Flashing Clockwork after flashing kernel - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

So I rooted my GS2 and flashed the clockwork kernel using odin. I know that the forums have been saying not to use Rom manager to flash CW.
I know that I have working CWM on my phone.
My question is, does that only apply to the initial flash? I.e. using Rom manager to flash CWM updates or flashing again from Rom manager so I can download Roms from the app, since the app is unusable unless you flash CWM from the app itself.
Or, Is there any way around Rom manager telling me I have to flash CWM before I can do anything.
All help is appreciated. I would rather be safe than sorry, and I don't exactly have 650 bones to drop on another phone if I brick this.
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short answer is, dont use ROM manager. period.

Yet CM7 tells me to use Rom manager to install
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Don't use ROM manager on att sgs2.
Both cm7 threads in the development section (stable and nightly) have direct links to cm7 cwm installs for att sgs2.
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Only use ROM Manager if you want to potentially brick your phone
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so when (if) i flash to cm7 and i want to install GAPPS, where do i get them from if not from rom manager

thale342 said:
so when (if) i flash to cm7 and i want to install GAPPS, where do i get them from if not from rom manager
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from the same place you download the zip file for the rom.....
its literally RIGHT below the download link for the rom....on the CM7 thread, here on xda....
dont have to look too far

sorry, looked right over that. thanks for your help

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[Q] Flashing New Roms

so, this may be answered somewhere else. but i couldnt really find a straight answer. i have bionix fusion flashed right now, so if i want to flash another rom, can i just flash it with bionix still installed? or should i reflash to stock then flash a new rom? sorry if this was confusing, just trying to get straight answer.
You can do either, most customs roms do a wipe for you automatically so it's like a fresh install. Just remember to disable any lag fix you have running
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No. you must start from fresh (stock). Odin back to JFD then root then install the rom. If you have voodoo installed, always disable it before you flash anything.
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I have flashed many times over custom roms, you don't need to go to stock unless you are going from a 2.2 to a 2.1 rom
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but to avoid future errors it's always a good habit to start from stock, especially if you're from bionix for instance and would like to install froyo. That huge modification requires a start from stock in order to avoid future errors. if it's minimal flashing then you can just flash without going to stock.
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I would agree with that
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ithsburtondwight said:
No. you must start from fresh (stock). Odin back to JFD then root then install the rom. If you have voodoo installed, always disable it before you flash anything.
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That's not true. You can do a straight flash over another rom. However, after you flash 4 or 5 roms over and over, it is good on occasion to flash to stock rom. I must have flashed every single Sombionix and Eugene rom available and only flashed to stock before flashing one of their roms once or twice.
Honestly if you flash to stock rom everytime, then flash a custom rom, you're really doing extra work for nothing as a few posts up had stated " most custom roms wipe everything anyways"; so just flashing back to stock, then flashing a custom rom is kinda pointless.
Moved to Q&A as not development.
Answered my question
I was just about to ask the same question. Thanks to all for this thread.

Flashing clockworkmod

Has anyone tried flashing clockworkmod using rom manager app? how was it composted to manual flash? Thanks.
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You cannot compost CWM .
Root and CWM post .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
ClockworkMod
CF-Root includes a custom version of CWM4. I always make custom versions, as the originals often do not take some Samsung specific things into account.
CF-Root/CWM4 is NOT compatible with ROM Manager! Manage/perform your backup/restores from CWM directly or using the CWM Manager application included with CF-Root
I'm sorry I don't know what you're saying. My phone is rooted already I only need to instal clockworkmod to install rom right? Please make it simple.
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Nurra said:
I'm sorry I don't know what you're saying. My phone is rooted already I only need to instal clockworkmod to install rom right? Please make it simple.
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Make it simple if you root with CMW & Root you get Clockwork Mod thats the method most custom roms use .
Other methods not a clue .
jje
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You cannot compost CWM .
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Think jje might be saying keep it simple and use a kernel that has cwm. Chainfires cfroot kernels for instance.
Rom manager...why when you have cwm app already in cfroot.
Edit: like above post said. Cfroot is not compatible with Rom manager.
It's pretty simple.
Flash one of chainfires kernels with Odin. Now you have root and cwm accessible via up+home+power or cwm app.
Download the desired cwm installable package (eg Rom) to your internal sdcard.
Access cwm recovery mode like said above and follow the process EXACTLY as the instructions say in the thread where you downloaded the cwm installable package. Eg Rom
Hope this helps.
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Ahh you're making a sense. I thought my tech language was bad do iv can't understand JJ. Anyway thanks guys I'll try the manual way.
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THe thing I learned:
Never use ROM manager when using a ROM based on samsung firmware.
Use ROM manager when using AOSP ROM like CM7.
Here I am again guys, sorry to bother you with my quest to change rom.
OK, so I can't install cwm with Rom manager.
I've tried installing cwm using the cyanogenmod guide, with no success. It gave me this ''ERROR: Failed to access device. Libush error: -12"
At this point, I'm desperate to install any rom. So I tried to unroot then install a sercure kernel back in to update official firmware. Even that doesn't work. I can't install the secure kernel. I eneded up installing the insecure kernel just to get the phone to work. So please lead me to something that easy?
Install a CF-Root kernel via Odin.You get root and CWM all included so you can install ROMs and do whatever.Thats what people have been tryin to tell you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
As that's great I'll try it asap. This is what I want to see simple and direct, you even provide a link.thanks a bunch dude.
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That was just too easy and here I was trying every other method. That thread should be pinned to the first page. Thanks everyone.

CM 7 & ROM Manager

In ROM Manager,what version of clockworkmod recovery do I need to flash?
What ROM are you in?
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VeryCoolAlan said:
What ROM are you in?
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I am on CM7
chadhoard said:
I am on CM7
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What is your end goal? You can't really flash cwm because it's built into the kernel.
If you're trying to go back to a Samsung based rom, you *NEED* yo Odin back to jfd and start from there (there is no other way, it must be Odin/heimdall and jfd).
If you're trying to flash to miui or a later nightly, "flash" vibrantmtd, or better yet, flash the rom by hand in recovery.
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geoffcorey said:
What is your end goal? You can't really flash cwm because it's built into the kernel.
If you're trying to go back to a Samsung based rom, you *NEED* yo Odin back to jfd and start from there (there is no other way, it must be Odin/heimdall and jfd).
If you're trying to flash to miui or a later nightly, "flash" vibrantmtd, or better yet, flash the rom by hand in recovery.
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I read some where I needed to use ROM Manager to update CM7, but if I just have to download it, copy it to my phone, reboot into recovery, then GREAT!!
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I read some where I needed to use ROM Manager to update CM7, but if I just have to download it, copy it to my phone, reboot into recovery, then GREAT!!
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People suggest rom manager all the time, but really it's just a gui to the recovery, with the ability to download roms.
Yeah, just flash while in recovery.
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geoffcorey said:
What is your end goal? You can't really flash cwm because it's built into the kernel.
If you're trying to go back to a Samsung based rom, you *NEED* yo Odin back to jfd and start from there (there is no other way, it must be Odin/heimdall and jfd).
If you're trying to flash to miui or a later nightly, "flash" vibrantmtd, or better yet, flash the rom by hand in recovery.
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Dido
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Installing Clockwork recovery

So I'm rooting my friends phone for him and planning to install villianrom.
So far ive rooted via zerg exploit.. All went well, after I downloaded ROM manager and install clock work recovery for "Samsung galaxy S 2". Rebooted into recovery and it took me into stock Android recovery, which of course means clockwork didn't install..
I've been doing some reading and it seems tho ppl install the tweaked kernel with root and recovery pre applied.. If there no way around going that route? I mean the phone is already rooted, can't I install clockwork some other way.
Also if I dont have any choice and have to go through the flashing pre rooted clockwork kernel through Odin. Suppose I install a ROM with a custom speed kernel, will I loose root and clock work since it's pre applied to the stockish kernel I flashed from Odin?
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Girn said:
So I'm rooting my friends phone for him and planning to install villianrom.
So far ive rooted via zerg exploit.. All went well, after I downloaded ROM manager and install clock work recovery for "Samsung galaxy S 2". Rebooted into recovery and it took me into stock Android recovery, which of course means clockwork didn't install..
ONCE more Rom Manager and CWM dont work on SGS2 .
I've been doing some reading and it seems tho ppl install the tweaked kernel with root and recovery pre applied.. If there no way around going that route? I mean the phone is already rooted, can't I install clockwork some other way.
No
Also if I dont have any choice and have to go through the flashing pre rooted clockwork kernel through Odin.
Suppose I install a ROM with a custom speed kernel,
Most roms have CWM anyway read the install instructions
will I loose root and clock work since it's pre applied to the stockish kernel I flashed from Odin?
No
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Not i9100 SGS2 then be wary of what you flash .
jje
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What is difference between original Android development and regular? Also phone is a bell gt-i9100m
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Girn said:
What is difference between original Android development and regular? Also phone is a bell gt-i9100m
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Original = built from sources. i.e. CyanogenMod for an example of a ROM, or Siyah for a kernel.
Regular = derivative from something else, i.e. many ROMs out there are usually derived from stock, with themes and such.
Just apply cf root specific to your phone base and flash it in the PDA section of Odin, it will re root your phone with cwm recovery, then place the villain from or from of your choice in the root of your SD card and flash it with cwm, any problems let me know
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need help rooting please

I just got this phone today and been trying to figure out how to root it and avoiding Odin. On my Samsung galaxy exhibit 4g all I had to do is download custom cwm recovery flash reboot go into recovery again backup then flash the ROM can I do the same for this phone? Just to let you know its currently running stock froyo 2.2
I would appreciate your time and effort in helping me.
schuylkillparanormal said:
I just got this phone today and been trying to figure out how to root it and avoiding Odin. On my Samsung galaxy exhibit 4g all I had to do is download custom cwm recovery flash reboot go into recovery again backup then flash the ROM can I do the same for this phone? Just to let you know its currently running stock froyo 2.2
I would appreciate your time and effort in helping me.
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You will need to use Odin. No way around it. And you will need to flash back to stock 2.1 then you can use the cwm recovery update.zip from the esental hard to find files thread and that will install cwm once your on 2.1 then you can download what ever ROM you want and flash it. FYI you will need to flash the ROM twice. Once will give me the jb recovery then the second time will install the rom
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cannondaleV2000 said:
You will need to use Odin. No way around it. And you will need to flash back to stock 2.1 then you can use the cwm recovery update.zip from the esental hard to find files thread and that will install cwm once your on 2.1 then you can download what ever ROM you want and flash it. FYI you will need to flash the ROM twice. Once will give me the jb recovery then the second time will install the rom
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Can't I just use superoneclick then flash recovery by just rephrasing in stock recovery? also will this work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723479
schuylkillparanormal said:
Can't I just use superoneclick then flash recovery by just rephrasing in stock recovery? also will this work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723479
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I just use the AIO vibrant toolbox, ain't nobody got time for hard to find files.
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Ace42 said:
I just use the AIO vibrant toolbox, ain't nobody got time for hard to find files.
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Can u b kind to provide a link were i can get this. And will this root stock froyo 2.2
schuylkillparanormal said:
Can u b kind to provide a link were i can get this. And will this root stock froyo 2.2
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954509
Probably, I think that's what my vib was on.

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