So is there anything to this battery pull? I tried it for my i777 yesterday since I was confounded as to why goSMSpro & the stock web browser wouldn't close/exit when I hit the back button all the way until I ended up on the homescreen. They still showed up as active in the Samsung Task Manager widget.
Also, when I tried running the Speedtest app it was getting a weird error wherein no data would transfer and so I hit the home button (NOT the back button) and I saw the task manager turn red and upon entering the Active tasks, it shows that the Speedtest app was using 42.7% CPU
So I closed the app from inside teh task manager widget and decided that it would be best to do a battery pull. Upon donig a battery pull and then waiting approximately 30 seconds, I powered on and was very surprised to see that my battery usage is not reset?
If I'd done a battery pull on my T-Mo G1, it would've "forgotten" what my battery usage was to that point.
Very surprised that a battery pull does not equal a battery reset...if that makes sense.
I think what you're referring to is the battery usage stats. To my knowledge they only reset after charging because they are currently displaying what your usage up to this point has been on the current charge.
yeah, i think they'll reset once you charge your phone to 100%
ZeroIsntTheHero said:
I think what you're referring to is the battery usage stats. To my knowledge they only reset after charging because they are currently displaying what your usage up to this point has been on the current charge.
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yeah, i think they'll reset once you charge your phone to 100%
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Thank you both! I was really shocked to see that the phone somehow remembered my battery usage even after pulling the battery. My G1 could NEVER do that! LOL -- anytime I pulled the battery, that was that. Of course, that phone is ancient by today's standards.
Either of you guys have trouble with the stock browser or stock messenger (or goSMSPro) not closing/exiting when you hit Back > Back > Back to Homescreen? These two still stay in the Task Manager and I can't figure out if they're supposed to? I thought ALL apps closed when you backed all the way out of them?
the task manager will show it as in memory because you just used it and thats normal. Android OS will kill the process when it needs that memory for other things.
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the task manager will show it as in memory because you just used it and thats normal. Android OS will kill the process when it needs that memory for other things.
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Thanks for the info nyydynasty. Yeah, I read up on how Android OS keeps the apps "suspended" I guess is the term I'm looking for here. But I thought the proper way to close out of an app was to either do one of the following three things:
1. Click on the menu button from within the application and (assuming there is an exit option), click 'Exit'
2. Hit Home > click on the samsung task manager widget and then click Exit on the app you want to close or click on 'Exit All'
3. From whatever app you're in > continue to press on the 'Back' capacitative button until you find yourself back on the homescreen.
Now, I understand if I have the messenger or stock web browser app open and I just click the home button to land me back on the homescreen then the apps should appear w/in the task manager widget.
However, since I'm "backing all the way out" shouldn't they close?
it depends on how that particular app is programmed. Some apps allow you to simply hit 'back' and it will exit, while others require you to exit from its in-app menu. if you hit 'home', the app does not close but if you go to the task manager and exit from that menu, it will force it shut.
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it depends on how that particular app is programmed. Some apps allow you to simply hit 'back' and it will exit, while others require you to exit from its in-app menu. if you hit 'home', the app does not close but if you go to the task manager and exit from that menu, it will force it shut.
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Correct but the stock web browser and stock messenger being that they're STOCK part of the framework, I would fully expect them to close out when I back out all the way.
Ugh, gonna have to try this with the wife's phone. I wanted to last night but she'd just plugged it to charge it in.
Could you do me a favor and try opening up your stock web browser and going to any site or bookmark you may have and then backing out all the way to see if it closes.
My concern is that something somewhere went wonky on me and I'd like to know before I do a factory reset/restore.
Thank you!
even after hitting the back button it does not fully close on the messenger or the browser, but if you let it sit for a while, it will close itself out.
just let android take care of it for you, and stop worrying about it. only worry if you start getting absolutely terrible battery life. the only thing that i have that will not stop running is freaking words with friends. i have to close that via task manager every time. everything else takes care of itself
as pirate said, dont worry about how the OS handles the memory. The browser stays dormant while not in use and so does the messaging app.
Pirateghost said:
even after hitting the back button it does not fully close on the messenger or the browser, but if you let it sit for a while, it will close itself out.
just let android take care of it for you, and stop worrying about it. only worry if you start getting absolutely terrible battery life. the only thing that i have that will not stop running is freaking words with friends. i have to close that via task manager every time. everything else takes care of itself
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Thanks Pirateghost! I tell ya taht some of these things just make my OCD get the better of me. Yeah, I was thinking that since everything else closes why doesn't the stock browser and messenger close too! All stock apps/programs should work the same way! OCD is > than me!
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Hi guys,
Have had my Hero just over a month now and love the thing to bits...
The one thing (battery life aside) that pees me off though is that the phone can be slow at times...
It seems to stem from apps either opening themselves and running in the background, or not closing properly when I select to close them.
I seem to spend half my time using the phone in TaskKiller getting rid of everything that shouldn't be running before I can do anything.
Has anyone got any smart ideas on how I can improve the problems above?
I've also noticed when I switch the phone off and back on a) it improves things slightly, but b) it also runs lots of things that I don't need open so is there a way to stop things running on start up?
Thanks for the help guys.
To show you what I mean, I just restarted the phone and killed everything except:
WaveSecure Beta
com.google.android.apps.mapssomething that goes off the screen) - can't kill this
HTC Sense
Touch Input
com.htc.provider
Go back to it 10 minutes later and I also have the following open:
Settings
vizBattery
Wi-Fi Status
Google Mail
Thats without me touching it at all.... if I had also used the Twitter app, Facebook, messaging etc then they would all still be open, the browser and music player would probably be there too.
It's normal fo it to start some apps on its own, for example peep (htc's twitter program) the music player (only if you have a widget on one of the homescreens)
same goes for calander etc etc google mail is push so it has to be opened to recieve messaged realtime.
Things like batterystatus thingy's often drain your battery and sometimes slow down your device I suggest removing that.
Also I don't know about wifi status but can imagine that draining battery to since
I don't think that will be running without your wifi being on. When continuosly searching for networks your device also will slow down, and drain the battery
My english isn't perfect so I hope you understand what I'm saying.
edit: do you use the official t-mobile rom or a custom? Don't know if htc released the last update for t-mob devices. That update really improved almost everything
so if you don't have that it's ''normal'' for the device to lag.
Some apps register themselves to start automatically. Obviously Gmail needs to run if you're syncing a Gmail account.
There's at least one app (paid) that can override this - I believe it is called Startup Auditor.
However, for the most part, it doesn't really matter since many of the apps that appear to be "running" will not be consuming any CPU time (and by extension battery life) unless they are designed to run in the background.
In addition, as Stafflover has already said, I'd also suggest you try removing vizBattery - whilst I've no specific experience with this app, I've heard that many battery status widgets drain the battery significantly.
Regards,
Dave
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There's at least one app (paid) that can override this - I believe it is called Startup Auditor.
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AutoStarts does the same job, also paid. using it for weeks, works great.
programs starting up
gk141054 said:
Hi guys,
Have had my Hero just over a month now and love the thing to bits...
The one thing (battery life aside) that pees me off though is that the phone can be slow at times...
It seems to stem from apps either opening themselves and running in the background, or not closing properly when I select to close them.
I seem to spend half my time using the phone in TaskKiller getting rid of everything that shouldn't be running before I can do anything.
Has anyone got any smart ideas on how I can improve the problems above?
I've also noticed when I switch the phone off and back on a) it improves things slightly, but b) it also runs lots of things that I don't need open so is there a way to stop things running on start up?
Thanks for the help guys.
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Hey Pal! I had the same problem then I got into a bit of app development and understood. Some service need to be "broadcasting" and some other to be "listening". Best you can do is sometimes tell them how often to "wake up and check". But if you think about it, a program MUST be checking on a few things, at least sometimes, to give you the "android experience". Also, no matter how much you care about that number you see in the "free ram" widget (assunming you use taskiller with the widget), it is not very important until it REALLY does slow your phone down. Some apps are worse than others at clogging up or draining your battery: try them, weigh how useful they really are for you and then decide what to keep (running) Ciao!
So my first problem is with advanced task killer. Let's not get into if I should or shouldn't use a task killer. Anyway, I use it manually to close apps like spiderman and crap I don't want to ever use. After I open the app and hit kill the phone freezes and no buttons get it back, so I have to pull the battery. This happens about every other day, maybe every 15th time ish. Any ideas on what's going on it is anyone else having this issue?
Second issue is that I'll turn on mobile data, open browser, go to Google and it acts like I have no internet connection. I open a new tab, same thing. Load a different website and it loads, try Google again and nothing. Google's website is an example, it could be any site. This is only with the first or second site opened after data is turned on. I'll kill the browser and it'll load after. Sometimes I'll disconnect and reconnect 3g and it'll fix it too, but not every time.
Should I get a replacement or are these issues software related only?
Thanks!
uninstall ATK and see if you still have the issues. I am betting it is somthing with ATK that is causing your problem.
No need for task killer app, the PHONE includes its own go to the app drawer n click on task manager let's u kill some of the apps running on the background without messing with Ur data etc
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So my first problem is with advanced task killer. Let's not get into if I should or shouldn't use a task killer. Anyway, I use it manually to close apps like spiderman and crap I don't want to ever use. After I open the app and hit kill the phone freezes and no buttons get it back, so I have to pull the battery. This happens about every other day, maybe every 15th time ish. Any ideas on what's going on it is anyone else having this issue?
Second issue is that I'll turn on mobile data, open browser, go to Google and it acts like I have no internet connection. I open a new tab, same thing. Load a different website and it loads, try Google again and nothing. Google's website is an example, it could be any site. This is only with the first or second site opened after data is turned on. I'll kill the browser and it'll load after. Sometimes I'll disconnect and reconnect 3g and it'll fix it too, but not every time.
Should u get a replacement or are these issues software related only?
Thanks!
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First one,,,if you know task killer freezes when you use it...does it not make sense NOT. In other words...if I knew say for instance calendar would freeze every time it hit a day...logic and common sence tells me not to use the damn thing..duh..
2. A. Try a factory reset....b..try with background sync off. C... Try a different browser..
D....go into browser...clear out cashe..clear out history...etc..
life64x said:
First one,,,if you know task killer freezes when you use it...does it not make sense NOT. In other words...if I knew say for instance calendar would freeze every time it hit a day...logic and common sence tells me not to use the damn thing..duh..
2. A. Try a factory reset....b..try with background sync off. C... Try a different browser..
D....go into browser...clear out cashe..clear out history...etc..
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Hey now, I'm not retarded... yes ofc I did quit using it (meant was happening about every other day not is happening) - doesn't mean I can't ask about it also I simply, after a few freezes, assumed it was the killer, but hoped there was a way around it and not something hardware related. I like to understand why things happen rather than find a temp fix and forget. This could be a sense 3.0 conflict with the app that I was unaware of, Idk. If everyone has the issue cool, if not I'm curious why only I do.
Also, the built-in task manager isn't exactly as easy to manually kill apps.
The browser also doesn't always load desktop view despite it being set as such. I'll try clearing or another browser and see what happens with these issues.
Thanks!
I hope it works for the browser...I used to think it was my browser also...it was my connection on 3G...this happens for both OG EVO and current...I did not mean to imply you where a iPhone owner...(retarded..).... Hehe......... Any iPhone owners....it's a joke dammit...
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I hope it works for the browser...I used to think it was my browser also...it was my connection on 3G...this happens for both OG EVO and current...I did not mean to imply you where a iPhone owner...(retarded..).... Hehe......... Any iPhone owners....it's a joke dammit...
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Lol. Has this happened to you as well then? I never had this issue with the browser/3G on my OG Evo... Actually I had no issues lol.
If you want to use an app manger try system panel. I can gibe you a list of apps that you should not kill and info on how to set it up so you can still have a one click kill all solution without having the phone freeze. What it seems like is happening is when you excute the one click kill all you might be killing a needed system app or one a needed system app depends on without knowing therefore causing the instant lock up and reboot. If your interested just shoot me a pm and I might be able to help you out.
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I have that issue with the browser and some Apps! I will have 3G but some websites will load, some won't and some Apps will work and some won't...it is really annoying...
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OK - I'm starting to think I'm the only person that has this issue as I haven't seen it reported..
Sometimes, my Photon won't launch apps. Apps that are already running continue to run and I can switch back and forth between them, but trying to start a new app, it just doesn't start! Fix has been to either reboot, or have it go to sleep and wake it up 15 minutes later and try again. I've had it do this while a system task manager was running, so could see that there was plenty of free memory (RAM) available..
This includes launching apps from apps that are already running. i.e. - sometimes the browser doesn't launch from a search query. (mostly though pressing an icon on the STOCK launcher doesn't launch it..)
Anyone else see this?
-mark
Yeah mine seems to do it every once in a while too. I noticed that if you open the task manager and kill the market then whatever app your trying to open will end up opening up right after the market closes.
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One of the reasons, I took mine back to the Sprint Store. When they fix it, I may buy it again... otherwise, my OG Evo is perfectly fine.
I can't believe more people aren't experiencing this. I do have LauncherPro installed but I don't think that's the reason. I can recreate this all the time. After installing an app through Market, I randomly can't open apps from the home screen.
Nothing happens unless I force close the Marketplace.
Any input on this?
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I can't believe more people aren't experiencing this. I do have LauncherPro installed but I don't think that's the reason. I can recreate this all the time. After installing an app through Market, I randomly can't open apps from the home screen.
Nothing happens unless I force close the Marketplace.
Any input on this?
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The new market is absolute crap in my opinion, way to many FC's with it and it just doesn't do what it needs to. If I can go faster than it can download, select, etc then it needs to be reworked, also I get a lot of packet errors, have to download apps two or three times just to get it to install.. Great idea but it needs a patch bad!
I wouldn't see why this is a reason to take the Photon back and go back to an Evo, I mean the Evo is a cool phone but the hardware on it is sub par compared to this phone. I used to have one, and it doesn't even hold a candle. But to each their own.
-DJ
I have only had this happen a few times I was told that it is associated with the battery manager settings if you don't use performance it can cause issues that was what was causing the muted audio issues the battery management settings put it on performance and I don't see the issue.
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I have only had this happen a few times I was told that it is associated with the battery manager settings if you don't use performance it can cause issues that was what was causing the muted audio issues the battery management settings put it on performance and I don't see the issue.
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I just noticed my battery mode was set to Nighttime Saver. Hadn't even looked at this option. I went ahead and changed it to Performance Mode and will see if it happens again.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Mine does it too. After the update that just came out it seems to do it less now.
Just started having this issue today. App launches and others won't launch unless you kill the "hanging" app or the market.
I have no idea if this is a bug in blur or some kind of hardware defect (memory). It seems to be a software issue.
Problem persists after complete hard reset and app cache clear.
I'm using an 8 GB Samsung class 2 microSD card (from old Evo 4G). It has been reformatted.
Other symptoms: Back button and select widgets become unresponsive.
App count at time problem started: 72
yeah i have the same issues. not sure how to fix it. Usually a reboot does it but man i hate to reboot it all the time.
Could you list any changes, apps, app counts, microSD card, or settings your Photon has?
Mine is working smoothly after redoing my Photon for the 2nd time, reformating the microSD card via the phone, keeping my App count below 70, setting the Battery mode to Performance, and not installing Bump or Sensorly.
Still trying to narrow down the issue but it's looking like it's software related.
still happening
Is this problem still happening to anyone's phone?? It's starting to get really annoying, I tried a hard reset twice on two different photons and the problem's still occurring.
I fixed this by installing the automemory manager. Details in my thread called lag be gone.
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Details here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273297
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sweet thanks I'll go ahead and give it a try.
OKay, so this is my first android phone, coming from an Iphone 4 and let me tell you im about 80% disappointed.
Here are some problems im having, im hoping that you can help me turn that 80 into a 20.
1. Apps just randomly run in the background: I'll close all but my live background, my task manager and my alarm clock and go to sleep. When I wake up almost EVERY SINGLE app I have is running in the background. Why? How do I stop this, the Iphone never did this, I feel this is a hard fail on androids part.
2. Many apps force close while im trying to use them: Ive tried stock rom, and serenity 8, same apps same issues. Its becoming a turn off to use the phone for any apps.
3. Multitasking: Is there any? MOST of the time when I switch apps and "multitask" its just like having the app open at the start page, I dont have to reload the app but its not where I last left it like the Iphone. Even on web pages I find if I switch out of the web and go to another app if I return to the web im back at my home page and I have to go to my history just to get back where I was. Is there a way for me to fix this?
4: Ram usage: when I turn my phone off, then on I see 150 in the used ram. This number raises even with out opening any apps. I kill all apps and close all running programs I see nothing running except services and it raises as high as 600 mb with 0 apps open and nothing running except a live background and the task manager. My iphone never had a memory leak, how do I fix this? 600 mb to do nothing is a bit excessive.
As a software developer im really confused as how Google tricked everyone that android was good. Perhaps Im just uninformed and that is why I am here. I am wondering why there would be all these problems right out of the box on an item that is what 4th 5th generation? These are problems that shouldnt be as frequent in 1st and 2nd generations. Any help would be wonderful thank you.
1. this question has been asked a million times. In short, the Android OS handles memory much different than you'd expect. An app will appear as running after you close it but it may not be. Android just keeps that memory allocated to that app in case you need to use it again. But if the OS needs that memory for something else, it will release it from that app and use it for something else.
2. what apps FC on you?
3. i'll leave this for someone else to explain because I dont use the browser much so I dont have much experience with that.
4. this goes along with my answer for #1. Android OS likes to have its memory allocated but it doesnt mean those apps are running.
I might be a little off on my explanation so I'll leave it to the experts to clarify but i'm pretty sure i'm fairly accurate.
1/4 - Not deficiencies, Android is designed that way. If an app is resident in memory, it is more readily accessible. Some badly written apps DO more than just sit there in the task list - but most are OK. Sitting in memory is not bad - holding a wakelock or showing up in your battery usage is.
2 - No clue - not having this problem here. I haven't seen an FC in a few weeks, and the last one was my own fault. What apps?
3) This depends on the app. However, usually the browser returns to wherever I last was when I use it. In fact I wish it were easier to "go home"...
3) Matter of using the right button. Close the app with the home button, and restart it where it left off. Back out of the app with the back button, and start over.
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
i really dont know what to tell you about the FC's because none of those FC on me ... whether I was stock or not. That just doesnt sound right. If you're stock, it shouldn't be FC'ing at all. I can understand if you're rooted and running S8 or some other ROM. Maybe something happened during the flash but stock should be fine.
I'm also trying out the browser on my phone and if I load a random website, go home, open another app and go back to the browser, its still on the last page I viewed.
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List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
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If you're swithing from app to app, and want to do it more quickly, hold the home button for a few seconds (pretty much anywhere, no need to go 'home' first). It will open up a list of the last 6 apps you've used. Pretty sure from the point you left off.
holding the home button does work pretty well, although sometimes it does not have the last couple apps I was using, mainly Go SMS pro. I am currently running S8 thought it was stable, guess i'll reflash and give this another go for a week, if not then its return to the IP and trade this back for the 4s. Thanks for the help!
Any suggestion on what rom to flash to?
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
Chase
email
Gmail
maps
market
netflix
web
I'm running Serendipity 8.1 and do not have any problems with these apps from your list. You may need to re-flash.
Edit: what Entropy said.
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holding the home button does work pretty well, although sometimes it does not have the last couple apps I was using, mainly Go SMS pro. I am currently running S8 thought it was stable, guess i'll reflash and give this another go for a week, if not then its return to the IP and trade this back for the 4s. Thanks for the help!
Any suggestion on what rom to flash to?
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any of them are good but I personally use UnNamed. You really should wipe your phone first. Thats probably why you have so many FC's. When you flash a new rom, make sure you do NOT restore system apps via Titanium Backup (if thats what you use).
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Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
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i think thats exactly what happened because having that many FC's is not normal .
DKS1282 said:
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
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To switch between running apps all you have to do is long press the home button - one press to see the last six open apps and your there.
Having the browser return to the home page every time just means you don't know what you are doing.
Being concerned about what is being held in ram its also a sign you don't know what you are doing. The memory chip where the ram resides, where you see a list of apps being held has to remain powered on all the time. Whether it is holding 250 MB of data, 500 MB of data or just 10 MB of data it will still be drawing the same amount of power. And just because an apps data is being held in ram does not necessarily mean it is running. Top see what us running you need to check cpu usage.
The only time to concerned about ram is if more than 85% is being used then you would start having problems. But this does not happen on our phones, and only would happen if you had something causing a major memory leak.
All of your force closes are related to you or your particular phone. I have maybe five fc's in a month and three of those happened while I was running cm7.
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Lot of user error here. I'm on the stock ROM with root.
Switch apps quickly by holding home.
If you use the back button to exit an app then you truly are exiting the app. Use home if you want it to start running.
Don't worry about ram usage. This device has 1GB and Android manages it very well without you ever having to worry.
I never have force closes unless it's the developers issue. If you're running from backed up apps then you can expect to have FCs. Install from fresh if you try a new ROM.
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I think the main reason the op is having his browser reset most of the time is because the op is using some kind if task killer. This task killer is also probably the cause of a significant portion of the fc's being experienced.
There should be a forum rule against people who run task killers then complain about fc's, laggy apps, and problems with multitasking.
I mean it should be obvious running a "task killer" on a device designed specifically to multitask - it is so silly. Look at the two phrases side by side "task killer" "multitasking device" - can you see what I mean.
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To switch between running apps all you have to do is long press the home button - one press to see the last six open apps and your there.
Having the browser return to the home page every time just means you don't know what you are doing.
Being concerned about what is being held in ram its also a sign you don't know what you are doing. The memory chip where the ram resides, where you see a list of apps being held has to remain powered on all the time. Whether it is holding 250 MB of data, 500 MB of data or just 10 MB of data it will still be drawing the same amount of power. And just because an apps data is being held in ram does not necessarily mean it is running. Top see what us running you need to check cpu usage.
The only time to concerned about ram is if more than 85% is being used then you would start having problems. But this does not happen on our phones, and only would happen if you had something causing a major memory leak.
All of your force closes are related to you or your particular phone. I have maybe five fc's in a month and three of those happened while I was running cm7.
Just because you don't know how to use a device does not make the device a general fail. Let's put the blame where it belongs, on the guy who has no understanding on what is going on with the processes in the device and drawing conclusions on based on an obviously ignorant perception those observations.
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I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
jmj12us said:
I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
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Not that I know of. There are little tricks like that and a good majority of people would never know of them I'm afraid.
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jmj12us said:
I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
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Samsung has a tips and tricks page specifically for the AT&T GS2 that may show you some things you didn't know. One thing I didn't know was that you can take a screenshot with stock by pressing the power button and the home button at the same time. I also didn't know you can access the clipboard to show everything you "copied" from text fields.
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/tips--tricks-galaxy-s-ii-at-t-
As far as the OP's issues, I have all of those apps except for chase and hootsuite installed on stock and I don't FC at all. For the browser concerns, you may just be opening a new window each time you run the browser from the app icon. Try zooming all the way out of the page and then pinch to zoom out once more and it will show you the windows you have open, or you can press the menu key and select windows. The icon for "windows" in the menu will have a number on it if you have more than one open.
Entropy512 said:
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
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Number 1... I didnt do that. I didnt think I had to off of a stock rom, but your right, I should have.
Thread cleaned... Please do not make me have to do so again. This forum is for friendly discussion.. Lets keep it that way.
edit --- I see Devine madcat is pushing back to topic
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when you are viewing a contact in People app and you switch away, if you go back to People it will loose context and show you the main list again. this is definitely an intended behavior and one of the worst usability flaws of the Android OS. is there a way to disable this horribly ****ty behavior? maybe replacing the People icon with a shortcut to a special activity? do i need to patch the source for this? thank you!
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when you are viewing a contact in People app and you switch away, if you go back to People it will loose context and show you the main list again. this is definitely an intended behavior and one of the worst usability flaws of the Android OS. is there a way to disable this horribly ****ty behavior? maybe replacing the People icon with a shortcut to a special activity? do i need to patch the source for this? thank you!
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Hmm. Sounds frustrating.I dunno about it being a default behavior. It doesn't happen on my phone, so can not recreate issue to see what's up. Are you going back to it after awhile, or like you just pop in another app and right back and it's back to the top of the list? I'm thinking maybe the system is being aggressive on the RAM front and shutting the app down if you are out of it for too long. If that is the case, then rooting and adjustin the memory management might be necessary. What phone and update are you on?
A quick, potential work around, is using another dialer / contact app other than the built in one. Go Dialer, ExDialer, and PixelPhone all come to mind.
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Hmm. Sounds frustrating.I dunno about it being a default behavior. It doesn't happen on my phone, so can not recreate issue to see what's up. Are you going back to it after awhile, or like you just pop in another app and right back and it's back to the top of the list? I'm thinking maybe the system is being aggressive on the RAM front and shutting the app down if you are out of it for too long. If that is the case, then rooting and adjustin the memory management might be necessary. What phone and update are you on?
A quick, potential work around, is using another dialer / contact app other than the built in one. Go Dialer, ExDialer, and PixelPhone all come to mind.
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thanks but not interested in a quick workaround involving other apps, especially closed source. i build my own system so i can patch it if it there is no other solution.
not a RAM issue, my 2GB device has plenty of it free.
yes, go out, right back in, and u land in the contact list again.
but... maybe i wasnt clear enough. if i switch back using the recent apps mechanism, it does return to the opened contact. the problem is when i switch back clicking the icon in the home screen or the app in the app drawer. the default behavior of android apps when u "open" them is to continue where you left off. this is both baked in the framework and also recommended by google. but as it happens with the People app which returns to the contact list, much of android and google apps break the recommended practices, probably in an effort to cause less confusion for android newbies or grandmas.
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this sucks! im not a grandma yet. and, i wish google got this, if google has to break the recommended practices to make android usable, then the recommended practices ARE FLAWED!
and yes they are. android sucks terribly in task switching usability. there is NO WAY to multitask as the master and owner of the device. there is no way to force on apps what you want to happen, no way to do what you want. the back key should take you to the previous activity, which may be a different app. but so many apps even coded by google take you to the main activity in the current app instead, causing that if you say open a notification, you'll have to hit back maybe many times to go back to your previous app, if you ever arrive there. btw, apps can override the back key to do anything else or even nothing which is crap.
the recent apps thingy works sometimes and other times it doesnt. since an app can launch an activity from another app in its own activity stack, you cant go back using recent apps because for android you never left the first app (although you did). and then you can only press back, except back might not take you back where you were at all!
there is no way to multitask in any predictable way. you have to learn per-app quirks and see what they let you do and what they don't. there is no way to a priori know what a tasking key will do, which is complete crap.
also under many situations android will forget what you were doing with cross app invocations (and this is PER ANDROID DESIGN) when you invoke twice activities of a single app from different apps.
the only key that works consistently is the home hey. and if from there you want to go back to an app you can't, because some apps -like People- choose to misbehave if clicked from the icon and may do what they want, like forgetting context and loosing your "work".
android's tasking system sucks horribly. i only use android because there's nothing better thats mature enough.
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