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Well after the WOW effect wore off my phone, i am starting to HATE the flaws.
I bought this phone outright for a hefty $600 and hoping i did not waste my money switching over from blackberry.
MY problems
Bluetooth disconnects every 15 minutes, plus sounds like garbage, i did some reading on this and its a common problem yet appears to not be addressed yet? i am using a Jawbone Icon by the way and its dual connected to my work BB
Data(HSPDA) randomly disconnects at least once every 2 days and requires me to pull the battery to get it back going.
Battery drain is beyond crazy, i cant get 5 hours out of the phone with moderate use.
This thing heats up like crazy!!!
I know the last two things are software related, and people say upgrade to KG2, well my phone had 2.3.3 and KG2 and this is what it shipped with, so what should i go to?
Or can i just solve all of these issue by rooting the phone? if so, i will go that route.
Thanks.
Dustin
if you want to go that way(rooting,FLashing Roms)
Think twice, the SGS2 has a binary counter that counts how many times you flashed unofficial software on the phone,
if you brick it or something happens, screen breaks etc, you might ran into some problems @ samsung if they check the counter
you can reset it yourself by buying a JIG, google it!
I've had no issues with my bluetooth headset (logitech freepluse). i'd guess it doesnt like being dual connected
I've had no issues with losing my data connection (i did on galaxy s though). how strong is your signal before you lose it?
as for the battery drain, make sure you're exiting your apps + all the usual other stuff (turn off sync, wifi, bt, set to autobrightness). 2.3.3 does have the drainage issue for some people. i'm on villainrom 2.3.4 and have no drainage issues
rooting won't help you out.
HSDPA disconnects? if you have H always on that means you are either downloading or uploading something most of the time, H only turns on when there is data being pulled or sent, you should see the 3G icon MOST of the time, if you are streaming music/video then you'll see the H kicking in.
I have a Jawbone Cruiser and have no issues whatsoever I have 2 devices paired to it but only 1 at a time, A2DP works flawless and it even sounds better than the original Galaxy S.
duggyb said:
Well after the WOW effect wore off my phone, i am starting to HATE the flaws.
I bought this phone outright for a hefty $600 and hoping i did not waste my money switching over from blackberry.
MY problems
Bluetooth disconnects every 15 minutes, plus sounds like garbage, i did some reading on this and its a common problem yet appears to not be addressed yet? i am using a Jawbone Icon by the way and its dual connected to my work BB
I get zero disconnect .
Data(HSPDA) randomly disconnects at least once every 2 days and requires me to pull the battery to get it back going.
never happened yet on many roms .
This thing heats up like crazy!!!
Warm but not overhot .
I know the last two things are software related, and people say upgrade to KG2, well my phone had 2.3.3 and KG2 and this is what it shipped with, so what should i go to?
KH3 latest stock firmware on this forum .
Or can i just solve all of these issue by rooting the phone? if so, i will go that route.
Rooting has nothing to do with battery problems all it does if give user a lower level access to the OS .
Hundreds of battery problem posts with tips methods etc but for me the starter has to be ,
better battery stats .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Find what apps are draining the battery .
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duggyb said:
Or can i just solve all of these issue by rooting the phone? if so, i will go that route.
Thanks.
Dustin
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Rooting will not solve these issues, but I can maybe enable you to start solving it.
However, before you start messing with kernels and firmwares I would really try to find out if some of the problems might be hardware related or not. If so, you could use your warranty to get a new one or get it fixed. Once you start messing with custom software you're never sure if they will grant you the warranty or not.
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Dear me another Apple fanboy on here
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not sure where you get that from? i actually hate apple and take that post as quite an insult, one and only thing i ever owned from them was a ipod way back, and it got stolen 2 mths after i bought it and i never replaced it.
that aside, i came from a Blackberry Curve 8330, although it sucked, it did have good bluetooth connectivity,decent battery life, and did not heat up, keep in mind it was a CDMA phone.
so i know i have some changes to expect with a new network, but it appears lots of these have been fixed by people and i am just trying to understand the software and device, KG2 KY this,etc is all new to me, so i have been reading lots but find it confusing since its so vast.
needless to say it will be kind of disappointing if i cant connect 2 devices to my jawbone icon at the same time and work flawless, as this is huge for me.
Also i NEVER see 3G data show up on my phone, its always the H with up and down arrows, should i see 3G? im up in Canada(Saskatchewan to be exact)
It appears i should update from KG2, yet KIES shows no update, i have not dove into Odin to try that out, maybe i should?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Dustin
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Dear me another Apple fanboy on here :rolleyes
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To be scrupulously fair, the OP confesses to having come from Blackberry.
He is therefore not the spawn of Satan, merely just a second cousin of a minor demon...
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To be scrupulously fair, the OP confesses to having come from Blackberry.
He is therefore not the spawn of Satan, merely just a second cousin of a minor demon...
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fair enough Blackberry not quite as bad unless your planning on rioting in your town or city
ill do my best
lool! some of these guys on here are too funny. ok how the f*** are u only getting 5 hours? i get 14-16hrs moderate use . i really would suggest rooting your phone. it really helps! i mean with the overheating problem i have under volted and under clocked my cpu and my phone doesnt heat up no more! woooop! lol. funny that my 3g and bluetooth is perfectly fine. oh and rooting is very very easy now and odin is quality and... simple . as im typing this im flashing another rom, lol. flashaholic . its a really good phone and ive had many many phones.
so now i have mixed reviews? should i root or not.
i really just want to solve my issues!
i installed Battery Stats but have no idea how to screenshot?
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so now i have mixed reviews? should i root or not.
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Rooting doesn't solve anything, just gives you access to hidden files. You need to flash a newer rom(kh3 or kh5) and hope it fixes those issues.
I agree with the above poster, I've been using android since inception and I don't believe in rooting a phone to mask the issues you are having, upgrade the software, there are many roms to choose from, get the device running well before you think about rooting.
People are giving new android users the impression that rooting is the answer for phone issues, it is not.
Rooting is for advanced users who want the extra access to explore the power of android.
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I don't understand why everyone seems to be pushing the USB JIG, it's like there are people making and selling them here or something.
@BrokenPixel, H or H+ doesn't drop to 3G as fast, if your Telco doesn't support Fast Dormancy, or you have Fast Dormancy disabled.
I like Blackberries, it is lacking as a end-user smartphone, however for companies, I still like the privacy with point to point encryption. Android does not have that unless you purchase a 3rd party application which means both parties have to have it as well. Again, it really depends on what you are using the phone for. I still recommend using the right tools for the right job.
@Gustopher, calling Blackberries a "second cousin of a minor demon..." is like calling a screwdriver the bane of our existence, or a hammer "the killer of thumbs..."
peachpuff is correct, instead of rooting your phone, perhaps you should try changing the modem to something else instead, try KH3, KG6, KF4, KE4. Perhaps in the mentioned order. It really covers most regions, since we don't know where you are at!
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I don't understand why everyone seems to be pushing the USB JIG, it's like there are people making and selling them here or something.
@BrokenPixel, H or H+ doesn't drop to 3G as fast, if your Telco doesn't support Fast Dormancy, or you have Fast Dormancy disabled.
I like Blackberries, it is lacking as a end-user smartphone, however for companies, I still like the privacy with point to point encryption. Android does not have that unless you purchase a 3rd party application which means both parties have to have it as well. Again, it really depends on what you are using the phone for. I still recommend using the right tools for the right job.
@Gustopher, calling Blackberries a "second cousin of a minor demon..." is like calling a screwdriver the bane of our existence, or a hammer "the killer of thumbs..."
peachpuff is correct, instead of rooting your phone, perhaps you should try changing the modem to something else instead, try KH3, KG6, KF4, KE4. Perhaps in the mentioned order. It really covers most regions, since we don't know where you are at!
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Thank you for actually being informative.
I am in Canada by the way(Saskatchewan) and i am running on the Sasktel network(Bell essentially)
I always thought i had to root in order to install something different then KG2?
i am not sure what my network supports, but i have NEVER seen 3g since the day i bought it.
i have turned off some of the recommended things to save battery life, it seems to be helping, we will see what i get
If your problems are related to your settings, flashing newer firmware (KG5 for example, works fine with me) will only really help if you do a complete wipe/factory reset. See the guides for that.
That would be done best by rooting with CF-root, going into CWM-recovery, doing a backup there, do all "wipes", reboot straight into download mode and flash the fresh firmware via Odin. The guides are all there.
Just make sure to play with some settings like gsm/wcdma in your network settings first.
5hrs use?
Your blackberry gave much better battery?
Sorry, but your talking absolute ****e!
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5hrs use?
Your blackberry gave much better battery?
Sorry, but your talking absolute ****e!
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Have you never heard of BB's? He came from a Curve..basically a glorified pager. He could probably go 3 days on that thing with a single charge. Kind of like going from a Commodore 64 to a high end laptop.
One thing I haven't heard mentioned about rooting is the fact with root you can install Titanium Backup..and with the Pro version..freeze apps (instead of deleting) which allows you to fiddle with perhaps some rogue apps that are draining your battery.
As usual with most Androids..make sure you don't have FB or Twitter syncing crazily (and if you're running multiple tweet or FB programs..be sure they aren't syncing as well). I'm not familiar with Touchwiz..but if they have their own "social networking" apps that you don't use (and you use the actual apps themselves instead) be sure to check those and make sure they arent sync'ing either (and better yet freeze them with TiBu).
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5hrs use?
Your blackberry gave much better battery?
Sorry, but your talking absolute ****e!
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yes i am lying to your face in order to get you to help me fix my phone.....:facepalm
A. i get FIVE HOURS with moderate use on my current I9100
B. i ad a BB curve 8330 i would get 14-16 hours moderate use.
so no, i am not talking "****e"
Hi,
On my AT&T Atrix 4G, with Alien-4 as well as cherryblur ROM - when the device is put on standby by using the power button, camera hardware stops working. Is there any way, using any hack or custom kernel etc. to keep the camera hardware awake when device is on standby? I have heard that even Droid X has the same issue.
On the Samsung phones I used (Galaxy 3 / Galaxy S / Galaxy Ace), camera hardware works even when the device is on standby.
Any help is much appreciated
thanks
probably for battery saving reasons... is there a reason you need this?
It could also be there for the security reasons to prevent the user filming secretly....
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It could also be there for the security reasons to prevent the user filming secretly....
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To stop people being shopping mall escalator pervs.
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probably for battery saving reasons... is there a reason you need this?
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Yeah, it is to record criminals and corrupt officers. It doesn't happen when the device is being charged, so it is likely designed to save battery.
Is there any way to make the phone believe it is being charged when it is actually not? It is a rooted device.
Not sure.. there are spy cams available in market.. just remember all state and federal laws concerning this, as you can be jailed.
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Hey folks,
New guy here, just picked up a new LG Optimus G on AT&T yesterday afternoon to replace my aging Samsung GS2. This was a somewhat quickly made decision (for me anyway) so I haven't done as much research on the LGOG as I typically do before purchasing a new device...it's quite possible I missed something stupid. If so, flame away...
As of right now, I'm stock/unrooted, with a small number of primary use apps installed. While screwing around getting familiar with the device yesterday, I noticed a high level of msm_hsic_host wakelocks, with an apparently related but smaller amount of suspend_backoff wakelocks in Better Battery Stats. CPUSpy indicated approximately 25% deep sleep for the run, which was about10 hours from purchase to going to bed - with a partial charge in the middle.
This concerned me slightly, so I let the device charge overnight, then unplugged this morning and let her go on a screen-off draindown test. Did a 50 minute run, which resulted in zero battery drain (still at 100% for a few moments when I lit the screen up at the end of the run) but ZERO deep sleep. The vast majority of the run was spent at 384 MHz, with small amounts at 1512. This run was done while on an ATT microcell for calls and WiFi on for data (set to stay on with screen off). Background data was on. While I am quite impressed that I'm seeing 1-2% drain per hour with no deep sleep, I have to believe this is not how the device is supposed to operate.
Prior to buying the LGOG, while looking at the forums here, I noted that Jank4AU was here - a name I recognized from the Aria and SGS2 forums. He provided an excellent overview of the device (via PM - Thanks Jank4AU) and mentioned the need for rooting to disable fast dormancy, which apparently AT&T, in their infinite wisdom, left enabled by default, to improve battery life. My limited experience with chasing wakelocks indicates that HSIC is likely radio related. Is this msm_hsic_host wakelock triggered by the fast dormancy system? My searches have turned up little to indicate either a yes or a no...
forum search turns up this (partially related??): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2144927&highlight=msm+hsic+host
Google search turns up a bit more, but very Nexus 4 focused (I realize they are similar devices -- possibly similar fixes??):
https://productforums.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mobile/jO65dcM7J2Y[1-25-false]
On the sprint version (wifi related for us too? WiFi off drain test is next for me I think.): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2106529
It looks like Thracemerin is chasing it in kernel development for 4.2.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2102986 Is this less of an issue on JB than on the stock ICS for our devices?
At any rate, I'm still digging though the ROM threads, but will likely be rooted and maybe off stock by the end of the day today. I'm looking forward to spending some time with the LGOG community, and hopefully I'll be able to contribute meaningfully at some point!
Sorry for the great wall o' text...
DD
Yep. My wife's phone running rooted stock has it. Mine so far doesn't
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Yep. My wife's phone running rooted stock has it. Mine so far doesn't
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Interesting. Can you elaborate on what may be different, set up wise, between yours and your wife's phones? Particularly radio/Wi-Fi settings or presence/absence of Wi-Fi use environments?
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Nothing different between our phones bloatware frozen. She spends a lot more time away from wifi than I do. I just disabled fast dormancy and installed better battery stats on both of our phones. I'll keep an eye on things and compare both at the end of the day
I made a thread a few months back about this wakelock. As I've flashed ROMs and have fast dormancy disabled, the problem has vanished. I had the wakelock on stock unrooted, stock rooted, and stock ICS ROM.
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I applied the fast dormancy fix and all is well here too
I was seeing this wakelock a lot too, but only noticed it (only ever installed BBS) AFTER disabling fast dormancy. In the process of trying to tack this down, I froze a bunch of apps, turned off a bunch of background syncing type stuff, re-enabled FD, and I've had wifi off the past 2 days, and now the wakelock is still the highest on the list, but it's usually < 10% now instead of 44%, and my deep sleep percentage has reversed, from 25% to 75% now. Re-disabling FD doesn't seem to have made any difference. Is FD only relevant for LTE? I only have 4G here.
Yeah, there's a fast-dormancy toggle app in the themes and apps section. It will greatly reduce your wake-locks.
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I made a thread a few months back about this wakelock. As I've flashed ROMs and have fast dormancy disabled, the problem has vanished. I had the wakelock on stock unrooted, stock rooted, and stock ICS ROM.
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I applied the fast dormancy fix and all is well here too
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Thanks for the input folks, looks like it's time to root for me. FWIW, I tried running with wifi off, and saw small (8ish) percentage deep sleep.
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I was seeing this wakelock a lot too, but only noticed it (only ever installed BBS) AFTER disabling fast dormancy. In the process of trying to tack this down, I froze a bunch of apps, turned off a bunch of background syncing type stuff, re-enabled FD, and I've had wifi off the past 2 days, and now the wakelock is still the highest on the list, but it's usually < 10% now instead of 44%, and my deep sleep percentage has reversed, from 25% to 75% now. Re-disabling FD doesn't seem to have made any difference. Is FD only relevant for LTE? I only have 4G here.
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Hmmmm...if I understand you correctly, you're seeing the opposite behavior of those two above? I am also in a Non-LTE area...be interesting to see what I see.
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Yeah, there's a fast-dormancy toggle app in the themes and apps section. It will greatly reduce your wake-locks.
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Sweet. I'm missing Google Now an awful lot...I'm thinking a switch to the SnowJB ROM might be in order...appears that has "built-in" fast dormancy "fix" - I assume this means it's disabled by default on that ROM.
Got revert to stock all set up on my PC, so now I get to go root. This will be the soonest after purcahse I've rooted a new device (previous quickest was 4 days for the SGS2). Thank you all for the warm and helpful welcome to the LGOG device forums!
Edit: just out of curiosity, what do you guys typically see for deep sleep percentages? On the SGS2 85% or so was about my average on ICS with my full complement of apps and background data running. That dropped to 75-80% with Google Now running in the background.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050582
The zv9 zvb root works on 11c.
I am seeing the opposite of some of the others in a way.... I can't say that disabling FD hurt me and I can't say that enabling it helped me. All I can say for sure is in my case it doesn't seem to make any difference one way or another.
Also, the FD toggle app doesn't require root. Not that you shouldn't root, just that you don't need to in order to try this.
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The zv9 zvb root works on 11c.
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LOL, Thanks adfurgerson (another i777 convert iirc?). By the time I got back to read this I was already rooted and unlocked via the guide sticky procedure! Went without a hitch.
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LOL, Thanks adfurgerson (another i777 convert iirc?). By the time I got back to read thCFC I was already rooted and unlocked via the guide sticky procedure! Went without a hitch.
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Yes I had I777, so far this is a good group here. Seen you found irc channel. If you can do without camera and GPS cfx is nice.
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Yes I had I777, so far this is a good group here. Seen you found irc channel. If you can do without camera and GPS cfx is nice.
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Yeah...I might be able to live without one or the other (GPS is easier to get along without for me) but without both, it's not quite to daily driver status for me. I thought I saw some comments from the dev that kernel work towards getting the camera going is almost ready. At that point I might give it a shot.
Edit: OK, first dumb question of my time here (won't be the last): Is there a key combo to get into recovery? Google pointed me to either vol-/power or vol+/home/power. Neither of these worked for me, all I can seem to get with keys is fastboot. Had to ADB into recovery to make my backup...gonna flash SnowJB once that's done.
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Yeah...I might be able to live without one or the other (GPS is easier to get along without for me) but without both, it's not quite to daily driver status for me. I thought I saw some comments from the dev that kernel work towards getting the camera going is almost ready. At that point I might give it a shot.
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I believe that I put up an ICS version of Google Now in my inverted apps thread if you aren't ready for JB yet. Also, in that same thread, there is probably still a copy of Google Now (not inverted) for ICS as posted by XsMagical. If you can't find it, PM me and I'll send the file to you.
Jank
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I believe that I put up an ICS version of Google Now in my inverted apps thread if you aren't ready for JB yet. Also, in that same thread, there is probably still a copy of Google Now (not inverted) for ICS as posted by XsMagical. If you can't find it, PM me and I'll send the file to you.
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Thanks, appreciated. Just got SnowJB flashed (glad to be rid of that damn carrier id in the notification bar, since it says ATT Microcell at home and takes up most of the notification bar!). If I run into issues, I'll jump back and take a look at your ICS GNow...
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Thanks, appreciated. Just got SnowJB flashed (glad to be rid of that damn carrier id in the notification bar, since it says ATT Microcell at home and takes up most of the notification bar!). If I run into issues, I'll jump back and take a look at your ICS GNow...
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Good deal, that SnowJB is pretty smooth.
Itnis hidden menu for recovery, volume up and power for bootloader then volume up twice then power. Quickboot app also works.
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Itnis hidden menu for recovery, volume up and power for bootloader then volume up twice then power. Quickboot app also works.
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Gotcha...thanks. I have quickboot now, so all good. knowing that combo is nice in case I get in a pinch sometime though and am working from stock without ADB available (hopefully that never happens ). Is that button combo/hidden menu stuff posted somewhere? If so I missed it. Might be a good thing to add to one of the "read me first" kinda stickies (assuming it's not already there and I missed it)...
Edit: And first short duration drain test after root/unlock/SnowJB1.1 is giving me 68% deep sleep - with GNow enabled and full complement of apps (a bunch more apps than previous test).
Edit 2: Initial 3 hour test after SnowJB install - 5% total battery drain over 3 hours, including 20 minutes screen on for browsing. 70.4% deep sleep, with minimal (1min 30sec) running at max CPU. I'm used to seeing 5% drain just from that much screen on time, so this is excellent performance in my book!
Oddly enough,my phone was kept awake by msm_hsic_host wakelock for over 7 hours last night. I'm abroad at the moment, with my phone in airplane mode all the time, wifi was turned off during that time, and the fast dormancy toggle was doing its thing. Weird. I'll see if it happens again tonight.
CDMA/GSM modules don't work adequately with vigor360 v 1.0 - they seem to eat the battery in half of a day. Be very grateful if you could advice some better version for simultaneous work of the modules. The phone operates in Eastern Europe, if that may help.
Somehow the proximity sensor failed. I'm not sure whether it is due to the firmware or it had just simply died. Wonder if there's a way to check.
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CDMA/GSM modules don't work adequately with vigor360 v 1.0 - they seem to eat the battery in half of a day. Be very grateful if you could advice some better version for simultaneous work of the modules. The phone operates in Eastern Europe, if that may help.
Somehow the proximity sensor failed. I'm not sure whether it is due to the firmware or it had just simply died. Wonder if there's a way to check.
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Some sense roms had these issues and werent meant for gsm....i'm ona 4.3 rom and using a gsm carrier no issues and my battery lasts for about 19 hours
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Some sense roms had these issues and werent meant for gsm....i'm ona 4.3 rom and using a gsm carrier no issues and my battery lasts for about 19 hours
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Well, that's the problem, as I have CDMA/GSM carrier at once, but I'm guessing my version of firmware is not quite suitable for that. Though I know that same phones with CDMA/GSM work purfectly in the US.
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Well, that's the problem, as I have CDMA/GSM carrier at once, but I'm guessing my version of firmware is not quite suitable for that. Though I know that same phones with CDMA/GSM work purfectly in the US.
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Alot ofthe stuff made by developers on here was made mainly for us carriers...also perhaps you may have skipped an ots update...if your phone gets really hot it isnt because the rom and thats what is causing your battery drain issues...it may also be because you are getting a location wakelock from your carrier
Reboot your phone to the bootloader (pull the battery, put it back, volume down and power til you get to the white screen) and see what version hboot you're on, the latest is 2.28.
For your proximity sensor, try this app - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.incredicontrol.ProxSensorCalibrator
Adjust the High threshold til the sensor switches to far. If you crank it all the way up and it never changes, I'd say it's bad, otherwise, bump it up a couple more numbers once it switches and set the app to keep it's settings on boot.
So i got my s8 a few days ago (yay) and noticed some of its horrendous issues within an hour of usage, so i started looking around for fixes and stumbled upon Eragon (Rom) and have been attempting to get that on to my phone with no luck. I have little to no experience messing around with phones. I followed the guide per Skeleton1911 and can't even get the Vcom driver's working properly. Pretty frustrated and confused at this point and decided to reach out for help/advice. Or any possible alternatives.
What issues are you experiencing that you hope will be solved by this ROM?
I only ask because it might be a hardware issue and therefore a sign to return the phone for a replacement from your vendor while that's still an option.
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What issues are you experiencing that you hope will be solved by this ROM?
I only ask because it might be a hardware issue and therefore a sign to return the phone for a replacement from your vendor while that's still an option.
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4g connectivity seems to be pretty bad/unstable. Battery life is pretty meh. Most if not all of the issue with this phone is pretty much fixed by the Eragon rom hence why I'm trying so hard to get it installed.
the 4g connectivity along with the battery life a very lack luster, which are some of the fixes that come with Eragon.
OK, fair enough. I do understand battery life is improved under Eragon, and OS RAM usage is reduced.
I just read 'horrendous issues' and wondered what that meant exactly, as I've found the battery life on stock to be reasonably OK. The only 'horrendous' issues, in my experience, are the camera and the GPS, neither of which are changed or improved on Eragon. But we all have our personal measurements for such things.
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OK, fair enough. I do understand battery life is improved under Eragon, and OS RAM usage is reduced.
I just read 'horrendous issues' and wondered what that meant exactly, as I've found the battery life on stock to be reasonably OK. The only 'horrendous' issues, in my experience, are the camera and the GPS, neither of which are changed or improved on Eragon. But we all have our personal measurements for such things.
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I can't confirm battery improvement with eragon rom. After a few weeks I had a massive battery drain of about 15% per hour without any heavy usage. The phone was in my pocket with wifi and bluetooth active. I didn't install any new apps and I already I flashed cache and dalvik. The only thing that helped was getting back to stock. Now battery is back to normal and I don't experience any major differences in performance, multitasking or ram usage.
A good example of just how different people's experiences can be, depending on their usage patterns and which set of apps they have installed. Thanks for sharing your experience, Steve.
map002 said:
A good example of just how different people's experiences can be, depending on their usage patterns and which set of apps they have installed. Thanks for sharing your experience, Steve.
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It seems a matter of luck if you get a full working s8 or not. Maybe there are different builds, depending on where ist was made.
I am using gps from the first day without any problems, no matter if on stock or eragon rom. My s8 just gets warm when playing games but not hot. I think the perfomance is good (no matter which rom) but I would have expected a much higher antutu score from a deca-core chipset and 4gb ram. The battery performance is not better or worse (on stock rom) compared to my earlier smartphones like the oneplus one. I expected the lack of support from the elephone company just as it is, so I am not disappopinted at this point.
I think it's also worth keeping in mind that people are more likely to post when something goes wrong than when something goes as expected, so folks with a defective item are more likely to post complaints than someone who's phone just works.
That being said, I do expect quality control at a third-tier device manufacturer will not be as good as at one of the major players.
And yeah, the big battery is just there to provide adequate battery life despite the huge screen. In my usage, even with the brightness turned down, the screen accounts for 75% of my battery usage on average.
It's a great screen for a cheap phone like this, but it is a trade-off. No such thing as a free lunch.
Finally! Some people are talking sense here and not just complaining about their devices.
For me, I think it's pointless to compare this phone with flagship devices. You can't just say that "on my one plus/galaxy..." because you paid better bucks for those so they got to be damn better!
I have not got any complaints on my device because as I have read on another post here, "You sound set your expectations".
When you bought this, you have a certain use case and if the phone fulfills that, then the phone has already served its purpose.
Please don't expect our units to be top notch as the price won't allow that.
What kind of 4G issue was resolved by this ROM?
Scoundral said:
the 4g connectivity along with the battery life a very lack luster, which are some of the fixes that come with Eragon.
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Can you explain what kind of 4G issues it resolves
After doing some research I found out that the ROM will NOT fix network issues.
Re Oreo
For what it is worth, from the Elephone forum today.
ashish replied at 2018-2-17 03:58 AM
"Plz update the android as almost every compay providing android oreo update but elephone s8 still ha ...
got this on Facebook .
(we do our best to release an oreo update for the S8 as fast as possible. Did you know, that our biggest competitor, that charges 3-4x the price of our S8, just canceled their release of Android 8.0 for their newest device? Google the news Why? Because their update was rushed and released way to early, causing a lot of trouble to many users. Do you want that to happen? We don't. That's why our update will only be released when it's done and can deliver a flawless experience to ALL users of the S8. Therefore we kindly ask for your patience. Have a nice day, your ELEPHONE Team)"
It is true many of the big players have pulled or cancelled their Oreo updates in the last few weeks. Be nice if Ele would try another 7.x update with another attempt to fix the camera though.
I suspect that their dev team has its hands full trying to get everything they got wrong on 7.x right on 8. And I doubt they have the resources to have two teams working on S8 firmware development.
Just my edjumakated guess, mind you. ?
map002 said:
the camera and the GPS, neither of which are changed or improved on Eragon. But we all have our personal measurements for such things.
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so it's normal thing that GPS do't work and camera makes meh photos?
Also, is there an option that phone screen will turn on for a while when I'm receiving a notification? I know there is something like that in android but I couldn't find it. Sorry It's my first android phone and I just feel lost
I did not say the GPS did not work. If your GPS does not work at all, you should return your phone to the shop where you bought it. It's defective.
What I did say is that the GPS isn't great, as is par for the course on Mediatek based phones. If you need great GPS, this is not the phone for you.
Spend more money and buy something better, maybe with a Qualcomm chipset. Or buy a used last-gen flagship phone with good GPS performance.
As for the camera, it's crappy. All the reviews I've seen have pointed out the focus hunting. It's sub par and mostly a problem with the software.
That being said, yes, sub par cameras on cheap Chinese third tier OEM phones do tend to be sub par in one way or another. This one's just notably bad at the moment. Maybe always, if they don't eventually release another firmware for it.
And if this is your first Android phone, I can understand the confusion. Especally if you're coming from fruit phones, where everything just works on pretty much all of them.
This is a terrible first phone for most people. This is a pretty bad device for a novice, it's more of a hobbyist phone. But XDA is a place for that kind of crowd, so my comments were framed accordingly.
I really like it, but I knew what I was buying. I don't use the camera and only make occasional use of the GPS. And I make heavy use of the screen for watching videos and I am not a fan of 18:9. The S8 is a big win for me there.
You probably would have been better served, in this price range, by a Motorola phone, to be honest. If you're still within your exchange window, I would recommend swapping it for something more mainstream.
Best of luck!
matizo said:
... is there an option that phone screen will turn on for a while when I'm receiving a notification? I know there is something like that in android but I couldn't find it. Sorry It's my first android phone and I just feel lost
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.nullgrad.glimpse
Install this and the screen will wake for notifications. You can also disable individual apps, like I did with Spotify, to prevent the screen from waking when listening to music on my Mac.
PRGS3 said:
Install this and the screen will wake for notifications. You can also disable individual apps, like I did with Spotify, to prevent the screen from waking when listening to music on my Mac.
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Thank you
map002 said:
And if this is your first Android phone, I can understand the confusion. Especally if you're coming from fruit phones, where everything just works on pretty much all of them.
Best of luck!
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I'm not even from apple family. I'm one of old guard of Windows phone, and everyday I'm more and more surprised that android won this competition.
I have no chance for fully refund, since I already own it few months, but I see I need to contact a seller. But I think they'll reject it because I dropped it once, and I have beautiful spider web at back -.- (It's not very sturdy). I think I need to revive my lumia for gps usage.
New to elephone s8 but not new to Chinese smart phones. I was hoping this ROM fixed some issues but hasn't thus far. Phone constantly drops signal to point where i can't receive or make calls. Still trying to figure out if that is due to phone not support on my network or not. Which is odd cause at times phone is fine, flying speed full coverage others its the complete opposite. One other bug I was hoping it fixed was screen being unresponsive. Like i try to swipe up to unlock or use fingerprint but it just vibrates to acknowledge I touched it and does nothing. I am looking for work around before i get fed up and sell it or something. I really love the feel of phone physically and how software works when its working.