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I hate to start a new battery thread but I've searched, read all the ones out there, and nothing seems to have helped. I just got this phone late last week and I first upgraded it to the latest OTA, then odin cww and finally installed com rom 1.3. Let me just say I've never seen a battery drop this quick. I haven't even activated the phone on my account because I'm so scared of how quickly I see it dropping without touching a thing on the phone. I also noticed the following:
baseband version
S:i500.04 V.ED03
Kernel Version
2.6.32.9
Build Number SCH-I500.ED01
The baseband and build ED0? don't seem to match up. Would this cause the problem? How do I fix that?
Just so that you get an idea, I've had the phone disconnected for 5hr 30min and I'm down to 55% battery with a fresh clean install of com rom 1.3. I did the battery calibration and that's about the only thing I've even installed on the phone. When I hit batt use here's what I get.
Display: 52%
WiFi 26%
cell standby 15%
Phone Idle 7%
I've had android for about a year and have an incredible that I love so I know that something just isn't right with this fascinate. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike
my understanding is that the build and baseband don;t have to be equal, baseband is modem/radio and build is just the rom i believe.
From what I hear, the only thing you have to keep track of is using an eclair modem with a froyo rom as there will be issues...
You can try going to the ED01 modem (works better for me vs ed03)
I also had battery "problems".. barely get through 12 hours without needed charge with little use.
I just installed Green power app from market.. it seems to work similarly to juice defender, just is easier to configure for the noob like me, and is MUCH more limited. works on the basis of only turning on transmission intermittently.
Now I can go 18+ hours and remain above 50%.. 80% if I don't touch my phone.
Turn off wifi when you're not connected, my phone lasts 36 hours using juice defender to turn off radios when screen is off
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The radio firmware makes or breaks the battery life on this phone. I've tried every combo of roms and radio firmwares. Go back to the DL09 or EA28 (my preference) radio firmware and recalibrate your battery bro. The eclair-era radio firmwares have proven to be much better than the newer ones.
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Com Rom is built off of ED01 so it will say that.
ED03 is the latest build basically the same as ED01 just 3 fixed some bug that had a few phones stuck on EA28 if I remember correctly.
I haven't noticed much battery difference between the different modem/radios, personally it seems like the kernels make a bigger difference to me.
Also if you just clear the battery stars to calibrate the battery the battery gauge will be messed up for a couple cycles, best if you run it all the way down too. One of tie batteries I was calibrating in my phone said 0% for almost an hour before it actually turned off.
These phones aren't great on battery life anyways. One of the good things about using a kernel like OTB included in com rom is it allows you to use aftermarket batteries and still charge then in the phone. I get the Samsung batteries (I think they are technically for the epic), out of China for $2 each. Have 5 of them right now the wife and I rotate through. We also have two external chargers, we both just carry a spare battery to use if our phones die during the day.
Thanks for the tips. I think I'm going to try the different radio files and see if that helps. I guess I was just wondering why my display shows as if it's using so much battery and if that was caused by some other conflict. I've had phones with bad battery life but this is just crazy. From the time I wrote the first post (a little less than 2 hrs ago) I've gone from 56% to 36% with nothing installed or running. That's just beyond bad battery life. Something is hosed. I'll try the radios and cross my fingers.
Have you tried under the task manager and choose the ram manager do the level 2 clear, should close everything that is running, that helps me quite a bit. Also auto rotate can be turned off when you aren't using it that will help battery life too.
mcapiro said:
Thanks for the tips. I think I'm going to try the different radio files and see if that helps. I guess I was just wondering why my display shows as if it's using so much battery and if that was caused by some other conflict. I've had phones with bad battery life but this is just crazy. From the time I wrote the first post (a little less than 2 hrs ago) I've gone from 56% to 36% with nothing installed or running. That's just beyond bad battery life. Something is hosed. I'll try the radios and cross my fingers.
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As was stated earlier, turn off wifi when you are not using it, that will help a lot. Also under wifi settings, advanced, and change the wifi sleep policy to when screen is turned off. And when you look at those percentages under battery use are not a percentage of the total battery, just a percentage of whatever battery use there is. So if you are losing 8% of your battery per hour, that 52% next to display just means display is draining 52% of that 8% per hour drain. Display is almost always going to be the top drain because of the super amoled screen.
^^^ Yeah, display is most of it. Turn brightness down (as opposed to automatic or full brightness) and see how that helps. If that doesn't help, turn off mobile data until needed, if that doesn't help (should do this anyway) recalibrate your battery and cycle it like 2 times. Give it a couple days, it will go back to normal.
Radios are the biggest battery drain, not the screen, I've used airplane mode and watched movies with four hours of screen on time and used 20% battery, all you need to do is keep wifi off when not in use, it pings something like every 20s trying to find when you're in range of networks, 3g is your second biggest killer...also do not use auto task killers, for reasons I'm too lazy to get into...lowest screen brightness setting helps some but I've found it a pain going into bright sun and having to change it, the auto dimmer works rather well
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Click on the items in battery stats and tell us how long your display has actually been on. The display on this phone can fairly easily burn through 1%/minute of being on (in fact, doing the math, my phone's display is at just under 1%/minute right now).
And, personally, I hate JuiceDefender and those apps. They're not fixing the source of the problem, just doing a half assed job of duct taping over what might be tangentally related (while doing horrible things to syncing). Try to find what is _actually_ trying to keep the network awake if that is actually what is going on (the Facebook widget is known to utterly destroy battery life). Make sure apps are using Push instead of Pull notifications where ever possible (Pull uses an astronomically large amount of battery life in comparison to Push).
I get around 15 hours on any other radio than dl09, on which I get around 24-36 hours depending on how much I'm using to phone. Also make sure you turn off wifi when you aren't using it.
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I get around 15 hours on any other radio than dl09, on which I get around 24-36 hours depending on how much I'm using to phone. Also make sure you turn off wifi when you aren't using it.
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Ok, thanks to everyone. I wanted to give you all a quick update in the hopes that this will help someone in the future. I replaced the radio file with EA28 and wow what a difference it made. I now don't see the percentages drop right before my eye and I have a shot of making it through the day. I'm also pretty surprised by the amount of battery the screen uses up. My AMOLED droid incredible usually shows the display as using the least percentage of battery. I guess the super really isn't that super.
One question I do have is if I go back down to DL09 to get the better battery life, what's the trade off?
I haven't noticed any differences between the DL09 radio and any Froyo radio.
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Hi All, I have been using the Xda for long time and I am a bit greed and I never register, yep that's right, hate plz come.
But anyway, I have used too many phones that I can't even remember.
Last couples of week, I got rid off my Nexus one and got A Razr, but the disparagement start right with the battery life!
First a few days, I was using only wifi, as one of my number does not has Web pack on it, and I notice a horrible battery performance on the device and I am
Later on, I activied my internet on phone and here comes my theory.
I notice the Wifi is always running for some reason on the background even if I set it as turn of when screen off, when I check the battery usage, it shows almost every second that wifi is on. That should not be right, it should turn it self off when screen off, and it is not doing that.
Second of all, later on, I noticed something like *WIFI* shows under battery usage, and I was thinking what the heck is that, cause there is another "WIFI" still showing, and also something called" .com.motorola.contact. something like that is waking the phone and using the wifi as well.
And there also something like"motorola.home" running and using wifi for ages. Very strange.
OK, then I went out today, yes, I most of the time stay @ home, na I am joking..
I am mostly in a place with WIFI, home, work place, and Uni. All wifi here and there. Today, I took train 3 hrs total out and back from Birmingham to London for those who like stories. it was 1:30 afternoon battery @ 80% then I listen to music for 1 hr and use whatsapp quite a bit(battery hunger app even on iOS)
On the way back I played GTA 3 for one good hour. and it is now 9PM, and 15% left, as later on I tweet a bit, web a bit. which is good, also I took underground so signal is not always there.
After all these my question is for those who had the battery drain, are U in a wifi enviornment quite a bit time and use wifi?
If so, set the wifi sleep policy to Never(this actually will help) and while not using wifi to use heavy data stuff, turn it OFF and see what happen.
Also turn off GPS espically if you have facebook on phone and also the using wirelsess connection for location, turn that off as well.
BTW the GPS on Razr is reallllllly fast on location, it took 5 second to find me from cold boot. Awesome.
And I don't use task killer or smart action, I think using sensor and active these sensor to save battery while they are using a lot juice is not so smart.
BTW: due to I am on and off subway, my iPhone4s dropped a good 15% without any use, it just sitting in my pocket. (as for now, Android is the fun bit, iOS is the backup, as it does hold battery better a bit...lol)
I am on 2.3.6 (651.167.19.XT910.retail.en.EU)
I flash the rom couple of times, it all shows me WIFI is doing some strange thing.
Today still draining and I use a data usage checker and find that moto blur is using a hug a mount of data, WTF!?
I find battery performance vastly better on wifi than 3G. Mine has had atrociously bad battery life recently, so I'm backtracking through stock ROMs to see if I can replicate the setup I got 5+ hours of screen-on time with.
Gotta love those updates. The sooner data works properly in custom ICS ROMs for the XT912, the better.
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before a week i got v3c with version want to extend battery does any one know if it comes with door ??
give us a link have a look? I am looking for the Maxx to replace on my normal razr
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I've been using SetCPU to create profiles on the ondemand governor and extrapolating from my general usage during commute, news/texts/im, fair amount of screen on time, I'm getting around 10% drain per hour which is fairly nice. With screen off and 3g running leaving the phone to idle, it drops to around 3-4% per hour which is significantly better from what I was getting right out of the box.
Battery test for Motorola RAZR XT910
Yesterday I decided to do a simple test with my new smartphone, a Motorola RAZR, I shall not charge until he get just 15% of battery remaining. So here I will put the results and thoughts about it.
8:00 AM: I woke up and took XT910 off the charger. Wi-fi was turned on;
8:00 - 9:00 AM: I passed one hour using Pulse to read some news, once or twice I shared some news in the Twitter and Facebook, with the Wi-fi on, of course. The Battery got 85%;
9:00 - 10:00 AM: I started to use Whatsapp to chat with a buddy, took at least 45 minutes of intensive use, battery got 70%;
10:00 - 11:00 AM: Cellphone in stand-by, BUT with the wi-fi on, waiting for someone, battery got 60% yet!;
11:00 - 12:00 AM: That one appeared, so I used Whatsapp again for 30 minutes, and battery got 50%;
12:00 AM - 2:00 PM: Two hours with the cells blocked, but still with wireless connection, 40%;
2:00 PM – 4:00 PM: Motorola in stand-by, now with the wi-fi turned off, so, in the first hour, he keep 40% and in the second, he got 30%;
4:00 PM – 5:15 PM: The final test, I passed just one hour playing Ceramic Destroyer without stopping, the battery got 15% and then the phone asked for charging!;
Well, the battery last for 8 hours with wi-fi turned on almost all time, so I think it's was fair, BUT, the battery status is a bit fake, I don't think that the information was correct, but, it works when is a simple test, you know, right?
We all know about the 1,2 Ghz processor, this drains a lot of battery, but the real villain is the connection, wi-fi or 3G, they both spend so much energy of the cel.
My last thought is... always charge your phone when it's possible, even if you don't use in an intensive form, I hope that you'll not have problems because a low-batterys cell phone.
One thing I've found is that when my battery is draining like a tub it's has nothing to do with any data connection. In running apps there's a media process that keeps my phone running at full bore. If I just kill that I get dramatically better battery life. Normally when I don't have to deal with that I can last all day with a quick touch up charge during the middle of the day. This on my xt912.
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keeb119 said:
One thing I've found is that when my battery is draining like a tub it's has nothing to do with any data connection. In running apps there's a media process that keeps my phone running at full bore. If I just kill that I get dramatically better battery life. Normally when I don't have to deal with that I can last all day with a quick touch up charge during the middle of the day. This on my xt912.
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your right, certain apps can affect battery life so it is ok to kill running task. however just want to make sure other users know that using task killer to constantly kill many apps is not a good idea! most of the apps will prob restart and this cycle will only drain your battery more. whatsapp is a good example, even they state on their homepage you should remove from task killing as battery would drain not just from the constant restart of the app but also the fact that it would continue to regain connection to their server whenever it restarts.
try use a dark colour like black as you know white colour drains much more battery. if your a constant user of google (maybe even if its your homepage too) try use the black google version. save some battery.
i think personally for me 3g uses more battery than wifi. another factor is the network bars that drains battery if low as constantly hanging onto that low connection.
you should try flight mode and see how the battery fairs there so you can get a rough idea.
also come across an app called FreshNetwork which is a signal booster & finder. Android Market - 4.7 out of 5 Star overall rating! (9,152) as i speak, and it does work.. theres been times where ive had 1 bar connections but after using it i get like 3/4bars. so it helps ease the battery drain there as connection is much better.
hope its of some help guys!!
I know theres is some apps that drains battery, one tip is just deactive the auto-sync with your accounts, other thing, I want a batterystatus app, to know better that stuff.
And I will try this connection app, thanks
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Man I even turned off my smart actions, so far I only turn on things when I am really using them. Auto-sync only with wifi!
Mobzter said:
your right, certain apps can affect battery life so it is ok to kill running task. however just want to make sure other users know that using task killer to constantly kill many apps is not a good idea! most of the apps will prob restart and this cycle will only drain your battery more. whatsapp is a good example, even they state on their homepage you should remove from task killing as battery would drain not just from the constant restart of the app but also the fact that it would continue to regain connection to their server whenever it restarts.
try use a dark colour like black as you know white colour drains much more battery. if your a constant user of google (maybe even if its your homepage too) try use the black google version. save some battery.
i think personally for me 3g uses more battery than wifi. another factor is the network bars that drains battery if low as constantly hanging onto that low connection.
you should try flight mode and see how the battery fairs there so you can get a rough idea.
also come across an app called FreshNetwork which is a signal booster & finder. Android Market - 4.7 out of 5 Star overall rating! (9,152) as i speak, and it does work.. theres been times where ive had 1 bar connections but after using it i get like 3/4bars. so it helps ease the battery drain there as connection is much better.
hope its of some help guys!!
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Its something stock with the phone. I just got a second and it still does it. I haven't figured out what starts it. But once I kill it, like I said my battery life is fantastic.
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keeb119 said:
Its something stock with the phone. I just got a second and it still does it. I haven't figured out what starts it. But once I kill it, like I said my battery life is fantastic.
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what did you kill?
there are some very important factors of battery draining follow
Display Timeout,Display Brightness,Bluetooth Inactivity
I've complied a list of battery saving tips and put them on my blog! Please do have a look!
The link to my blog is in my signature!
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I've complied a list of battery saving tips and put them on my blog! Please do have a look!
The link to my blog is in my signature!
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hey first of all nice site secondly your tips are pretty much on the dot.. just thought of these apps people might find useful
autostarts - helps with disabling apps from auto starting when phone boots up (may be slightly speed up boot?) & also prevent certain app event triggers (maybe an app permission u aint happy with?)
FreshNetwork - helps locate better signals in which in return would improve battery life
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In running processes, the vague media process. Auto starts and kills battery quickly.
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Mobzter said:
hey first of all nice site secondly your tips are pretty much on the dot.. just thought of these apps people might find useful
autostarts - helps with disabling apps from auto starting when phone boots up (may be slightly speed up boot?) & also prevent certain app event triggers (maybe an app permission u aint happy with?)
FreshNetwork - helps locate better signals in which in return would improve battery life
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Thanks for the suggestions! I have added them to the list of battery tweaks!
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I know this question has been asked really lots of times, but I didn't seem to find cases similar to mine.
there doesn't seem to be any wakelock (except 2 which is incredibly short) and it was in deep sleep mode all the time. but yet, it drains almost 5% per hour which i find is really too much...
I've tried lots of firmware (litening, wamanlite, turkbey, stock, ICS) and removed all the unnecessary bloatware to reduce wakelocks to a state as shown in attachment. but still, they do not have any results, still get less than 1 day life without any usage at all...
Could this be hardware problem? I find it gets hot really fast even when i'm just facebooking.
Or is there anything else can i try to do? this device really started to disappoint me ever since the battery life looks like this.
any help will be greatly appreciated.
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I know this question has been asked really lots of times, but I didn't seem to find cases similar to mine.
there doesn't seem to be any wakelock (except 2 which is incredibly short) and it was in deep sleep mode all the time. but yet, it drains almost 5% per hour which i find is really too much...
I've tried lots of firmware (litening, wamanlite, turkbey, stock, ICS) and removed all the unnecessary bloatware to reduce wakelocks to a state as shown in attachment. but still, they do not have any results, still get less than 1 day life without any usage at all...
Could this be hardware problem? I find it gets hot really fast even when i'm just facebooking.
Or is there anything else can i try to do? this device really started to disappoint me ever since the battery life looks like this.
any help will be greatly appreciated.
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maybe try out BetterBatteryStats, duuno but maybe this could help?!
cheers and good luck!
Try Hydrogen-ICS latest version, it seems to be "the rom" today
Battery life is very good and its overall a stable system.
Make sure to "Fix Permission" after first start, reboot recovery and do it.
Also sometimes "to much junk" in your SD card can cause battery drain, copy your files and format the SD card, you might see some diffrence. (i did)
tonyvyp said:
I know this question has been asked really lots of times, but I didn't seem to find cases similar to mine.
there doesn't seem to be any wakelock (except 2 which is incredibly short) and it was in deep sleep mode all the time. but yet, it drains almost 5% per hour which i find is really too much...
I've tried lots of firmware (litening, wamanlite, turkbey, stock, ICS) and removed all the unnecessary bloatware to reduce wakelocks to a state as shown in attachment. but still, they do not have any results, still get less than 1 day life without any usage at all...
Could this be hardware problem? I find it gets hot really fast even when i'm just facebooking.
Or is there anything else can i try to do? this device really started to disappoint me ever since the battery life looks like this.
any help will be greatly appreciated.
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you got 20Hrs out of your phone? grats! as of lately i've been trying alot of different roms and different customization settings from kernel tweeks to CPU tweeks (undervolting/underclocking) and im even turning off every extra setting that consumes battery power apart from wifi
on best with a 2000Mah battery i get 13 hrs on standby and 4 hrs if im playing a game - these days my phone doesnt charge anymore - it discharges even when plugged in
I recommend downloading HydrogenICS, it's good! Download Battery drain, so you can see how fast your battery is being drained.. Also, let your battery go down to 5% then charge your phone
Something is seriously wrong - you've hardly used it, looking at those graphs.
I'd try a stock anything, and if you get similar drainage send it in for repair/buy a new battery.
this is'nt normal , in sleep mode i can get 20 hours and only lose 9%
use hydrogen and neak , and try , if you get the same result so it will be hardware fault
the 3g data it kills the batt very fast,i don think u got a hardware prblm,cause 20hrs an still to go is good ive seen ppl reporting worse...dude instal better batt stat,3g watch dog but remember batt saver apps too run in bckgrnd so i suggest u stay on a stable rom wiv a custum kernel like siyah or neak an watch the batt in better batt stat.....wen i need more juice i switch to airplane mode in nite then rebot in the morning....i don hav any tweaks or uv,oc but ive seen the batt is very good wen i don use the data or wifi or download or update,pm me if any doubt......cheeeerz
You flashed different ROMs the last days? First thing is you should only flash with full battery and after flashing it needs some time (three full battery cycles e.g.) untill the battery works fine for the ROM.
And you may recallibrate your battery. Turn the mobile off and load the battery to full. Then go to CWM and reset your batterystats. Now unload till the mobile goes of and reload to full with mobile off. If you doe this for e.g. 3 times the battery should be recalibrated.
I must say Omegas ICS + Speedmod or Siyahs Kernel. Best ever. Or checkout Paradoxxxs rom very stable but for me not so good xD
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Something is seriously wrong - you've hardly used it, looking at those graphs.
I'd try a stock anything, and if you get similar drainage send it in for repair/buy a new battery.
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yea i know right...i'll try Hydrogen ICS as they everyone recommended and see how it goes first.
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this is'nt normal , in sleep mode i can get 20 hours and only lose 9%
use hydrogen and neak , and try , if you get the same result so it will be hardware fault
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what is "neak"? sorry i am still newbie
rocky23 said:
the 3g data it kills the batt very fast,i don think u got a hardware prblm,cause 20hrs an still to go is good ive seen ppl reporting worse...dude instal better batt stat,3g watch dog but remember batt saver apps too run in bckgrnd so i suggest u stay on a stable rom wiv a custum kernel like siyah or neak an watch the batt in better batt stat.....wen i need more juice i switch to airplane mode in nite then rebot in the morning....i don hav any tweaks or uv,oc but ive seen the batt is very good wen i don use the data or wifi or download or update,pm me if any doubt......cheeeerz
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bro, 20 hours is with 99% deep sleep is seriously wrong. better battery stats cant tell me nothing, since i have no wakelocks or whatever, and all those battery savers apps, they spent more battery than they can save. when those screenshot is taken, i can tell you for sure, bluetooth, gps, 3g, wifi, auto sync etc everything was turned off. even brightness is 10% (which is even lower than auto brightness settings). anyway thanks for the reply
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You flashed different ROMs the last days? First thing is you should only flash with full battery and after flashing it needs some time (three full battery cycles e.g.) untill the battery works fine for the ROM.
And you may recallibrate your battery. Turn the mobile off and load the battery to full. Then go to CWM and reset your batterystats. Now unload till the mobile goes of and reload to full with mobile off. If you doe this for e.g. 3 times the battery should be recalibrated.
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nope, i always try at least 5-6 battery cycles after flashing to see the real graph. and i've read in this forum somewhere, calibrating battery by deleting batterystats is useless for this phone.
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I must say Omegas ICS + Speedmod or Siyahs Kernel. Best ever. Or checkout Paradoxxxs rom very stable but for me not so good xD
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speedmod is a kernel like siyah rite? i've use siyah before, but it doesn't seem like much help. nonetheless, will try them ^^
thanks for all the replies and recommendation, will try different rom & update again (probably in 4-5 days for trying 2 roms
I have exactly same problem. On GB over night(7 hours), battery consumption was around 9%. On ICS more than 20%, but nobody touch phone. I try few roms: wanamlite, omega, bezke, pure. Now i have hydrogen. Better battery stats shows nothing special. Only thing what i can think is wi-fi. if i turn off seams to be better, not that dramatic, but anyway not that good like on GB.
strange...
let me ask this... what does the yellow color in the phone signal mean? anybody got any clue?
shouldn't it be green/gray ?
in my phone whenever i have green/gray in the battery view the bar hardly goes down on idle but i see a big drain compared to green/gray when it becomes yellow even in idle
let me post a pic to clarify...
i was complaining about sudden batt drop on cm9 ics, i know its 2 diff roms but still the yellow bar got my attention in both pics...
just searched google and came up with red= no signal, yellow=very bad signal to no signal, green = good signal/full
bad signal makes the phone look for the signal in a bad way using a lot of the battery...
guess i found out why my batt suddenly dropped so bad compared to the rest of the bar...
id suggest flashing a couple of modems and testing how good of a signal u get with each and sticking with the one that works for u, if its a weak signal from the provider then find a better provider that covers ur place with better reception...
start from there and then if batt life is still bad search search and search... best of luck with ur phone...
@mazroui
in those 7 hours your phone should lost 9 - 10% of battery, but not more than 20 unused, what is process causing that usage?
for me: i charged phone before sleep, when wake up after 7h i had 20% left.
Android OS - 92% , rest for cell standby, phone idle and screen. Wi-fi was setup to sleep when screen is off. Better batery stats show that wi-fi was on for almost whole time
Cell Standby and Phone Idle using that much of your power means that the signal in your area is horrible and the phone is struggling to maintain a decent connection with the towers, this can drain a tremendous amount of battery depending on how bad the signal really is, the yellow bar means it's not optimal but there is a large degree of variation between the top end and bottom end of the yellow bar spectrum. Try a different modem or move your phone to an area with better reception and see if you still get this sort of drain.
Android OS is misreported by practically every Kernel because for some reason Samsung accidentally made Screen On add to the Android OS bar, so your Android OS usage is actually AOS + Screen On, for the most part high AOS usage can be ignored as a source of drain using the phone info battery screen, I would look elsewhere for the problem. Sometimes rogue apps hide their wake locks in another wake lock, for instance if you have facebook or many of the IM programs on your system, they poll their servers a lot causing a kernel wake lock called 'svnet dormancy' (in gb) or 'multipdp' (in ics) this causes a lock of 5s to ensure proper packet transfer, if your app is requesting packets every 4 seconds, then its essentially a permanent wake lock but may not be reported as the app being the source.
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strange...
let me ask this... what does the yellow color in the phone signal mean? anybody got any clue?
shouldn't it be green/gray ?
in my phone whenever i have green/gray in the battery view the bar hardly goes down on idle but i see a big drain compared to green/gray when it becomes yellow even in idle
let me post a pic to clarify...
i was complaining about sudden batt drop on cm9 ics, i know its 2 diff roms but still the yellow bar got my attention in both pics...
just searched google and came up with red= no signal, yellow=very bad signal to no signal, green = good signal/full
bad signal makes the phone look for the signal in a bad way using a lot of the battery...
guess i found out why my batt suddenly dropped so bad compared to the rest of the bar...
id suggest flashing a couple of modems and testing how good of a signal u get with each and sticking with the one that works for u, if its a weak signal from the provider then find a better provider that covers ur place with better reception...
start from there and then if batt life is still bad search search and search... best of luck with ur phone...
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IF yellow means poor signals then strangely iam getting yellow line but the signal bar shows full signals on home screen.
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cuteboy1 said:
IF yellow means poor signals then strangely iam getting yellow line but the signal bar shows full signals on home screen.
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There is a defect with Android where good signal strength is mis-reported on this screen as yellow, even if you have 100% signal.
Until you go to About Phone > Status, just once. Then when you go back to this screen, it will start reporting as green if you have good signal.
I've tested this out on my phone, and confirmed it... try it out yourself.
I stopped caring about it, so I just ignore it unless it gets reported as red.
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Cell Standby and Phone Idle using that much of your power means that the signal in your area is horrible and the phone is struggling to maintain a decent connection with the towers, this can drain a tremendous amount of battery depending on how bad the signal really is, the yellow bar means it's not optimal but there is a large degree of variation between the top end and bottom end of the yellow bar spectrum. Try a different modem or move your phone to an area with better reception and see if you still get this sort of drain.
Android OS is misreported by practically every Kernel because for some reason Samsung accidentally made Screen On add to the Android OS bar, so your Android OS usage is actually AOS + Screen On, for the most part high AOS usage can be ignored as a source of drain using the phone info battery screen, I would look elsewhere for the problem. Sometimes rogue apps hide their wake locks in another wake lock, for instance if you have facebook or many of the IM programs on your system, they poll their servers a lot causing a kernel wake lock called 'svnet dormancy' (in gb) or 'multipdp' (in ics) this causes a lock of 5s to ensure proper packet transfer, if your app is requesting packets every 4 seconds, then its essentially a permanent wake lock but may not be reported as the app being the source.
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Signal in my area is far from perfection, but in same location, on GB i had 9% consumed over night, but not 70 %. I turn off GPS, BT, leave only wi-fi and data. And over night when nobody touch phone, screen is off.
kangi74 said:
Signal in my area is far from perfection, but in same location, on GB i had 9% consumed over night, but not 70 %. I turn off GPS, BT, leave only wi-fi and data. And over night when nobody touch phone, screen is off.
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If you look at the graph in the right pic you can see that the curve is less severe when WiFi is active, while this doesn't prove my point that its a network issue it does increase my suspicion that the issue is mobile data related.
kangi74 said:
Signal in my area is far from perfection, but in same location, on GB i had 9% consumed over night, but not 70 %. I turn off GPS, BT, leave only wi-fi and data. And over night when nobody touch phone, screen is off.
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Something is horribly wrong with that. Do a full wipe. If it still does that, reflash your firmware. If it STILL does that, maybe flash to a newer stock ICS firmware? Then as a last resort, you may want to go back to GB.
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If you look at the graph in the right pic you can see that the curve is less severe when WiFi is active, while this doesn't prove my point that its a network issue it does increase my suspicion that the issue is mobile data related.
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This guy may be onto something, actually. First thing you should try is flashing a different modem. THEN do all the stuff I said above.
EDIT: just noticed you're in Oz. Try flashing a T modem. Most Australian users report much better results with both battery and signal after doing this.
Razr MAXX running ICS leak
I decided to let my battery run down to zero last night and let it charge while I sleep. I got to work this morning and just notice my battery is at 50%! The only change I really made yesterday was re-enabling smart actions, and setting a wifi connected trigger to turn data off. I'm thinking this may be the cause of the drain. Here are some screens.
i.imgur.com/NIfXz.jpg
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I have no clue what "deleted_wake_locks" is. All my google results seem to point to wifi usage, and am thinking there is an issue with Smart Actions and Wifi might be the culprits.
uberbdon said:
Razr MAXX running ICS leak
I decided to let my battery run down to zero last night and let it charge while I sleep. I got to work this morning and just notice my battery is at 50%! The only change I really made yesterday was re-enabling smart actions, and setting a wifi connected trigger to turn data off. I'm thinking this may be the cause of the drain. Here are some screens.
I have no clue what "deleted_wake_locks" is. All my google results seem to point to wifi usage, and am thinking there is an issue with Smart Actions and Wifi might be the culprits.
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There is an app that is not letting your wifi sleep.
Something is keeping your wifi on all the time and eating up your battery. Check out this app in the market and report back with the results, it's called "My Data Manager" and it will tell you which app or process is eating up all your wifi. Let me know what it says.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobidia.android.mdm&hl=en
This might be helpful as well, this guy changed the DTIM interval on his router and it fixed his issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14510569&postcount=1564
I've found on the stock rom, the Verizon wifi control app works well for turning wifi on and off by cellular location, ive heard tasker does this well also. Ive had no luck with smart actions. You also might want to go to settings, wireless, wifi settings, hit menu, then advanced settings, then change the sleep policy, if you have root you could also change the scan interval by editing the build.prop or using rom tool box. But do kill the wake lock, it not only keeps the wifi from sleeping, it also keeps your phone from going into its low power state
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I am having a similar problem with my Razr (not MAXX). Just today i noticed the phone getting hot in my pocket. I then saw the battery was almost dead after only 4 hours unplugged and very little use. I recently rooted and flashed the clutch extreme version. I dont use wifi. I have autokilled everything useless, ive checked the running apps and nothing wierd seems to be running, in the battery usuage, after 4 hours unplugged "google services" and "android os" both had 33% of the battery use. But like i said i cant see what is draning it...any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Even im having some issue there's a process called Media which always is 92% and eats lot of battery.....so is there any way to kill this process?
If your phone is rooted my advice is to use ti backup and freeze the bloat ware the list of pre installed apps safe to freeze/uninstall can be found in the forum, when your phone reports "android os" "system" "media" its a general term that covers built in apps. The major culprit ive found is Verizon's back up apps, media is probably motocast, try mulling around in the settings and set the sync settings to as minimal as possible, also if you guys don't mind, I'm curious about this, when i first had batt life problems i ran voodoo ota and disabled root and forgot to re-enable root, with bloat and all i seemed to have better bat life, anyone want to test and see if its the same for them? Wondering if Verizon is being sneaky, and pulling carrier iq -esqe info from rooted stock
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Never let your battery go down to zero. That is very bad for lithium batteries.
ok guys i found solution to media process.....Android media was trying to update it's music player and galery and since there were some media files which were too big in size and seems other files were corrupt so Media was trying to read them and thus eating up lot of clock cycles and thus draining battery. So once you identify which media file is causing the problem then media process get's minimal. About android OS process there's nothing we can do except to freeze some bloat.
Another way to disable media, though you have to do it every time you reboot, is to kill the process in running process in settings then applications. Mine does the same thing.
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Never let your battery go down to zero. That is very bad for lithium batteries.
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I was under the impression that the android os has a safety built in that keeps you from actually reaching 0, and the process of draining your phone until it shuts off, wiping battery stats in recovery, and charging too full while shut down was more to retrain the os to see 100% at a closer point to full and 0% at a lower safe point of shutdown... i know flashing roms not at 100% battery can muck up the scale, a good indicator is that your phone shuts off from low battery, you reboot and it reports a something like 20-30% battery
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Never let your battery go down to zero. That is very bad for lithium batteries.
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I would assume this is true for all android devices but at least for Razr I can assure you that it will turn off the phone before the battery gets below the critical voltage. That said it is almost always better to recharge well before it gets that low and as much as it is possible charge to full. I almost always charge over night.
Has anyone noticed significant battery drain whilst the screen is off, my phone loses around 1-3 % every hour even when there are no programs running. I have monitored the running apps and uninstalled many that were running in the background. Does this mean that the 5th core is not activating or am I doing something wrong, google now, wifi, bluetooth, 3g, etc are all turned off, If anyone experiences similar issues or knows a solution please post, other than that the battery life on this device is actually pretty good despite all the people stating how horrible and unsatisfactory it may be.
I believe someone mentioned that the WiFi is the cause of the drain while the phone is on, is your WiFi on while it's sleeping?
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Google Now may cause battery drain while on standby, I think. You might want to install Better Battery Stats so you'll know what's eating up your battery while the phone is in sleep mode.
My WiFi, Bluetooth and 3g are all turned off and Google now has been disabled, don't know what is causing the drain but the people over at the original one X forum are sating that standby drain is higher as of the jb update which I find odd seeing that the battery life is better screen on.
Turn off auto sync & just enable it when you need to, or use an app that will enable it for you after a certain time period.
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Nah I can go a day and half on stand by with little use. I have 30+ apps installed and mods to firmware plus nik3r's custom elite kernel.
I'd say its one of your obscure apps you still have I stalled. Do a factory reset on your phone and install each app one at a time each hr monitoring the drain till you find the culprit.
Install nik3r's kernel.
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1) go to Facebook app, disable chat, disable location... disable auto updates/notifications too if you can. This crap (especially the latest version) can take 20% of your battery life easily.
2) go to Google Maps settings, disable all the tracking/reporting options out there (up to 15% battery life without ever even starting the map app)
3) install EliteKernel and use power saving if you need that extra standby juice (it actually saves power in my flavor compared to the stock version)
There - fixed.
Wifi is not the issue, I get better life on 100% wifi than on data connection. It's the apps that actually use tha data.
Thanks guys much better now!
turn off this, do not use that.....
if is this the solution what is this? a phone or what?
only hope a room that end with this battery drain, is not normal that my wife S3, the same battery (2100mA) like hox+ has more hours, and not only 1 or 2, 6 hours more battery life, both without use.... in the same place, we did it as a test and..... that´s the Q, why? we have the same apps installed, and we have the same on, wifi, data, gps, blutooth..... the same conditions