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Hello XDA.
I'm considering to flash a custom rom on my htc hero. I'm wondering which custom rom does have the best battery life, which would you recommend?
I would like a rom that can last a day, so that i only have to charge over night?
By the way, how do i find out if i have the gsm or cdma edition?
ChosSimbaOne said:
Hello XDA.
I'm considering to flash a custom rom on my htc hero. I'm wondering which custom rom does have the best battery life, which would you recommend?
I would like a rom that can last a day, so that i only have to charge over night?
By the way, how do i find out if i have the gsm or cdma edition?
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If you live in the us you have the cdma. Every other place in the world use gsm.
ChosSimbaOne said:
Hello XDA.
I'm considering to flash a custom rom on my htc hero. I'm wondering which custom rom does have the best battery life, which would you recommend?
I would like a rom that can last a day, so that i only have to charge over night?
By the way, how do i find out if i have the gsm or cdma edition?
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Battery life has more to do with how you use the phone rather than the rom, most are similarly optimised now.
It nice to hear. How much battery time do you get?
Which ROM would you recommend? Been Thinking of installing beHero.
ChosSimbaOne said:
It nice to hear. How much battery time do you get?
Which ROM would you recommend? Been Thinking of installing beHero.
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Personally i get between 1-4 days on a standard battery depending on how I use the phone, and I get between 4-10 days on my extra life battery (3000 mah).
I use VillainROM and am currently on 5.2, but 5.3 is out in about 30 mins or so. I have heard good things about many of the roms, check out their features and see which you prefer.
tristan202 said:
If you live in the us you have the cdma. Every other place in the world use gsm.
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Not necessarily! The US does use GSM as well as CDMA - it just uses a different set of frequencies. A Telus Hero is a GSM Hero and will work on AT&T in the US.
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Dave
Now i've rooted my HTC Hero. And i've come to the point where i should update my radio. Is this nessescary, can in ruin my phone and what excatly does it do?
ChosSimbaOne said:
Now i've rooted my HTC Hero. And i've come to the point where i should update my radio. Is this nessescary, can in ruin my phone and what excatly does it do?
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It can brick your phone, however as long as you don't flash a GSM radio on a CDMA hero or visa versa (assuming they have cdma radios?) you are fairly safe. Also don't pull the battery out whilst its happening. Just be patient, it can take a while for some people apparently (10 mins or more), though it takes about a minute on mine.
All the radio does it let your phone know where signal towers are, from what I gather. Though people often talk about some radio's working better with certain rom's and they apparently affect battery life - i'm not entirely convinced.
Okay. Could it have any effect on my signal strengh? Are you using the laste radio rom?
Thanks for the help and guides. Now i've got it all up and running Has been a greate help, and i'm really looking forward to use android 2.1 Will see if i change back to HTC when they can get their act together and release the 2.1 update for android
ChosSimbaOne said:
Okay. Could it have any effect on my signal strengh? Are you using the laste radio rom?
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ChosSimbaOne said:
Thanks for the help and guides. Now i've got it all up and running Has been a greate help, and i'm really looking forward to use android 2.1 Will see if i change back to HTC when they can get their act together and release the 2.1 update for android
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Yes I'm on the latest radio. I noticed a difference, before i only ever got 2 bars of signal max, now it ranges from 0 to full.
If you continue with the 2.1 custom roms when the devs get the new kernal i'm sure there will be some nice features.
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Personally i get between 1-4 days on a standard battery depending on how I use the phone, and I get between 4-10 days on my extra life battery (3000 mah).
I use VillainROM and am currently on 5.2, but 5.3 is out in about 30 mins or so. I have heard good things about many of the roms, check out their features and see which you prefer.
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just a last question. When you get 1-4 days on the standard battery, do you turn it off at night? And how much do you use it during the day, for texting, calling, internet and so on?
ChosSimbaOne said:
just a last question. When you get 1-4 days on the standard battery, do you turn it off at night? And how much do you use it during the day, for texting, calling, internet and so on?
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Stays on at night, for my alarm in the morning. I use it for calls for approximately 30-60 minutes every couple of days. Send about 10-20 texts a day. Usually check for updates to apps on a daily basis, as well as twitter updates and some browsing of the net when i'm away from computer. Not heavy use really.
Just make sure you turn stuff off when you're not using it - i.e. wifi, 3g, bluetooth, sync, backlight, etc (there is a power control widget for most of these, and a 3g widget separate)
Mine might get 3 days with moderate-low usage.I have Villain Rom 5.3 and of course i keep closed bluetooth,wifi,gps,3g when i don't use them.Also i have Advanced Task Manager to kill all apps that might run on the background when i don't need them.
When I got my SGS3, I could have it on for about 2 days (with minimal use and bluetooth and gps off and such), but ever since I updated to 4.1.2 (from ICS to JB), it looks like the battery drains a lot faster. So I got Titanium Backup and removed most of Samsung's' bloatware, disabled Google now and finally got BetterBatteryStats to pinpoint the source. I found some minor things and disabled them too... I've optimized all settings across the board, yet I still can't get much longer than one day.
Now I get that one day is nice, and most people charge every day, but when you're used to having 2 days (or at least 1.5 on normal use), 1 day is just.. less
So, I am kind of hoping that someone with more knowledge than me (basically everyone here ) would have a look at my BBS dump file, because I'm kind of at a loss.
It would be much appreciated!
Try turning off "Use wifi for location" in Location settings.
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Try turning off "Use wifi for location" in Location settings.
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Do you mean "Location determined by wi-fi and/or mobile networks"? Isn't that used (among other things) to find the GPS sattelites way faster (because if it knows where you are, it knows where the sattelites are)? Because I use my phone for car navigation, I really would prefer not to wait 5 minutes while my phone searches the sky for GPS...
I'll turn the option off for now, but do you really think that's the main problem? Because I had the option on before this update.
Still, thank you for your suggestion
Location by wifi is unrelated to GPS location, it's just a way of roughly fixing your location by the networks and wifi around you.
It's a battery hog and doesn't matter AGPS, which is used to speed up GPS fixes but gets downloaded via your data connection.
I found JB to be better for battery life that ICS, even on a stock ROM. Since changing to a minimumcustom ROM based on the latest stock I get two days use with around 6hr screen on time.
If you are still on stock that was updated from ICS then you might be better off wiping the phone and flashing a fresh install, even if you only use the stock JB ROM for your country, as things might have become corrupted over time.
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Location by wifi is unrelated to GPS location, it's just a way of roughly fixing your location by the networks and wifi around you.
It's a battery hog and doesn't matter AGPS, which is used to speed up GPS fixes but gets downloaded via your data connection.
I found JB to be better for battery life that ICS, even on a stock ROM. Since changing to a minimumcustom ROM based on the latest stock I get two days use with around 6hr screen on time.
If you are still on stock that was updated from ICS then you might be better off wiping the phone and flashing a fresh install, even if you only use the stock JB ROM for your country, as things might have become corrupted over time.
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I turned it off, but in the past 4 hours it ate 20% battery, so didn't help anything. I guess I could go for a fresh install, but how would I do that? I'm assuming a factory reset won't do it... If you could point me to a guide or at least a location to get up to date stock roms, it would be much appreciated
Thanks!
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I turned it off, but in the past 4 hours it ate 20% battery, so didn't help anything. I guess I could go for a fresh install, but how would I do that? I'm assuming a factory reset won't do it... If you could point me to a guide or at least a location to get up to date stock roms, it would be much appreciated
Thanks!
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Would someone please point me in the right direction for up-to-date stock roms? Pretty please?
I think your issue is fast dormancy as you have the secril_fd wakelock.
There is an app on playstore that can toggle fast dormancy on or off on the Galaxy S3.
Give it a try and see if things improve.
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corrsea said:
I think your issue is fast dormancy as you have the secril_fd wakelock.
There is an app on playstore that can toggle fast dormancy on or off on the Galaxy S3.
Give it a try and see if things improve.
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Ok, I've installed it and turned FD off... I'll do a full charge now and see how long that keeps. Thanks for your suggestion! Is FD a new feature since JB? Because I haven't changed providers so if this has always been the case, it's probably still a seperate problem.
To be completely sure, I'd still like to do the complete reinstall, so I would really appreciate it if someone would point me in the direction of official updated stock roms. Thanks!
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Ok, I've installed it and turned FD off... I'll do a full charge now and see how long that keeps. Thanks for your suggestion! Is FD a new feature since JB? Because I haven't changed providers so if this has always been the case, it's probably still a seperate problem.
To be completely sure, I'd still like to do the complete reinstall, so I would really appreciate it if someone would point me in the direction of official updated stock roms. Thanks!
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You can reset it completely through Kies if you go to Tools>Firmware Upgrade and Installation and follow the instructions this will flash the latest firmware and reset your phone, do any backups you need first like contacts etc, then root the phone again or do whatever you want afterwards.
FD is not new. It just depends whether you provider supports it or not. If it is not supported and switched on it can cause battery drain.
Saying that my network does support it but when I first upgraded to XELLA I started getting the secril_fd wakelock. Switching off FD solved it at the time. Since then I have made a few changes, including modem and have switched it back on again without issue.
I noticed you've also got the Multipdp wakelock. A modem change sorted that one for me.
As I say I've since moved back to XELLA without issue and neither wakelock has returned.
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I've found all the JB ROMs that I've tried to consume alot more battery than ICS, with the same set of apps running and the same location/sync settings. I eventually reverted to CheckROM 3.5 (ICS) to get decent battery life again.
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FD is not new. It just depends whether you provider supports it or not. If it is not supported and switched on it can cause battery drain.
Saying that my network does support it but when I first upgraded to XELLA I started getting the secril_fd wakelock. Switching off FD solved it at the time. Since then I have made a few changes, including modem and have switched it back on again without issue.
I noticed you've also got the Multipdp wakelock. A modem change sorted that one for me.
As I say I've since moved back to XELLA without issue and neither wakelock has returned.
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Ok, thanks for the info. I don't think that's my problem though: my provider hasn't changed, the only thing that changed is that I upgraded to JB. Either way, I tested it: with FD off I still have pretty much the same result (maybe a bit better, but I need to properly test that. Yet it's definitely not the problem ). Too bad, it was a good suggestion.
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You can reset it completely through Kies if you go to Tools>Firmware Upgrade and Installation and follow the instructions this will flash the latest firmware and reset your phone, do any backups you need first like contacts etc, then root the phone again or do whatever you want afterwards.
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Thank you! I just did this. I expected that all my settings would be gone, but apparently that's not the case. All my apps remain, so I wonder if this wiped it properly? I did lose root though. Well, I'll charge it to 100% and we'll see what happens from there. Thanks!
Perhaps rolling back to your previous modem would help.
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DeltaBlast said:
Ok, thanks for the info. I don't think that's my problem though: my provider hasn't changed, the only thing that changed is that I upgraded to JB. Either way, I tested it: with FD off I still have pretty much the same result (maybe a bit better, but I need to properly test that. Yet it's definitely not the problem ). Too bad, it was a good suggestion.
Thank you! I just did this. I expected that all my settings would be gone, but apparently that's not the case. All my apps remain, so I wonder if this wiped it properly? I did lose root though. Well, I'll charge it to 100% and we'll see what happens from there. Thanks!
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overnight it lost 25% in 11h42m, so I'd say that's a definite improvement. It didn't see any use in this time, but it should last me at least 1.5 day now, so I guess the problem was in the update after all. The battery of my (6 months newer) SGS3 still holds out longer, but I think that's the battery itself: hers also charges faster than mine.
Thank you all, for helping to think up solutions and get it working for me again! :victory:
Edit: Multipdp is now a lot higer up in the list (it's the top partial wakelock), maybe I should change modems. Can someone tell me how?
You can download a flashable zip from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2076857
[REF] Galaxy S3 RIL+Modem CWM Flashable Collection
just flash it from recovery.
XDLID is a good one to start with.
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Hey folks,
New guy here, just picked up a new LG Optimus G on AT&T yesterday afternoon to replace my aging Samsung GS2. This was a somewhat quickly made decision (for me anyway) so I haven't done as much research on the LGOG as I typically do before purchasing a new device...it's quite possible I missed something stupid. If so, flame away...
As of right now, I'm stock/unrooted, with a small number of primary use apps installed. While screwing around getting familiar with the device yesterday, I noticed a high level of msm_hsic_host wakelocks, with an apparently related but smaller amount of suspend_backoff wakelocks in Better Battery Stats. CPUSpy indicated approximately 25% deep sleep for the run, which was about10 hours from purchase to going to bed - with a partial charge in the middle.
This concerned me slightly, so I let the device charge overnight, then unplugged this morning and let her go on a screen-off draindown test. Did a 50 minute run, which resulted in zero battery drain (still at 100% for a few moments when I lit the screen up at the end of the run) but ZERO deep sleep. The vast majority of the run was spent at 384 MHz, with small amounts at 1512. This run was done while on an ATT microcell for calls and WiFi on for data (set to stay on with screen off). Background data was on. While I am quite impressed that I'm seeing 1-2% drain per hour with no deep sleep, I have to believe this is not how the device is supposed to operate.
Prior to buying the LGOG, while looking at the forums here, I noted that Jank4AU was here - a name I recognized from the Aria and SGS2 forums. He provided an excellent overview of the device (via PM - Thanks Jank4AU) and mentioned the need for rooting to disable fast dormancy, which apparently AT&T, in their infinite wisdom, left enabled by default, to improve battery life. My limited experience with chasing wakelocks indicates that HSIC is likely radio related. Is this msm_hsic_host wakelock triggered by the fast dormancy system? My searches have turned up little to indicate either a yes or a no...
forum search turns up this (partially related??): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2144927&highlight=msm+hsic+host
Google search turns up a bit more, but very Nexus 4 focused (I realize they are similar devices -- possibly similar fixes??):
https://productforums.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mobile/jO65dcM7J2Y[1-25-false]
On the sprint version (wifi related for us too? WiFi off drain test is next for me I think.): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2106529
It looks like Thracemerin is chasing it in kernel development for 4.2.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2102986 Is this less of an issue on JB than on the stock ICS for our devices?
At any rate, I'm still digging though the ROM threads, but will likely be rooted and maybe off stock by the end of the day today. I'm looking forward to spending some time with the LGOG community, and hopefully I'll be able to contribute meaningfully at some point!
Sorry for the great wall o' text...
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Yep. My wife's phone running rooted stock has it. Mine so far doesn't
gunnyman said:
Yep. My wife's phone running rooted stock has it. Mine so far doesn't
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Interesting. Can you elaborate on what may be different, set up wise, between yours and your wife's phones? Particularly radio/Wi-Fi settings or presence/absence of Wi-Fi use environments?
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Nothing different between our phones bloatware frozen. She spends a lot more time away from wifi than I do. I just disabled fast dormancy and installed better battery stats on both of our phones. I'll keep an eye on things and compare both at the end of the day
I made a thread a few months back about this wakelock. As I've flashed ROMs and have fast dormancy disabled, the problem has vanished. I had the wakelock on stock unrooted, stock rooted, and stock ICS ROM.
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I applied the fast dormancy fix and all is well here too
I was seeing this wakelock a lot too, but only noticed it (only ever installed BBS) AFTER disabling fast dormancy. In the process of trying to tack this down, I froze a bunch of apps, turned off a bunch of background syncing type stuff, re-enabled FD, and I've had wifi off the past 2 days, and now the wakelock is still the highest on the list, but it's usually < 10% now instead of 44%, and my deep sleep percentage has reversed, from 25% to 75% now. Re-disabling FD doesn't seem to have made any difference. Is FD only relevant for LTE? I only have 4G here.
Yeah, there's a fast-dormancy toggle app in the themes and apps section. It will greatly reduce your wake-locks.
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Murasakiii said:
I made a thread a few months back about this wakelock. As I've flashed ROMs and have fast dormancy disabled, the problem has vanished. I had the wakelock on stock unrooted, stock rooted, and stock ICS ROM.
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I applied the fast dormancy fix and all is well here too
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Thanks for the input folks, looks like it's time to root for me. FWIW, I tried running with wifi off, and saw small (8ish) percentage deep sleep.
jdock said:
I was seeing this wakelock a lot too, but only noticed it (only ever installed BBS) AFTER disabling fast dormancy. In the process of trying to tack this down, I froze a bunch of apps, turned off a bunch of background syncing type stuff, re-enabled FD, and I've had wifi off the past 2 days, and now the wakelock is still the highest on the list, but it's usually < 10% now instead of 44%, and my deep sleep percentage has reversed, from 25% to 75% now. Re-disabling FD doesn't seem to have made any difference. Is FD only relevant for LTE? I only have 4G here.
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Hmmmm...if I understand you correctly, you're seeing the opposite behavior of those two above? I am also in a Non-LTE area...be interesting to see what I see.
Jank4AU said:
Yeah, there's a fast-dormancy toggle app in the themes and apps section. It will greatly reduce your wake-locks.
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Sweet. I'm missing Google Now an awful lot...I'm thinking a switch to the SnowJB ROM might be in order...appears that has "built-in" fast dormancy "fix" - I assume this means it's disabled by default on that ROM.
Got revert to stock all set up on my PC, so now I get to go root. This will be the soonest after purcahse I've rooted a new device (previous quickest was 4 days for the SGS2). Thank you all for the warm and helpful welcome to the LGOG device forums!
Edit: just out of curiosity, what do you guys typically see for deep sleep percentages? On the SGS2 85% or so was about my average on ICS with my full complement of apps and background data running. That dropped to 75-80% with Google Now running in the background.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050582
The zv9 zvb root works on 11c.
I am seeing the opposite of some of the others in a way.... I can't say that disabling FD hurt me and I can't say that enabling it helped me. All I can say for sure is in my case it doesn't seem to make any difference one way or another.
Also, the FD toggle app doesn't require root. Not that you shouldn't root, just that you don't need to in order to try this.
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The zv9 zvb root works on 11c.
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LOL, Thanks adfurgerson (another i777 convert iirc?). By the time I got back to read this I was already rooted and unlocked via the guide sticky procedure! Went without a hitch.
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LOL, Thanks adfurgerson (another i777 convert iirc?). By the time I got back to read thCFC I was already rooted and unlocked via the guide sticky procedure! Went without a hitch.
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Yes I had I777, so far this is a good group here. Seen you found irc channel. If you can do without camera and GPS cfx is nice.
adfurgerson said:
Yes I had I777, so far this is a good group here. Seen you found irc channel. If you can do without camera and GPS cfx is nice.
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Yeah...I might be able to live without one or the other (GPS is easier to get along without for me) but without both, it's not quite to daily driver status for me. I thought I saw some comments from the dev that kernel work towards getting the camera going is almost ready. At that point I might give it a shot.
Edit: OK, first dumb question of my time here (won't be the last): Is there a key combo to get into recovery? Google pointed me to either vol-/power or vol+/home/power. Neither of these worked for me, all I can seem to get with keys is fastboot. Had to ADB into recovery to make my backup...gonna flash SnowJB once that's done.
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Yeah...I might be able to live without one or the other (GPS is easier to get along without for me) but without both, it's not quite to daily driver status for me. I thought I saw some comments from the dev that kernel work towards getting the camera going is almost ready. At that point I might give it a shot.
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I believe that I put up an ICS version of Google Now in my inverted apps thread if you aren't ready for JB yet. Also, in that same thread, there is probably still a copy of Google Now (not inverted) for ICS as posted by XsMagical. If you can't find it, PM me and I'll send the file to you.
Jank
Jank4AU said:
I believe that I put up an ICS version of Google Now in my inverted apps thread if you aren't ready for JB yet. Also, in that same thread, there is probably still a copy of Google Now (not inverted) for ICS as posted by XsMagical. If you can't find it, PM me and I'll send the file to you.
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Thanks, appreciated. Just got SnowJB flashed (glad to be rid of that damn carrier id in the notification bar, since it says ATT Microcell at home and takes up most of the notification bar!). If I run into issues, I'll jump back and take a look at your ICS GNow...
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Thanks, appreciated. Just got SnowJB flashed (glad to be rid of that damn carrier id in the notification bar, since it says ATT Microcell at home and takes up most of the notification bar!). If I run into issues, I'll jump back and take a look at your ICS GNow...
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Good deal, that SnowJB is pretty smooth.
Itnis hidden menu for recovery, volume up and power for bootloader then volume up twice then power. Quickboot app also works.
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Itnis hidden menu for recovery, volume up and power for bootloader then volume up twice then power. Quickboot app also works.
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Gotcha...thanks. I have quickboot now, so all good. knowing that combo is nice in case I get in a pinch sometime though and am working from stock without ADB available (hopefully that never happens ). Is that button combo/hidden menu stuff posted somewhere? If so I missed it. Might be a good thing to add to one of the "read me first" kinda stickies (assuming it's not already there and I missed it)...
Edit: And first short duration drain test after root/unlock/SnowJB1.1 is giving me 68% deep sleep - with GNow enabled and full complement of apps (a bunch more apps than previous test).
Edit 2: Initial 3 hour test after SnowJB install - 5% total battery drain over 3 hours, including 20 minutes screen on for browsing. 70.4% deep sleep, with minimal (1min 30sec) running at max CPU. I'm used to seeing 5% drain just from that much screen on time, so this is excellent performance in my book!
Oddly enough,my phone was kept awake by msm_hsic_host wakelock for over 7 hours last night. I'm abroad at the moment, with my phone in airplane mode all the time, wifi was turned off during that time, and the fast dormancy toggle was doing its thing. Weird. I'll see if it happens again tonight.
I have two identical Rezounds, both setup using the great Reventech's Guide to How to Downgrade, Factory Restore and Fully Upgrade the Rezound. So, both are S-OFF and running the Factory ROM now.
However, each phone performs way differently and I can't figure out why. The phones have way different battery life, and way different LTE data performance. I'm using GSAM Battery Monitor to measure battery life, and Speedtest application to monitor throughput.
Phone 1:
This phone has decent battery life (I get about 24 hours of battery life in standby), but it has very low data transfer rates in LTE.
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This phone has terrible battery life (drains battery in standby in about 4 hours) but has decent LTE transfer speeds.
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I am sure it's not a battery or antenna problem (I've swapped the batteries around and the back covers). I've tried loading different ROM's (Carbon, Tachyon, LiquidSmooth) and the problems seem to be the same.
Any ideas as to what I am doing wrong???:crying:
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I have two identical Rezounds, both setup using the great Reventech's Guide to How to Downgrade, Factory Restore and Fully Upgrade the Rezound. So, both are S-OFF and running the Factory ROM now.
However, each phone performs way differently and I can't figure out why. The phones have way different battery life, and way different LTE data performance. I'm using GSAM Battery Monitor to measure battery life, and Speedtest application to monitor throughput.
Phone 1:
This phone has decent battery life (I get about 24 hours of battery life in standby), but it has very low data transfer rates in LTE.
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This phone has terrible battery life (drains battery in standby in about 4 hours) but has decent LTE transfer speeds.
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I am sure it's not a battery or antenna problem (I've swapped the batteries around and the back covers). I've tried loading different ROM's (Carbon, Tachyon, LiquidSmooth) and the problems seem to be the same.
Any ideas as to what I am doing wrong???:crying:
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its probably the phones motherboard...2 seperate types can have different outcomes....you can check by going to about phone>status>serial number...if it starts with a different letter than the other...its a whole different motherboard....slightly different but are very identical
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its probably the phones motherboard...2 seperate types can have different outcomes....you can check by going to about phone>status>serial number...if it starts with a different letter than the other...its a whole different motherboard....slightly different but are very identical
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Thank you Reventech-
One phones serial number is HT19XS22......... the other is HT1AWS2.............
Anyhow, for phone 1 can you suggest what I can do to fix the low data rate? And for phone 2 what I can do to reduce the current draw?
Thanks in advance,
Bob
pilotbob3 said:
Thank you Reventech-
One phones serial number is HT19XS22......... the other is HT1AWS2.............
Anyhow, for phone 1 can you suggest what I can do to fix the low data rate? And for phone 2 what I can do to reduce the current draw?
Thanks in advance,
Bob
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for overheat go through all stepps on my downgrade upgrade guide as thats what fixed my ht1 serial number rezound overheating as for data i honrstly can only suggest making sure radios are updated with hboot and make sure phone is set to lte/gsm/cdma auto (prl) or lte/cdma auto prl in the hidden menu accessed by going to dialer and typing *#*#4636#*#*
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for overheat go through all stepps on my downgrade upgrade guide as thats what fixed my ht1 serial number rezound overheating as for data i honrstly can only suggest making sure radios are updated with hboot and make sure phone is set to lte/gsm/cdma auto (prl) or lte/cdma auto prl in the hidden menu accessed by going to dialer and typing *#*#4636#*#*
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Hi, when you have a chance, could you screen shot your latest and greatest kernel, baseband, build number screen?
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Hi, when you have a chance, could you screen shot your latest and greatest kernel, baseband, build number screen?
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im on latest hboot 2.28 with the 2.23 radios found in my upgrade guide....on my beta kernel build and my beta gsm only 4.4 build....those have nothing to do with overheating...another thing that can cause overheat is using stuff like kernal tuner or overclocing your kernal....from what i hear dsb runs great but sucks alot of power
Edit...what i suggest for anyone is funky kernel and an older 4.3 rom for now...for example i had good luck with pac-man and carbon from late september to early october releases which can still be found....
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for overheat go through all stepps on my downgrade upgrade guide as thats what fixed my ht1 serial number rezound overheating as for data i honrstly can only suggest making sure radios are updated with hboot and make sure phone is set to lte/gsm/cdma auto (prl) or lte/cdma auto prl in the hidden menu accessed by going to dialer and typing *#*#4636#*#*
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Well, I did both phones all the way from the downgrade upgrade guide exactly as you documented, so kind of think I've got something else going on.
Thanks for the dialer tip, went through that and did confirm phone 1 is on the lte/gsm/cdam auto (prl). Still have the low data rate so no joy.
When I boot to HBOOT, both phones show the following:
HBOOT 2.28.0000
RADIO 2.23.10.0123r/2.23.10.104r
OpenDSP-V14.6.0.7708.00.0507
I hope that means I've got all the updates, right?
Thanks!
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Well, I did both phones all the way from the downgrade upgrade guide exactly as you documented, so kind of think I've got something else going on.
Thanks for the dialer tip, went through that and did confirm phone 1 is on the lte/gsm/cdam auto (prl). Still have the low data rate so no joy.
When I boot to HBOOT, both phones show the following:
HBOOT 2.28.0000
RADIO 2.23.10.0123r/2.23.10.104r
OpenDSP-V14.6.0.7708.00.0507
I hope that means I've got all the updates, right?
Thanks!
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yes it does....on the low data one try switching to a different one...toggle airplane mode afterwards for 10 seconds and turn it back on....you may have better luck...also what conditions are the 2 seperate back covers...a pin may not be touching it properly...
Edit: Also just curious...what rom and kenel do you have em on....some roms do act funky and overheat under certain settings or performance set a certain way or even a setting in developer options
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yes it does....on the low data one try switching to a different one...you may have better luck...also what conditions are the 2 seperate back covers...a pin may not be touching it properly
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Sorry to be dense, but what should I switch to and how, please. Sorry to be a dummy, but I don't quite understand the difference between the RUU's that I ran, and the PH98IMG's that I flashed as part of your procedure.
The back covers are both fine. I did suspect the receive level of one of the phones, but what I discovered was the 4G signal levels are apparently different from the 3G signal levels. Both phones show a signal level of about -91dbm, no matter which cover I have on, so I kind of dismissed signal levels as a problem. Swapping the covers from phone to phone does not solve the data rate issue.
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yes it does....on the low data one try switching to a different one...toggle airplane mode afterwards for 10 seconds and turn it back on....you may have better luck...also what conditions are the 2 seperate back covers...a pin may not be touching it properly...
Edit: Also just curious...what rom and kenel do you have em on....some roms do act funky and overheat under certain settings or performance set a certain way or even a setting in developer options
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The problems existed with the phones without changing rom and kernel. Just running right after I went through the procedure.
After checking that the stock one I loaded was having the problem, I've now loaded phone 1 with Carbon 20131113 that has [email protected] kernel version 3.0.101-gb2c73c5. Same problem....
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The problems existed with the phones without changing rom and kernel. Just running right after I went through the procedure.
After checking that the stock one I loaded was having the problem, I've now loaded phone 1 with Carbon 20131113 that has [email protected] kernel version 3.0.101-gb2c73c5. Same problem....
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as stated you'll want an older version...that was still 4.3 and not 4.3.1 which would be from early october late september....and what i meant by changing is in the dialer menu i showed try various other ones....what is the one with the phone that gets good signal set to....try setting to lte/cdma auto only
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as stated you'll want an older version...that was still 4.3 and not 4.3.1 which would be from early october late september....and what i meant by changing is in the dialer menu i showed try various other ones....what is the one with the phone that gets good signal set to....try setting to lte/cdma auto only
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Thanks Reventech, I loaded Carbon 4.3 from October 2, same issues. Tried Pac Man 4.3, same thing. I think it is some kind of radio issue, and did set it to lte/cdma auto only, same issue. It looks like it default connects to CDMA. If I set to LTE only, I get worse problems.
One observation, if I choose LTE, the signal level is worse than CDMA. Is there a reason that choosing a different modulation causes a worse signal level?
Anyhow, any more suggestions before I throw the phone out the window?
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Thanks Reventech, I loaded Carbon 4.3 from October 2, same issues. Tried Pac Man 4.3, same thing. I think it is some kind of radio issue, and did set it to lte/cdma auto only, same issue. It looks like it default connects to CDMA. If I set to LTE only, I get worse problems.
One observation, if I choose LTE, the signal level is worse than CDMA. Is there a reason that choosing a different modulation causes a worse signal level?
Anyhow, any more suggestions before I throw the phone out the window?
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the only thing i can think of is get a new sim from verizon....i have heard being on an old sim may cause issues similar to this
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the only thing i can think of is get a new sim from verizon....i have heard being on an old sim may cause issues similar to this
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Good idea! Will have to think of a reason to ask Verizon to change it as it is a new SIM.
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the only thing i can think of is get a new sim from verizon....i have heard being on an old sim may cause issues similar to this
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On second thought, I moved the SIM into my other Rezound (the one that eats the battery extremely fast), and LTE data rate is superb, so I don't think its the SIM.
Maybe I can fix this phone so it does not drain the battery as fast. Any idea? This one is running straight from your Downgrade/Upgrade procedure with no other ROM installed.
Thanks again,
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On second thought, I moved the SIM into my other Rezound (the one that eats the battery extremely fast), and LTE data rate is superb, so I don't think its the SIM.
Maybe I can fix this phone so it does not drain the battery as fast. Any idea? This one is running straight from your Downgrade/Upgrade procedure with no other ROM installed.
Thanks again,
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thats my only suggestion as that what has fixed overheating for me and a few others....i think its cause of the motherboard as first mentioned originally....my ht1 motherboard rez would get insanely hot....where as my fa2 motherboard rezound is superb.....i cant think of what else would cause crappy signal exect for hardware related....ie pins on back of phone that touch back cover is faulty or sim slot is dirty
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thats my only suggestion as that what has fixed overheating for me and a few others....i think its cause of the motherboard as first mentioned originally....my ht1 motherboard rez would get insanely hot....where as my fa2 motherboard rezound is superb.....i cant think of what else would cause crappy signal exect for hardware related....ie pins on back of phone that touch back cover is faulty or sim slot is dirty
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I thank you for your help as always. Guess I have two bad motherboards, one that drains batteries, one that can't get a decent data rate. I've spent far too much of your time (and way too much of mine) on this project. Will have to bite the bullet and buy a new phone.
Thanks again:laugh:
Hello everyone,
I come with a problem that I've been having for two months now: every custom ROM I have installed (unofficial LOS13, LOS14.1, Omni 7.1, RR) has a huge battery drain of about 4-5% per hour in idle state if it's using data. It's 3G HSPA+ with the signal being mostly on the green side, mind you. This is not a problem of the battery itself, because I have switched back to MIUI and the idle battery drain is reasonable (around 2% every three or four hours). It doesn't seem to be a deep sleep problem either, as wakelock detectors have detected the phone in deep sleep and I've even used ForceDoze. I also turn off most sync options by default.
The problem seems to come when I install those ROMs with either GApps or MicroG; the battery stats show Google/MicroG Services making this huge battery drain and it's attributed to it being Mobile Radio Active.
I have tried submitting a bug report to LOS14.1's bug tracker a month and a half ago, but I've got no response at all from the maintainer, only people mentioning they have the same problem. The developer of the Radon kernel also tried to help, but in the end it seemed like this problem may not have to do with the kernel (tried his kernel on MIUI and there was no drain, but I got drain in any Custom ROMs with it, same as any Custom ROM default kernel).
I've tried everything I can think of, but I'm at a loss of what to do. I'd like to stay far away from MIUI, but at the same time I don't want to have to charge my battery every day with a very light usage. Can anyone with some technical knowledge help?
Thanks
EDIT: Should add that I've done the tests with no other app installed besides the default ones plus Open GApps Pico/MicroG.
1% every two hours isn't good either, maybe your carrier doesn't have fast dormancy and that's why you get battery drain. Might be a long shot but worth trying to disable it.
Can't help with how to do it though since I didn't look into it.
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1% every two hours isn't good either, maybe your carrier doesn't have fast dormancy and that's why you get battery drain. Might be a long shot but worth trying to disable it.
Can't help with how to do it though since I didn't look into it.
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Well, MIUI is kinda very bloated, and I'm using dual SIM (GSM connection to the second one), so to me it seems normal it has drain when there's so much stuff waking the device up. Anyway, I'm trying the disabled fast dormancy now on RR, but it seems like the mobile radio is still very active during doze (although it seems to me to be a bit less active than with it on). It's just a bit, but thanks for the help!
I have the exact same problem the standby time for me is great but the battery life is bad when I use my phone (SOT) with or without 3G/4G or wifi on
I'm on RR
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Well, MIUI is kinda very bloated, and I'm using dual SIM (GSM connection to the second one), so to me it seems normal it has drain when there's so much stuff waking the device up. Anyway, I'm trying the disabled fast dormancy now on RR, but it seems like the mobile radio is still very active during doze (although it seems to me to be a bit less active than with it on). It's just a bit, but thanks for the help!
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I think atm android is reporting play services drain wrongly.
Mine shows play services kept the device awake for 2 hours but GSam shows play services held it for 47 seconds and total is 42 minutes, at least half of it was Bluetooth streaming.
So use GSam and maybe bbs to figure out what's going on and if mobile radio drains too much.
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I think atm android is reporting play services drain wrongly.
Mine shows play services kept the device awake for 2 hours but GSam shows play services held it for 47 seconds and total is 42 minutes, at least half of it was Bluetooth streaming.
So use GSam and maybe bbs to figure out what's going on and if mobile radio drains too much.
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Well, the battery drain is definitely there, and it only happens when I install GApps (Open GApss Pico)/MicroG. Also, I've done these tests with no other app installed, so there's no other possible culprit that I see besides something from the system, which seems to be the case, as I only have the drain in custom ROMs and not official MIUI with Google stuff.
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Well, the battery drain is definitely there, and it only happens when I install GApps (Open GApss Pico)/MicroG. Also, I've done these tests with no other app installed, so there's no other possible culprit that I see besides something from the system, which seems to be the case, as I only have the drain in custom ROMs and not official MIUI with Google stuff.
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Really bizarre you get drain even with microg, well sorry can't help anymore.
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Well, the battery drain is definitely there, and it only happens when I install GApps (Open GApss Pico)/MicroG. Also, I've done these tests with no other app installed, so there's no other possible culprit that I see besides something from the system, which seems to be the case, as I only have the drain in custom ROMs and not official MIUI with Google stuff.
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@Nowowo
So I'm one of those which have this exact problem.
So I have two main theories about this problem:
1-I'm beginning to think that this is not related to some kind of bug that is in the custom rom's firmware, but to SOMETHING THAT IS MISSING in every custom rom, in every kernel and in every firmware later than a certain time, that was supposed to always stay in the phone from the factory condition.
This missing thing might be the DRIVERS for the MODEMS that drive the antenna in our cell, that connects to the carriers bands.
2-It might be that our cellular carriers are switching things around (like updating to 4g networks), and since our phone is not compatible with band 20 (800 mHz) our snartphone can't receive 3g as well as before.
So, for starting to organize a real troubleshoot guide for this big problem, we need to start with small steps.
The first maybe to ask each other (the ones who refer to this exact problem) some questions, for clearing the path of trouble shooting:
1-Which is the country where you live (approximately)?
2-What carrier do you have?
3-Have you ever unlocked the phone using the unofficial way?
.Carlocarnev2000: I live in Italy, I have coopvoce carrier (a vitual carrier under TIM networks, which are most powerful here in Italy), I have always unlocked the phone with the official way.
We can stay strong and find a way to solve this!
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Well, MIUI is kinda very bloated, and I'm using dual SIM (GSM connection to the second one), so to me it seems normal it has drain when there's so much stuff waking the device up. Anyway, I'm trying the disabled fast dormancy now on RR, but it seems like the mobile radio is still very active during doze (although it seems to me to be a bit less active than with it on). It's just a bit, but thanks for the help!
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How did you disable fast dormancy? Can you please share the steps. Thank you
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How did you disable fast dormancy? Can you please share the steps. Thank you
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I have tried to disable fast dormancy too... But trust me, it will just reduce your battery drain a bit, but because it's a forced way to make the cell modem to connect always with the same frequencies without changing them. Fast dormancy these days is integrated in every phone and in every firmware, and it is a wide spread technology in all over the world. It is useless to try to disable it.
We need to find why this problem affects our phones.
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@Nowowo
So I'm one of those which have this exact problem.
So I have two main theories about this problem:
1-I'm beginning to think that this is not related to some kind of bug that is in the custom rom's firmware, but to SOMETHING THAT IS MISSING in every custom rom, in every kernel and in every firmware later than a certain time, that was supposed to always stay in the phone from the factory condition.
This missing thing might be the DRIVERS for the MODEMS that drive the antenna in our cell, that connects to the carriers bands.
2-It might be that our cellular carriers are switching things around (like updating to 4g networks), and since our phone is not compatible with band 20 (800 mHz) our snartphone can't receive 3g as well as before.
So, for starting to organize a real troubleshoot guide for this big problem, we need to start with small steps.
The first maybe to ask each other (the ones who refer to this exact problem) some questions, for clearing the path of trouble shooting:
1-Which is the country where you live (approximately)?
2-What carrier do you have?
3-Have you ever unlocked the phone using the unofficial way?
.Carlocarnev2000: I live in Italy, I have coopvoce carrier (a vitual carrier under TIM networks, which are most powerful here in Italy), I have always unlocked the phone with the official way.
We can stay strong and find a way to solve this!
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I agree with your point 1, maybe Xiaomi added something to their official ROM that custom ROMs are missing. As for 2, that should be a problem only with 4G in Europe, I believe, but it happens to me in 3G with voice over LTE disabled and the connection option being one of those that don't have 4G.
As for the questions, I'm from Western Europe, my carrier uses band 900 for 3G (Orange), which is the only connection I use and my phone has been officially unlocked.
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How did you disable fast dormancy? Can you please share the steps. Thank you
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I just edited the build.prop to add a line about it (don't have my phone at hand right now), but in the end it doesn't seem to really help with battery life.
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I agree with your point 1, maybe Xiaomi added something to their official ROM that custom ROMs are missing. As for 2, that should be a problem only with 4G in Europe, I believe, but it happens to me in 3G with voice over LTE disabled and the connection option being one of those that don't have 4G.
As for the questions, I'm from Western Europe, my carrier uses band 900 for 3G (Orange), which is the only connection I use and my phone has been officially unlocked.
I just edited the build.prop to add a line about it (don't have my phone at hand right now), but in the end it doesn't seem to really help with battery life.
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It is definetily the fault of the modem drivers that are baked in every single rom.
It maybe that our modem antenna in our device is different (by version or manufacturer) and that the drivers right for our antenna are missing. @Nowowo @{s3rious}Where did you buy your kenzo's from?
I personally bought it from Gearbest almost a year ago (20/07/2016).
I'm doing some research on the antenna versions...
Oh I forgot to mention, firmware from official roms suck.
That's the one posted in official Los thread too.
I extracted the firmware from a Xiaomi. Eu rom and got a more stable signal, maybe it will solve the drain.
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Oh I forgot to mention, firmware from official roms suck.
That's the one posted in official Los thread too.
I extracted the firmware from a Xiaomi. Eu rom and got a more stable signal, maybe it will solve the drain.
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Yeah I think that, since we live in europe, and the developers live in eastern and western countries (like arabia and america), they have totally forgotten our device from europe, and they stopped putting in the right versions of drivers for europe.
@vkass But the point is: since TheStrix's firmware is extracted directly from the xiaomi global developer firmware without any changes.
This all means that the official Xiaomi firmware has forgotten the european users!
So now we have to tell TheStrix to somehow include the firmware from Xiaomi.eu into his version, so that in the future it will be integrated and we will not have the need to flash the one from xiaomi.eu.
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Yeah I think that, since we live in europe, and the developers live in eastern and western countries (like arabia and america), they have totally forgotten our device from europe, and they stopped putting in the right versions of drivers for europe.
@vkass But the point is: since TheStrix's firmware is extracted directly from the xiaomi global developer firmware without any changes.
This all means that the official Xiaomi firmware has forgotten the european users!
So now we have to tell TheStrix to somehow include the firmware from Xiaomi.eu into his version, so that in the future it will be integrated and we will not have the need to flash the one from xiaomi.eu.
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Or you can just make it yourself, here is what I use:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B07L1gEMBKWCMkZvLUNBZnlBYUE
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Oh I forgot to mention, firmware from official roms suck.
That's the one posted in official Los thread too.
I extracted the firmware from a Xiaomi. Eu rom and got a more stable signal, maybe it will solve the drain.
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Yeah I think that, since we live in europe, and the developers live in eastern and western countries (like arabia and america), they have totally forgotten our device from europe, and they stopped putting in the right versions of drivers for europe.
@vkass But the point is: since TheStrix's firmware is extracted directly from the xiaomi global developer firmware without any changes.
This all means that the official Xiaomi firmware has forgotten the european users!
So now we have to tell TheStrix to somehow include the firmware from Xiaomi.eu into his version, so that in the future it will be integrated and we will not have the need to flash the one from xiaomi.eu.
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I don't think that is the problem. I did one of my installs over a xiaomi.eu ROM and it stayed the same. Also, my signal is practically the same both in MIUI and LOS (as per *#*#4636#*#* phone command). It stays in the green side, don't listen to the signal bar thing because in MIUI it requires less signal strength than on LOS to show a full bar.
If it were something from the bundled firmware, I believe it would affect the official ROM, but it doesn't. I think it is the ROM, that maybe can't make full use of the firmware or is missing something.
As for me, I bought my phone off some aliexpress shop with good rating around 8 months ago.
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I don't think that is the problem. I did one of my installs over a xiaomi.eu ROM and it stayed the same. Also, my signal is practically the same both in MIUI and LOS (as per *#*#4636#*#* phone command). It stays in the green side, don't listen to the signal bar thing because in MIUI it requires less signal strength than on LOS to show a full bar.
If it were something from the bundled firmware, I believe it would affect the official ROM, but it doesn't. I think it is the ROM, that maybe can't make full use of the firmware or is missing something.
As for me, I bought my phone off some aliexpress shop with good rating around 8 months ago.
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@Nowowo What I am trying to say is that the signal fluctuaitions are a bad bug that afflicts us european users that try to use custom roms as a whole. And it's because the official miui software lacks the support for europe. In fact now I'm on miui beta (global developer) 7.6.29 and the 3g signal reception is as bad as the one from the custom roms (if not worse).
The only ones that support in some way the our device (kenzo) at a european level is the xiaomi.eu team, in fact there not only the antenna sensitivity is improoved, but also the gps and the compass is optimized for our satellites far better.
What I am trying to say is that the official xiaomi software leaves out on the most important parts such as those said before.
If it isn't at firmware level what is it then?
@vkass I'll try the latest xiaomi.eu firmware.
I bought the device from HonorBuy. So you think that it has something to do with the firmware. Have you seen any improvements after you flashed xiaomi eu firmware?
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I bought the device from HonorBuy. So you think that it has something to do with the firmware. Have you seen any improvements after you flashed xiaomi eu firmware?
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Now I'm on holiday for one week! When I will be back I will try vkass's firmware and xiaomi.eu firmware and do some tests!
Can you upload those firmwares online, or share the steps how to export them from rom?