Hi just wanted to check if its safe to charge my flyer with a usb connected to a wall socket.
When I bought my HTC desire s I got one usb cable along with a wall unit. So I use the cable to charge + sync.
I travel a lot n it would be convinient to carry one wall socket and 2 cables one for desire s n one for flyer.
But is it safe to charge the flyer from a usb which connects to the wall unit ...since they gave a seperate wall charger in the box.
Please help
Its very safe, but most likely the charging will be much slower especially if the Flyer is on. I would recommend you power down the Flyer when charging but this method. The special charger that comes with the Flyer provides a higher voltage and current than a standard USB charger and cable so it charges faster.
santoshrane said:
I travel a lot n it would be convinient to carry one wall socket and 2 cables one for desire s n one for flyer.
Please help
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Yeah you can...if the Desire is mini-USB then you could even just carry the one cable too - a normal mini-USB cable will fit in the Flyer socket (sort of upside down to how you would expect it to fit).
But the difference is 9v/1.67a Vs 5v/1a (or even 0.8a depending on the USB charger you are using) so charging would be a lot slower. On the road, if you only have one charger then you can't charge your phone and tab at the same time...if you're like me and don't like leaving stuff out in a hotel room when you leave for dinner, then you might find that it is so slow you can't get phone and flyer charged overnight!
If you travel by car, you can get 5v/2a chargers, and even twin 5v/4a chargers (2a per socket) which would turbo your charging - but I don't know what circuit protection HTC uses and I guess there is always a chance of goosing your battery...
Technically charging with lower current is better for battery, it more " deep" and " real"
But you have to wait up to 12 hours to make it full charge *_*. if you keep the screen on and charge with 5v 1A, the battery still drop *_*
9*1.67 ~ 3 * (5*1) . it mean it only take around 3+ hours if you using wallcharger, same as normal handphone.
So it just up to you But sure that it safe.
twisticles said:
Yeah you can...if the Desire is mini-USB then you could even just carry the one cable too - a normal mini-USB cable will fit in the Flyer socket (sort of upside down to how you would expect it to fit).
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You mean Micro USB. Mini USB will not fit the Flyer (nor the Desire, I believe.).
Thank you guys ...yes the charging on the usb is very slow. Takes lot of time.
Like when I land I would go for dinner to aocal pub n would want it to have enough charge to catch a movie before I wind down ...usb wouldn't be the best choice.
I guess ill have to carry 2 chargers. Hopefully one day I find a 9 v wall unit to make life comfortable.
Right now I'm using a wall unit that came with my dv cam which is 5v.
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Hey guys,
I was wondering if these USB car chargers are compatible for the TP2?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dual-2-Ports-US...Accessories?hash=item518f99b7a9#ht_3242wt_958
and
http://cgi.ebay.com/DC-Car-Cigarett...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3a567814a2
and
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silver-Mini-Uni...Accessories?hash=item414bbc871c#ht_2000wt_958
I'm asking because I remember in the past I used a HTC charger to charge the O2 XDA Flame and it charged. However, the phone started acting VERY weird and freeze a lot. I ended up having to hard reset it
Thanks!
I think any USB charger for electronic gaget that has a output of 5.0 v should work. It does not matter if it is an AC charger or and car lighter charger. I got one of these AC and another car lighter charger. There are all 5.0 v output. I use them to charge Ipod and phones.
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I think any USB charger for electronic gaget that has a output of 5.0 v should work. It does not matter if it is an AC charger or and car lighter charger. I got one of these AC and another car lighter charger. There are all 5.0 v output. I use them to charge Ipod and phones.
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It's best to choose one that can supply enough current (I think the wall charger supplies 2A, but 1A should be ok). Some devices will still trickle charge with a lower current, but others just won't trigger the charging circuits at all.
I had a cheap car charger that seemed to work ok most of the time, but it got worryingly hot after a while.
My TP2 came with an official HTC charger, so I use that now and it's great.
I have noticed that if the phone is OFF then 1A is not enough and usually stops charging but if the phone is ON it completes the charge..but takes for ever.
Has anyone experienced the charging overheat situation where the led flashes orange and green? I dont know if that is the situation but it only happens when I am charging in the car and the unit gets hot.
My old "OEM HTC" charger I got on ebay (the one with the blue HTC light) just stopped charging my phone after about 10-15 uses.
It lights on (charger), but my phone doesn't catch any charge lol
I got a 1A one, and unfortunately it cannot produce enough juice when running the GPS (copilot), after a while the phone shows a message telling the charge current is not enough.
The wall charger that came with the original box is 1A too, thus the problem might be with the cheap car charger.
Brando sells a 2A car adapter that should do the trick. They're out of stock right now, but it may be worth a look.
Hey!
Mine is a cheapo but does the trick. Charges the phone with satnav running, today went from 23% to full in less than 3 hours. Plus it's really tiny so I can keep my ashtray closed all the time. Using it with mini retractable cable, it all fits in the ashtray and it's handy to use.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Micro-Nano-Ti...daptors_SM?hash=item5638c26773#ht_1747wt_1165
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Brando sells a 2A car adapter that should do the trick. They're out of stock right now, but it may be worth a look.
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The manual states that the output of the AC charger is 5.0 volts and 1 amp. That means the output of the DC/car charger should be the same. Using a 2 amp current might be charging the device faster but it would probably generate more heat and might shorten the battery life.
one tip, regardless of which charger you end up with, is to not leave the phone plugged in while starting the car. my understanding is that there can be be large voltage surges or fluctuations during the startup. depending on the design on the voltage converter inside the charger, some of that may be making it through to the phone.
i once had a AA NiCd battery smart charger that went wonky after using it in the car a lot, but that was with a straight-through 12V car to charger connector.
I made my own charger for using as a GPS on my motorcycles.
There is a charge select line in the plug. If the phone detects that it is connected to a USB port, the phone will not 'pull' more the 500ma. If that line is set to indicate a non USB port, then the phone will pull 1 amp. MAX (I never saw more then 900ma myself).
If you have the wrong charge plug, it may only charge at 500ma. If you have the correct plug and the charger can manage 5 amps, the phone will still only take 1 amp max.
For a while I used the phone in a waterproof box called an Aquabox. It would overheat during charging. I now only charge the phone when it is not in an enclosed hot space.
I'm still using the off-brand 'for Blackberry' car charger I got back when I had my Kaiser. Seems to be working just fine with this phone as well.
Hey all, the Sprint Hero comes with a charger that uses the usb cable to plug in to the phone. My problem is two-fold:
First, I like having a usb cord on me to charge where ever I go, and I don't like/am bad at remembering to take the usb cord out of the wall unit and pack with me in the morning.
Second, The usb cord isn't very long for a device that's plugged into an outlet near the ground (read: nearly every outlet in existence) and the usb cable barely reaches my desk for the phone to rest on.
Is there a decent charger that doesn't need our usb cable and has a couple extra feet in length? I don't want to get a universal charger because I don't want to fry the phone's charging system, which happened to my old Vogue. Everything I have found online is a universal type charger.
Has anyone had any experience with a good wall charger for the hero?
Thanks,
- JustPyro
You are aware that a standard USB cable works with the Hero? No need to use the one that came with the phone.
Regards,
Dave
Buy a longer USB-miniUSB lead, plug that into your home charger, and then carry the shorter one that HTC supplies around with you.
I've also found the stock one too short so I got a longer one, I also got a 3 inch long one to keep with me for tethering at work.... fits in my pocket nicely and it doesn't need to be any longer when the phone is sat next to my laptop.
These days I rarely find anywhere where I can't quickly borrow a miniUSB lead to charge my phone, they're used on so many different devices. Oh, and don't be afraid of 'universal' chargers - the Hero works with these fine, since USB is a 'universal' standard and 5v is 5v no matter where it comes from.
I would like to cut the htc usb cable and replace it with a standard micro usb piece. I am just not sure if the charging current of the htc is not to high for other devices like my galaxy s.
For the people who like to ask "why do you want,..."; I don´t like to carry thousands of cable with me and the standard micro usb chargers charge the flyer slowlyer than the original.
thanks for answers
standard usb chargers can only yield 5W, which is why HTC has provided a customized charger for the flyer / view.
you're out of luck. undesirable I know.
barbecue
rubensun said:
standard usb chargers can only yield 5W, which is why HTC has provided a customized charger for the flyer / view.
you're out of luck. undesirable I know.
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does it mean I would grill other devices with the htc charger?
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does it mean I would grill other devices with the htc charger?
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You could always perform an experiment. Let us know what happens.
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Drives me nuts that they changed the connection. Finding the stupid ExtMicro or what ever they call it is hard. I ordered two last week and I won't get them until the end of this week. If anyone knows where to get them please let me knowing.... I think they come from the UK. You have to be really careful when buying cables, if it doesn't say ExtMicro USB it won't work. I almost bought one at buy.com that said it was for the flyer so I called them I the rep said that all the cables that say HTC flyer won't work unless it says ExtMicro USB. Good luck
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The HTC charger supplies 9 volts @ 1.2 amp. Which it clearly states on the label.
This may be too much for some USB devices.
USB chargers supply 5 volts usually at .5 amp.
The Flyer has two batteries inside and really needs the extra power.
The ExtMicro connector is HTC proprietary.
Ok, So will it hurt my Flyer to use a standard Micro USB? I know it's not the correct Voltage and Amperage but it does keep my tab charged while i'm at work.
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Ok, So will it hurt my Flyer to use a standard Micro USB? I know it's not the correct Voltage and Amperage but it does keep my tab charged while i'm at work.
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it won't hurt it.
won;t hurt, but s USB port will not supply enough juice to charge while you have the Flyer on. If you turn it off or off the screen it will charge it......... s l o w l y...
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Drives me nuts that they changed the connection. Finding the stupid ExtMicro or what ever they call it is hard.
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But the different connection has a deeper sense.
Using the original cable, the flyer is charged with 9V @ 1,2Amps, which is about 4-times faster then a standard microUSB can handle.
So changing the connector of the original carger will kill all "normal microUSB" devices.
Nevertheless, a standard microUSB-cable can be used too, but charging will take much longer. Even more, on heavy use, you will get the warning, that the drain of the battery is higher than the charging current.
I don't think the cable matters? I understand that the charger matters as it provides different amount of volt/amperage, but I thought the cable it self merely passes through whatever electricity is provided?
I use the same cable, the one that came with my Kindle to charge my Samsung Focus and the Evo View, and it seems to work just fine - i haven't tried watching a movie while charging, however.
Cylix said:
I don't think the cable matters? I understand that the charger matters as it provides different amount of volt/amperage, but I thought the cable it self merely passes through whatever electricity is provided?
I use the same cable, the one that came with my Kindle to charge my Samsung Focus and the Evo View, and it seems to work just fine - i haven't tried watching a movie while charging, however.
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Any regular micro USB will charge the view. It will charge, but it will not charge as fast as it would with the charger it comes with. I have tried charging my rezound with that charger, and it will not charge it, probably because of the huge output. So changing the tip to micro USB would probably work to charge the view, but trying to charge another device with it could probably fry it. There are quite a few places that sell the OEM charger like HTC pedia. Its a bit expensive but I would always recommend using the OEM charger.
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A standard USB charger will not charge the Flyer or View while operating. Its simply cannot provide the required supply of 9v @ 1.2 amp. that the Flyer need.
It will s l o w l y charge the Flyer while its off or asleep. And the special connector provides extra contacts to handle the additional current. It's HTC proprietary.
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I had the same problem. I broke my gf's Flyer charger. I had a hard time finding a replacement. However, Sprint and ATT carry similar chargers for their HTC tablets, View and Jetstream, respectively, The ATT Jetstream charger is $30 plus tax and the Sprint View charger is $35 plus tax.
The ATT charger is shown as white on their website. The Sprint charger is shown as being black.
Hope this helps.
So my charger met with an untimely demise. I am unable to get my hands on a replacement one at the moment.
I am currently using my computer's USB port which as you will know doesn't give quite enough juice. I have seen a microusb charger with 5V and 2A. Will this do a job (and also not get rid of the message that i am drawing more juice than the battery is getting)?
I use the charger that came with my Evo 4g. It needs to sit overnight, but it charges to green.
milomak said:
So my charger met with an untimely demise. I am unable to get my hands on a replacement one at the moment.
I am currently using my computer's USB port which as you will know doesn't give quite enough juice. I have seen a microusb charger with 5V and 2A. Will this do a job (and also not get rid of the message that i am drawing more juice than the battery is getting)?
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No.
The reason for the strange shape USB lead HTC have is that it gives 9V and 1.7A - 5V isn't going to cut it, it will charge but ever so slowly and if you try to charge whilst using it you'll probably find it doesn't, it just discharges more slowly.
If I were to take an old wall wart I have here that is 9V and 2A and wire a standard micro USB cable to it, would that work to charge my flyer quickly? In other words is the strange connector necessary or just the 9V and 2A?
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bsoplinger said:
If I were to take an old wall wart I have here that is 9V and 2A and wire a standard micro USB cable to it, would that work to charge my flyer quickly? In other words is the strange connector necessary or just the 9V and 2A?
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NO, because the fast charge requires the special connector on the HTC power cord , a micro-usb will not allow the Flyer to draw the high current.
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NO, because the fast charge requires the special connector on the HTC power cord , a micro-usb will not allow the Flyer to draw the high current.
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so an adaptor with a usb slot and using the usb cable would work?
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so an adaptor with a usb slot and using the usb cable would work?
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If you're using the HTC-specific microUSB cable, the adaptor would have to provide the correct amount of power (9V and 1.7A). Most usb power adaptors do not provide the adequate amount. A little while back, I made the mistake of taking just my phone usb adaptor to charge everything on a trip out of the country for nearly two months. It worked great for everything except for my View. Even though I had the HTC-specific usb cable for the View, it was still like charging via a computer usb port. It would get the job done if I left it all day or all night, but it took forever to charge.
I really would try to track down an OEM charger. Even if you find a usb adaptor that puts out the right amount of power, it still might not provide the short amount of charging time that the OEM charger does. It should theoretically, but many users have had charging time woes when using anything but the OEM charger.
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NO, because the fast charge requires the special connector on the HTC power cord , a micro-usb will not allow the Flyer to draw the high current.
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No it doesn't. A member of my site took the OEM charger, wired a 90 degree micro USB port to it, charges at full speed.
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Volts and Amps - PowerFlask
From the posts on this subject it seems that the Powerflask 13000 mAh powerbank I bought today and which charges at 5.3 volt with a 1amp and 2.5 amp port won't properly charge my flyer?
Can I safely use the 2.5amp port or should I rather stick to the 1amp port.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Maffs,
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From the posts on this subject it seems that the Powerflask 13000 mAh powerbank I bought today and which charges at 5.3 volt with a 1amp and 2.5 amp port won't properly charge my flyer?
Can I safely use the 2.5amp port or should I rather stick to the 1amp port.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
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Folks on here have mentioned that the device (and other tablet/smartphone devices) will only draw the amount of current (amps) it needs. So using a charger with a higher amp rating is not a concern (in theory).
But I think others have debated this, and even made claims of higher volt/amp rated chargers damaging their devices (however anecdotal).
In any case, from the responses on this thread, it appears that any charger that doesn't have HTC's proprietary connector that they used for the Flyer, will charge the tablet very slowly. I just plugged my Flyer into a microUSB charger the other day (just got back from a trip, and my stock charger was still packed), and it charged extremely slowly. It was slower than I remembered it being. It was plugged in for maybe 4 hours, and only increased the charge by 10 or 15%.
PowerFlask Volts and Amps
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.
I ran a quick test and connected the Flyer to the battery pack.
The flyer charged from 76% to 84% in 30 minutes . I realise that such a short charge isn't a proper test but it looks promising.
I used the 1amp port and will as you cautioned avoid the 2.5 amp port.
Maffs
When ever I drive, I have my phone hooked up to my Escort Red Line radar detector and my car's stereo via bluetooth (both). In order for me to use the radar detector effective, I need to have GPS and Blueooth enabled. This is a HUGE SUPER OMG battery drainer for my amaze. 20 minutes drive kills about 35% of the phone's power. My radar detector offers a slot to charge my phone BUT it still drains, not enough juice flowing in. Someone said it is because it's probably a .5amp.
So I am running a extension from the 12v lighter that's in the trunk to the front of my car. Amazon has a generic 2.1amp for 3 bucks.
http://www.amazon.com/Premium-Heavy...121&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+amaze+car+charger+amp
But on ebay, I found the original HTC car charger for 15 bucks which is a 1amp.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Amaze-4...918506?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27c867022a
What do you guys recommend? My logic says go for the 2.1amp, the phone will draw as much as it needs from it.
The 1amp.
Anything higher you'll damage the phone or the battery.
A wall plug power supply or a usb supply is 5.0v/1amp.
The 2.1 amp is probably 1 amp per port. Although it does not seem to specify.
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What do you guys recommend? My logic says go for the 2.1amp, the phone will draw as much as it needs from it.
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soundping said:
The 1amp.
Anything higher you'll damage the phone or the battery.
A wall plug power supply or a usb supply is 5.0v/1amp.
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That means a higher capacity battery (more current NOT MORE VOLTAGE) will damage the phone?!!!!
Totally wrong!
A higher current will not damage the phone. A higher voltage will do it!
Please do not mix the current with voltage!
Voltage is same 5 Volts (±5%) for these “USB like” applications (1A or 2.1A power supply our case )They use USB socket/connector but usually only pin 1 and 4 (+ and-)
Regular computer USB port can supply max 0.5-0.9 A depending on version.
For battery charging devices the current can go to 5A.
Higher voltage will trip a warning window telling you to disconnect and use official HTC equipment.
The phone monitors input voltage to protect the equipment.
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That means a higher capacity battery (more current NOT MORE VOLTAGE) will damage the phone?!!!!
Totally wrong!
A higher current will not damage the phone. A higher voltage will do it!
Please do not mix the current with voltage!
Voltage is same 5 Volts (±5%) for these “USB like” applications (1A or 2.1A power supply our case )They use USB socket/connector but usually only pin 1 and 4 (+ and-)
Regular computer USB port can supply max 0.5-0.9 A depending on version.
For battery charging devices the current can go to 5A.
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and to add to that... unless you take the charger apart and short pins 2 and 3, it will only ever draw 500mA, as it assumes that it is hooked up to a regular powered USB port... I have bought multiple car charger usb adapters, and I have taken all of them apart and soldered the 2nd and 3rd pins together... otherwise charge time = forever, and sometimes it won't even charge if you have wifi or data/gps/bluetooth all going at once...
I recently got an Amaze and am generally happy with it. The biggest problem I have right now is finding the right car charger for it because the car charger I previously used (a 1A monoprice car charger) doesn't give it enough charge. I have been reading through the forums and some has been saying that if the charger is not working properly, it will recognize it as charging via USB rather than AC. In my case, the phone seems to be reading it as charging through AC, but there still doesn't seem to be enough current going through it. The phone will only charge if NOTHING is going on (i.e. screen's off, no GPS, etc.). I've been using CoPilot GPS and it draws the battery like crazy. Anyone has any idea as to which car charger would work properly with the Amaze such that I'll be able to charge (or at least maintain the charge) while using it as a GPS? Do I need to go up to a 2.1A charger?
I would look for a 4-5 star rated 2.1a car charger on Amazon.
Just read through the comments and feedback and you'll find one that's right for you.
I prefer the USB charger base itself and then using the OEM cable that came with the Amaze.
It seems to charge faster with that cable, at least to me anyway.
Remember though if it's rated 2.1a but has two USB slots that 2.1a will be cut in half if used to charge two different devices.
Hope this helps.
I couldve sworn we talked about this months ago. Let me see if I can find the thread.
nguyendqh said:
I would look for a 4-5 star rated 2.1a car charger on Amazon.
Just read through the comments and feedback and you'll find one that's right for you.
I prefer the USB charger base itself and then using the OEM cable that came with the Amaze.
It seems to charge faster with that cable, at least to me anyway.
Remember though if it's rated 2.1a but has two USB slots that 2.1a will be cut in half if used to charge two different devices.
Hope this helps.
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you won't get the full 2.1a unless you usee a charge only cable or modify the charger as I stated above...
I ended up getting a 2.1A car charger and a USB charge only cable, and it's working perfectly. When I have the screen on full brightness and doing navigation with Co-Pilot GPS, my phone's no longer losing charge and is actually charging. The combo also works with my tablet as well.
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and to add to that... unless you take the charger apart and short pins 2 and 3, it will only ever draw 500mA, as it assumes that it is hooked up to a regular powered USB port... I have bought multiple car charger usb adapters, and I have taken all of them apart and soldered the 2nd and 3rd pins together... otherwise charge time = forever, and sometimes it won't even charge if you have wifi or data/gps/bluetooth all going at once...
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This is damn helpful! So THAT is why when driving and using gps or whatnot I would always lose more battery even on charger.. So basically I can just solder the middle 2 pins together to trick it into thinking it is being powered like a home charger? No chance it will hurt anything I assume?
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This is damn helpful! So THAT is why when driving and using gps or whatnot I would always lose more battery even on charger.. So basically I can just solder the middle 2 pins together to trick it into thinking it is being powered like a home charger? No chance it will hurt anything I assume?
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I have done this to every single one of my USB car chargers... not a single issue...