Currently I have an Atrix but have the itch for a new phone.
I can't decide whether to get the Atrix 2 or the Galaxy SII. I've played with both and they are both nice, but a few pros/cons for them I've noticed.
Both have similar stats, but although the Atrix 2 still has the qHD screen, the GS2's screen is really incredible.
Thank goodness on the Atrix 2 you do not have to set up a MotoBlur account when you set up the phone. But the regular Blur interface is fine for me. I don't have issues liking it like so many others. I never figured out all the hate with it.
They did improve the shutter speed on the Atrix 2, it snaps the picture faster than the Atrix 1 or the GS2, although the iPhone 4 has the fastest, which is really good when trying to take pictures of your kid when she is always moving. hehe The GS2's shutter is average.
The one thing that really hooked me on my Atrix 1 is how loud the external speaker is. That is a must for me. I used to have the HTC Inspire and that had the worst speaker I've ever noticed. The GS2's speaker is louder than say the Infuse, but not as loud as the Atrix. The Atrix 2 continues on with a nice loud speaker.
The GS2 does feel snappier and a bit faster than the A2.
My big issue I guess is Samsung's lack of quality and how slow they are to issue updates. I used to have the Captivate and that took forever to get FroYo on it. Plus Samsung phones are notorious for lousy GPS units.
So I'm confused which one to get, although I am leaning towards the A2. The GS2 just seems so nice when you pick it up with the great screen and the snappier OS. The Atrix on the other hand has the qHD screen and loud speaker quality.
Oh and if anyone is curious, the A2 does not come with an HDMI mini cable like the A1 did.
Oh, and I am not into rooting/flashing ROMS, so that is not a consideration for me.
Opinions would be welcome.
Good rant.
Get one, if you don't like it, you have 30 days to return it.
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Yeah nobody cares. Decide on your own. Why does everyone feel like someone needs to decide for them?
Why would anyone consider buying a phone right now, when the next Nexus phone is set to be announced on the 19th.
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Yeah nobody cares. Decide on your own. Why does everyone feel like someone needs to decide for them?
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I think you need some manners. You won't get far in life being so rude to people. But I guess you weren't brought up right.
I was just asking for opinions. If you don't care then don't post.
I personally would go for the A2. even though the sgs II is a little snappier. i would have to go for the fact that the A2 continues with great loud speaker. i too had the inspire for a short time and it was taken back and replaced by my atrix. I havent had the chance to play with the A2 or the sgs II however if A2 doesnt have a mini hdmi... which i hope you mean isn't included in the box.... not that it doesnt have the output. which would make you wonder why they changed that as that is really one of the better functions of the A1.... i would look at what the quality of both rear and forward camera is on both.. sgs II has an 8 rear and a 2 in front. not sure what the A2 has... also the qhd display.... if the sgs II continues with the super amoled screen i would do this as the screen display is better than anything else.... its your call. but if the sgs II is anything like first gen sgs phones in construction and built cheap... i would pass.
good luck on your quest
iPhone 4s
(S2 or wait a month lol)
wait for Galaxy Nexus
The Atrix 2 doesnt look bad
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I say wait until nexus is announced. That would be more of an upgrade then the a2 or the s2
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honestly, if u don't plan on rooting/modding, i'd say get the iphone 4s, or wait for the official specs of the Nexus
I'm in the same boat friend. I'm on my 3rd SGS2 on AT&T. Now When I take it back this morning I will have the Atrix 2 in store. Do I pick that up instead or go with the SGS2 again.... Screen defects on the SGS2 are killing me.
I bet is att guys don't even get the prime.
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yeah that's why I have to be picky with either another SGS2 or go with the Atrix 2. both seem to have the exact same specs though. Am I reading them right?
Good info!
chocodough said:
Currently I have an Atrix but have the itch for a new phone.
I can't decide whether to get the Atrix 2 or the Galaxy SII. I've played with both and they are both nice, but a few pros/cons for them I've noticed.
Both have similar stats, but although the Atrix 2 still has the qHD screen, the GS2's screen is really incredible.
Thank goodness on the Atrix 2 you do not have to set up a MotoBlur account when you set up the phone. But the regular Blur interface is fine for me. I don't have issues liking it like so many others. I never figured out all the hate with it.
They did improve the shutter speed on the Atrix 2, it snaps the picture faster than the Atrix 1 or the GS2, although the iPhone 4 has the fastest, which is really good when trying to take pictures of your kid when she is always moving. hehe The GS2's shutter is average.
The one thing that really hooked me on my Atrix 1 is how loud the external speaker is. That is a must for me. I used to have the HTC Inspire and that had the worst speaker I've ever noticed. The GS2's speaker is louder than say the Infuse, but not as loud as the Atrix. The Atrix 2 continues on with a nice loud speaker.
The GS2 does feel snappier and a bit faster than the A2.
My big issue I guess is Samsung's lack of quality and how slow they are to issue updates. I used to have the Captivate and that took forever to get FroYo on it. Plus Samsung phones are notorious for lousy GPS units.
So I'm confused which one to get, although I am leaning towards the A2. The GS2 just seems so nice when you pick it up with the great screen and the snappier OS. The Atrix on the other hand has the qHD screen and loud speaker quality.
Oh and if anyone is curious, the A2 does not come with an HDMI mini cable like the A1 did.
Oh, and I am not into rooting/flashing ROMS, so that is not a consideration for me.
Opinions would be welcome.
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We have some of the same taste in phones apparently. I had the Captivate and the Atrix also. I currently have a SGSII which I got on launch day using my upgrade.
I am interested in the Atrix 2 and even more so that you do not need to sign in on motoblur to use! I have enough in Best Buy gift cards to buy the Atrix off contract (450) so I can try it out.
I have not noticed that the SGSII is faster than my OG Atrix in practical tasks so I expect the Atrix 2 to be plenty fast enough. Some issues with the SGSII are the camera while being good quality is sooooo slow to take a picture! The GPS is also not as good as my OG Atrix and I use the Navigation a lot. Also Battery life has not been very impressive for my usage patterns. I am in sales so on the go all the time and cannot be plugging in my phone all the time. With the SGSII I am thinking about recharging by about 4 pm.
I think the only way to know which is for you is to do a trial for 30 days to see. I will try to get the Atrix 2 today and check it out. If I really like it I will return my SGSII and keep my upgrade for something in the future.
It will probably not be this mythical Nexus Prime- I had a Nexus S and a 5 mp camera that cannot zoom? No thanks... Plus 4.65 inch screen...not for me.
Just my two cents.
Sgs2.
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OK after messing with the ATRIX 2 I went and got it. The phone just feels good In the hand. Its very snappy too.
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OK after messing with the ATRIX 2 I went and got it. The phone just feels good In the hand. Its very snappy too.
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Post some pics. I want to see more of this phone. Also, does it get hot like the OG Atrix?
I uploaded a video to You-Tube here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZMZ6RLtGic
I returned my sgs2 this morning and got the atrix 2 now if i could just get the darn thing rooted ?
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i was willing to buy the Atrix 4g for its dualcore beast and right now we hav 3 of that kind. Can anybody suggest the best one out of the Three???
SGS 2. 'nuff said.
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for $800 it better wipe your a$$.
-i have heard disappointing reviews on the camera, wifi, touchwiz, build quality, samsung updates(though motorola is bad with bell users).
-i wouldnt buy an LG as they have no solid track record and too many complaints to list
-atrix has its fair share of problems primarily the bootloader and camera isnt the greatest.
Anyone else kinda disappointed by this new generation of dual cores as a whole?
Nope i love my sg2 much more than my atrix!
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if i could atleast have it in my hand and it was $150 or more less I would definitely consider it.
Having both devices, what are the benefits of sgs2? Be as unbiased as possible please.
where did u buy the S2?
People harp on about the SG2 being all plasticy, but compared to the atrix it feels much more solid. the case shell on the atrix creaks whenever i hold it, whether that be age 'wear and tear' or what not.
i find the camera to be much better than the atrix
the screen is much better on the SG2 but thats personal choice
i do miss quirky features such as the fingerprint reader and webtop but thats about it. Everything else the SG2 does the same if not better. Even in stock form, no mods comparing the two it becomes much greater. as gingerblur fixed alot of problems (motoblur!)
saying that, the Atrix is still the 2nd best device i had!
my 2 cents
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where did u buy the S2?
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handtec, got it sent from UK to AUS in 4 days!
Sorry. but f**k the Galaxy S II! The Galaxy S I9000 was soooooooo much better. From what ive heard, the Optimus 2X has really good build quality. But yeah they have a terrible track record, usually they make products with crappy quality. The Atrix is sweet but the locked bootloader and the fact that we have to wait for Motorola for updates; that drags it down.
1) Moto Atrix
2) LG Optimus 2X
3) Galaxy S II
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Sorry. but f**k the Galaxy S II! The Galaxy S I9000 was soooooooo much better. From what ive heard, the Optimus 2X has really good build quality. But yeah they have a terrible track record, usually they make products with crappy quality. The Atrix is sweet but the locked bootloader and the fact that we have to wait for Motorola for updates; that drags it down.
1) Moto Atrix
2) LG Optimus 2X
3) Galaxy S II
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So guys....I just want a nice cellphone. I don't care for root and stuff. So, I guess the atrix will be fine for me right?
Do the G2x and S2 have been unlocked yet?
ty vm and sry about my english, Im trying to improve
If you want the best everyday phone I would buy the atrix battery last a day or more!
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LOL @ the guy who said the phone creaks in his hand. that is such utter LIES.
In any case, Samsung has a pretty horrible track record with the i9000 quality. Just look up i9000m internal SD on google and have fun sorting through that mess.. A phone that just auto nukes its internal SD whenever it wants.
As for the Atrix it has IMO an amazing screen (which you can use at full brightness) at little penatly on the giant battery.
If you wanna save battery and use juice defender the max I have gotten out of it before dying is 56 hours.... on a single charge.
So yeah.
Thanks for all the suggestion guys.. The Quadrant benchmarks of samsung galaxy sII ended up being something like around 3500 which is the heighest till date...atrix is around 2700 i guess...any comments on this fact??
Things aren't perfect with the SG2 there's the:
1. Heat dissipation issues were people are already returning their phones just for that alone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068663
2. WiFi Issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1067473
3. (Much More Than Normal) "Dead Pixel" Screens
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065935
4. Lack of Notification LED - (most knew about this already)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058596
I'm not going to say which phone is better since they All 3 phones have their issues, but it's also interesting to watch people dropping $750-$1000 already thinking the SG2 will be the perfect device. (yes there's no perfect device blah blah blah...)
Anywhoo... For the record, I'm not totally trilled with the Atrix at this moment either. I've also thought about switching to the SG2 already myself, but IMO it's too high of a price tag to give it a chance right now.
The bottom line, there really isn't really a clear cut winner...
hmm i have an atrix 4g, simunlocked from att, i had issues with wifi in my country, now that i managed to fix it and am running gingerblur, im very happy with the phone, however the case really is squeaking (back when i was in the US i had another atrix4g which i went to replace cuz the fingerprint scanner locked up occasionally, that one had perfect build quality, this one just squeaks at the top, and she cover shell is somehow too big for it...) and the locked bootloader is really annoying me, the screen is very good in my opinion. If i would be buying one of the phones now i would go with the LG i think (my main reasons: tegra2, unlocked bootloader, proper support), as to the sgs2 its too big in my opinion (seriously hwo needs a 4.3" phone, even the 4" are too big kind of - id prefer a 3.8"/3.7" like the original htc desire, but noone makes high end phones with that screen size..). Cant say much more about the sgs2, as that it doesnt have tegra2 which i prefer over other dualcore ARM based chips right now. Atrix has way better hardware specs than the LG tho: more ram, more flash, better battery, webtop, fingerprint scanner - love that one lol, the only worser spec is the camera on the atrix. so go figure For stock use the Atrix would be the best ithink
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hmm i have an atrix 4g, simunlocked from att, i had issues with wifi in my country, now that i managed to fix it
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How did you manage to fix the wifi issues?
used other drivers for the wifi, the stock ones from motorola are missing my country ROFL, retards at moto. im trying to get a UK /system dump or at least the wifi drivers to test them out.
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Thanks for all the suggestion guys.. The Quadrant benchmarks of samsung galaxy sII ended up being something like around 3500 which is the heighest till date...atrix is around 2700 i guess...any comments on this fact??
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e-penis is big enough.
why not htc hd2 .......its the better device
just kiding xD...but I have one now , just sold my atrix, I will try lg and SGS2
IF you want test...why you don't bought 2 and return to the store the phone you don't like it
I see many opnions.....and many FANS off samsung, lg and motorola
soo, if you want the opinion...ask in xda general not in motorola session....
thats probably a very good idea. I love my atrix so im going to lean towards this phone.
General might be less bias.
I have pre-ordered Galaxy S II but I am now having doubts and seriously considering cancelling the pre-order as my Galaxy S I is working fine on the leaked Gingerbread releases.
For those of you who upgraded from S I is it worth upgrading to S II? If so, why?
Please no let me Google/Bing that for you links as I have been using internet more then most people so I can quite comfortably use search engines.
I am not an owner of an s1
If you are comfortable with the s1 and you are getting what you want from it then it would be better to wait for the next best thing and make your upgrade even more worthwhile.
That is all of course if money is an issue if not then hell yeah
I have both at the moment.
I did like the sgs1 and it is still a good phone, however I absolutely dont regret upgrading. The sgs2 is just a nicer experience imo. Its screen is sharper and bigger, Its a hell of a lot faster, the browsing experience is great, camera is pretty good especialy compared to the sgs1.
I was also not sure If I should upgrade but it is worth it imo. Its also nice to have a phone which is not mistaken for an iphone 3gs.
Bare in mind I paid 250£ due to sgs1 being traded in. I wouldn't pay any more than that!
i am also thinking, but ever since trying the new cm7 i am going to pass for now. the sgs1 is very fast now.
there is not enough support for sgs2 yet. wait a while and see where the good developers are heading.
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I used to have an SGS1, now I have the SGS2 and couldn't be happier. For me, at least, I wanted the GS1 to be a little faster, have a front facing camera (I had the Captivate), and a larger screen (4.3in was what I was hoping for). It's like Samsung heard my cries and gave me the exact phone I was looking for.
Personally, I think it's worth the upgrade, but it's all about what you want to get out of the phone. If you're using casually using it, don't need a front facing camera, and feel that the GS1 fills all your needs then by all means stick with the GS1 and wait for the GS3. For me it was worth the upgrade.
SGS2 is the best phone at the moment.
I had SGS1 and Nexus S. Didn't like SGS1. Nexus S was just ok. SGS2 is amazingly fast and bugfree.
i still use my sgs more than the sgs 2
for a few reasons
no extra batteries so i can't have a charged one in my pocket
better sound with voodo on the sgs 1
much better battery life using the sgs 1 with speedmod kernel and 2.2.1 firmware.. i get about 3 days out my batteries
gps is also better on my sgs 1 since i cannot get into gps menus to tweak thinks and accuracy is much lower/better on the sgs 1 and it locks within 10 secs, vs. up to a minute average on the sgs 2.
the speed and display on the sgs 2 is better. and i think eventually i will us it daily to surpass my sgs 1.. the camera is much better the flash is great, and it is great to be able to have a flashlight app to use the flash as a light.
but for now i find myself taking the sgs 1 to work and playing and tweaking the sgs ii in the evenings/weekends.
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i still use my sgs more than the sgs 2
for a few reasons
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Thanks for detailed comparison. I guess I need to compare myself to make final decision.
ugh man.. this phone is unstoppable, 20 dolphin mini tabs playing megavideo at the same time. not even the slightest hiccup, spam pinch zoom, and its as smooth as pinching a picture in the gallery, and thats with all 20 tabs. I'm not exaggerating.
camera is better than the omnia hd, apps install in under a second. and the led is roughly 80 lumens, brightest led on any phone, makes for a great touch! pixel density is better than s1, gps finally fixed.. sigh Im watching the last episode of the office.. and it's so sad.. k don't wanna type anymore.. just get it..
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Just sold my SGS 1 sad to see it go perfect for me and with a custom rom even better .
SGS2 better yes but its not a big better its just smoother + bigger .
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OK, so I have the SG2 for 2 weeks. Great phone....but the Droid Razr is looking sweet. I know i'm on a SG2 forum, but figure I ask opinions anyway. Anyone jumping ship to go to the Razr. Thoughts/opinions???
-David
Touchwiz is actually ok now.
You have to ask yourself, can I tolerate Motobla?
Imo Samsung makes better hardware.
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OK, so I have the SG2 for 2 weeks. Great phone....but the Droid Razr is looking sweet. I know i'm on a SG2 forum, but figure I ask opinions anyway. Anyone jumping ship to go to the Razr. Thoughts/opinions???
-David
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Stick to the S II. there will be more de support for roms and tweaks than the razr I think.
SII.
All the way.
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Not only that but if i remember correctly you can not swap battery like the iphone.
Yeah, they're even saying that the qHD Amoled screen doesn't even look as good as our SuperAmoled+ screens. You have to deal with a pentile matrix touch screen which makes it look like crap. And trust me when I say moto is slow about fixing problems and bringing out updates. We will have ICS soon, and hopefully NFC support, so just hold on to the SGS2.
Well, I could probably offer a bit more insight than most since I am coming from an atrix.
The first thing I would say is it all depends on preference. Motoblur is horrible, I loathe it with every fiber of my being. That is the very definition of bloatware. qhd is pointless thanks to the pentile matrix. I got the atrix at launch and noticed how everything looked grainy and some colors were off (yellow looks more like a mustard) before I came across what pentile was. However, there are people that aren't bothered by pentile at all. It really depends on whether that is something that you will even notice.
The phone was also very buggy and moto does take its time fixing issues. Don't get me wrong, none of the bugs were deal breakers... except for the muffled call quality that never got fixed.
It's also hard to say what the camera will be like on the razr, if it's anything like the atrix... RUN FAR AWAY! Dull colors, grainy photos, lack of detail, and so on.
If the razr had a qhd Super AMOLED + display then I would easily say that the display is better than the galaxy S2, but having compare the qhd display on my atrix to the s2... I'd have to say the s2 display is far far better.
The s2 is a great phone and I can honestly say I am very happy with it and I haven't been pleased with a phone since the launch of the iphone 3g.
I came from the atrix. The GS2 is 100% better phone. I would never get another Motorola phone. I even had the laptop dock and other crap for the atrix. Dont get the moto. Plus there will be little to no develoment done on it.
Motorola = locked bootloader = run away
Moto was great, back when all phones were pretty much the same. Nowadays, really not so much. Definitely agree that Sammy > HTC > Moto when it comes to hardware these days.
I currently have the AT&T Captivate and I have the chance to get a new AT&T phone. When I bought the Captivate it was my first Android phone and pretty amazing compared to my AT&T Fuze and before that my AT&T wizard. I just want to see if SGS2 will be what the Captivate wasn't. GPS sucked, no front facing camera, lack of OS updates but everything else seemed comfortable and fast to me. I just found a perfect battery life ROM for my captivate and if I buy this phone today I just want to make sure it will impress me more than the Captivate. I also want your opinions on your switch from the predecessor and why you stuck with another Samsung phone? (which I don't mind cause of the amazing community here)
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I currently have the AT&T Captivate and I have the chance to get a new AT&T phone. When I bought the Captivate it was my first Android phone and pretty amazing compared to my AT&T Fuze and before that my AT&T wizard. I just want to see if SGS2 will be what the Captivate wasn't. GPS sucked, no front facing camera, lack of OS updates but everything else seemed comfortable and fast to me. I just found a perfect battery life ROM for my captivate and if I buy this phone today I just want to make sure it will impress me more than the Captivate. I also want your opinions on your switch from the predecessor and why you stuck with another Samsung phone? (which I don't mind cause of the amazing community here)
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I switched from the Infuse.
1) GPS - the Infuse was a significant improvement over the Cappy, and so far, the GS2 seems to be a massive improvement over the Infuse
2) FFC - just like the Infuse, we have it. That's about all I can say
3) Lack of OS updates - get used to this on AT&T - but just like the Cappy (and unlike the Infuse), the deltas from the international variant are small enough that this doesn't really matter.
Reasons I stuck with Samsung, including paying full outright purchase price:
1) Samsung's clear developer support policies - device donations to Cyanogenmod, they even donated an Infuse to supercurio for Voodoo work, source code dropping BEFORE device release
2) Samsung ease of development - Samsungs are really damn hard to brick and easy to flash
3) sAMOLED+
I too had a Captivate. Coming from a Tilt/E71/N97 Mini, it was amazing. It had gotten sluggish, but I wasn't planning on re-setting it back to stock or flashing another rom on it until my year was up (I was rooted). When I first got it I really thought it would do me for a couple of years. The more I read about the SGS2 though, the better it sounded. So I caved.
I bought one the day they were released and haven't regretted it at all. It makes the Captivate seem like it's slogging through molasses in January. Everything is instantaneous, the GPS gets a lock inside my house within a matter of seconds, the battery life is greatly improved, etc. Oh, as a plus, it also seems to pick up signal where no other phone has before - actually, that's a HUGE plus for me.
If you know of anyone with an SGS2, it might pay for you to at least mess with it a bit so you can see for yourself "in the real world".
I'm now ready to use the Captivate to flash roms and experiment (yay), then when my 30 days is up, I'll root the SGS2 and see from there.
I recommend the SGS2, but as usual, ymmv.
as Entropy said (which is pretty much hitting the "nail on the head"), samsung devices are hard to brick, easy to modify and they've supported independent developers, which is cool in my book.
I got my SGS2 from Radio Shack for 179.99 upgrade contract. Coming from Captivate running Pinnacle with Samurai kernel, I would say it is barely worth the 180$ (80 of those being for the front facing camera and a flash , another 20 for the GPS).
What about the amazing 8mp camera compared to the cappy the sgs2 is an amazingly huge improvement. And of course the crazy out of the box speed its like besides removing bloatware you don't need any other ROM to make it fast...
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I got my SGS2 from Radio Shack for 179.99 upgrade contract. Coming from Captivate running Pinnacle with Samurai kernel, I would say it is barely worth the 180$ (80 of those being for the front facing camera and a flash , another 20 for the GPS).
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"Barely"!?
I came from the captivate (made a short stop at the Thrill on my way) and could literally not be more impressed with this phone.
Its amazing, its got the dev support, its thin, its light, its bigger screen, bettery battery life, FFC, flash, tons of RAM, plenty horsepower. I cannot start enough Apps to bog this phone down, I have never seen it lag or hesitate.
With the Galaxy Nexus exclusivity confirmed (phandroid) on Verizon, if you want a high end android phone on AT&T, you only have one choice. If you want mid-range phone with decent specs, and no dev support give Thrill or Atrix 2 a try for half the price. I have no doubt that the GS II is worth the upgrade, especially if you can sell your captivate to pay for it.
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pupochek said:
I got my SGS2 from Radio Shack for 179.99 upgrade contract. Coming from Captivate running Pinnacle with Samurai kernel, I would say it is barely worth the 180$ (80 of those being for the front facing camera and a flash , another 20 for the GPS).
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That is one thing that kills me though, the price. It might be worth it to me though. I actually miss using GPS with me and my brother battling on Foursquare, and now that my family uses their front facing camera on their iphone 4's to talk I can actually put it to a lot of use. ( I feel kinda left out with the cappy haha.)
pupochek said:
I got my SGS2 from Radio Shack for 179.99 upgrade contract. Coming from Captivate running Pinnacle with Samurai kernel, I would say it is barely worth the 180$ (80 of those being for the front facing camera and a flash , another 20 for the GPS).
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HATERS GONNA HATE...give me a break the captivate ain't even on the same playing field as this phone PERIOD. Loved my Captivate but this statement is plain nuts.
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I have no doubt that the GS II is worth the upgrade, especially if you can sell your captivate to pay for it.
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haha If I didn't put my cappy through hell in my pocket (no scratches on the screen though!) I hope I still can get a decent price for it.
quarlow said:
"Barely"!?
I came from the captivate (made a short stop at the Thrill on my way) and could literally not be more impressed with this phone.
Its amazing, its got the dev support, its thin, its light, its bigger screen, bettery battery life, FFC, flash, tons of RAM, plenty horsepower. I cannot start enough Apps to bog this phone down, I have never seen it lag or hesitate.
With the Galaxy Nexus exclusivity confirmed (phandroid) on Verizon, if you want a high end android phone on AT&T, you only have one choice. If you want mid-range phone with decent specs, and no dev support give Thrill or Atrix 2 a try for half the price. I have no doubt that the GS II is worth the upgrade, especially if you can sell your captivate to pay for it.
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Well, I got the Captivate as a free upgrade, coming from HTC Aria (which was also free), so my upgrades are gradual in terms of phone quality. When I said barely, that's what I meant - paying actual money for SGS2
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bykr_dude15 said:
What about the amazing 8mp camera compared to the cappy the sgs2 is an amazingly huge improvement. And of course the crazy out of the box speed its like besides removing bloatware you don't need any other ROM to make it fast...
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I use a DSLR for photography, and megapixels are not a selling point for me.
Speed out of the box is great, that's true, but again, I was coming from a speedy smooth running custom kernel/rom on the Captivate...
I also came from Cappy and tried almost every iteration of roms then stuck with CM7. I had two cappys (3 if you include my wife's) a d I sold MY second cappy for $160, went down to a Walmart store and got the SGS2 for $148.88 and something like $164 after tax. So basically it was free for me and I still have my cappy as a backup even though I haven't needed it. This seems a lot more stable and harder to even softbrick than the cappy. So YES it is worth every penny.
I Love my cappy but it really doesn't compare to the SGS2. Besides all the difference you already mentioned this thing even at stock performs VERY WELL. This phone is guaranteed the next generation of OS (ICE CREAM SANDWICH). It has the same dev support as the captivate. It is a very fast and I THINK still the fastest phone in the market. You CANNOT go wrong with it. I could reiterate the OTHER pluses but they have been covered above. Just pull the trigger and you wont look back.
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Well I finally gave in and bought one. So far I love it!
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I currently have the AT&T Captivate and I have the chance to get a new AT&T phone. When I bought the Captivate it was my first Android phone and pretty amazing compared to my AT&T Fuze and before that my AT&T wizard. I just want to see if SGS2 will be what the Captivate wasn't. GPS sucked, no front facing camera, lack of OS updates but everything else seemed comfortable and fast to me. I just found a perfect battery life ROM for my captivate and if I buy this phone today I just want to make sure it will impress me more than the Captivate. I also want your opinions on your switch from the predecessor and why you stuck with another Samsung phone? (which I don't mind cause of the amazing community here)
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I came from the Captivate. Totally worth the upgrade. GPS works, The screen is awesome. So much awesome in this phone. You can get it at WalMart for $160 on 2-year contract.
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haha If I didn't put my cappy through hell in my pocket (no scratches on the screen though!) I hope I still can get a decent price for it.
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Ha! I just updated from a Captivate because I *ran over* it the other night. Luckily, it wasn't in my pocket at the time. The Gorilla Glass is impressive. The display panel behind the glass faceplate is shattered, 100s of cracks. The faceplate itself is completely undamaged. The phone still worked, though no display. Luckily I'd left it in USB Debug so I could get all my crap off it still.
The S2 is a noticeable improvement over the Cappy. Speedier, with much less lag, a brilliant display (though I think my Cappy display had faded and gotten some burn in so the comparison my not be all that fair).
As with so many other owners, I was exasperated by the S1's GPS. I'd gotten it to work OK after lots of fiddling (changing to a larger battery and the non-conductive plastic back plate that came with it seemed to make a significant difference) but it was still marginal at best.
The Bluetooth at last can finally initiate a hands-free voice-activated call, though it's annoying it can't do that with the screen off (wondering if I can fix that with Tasker), and I'm thinking of swapping in the stock voice APK since the Samsung Vlingo thing is a bit slow... Voice response via BT has always been an Android disappointment, it's something that for all their faults, Blackberry has honed to a fine art.
I am on a Rezound and this phone is nice, but it has its share of issues(audio hiss/buzz when aux/headphones plugged in, dead pixels, overheating/freezing) & all are known issues.
I have until Friday to do an exchange with Best Buy. Was considering holding out for the Nexus but due to delay after delay I have my doubts it'll be out before Friday. That being the case, I'm seriously considering a RAZR instead.
Has it been working out well for the most part? Any issues like what I'm experiencing on this Rezound? How does the battery hold out under "heavy use"?(like if I want to watch a few movies back to back). Also, for that "fuzziness" on the text/icons, is there a filter to smooth that out?
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I am on a Rezound and this phone is nice, but it has its share of issues(audio hiss/buzz when aux/headphones plugged in, dead pixels, overheating/freezing) & all are known issues.
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I have experienced none of those issues with the RAZR. Keep in mind that under deep dark conditions with the screen at its lowest brightness setting against a black image, many units show some "smudges" or dots. If this concerns you, definitely check one out in the store ahead of time (try downloading draw! and open the app up on the lowest brightness underneath a jacket or shirt..people will probably stare..let them..haha) and judge how this effects you for yourself. I use mine as a night clock and though I can see some smudges in the middle of the night, they don't bother me.
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I have until Friday to do an exchange with Best Buy. Was considering holding out for the Nexus but due to delay after delay I have my doubts it'll be out before Friday. That being the case, I'm seriously considering a RAZR instead.
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I gave up on the Nexus myself. Lack of USB mass storage was the final nail in the coffin for me. I think the RAZR has the potential to turn out a better ICS device than the Nexus.
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Has it been working out well for the most part? Any issues like what I'm experiencing on this Rezound? How does the battery hold out under "heavy use"?(like if I want to watch a few movies back to back). Also, for that "fuzziness" on the text/icons, is there a filter to smooth that out?
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I LOVE my RAZR. Best Android phone I've owned to date. (Prev: Epic 4G, Droid 2, Nexus S, MyTouch 4G, LG G2X, Sensation 4G). Under light use, the battery literally lasts for days if you make proper use of the smart actions. Heavy use? I can't comment on video playback time, but I get about 4-5 hours of 3D gaming before running into battery trouble. There is no filter to help the pixelation around text that the Pentile screen creates, but it doesn't bother me. I find myself impressed by the deep blacks and color reproduction far more often than I do focusing on the Pentile effect, but again, you should view this in person yourself to be sure as everyone is different.
I haven't had the phone very long, only about a week, but so far no issues whatsoever with overheating or freezing at all. This wasn't the case with my OG droid or my droid 2 global.
I got this phone from someone else, so I don't have a contract and will probably switch to the droid 4 when it comes out, but won't consider the Galaxy Nexus at this point, as I can't have a plastic phone. I'm hard on my phones with keeping them in the same pocket as keys, and other items, and have broken many a plastic mounted phone just from that alone.
I do, however don't like the size of the phone overall. I find it a bit too large for me, and have had issues handling it....I'm hoping the Droid 4 has a bit smaller overall dimensions. Also I find the keyboard gives a better grip to the phone...but that's personal preference.
If you're adjusted the Rezound size, you shouldn't have an issue with this.
For screens, this screen is great. I actually was lucky and got one without the dark dots in dark light, so I can't comment on that experience, but the pentile is really almost imperceptible to me. You really have to strain your eyesight to pick up the pentile on this screen. I also agree with brianbrain on the deep blacks and color reproduction on the phone. It's a very good screen, IMO.
I've never owned an HTC phone, but have heard a few complaints similar to what you're talking about with their phones. I know Motorola is not always forthcoming with updates, and they release phones so quickly, you feel they're just out there to screw the consumer, but my experience has been completely different. I couldn't have lived without my OG droid, until the screen went out 1.8 years later, and I had my D2G that was a KILLER phone until I left in Thailand recently. The RAZR is a great addition to the Droid line, and I've had a blast with it since I got it last week.
Phone is awesome. Nothing wrong with this phone. Best phone I've had.
I'm more in live with this phone then the thunderbolt I had. Tbolt felt cheap. screen quality was lacking, and it just seemed slow. I know the rezound is different then the tbolt. But i'm leary on any HTC phone.
The razr feels very solid, very fast and the screen is great (even with the splotches in very low light). I've had battery issues with the media process. I haven't hooked my phone up to a 3.5mm input, so I can't say about any hissing. Having hooked it up to my Bose ie2, it absolutely sounds fantastic.
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I had an Incredible 2, which is kind of the oddball in the HTC lineup as it is one of their only phones that has GREAT battery life (even more ironic considering the T-bolt was so bad and the phones are so similar in hardware) I ended up getting a Razr recently because long story short Verizon was struggling to get 4G going on my tablet on their end so I said screw it and told them to send me a 4G phone.
Even coming from the Inc2, the Razr is a lot better on battery than I thought it was gonna be. Worse than the Inc2 for sure, but it has a bigger display and faster hardware. On 3G (LTE isn't in my specific city yet, but I've used it in others) I make it all day, and I work for 12 hours and use the phone moderately to heavily when I take breaks and get bored. That's acceptable for me considering no matter what I do, I'm gonna plug the phone up at night regardless. When in 4G areas, the speeds are pretty impressive and consistently good. I was averaging 20mbps down and 11-15 up in Augusta, GA.
I played around with the Rezound in the store. It's not a knock on the Rezound specifically, I have not been impressed at all by Sense 3.5. They may as well call it Sense Vista. On the Incredible 2 we have a few Sense 3.5 roms and while they're pretty, to me I can't find the will to run them as a DD because they're laggy. At the time I chalked it up as the Single core snapdragon in the Inc2 struggling to run such a big and graphic intense rom. Then I played around with the Rezound. No real difference. Both are pretty slow compared to Sense 2.1/3.0 honestly. Hopefully Sense 4.0 and ICS will change that, but I'm doubtful given HTC seems to be getting lazier with every new version of Sense.
After a week and a half with the Razr:
Screen rocks IMO
Battery life is better than expected. I go all day (12-14 hours) on one charge, using 4G (maybe 30-40 minutes of phone calls).
Phone is very fast
Width is very akward at first, but you get used to it. First few days you freak out every time you grab for it.
Smart Actions will be great once they tweak them a bit
Voice quality and signal for phone is awesome (coming from an HTC Inc)
I was really wanting a Nexus, got impatient. The battery life, voice quality, and screen on the Nexus would have to be WAY better to make me send the Razr back.
I've had just about every android phone going....nearly ;-)
Actually had the Razr(GSM) for 2 weeks,pretty much loved the phone but was just waiting on the Nexus(GSM).
Well I've had the Nexus since friday,not really impresed,was rooted and custom rommed straight away,buggy as hell.Battery life sucks and that's with GSM, LTE is gonna be even worse.
Cut a long story short,Nexus sold,Razr's coming back. Go for the Razr.
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I'm coming from the Nexus S. Like the phone so far. Motorola did a pretty good job considering I usually like stock Android.
UI doesn't feel intrusive. Motorola seems to have added a lot of useful functions. Been running ICS on the Nexus S, but don't miss it due to the RAZR's hardware.
The phone is amazingly fast. Feel like I've been wasting my time modding the Nexus S so much lately cause the RAZR blows it out of the water even with all the bloatware.
Only problem I've run into so far is blotches on the screen when it is black and the room is dark. Not as bad as some other pics I saw, but still going to try and exchange. Also found a dead pixel.
If I can get a device with a good screen, I think I will stay with the RAZR. I've only seen the Galaxy Nexus display model... possibly might exchange for it when it comes out.
Really like the form factor of the RAZR better tho. If the RAZR had a 720p screen I'd probably be able to easily ignore the Nexus.
Chelsea FC said:
I've had just about every android phone going....nearly ;-)
Actually had the Razr(GSM) for 2 weeks,pretty much loved the phone but was just waiting on the Nexus(GSM).
Well I've had the Nexus since friday,not really impresed,was rooted and custom rommed straight away,buggy as hell.Battery life sucks and that's with GSM, LTE is gonna be even worse.
Cut a long story short,Nexus sold,Razr's coming back. Go for the Razr.
How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS
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How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS [/QUOTE]
I would say the Razr is a tad better, moto is renowned for having good radios
Build quality wise there is no contest for me. Nexus is way too slippery and plasticky for my liking. Modders are already working day & night to make the nexus usable, the Razr works pretty much out of the box. 'When' ICS comes, I think it'll blow everything away.
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Chelsea FC said:
How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS
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Im getting razr tomorrow buying it outright optus network TELECHOICE (GSM AUS)
for $600 from monne ponds vic (told the guy id give him a plug)
i'll let you know how it goes in terms of battery life on GSM
as far as i know motorola's antennas are PRETTY SWEET ... so dont worry about reception.. worry about downloading lots to feed that screen with awesome multimedia and moto cast
samsungs antennas are not bad... but motorola's track record with radios is proven (from UHF RADIOS to SATs experience counts)
nexus has ics but is trolling with bugs i had a play with it ... also looks so ugly next to the razr ... only good thing is the screen .....
however that said the bugs with ics troll the phone making it laggy and you can get jerky playback
so i decided get razr with ginger (motoblur customised to be more like an unbuggy ics) then next year when things perfect the razr will get ics
anyhow thats my rant hope it helps =]
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Chelsea FC said:
How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS
I would say the Razr is a tad better, moto is renowned for having good radios
Build quality wise there is no contest for me. Nexus is way too slippery and plasticky for my liking. Modders are already working day & night to make the nexus usable, the Razr works pretty much out of the box. 'When' ICS comes, I think it'll blow everything away.
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Hard for me to compare since I'm using T-Mobile and Verizon right now. T-Mobile's reception isn't too great in my area, so that's a main reason for me switching.
So far the reception on my RAZR has been great. Blows my Nexus out of the water in that respect, but not sure how much of that is attributed to the phone itself.
Definitely want to keep this phone... just wish the screen problems didn't exist.
google and motorola
apparently motorola will have more say with ics and customisations seeing as google acquired some share/part of motorola which comes in handy .. for razr and future moto users =D
maybe stuff pushed to us sooner ?
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apparently motorola will have more say with ics and customisations seeing as google acquired some share/part of motorola which comes in handy .. for razr and future moto users =D
maybe stuff pushed to us sooner ?
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Got a friend who works over at Moto mobility. He was one of the lead design heads on the Xoom & Droid 4.
The Google acquisition isn't going to truly affect platform builds and blur reductions till late 2H 2012.
They are still working out details on who and what is going where, and how programmers are going to be moved and cut. There's also the small thing of full FCC approval which still hasn't happened as well as EU approvals, which are needed for this (for more info, check out the WSJ article that came out yesterday on the subject). That should be completed by about Feb/March according to him, and then we'll really see some interesting movements. Right now everything is in stasis as far as building and coding are concerned.
So I wouldn't expect any increases in update frequency for a while, and I definitely wouldn't count on Android becoming less bloated on new moto phones for a while to say the least.
There's also been a lot of talk in his office about how Google may not put anything in place, because it could affect their relationship and promises to other handset makers, if they start tweeking with Moto's team a whole bunch.
I'll release info as I get it from him.....although he's interviewing with the automotive division of Moto, as he's not all that satisfied with the position at mobility. They have HEAVY requirements and deadlines, that he seems to think are totally unrealistic....but hey...how many people are really happy with all aspects of their job??
I wonder if the screen issue has been resolved (or even exists) in the GSM versions out there right now. Thinking of getting the Razr but am holding back due to development and the screen issue... Can someone give me an answer about this?
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Was considering holding out for the Nexus
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With a release date of tomorrow, you don't have long to wait on the Nexus, better be at BB early to make sure you get one.
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I just bought the new Droid Rzr today. It seems pretty fast and awesome, however , when I am connected to WIFI, and try to browse in the market, it acts like theres no connectivity. I can browse the web pretty fast when this problem is occuring, then when I disable the WIFI it works. Ive worked for Comcast for five years and I have lots of experience dealing with this kind of stuff, so I know its not the router. Anyone else having this issue?
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I just bought the new Droid Rzr today. It seems pretty fast and awesome, however , when I am connected to WIFI, and try to browse in the market, it acts like theres no connectivity. I can browse the web pretty fast when this problem is occuring, then when I disable the WIFI it works. Ive worked for Comcast for five years and I have lots of experience dealing with this kind of stuff, so I know its not the router. Anyone else having this issue?
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I kinda have the same issue with you. I think it could be my router because out of the 3 routers that I have tried, only 1 is experiencing this problem. And only with the Razr that this happens. Something to do with the router and the phone settings? Anyone knows what might be the problem?
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I am on a Rezound and this phone is nice, but it has its share of issues(audio hiss/buzz when aux/headphones plugged in, dead pixels, overheating/freezing) & all are known issues.
I have until Friday to do an exchange with Best Buy. Was considering holding out for the Nexus but due to delay after delay I have my doubts it'll be out before Friday. That being the case, I'm seriously considering a RAZR instead.
Has it been working out well for the most part? Any issues like what I'm experiencing on this Rezound? How does the battery hold out under "heavy use"?(like if I want to watch a few movies back to back). Also, for that "fuzziness" on the text/icons, is there a filter to smooth that out?
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Read my Thread "Galaxy Nexus" I in general (razr) I just got word I'll have my press sample tomorrow so they are going to release after all. They should be at Best Buy tomorrow as well.