Hi,
do you have any official information, if the tablet s will get an update to android 4?
I found one webpage which says that this will happen, but an official statement would be better.
I really hope ICS comes to the tablet.
Hopeful, as it's coming to the Sony Ericsson Xperia phones
http://www.mobot.net/ice-cream-sandwich-coming-sony-ericsson-androids-31986
Absolutely no reason we wont get it since all sony phones from 2011 will get it...just a matter of when.
Sony will need time to customize 4.0 for the S's features. In that time we'll be seeing Tegra 3 updates to everyone's lines. Not sure Sony wouldn't be better off spending their time getting a Tegra3 S out with 4.0 on it.
Ok thanks.
I hope a Tegra 3 will not come in a month or so, because I want to buy mine today and don´t want to see a new version with tegra 3 in short time.
Unfortunately that's the game we play buying these devices; that best buy commercial was right when people buy a phone only to walk outside and see the billboard for the newer, better device.
I'm pretty positive the Tablet S will get ICS since Sony wants to bolster sales of their first official android tablet on the market. They'd definitely have some happy customers in here!
StarvinMarvin said:
Ok thanks.
I hope a Tegra 3 will not come in a month or so, because I want to buy mine today and don´t want to see a new version with tegra 3 in short time.
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the tablet is to new not to do it plus tegra 3 is just a beefier verison of tegra 2
If I remember correctly, Google said that ICS was a meld of Honeycomb (tablet only) and the the versions prior to Honeycomb (phone optimized). I believe ICS is similar to iOS in that both tablet and phone can run the same apps (where Honeycomb couldnt run phone apps). So most likely ICS will be coming to most devices (prolly 2010 and older) so all their apps can run on all ICS devices
You're right, it would be in everyone's benefit to put ICS on every device; however, they most likely will only do recent, dual-core phones and tablets because it's up to the manufacturers (HTC, Sony, Samsung) to incorporate ICS into their proprietary OS add-ons. If Sony is listening to its consumer base, however, they'll definitely update the Tablet S.
And yes, it's a way of merging phone and tablet OS's. It looks pretty much like honeycomb with some graphical tweaks and useability improvements.
I asked the same question in the Sony Forums. The mods there work with the engineers at Sony.
https://forum.sel.sony.com/viewtopic.php?f=109&t=11480
Show some interest and maybe we'll make it happen, sooner rather than later.
StarvinMarvin said:
Hi,
do you have any official information, if the tablet s will get an update to android 4?
I found one webpage which says that this will happen, but an official statement would be better.
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For what it's worth, Sony Style employees are confirming the upgrade. I would be more comfortable seeing an official announcement though.
ICS Is coming just can't say when, there will be a minor update this friday, then another one in December, i'd expect 4.0 in the new year though, maybe as late as March.
definitely. but the asus transformer prime doesnt bother me cause i had a transformer before and the quality is terrible.
I read that there definetly will be an Update to Android 4.0. I hope it will come at Christmas
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ICS Is coming just can't say when, there will be a minor update this friday, then another one in December, i'd expect 4.0 in the new year though, maybe as late as March.
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This seems the most likely expectation. ICS Source has only recently been released for manufacturers to impliment the code to their devices.
Q1 2012 I expect.
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Does anyone know when the tablet P will be released in Australia ? The Sony site only shows the S
Has the P been released anywhere ?
Will it have ICS on it by default ?
Also when is the 3G S going to be released
Thanks
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sony+tablet+p
It's on sale in the UK and should be other places soon, doesn't ship with ICS.
3G is also on the way.
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It's on sale in the UK and should be other places soon, doesn't ship with ICS.
3G is also on the way.
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Thanks unclespoon
I hope they release it in Australia soon as I really like the P design and want to get a real feel of it
I think Sony should provide some idea about if and when these devices will be upgraded to ICS
I had a chat conversation with Sony today and was told that Sony engineers were working with Google to bring ICS to the Sony Tablet S. I was overjoyed.
I could have told you that.... I'm anxious to start hearing actual dates.
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Hi Guys,
Now I am totally confused, another phone in 3 months that too with superior features than Xperia S !!!
I think I should wait now
Source:
http://www.itproportal.com/2012/03/08/iphone-4s-rival-alert-sony-release-another-superphone-june/
And you just confused even more people.
Or wait 2 years maybe even better phones will show!
If you go by the "Wait til this or this comes" with tech, you will never end up with a new phone I'm afraid.
I'm sure there's a bunch of better phones in the workings at the moment, but I chose this phone (and my X10, and even my X1) because I liked them when they were released, and didn't worry about next months phone.
Out technology is becoming more and more advanced, and company's are naturally trying to 1-up each other, so there will always be "something better coming".
In the end it's your decision though, but I chose to spend the next two years with this fantastic beast of a phone and I don't think I will regret it .
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Or wait 2 years maybe even better phones will show!
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no mate, actually I was just about to buy the xperia S on saturday from the current IT show in Singapore but this article !!!
I know phones will keep coming & I am really not interested in ant other brands..but there are certain things which are holding me:
1. Xperia Arc still looks good, better than Xperia S.
2. Camera also looks similar.
3. No physical buttons on Xperia S.
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no mate, actually I was just about to buy the xperia S on saturday from the current IT show in Singapore but this article !!!
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Hell no, why on earth buy from IT show when the outside shops are selling at 730 SGD???
NEVER buy anyhting from the SG IT show except harddrives and memory. Everything else is RRP.
I think now I will go for recontact, I am eligible for early renewal on 29th march.
Dont wait for this new phone you mentioned, because by the time that comes out something better will be announced and the cycle continues.
The whole reason why Sony fully bought over is to increase the release and production of new models. So I'm really surprised if another superphone will be out soon. They have a lot of catching up to do.
And I just bought my XPS from the IT Show yesterday. It comes with free media dock & the small square android display thingy(can't remember the name since it's at home). =D
I'm the type who usually buy the "other color" for SE phones but after I got the white XPS i kinda regret it. It looks like a toy. =x. So anyone who are going to buy their XPS, make sure you see the unboxed version before you choose your color. Cuz I can't change mine after they unboxed it or me.
PS: And there's an issue if you are using OSX. Cuz it didn't detect my XPS, although it works fine with Arc.
Still loving my Arc.
sent from xperia aRc !!
Well I just saw that there was indeed a new phone leaked.......
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_mt27i_pepper_shows_up_in_a_press_shot-news-3961.php
The pepper, but I'm not sure if it will be anything special or worth waiting for. This also has no rumored release date so far, but I'm curious about the rest of that line.
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Sony should've kept the Nozomi name instead of Xperia S.
The Xperia tag belongs to Ericsson and the stigma is still attached.
Plus Nozomi sounds badass.
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Well I just saw that there was indeed a new phone leaked.......
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_mt27i_pepper_shows_up_in_a_press_shot-news-3961.php
The pepper, but I'm not sure if it will be anything special or worth waiting for. This also has no rumored release date so far, but I'm curious about the rest of that line.
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This is not the phone people are referring to. They are referring to the Hayabusa LT29.
Hayabusa by June..
from xperiAwesome
Wait for the one in June...or wait..maybe not...wait for the one in september, but if you really want i would suggest to wait for the one in 2050 because that one will rule them all . Til then i bought this Xperia S magnific smartphone.
Blah blah. All we know - from GSMArena interview - they MAY release something new this year, just because digital world develops very fast. But Xperia S is the flagship and will be for some time. And I don't mean weeks.
Im not so sure about this new superphone coming this year, I believe I read somewhere that they won't release a quad-core this year because its currently not really useful as most apps don't even use dual-core to its full potential. I will see if I can dig up the article The S is the flagship this year and this hayabusa if it comes out is rumored to be the next Xperia play which had that codename. Rumors are rumors
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-might-not-release-quad-core-smartphones-this-year_id27551
If we are lucky, a S4 phone will be released (read play2 or hayabusa), but really I couldn't care less, I am more than happy with my S thank you
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Im not so sure about this new superphone coming this year, I believe I read somewhere that they won't release a quad-core this year because its currently not really useful as most apps don't even use dual-core to its full potential. I will see if I can dig up the article The S is the flagship this year and this hayabusa if it comes out is rumored to be the next Xperia play which had that codename. Rumors are rumors
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-might-not-release-quad-core-smartphones-this-year_id27551
If we are lucky, a S4 phone will be released (read play2 or hayabusa), but really I couldn't care less, I am more than happy with my S thank you
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Hayabusa will definitely resemble last year's product. Just not the PLAY
shmoejoe said:
Im not so sure about this new superphone coming this year, I believe I read somewhere that they won't release a quad-core this year because its currently not really useful as most apps don't even use dual-core to its full potential. I will see if I can dig up the article The S is the flagship this year and this hayabusa if it comes out is rumored to be the next Xperia play which had that codename. Rumors are rumors
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-might-not-release-quad-core-smartphones-this-year_id27551
If we are lucky, a S4 phone will be released (read play2 or hayabusa), but really I couldn't care less, I am more than happy with my S thank you
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Same here enjoying my Xperia S
Read in a few places the Hayabusa will probably be the successor to the Xperia play, if it is it will have a better screen resolution and probably quality then the PSVita, tho not sure if Sony would want to bring out something to compete with the Vita so soon.
-smc
Samsung Galaxy S III is a mighty beast? Agreed. Does it have the meanest specs? It does. Can it be upgraded to Android's latest when it comes? Might not be.
S III reviews are coming out and here's a quote from The Verge's review-
"One thing that goes consistently overlooked with respect to Samsung’s phones is the company’s ignominious track record with Android software updates. There may be worse offenders out there, but Samsung’s chronic failure to update its devices on time (or at all) is a significant black mark for a brand looking to lead the way in almost every other respect. Thus, as much as I may enjoy the Galaxy S III today, I have to temper that enthusiasm with the knowledge that its long-term future may not be as rosy as that of a stock Android device"
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/25/3042640/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review
The Galaxy S II ICS update hasn't come to India yet where Sony is almost ready to release ICS updates for their low-end range in a week, despite S II being a flagship. People in this forum are constantly doubting Sony's commitment to their customers. I don't know why but they should never. For a company which is willing to support the developer community for the greater good, nothing speaks more trust than that. So if you worried about the ICS update or future updates about your XPERIA S, never worry. Just wait for a couple of weeks more and you will get it.
So will you trust Sony?
i owned an xperia x10->ray and now xperia s.
the xps is a very good phone i can say is fantastic, i played some howers a go a game made by qualcomm it self (snapdragon) the game is Desert wind still in very very alpha and not even completed and i can say that game completly destroys all tegra 3 games i ever seen!
but lets be honest the galaxy s3 is a better phone in many aspects, is a newer high end phone is normal to be better, not only for the futures he comes with but for the hardware to, if i should buy a new phone right now i'll wait for the galaxy s 3!
No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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pshdo said:
No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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Even my X10 MP could run ICS. But that's marketing. It has been like that and always will be.
Xperia for life..
Sony simply love the aftermarket developers, users need.
They are social company, not some kind of competitor like apple or samsung, they aiming only for money..
Sony aim also on money, but taking in mind care of users, satisfaction of user, being reliable, accepting if they mistake in something (arc case, xperia s screen) and wiling to repair it for free...
what do you need more?
great phone poor support
i cant think of many reasons, and i have the xperia s,
it has a better screen (ppi) and i prefer the look of the xperia s, when ics comes to the xperia s i might be able to find more however with the s3 having a much larger battery, current reviews(benchmarks) say it has twice the standby time of the htc one x,
although samsung have fallen in the update area, sony have been far from good with theres with something as small as firmware and ics, three, tmobile and orange have all released there version of the .73 firmware to fix the battery drain issue and there is no generic version released as yet and wont be for some weeks, i developed the yellow tint on my first xperia s and had to wait 6 weeks for my phone to be returned, not sure what samsung are like at this but from my point of view i paid £400 for as phone that went dead after 42 days !!!! i should have had a replacement set to me not a repair
then there is ics which has a big stamp on the box saying its upgradable, the one x comes out with it, the 2011 range get it and still another month or two wait for there so called flagship to recieve the update when samsung s2 recieved the upgrade before sony got it to the 2011 range aswell,
sony were once the best in the market but now there one of the worst for it,
as much as i love the phone to pieces and wouldnt swap it for anything else on the market at the moment the support from sony and the timely updates are appalling,
i even had a chat with sony support and asked when the 73 firmware update will be released for generic uk users and his response was "do you mean ics" further training needed too i think,
plus on the xperia s
screen
camera
playstation certified
panorama 3d photos,
hdmi support
styling (see thru cap at bottom is a very good touch esp in a dark room/club)
plus on the samsung
processor
lte version to be released
additional micro sd slot ( i know 32gb is enough but what about when you want to print photos direct from the phone in store) micro sd does come in handy
ics already pre installed,
better browsing due to ics
better multitaksing due to ics the list can go on
when xperia s gets ics i still think the xperia s will be the better phone as you dont need a quad core nowadays but it has to be listed as a pro for the s3, i doubt you will get the use of it for another year or so until some advanced apps come out,
pshdo said:
No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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The Samasung track record for updating is much much worse than Sony. Sony is one of the best when it comes to updating for Android. Also I would rather have them wait and release an almost perfect version than push out a crummy one. Go test the HTC One series which have lag issues in ICS and you will see what I mean.
pshdo said:
No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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You should try owning a Motorola if you think Sony have done you a disservice.
Fanboi threads are fail. Sony lost alot of good will with the fiasco that was the x10. Samsung ran rings around them and to be fair, and speaking as an S user, they still do. Updates? Sony vs Samsung? It's a no brainer. The S2 didn't get to where it is by shoddy after market support, quite the contrary. If it wasn't for the vast number of pissed off customers the x10 would still be running 2.1. Sony lovers devs? The lols just keep coming. All the aftermarket devs have done has been to show just how incompetent Sony are, how they try to hoodwink their less tech savvy customers by spinning utter bull**** about hardware limitations etc... And the list goes on. 3 months down the line im still waiting to be able to have some fun with my S. Silly me, should have held on to my brilliant S2 and waited for a proper phone by a manufacturer that knows how to please the masses.
Well, I would never, ever consider the Xperia S over the S3. Never. Xperia S in my opinion is a competitor of the GNex. S3? No.
The Hayabusa will be that phone.
And about the updates, remember that Carriers are the biggest problem, specially in these cases of "not in my country!"
And didn't Sony just said they won't update the Xperia Play? I mean, seriously?
lol where is the update for the original flagship arc? They updated the mid end neo V and ray but not the arc how wonderful!! And did you hear they cancelled the update for the xperia play despite "promising" it?
Wait wait where is the update for the xperia S for that matter? Are you even serious making this topic? So what if the S2 update hasnt reached india yet? It's pretty simple to put another country firmware, you really dont need indian firmware just because one lives in india. There is hardly any difference.
Samsung has bad support for their mid end and low end phones yes thats true but it doesnt apply in the slightest bit to their flagship. The galaxy S was one of the first phones after nexus S to get gingerbread. Galaxy S wasnt updated to ICS but neither was any other phone from it's time.
It's unfortunate that the Xperia PLAY won't get ICS, but it's down to issues with the gamepad and changes in ICS - which would ultimately require most Xperia PLAY optimised games to be modified.
I think Sony realised that this was not practical and had to make a tough decision. Yes, it does mean they can no longer claim to be upgrading every single 2011 model - but one exception is still pretty good compared to all of those HTC, Samsung, LG and Motorola models released in 2011 that won't get updates (contrary to popular belief, Samsung did release more than the Note and Galaxy S II last year!).
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It's unfortunate that the Xperia PLAY won't get ICS, but it's down to issues with the gamepad and changes in ICS - which would ultimately require most Xperia PLAY optimised games to be modified.
I think Sony realised that this was not practical and had to make a tough decision. Yes, it does mean they can no longer claim to be upgrading every single 2011 model - but one exception is still pretty good compared to all of those HTC, Samsung, LG and Motorola models released in 2011 that won't get updates (contrary to popular belief, Samsung did release more than the Note and Galaxy S II last year!).
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If you cut down the SGSII variants that are a problem of the carriers, the number of devices goes down.
Plus, they should be working in the update of the Xperia S even before it's release. I dunno why they did this the way they did. They screwed up big time IMO.
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It's unfortunate that the Xperia PLAY won't get ICS, but it's down to issues with the gamepad and changes in ICS - which would ultimately require most Xperia PLAY optimised games to be modified.
I think Sony realised that this was not practical and had to make a tough decision. Yes, it does mean they can no longer claim to be upgrading every single 2011 model - but one exception is still pretty good compared to all of those HTC, Samsung, LG and Motorola models released in 2011 that won't get updates (contrary to popular belief, Samsung did release more than the Note and Galaxy S II last year!).
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HTC is updating most of it's phones as well, even the desire HD which was launched in 2010!! You cant expect them to update something like the wildfire S with a 600mhz CPU and 512MB ROM. The minimum xperia phone getting updated is 1Ghz CPU and 1GB ROM.
Samsung did mess up yes but not on their flagship, do you even know the S2 has started shipping with ICS out of the box? The verge reviewer has no idea what he is talking about.
I never recommend the cheaper samsung phones to anyone but to try to put the S3 in a negative spot because of how samsung treats it's cheaper phones is ridiculous.
http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s_ii_in_india_is_now_shipping_with_android_40_ics-news-4273.php
The reviewer of The Verge is the guy who got his heart broken by Samsung in the release of the S3.
I'm just pleased to see that he did gave a 0 to the phone.
Another plus for the S3, the dev support it will have will likely be unprecedent. It's already the most preordered gadget in history (sure, the number is much higher than the real purchases because some people have pre ordered different collors and memory amount just to be safe).
Motorola sucks. I hope that with it's new CEO things will change there and they get back on the right track of producing great phones. My Motorola Milestone (2009) is able to run CM9 with it's OMAP3 550mhz (overclocked at 1ghz) and 256mb of RAM, pretty impressive for a device with a locked bootloader, IMO.
I agree with you that Xperia S is better, but your reason isn't right. The thing is everyone's impressed with the s3's specs like qead-core processor although it is something you definitely don't need these days. You will never get to a point when a dual-core will not be enough for ANY kind of software. Moreover, xperia S' camera is better and has faster processor.
Long story short, Samsung is putting a lot of effort on over mighty specifications you don't need, maybe just for the once who compare it to the S by specs only. The ICS delay is annoying I must say, but it is not that terrible.. Another month is not THAT much.
Xperia S is sexy, awesome display and camera, and very fast. Sony is my choice.
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You will never get to a point when a dual-core will not be enough for ANY kind of software. Moreover, xperia S' camera is better and has faster processor.
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They said the same thing about 1Ghz single core CPU's, they always say xyz will always be enough forever but it is never the case. The biggest limitation of xperia S is actually the GPU which really could have been better for 720p resolution. 1.5Ghz dual core CPU and 1GB ram would not cause any issues for a long time.
Xperia S camera is not better just because it has more megapixels. I would think the camera is just about equal on both, the great feature the xperia S has is camera button.
And xperia has faster processor? lol wut?
pshdo said:
No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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Did Samsung Galaxy S get ICS? And mind u, Samsung sold a butt load of those.
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To a few people here, easy guys. Let's have a constructive discussion and not a bashing one. I for one am not a Sony representative and am quite an objective gadget lover - have many devices including an iPod touch (because I love Apple's OS fluidoty), a Galaxy S2, the Xperia S and the Ray. It makes sense to love everything
Now to the point I wanted to make. Companies should sometimes care about customers too. The fact that X10 got 2.3 is huge. Do you remember Samsung's first galaxy having anything more than 1.6? Do you remember the HTC Hero with more than 2.1? Sony never left these customers in the lurch. Asking for ICS when you bought the X10 is like wishing for lifetime ice-cream supply.
I will tell you another case which I think everybody should know. Samsung quietly replaced the S2 I9100 with I9100G a couple of months ago in the Indian market. What do you say is all the fuss eh? The chipset inside is not a dual-core Exynos or Mali GFX chipset. It's replaced by Cortex A9 and PowerVR SGX540. The processor was underclocked. The GPU was inferior. Asked Samsung on Twitter and they said that chipsets have been replaced but they have similar performance. Benchmarks around the world suggested otherwise. So is Samsung being very clever? Would you like to buy something that is a lie and a false promise in the first place? They just released this model in developing markets because there was a Exynos shortage for European markets so they realised why not fool the mindless buyers of lowly markets!
And I have one question at the end of this - WOULD YOU HAVE ACCEPTED SUCH MANIPULATIVE MARKET PRACTICES?
Sent from my wonderful Xperia S
Hardware debate again. The only valid argument for GSIII is its hardware.
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Obviously we don't know that they won't announce that they too are rolling out a final version of Jellybean to their flagship devices, but based on previous trackrecord, it's extremely unlikely.
What baffles me, is Sony have the huge ambitions about being a big mobile supplier (it's top of their strategy), yet constantly mess things up. Sansung have been creating press by leaking Jellybean builds for the GalaxyS3, which clearly has a positive PR, without any of the liabilities of official releasing, and the talk is official arrives next week.
http://www.androidcentral.com/yet-another-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-build-leaks-unpacked-event-looms
Yet with Sony, just a wall of silence, they havn't even annouced if the Xperia S is going to get it...
Shocking.
Based on previous track record, its unlikely? I don't know what you are talking about.
Sony released ICS for single core 1GHz devices while other companies like Samsung and HTC opted not to. Yes, it took longer for them to update their flagship models but that is because they are updating the others.
The Galaxy S did not get ICS, yet the original Arc did, and Sony released more handsets than Samsung in 2011, so surely Sony did better?
Did you read the post on JBQ's (AOSP technical lead) Google Plus in which he said that Sony were the best OEM for updates? I am sure you didn't.
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First: Samsung is not very developer comunity friendly compared with Sony (Bootloader liberation, HAL sensors, FW open sources)
Second: Sony said JB will be, when? dont know...
Third: K900 said Sony was working on some JB APIs and some other things, so, they are working on it.
Im very happy about this.
I would not have bought a Galaxy S3 under any circumstances, i dont like the design or build and i find the use of a quad core processor dubious for anything other than bragging rights (im not even convinced of the merits of a dual core processor in a phone if im honest)
I wouldn't mind a less buggier version of ICS for my XS but i aint going to lose any sleep cos the S3 is getting JB or any other version of Android.
By the way, forgot to say something.
Ever heard of MMC_CAP_ERASE or something like that? It was present in leaks in the kernel, and it caused corruption of data when wiping. I can't give you the specifics but it was responsible for many bricks.
There's also touchwiz, which is buggy, and slows down the system, and just looks horrible, something a child would find appealing.
So, with Samsung you get buggy kernels and horrible UI, I have not yet had any of these problems with Sony.
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i support keiran on every single post on this to be honest. NO other manufacturer updated their entire 2011 line to ICS(except the xp play for understandable reasons). So it is no wonder that Samsung is fast at updating their ONLY flagship for 2012, please type the following in the command line: adb enable brain.img
oh ye , almost forgot, my girlfriends galaxy S3 is fast yea, but it's buggy as hell, internet dropout for like a whole day(even when rebooting or removing the battery), sometimes really laggy touchwiz launcher and apps.
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and I really want the bugfix update they are preparing for next week(hope so ) so we have a nice, clean and fast ICS on our XPS(like GB was).
I've only experienced good things with Sony (Ericsson.) Back when I had the X10 they said they wont update it to GB and yet they did. This alone should show that they care about their costumers. It's true tho that they are a bit slower with OS updates, yet we receive them a lot more bugfree then Samsung (at least I didnt notice anything bad with the XP ICS update.)
I'm talking about much wider impressions that the people here. Everywhere I look, people have Samsung Android phones. Sony are nowhere. They talk about wanting to be up there, but are slow to update, slow to annouce their plans. Consumers won't wait, if they need a phone, they will get the one with the latest Android, or the one that they PERCEIVE to be updated the most. The company that releases the first non-Nexus device with Jellybean will be what the tech press all talk about, and that's what tech shoppers remember.
I couldn't care less about the GS3 getting Jellybean to be frank. I don't like any Samsung device. So nope, I don't regret and will never regret getting the XS
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I couldn't care less about the GS3 getting Jellybean to be frank. I don't like any Samsung device. So nope, I don't regret and will never regret getting the XS
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I do like the Galaxy S3 very much tbh it's smooth, fast at doing anything I want, the XPS just has the problem of a not that good ICS update till now, as apps are really slow sometimes, and the mutlitasking is literally f***** up. I've had CM9 on here and the difference in speed is just impressive.
Jelly Bean isn't all that special. You lose flash and gain a bit of speed and better notifications. And Google Now (which is sort of useless outside the US/UK). Big deal.
If you want updates, fast, and reliable, get a nexus. Problem solved.
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Jelly Bean isn't all that special. You lose flash and gain a bit of speed and better notifications. And Google Now (which is sort of useless outside the US/UK). Big deal.
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But some of us are in the UK!
ANY update at all will be met with open arms, with hopes that we can delete that email for the LAST TIME!!
Sony? Poor track record? You have gotta look over the stats. In fact, they are still improving ICS performance for the whole 2011 lineup when they weren't supposed to do either of it. Sony is now a company which honors its customers by being open to the developer community and working with them for the best of releases. In fact if it weren't for Sony taking the first move, you would still have restricted dev support for Samsung and HTC (they still have limited support too). I bought my dad an S3 and everyday I look at it, I think it is not going to get Android's next version Key Lime Pie whereas the Xperia S gives me the confidence and the hope that it might get the version after Key Lime Pie too. Its the trust which only Sony can replicate. My brother is using his Ray with ICS and believe me, if its honesty and loyalty you talk about, it is Sony. I would rather wait longer than face backstabbing by buying a flagship now and then see it ditched because a better model came in the market (that is why Samsung is making huge profits, by following an Apple style)
WTF
Man....here is the Xperia`s forum!why the hell do we talk about SGS3 or other s#@it like that???
This forum is meant to post our theaks/mods/roms or other stuff like that that will improve our devices performance!!!
so...why...for the love of got we talk about other things like "samsung sgs3 will get jelly bean next week" or "sold my xperia s and bought a samsung nexus"...good for you that you sold/buy another phone,and good bye!see you at the forum dedicated to the device that you bought!!!
wht are the moderators do???
Why talking S3 here? Fanboy smells
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The S3 has been released by Samsung very close to the presentation of Jelly Bean (June 27). People buying a 699€ phone, i.e. the most expensive phone, would expect at least it has the cutting edge technology in the android scene. But since June 27 the S3 has not been the most updated phone, just considering the sw side. Thus, Samsung had to hurry and realease JB as soon as possible.
People who have bought the XS perfectly know that their phone is an excellent compromise between cost, quality, performance and design. But they do not expect XS to be the best of all.
Out please Sammy Boi..
Also They just update flagships.. did u see ace 2 get ics? no! s advanced? no! s? no!!
You see Sammy Boi?
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Obviously we don't know that they won't announce that they too are rolling out a final version of Jellybean to their flagship devices, but based on previous trackrecord, it's extremely unlikely.
What baffles me, is Sony have the huge ambitions about being a big mobile supplier (it's top of their strategy), yet constantly mess things up. Sansung have been creating press by leaking Jellybean builds for the GalaxyS3, which clearly has a positive PR, without any of the liabilities of official releasing, and the talk is official arrives next week.
http://www.androidcentral.com/yet-another-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-build-leaks-unpacked-event-looms
Yet with Sony, just a wall of silence, they havn't even annouced if the Xperia S is going to get it...
Shocking.
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Don't repress yourself. Go buy a GSIII.
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I think this thread should closed
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Yes, no or maybe
Moderator Edit
Some members seem to feel we the moderators have been some what heavy handed in our dealing with these types of threads so I have decided I will reopen this thread for discusion I emphasize DUSCUSION. I expect people to remain civil with each other. If anyone starts flaming other members or this turns into a SONY SUCKS COES I GOTZ NO JB we will shut it down in a heartbeat.
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with my heart yes, but with my head NO.
so I guess i'm begging to be a guy with a " head on his shoulders"
Maybe...
I really like the Sony hardware, but the slow update cycles (Jellybean March 2013 - Really?) are making we regret buying the Xperia S. I am seriously thinking of selling it and buying a Nexus 4 instead.
The only thing that might change that decision right now, is an official ASOP Jellybean release by Sony/Google. However the ASOP tree looks dead, with no activity for ages.
Thinking that Sony have thrown in the towel with the XPeria S.
Only if it is a Sony Nexus device as it would probably be the best looking device with fastest and most up to date software.
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No never
Sony stops updates for older devices and expects us to purchase their new models
My xu 2012 released has no announcements regarding jelly bean
Bt that crap Xperia j will b updated
Why? Bcoz it was released recently
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No never
Sony stops updates for older devices and expects us to purchase their new models
My xu 2012 released has no announcements regarding jelly bean
Bt that crap Xperia j will b updated
Why? Bcoz it was released recently
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That's life. Xperia U is an entry level phone, it was released with Gingerbread, and got an ICS update. Show me another manufacturer that bothers to update the base OS on their entry level phones.
I dun consider a phone priced at 16000 to b entry level
Its a mid range
And it was released in may 2012 when all other major manufacturers were shipping wid ics on board
So getting released wid 2.3 was a negative aspect of SONY as this phone was considered to b a NXT phone
So ics was mandatory for it
Bt it got just a single official update ( which logically it should have been shipped wod)
U can call galaxy mini, htc explorer, sony xperia tipo to b entry level as they are priced below 10000INR
@the admins,
When I can't have my Sony love thread due to possible flaming then this thread might not be a good idea either.
@the thread,
My heart is with Sony. My ICS is perfect and when I get JB in the same quality I will buy again.
Another important point for me stays the support of CM. actually that's more important to me than official JB.
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No. This phone has good ideas, but fails in the execution.
ICS for Sola in September 2012. Really? When I brought a new phone, I expected an upgrade, or at least ICS --> ICS. Not ICS --> GB.
Floating touch is, again, a good idea. But it is fairly useless and is impossible to type with.
Given the price of the Nexus 4, not a chance of me buying Sony again.
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Maybe...
I really like the Sony hardware, but the slow update cycles (Jellybean March 2013 - Really?) are making we regret buying the Xperia S. I am seriously thinking of selling it and buying a Nexus 4 instead.
The only thing that might change that decision right now, is an official ASOP Jellybean release by Sony/Google. However the ASOP tree looks dead, with no activity for ages.
Thinking that Sony have thrown in the towel with the XPeria S.
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who said that the JB will appear in march ?
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Given the price of the Nexus 4, not a chance of me buying Sony again.
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Yes, how much will it cost?
"The 8GB version (unlocked) is priced at $299, while the 16GB version is $349. T-Mobile USA will carry the 16GB LG Nexus 4, though with a price of $199 and a 2-year contract, it doesn't sound like much of a deal.
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Not a chance. I told myself the same thing after my X10 but was foolishly drawn in by the XS (no patience). I will never buy another Sony phone again. Apart from the awful update cycle this phone has become utterly boring and ICS has made it very buggy. You should be able to get £150-200 for this phone so only pay ~£100 on top for the 16Gb Nexus. Can't wait!
Sony always stays a generation behind.
When others release quad core phones it releases dual core.
Besides the buttons if my neo v worn off within three months
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only if they start sticking bigger batteries on their phones.
Sony used to pride itself on battery performance on their portable devices in the 90s, now their phones can hardly match the Battery longevity of a cheapo Chinese brand phone.
They also need to do something about their updates, the galaxy s3 and HTC one x both launched after the s and both are already officially running jelly bean.
They should release 1 or 2 flagships per year and put all their resources to make sure they are kept up to date for at least 1.5 years with no delays pushing out updates.
I think I might get the n4 and see if Sony get their shtt together before supporting them again.
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Yes, how much will it cost?
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UK is £239 for 8GB and £279 for 16GB. My Xperia S cost me £420.
MrBelter said:
Given the price of the Nexus 4, not a chance of me buying Sony again.
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Same here
Nexus 4 will beat the hell out of all
nemer12 said:
who said that the JB will appear in march ?
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I was being conservative, it may be later.
The 2012 phones are all still 6 months away from getting Jellybean on them, according to Sony.
For now, AOKP on my S is fine but as soon as the Nexus 4 lands here in Germany, I'll leave Sony for good.
I really like this tablet (all but the light bleed and the lack of a good charger, with the latter being not really a big deal) and am still planning on getting one as soon as they're back in stock next year IF the light bleed is fixed in the next batch. But, after seeing the news yesterday.about the Motorola/Google Flagship X devices (Phone and subsequent tablet), I'm really tempted to wait for that tablet seeing as it will also be a Nexus device and have Motorola's awesome build quality (After my first Nokia brick phone way back in the day, every device I owned after was Motorola, and I love their build quality.) I know for sure I'll get the phone since my 2 year will probably be up on my Nexus by that time, but I may also wait for that tablet.
Anyone else who's been waiting to buy the N10 feeling the desire to wait it out a bit longer?
I do, but not because of the x tablet, I am not a big fan of Motorola so. But I think I will wait until CES 2013 and see if there's anything worth waiting for, if not I'm not even sure about Nexus 10 anymore, Samsung's Note 10.1 seems like a better choice somehow.
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I do, but not because of the x tablet, I am not a big fan of Motorola so. But I think I will wait until CES 2013 and see if there's anything worth waiting for, if not I'm not even sure about Nexus 10 anymore, Samsung's Note 10.1 seems like a better choice somehow.
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I'm not completely unimpressed with Samsung's build quality, and I love my Galaxy Nexus, but I just like Motorola's better.
I'm also hoping to see something that excites me at CES, but I won't have anything but a Nexus device. I want something that I know developers will be paying attention to and not some off the wall device that might get one or two custom ROMs.
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I'm not completely unimpressed with Samsung's build quality, and I love my Galaxy Nexus, but I just like Motorola's better.
I'm also hoping to see something that excites me at CES, but I won't have anything but a Nexus device. I want something that I know developers will be paying attention to and not some off the wall device that might get one or two custom ROMs.
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I understand, I've used Motorola several years ago before the smartphone era and they were some really good phones, but there's no other brand I would prefer but Samsung when it comes to phones, and I'm leaning that way for the tablets as well.
And totally, I'm actually looking forward to see Samsung's new announcement which it's most likely going to be a reveal for S 4, but still I'll wait to see if it isn't a new tablet that could be worth waiting for. And that Samsung Note 10.1 is really tempting me lol.
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I really like this tablet (all but the light bleed and the lack of a good charger, with the latter being not really a big deal) and am still planning on getting one as soon as they're back in stock next year IF the light bleed is fixed in the next batch. But, after seeing the news yesterday.about the Motorola/Google Flagship X devices (Phone and subsequent tablet), I'm really tempted to wait for that tablet seeing as it will also be a Nexus device and have Motorola's awesome build quality (After my first Nokia brick phone way back in the day, every device I owned after was Motorola, and I love their build quality.) I know for sure I'll get the phone since my 2 year will probably be up on my Nexus by that time, but I may also wait for that tablet.
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Who knows when it will actually be released, much less if the rumor is true. I'm sure good things will come from Motorola eventually but probably not for another year. If Motorola comes out with a mind bogglingly good tablet then I'll sell the Nexus 10 and grab it...I'm not going to hold my breath though.
Honestly, I can put up with the Nexus 10 not being perfect because its a Nexus device and I can build the OS from source, I know it will be supported for a good while, and its damned fast for browsing.
I've had 4 different tablets in the last year or so...none of them were perfect.
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Two variables:
What gets announced in January & if the N10 is fixed in the next batch
Those two things will decide where my $500 goes
I love my n10 but I'll definitely be following the x tablet.
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What gets announced in January
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The challenge in waiting for "_________" is that by the time it hits the market there's already been a leak about the better "__________" that may be on the horizon (which we know moves). Asus announced the TF700 in January 2012 and it wasn't available for purchase until July. Samsung announced the Note 10.1 in February 2012, redesigned it after it was shown, and it launched in August. The N10 cleared the FCC in August and just recently was made available for purchase. Moral of the story: buy what you like now, take good care of it so you can resell it for a decent price, and buy what's "new" when it's at least up for pre-order. When leaks come out about products in development with nothing but design direction there's usually a long wait until they actually hit the market (EG: whatever Motorola's theorizing). When you start to see component leaks and shots by Mr. Blurry Cam that means it's closer but can still mean months.
I might depending what its like but im not a fan of Motorola so i doubt it will be something attractive.
From what I've read, the X devices are not part of the Nexus brand, they're 100% Motorola. Don't expect stock Android and direct updates from Google- or, well, now that Moto is part of Google, I mean direct updates from the Android team.
Nope... because every article States the thing silk probably not be out for a year or two. Wonder if x though is like nexus. The x is the prominent letter and even the bout animation logo. I've been waiting for Google to do something with Motorola for awhile. Google could rectify their horrible business plan easy. Now that Samsung is owning the market with android products and has made Asus a tablet leader outside Apple, I think it is now safe for them to throw their own subsidiary a bone and make a nice Google Motorola device. Might be to late on the end though.
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From what I've read, the X devices are not part of the Nexus brand, they're 100% Motorola. Don't expect stock Android and direct updates from Google- or, well, now that Moto is part of Google, I mean direct updates from the Android team.
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I doubt they would waste an opportunity like that.
For all we know it will be called the NexusX.
I'm just glad I bought a device that will stand against several next best things in the future.
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wireroid said:
From what I've read, the X devices are not part of the Nexus brand, they're 100% Motorola. Don't expect stock Android and direct updates from Google- or, well, now that Moto is part of Google, I mean direct updates from the Android team.
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This. Ask any owner of an Atrix (myself), Photon or Electrify. They'll tell you just how great #motofail is in terms of software updates. You get ONE. Better hope your device ships with the latest version of the OS, because otherwise you just get bumped to the next major revision instead of anything near what is considered current and suddenly you're screwed, even if they promise you otherwise. The lack of proper kernel source means custom roms are unlikely to completely save you as well.
Still planning on getting my N10 in early January. If a more reputable company like Samsung were to announce something like the rumored X, I'd wait. But @#$%^ no for Motofail.
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The challenge in waiting for "_________" is that by the time it hits the market there's already been a leak about the better "__________" that may be on the horizon (which we know moves). Asus announced the TF700 in January 2012 and it wasn't available for purchase until July. Samsung announced the Note 10.1 in February 2012, redesigned it after it was shown, and it launched in August. The N10 cleared the FCC in August and just recently was made available for purchase. Moral of the story: buy what you like now, take good care of it so you can resell it for a decent price, and buy what's "new" when it's at least up for pre-order. When leaks come out about products in development with nothing but design direction there's usually a long wait until they actually hit the market (EG: whatever Motorola's theorizing). When you start to see component leaks and shots by Mr. Blurry Cam that means it's closer but can still mean months.
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+1
Anyone who tries to stay on the bleeding edge of a rapidly moving technology will be in this situation perpetually. Something better is always on the horizon. At some point you have to pull the trigger, even though something better has been announced, and may or may not be right around the corner. I tend to be an early adopter of generational improvements (A15 and super high res screen in the N10). There will be better devices in this category, but by the time you wait for the "perfect" device, the next generational improvement will be right around the corner. Until you accept this reality, you'll always have buyers remorse.
I wouldn't touch motorola with a 10 foot pole after the crappy end of life support debacle like the atrix 4g. This might be an exception since google will back it up. Never again Motorola!!!!
Per WSJ, X tablet will be after X phone, so it'll be a while.
The more interesting bit was that Viewdle (face-rec) should be incorporated, so we should see some aspect of AR in 5.0 release. Niche uses aside, AR hasn't had any wide application in an OS. AR would be Glass' main ace.
Though, I think 5.0's over-arching theme will be TV integration. Apple is making noises, and MS will intro X720. Goog can't afford to fall behind. Miracast should play a large part, not only to leverage TVs as big displays, but for tabs to act as 2nd screen.
Frankly, tablet hardware bores me now. It's MOTS. What's interesting are wearables, and Glass is supposed to make its debut in 2013. You can bet that both MS and Apple are burning the midnight oil on their own skunkwork response.
Depending on how versatile wearables (eye-top?) will be, the tablet may hit the skids as quickly as it got on. I'm thinking 2013 for the coming-out, and one or two years for the first retail product.
I personally will wait for a Nexus device with Miracast. I really hope the N10 will get Miracast after all...
It's either the Nexus 10 for me or a Quad core A15 / Nvidia tegra 4 tablet. Hope they get announced at CES/MWC
I don't do enough gaming to need a beefed-up graphics chip in the SoC in my tablet, so for me the Nexus 10 works fine. I'm a graduate student, so much of what I do is just reading PDFs, books, and magazines. I listen to music and watch YouTube, neither of which will be necessarily improved with a faster SoC. The screen on my Nexus 10 is brilliant and I couldn't be happier with what this tablet does for my needs. Plus, Samsung > Motorola. I know I may be in the minority here, but this thing is a Nexus, and it's made by Samsung, two things that I look for in a device.