give you the boot for using it too much. I only use it when I visit my father as it's the only way I can get a signal and use it SPARINGLY until the wife and I drive home.
No, you can not.
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I've tried searching but haven't quite got a concrete answer but is it possible to flash the 3D to Verizon?
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I think technically speaking, the CDMA EVO 3D will operate on Verizon's 3G frequencies. WiMAX will not work through a Verizon account.
In order to get the device to operate mainly on Verizon and be registered to a Verizon account would be another story and process .. not sure Verizon would support or faciliate this process, let alone allow.
Hope that helps!
Thanks for the responses. Looks like I will jus get a new phone lol =)
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No worries, if you're getting a new phone w/ Verizon I'd say sell your Evo3D for about 250-300 on ebay/craigslist and then wait for the Galaxy Nexus.
Or the Rezound.
Or the RAZR.
Some nice phones are comin' out on VZW this coming quarter...
AND they just updated their data tier plans; doubled every plan's data for the same amount of moolah.
YES ive used the search function
any way to get the evo 4g lte to work on boost, virgin, or (metro pcs as someone else suggested?) no im not suggestion meid shenanniganz which is against the rules. but is there any possibru way to get this phone working on any of those? (and if so, i assume that the lte portion would not work)
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YES ive used the search function
any way to get the evo 4g lte to work on boost, virgin, or (metro pcs as someone else suggested?) no im not suggestion meid shenanniganz which is against the rules. but is there any possibru way to get this phone working on any of those? (and if so, i assume that the lte portion would not work)
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Of course, I myself am currently flashed to Boost with the device. They flash easily to other carriers the same as previous htc phones. Yes the LTE won't work. Metropcs has LTE and although they are both cdma they use different frequencies and airwaves for LTE so you'd have to settle for 3G at least for the time being.
does it flash easily or do you have to do bad juju with the numbers?
It's pretty easy just search for EVO 4g LTE boostmobile. I recommend to flash to Verizon prepaid
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zar420 said:
It's pretty easy just search for EVO 4g LTE boostmobile. I recommend to flash to Verizon prepaid
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Yep...Verizon prepaid is better in my opinion also.
Or cricket haha
--I bet My-UI is better than yours!--
Has anyone flashed a HTC EVO 4G LTE ON metroPCS with everything working?
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Bump. I may be losing my contract soon so this is a good question for me too.
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I have done it to page plus... It's a Verizonprepaid service with good rates. They are the only prepaid that I know of that doesn't require a
donor phone as they will add your sprint esn to their database. No activation charges so its free to try. Can whip up a guide if anyone is interested
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I have done it to page plus... It's a Verizonprepaid service with good rates. They are the only prepaid that I know of that doesn't require a
donor phone as they will add your sprint esn to their database. No activation charges so its free to try. Can whip up a guide if anyone is interested
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**raises hand**
I'm interested.
I'm in
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I don't see why it wouldn't work with metro pcs. It's been fully flashed to cricket also.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1838606
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1838606
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? pageplus is not the same thing as metropcs
I just flashed mine to metropcs the other day. Its really easy
Yea I have mine on cricket for the moment, I'm sure you can flash it on metro, page, boost, Verizon, whatever floats your boat.
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I just flashed mine to metropcs the other day. Its really easy
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does 4g work?
knotcw said:
does 4g work?
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Nope 4g doesn't work. Only 1x and 3g (3g only works on some areas not all)
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I just flashed mine to metropcs the other day. Its really easy
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How did you do that? Because I'm looking to switch to metro as well.
I have mine flashed to boost, I've had every evo I've ever had flashed to boost, I'm kinda getting tired of my evo lte thinking bout the S3 or note2 and they can be flashed to boost too, the have to be sprint phones tho
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Siya Nová said:
Yea I have mine on cricket for the moment, I'm sure you can flash it on metro, page, boost, Verizon, whatever floats your boat.
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Can you tell me how to flash. Looking for a guide
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I have done it to page plus... It's a Verizonprepaid service with good rates. They are the only prepaid that I know of that doesn't require a
donor phone as they will add your sprint esn to their database. No activation charges so its free to try. Can whip up a guide if anyone is interested
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does 4g work on this Verizon prepaid service?
chivasjose09 said:
I just flashed mine to metropcs the other day. Its really easy
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hi i have flashed mine to metropcs but my picture message dont work have you got them working please help if you can
i want to flash my LTE to a diff company but it seems like every person i see that flashes there phone to boost.. metro.. pre paid verizon.. has something that dont work.. some there data dont work.. some cant make calls but data works.. some everything works but pic messages.. does anyone have everything working correctly 3g data.. calls.. texts.. pic messages ? if so what is it flashed too.. cause im am sick of paying so much.. i used to pay 105$ just one line me.. then i got my pops on my plan he has an iphone and now my bill is around 185$ thats with tax but still i thought it would be cheapier adding another line.. so i have been thinking about flashing my evo over but only if i can get everything working.. thanks
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i want to flash my LTE to a diff company but it seems like every person i see that flashes there phone to boost.. metro.. pre paid verizon.. has something that dont work.. some there data dont work.. some cant make calls but data works.. some everything works but pic messages.. does anyone have everything working correctly 3g data.. calls.. texts.. pic messages ? if so what is it flashed too.. cause im am sick of paying so much.. i used to pay 105$ just one line me.. then i got my pops on my plan he has an iphone and now my bill is around 185$ thats with tax but still i thought it would be cheapier adding another line.. so i have been thinking about flashing my evo over but only if i can get everything working.. thanks
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105 WTF. That's alot. Just wanna suggest tmobile who either has an truly unlimited 4g data plan for 70 or it's coming out soon or verizon prepaid.
I'm on verizon prepaid and have 3g calls texts and pic messages working.
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does 4g work on this Verizon prepaid service?
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does 4g work on this Verizon prepaid service?
If I wanted to take my ELTE and switch to Verizon's pre-paid plan do kneed to do anything special with the phone? I want to hold off getting a contract plan until the nexus 5 comes out.
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There is a guide for tgat all u need is root
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I already am root and I'm already running on Verizon's 3g but still with sprint. Its switching to vz full time I'm wondering how to do
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You won't be able to use their LTE no matter what you do short of getting a VZ device... So why bother even trying to keep the evo
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Im not really concerned with 4g per se. I'm wanting to go ATT but really feel the phone I want is the Nexus 5 based on the rumors. I like my evo 4g because of its camera. Honestly right now it is plenty fast for everything. In running meanbean on it and there doesn't appear to be anything I can't handle just fine.
I hate sprints service so I flashed the Verizon prl and after putting 5gb on it this week I should be getting terminated before too long.
ill need a service to jump on and Verizon's month to month is $70 with 2gb. That should be plenty for me. ATTs month to month sucks and I dont care for their phones right now. My goal is the Nexus 5 anyway. I'd rather just use verizons monthly with my current phone. Just depends how things work out. I also get 22% off Verizon plans so hoping that translates to a good deal.
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Im not really concerned with 4g per se. I'm wanting to go ATT but really feel the phone I want is the Nexus 5 based on the rumors. I like my evo 4g because of its camera. Honestly right now it is plenty fast for everything. In running meanbean on it and there doesn't appear to be anything I can't handle just fine.
I hate sprints service so I flashed the Verizon prl and after putting 5gb on it this week I should be getting terminated before too long.
ill need a service to jump on and Verizon's month to month is $70 with 2gb. That should be plenty for me. ATTs month to month sucks and I dont care for their phones right now. My goal is the Nexus 5 anyway. I'd rather just use verizons monthly with my current phone. Just depends how things work out. I also get 22% off Verizon plans so hoping that translates to a good deal.
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I doubt you will get any discounts on a prepaid plans
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Im not really concerned with 4g per se. I'm wanting to go ATT but really feel the phone I want is the Nexus 5 based on the rumors. I like my evo 4g because of its camera. Honestly right now it is plenty fast for everything. In running meanbean on it and there doesn't appear to be anything I can't handle just fine.
I hate sprints service so I flashed the Verizon prl and after putting 5gb on it this week I should be getting terminated before too long.
ill need a service to jump on and Verizon's month to month is $70 with 2gb. That should be plenty for me. ATTs month to month sucks and I dont care for their phones right now. My goal is the Nexus 5 anyway. I'd rather just use verizons monthly with my current phone. Just depends how things work out. I also get 22% off Verizon plans so hoping that translates to a good deal.
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The problem is getting Verizon's system to recognize a Sprint phone. You can take GSM phones from carrier to carrier because all you have to do is transfer the SIM card, but that doesn't work with CDMA carriers since there's no SIM card. You'd actually have to get Verizon to provision a Sprint phone for their system, and somehow I don't see them doing that.
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The problem is getting Verizon's system to recognize a Sprint phone. You can take GSM phones from carrier to carrier because all you have to do is transfer the SIM card, but that doesn't work with CDMA carriers since there's no SIM card. You'd actually have to get Verizon to provision a Sprint phone for their system, and somehow I don't see them doing that.
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Even if you could swap Sims it wouldn't help ya as the device itself is not provisioned to work on all of VZ freq.... Namely LTE... Lot more to how devices connect than the SIM cards...
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Call verizon customer service tell them you want to open a prepaid account and port the phone and they will help you. See the only real difference between the verizon 4g phones and sprint are the lack of sim card and imei. But you can still program it to work on verizons network. All customer service agents aren't the same by the way. So if one doesn't know how to help you then another one will and you will get your phone on their. Also if you take a look in this same section this really cool guy wrote a guide on flashing a evo 4g lte to verizon prepaid.
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Even if you could swap Sims it wouldn't help ya as the device itself is not provisioned to work on all of VZ freq.... Namely LTE... Lot more to how devices connect than the SIM cards...
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That was my point. Sprint and Verizon are both CDMA providers and it's not as simple as just swapping out the SIM like you can do when you move from one GSM provider to another (e.g. AT&T to TMobile).
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That was my point. Sprint and Verizon are both CDMA providers and it's not as simple as just swapping out the SIM like you can do when you move from one GSM provider to another (e.g. AT&T to TMobile).
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as long as you can get verizon to accept the ESN number your good. verizon has been known to be more accepting of sprint ESNs than visa versa. Though you will not get anything higher than 3g which will top out around 3-5mbps. Also you have to get the phone to accept verizon prls but i think someone has a guide for that..signal should be good though paying 70 for prepaid verizon 2gb i'd rather just get tmobile at 30$ for 5gb of AWS signal just pick up a sony xperia Z
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as long as you can get verizon to accept the ESN number your good. verizon has been known to be more accepting of sprint ESNs than visa versa. Though you will not get anything higher than 3g which will top out around 3-5mbps. Also you have to get the phone to accept verizon prls but i think someone has a guide for that..signal should be good though paying 70 for prepaid verizon 2gb i'd rather just get tmobile at 30$ for 5gb of AWS signal just pick up a sony xperia Z
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You'll never get 3-5mbps using Verizon 3g. More like 1-2. Still way better than Sprint 3g though.
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Found this with the search function, it's from last year, not sure if it's still accurate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975953&highlight=straight
"Flashing to Straight Talk" can vary, depending on how you want to go about it... Straight Talk has two types of service, CDMA and GSM, both of which will work on the Rezound to a varying degree.
The CDMA mode is as @mjones73 mentioned, and it required a donor phone to clone the ESN/MEID from to be activated. This will use Verizon service in 3G mode, which is kind of slow (about 600kbps in my area at best) but it will work. The practice of ESN cloning is... umm... questionable though technically possible.
The GSM mode requires a stockish global mode ROM, and a T-Mobile or AT&T SIM card from Straight Talk... Voice and SMS will work out of the box, MMS and data require a little tweaking. There are a few guides out there but @REV3NT3CH is working on a guide to get AT&T 4G on the Rezound... yes, I said 4G! I believe he also has/had 3G working on T-Mobile service with Straight Talk as well. Be patient, those guides will be coming soon, I know he is working on them and they should be ready soon.
I can help anybody flash their phone to straight talk PM me
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Just wondering if there was any update on the potential access to 4g for the Rezzy on Straight Talk. Saw it mentioned and have been thinking about flashing over to Straight Talk.
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Just wondering if there was any update on the potential access to 4g for the Rezzy on Straight Talk. Saw it mentioned and have been thinking about flashing over to Straight Talk.
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4G on Verizon (CDMA/LTE) will likely never be possible unless Verizon has a serious change of policy.
4G/LTE may be possible on an StraightTalk AT&T SIM, @REV3NT3CH keeps saying he has it working and will be putting out this step-by-step guide, but so far it seems just like a vaporous apparition.
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4G on Verizon (CDMA/LTE) will likely never be possible unless Verizon has a serious change of policy.
4G/LTE may be possible on an StraightTalk AT&T SIM, @REV3NT3CH keeps saying he has it working and will be putting out this step-by-step guide, but so far it seems just like a vaporous apparition.
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Um.. Typo maybe? Maybe I didn't read that right?
I'm on Verizon and I get 4g fine.
Maybe you meant GSM won't get 4g, or that Verizon phones won't get 4g on different networks?
Lol.
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Um.. Typo maybe? Maybe I didn't read that right?
I'm on Verizon and I get 4g fine.
Maybe you meant GSM won't get 4g, or that Verizon phones won't get 4g on different networks?
Lol.
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Sorry, I meant a phone with Straight Talk service using Verizon towers.
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Sorry, I meant a phone with Straight Talk service using Verizon towers.
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to answer all the confusion....the htc vigor (rezound) has all the bands to support it...they are just locked by default in the nv....its alot of hex coding and as i do get 4g i also noticed a few errors....like it confusing certain roms to default and do a weird lock and defaults back to cdma only after a few hours of usage on 4g....the reason for its delay on release is kitkat development
As far as gsm goes I didn't even hafta do anything I just popped in my sim card to stock and I could do calls texts yes both sending and receiving (but this is on T-Mobile gsm which should be similar) I haven't found a ROM yet (I'm on PAC man right now) that I can't get everything working on it without too much trouble (I don't have a data plan but I can get MMS to work which works through data)
Edit: (I couldn't get Gsm working on the 4.4 ROM) but that's it
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As far as gsm goes I didn't even hafta do anything I just popped in my sim card to stock and I could do calls texts yes both sending and receiving (but this is on T-Mobile gsm which should be similar) I haven't found a ROM yet (I'm on PAC man right now) that I can't get everything working on it without too much trouble (I don't have a data plan but I can get MMS to work which works through data)
Edit: (I couldn't get Gsm working on the 4.4 ROM) but that's it
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I'm actually working on a pure gsm kitkat for the rezound....i can also second that right now it doesnt work from straight flash....requires a few build.prop edits and to enter a special menu just to get calling and normal texting to work...data was hit or miss with the 4.4 on the main dev thread...i will also second that using a sim card for straight talk is much less of a hassle than actually flashing the carrier to your rezound and depending on the flash youll never be able to change your rom again without breaking the flash....i use their att version of their sim as tmobile has less likely of a chance to get 4g to ever work on the rezound.....i have gotten it to work with a certain model of their micro sim and sim adapter with a mass multitude of nv edits....
OK been thinking about moving to straight talk with my Rezound. I'm already rooted with custom rom cm10.2. Can I just put in an AT&T straight talk sim card and get 4g coverage? If not are there steps I can do to get 4g working?
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Uncleheff said:
OK been thinking about moving to straight talk with my Rezound. I'm already rooted with custom rom cm10.2. Can I just put in an AT&T straight talk sim card and get 4g coverage? If not are there steps I can do to get 4g working?
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no the highest you will get currently is 3g....however i am working on the NV edits (which is required to even get the 3g in the first place) to get full 4g which is only obtainable via the att micro sim and micro sim to normal sim adapter....also you will have to edit the apn settings to get data....same would go if you were to flash it....which just getting a sim is cheaper
Is it illegal to flash the Rezound, or any Verizon phone for that matter, to straight talk?
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Uncleheff said:
Is it illegal to flash the Rezound, or any Verizon phone for that matter, to straight talk?
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No... why would you think that?
Now, if you do something like cloning a MEID/IMEI number, that might fall into a different category, but "flashing" a Rezound to Straight Talk (or most other carrier) involves little more then enabling some of the features and changing a few settings in the phone that are hidden, disabled, or limited by the default carrier.
I think part of the steps to flash the Rezound to get 3g coverage is to have a donor phone and clone it. So you're saying the cloning part would be illegal? What if you own the donor phone and the Rezound outright?
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Uncleheff said:
I think part of the steps to flash the Rezound to get 3g coverage is to have a donor phone and clone it. So you're saying the cloning part would be illegal? What if you own the donor phone and the Rezound outright?
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So, you mean move it to Straight Talk CDMA service, not GSM? Different ballgame... ESN/MEID cloning for fraudulent purposes is clearly illegal, doing it yourself for devices you own is a very grey area, the law isn't as cut and dry, if you Google the question of ESN cloning you will find widely varied answers but nothing cut and dry.
I know people who have done it successfully for exactly the purpose and situation you describe and haven't had an issue, but at the same time if Straight Talk/PagePlus or whoever decided to push it, they could say you are performing fraud and possibly violating their terms of service as well since the device ESN is not just a radio identifier, it also is assigned by the manufacturer and registered with a specific device and specific capabilities.
All in all, its your call...no where have I seen this discussion come a black and white answer.
The difference with using SIMs between devices and ESN swapping is clear though and ruled not illegal as the capabilities and service are tied to the SIM and not the not the device itself, as although carriers may require the devices IMEI number for provisioning their services and prevention of fraudulent activities.
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So, you mean move it to Straight Talk CDMA service, not GSM? Different ballgame... ESN/MEID cloning for fraudulent purposes is clearly illegal, doing it yourself for devices you own is a very grey area, the law isn't as cut and dry, if you Google the question of ESN cloning you will find widely varied answers but nothing cut and dry.
I know people who have done it successfully for exactly the purpose and situation you describe and haven't had an issue, but at the same time if Straight Talk/PagePlus or whoever decided to push it, they could say you are performing fraud and possibly violating their terms of service as well since the device ESN is not just a radio identifier, it also is assigned by the manufacturer and registered with a specific device and specific capabilities.
All in all, its your call...no where have I seen this discussion come a black and white answer.
The difference with using SIMs between devices and ESN swapping is clear though and ruled not illegal as the capabilities and service are tied to the SIM and not the not the device itself, as although carriers may require the devices IMEI number for provisioning their services and prevention of fraudulent activities.
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I have a friend that wants me to help them get a Verizon phone working on straight talk and I want to make sure I'm not about to unknowingly do something illegal. That's why all the questions. Thanks for the help. Next question.....if the phone has gsm settings they could just switch to that for service and everything is legal? Also what kind of data speeds can be expected? 2g, 3g, or 4g (yea right!!!)?
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Uncleheff said:
I have a friend that wants me to help them get a Verizon phone working on straight talk and I want to make sure I'm not about to unknowingly do something illegal. That's why all the questions. Thanks for the help. Next question.....if the phone has gsm settings they could just switch to that for service and everything is legal? Also what kind of data speeds can be expected? 2g, 3g, or 4g (yea right!!!)?
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As I said, the legality is questionable... Its not black and white.
The Rezound is a Global Phone and has GSM capabilities to an extent... 2G/Edge is possible on all US GSM carriers, 3G/HSPA is possible on AT&T based networks with a compatible ROM. 4G/HSPA+ is marginally possible with a LOT of modding, @REV3NT3CH is kind of the master here on that. 4G/LTE is not possible on any non-VZW carrier.
That being said, the Rezound's GSM radios are not tuned for US carriers, so signal strength and data performance suffer.
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Uncleheff said:
I have a friend that wants me to help them get a Verizon phone working on straight talk and I want to make sure I'm not about to unknowingly do something illegal. That's why all the questions. Thanks for the help. Next question.....if the phone has gsm settings they could just switch to that for service and everything is legal? Also what kind of data speeds can be expected? 2g, 3g, or 4g (yea right!!!)?
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its lega las the rezound comes even with stock latest update with unlocked gsm capabilities...you just have to make certain edits to get the 3g to work...i used an att based sim for straight talk and was able to get really good 3g with the proper modifications to build.prop, ril, and nv edits