[Q] Something seems not right after clicking the update button today - HTC EVO 3D

This morning, Oct 18, 2011, my HTC EVO 3D alerted me of a new update available. I wasn't quite sure if it was a software update or Android update as it only said "Update". The information provided talks about 3D games and so on. The file/update was around 36MB. I downloaded via Wi-Fi and when I'm about to install. I clicked OK. It showed "Shutting down" then after a couple of seconds. I saw a blue(can't remember) triangle caution/warning sign with a little android guy on the screen with no progress bar what so ever. It hanged there for almost 4 minutes. So I started doubt if everything went right. I went ahead and took off the battery. I'm not sure if I updated it fully or correctly.
My phone info:
HTC EVO 3D x515m GSM
Rooted
Now the phone is fine but I don't feel so good now. I feel something inside has broken. I also did a search later and found that Android 4.0 is out. The demo video looks great. I'm not sure if that's for HTC EVO 3D also. But if I want to upgrade to that or make any update, can I unroot my phone then reroot after the upgrade? What do you recommend for a rooted user?
So far I only root it to use Simba and Titanium Backup (but I haven't backup anything yet cuz I think MyLookUp can backup everything I need or Titanium Backup can).
I'm a little worried as the phone is my favourite so far. Please help me find a next step to be up-to-date with the updates.
Regards

First: That's the normal install screen for when it's turned off. I'd have given it like 10-15 mins. If it was just a program software update then you really couldn't have broken much. No worries there.
Second: ICS is released, but it's not available on the Evo3d (Unofficially or officially). You'll know when it is, forums will be on fire with "How to install" threads. And if you're looking to install it over the air, you may be waiting a few months, since HTC would have to get it working, and they're slow asses.
Third: If you install a major update (Like upgrading the Hboot to 1.5, probably ICS when it comes out too) you'll lose root and S-off and be unable to re-root and S-off till people find a new exploit to give it to you. Don't accept OTA's or bad things can happen.
Last: If you want to keep it up to date, AND keep root/s-off you need to learn how to flash roms, and follow the development section. People will take the HTC approved OTA updates, clean em off, and you can install them without losing root.
If you don't trust yourself to play around with roms, then you're kinda stuck picking between root and being up to date.

Thank you so much for your reply. You've cleared all my confusions in just a single post

Go into Settings> System Updates> and turn off Automatic Updates to keep your phone from auto-updating like that.

ScottSNX said:
Go into Settings> System Updates> and turn off Automatic Updates to keep your phone from auto-updating like that.
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Thanks, I just updated that setting. I never knew it was there, by the way and the way it's written on mine doesn't seem like that option exists on that page lolz but it did and changed it .

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[Q] Christmas morn in Evoland, got mine the day before Christmas, and Questions...

In about an hour from now retail stores will be open early for this the "official" launch of the Evo 3D. I received mine yesterday morning and spent the next several hours putting it all together, from configurations to apps to screens. I decided not to get the OTA given the bugs reported. I've also read over the various threads, especially the one on bugs. As I type this, with my Evo 3D fully loaded with all my stuff, I must say I am experiencing no real issues of concern, and am but left with two questions for you knowledgeable folks:
1. The OTA doesn't seem to be bugging me, only if I go look for it via Settings will I get prompted to install it. I use Calengoo instead of the stock calendar (including widget) and all seems to be fine without the OTA, and I like having my phone icon on the lock screen, and at this point a hard reset would mean hours of work putting things together and configuring yesterday. So, you people who understand the world of OTA: if HTC fixes the bugs in the original OTA that many of you already installed, will they pull the one I am being prompted to install, and replace it with another one? In other words, if I wait, should this issue be fixed by HTC and I get an OTA prompt in the future that does not have the noted bugs with the pre-launch version?
2. The only issue is the Watch app. Can't watch the pre-installed 3D Green Hornet movie, cycles forever trying to download the license. I understand this has been fixed, also as an OTA. But I cannot seem to get past not accepting the first 26 meg buggy OTA to get to the second 2 meg Watch app OTA. Is there a way to get the Watch OTA without installing the original OTA? Am I missing something?
The only other comment is that even though I haven't been able to see the 3D Green Hornet movie because I don't know how to access the second OTA which apparently fixes the Watch app because I didn't install the first OTA which screws up the lock screen, looking at the samples and taking 3D pictures is going to take some getting used to! Oh yeah, I had already uploaded my 10000+ songs to Google Music Beta. What a great service. No more copying song files and filling up SD cards.
This is a great mobile phone. Although I wonder now that today will bring with it many thousands of new Evo 3D activations, if these OTA issues won't sent HTC off a cliff briefly. I am now about to install the Sprint Airave, for the full mobile experience. Good luck with your new Evo 3Ds...
If I'm not mistaken, which is possible since my 3vo is on it's way, the 2nd OTA is an App Update. The OTA should be accessible w/o the need of the 1st OTA. Or at least that is what I've heard while lurking on the forums. I would also like clarification on this from someone who has the OTAs, or just the 2nd OTA.
Thanks.
BTW 1st post. Time to bash the noob. 0_0
VintageSin said:
If I'm not mistaken, which is possible since my 3vo is on it's way, the 2nd OTA is an App Update. The OTA should be accessible w/o the need of the 1st OTA. Or at least that is what I've heard while lurking on the forums. I would also like clarification on this from someone who has the OTAs, or just the 2nd OTA.
Thanks.
BTW 1st post. Time to bash the noob. 0_0
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From one noob (who posted the original questions) to another! That is essentially my question. I would like to have access to the second app update OTA for Watch. But get this recent development: I just went a few moments ago to Settings/System Updates/HTC Software Update and did a check, I am NOW prompted that everything is up to date! In other words, NO OTAs are appearing. What is going on here I wonder? HTC must have pulled the OTA because of the bugs noted, so I guess I'll never see the 3D movie pre-installed. How will life go on?
Scratch that...
drplaud said:
From one noob (who posted the original questions) to another! That is essentially my question. I would like to have access to the second app update OTA for Watch. But get this recent development: I just went a few moments ago to Settings/System Updates/HTC Software Update and did a check, I am NOW prompted that everything is up to date! In other words, NO OTAs are appearing. What is going on here I wonder? HTC must have pulled the OTA because of the bugs noted, so I guess I'll never see the 3D movie pre-installed. How will life go on?
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I tried the update again and indeed was just prompted to install the FOTA update 1.13.651.7 (26.59 MB). If I hit CANCEL, which I have done since getting the Evo 3D yesterday, that's that, no option to install the Watch App OTA update. Perhaps some of the learned folks here can help me in my confusion...

Had no choice but to take the update...

Anyone else have this? I didn't have a choice to take it because I couldn't download anything from the market till I did. What kind of **** is that?
i dunno
because i have yet to take it, and i can download from market no problem
most of the time though i go online to android and choose the app, then let it auto download to my phone
I didn't take the update either and have no problem downloading from market. Updated my prl and that was it.
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Yea, I did all of those updates right out of the box but I still all day couldn't download from the market till I install the system update. It sucked but hey, here I am, waiting for root.
just take the update. they'll update the update until they actually fix most everything. except the important stuff.
I could do everything except watch The Green Hornet on my phone without the updates. I took it anyways because I don't really need to root my phone right now. I'm going to enjoy it as it's meant to be enjoyed by HTC for right now, then when the bootloader gets unlocked, I'll go ahead and root it when it's caught up to the software update. It'll happen, just give it time.
Not much improvement can he expected yet even if we achieve root... Just sayin this phone is plenty capable already... But then there is root only apps... That does suck not to have
Bussin Caps from my 3D shooter

X2 do I have to update?

Hi everyone. I got an X2 a few months ago and it has Android 2.2.2 installed. I used gingerbreak to gain root access and then froze all the extra bloat with Bloatfreezer. This morning I woke up to a message about an update to 2.3. I have a few questions about this..
Do I have to?
Can I use gingerbreak after the update and redressed all of the bloat?
I've been wanting to try one of the custom roms floating around on here but I just haven't had the time to do it. Is the update going to ruin my chance to do that for a while?
One last note, I have used this site in the past to help root my D1, but I still don't really know what is happening on my phone when I root/flash roms/etc. I know its unlikely that someone could teach a whole programming lesson on here, but a sticky for people new to it explaining what is actually happening would be a great help.
Sorry for the long post, thanks for the help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193818
I asked mr clown to add this to the roll up sticky I don't think he got around to it yet, if you follow these directions you will have rooted 2.3.3, there is no gingerbreak app that works on this update, you MUST follow these directions to get root on gingerbread.
Edit: you do not HAVE to update, and I can't answer your other questions without some serious talking out my @$$
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Thanks for a quick reply. I'd rather stay where I'm at right now but it told me on the popup message that I had an hour until it would update. Do I have to postpone every hour now to avoid update?
About 30 posts down this list is one titled 'how to stop autoupdate' its got ways there
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I accidentally updated. I had the phone turned sideways and rotated and then pushed the update later button but after it rotated it was actually the update now button. I decided to let it play out, but after all is said and done, I still have the super user icon on my phone. None of the apps which require root will function but I do have the super user icon present.
Is that just a glitch?
Will it still root properly?
Is there another way to check for root access?
mikeb210 said:
I accidentally updated. I had the phone turned sideways and rotated and then pushed the update later button but after it rotated it was actually the update now button. I decided to let it play out, but after all is said and done, I still have the super user icon on my phone. None of the apps which require root will function but I do have the super user icon present.
Is that just a glitch?
Will it still root properly?
Is there another way to check for root access?
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Super user icon is stuck now, only way to root is to flash back to 2.2.2
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And you should definately do that in my opinion, carrying the superuser icon with NONE of the benefits of being rooted? No reason for that IMO You've rooted previously so you might as well go do this right, follow the step by step intstructions on sbfing back to froyo and hitting up P3s prerooted update file, and as for explaining the stuff how technical do you want it to get... the basic idea of rooting is that its giving you access to the "root" of your phones directories/controls kinda like an administrator on the computer, the flashing/sbfing is simply swapping one or more sets of your phones programing out for another,
their are a couple boring vids on youtube that can show you the ropes of what this development actually is if you can watch a couple times without falling asleep
Yep, you have su apk, but it's not going to work.
You're going to have to sbf back to 2.2 and do the ginger break, etc process to get 2.3 rooted on your phone.
Thanks for the responses. I think I'll give this a go tomorrow. To be clear though, now that there is an sbf, there is no real danger of permanently killing the phone right? Hopefully I wont need it, but it helps knowing that I can't completely screw things up.
mikeb210 said:
To be clear though, now that there is an sbf, there is no real danger of permanently killing the phone right?
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There is always a chance that you will be the first person to hard brick your phone, but if you soft brick yeah you can sbf back. Like I said if you hard brick you'd be the first person on these forums to do it
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[OTA UPDATE] 45.2.5.en.US

It looks like Motorola has officially updated the device. I found it about 2 hours ago when I was on the road. To my surprise, there is still no thread on this that I noticed.
Hopefully, we can get some info on this update as it pertains to those who either root or unlock. I don't have the information but hopefully, someone will brave it and attempt to get it. Such questions that I would like to see answered include:
- Do you lose root after the update?
- If you lose root, does the dock root method still work? Does the dockless method still work?
- If you installed bootstrapped or unlocked recovery, does this update cause any problems? Are backups made before the OTA still good to use after?
Well, for those of us who are dock rooted, or at least for me, I can say that the update goes seemingly through the entire process and then it comes back and says that the update failed. I check for updates and it is there again asking me to try. Not sure what's up.
This is new and exciting.
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Root is lost with update
My phone updated yesterday and I lost my root. I will try the photon root method again to see if I regain root. I will keep you all posted.
if im not mistaken this is the ota.. on which i can confirm that afterwards you can root again. its just like any other phone tho updating will kill root
Well it will not update for me. "Update failed" every time. I am dock rooted and installed boot strap recovery (CWM). Any suggestions?
enigmatl said:
It looks like Motorola has officially updated the device. I found it about 2 hours ago when I was on the road. To my surprise, there is still no thread on this that I noticed.
Hopefully, we can get some info on this update as it pertains to those who either root or unlock. I don't have the information but hopefully, someone will brave it and attempt to get it. Such questions that I would like to see answered include:
- Do you lose root after the update?
- If you lose root, does the dock root method still work? Does the dockless method still work?
- If you installed bootstrapped or unlocked recovery, does this update cause any problems? Are backups made before the OTA still good to use after?
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EDIt: Nvm this is old news bud. Posts everywhere
-DJ
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Lost my root torpedo version
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Re-root after update confirmed
I just re-rooted my phone using the dockless photon.tar method and regained root without any problems.
enigmatl said:
It looks like Motorola has officially updated the device. I found it about 2 hours ago when I was on the road. To my surprise, there is still no thread on this that I noticed.
Hopefully, we can get some info on this update as it pertains to those who either root or unlock. I don't have the information but hopefully, someone will brave it and attempt to get it. Such questions that I would like to see answered include:
- Do you lose root after the update?
- If you lose root, does the dock root method still work? Does the dockless method still work?
- If you installed bootstrapped or unlocked recovery, does this update cause any problems? Are backups made before the OTA still good to use after?
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Welcome to last week!!! j/k. I am glad that you finally found out about the official update. FYI there were tons of threads about ppl receiving the official update. It may not have been on the XDA sites but some of the other fan sites like androidforums, sprint users all posted that the official release was out since last tues, 8/23.
Yes you do lose root but you can just re-root it to get it back. Just do the dockless root. It is wayyyy easier since you don't have to go to a website and dl the tar file.
enigmatl said:
It looks like Motorola has officially updated the device. I found it about 2 hours ago when I was on the road. To my surprise, there is still no thread on this that I noticed.
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When you're looking for old news, you need to look at more than the last few threads.
I heard that Sprint is coming out with their first 4g device soon.... the Evo 4g.
Sent from my Motorola Photon 4g
Okay. Some people are in serious need of a freakin CHILL PILL.
I got my notice of an update a few hours ago. I came here thinking XDA was the place, the hub for this kind of stuff. I checked like the first 20 threads and there was nothing. Neither I nor most other people are going to go through dozens of pages to look for info on this especially when as I typed the subject, XDA's search returned NOTHING.
And a note to the mods, there have been a lot of unfriendly BS answers to very good questions as of late. If a blind eye is turned to it over and over, it is gonna cost XDA it's title in the minds of many that this is THE place for information on the devices that it covers.
So enough of the unfriendly sarcastic BS answers. There's no need for crappy answers like welcome to last week especially when such a post doesn't come with a link.
That said, I will try this one more time. When I try to install the update, it always says update fails. I rooted with the dock method and installed the bootstrap recovery. Does anybody know what could be causing this to happen?
If you are having problems then flash this.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202666
Final build courtesy of the fine folks at MOTOROLA 8/11/11 The sarcasm was in fun. But on your end just think of how annoying it is when this happens on a daily basis. Take a couple of minutes to look through development and see all the crap people have posted. You'll see how cluttered it can get. We do appreciate that you meant well.
Sent from my Motorola Photon 4g
enigmatl said:
Okay. Some people are in serious need of a freakin CHILL PILL.
I got my notice of an update a few hours ago. I came here thinking XDA was the place, the hub for this kind of stuff. I checked like the first 20 threads and there was nothing. Neither I nor most other people are going to go through dozens of pages to look for info on this especially when as I typed the subject, XDA's search returned NOTHING.
And a note to the mods, there have been a lot of unfriendly BS answers to very good questions as of late. If a blind eye is turned to it over and over, it is gonna cost XDA it's title in the minds of many that this is THE place for information on the devices that it covers.
So enough of the unfriendly sarcastic BS answers. There's no need for crappy answers like welcome to last week especially when such a post doesn't come with a link.
That said, I will try this one more time. When I try to install the update, it always says update fails. I rooted with the dock method and installed the bootstrap recovery. Does anybody know what could be causing this to happen?
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Maybe the difference is the bootstrap recovery installation. I rooted with the docking method but didnt install a bootstrap recovery. The OTA update went perfect today. Maybe it succeeded because i didnt have the bootstrap recovery installed? A possibility?
If you have updated webtop (dockless connection), your OTA update may fail. Replace the files with your original webtop files and the OTA update should work.
OTA update speeded up my photon
My photon is opening apps, emails, and web pages 50% to 100% faster after running the OTA update.
Holy smoking photons! My phone is BLAZING fast, google maps and navigation are nearly instantaneous, YELP populates in 1 second!!!
Isn't this just the leak from 8/11/11?
I don't understand the big deal, or why an OTA update of a leaked rom two weeks ago is being talked about in the development board?
enigmatl said:
Well it will not update for me. "Update failed" every time. I am dock rooted and installed boot strap recovery (CWM). Any suggestions?
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Did you uninstall any system apps after rooting? If so, those will need to be restored.
When you try the update how far does it get? If the phone reboots and gets to the Android guy with the progress bar just press and hold both volume buttons at same time and it will show you the error message.
My Phone was Rooted using the Dock Method... installed the update without any issue and Re-Root it using the Dock method again. Everything still runs like a charm.

OTA update from 45.2.7 to 45.3.6 fails - FIXED!!!

Update Failure from 45.2.7 to 45.3.6 SOLVED!!!!
LOTS of people who purchased NEW Photons in the past few weeks have phones that shipped with a faulty image from the factory. These phones shipped with Software Version 45.2.7, but are ABSOLUTELY UNABLE to upgrade to 45.3.6. Anytime you try to update, the installation stops at 30% and quits. The common error message has something to to with the AccountAndSyncSettings.apk file.
I've figured out a FIX to the update failure. It may seem like it's a bit risky, but if you're on the last day of the 14 after initial purchase when you can swap out the phone no questions asked, it's worth a try. Actually, it's pretty simple without a lot of heavy lifing. Keep in mind, the phone this worked on had very few apps installed and was NOT rooted. I work in the IT field, but have NEVER done any modding - and I found it quite easy to do.
Some Background: My phone was purchased NEW direct from Sprint on 10/08/2011. It came with software version 45.2.7. When attempting to upgrade to 45.3.6, I received the now infamous error that has something to do with the AccountAndSyncSettings.apk file. Tried EVERYTHING the first few days with the phone - no upgrade success (about 15 factory resets). Made multiple posts on this board and read all of the responses for days. NO UPDATES from Sprint or Motorola. So, I took the phone back to a Sprint store for a 'no questions asked within 14-days exchange'. Never activated email, didn't even sync my contacts. Just went straight to the update. The new phone was also a 45.2.7 Software Version phone, and as you can probably guess, Update Failed on the 2nd phone as well. Went to THREE Washington, DC area Sprint authorized repair facilities to see if they can 'manually' update the phone, or even re-image the phone. Sprint was USELESS!!! Not only did the 'technicians' (and I use that word VERY loosely) not know anything about our problem, they had NO means to manually apply an update or write a new base SBF (system boot file) to the phones. Finally, after sitting in traffic coming home from work today, I had reached my breaking point.
The Fix: After days of scouring websites and phone calls to Motorola and Sprint (those were nothing more than a waste of cell minutes), I figured maybe I could mess with it myself. I had been hesitant because I was afraid of 'bricking' the Photon and then I'd have nothing more than a $200 paperweight. Then it hit me. What if it was already 'bricked'? Somebody has had to have done it to their Photon already. If they had, they must have looked for a solution. If there was a 'recovery solution' for a bricked Photon, maybe that fix may solve the problems we are all having with our BRAND NEW Photons.
Searching last night, I found a link from a few months ago. As a new member, I'm not allowed to post the link. But if Google these exact words, the VERY FIRST return is a page from the AddictiveTips website.
Came home from work, poured myself a cocktail and I went to work. First I downloaded the SBF. Now this takes the phone back to the version PRIOR to 45.2.7 (sorry, forgot to write that down when taking my notes). When you follow the link to download the SBF, there are a bunch of link options. Some have been taken down, others are still working. The file you want to download is 471MB and has this filename:
1FF-sunfire-user-2.3.4-4.5.1A-1_SUN-154_5-CM-release-keys-signed-Sprint-US
Then I downloaded the RSDLite software and drivers. I used a 32-bit Windows 7 laptop and installation went without a hitch. There are 64-bit drivers, but I'm not sure how they work. I did read where 'some' people had problems with the 64-bit varieties, so that's why I made a point of doing it on a 32-bit PC. From there, the instructions on the above listed link worked PERFECTLY.
There are a few things to keep in mind. BE PATIENT. This does take a while, and there were a few times that I wondered if something went wrong. It may hang at some stages for a few minutes, be patient.
Once I flashed the phone with the SBF and it was done installing and rebooting, (much to my amazement) all of my apps and customizations were in tact. I pulled my SD card to be safe, but I suspect it wouldn't have messed up my SD card. I would pull it prior to flashing just to be safe. If you want to take one extra step just to ensure success, you could do a factory Reset PRIOR to doing the flashing. I didn't have to, but it probably wouldn't hurt.
Literally seconds after it booted into the OS for the first time post SBF flashing, I was alerted to a software update: Update 45.2.7 (6.5MB). Downloaded rather quick and promted me to install now or later. I pressed install and away it went. Once again, be patient. It takes a few minutes. The progress bar moves rather steadily until it reaches 75%. Then it appears to stall/hang there for a few minutes. Then, the install progress bar vanishes and the OS boots up. A few seconds later, I got the message "Software update was successful. Your phone has been upgraded to 45.2.7". I went to SETTINGS, ABOUT PHONE, SYSTEM UPDATES and queried for additional updates. Sure enough, 45.3.6 was available. Forgot to document the file size. Downloaded and clicked INSTALL. Much like the previous update, progress moved steady till about 75%. Then progress bar and Android character vanished and the phone booted into the OS. About a minute later, the words I have been looking for for over a week:
"Software update was successful. Your phone has been upgraded to 45.3.6"
Queried software update again, and it said your phone was UP TO DATE. Yipee!!!!
I was getting NO SOUND. I think it was beause I inserted the SD card while the phone was still powered on. So, I rebooted the phone and EVERYTHING works perfectly.
If you want to wait for Mark (forum manager) to come up with a fix, I understand. In fact, it's probably the right thing to do. But if you're beyond frustrated (like I was) in the lack of information and lack of solutions from Sprint or Motorola; and want to take matters into your own hands; this worked for me.
do u happen to have a link for the 64 bit drivers ?
I'm unable to locate one.
Thanks for your help.
daddymikey1975 said:
do u happen to have a link for the 64 bit drivers ?
I'm unable to locate one.
Thanks for your help.
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See here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18642169
This method has been on XDA for some time. The sbf of 198_6 was even posted way before Motorola started to push it out. Just takes a peek into the dev section.
Glad you got it working.
Thanks!
This has worked for me.
I just followed the instructions.
@OP - Thank you so much! I had a slow, laggy Photon with the "Sleep of Death", and needed to get it to update so that I wouldn't experience that issue anymore.
I followed your instructions, and got the phone working again. At one point, I wanted to throw the phone at a wall.
Now, I love my MoPho.
Thanks for making me fall in love with my phone all over again!
By the way, you are a Junior Member, this is your first post, and I gave you your first thanks. You are very intelligent, I must say! I am very proud of you. Your first post, and you did something this amazing! I must say, you are a genius! You will make a great Senior Member, it takes time to become a Senior Member, and you will make a great one! Very proud of you. Thanks a lot! I really appreciate it !!!
Motorola has re-issued the 198_6 build to address this problem. Also, 198_7 is available in the MoPho dev subforum
tbhausen said:
Motorola has re-issued the 198_6 build to address this problem. Also, 198_7 is available in the MoPho dev subforum
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Well for me it does not fix....still the same old fail at about 30% install
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After failing 4 dozen times, I can happily report that the update FINALLY works!
HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!!
Riggy
I'm glad that it works. I used the same method, had a few issues but eventually got it to work.
Fyi...the NEW ota still did not work for me....spoke to sprint who spoke to moto tech support....moto wanted me to send them the phone (and be without a phone for week while they played around...sad moto..very sad)
Sprint is replacing my phone for free..good on Sprint
As for moto..this will be my LAST! moto phone..their service on this whole issue has been bad...and the joke of a support forum and "Mark" motos party line [email protected]%$!!!!...kiss my
... bye
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