Motorola Droid Razr or SG2? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

OK, so I have the SG2 for 2 weeks. Great phone....but the Droid Razr is looking sweet. I know i'm on a SG2 forum, but figure I ask opinions anyway. Anyone jumping ship to go to the Razr. Thoughts/opinions???
-David

Touchwiz is actually ok now.
You have to ask yourself, can I tolerate Motobla?
Imo Samsung makes better hardware.
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dross333 said:
OK, so I have the SG2 for 2 weeks. Great phone....but the Droid Razr is looking sweet. I know i'm on a SG2 forum, but figure I ask opinions anyway. Anyone jumping ship to go to the Razr. Thoughts/opinions???
-David
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Stick to the S II. there will be more de support for roms and tweaks than the razr I think.

SII.
All the way.
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Not only that but if i remember correctly you can not swap battery like the iphone.

Yeah, they're even saying that the qHD Amoled screen doesn't even look as good as our SuperAmoled+ screens. You have to deal with a pentile matrix touch screen which makes it look like crap. And trust me when I say moto is slow about fixing problems and bringing out updates. We will have ICS soon, and hopefully NFC support, so just hold on to the SGS2.

Well, I could probably offer a bit more insight than most since I am coming from an atrix.
The first thing I would say is it all depends on preference. Motoblur is horrible, I loathe it with every fiber of my being. That is the very definition of bloatware. qhd is pointless thanks to the pentile matrix. I got the atrix at launch and noticed how everything looked grainy and some colors were off (yellow looks more like a mustard) before I came across what pentile was. However, there are people that aren't bothered by pentile at all. It really depends on whether that is something that you will even notice.
The phone was also very buggy and moto does take its time fixing issues. Don't get me wrong, none of the bugs were deal breakers... except for the muffled call quality that never got fixed.
It's also hard to say what the camera will be like on the razr, if it's anything like the atrix... RUN FAR AWAY! Dull colors, grainy photos, lack of detail, and so on.
If the razr had a qhd Super AMOLED + display then I would easily say that the display is better than the galaxy S2, but having compare the qhd display on my atrix to the s2... I'd have to say the s2 display is far far better.
The s2 is a great phone and I can honestly say I am very happy with it and I haven't been pleased with a phone since the launch of the iphone 3g.

I came from the atrix. The GS2 is 100% better phone. I would never get another Motorola phone. I even had the laptop dock and other crap for the atrix. Dont get the moto. Plus there will be little to no develoment done on it.

Motorola = locked bootloader = run away

Moto was great, back when all phones were pretty much the same. Nowadays, really not so much. Definitely agree that Sammy > HTC > Moto when it comes to hardware these days.

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I want a new phone: Atrix 2 or Galaxy S II?

Currently I have an Atrix but have the itch for a new phone.
I can't decide whether to get the Atrix 2 or the Galaxy SII. I've played with both and they are both nice, but a few pros/cons for them I've noticed.
Both have similar stats, but although the Atrix 2 still has the qHD screen, the GS2's screen is really incredible.
Thank goodness on the Atrix 2 you do not have to set up a MotoBlur account when you set up the phone. But the regular Blur interface is fine for me. I don't have issues liking it like so many others. I never figured out all the hate with it.
They did improve the shutter speed on the Atrix 2, it snaps the picture faster than the Atrix 1 or the GS2, although the iPhone 4 has the fastest, which is really good when trying to take pictures of your kid when she is always moving. hehe The GS2's shutter is average.
The one thing that really hooked me on my Atrix 1 is how loud the external speaker is. That is a must for me. I used to have the HTC Inspire and that had the worst speaker I've ever noticed. The GS2's speaker is louder than say the Infuse, but not as loud as the Atrix. The Atrix 2 continues on with a nice loud speaker.
The GS2 does feel snappier and a bit faster than the A2.
My big issue I guess is Samsung's lack of quality and how slow they are to issue updates. I used to have the Captivate and that took forever to get FroYo on it. Plus Samsung phones are notorious for lousy GPS units.
So I'm confused which one to get, although I am leaning towards the A2. The GS2 just seems so nice when you pick it up with the great screen and the snappier OS. The Atrix on the other hand has the qHD screen and loud speaker quality.
Oh and if anyone is curious, the A2 does not come with an HDMI mini cable like the A1 did.
Oh, and I am not into rooting/flashing ROMS, so that is not a consideration for me.
Opinions would be welcome.
Good rant.
Get one, if you don't like it, you have 30 days to return it.
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Yeah nobody cares. Decide on your own. Why does everyone feel like someone needs to decide for them?
Why would anyone consider buying a phone right now, when the next Nexus phone is set to be announced on the 19th.
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Yeah nobody cares. Decide on your own. Why does everyone feel like someone needs to decide for them?
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I think you need some manners. You won't get far in life being so rude to people. But I guess you weren't brought up right.
I was just asking for opinions. If you don't care then don't post.
I personally would go for the A2. even though the sgs II is a little snappier. i would have to go for the fact that the A2 continues with great loud speaker. i too had the inspire for a short time and it was taken back and replaced by my atrix. I havent had the chance to play with the A2 or the sgs II however if A2 doesnt have a mini hdmi... which i hope you mean isn't included in the box.... not that it doesnt have the output. which would make you wonder why they changed that as that is really one of the better functions of the A1.... i would look at what the quality of both rear and forward camera is on both.. sgs II has an 8 rear and a 2 in front. not sure what the A2 has... also the qhd display.... if the sgs II continues with the super amoled screen i would do this as the screen display is better than anything else.... its your call. but if the sgs II is anything like first gen sgs phones in construction and built cheap... i would pass.
good luck on your quest
iPhone 4s
(S2 or wait a month lol)
wait for Galaxy Nexus
The Atrix 2 doesnt look bad
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I say wait until nexus is announced. That would be more of an upgrade then the a2 or the s2
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honestly, if u don't plan on rooting/modding, i'd say get the iphone 4s, or wait for the official specs of the Nexus
I'm in the same boat friend. I'm on my 3rd SGS2 on AT&T. Now When I take it back this morning I will have the Atrix 2 in store. Do I pick that up instead or go with the SGS2 again.... Screen defects on the SGS2 are killing me.
I bet is att guys don't even get the prime.
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yeah that's why I have to be picky with either another SGS2 or go with the Atrix 2. both seem to have the exact same specs though. Am I reading them right?
Good info!
chocodough said:
Currently I have an Atrix but have the itch for a new phone.
I can't decide whether to get the Atrix 2 or the Galaxy SII. I've played with both and they are both nice, but a few pros/cons for them I've noticed.
Both have similar stats, but although the Atrix 2 still has the qHD screen, the GS2's screen is really incredible.
Thank goodness on the Atrix 2 you do not have to set up a MotoBlur account when you set up the phone. But the regular Blur interface is fine for me. I don't have issues liking it like so many others. I never figured out all the hate with it.
They did improve the shutter speed on the Atrix 2, it snaps the picture faster than the Atrix 1 or the GS2, although the iPhone 4 has the fastest, which is really good when trying to take pictures of your kid when she is always moving. hehe The GS2's shutter is average.
The one thing that really hooked me on my Atrix 1 is how loud the external speaker is. That is a must for me. I used to have the HTC Inspire and that had the worst speaker I've ever noticed. The GS2's speaker is louder than say the Infuse, but not as loud as the Atrix. The Atrix 2 continues on with a nice loud speaker.
The GS2 does feel snappier and a bit faster than the A2.
My big issue I guess is Samsung's lack of quality and how slow they are to issue updates. I used to have the Captivate and that took forever to get FroYo on it. Plus Samsung phones are notorious for lousy GPS units.
So I'm confused which one to get, although I am leaning towards the A2. The GS2 just seems so nice when you pick it up with the great screen and the snappier OS. The Atrix on the other hand has the qHD screen and loud speaker quality.
Oh and if anyone is curious, the A2 does not come with an HDMI mini cable like the A1 did.
Oh, and I am not into rooting/flashing ROMS, so that is not a consideration for me.
Opinions would be welcome.
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We have some of the same taste in phones apparently. I had the Captivate and the Atrix also. I currently have a SGSII which I got on launch day using my upgrade.
I am interested in the Atrix 2 and even more so that you do not need to sign in on motoblur to use! I have enough in Best Buy gift cards to buy the Atrix off contract (450) so I can try it out.
I have not noticed that the SGSII is faster than my OG Atrix in practical tasks so I expect the Atrix 2 to be plenty fast enough. Some issues with the SGSII are the camera while being good quality is sooooo slow to take a picture! The GPS is also not as good as my OG Atrix and I use the Navigation a lot. Also Battery life has not been very impressive for my usage patterns. I am in sales so on the go all the time and cannot be plugging in my phone all the time. With the SGSII I am thinking about recharging by about 4 pm.
I think the only way to know which is for you is to do a trial for 30 days to see. I will try to get the Atrix 2 today and check it out. If I really like it I will return my SGSII and keep my upgrade for something in the future.
It will probably not be this mythical Nexus Prime- I had a Nexus S and a 5 mp camera that cannot zoom? No thanks... Plus 4.65 inch screen...not for me.
Just my two cents.
Sgs2.
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OK after messing with the ATRIX 2 I went and got it. The phone just feels good In the hand. Its very snappy too.
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OK after messing with the ATRIX 2 I went and got it. The phone just feels good In the hand. Its very snappy too.
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Post some pics. I want to see more of this phone. Also, does it get hot like the OG Atrix?
I uploaded a video to You-Tube here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZMZ6RLtGic
I returned my sgs2 this morning and got the atrix 2 now if i could just get the darn thing rooted ?

Hows the phone working out for you guys? (serious question)

I am on a Rezound and this phone is nice, but it has its share of issues(audio hiss/buzz when aux/headphones plugged in, dead pixels, overheating/freezing) & all are known issues.
I have until Friday to do an exchange with Best Buy. Was considering holding out for the Nexus but due to delay after delay I have my doubts it'll be out before Friday. That being the case, I'm seriously considering a RAZR instead.
Has it been working out well for the most part? Any issues like what I'm experiencing on this Rezound? How does the battery hold out under "heavy use"?(like if I want to watch a few movies back to back). Also, for that "fuzziness" on the text/icons, is there a filter to smooth that out?
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I am on a Rezound and this phone is nice, but it has its share of issues(audio hiss/buzz when aux/headphones plugged in, dead pixels, overheating/freezing) & all are known issues.
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I have experienced none of those issues with the RAZR. Keep in mind that under deep dark conditions with the screen at its lowest brightness setting against a black image, many units show some "smudges" or dots. If this concerns you, definitely check one out in the store ahead of time (try downloading draw! and open the app up on the lowest brightness underneath a jacket or shirt..people will probably stare..let them..haha) and judge how this effects you for yourself. I use mine as a night clock and though I can see some smudges in the middle of the night, they don't bother me.
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I have until Friday to do an exchange with Best Buy. Was considering holding out for the Nexus but due to delay after delay I have my doubts it'll be out before Friday. That being the case, I'm seriously considering a RAZR instead.
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I gave up on the Nexus myself. Lack of USB mass storage was the final nail in the coffin for me. I think the RAZR has the potential to turn out a better ICS device than the Nexus.
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Has it been working out well for the most part? Any issues like what I'm experiencing on this Rezound? How does the battery hold out under "heavy use"?(like if I want to watch a few movies back to back). Also, for that "fuzziness" on the text/icons, is there a filter to smooth that out?
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I LOVE my RAZR. Best Android phone I've owned to date. (Prev: Epic 4G, Droid 2, Nexus S, MyTouch 4G, LG G2X, Sensation 4G). Under light use, the battery literally lasts for days if you make proper use of the smart actions. Heavy use? I can't comment on video playback time, but I get about 4-5 hours of 3D gaming before running into battery trouble. There is no filter to help the pixelation around text that the Pentile screen creates, but it doesn't bother me. I find myself impressed by the deep blacks and color reproduction far more often than I do focusing on the Pentile effect, but again, you should view this in person yourself to be sure as everyone is different.
I haven't had the phone very long, only about a week, but so far no issues whatsoever with overheating or freezing at all. This wasn't the case with my OG droid or my droid 2 global.
I got this phone from someone else, so I don't have a contract and will probably switch to the droid 4 when it comes out, but won't consider the Galaxy Nexus at this point, as I can't have a plastic phone. I'm hard on my phones with keeping them in the same pocket as keys, and other items, and have broken many a plastic mounted phone just from that alone.
I do, however don't like the size of the phone overall. I find it a bit too large for me, and have had issues handling it....I'm hoping the Droid 4 has a bit smaller overall dimensions. Also I find the keyboard gives a better grip to the phone...but that's personal preference.
If you're adjusted the Rezound size, you shouldn't have an issue with this.
For screens, this screen is great. I actually was lucky and got one without the dark dots in dark light, so I can't comment on that experience, but the pentile is really almost imperceptible to me. You really have to strain your eyesight to pick up the pentile on this screen. I also agree with brianbrain on the deep blacks and color reproduction on the phone. It's a very good screen, IMO.
I've never owned an HTC phone, but have heard a few complaints similar to what you're talking about with their phones. I know Motorola is not always forthcoming with updates, and they release phones so quickly, you feel they're just out there to screw the consumer, but my experience has been completely different. I couldn't have lived without my OG droid, until the screen went out 1.8 years later, and I had my D2G that was a KILLER phone until I left in Thailand recently. The RAZR is a great addition to the Droid line, and I've had a blast with it since I got it last week.
Phone is awesome. Nothing wrong with this phone. Best phone I've had.
I'm more in live with this phone then the thunderbolt I had. Tbolt felt cheap. screen quality was lacking, and it just seemed slow. I know the rezound is different then the tbolt. But i'm leary on any HTC phone.
The razr feels very solid, very fast and the screen is great (even with the splotches in very low light). I've had battery issues with the media process. I haven't hooked my phone up to a 3.5mm input, so I can't say about any hissing. Having hooked it up to my Bose ie2, it absolutely sounds fantastic.
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I had an Incredible 2, which is kind of the oddball in the HTC lineup as it is one of their only phones that has GREAT battery life (even more ironic considering the T-bolt was so bad and the phones are so similar in hardware) I ended up getting a Razr recently because long story short Verizon was struggling to get 4G going on my tablet on their end so I said screw it and told them to send me a 4G phone.
Even coming from the Inc2, the Razr is a lot better on battery than I thought it was gonna be. Worse than the Inc2 for sure, but it has a bigger display and faster hardware. On 3G (LTE isn't in my specific city yet, but I've used it in others) I make it all day, and I work for 12 hours and use the phone moderately to heavily when I take breaks and get bored. That's acceptable for me considering no matter what I do, I'm gonna plug the phone up at night regardless. When in 4G areas, the speeds are pretty impressive and consistently good. I was averaging 20mbps down and 11-15 up in Augusta, GA.
I played around with the Rezound in the store. It's not a knock on the Rezound specifically, I have not been impressed at all by Sense 3.5. They may as well call it Sense Vista. On the Incredible 2 we have a few Sense 3.5 roms and while they're pretty, to me I can't find the will to run them as a DD because they're laggy. At the time I chalked it up as the Single core snapdragon in the Inc2 struggling to run such a big and graphic intense rom. Then I played around with the Rezound. No real difference. Both are pretty slow compared to Sense 2.1/3.0 honestly. Hopefully Sense 4.0 and ICS will change that, but I'm doubtful given HTC seems to be getting lazier with every new version of Sense.
After a week and a half with the Razr:
Screen rocks IMO
Battery life is better than expected. I go all day (12-14 hours) on one charge, using 4G (maybe 30-40 minutes of phone calls).
Phone is very fast
Width is very akward at first, but you get used to it. First few days you freak out every time you grab for it.
Smart Actions will be great once they tweak them a bit
Voice quality and signal for phone is awesome (coming from an HTC Inc)
I was really wanting a Nexus, got impatient. The battery life, voice quality, and screen on the Nexus would have to be WAY better to make me send the Razr back.
I've had just about every android phone going....nearly ;-)
Actually had the Razr(GSM) for 2 weeks,pretty much loved the phone but was just waiting on the Nexus(GSM).
Well I've had the Nexus since friday,not really impresed,was rooted and custom rommed straight away,buggy as hell.Battery life sucks and that's with GSM, LTE is gonna be even worse.
Cut a long story short,Nexus sold,Razr's coming back. Go for the Razr.
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I'm coming from the Nexus S. Like the phone so far. Motorola did a pretty good job considering I usually like stock Android.
UI doesn't feel intrusive. Motorola seems to have added a lot of useful functions. Been running ICS on the Nexus S, but don't miss it due to the RAZR's hardware.
The phone is amazingly fast. Feel like I've been wasting my time modding the Nexus S so much lately cause the RAZR blows it out of the water even with all the bloatware.
Only problem I've run into so far is blotches on the screen when it is black and the room is dark. Not as bad as some other pics I saw, but still going to try and exchange. Also found a dead pixel.
If I can get a device with a good screen, I think I will stay with the RAZR. I've only seen the Galaxy Nexus display model... possibly might exchange for it when it comes out.
Really like the form factor of the RAZR better tho. If the RAZR had a 720p screen I'd probably be able to easily ignore the Nexus.
Chelsea FC said:
I've had just about every android phone going....nearly ;-)
Actually had the Razr(GSM) for 2 weeks,pretty much loved the phone but was just waiting on the Nexus(GSM).
Well I've had the Nexus since friday,not really impresed,was rooted and custom rommed straight away,buggy as hell.Battery life sucks and that's with GSM, LTE is gonna be even worse.
Cut a long story short,Nexus sold,Razr's coming back. Go for the Razr.
How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS
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How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS [/QUOTE]
I would say the Razr is a tad better, moto is renowned for having good radios
Build quality wise there is no contest for me. Nexus is way too slippery and plasticky for my liking. Modders are already working day & night to make the nexus usable, the Razr works pretty much out of the box. 'When' ICS comes, I think it'll blow everything away.
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Chelsea FC said:
How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS
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Im getting razr tomorrow buying it outright optus network TELECHOICE (GSM AUS)
for $600 from monne ponds vic (told the guy id give him a plug)
i'll let you know how it goes in terms of battery life on GSM
as far as i know motorola's antennas are PRETTY SWEET ... so dont worry about reception.. worry about downloading lots to feed that screen with awesome multimedia and moto cast
samsungs antennas are not bad... but motorola's track record with radios is proven (from UHF RADIOS to SATs experience counts)
nexus has ics but is trolling with bugs i had a play with it ... also looks so ugly next to the razr ... only good thing is the screen .....
however that said the bugs with ics troll the phone making it laggy and you can get jerky playback
so i decided get razr with ginger (motoblur customised to be more like an unbuggy ics) then next year when things perfect the razr will get ics
anyhow thats my rant hope it helps =]
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Chelsea FC said:
How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS
I would say the Razr is a tad better, moto is renowned for having good radios
Build quality wise there is no contest for me. Nexus is way too slippery and plasticky for my liking. Modders are already working day & night to make the nexus usable, the Razr works pretty much out of the box. 'When' ICS comes, I think it'll blow everything away.
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Hard for me to compare since I'm using T-Mobile and Verizon right now. T-Mobile's reception isn't too great in my area, so that's a main reason for me switching.
So far the reception on my RAZR has been great. Blows my Nexus out of the water in that respect, but not sure how much of that is attributed to the phone itself.
Definitely want to keep this phone... just wish the screen problems didn't exist.
google and motorola
apparently motorola will have more say with ics and customisations seeing as google acquired some share/part of motorola which comes in handy .. for razr and future moto users =D
maybe stuff pushed to us sooner ?
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apparently motorola will have more say with ics and customisations seeing as google acquired some share/part of motorola which comes in handy .. for razr and future moto users =D
maybe stuff pushed to us sooner ?
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Got a friend who works over at Moto mobility. He was one of the lead design heads on the Xoom & Droid 4.
The Google acquisition isn't going to truly affect platform builds and blur reductions till late 2H 2012.
They are still working out details on who and what is going where, and how programmers are going to be moved and cut. There's also the small thing of full FCC approval which still hasn't happened as well as EU approvals, which are needed for this (for more info, check out the WSJ article that came out yesterday on the subject). That should be completed by about Feb/March according to him, and then we'll really see some interesting movements. Right now everything is in stasis as far as building and coding are concerned.
So I wouldn't expect any increases in update frequency for a while, and I definitely wouldn't count on Android becoming less bloated on new moto phones for a while to say the least.
There's also been a lot of talk in his office about how Google may not put anything in place, because it could affect their relationship and promises to other handset makers, if they start tweeking with Moto's team a whole bunch.
I'll release info as I get it from him.....although he's interviewing with the automotive division of Moto, as he's not all that satisfied with the position at mobility. They have HEAVY requirements and deadlines, that he seems to think are totally unrealistic....but hey...how many people are really happy with all aspects of their job??
I wonder if the screen issue has been resolved (or even exists) in the GSM versions out there right now. Thinking of getting the Razr but am holding back due to development and the screen issue... Can someone give me an answer about this?
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Was considering holding out for the Nexus
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With a release date of tomorrow, you don't have long to wait on the Nexus, better be at BB early to make sure you get one.
Droid RZR
I just bought the new Droid Rzr today. It seems pretty fast and awesome, however , when I am connected to WIFI, and try to browse in the market, it acts like theres no connectivity. I can browse the web pretty fast when this problem is occuring, then when I disable the WIFI it works. Ive worked for Comcast for five years and I have lots of experience dealing with this kind of stuff, so I know its not the router. Anyone else having this issue?
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I just bought the new Droid Rzr today. It seems pretty fast and awesome, however , when I am connected to WIFI, and try to browse in the market, it acts like theres no connectivity. I can browse the web pretty fast when this problem is occuring, then when I disable the WIFI it works. Ive worked for Comcast for five years and I have lots of experience dealing with this kind of stuff, so I know its not the router. Anyone else having this issue?
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I kinda have the same issue with you. I think it could be my router because out of the 3 routers that I have tried, only 1 is experiencing this problem. And only with the Razr that this happens. Something to do with the router and the phone settings? Anyone knows what might be the problem?
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I am on a Rezound and this phone is nice, but it has its share of issues(audio hiss/buzz when aux/headphones plugged in, dead pixels, overheating/freezing) & all are known issues.
I have until Friday to do an exchange with Best Buy. Was considering holding out for the Nexus but due to delay after delay I have my doubts it'll be out before Friday. That being the case, I'm seriously considering a RAZR instead.
Has it been working out well for the most part? Any issues like what I'm experiencing on this Rezound? How does the battery hold out under "heavy use"?(like if I want to watch a few movies back to back). Also, for that "fuzziness" on the text/icons, is there a filter to smooth that out?
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Read my Thread "Galaxy Nexus" I in general (razr) I just got word I'll have my press sample tomorrow so they are going to release after all. They should be at Best Buy tomorrow as well.

X2 vs TB to hold me over till ICS becomes the standard? More stable better Roms?

I've searched the forums but I couldn't find anything resent and I know with the speed of development any info was probably outdated anyway.
I come from a nook color/gtab/le pan rooting background where the choices are more limited and focused as far as rom selection goes. So some of these DX2 and TB Rom choices are a little over whelming.
I have an upgrade for Verizon but nothing really grabs me right now, but I still want to upgrade from my DX.
My main concern is Rom stability and speed. 3g vs 4g isn't a factor form me since this is just meant to carry me over for 6 months or so.
Your thoughts on what phone and what rom?
Dx2 rom choices are overwhelming?
Don't hear that often. Or ever....
Dx2 is a bad bet. Its a good phone, but with a locked bootloader and Tegra 2 it gets very little dev love.
Go get yourself a nice galaxy nexus. That's my advice.
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Dx2 rom choices are overwhelming?
Don't hear that often. Or ever....
Dx2 is a bad bet. Its a good phone, but with a locked bootloader and Tegra 2 it gets very little dev love.
Go get yourself a nice galaxy nexus. That's my advice.
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I don't want a nexus, hence the original question posted.
If it is just holding you over for 6 months it would be a good investment since you don't care about lte. They'll have quad-cores out by that time. Although i am on cm7, the eclipse rom I think is pretty damn stable.
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If it is just holding you over for 6 months it would be a good investment since you don't care about lte. They'll have quad-cores out by that time. Although i am on cm7, the eclipse rom I think is pretty damn stable.
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The DX2?
I'm used to CM7 from my nook. I like it, I know the CM7 for the DX2 is still in beta though.
Funny you ask, my wife has a TB and I an x2. If 4g is not an issue, I would say X2 hands down. ONLY, if you plan on installing cm7. My phone is blazing fast compared to hers. And smaller and lighter. The gpu on the x2 is light years ahead of the crummy one on the TB. Has less weird issues, and battery life is quite a bit better, even with cm7.
But, honestly, what don't you like about the nexus? I would highly suggest going that route if its an option.
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Oh and thus far cm7 has been pretty stable for me. Stock android on the TB seems to be less so for my wife. Anecdotal of course but there u go.
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Funny you ask, my wife has a TB and I an x2. If 4g is not an issue, I would say X2 hands down. ONLY, if you plan on installing cm7. My phone is blazing fast compared to hers. And smaller and lighter. The gpu on the x2 is light years ahead of the crummy one on the TB. Has less weird issues, and battery life is quite a bit better, even with cm7.
But, honestly, what don't you like about the nexus? I would highly suggest going that route if its an option.
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I HATE the soft buttons. I know its the future of ICS but its just a waste of 1/4 inch of screen real esate. and I might as well wait till there are some second gen ICS phones anyways.
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I HATE the soft buttons. I know its the future of ICS but its just a waste of 1/4 inch of screen real esate. and I might as well wait till there are some second gen ICS phones anyways.
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I don't get that argument. The Nex has a 4.65 inch screen without having a bigger footprint than ours. So even if those buttons NEVER went away (and they do when screen size matters--watching video), it'd still be more screen on a same-size phone.
Also, why waste an upgrade on a 6 month stopgap device? What are you gonna do in 6 months when a phone you do like becomes available--pay the unsubsidized $600 for it?
The last thing I'd do is renew my contract/use my two year upgrade on a DX2 (especially knowing what we know now). Moto's already abandoned the thing, if it weren't for DKZ et al. so would most of us.
Phone flaws I'll never overlook again:
- Locked bootloader
- Pentile display
- Lack of NEON support
Agreed. I second the comment that dude, the soft buttons go away when the full screen is Needed. Such as updated games and when watching videos. Speaking of which, tonight I just picked up a galaxy nexus on eBay. Saw a great price and had to jump on it. X2 has been fun. And honestly, for the folks that did stick on xda for the x2, I'd say, good crowd!!
Back to ur question, I'd say, if ur looking at signing a contract, don't do it on the x2. If u really like the phone, pick one up on ebay. Later in the year look for the Samsung Galaxy S3. Sign a contract on that.
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Phone flaws I'll never overlook again:
- Locked bootloader
- Pentile display
- Lack of NEON support
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Could not have said it better myself!
Though the gnex pentile is fine. But your point there is the same. X2 screen is bad, real bad...
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I don't get that argument. The Nex has a 4.65 inch screen without having a bigger footprint than ours. So even if those buttons NEVER went away (and they do when screen size matters--watching video), it'd still be more screen on a same-size phone.
Also, why waste an upgrade on a 6 month stopgap device? What are you gonna do in 6 months when a phone you do like becomes available--pay the unsubsidized $600 for it?
The last thing I'd do is renew my contract/use my two year upgrade on a DX2 (especially knowing what we know now). Moto's already abandoned the thing, if it weren't for DKZ et al. so would most of us.
Phone flaws I'll never overlook again:
- Locked bootloader
- Pentile display
- Lack of NEON support
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who said anything about using my upgrade on a stop gap dx2? I can pick one up for 150 on ebay and get a better ICS phone in 6 months when it has become available on better hardware.
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who said anything about using my upgrade on a stop gap dx2? I can pick one up for 150 on ebay and get a better ICS phone in 6 months when it has become available on better hardware.
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Silent agreement, me thinks. If that's the case I'd def say x2 over TB, IMHO.
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why does everyone talk **** about pentile screens? This is the ONLY phone I've EVER had that I can actually see the damn screen in bright florida sun and it has almost the same resolution as my netbook that I don't carry anymore because this phone straight up replaced it.
waaaaaaah my pixels arent square... waaaaaaaaaaah...
here's 2 cool features of this phone, real buttons that don't waste space on the digitizer and no forward facing camera. I don't want my phone looking at me.
the ONLY thing I dislike about this phone is the locked bootloader, and it hasn't been THAT much of a problem.
one thing I do know, it gets recpetion where almost all the others don't, and I travel for a living, so that is EXTREMELY important. the only issue I had with mine was the stock SD card was crappy, my phone would freeze and do stupid things until I replaced it... It even go run over by a lifted K5 Blazer (the big one, not the little s10 based one) in the colorado rockies with no screen protector or case or anything and all I have is a tiny scratch on the display and a scratch on the side all the way down to the metal...
yeah, METAL... this phone is made of METAL not wussy-assed taiwanese plastic.
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why does everyone talk **** about pentile screens? This is the ONLY phone I've EVER had that I can actually see the damn screen in bright florida sun and it has almost the same resolution as my netbook that I don't carry anymore because this phone straight up replaced it.
waaaaaaah my pixels arent square... waaaaaaaaaaah...
here's 2 cool features of this phone, real buttons that don't waste space on the digitizer and no forward facing camera. I don't want my phone looking at me.
the ONLY thing I dislike about this phone is the locked bootloader, and it hasn't been THAT much of a problem.
one thing I do know, it gets recpetion where almost all the others don't, and I travel for a living, so that is EXTREMELY important. the only issue I had with mine was the stock SD card was crappy, my phone would freeze and do stupid things until I replaced it... It even go run over by a lifted K5 Blazer (the big one, not the little s10 based one) in the colorado rockies with no screen protector or case or anything and all I have is a tiny scratch on the display and a scratch on the side all the way down to the metal...
yeah, METAL... this phone is made of METAL not wussy-assed taiwanese plastic.
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You, sir, are awesome.
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why does everyone talk **** about pentile screens? This is the ONLY phone I've EVER had that I can actually see the damn screen in bright florida sun and it has almost the same resolution as my netbook that I don't carry anymore because this phone straight up replaced it.
waaaaaaah my pixels arent square... waaaaaaaaaaah...
here's 2 cool features of this phone, real buttons that don't waste space on the digitizer and no forward facing camera. I don't want my phone looking at me.
the ONLY thing I dislike about this phone is the locked bootloader, and it hasn't been THAT much of a problem.
one thing I do know, it gets recpetion where almost all the others don't, and I travel for a living, so that is EXTREMELY important. the only issue I had with mine was the stock SD card was crappy, my phone would freeze and do stupid things until I replaced it... It even go run over by a lifted K5 Blazer (the big one, not the little s10 based one) in the colorado rockies with no screen protector or case or anything and all I have is a tiny scratch on the display and a scratch on the side all the way down to the metal...
yeah, METAL... this phone is made of METAL not wussy-assed taiwanese plastic.
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I must say this is one rock solid phone! One thing Moto did NOT cheap out on was build quality. I have not handled a phone that is more sturdy and sleek (sleek enough for me) than this one. And it has some weight to it, which is not overwhelming but reassuring. I held my friend's SGSII and it was feather light and "felt" cheap...
yeah the rockies story made me look down at my dx2 in a case with a screen protector on it and feel kinda lame. lol.
If you like the screen then I am happy for you and I will agree that it is very bright. But there are plenty of well done tests that show the clear pitfalls of non-amoled pentile screens. I think the x2 is a good phone, but personally the poor colors, awful dark imagine viewing, and the ghosting are more then enough to get me to think twice about pentile. If I'm not mistaken, tomshardware might have called it devil
And buttons are a matter of choice, but after going from the d1 to the fascinate, to the TB, to the x2, I can safely say hardware buttons are not for me.
All in all if you pick up a x2 for $160 on ebay I think you will be happy if you put cm7 on it. But know it has some issues, as do most phones.
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who said anything about using my upgrade on a stop gap dx2? I can pick one up for 150 on ebay and get a better ICS phone in 6 months when it has become available on better hardware.
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I misunderstood your OP. It's a fair phone for $150 unlocked (now that we have 2nd init. roms) if you're not OCD about display issues. Mild screen ghosting is nails-on-a-chalkboard to me, and the DX2 screen ghosts like no other.
Anyway, the DX vs. DX2 seems to be a wash. The DX2 has an extra core (and is a better dyno queen when it comes to benchmarks...like all Tegra 2 devices), but the DX is honestly just as zippy in 90% of tasks. The DX2 has a qHD screen, but the DX display looks better anyway (no ghosting).
If I were you, I'd install CM74DX-GB as seen in this thread:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/10191-updated-info-on-revnumbers-cm4dx-gb1-batt-and-fm-radio-added/
on the X, and rock it for another four months until the SGSIII comes out.
2 cents.
"I don't want my phone looking at me." Lol love it!
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Droid Razr Maxx or Galaxy Nexus?

Hello, I have been on sprint with an Evo 4g for a while now, but due to sprints recent coverage change for my area, I might be switching to verizon. so my question is, which would you all suggest i get? galaxy nexus? or Droid razr Maxx? any big devs going for the razr? easy root process? moto going to unlock the bootloader on it? any and all help is greatly appreciated, thanks - Matt
When I was on the same boat as you 2 days ago, I have to admit it was the toughest choice I have done in a LONG time.
As it stands your looking at this:
Galaxy Nexus Verizon
-Unlocked Bootloader bust that **** open and destroy it with mods
-Nexus phone, quicker to get updates
-Good battery life. Nothing compared to the Maxx though. But check out the battery life on the 4.0.4 leaked update, it's AWESOME.
Droid Razr Maxx
-Great battery life
-No ICS
-Locked bootloader
-To me it's a Nexus with a crazy battery & motoblur skin.
Now, IF the Razr Maxx gets ICS and an unlocked bootloader it will be: Everything pretty much equal except for these:
Great dev modding community, Nexus updates, good battery life vs. Maxx battery (best battery), great dev modding community
There, I put it in a nutshell for you.
I had the Maxx and returned and decided to return it because I didn't need all the battery it supplied and I can adjust the battery on my Nexus to fit my needs perfectly and spare. Lastly, I don't risk Moto not unlocking the bootloader, but ICS it will definitetly get. It would hurt Moto way too much to not give ICS to the Razr Maxx it's tied for the best phones on the market now the other being the GNex. My personal opinion though ICS won't matter since it's not gonna really look AOSP, Motoblur isn't ugly but it's not the nicest when AOSP ICS is on the GNex.
So it's up to you, can you have some patience with the Nexus and adjust it's battery till you get it right to your usage and make it last 18-20 hours? (More with ext. battery)? I'm in that process now. And not risk Moto not making a fully moddable phone? Take your pick, both are excellent choices. WHATEVER you do if you go GNex don't give up on the battery it's really easy to make it last without limiting yourself to 5% brightness and 2G signal. Just have to pinpoint everything and what's the problem.
Lastly, most and all radio/battery problems are easily fixed (if you have them on stock) by not even rooting. Just unlock bootloader and flash 4.0.4. Best update ever.
**I did not consider Camera and other features because both are just fine for a PHONE camera.***
Good Luck.
It all depends on what your requirements are. Personally, I'm on my phone nonstop all, so anything less than enormous battery won't work for me. Plus I have a prejudice against Samsung phones in general.
Worth noting that the Nexus doesn't have a micro SD slot (although it's NAND flash memory is very fast), and the Razr Maxx's battery is not replaceable (according to Motorola -- I've heard from some VZW reps that it can be done).
Either way, it's a gamble.
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Had the Nexus for 3 days then returned it for a razr. That should tell you my opinion.
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Adauth said:
Had the Nexus for 3 days then returned it for a razr. That should tell you my opinion.
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Same here. Got a Nexus demo at work for 2 weeks and did not fall in love with it. I hear 4.0.4 fixes battery but twice it went from 80% to 0% overnight doing nothing but 2 email accounts. Also, the Nexus just felt strange in my hand (I have large hands). I did not like where the power button was because i hold it in my left hand to read email and my index finger kept pressing the button and blanking the screen. The Droid Razr Maxx is in similar place but my index finger ends up well below the button when holding. The Maxx feels more secure in my hand and not like it's going to fall out like with the Nexus.
I rooted and did ROMS on all my previous phones (OG Droid, Droid 2, Droid Incredible) and enjoyed doing away with BLUR on my Motorola's but I'm sure I will do the same with the MAXX. I did like the idea of having the NExus with all the latest updates and development but the Samsung phone just didn't seem as well put together as the Maxx.
My speed tests showed the Maxx faster on WIFI and 4G. The 4G fringe areas work much better after the latest update (this past week), and I was having some issues with the Nexus getting 3G network in some light areas and not with the MAXX.
had the nexus for a week. returned it.
Not sure why anyone would want an AOSP phone. It's like having generic frosted flakes.
Battery life is not an issue for me so even though i knew about the maxx, i got the razr. The nexus is just awkward, buggy and just plain. you NEED a custom rom if you get the nexus.
I prefer the HTC sense UI's over anything else. If HTC would just make a thinner, better looking phone, i would jump all over that. You gotta see a ROM with HTC 3.6 and ICS. it will blow you away. I gave my kid the Sensation XL and loaded this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429953
The greatest ROM i've ever seen. If you want a UI that will just make you smile everytime you use the phone, this is it. But for the RAZR, i'll take motoblur over AOSP anytime.
I don't know how you people like skins over aosp, gross
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I don't know how you people like skins over aosp, gross
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For the same reason that there are tons of launchers, widgets, etcc on the market. Because AOSP means, As Obviously Super Plain as possible. Just kidding of course, but AOSP really is out of the box google. It's meant to offend no one, not step on apple toes (like samsung), and not dazzle anybody. It really reminds me of APPLE iOS.
call someone you know on both phones and ask them which sounds better. then call a voicemail with both phones and listen to playback and listen to the difference in how you sound. if everyone did this Samsung couldn't sell a single phone.
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Hello, I have been on sprint with an Evo 4g for a while now, but due to sprints recent coverage change for my area, I might be switching to verizon. so my question is, which would you all suggest i get? galaxy nexus? or Droid razr Maxx? any big devs going for the razr? easy root process? moto going to unlock the bootloader on it? any and all help is greatly appreciated, thanks - Matt
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You do realize this is a Razr forum right? Then you cant possibly expect an objective voice. Those 80% overnight drop to 0% on Nexus is simply untrue or not true for all. Maybe on that unit yes. 4G speed? I don't know. I had a test on two phones side by side and GNEx beat Razr 4 G speed EVERY time buy at least 1mb. This is based on 20ish tests.
Battery life on Razr Maxx is just KING . So original razr is simply out of this competition PERIOD .
Except it is thinnest which you can't really USE that 7.1mm to do anything . Except cutting a cheese.
Gnex is for dev. Its openness is best. Razr Max is for regular user . So depends on which type you are
Disclaimer. I own both phones.
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The 5MP cam on the Nexus is an Absolut deal breaker for me. If it wasn’t for that, if the Nexus had an 8MP cam, it would be a fairly hard choice. But i use my phone cam like crazy so it completely ruled the Nexus out for me.
Hi all-
I ended up getting both. I got spoiled very quickly with ICS on my Xoom tablet. I have to admit that I also love ICS on the Nexus as well... However, and this is just my humble opinion.. The battery life is considerably better on the Razr than on the Nexus. Yes I have removed all of the battery draining apps. Tried several roms, Blah blah. On and on it goes. I've spent many an hour doing things that others claim to be the 'solution' to achieving great battery life on the Nexus. Well, I'm here to tell you that as far as I'm concerned, Samsung desperately needs to return to the drawing board and practice up on their battery design as that has been my number one issue with their device to date. Believe me, I got really SPOILED with the Razr's supreme battery performance. I easily achieved two days with it, yet with the Nexus I have not been able to make a full 12 hour day, and this is even with the extended battery. It isn't an ICS issue either as my Xoom plays for hours on end with little concern over battery life. I have also found that RF-wise the Razr wins hands down. I am aware of radio software improvements in ICS 4.0.4 and above. Perhaps with those updates coming down the pike some positives will be made in that area and I'm good with that.
No doubt other Nexus owners will disagree with me and that's fine. I'm only commenting on what *I* have experienced with the Nexus. Even though I have the freedom of running stock Android on the thing which truly is very very nice, I still have to confess that from a hardware standpoint my experience so far has been less than stellar.
I want to wait and see what Moto has up their sleeve with ICS once they implement it on the Razr. I may well take the leap back to it once that happens, but even with the mediocre battery life and RF performance on the Nexus, I plan on retaining it afterward if nothing else as a developer unit as I don't expect Moto to ever release the bootloader on the Razr.
The developers who are cranking out the roms for the Nexus (as well as the Xoom) are incredibly talented. It fascinates me to sit back and watch all of this in action. It makes me wonder where did all of this creativity come from prior to the emergence of smart phones.
Bottom line is that I firmly believe both handsets are worthy of ownership in their own right but I still lean towards the Razr. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
skoone68 said:
Hi all-
I ended up getting both. I got spoiled very quickly with ICS on my Xoom tablet. I have to admit that I also love ICS on the Nexus as well... However, and this is just my humble opinion.. The battery life is considerably better on the Razr than on the Nexus. Yes I have removed all of the battery draining apps. Tried several roms, Blah blah. On and on it goes. I've spent many an hour doing things that others claim to be the 'solution' to achieving great battery life on the Nexus. Well, I'm here to tell you that as far as I'm concerned, Samsung desperately needs to return to the drawing board and practice up on their battery design as that has been my number one issue with their device to date. Believe me, I got really SPOILED with the Razr's supreme battery performance. I easily achieved two days with it, yet with the Nexus I have not been able to make a full 12 hour day, and this is even with the extended battery. It isn't an ICS issue either as my Xoom plays for hours on end with little concern over battery life. I have also found that RF-wise the Razr wins hands down. I am aware of radio software improvements in ICS 4.0.4 and above. Perhaps with those updates coming down the pike some positives will be made in that area and I'm good with that.
No doubt other Nexus owners will disagree with me and that's fine. I'm only commenting on what *I* have experienced with the Nexus. Even though I have the freedom of running stock Android on the thing which truly is very very nice, I still have to confess that from a hardware standpoint my experience so far has been less than stellar.
I want to wait and see what Moto has up their sleeve with ICS once they implement it on the Razr. I may well take the leap back to it once that happens, but even with the mediocre battery life and RF performance on the Nexus, I plan on retaining it afterward if nothing else as a developer unit as I don't expect Moto to ever release the bootloader on the Razr.
The developers who are cranking out the roms for the Nexus (as well as the Xoom) are incredibly talented. It fascinates me to sit back and watch all of this in action. It makes me wonder where did all of this creativity come from prior to the emergence of smart phones.
Bottom line is that I firmly believe both handsets are worthy of ownership in their own right but I still lean towards the Razr. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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Can you comment on the quality of *outgoing* voice quality when comparing the two handsets?
So what kind of future will a Maxx have if I buy one?
I love the things I can do with my Thunderbolt, but want the battery. Will ROM's be as diverse as my TB? I love the CM7 ROM's I have. I am just unclear as to what the bootloader will stop me from doing in the future.
Is it possible that CM9 could eventually work on it?
Are there any ROM's that have the hotspot enabled without the carrier option?
Sorry for newb questions. Just want to make sure I dont buy a phone I hate.
iolinux333 said:
Can you comment on the quality of *outgoing* voice quality when comparing the two handsets?
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Having had both, didn't notice any difference
jiwengang said:
You do realize this is a Razr forum right? Then you cant possibly expect an objective voice. Those 80% overnight drop to 0% on Nexus is simply untrue or not true for all. Maybe on that unit yes. 4G speed? I don't know. I had a test on two phones side by side and GNEx beat Razr 4 G speed EVERY time buy at least 1mb. This is based on 20ish tests.
Battery life on Razr Maxx is just KING . So original razr is simply out of this competition PERIOD .
Except it is thinnest which you can't really USE that 7.1mm to do anything . Except cutting a cheese.
Gnex is for dev. Its openness is best. Razr Max is for regular user . So depends on which type you are
Disclaimer. I own both phones.
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I also own both phones! I have the Razr Maxx because for work I need to have good call and sound quality and the Razr is awesome in both areas but for the inner geek I have the Nexus which can't be beat for Dev support and updates and pure fun but the sound quality is poor on calls and speaker phone. I have also had many calls where the person I am talking to can no longer hear me.
My advice! Get both!
reimerj
I had the RAZR for 2 months now.
One thing I don't like about it, is the display. The colors looks beautiful, but the text doesn't play nice with my eyes. I've heard it's because Motorola uses Pentil display. Other than the display the phone is great, with solid and premium build quality.
Get the Maxx. I got the Nexus when it came out, and I have had nothing but disappointment from it. I really wanted to love it. I wanted to have a *true* google phone... but they just skimped out too much on the hardware.
The cell antenna in it downright blows. It's unusable at my house, where the Maxx works just fine (other people with Verizon phones in my house also work fine).
The camera on the Nexus also blows. It's fine outside, or in really really well lit rooms during the day, but don't even bother trying to take pictures in any kind of low light, they just look terrible. I don't care about megapixels, but I do care about whether or not the pictures look like junk.
The battery on the Nexus blows (seeing a pattern here?). It lasts 12 hours, with very minimal use. It's aggravating to have to run and drop it on the charger as soon as I get home.
There's no SD slot on the Nexus... which didn't matter to me, but some people care. You can still copy files on and off it from windows, and 32 gigs is a lot of space for most people.
The only good thing about the Nexus is the screen, which is admittedly awesome. The Maxx's screen looks pretty good though, even side by side with the Maxx. And don't let the dimensions of the screens fool you, they're very very close in usable size - the Nexus loses a bunch of pixels for its on-screen buttons, which seem to only disappear when watching videos. The height of the screens are just about the same, the Nexus is just slightly wider.
ICS is also SO much better than gingerbread... but if you're here, you can install a ROM and do just fine with the Maxx.
Im waiting on a razr maxx to arrive fed ex tomorrow. I am coming from a samsung charge with a total bad experience. Signal,battery and gps issues. Hope this is all solved with the new phone as Im sick of hearing it from the wife. She now swears samsung off and wants a motorola because when she had the dx2 gps was never a problem.
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Im waiting on a razr maxx to arrive fed ex tomorrow. I am coming from a samsung charge with a total bad experience. Signal,battery and gps issues. Hope this is all solved with the new phone as Im sick of hearing it from the wife. She now swears samsung off and wants a motorola because when she had the dx2 gps was never a problem.
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Had the Droid charge too. After the lousy development, went to the Nexus Galaxy to get the A++ development. It was there, but too much plain ol AOSP for my liking. Saw a co-worker with the razr and instantly loved the blur and exchanged my phone. The 7mm thiness of the phone is just aluring to me. i love handling such a light and thin phone. The little bump on the top backside also helps to give it an angle when i lay it down. Its like the designers thought of everything.

RAZR, iPhone4S or Galaxy Nexus?

Ive decided to get a new phone (Well, actually my HTC decided for me by having its touchscreen die) but I'm not entirely sure what to get.
(The part that sucks about this, is all the new quadcore phones and iPhone 5 coming soon/later this year)
The Galaxy Note was just too big, so I've narrowed it down to the Galaxy Nexus, Moto RAZR and iphone4S. How have you found the GN to be? Is there anything I should keep in mind?
The RAZR and the GN have pretty much the same GPU/CPU combo, but the GN has a better screen, right? For those of you who have tried both, is there a major visible difference between the GN screen and the screen on the RAZR?
(Yes, I've heard all about the Pentile display, but it doesn't really bother me on the RAZR. I tried as hard as I can, and I can't tell the difference. Probably because the resolution is so high...)
The thing that's holding me back from the GN is the camera. I've heard that its fast, but not very good (Esp. compared to the iPhones camera) and at 5MP the resolution is pretty small these days.
The RAZR is kinda tempting because of all the accessories (Lapdock etc,) the ultra thin design, 8MP camera (Thou I've heard the quality is so-so) and being expandable up to 48 GB. But how is the camera on the RAZR? I've noticed it shoots pretty fast, but how does it compare quality wise?
I'm trying to keep ICS out of the equation, since the RAZR will have it soon.
And then theres the iPhone. I've heard the camera is awesome on it, it has a GPU that still can't be beat by any Android phone, and Apple is really awesome with providing updates quick, and for a long time after they released a phone. The thing that really holds me back though, is the 3.5 inch screen. Yes, it's an awesome screen, and amazing PPI, but I'm not sure I could get used to a screen that small after having an SGSII and Evo3D for a while with a 4.3 inch screen.
So yeah, is there anything about the RAZR I should know about? What phone would you choose if you haven't chosen what you have? And how do you find the battery life?
Dude it depends on your experience by using Android phones or IOS Phones for me 4s is better cuz it has lots of features when jailbreaked....About Nexus its cool but kinda "slow" IOS Has better speed and performance I mean NO LAGG at 4S
PLEASE GIMME THANKS!
From those 3 phones I would choose the Razr. The thing that is bringing up the thought of returning mine is the bootloader: will it get unlocked or not, if so when? The apple Iphone I would simply never ever consider it because the phone is so locked(no widgets etc) and the Gnex is awesome because there is so many roms+ unlocked BL. But if the RAZR gets the BL unloacked I think it will be a beast. The built quality is one of the best i`ve seen on an Android phone. Beats bith the Gnex and Iphone.
Sorry for spelling mistakes I am writing this on my tab without auto correction.
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Dude it depends on your experience by using Android phones or IOS Phones for me 4s is better cuz it has lots of features when jailbreaked....About Nexus its cool but kinda "slow" IOS Has better speed and performance I mean NO LAGG at 4S
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There is no lag on ICS Gnex either...get ur facts straight
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romdroid. said:
There is no lag on ICS Gnex either...get ur facts straight
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Don't teach me cuz my dad has an jailbreaked 4s and my GD has nexus so I now the difference!
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Don't teach me cuz my dad has an jailbreaked 4s and my GF has nexus so I now the difference!
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Don't teach me cuz my dad has an jailbreaked 4s and my GD has nexus so I now the difference!
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LOL my friend have both a Gnex and IP4S and I can see no diffrence, you must be blind or something. Also u need to jailbreak ur phone in order to take controll over it, pathetic.
GN for sure. More dev support.
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My advice is the Razr as i have had a Iphone4s and nexus and a Galaxy S2
the razr is best in build quality along with the iphone4S
Iphone 4S is the most overrated hardware in this century so far i kept it for 1 day and sold it
While Samsung phones feel all cheap and nasty but have great features
The Razr is a great phone and its now my main phone , defo the best phone on the market at present
only bad side to Razr is locked bootloader and it doesnt have WIFI direct
great roms Icecream Sandwich roms already out put the phone to near full potential
Cant really fault this phone its the best by far
I came to the Razr Maxx from the Evo 3D. I loved the Evo 4G and Evo 3D. You won't notice anything about the screen that overly zealous people are complaining about on the Razr's screen. The screen is great. But get the Maxx. The battery lasts all day long. You'll really like that feature.
The Apple's screen is just too small. It would be nice if they released a phone with a bigger screen and loosened their control over the device just a bit. With Jobs dead now you would think that might happen but I wouldn't hold my breath. Afterall, why give the public something they might want. Apple knows best.
get an iphone kthxbai
For me decision to buy a razr was quite easy. I had 3gs & 2x iP 4 and I definitely didn't want to come back to this s#*%. I'm talking abt iTunes and othes "advantages" of IOS.
Samsung devices are realy high performance but.. looks and feels like a piece of crappy plastic. But I wanted nice and solid looking device.
Well, that's my story.
ZeWhiteRabbit said:
Dude it depends on your experience by using Android phones or IOS Phones for me 4s is better cuz it has lots of features when jailbreaked....About Nexus its cool but kinda "slow" IOS Has better speed and performance I mean NO LAGG at 4S
PLEASE GIMME THANKS!
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thanks whore.
I wouldn't add much to what everyone here has already said. It basically boils down to preference.
iPhone 4s has a really smooth interface and yeah iOS is optimized like ****! But then you're hardware support is gonna run out pretty soon cuz it has no dev community. Also if you're an experiment freak like me, you're gonna feel caged. You'll be stuck with an older version of iOS while all the newer Apple devices will get updated.
With Android that isn't the case, I still have my old 2010 SE Xperia X8 and even it's got an ICS port. So device support (at least unofficially) isn't an issue.
Now coming down to GNex vs. RAZR
RAZR wins out on almost every front. Better build quality, signal/reception, camera, call quality and GPS. A smaller screen and lesser res(it in no way looks pixellated or anything, the display is just beautiful but statistically lesser in res and size) with the same GPU as GNex means you'll get higher frame rates as games start taxing these GPUs. Also its the slimmest in the world(one of a kind) with a revolutionary design so you got bragging rights too!
The RAZR has a TI OMAP 4430, which is a lower model that GNex's TI OMAP 4460, but then their both clocked at 1.2 GHz. Untill we get overclocking support, you won't actually notice any difference at stock speeds.(please correct me if im wrong here)
The RAZR does lose out on the locked bootloader and direct update support. But we've heard from kholk that a bootloader bypass is on the way and also that Motorola is planning to unlock our bootloaders with the ICS update in Q2.
The fact that Gnex has ICS again doesn't matter much. ICS doesn't bring any thing really useful to the table. Its just like a hyper-optimized Gingerbread. No lags, smooth UI and all that ****.
The RAZR is scheduled for the ICS update anyways and I'm pretty sure that it'll see android 5.0 too!
PS: Even if the Gnex was better than the RAZR in every damned specification, I would still buy the RAZR. I just can't stand the plastic on Samsung phones. When the hell are they gonna learn that you don't put something as cheap as plastic on high end phones! :/
BTW tried to keep my thoughts as unbiased as possible. Hope it helped!
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Sorry forgot somethings!
Battery on the RAZR is awesome! I can easily get 1.5 days of normal usage with some wifi (no data however). Also you can use setCPU to lower processor speeds when the screen is off! Thats a big battery booster!
Battery Life Order:
RAZR>iPhone 4S> GNEX(Battery on the GNEX truly SUCKS!, idk what samsung was thinking)
Aashrey99 said:
I wouldn't add much to what everyone here has already said. It basically boils down to preference.
iPhone 4s has a really smooth interface and yeah iOS is optimized like ****! But then you're hardware support is gonna run out pretty soon cuz it has no dev community. Also if you're an experiment freak like me, you're gonna feel caged. You'll be stuck with an older version of iOS while all the newer Apple devices will get updated.
With Android that isn't the case, I still have my old 2010 SE Xperia X8 and even it's got an ICS port. So device support (at least unofficially) isn't an issue.
Now coming down to GNex vs. RAZR
RAZR wins out on almost every front. Better build quality, signal/reception, camera, call quality and GPS. A smaller screen and lesser res(it in no way looks pixellated or anything, the display is just beautiful but statistically lesser in res and size) with the same GPU as GNex means you'll get higher frame rates as games start taxing these GPUs. Also its the slimmest in the world(one of a kind) with a revolutionary design so you got bragging rights too!
The RAZR has a TI OMAP 4430, which is a lower model that GNex's TI OMAP 4460, but then their both clocked at 1.2 GHz. Untill we get overclocking support, you won't actually notice any difference at stock speeds.(please correct me if im wrong here)
The RAZR does lose out on the locked bootloader and direct update support. But we've heard from kholk that a bootloader bypass is on the way and also that Motorola is planning to unlock our bootloaders with the ICS update in Q2.
The fact that Gnex has ICS again doesn't matter much. ICS doesn't bring any thing really useful to the table. Its just like a hyper-optimized Gingerbread. No lags, smooth UI and all that ****.
The RAZR is scheduled for the ICS update anyways and I'm pretty sure that it'll see android 5.0 too!
PS: Even if the Gnex was better than the RAZR in every damned specification, I would still buy the RAZR. I just can't stand the plastic on Samsung phones. When the hell are they gonna learn that you don't put something as cheap as plastic on high end phones! :/
BTW tried to keep my thoughts as unbiased as possible. Hope it helped!
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Sorry forgot somethings!
Battery on the RAZR is awesome! I can easily get 1.5 days of normal usage with some wifi (no data however). Also you can use setCPU to lower processor speeds when the screen is off! Thats a big battery booster!
Battery Life Order:
RAZR>iPhone 4S> GNEX(Battery on the GNEX truly SUCKS!, idk what samsung was thinking)
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Ya when you can run custom kernels on the RAZR it will be awesome.
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All in what you want. IPhone has kinda a Fisher Price ui IMO. It is fast & smooth. And is missing lee capability. Screen is beautiful, but tiny.
Nexus has a cheap battery door. The camera is small, but fast. And there us no SD slot. Deal killer for me.
I have a couple Razr Maxx's. I love them. They are sturdy, and the battery life is phenomenal. Motorola Blur is coming along nicely. The smart actions are extremely handy, as is Motocast. HDMI has full mirroring, which is also nice. The nano-coating is not only water resistant, its fingerprint resistant. Bootloader is the only negative for this phone, unless you're looking for NFC or a barometer.
If u are a crack flasher, u might want the nexus. Otherwise, for something that just dominated out of the box, Maxx can't be beat yet IMO. Don't waste you're money on a og Razr. U will just end up frustrated with battery life.
Hey I would consider the rezound out of all of them. It has the best screen out with 720p 4.3" display, equal to the galaxy nexus but sharper. 32gb of storage, 8mp camera with 1080p recording. 2mp front face camera. Beats audio, Dual core 1.5ghz snapdragon processor. Dev support is outstanding. Mine is running android 4.0.3 ics and has face lock. Phone is the only one aside from the Thunderbolt that can talk and surf at the sametime on 3g and 4g. The other 4g phones on Verizon can only do it on 4g. It's rooted and has free WiFi tethering. The galaxy nexus is ok but it gets boring from times. Vanilla ics is ok for some. The 5mp camera was not that great and I dislike the fact that there is no external sd card slot. The only thing great to me about the nexus is getting the updates first. I wish HTC was still making the galaxy line up. The razr is ok. It has great signal, battery life is great. Screen is pretty good. I don't know if it's that new pin tile technology on the razor or not but I hate the pin tile. Looks grainy or something when looking at it close. I hate motoblur. The only thing nice about blur widgets were that they were resizable but they suck to me. There like windows phone 7 tiles without the live action. The rezound is a excellent phone in my opinion. HTC sense is just a better UI to me. Sense 4.0 is even better and runs very light on the Rom. Or with the rezound you can also go with the vanilla feel of ics. Screen is incredible. Music sounds amazing, never had a problem with signal. My battery life is great with dev support getting 14hrs out of my rezound with heavy use. Camera is beautiful.
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Hey I would consider the rezound out of all of them. It has the best screen out with 720p 4.3" display, equal to the galaxy nexus but sharper. 32gb of storage, 8mp camera with 1080p recording. 2mp front face camera. Beats audio, Dual core 1.5ghz snapdragon processor. Dev support is outstanding. Mine is running android 4.0.3 ics and has face lock. Phone is the only one aside from the Thunderbolt that can talk and surf at the sametime on 3g and 4g. The other 4g phones on Verizon can only do it on 4g. It's rooted and has free WiFi tethering. The galaxy nexus is ok but it gets boring from times. Vanilla ics is ok for some. The 5mp camera was not that great and I dislike the fact that there is no external sd card slot. The only thing great to me about the nexus is getting the updates first. I wish HTC was still making the galaxy line up. The razr is ok. It has great signal, battery life is great. Screen is pretty good. I don't know if it's that new pin tile technology on the razor or not but I hate the pin tile. Looks grainy or something when looking at it close. I hate motoblur. The only thing nice about blur widgets were that they were resizable but they suck to me. There like windows phone 7 tiles without the live action. The rezound is a excellent phone in my opinion. HTC sense is just a better UI to me. Sense 4.0 is even better and runs very light on the Rom. Or with the rezound you can also go with the vanilla feel of ics. Screen is incredible. Music sounds amazing, never had a problem with signal. My battery life is great with dev support getting 14hrs out of my rezound with heavy use. Camera is beautiful.
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The Sense UI on the HTC rezound actually makes the phone lag! Sorry dude, I hate Sense with a passion! Seen too many HTC phones with my friends. :/
And the 1.5 Ghz dual core processor isn't even a true dual core. Its more on a makeshift arrangement. Thats the reason why HTC Rezound is beaten by the RAZR and other TI OMAP dual core phones in benchmarks. And as far as Beats are concerned, its just a software equalizer, nothing else and its already been ported!
And an LCD display doesn't even come close to a S-AMOLED display when it comes to color contrast and brightness. Besides AMOLEDs eat less battery with dark colors!
Also the Rezound is bulky and HTC is probably gonna kill hardware support for it very soon in light of the new HTC One series release. So I don't think its that good an option.
Dont go the Apple way, I just did but couldnt go back, to many things is just missing.
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It all depends on what you're looking for the most in using your phone. For me, getting all my calls, texts, and voice mails on time, are number 1 priority. And Motorola is known to make great wireless radios. The internet speeds are awesome on it. I love the Droid Razr. Not a big fan of the screen display technology but it's easy to get use to. Also not a big fan of the TI OMap processor, I think it's kinda slow but it's not a big enough issue to drive me away. It has a nice camera and it's a really nice smartphone. The build quality is fantastic in my opinion. The device just looks beautiful. I read and also have heard in videos that Motorola isn't gonna be seeing ICS updates until 3RD quarter of the year. That's pretty late. If you're thinking about getting the Razr, I would get the Razr Maxx. But the thing that sucks about the Maxx is that right now it only comes in black I believe. The OG Razr comes in black, white, and purple.
If you want the ICS OS right now or you plan to root and flash roms, your best choice is the Galaxy Nexus. Google phones are made for development. I expected something amazing with the Galaxy Nexus but it's ok to me. Only thing it has that I like is ICS. The display is ok. I expected better with 720p HD.
Iphone 4s has a great camera and screen display. It looks to be smooth when I play with it. I never owned one so I don't know. My friend who was an android head for years went to get a iPhone and he loves it. Says it's smooth no lag. Not as many bugs as android. I may have to mess around and get a iPhone in the future lol. But it would absolutely need to have a bigger screen and it would have to be a 4G device. The current screen size with iPhone is too small for my taste but hey some people might not care.

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