So I'm rooting my friends phone for him and planning to install villianrom.
So far ive rooted via zerg exploit.. All went well, after I downloaded ROM manager and install clock work recovery for "Samsung galaxy S 2". Rebooted into recovery and it took me into stock Android recovery, which of course means clockwork didn't install..
I've been doing some reading and it seems tho ppl install the tweaked kernel with root and recovery pre applied.. If there no way around going that route? I mean the phone is already rooted, can't I install clockwork some other way.
Also if I dont have any choice and have to go through the flashing pre rooted clockwork kernel through Odin. Suppose I install a ROM with a custom speed kernel, will I loose root and clock work since it's pre applied to the stockish kernel I flashed from Odin?
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So I'm rooting my friends phone for him and planning to install villianrom.
So far ive rooted via zerg exploit.. All went well, after I downloaded ROM manager and install clock work recovery for "Samsung galaxy S 2". Rebooted into recovery and it took me into stock Android recovery, which of course means clockwork didn't install..
ONCE more Rom Manager and CWM dont work on SGS2 .
I've been doing some reading and it seems tho ppl install the tweaked kernel with root and recovery pre applied.. If there no way around going that route? I mean the phone is already rooted, can't I install clockwork some other way.
No
Also if I dont have any choice and have to go through the flashing pre rooted clockwork kernel through Odin.
Suppose I install a ROM with a custom speed kernel,
Most roms have CWM anyway read the install instructions
will I loose root and clock work since it's pre applied to the stockish kernel I flashed from Odin?
No
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Not i9100 SGS2 then be wary of what you flash .
jje
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What is difference between original Android development and regular? Also phone is a bell gt-i9100m
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What is difference between original Android development and regular? Also phone is a bell gt-i9100m
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Original = built from sources. i.e. CyanogenMod for an example of a ROM, or Siyah for a kernel.
Regular = derivative from something else, i.e. many ROMs out there are usually derived from stock, with themes and such.
Just apply cf root specific to your phone base and flash it in the PDA section of Odin, it will re root your phone with cwm recovery, then place the villain from or from of your choice in the root of your SD card and flash it with cwm, any problems let me know
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Has anyone tried flashing clockworkmod using rom manager app? how was it composted to manual flash? Thanks.
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You cannot compost CWM .
Root and CWM post .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
ClockworkMod
CF-Root includes a custom version of CWM4. I always make custom versions, as the originals often do not take some Samsung specific things into account.
CF-Root/CWM4 is NOT compatible with ROM Manager! Manage/perform your backup/restores from CWM directly or using the CWM Manager application included with CF-Root
I'm sorry I don't know what you're saying. My phone is rooted already I only need to instal clockworkmod to install rom right? Please make it simple.
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I'm sorry I don't know what you're saying. My phone is rooted already I only need to instal clockworkmod to install rom right? Please make it simple.
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Make it simple if you root with CMW & Root you get Clockwork Mod thats the method most custom roms use .
Other methods not a clue .
jje
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You cannot compost CWM .
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Think jje might be saying keep it simple and use a kernel that has cwm. Chainfires cfroot kernels for instance.
Rom manager...why when you have cwm app already in cfroot.
Edit: like above post said. Cfroot is not compatible with Rom manager.
It's pretty simple.
Flash one of chainfires kernels with Odin. Now you have root and cwm accessible via up+home+power or cwm app.
Download the desired cwm installable package (eg Rom) to your internal sdcard.
Access cwm recovery mode like said above and follow the process EXACTLY as the instructions say in the thread where you downloaded the cwm installable package. Eg Rom
Hope this helps.
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Ahh you're making a sense. I thought my tech language was bad do iv can't understand JJ. Anyway thanks guys I'll try the manual way.
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THe thing I learned:
Never use ROM manager when using a ROM based on samsung firmware.
Use ROM manager when using AOSP ROM like CM7.
Here I am again guys, sorry to bother you with my quest to change rom.
OK, so I can't install cwm with Rom manager.
I've tried installing cwm using the cyanogenmod guide, with no success. It gave me this ''ERROR: Failed to access device. Libush error: -12"
At this point, I'm desperate to install any rom. So I tried to unroot then install a sercure kernel back in to update official firmware. Even that doesn't work. I can't install the secure kernel. I eneded up installing the insecure kernel just to get the phone to work. So please lead me to something that easy?
Install a CF-Root kernel via Odin.You get root and CWM all included so you can install ROMs and do whatever.Thats what people have been tryin to tell you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
As that's great I'll try it asap. This is what I want to see simple and direct, you even provide a link.thanks a bunch dude.
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That was just too easy and here I was trying every other method. That thread should be pinned to the first page. Thanks everyone.
So I rooted my GS2 and flashed the clockwork kernel using odin. I know that the forums have been saying not to use Rom manager to flash CW.
I know that I have working CWM on my phone.
My question is, does that only apply to the initial flash? I.e. using Rom manager to flash CWM updates or flashing again from Rom manager so I can download Roms from the app, since the app is unusable unless you flash CWM from the app itself.
Or, Is there any way around Rom manager telling me I have to flash CWM before I can do anything.
All help is appreciated. I would rather be safe than sorry, and I don't exactly have 650 bones to drop on another phone if I brick this.
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short answer is, dont use ROM manager. period.
Yet CM7 tells me to use Rom manager to install
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Don't use ROM manager on att sgs2.
Both cm7 threads in the development section (stable and nightly) have direct links to cm7 cwm installs for att sgs2.
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Only use ROM Manager if you want to potentially brick your phone
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so when (if) i flash to cm7 and i want to install GAPPS, where do i get them from if not from rom manager
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so when (if) i flash to cm7 and i want to install GAPPS, where do i get them from if not from rom manager
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from the same place you download the zip file for the rom.....
its literally RIGHT below the download link for the rom....on the CM7 thread, here on xda....
dont have to look too far
sorry, looked right over that. thanks for your help
Question on installing CWM, i already rooted my SGS2 by flashing insecure kernel from Odia for DXKL3 and rooting it then flashing back the original kernel. now i want to install CWM, I see a lot of guides and searched, all looks like that need to install a CWM enabled rom or use a kernel that is compatible with CWM, thats where the part i get confused since most of the guide points you to a diffrent kernel from the insecure kernel, cant you use the insecure kernel that odia posted specific for my DXKL3 and install CWM from market? and i dont want to install a custom ROM just for CWM it would defeat the purpose since i want to back up my stock firmware. And don't know if the CWM kernel is compatible with DXKL3.
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Do a search for cf-root (cant post link as im on my phone) any of them kernels will give you cwm recovery
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Go into the original development forum. Most of the kernels there have ClockWorkMod build in.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
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the cwm app just hooksinto the cwm features of a kernel.
No cwm kernel means no cwm i'm afraid, so you will never be able to use cwm to backup a stock install.
However, why not just use a cf-root kernel? all that differs between cf-root and stock is the root and the cwm so provided you get the kernel matched to your choice of firmware then you should have a perfectly stable and backupable system.
taking it sligtly further away from standard, if you flash the older bootloader you can then use a jig to get rid of the warning triangle. The only day to day difference you will notice over stock is the cwm app and the superuser app.
You could do a backup of the the original kernel first, then flash a cwm kernel and create a backup of the rom itself.
I could guide you through the process. You'd need adb and Odin/Heimdall working on your computer.
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Stock firmware or the branded providers rom posts and get a copy of your original firmware is the easy method .
jje
Hi, is there a completely stock kernel with root and CWM that I can flash with Odin, on my S2. I have seen a couple kernels but they have things like different boot animations, and different little tweaks but I just want stock ROM with root and CWM. I have never used Odin before, and was also wondering if rooting,and installing CWM with Odin is safer than using SuperOneClick, then using Odin to install CWM? Any help would be appreciated thanks.
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Hi, is there a completely stock kernel with root and CWM that I can flash with Odin, on my S2. I have seen a couple kernels but they have things like different boot animations, and different little tweaks but I just want stock ROM with root and CWM. I have never used Odin before, and was also wondering if rooting,and installing CWM with Odin is safer than using SuperOneClick, then using Odin to install CWM? Any help would be appreciated thanks.
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Stickies........
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RPK925 said:
Hi, is there a completely stock kernel with root and CWM that I can flash with Odin, on my S2. I have seen a couple kernels but they have things like different boot animations, and different little tweaks but I just want stock ROM with root and CWM. I have never used Odin before, and was also wondering if rooting,and installing CWM with Odin is safer than using SuperOneClick, then using Odin to install CWM? Any help would be appreciated thanks.
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1. stock kernel with root? Yes.
2. stock kernel with CwM (and root)? Probably yes.
Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285823
I have not personally gone with that option and I believe most of members here do not go with this option. So, I don't know if it works as expect or not.
3. custom kernel with CwM? Yes. So far in this room, there are 2 most popular custom kernels, Entropy's Daily Driver and Siyah kernel.
My phone is rooted now and few friends here gave me suggestions of siyah and some...i want to know if I can directly flash the rom from stock recovery mode..i downloaded ROM manager, but it only has clockwork mode and cyanogen i guess.. can i do that using siya?
You need CWRecovery on your phone (sounds like you used a root method that didn't involve using a kernel with CWM if you only have stock recovery). Best way to get it is to flash a kernel that has it built in - Siyah, Dorimanx, etc, etc. There's a number of them; search the development sections of the board. Once you've got CWM on, you'll be able to flash any rom you want.
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My phone is rooted now and few friends here gave me suggestions of siyah and some...i want to know if I can directly flash the rom from stock recovery mode..i downloaded ROM manager, but it only has clockwork mode and cyanogen i guess.. can i do that using siya?
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Siyah is a kernel, not a ROM. And no, you cannot flash a custom ROM from stock recovery. Search for rachmat3's rooting method and use that. Or flash the tar version of siyah or dorimanx via Odin.
ROM manager seems to have some issues with the S2. try to avoid using it as far as possible.
See which ROM you want to use. If it has the new Mali drivers use dorimanx 7.4 else use siyah 4.1.5
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My phone is rooted now and few friends here gave me suggestions of siyah and some...i want to know if I can directly flash the rom from stock recovery mode..i downloaded ROM manager, but it only has clockwork mode and cyanogen i guess.. can i do that using siya?
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Siyah is a kernel developed by gokhanmoral. ROM on the other hand is also called firmware, you can flash them both in clockworkmod recovery, but cannot be done in stock recovery.
As for ROM manager, I've seen people brick their phone using it, so just stick to flashing clockworkmod recovery.
ronak123456 said:
My phone is rooted now and few friends here gave me suggestions of siyah and some...i want to know if I can directly flash the rom from stock recovery mode..i downloaded ROM manager, but it only has clockwork mode and cyanogen i guess.. can i do that using siya?
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Don't use rom manager, unless you want an expensive brick.
And Rootbox with dorimax is a good combination you can check out
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Thnx for faster replies guys..i wont use rom manager but ive 2 times bricked my phone is because i tried to root my phone using cf root and using insecure kernal..i got stuck at triangle and it does not load..so wanted to confirm if its k..
Also as now i have root acess, what type of apps can i use like i want performance and graphics
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ronak123456 said:
Thnx for faster replies guys..i wont use rom manager but ive 2 times bricked my phone is because i tried to root my phone using cf root and using insecure kernal..i got stuck at triangle and it does not load..so wanted to confirm if its k..
Also as now i have root acess, what type of apps can i use like i want performance and graphics
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If you are using siyah kernel you can tweak the GPU steps and overclock your CPU using an app called ExTweaks. But note you are not going to get any serious performance boost, your machine tends to be what you have.