I currently have the AT&T Captivate and I have the chance to get a new AT&T phone. When I bought the Captivate it was my first Android phone and pretty amazing compared to my AT&T Fuze and before that my AT&T wizard. I just want to see if SGS2 will be what the Captivate wasn't. GPS sucked, no front facing camera, lack of OS updates but everything else seemed comfortable and fast to me. I just found a perfect battery life ROM for my captivate and if I buy this phone today I just want to make sure it will impress me more than the Captivate. I also want your opinions on your switch from the predecessor and why you stuck with another Samsung phone? (which I don't mind cause of the amazing community here)
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I currently have the AT&T Captivate and I have the chance to get a new AT&T phone. When I bought the Captivate it was my first Android phone and pretty amazing compared to my AT&T Fuze and before that my AT&T wizard. I just want to see if SGS2 will be what the Captivate wasn't. GPS sucked, no front facing camera, lack of OS updates but everything else seemed comfortable and fast to me. I just found a perfect battery life ROM for my captivate and if I buy this phone today I just want to make sure it will impress me more than the Captivate. I also want your opinions on your switch from the predecessor and why you stuck with another Samsung phone? (which I don't mind cause of the amazing community here)
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I switched from the Infuse.
1) GPS - the Infuse was a significant improvement over the Cappy, and so far, the GS2 seems to be a massive improvement over the Infuse
2) FFC - just like the Infuse, we have it. That's about all I can say
3) Lack of OS updates - get used to this on AT&T - but just like the Cappy (and unlike the Infuse), the deltas from the international variant are small enough that this doesn't really matter.
Reasons I stuck with Samsung, including paying full outright purchase price:
1) Samsung's clear developer support policies - device donations to Cyanogenmod, they even donated an Infuse to supercurio for Voodoo work, source code dropping BEFORE device release
2) Samsung ease of development - Samsungs are really damn hard to brick and easy to flash
3) sAMOLED+
I too had a Captivate. Coming from a Tilt/E71/N97 Mini, it was amazing. It had gotten sluggish, but I wasn't planning on re-setting it back to stock or flashing another rom on it until my year was up (I was rooted). When I first got it I really thought it would do me for a couple of years. The more I read about the SGS2 though, the better it sounded. So I caved.
I bought one the day they were released and haven't regretted it at all. It makes the Captivate seem like it's slogging through molasses in January. Everything is instantaneous, the GPS gets a lock inside my house within a matter of seconds, the battery life is greatly improved, etc. Oh, as a plus, it also seems to pick up signal where no other phone has before - actually, that's a HUGE plus for me.
If you know of anyone with an SGS2, it might pay for you to at least mess with it a bit so you can see for yourself "in the real world".
I'm now ready to use the Captivate to flash roms and experiment (yay), then when my 30 days is up, I'll root the SGS2 and see from there.
I recommend the SGS2, but as usual, ymmv.
as Entropy said (which is pretty much hitting the "nail on the head"), samsung devices are hard to brick, easy to modify and they've supported independent developers, which is cool in my book.
I got my SGS2 from Radio Shack for 179.99 upgrade contract. Coming from Captivate running Pinnacle with Samurai kernel, I would say it is barely worth the 180$ (80 of those being for the front facing camera and a flash , another 20 for the GPS).
What about the amazing 8mp camera compared to the cappy the sgs2 is an amazingly huge improvement. And of course the crazy out of the box speed its like besides removing bloatware you don't need any other ROM to make it fast...
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I got my SGS2 from Radio Shack for 179.99 upgrade contract. Coming from Captivate running Pinnacle with Samurai kernel, I would say it is barely worth the 180$ (80 of those being for the front facing camera and a flash , another 20 for the GPS).
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"Barely"!?
I came from the captivate (made a short stop at the Thrill on my way) and could literally not be more impressed with this phone.
Its amazing, its got the dev support, its thin, its light, its bigger screen, bettery battery life, FFC, flash, tons of RAM, plenty horsepower. I cannot start enough Apps to bog this phone down, I have never seen it lag or hesitate.
With the Galaxy Nexus exclusivity confirmed (phandroid) on Verizon, if you want a high end android phone on AT&T, you only have one choice. If you want mid-range phone with decent specs, and no dev support give Thrill or Atrix 2 a try for half the price. I have no doubt that the GS II is worth the upgrade, especially if you can sell your captivate to pay for it.
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pupochek said:
I got my SGS2 from Radio Shack for 179.99 upgrade contract. Coming from Captivate running Pinnacle with Samurai kernel, I would say it is barely worth the 180$ (80 of those being for the front facing camera and a flash , another 20 for the GPS).
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That is one thing that kills me though, the price. It might be worth it to me though. I actually miss using GPS with me and my brother battling on Foursquare, and now that my family uses their front facing camera on their iphone 4's to talk I can actually put it to a lot of use. ( I feel kinda left out with the cappy haha.)
pupochek said:
I got my SGS2 from Radio Shack for 179.99 upgrade contract. Coming from Captivate running Pinnacle with Samurai kernel, I would say it is barely worth the 180$ (80 of those being for the front facing camera and a flash , another 20 for the GPS).
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HATERS GONNA HATE...give me a break the captivate ain't even on the same playing field as this phone PERIOD. Loved my Captivate but this statement is plain nuts.
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I have no doubt that the GS II is worth the upgrade, especially if you can sell your captivate to pay for it.
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haha If I didn't put my cappy through hell in my pocket (no scratches on the screen though!) I hope I still can get a decent price for it.
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"Barely"!?
I came from the captivate (made a short stop at the Thrill on my way) and could literally not be more impressed with this phone.
Its amazing, its got the dev support, its thin, its light, its bigger screen, bettery battery life, FFC, flash, tons of RAM, plenty horsepower. I cannot start enough Apps to bog this phone down, I have never seen it lag or hesitate.
With the Galaxy Nexus exclusivity confirmed (phandroid) on Verizon, if you want a high end android phone on AT&T, you only have one choice. If you want mid-range phone with decent specs, and no dev support give Thrill or Atrix 2 a try for half the price. I have no doubt that the GS II is worth the upgrade, especially if you can sell your captivate to pay for it.
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Well, I got the Captivate as a free upgrade, coming from HTC Aria (which was also free), so my upgrades are gradual in terms of phone quality. When I said barely, that's what I meant - paying actual money for SGS2
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What about the amazing 8mp camera compared to the cappy the sgs2 is an amazingly huge improvement. And of course the crazy out of the box speed its like besides removing bloatware you don't need any other ROM to make it fast...
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I use a DSLR for photography, and megapixels are not a selling point for me.
Speed out of the box is great, that's true, but again, I was coming from a speedy smooth running custom kernel/rom on the Captivate...
I also came from Cappy and tried almost every iteration of roms then stuck with CM7. I had two cappys (3 if you include my wife's) a d I sold MY second cappy for $160, went down to a Walmart store and got the SGS2 for $148.88 and something like $164 after tax. So basically it was free for me and I still have my cappy as a backup even though I haven't needed it. This seems a lot more stable and harder to even softbrick than the cappy. So YES it is worth every penny.
I Love my cappy but it really doesn't compare to the SGS2. Besides all the difference you already mentioned this thing even at stock performs VERY WELL. This phone is guaranteed the next generation of OS (ICE CREAM SANDWICH). It has the same dev support as the captivate. It is a very fast and I THINK still the fastest phone in the market. You CANNOT go wrong with it. I could reiterate the OTHER pluses but they have been covered above. Just pull the trigger and you wont look back.
Sent From My KICKASS CM7 AT&T SGS2
Well I finally gave in and bought one. So far I love it!
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BlakDye said:
I currently have the AT&T Captivate and I have the chance to get a new AT&T phone. When I bought the Captivate it was my first Android phone and pretty amazing compared to my AT&T Fuze and before that my AT&T wizard. I just want to see if SGS2 will be what the Captivate wasn't. GPS sucked, no front facing camera, lack of OS updates but everything else seemed comfortable and fast to me. I just found a perfect battery life ROM for my captivate and if I buy this phone today I just want to make sure it will impress me more than the Captivate. I also want your opinions on your switch from the predecessor and why you stuck with another Samsung phone? (which I don't mind cause of the amazing community here)
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I came from the Captivate. Totally worth the upgrade. GPS works, The screen is awesome. So much awesome in this phone. You can get it at WalMart for $160 on 2-year contract.
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haha If I didn't put my cappy through hell in my pocket (no scratches on the screen though!) I hope I still can get a decent price for it.
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Ha! I just updated from a Captivate because I *ran over* it the other night. Luckily, it wasn't in my pocket at the time. The Gorilla Glass is impressive. The display panel behind the glass faceplate is shattered, 100s of cracks. The faceplate itself is completely undamaged. The phone still worked, though no display. Luckily I'd left it in USB Debug so I could get all my crap off it still.
The S2 is a noticeable improvement over the Cappy. Speedier, with much less lag, a brilliant display (though I think my Cappy display had faded and gotten some burn in so the comparison my not be all that fair).
As with so many other owners, I was exasperated by the S1's GPS. I'd gotten it to work OK after lots of fiddling (changing to a larger battery and the non-conductive plastic back plate that came with it seemed to make a significant difference) but it was still marginal at best.
The Bluetooth at last can finally initiate a hands-free voice-activated call, though it's annoying it can't do that with the screen off (wondering if I can fix that with Tasker), and I'm thinking of swapping in the stock voice APK since the Samsung Vlingo thing is a bit slow... Voice response via BT has always been an Android disappointment, it's something that for all their faults, Blackberry has honed to a fine art.
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i was willing to buy the Atrix 4g for its dualcore beast and right now we hav 3 of that kind. Can anybody suggest the best one out of the Three???
SGS 2. 'nuff said.
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for $800 it better wipe your a$$.
-i have heard disappointing reviews on the camera, wifi, touchwiz, build quality, samsung updates(though motorola is bad with bell users).
-i wouldnt buy an LG as they have no solid track record and too many complaints to list
-atrix has its fair share of problems primarily the bootloader and camera isnt the greatest.
Anyone else kinda disappointed by this new generation of dual cores as a whole?
Nope i love my sg2 much more than my atrix!
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if i could atleast have it in my hand and it was $150 or more less I would definitely consider it.
Having both devices, what are the benefits of sgs2? Be as unbiased as possible please.
where did u buy the S2?
People harp on about the SG2 being all plasticy, but compared to the atrix it feels much more solid. the case shell on the atrix creaks whenever i hold it, whether that be age 'wear and tear' or what not.
i find the camera to be much better than the atrix
the screen is much better on the SG2 but thats personal choice
i do miss quirky features such as the fingerprint reader and webtop but thats about it. Everything else the SG2 does the same if not better. Even in stock form, no mods comparing the two it becomes much greater. as gingerblur fixed alot of problems (motoblur!)
saying that, the Atrix is still the 2nd best device i had!
my 2 cents
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where did u buy the S2?
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handtec, got it sent from UK to AUS in 4 days!
Sorry. but f**k the Galaxy S II! The Galaxy S I9000 was soooooooo much better. From what ive heard, the Optimus 2X has really good build quality. But yeah they have a terrible track record, usually they make products with crappy quality. The Atrix is sweet but the locked bootloader and the fact that we have to wait for Motorola for updates; that drags it down.
1) Moto Atrix
2) LG Optimus 2X
3) Galaxy S II
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Sorry. but f**k the Galaxy S II! The Galaxy S I9000 was soooooooo much better. From what ive heard, the Optimus 2X has really good build quality. But yeah they have a terrible track record, usually they make products with crappy quality. The Atrix is sweet but the locked bootloader and the fact that we have to wait for Motorola for updates; that drags it down.
1) Moto Atrix
2) LG Optimus 2X
3) Galaxy S II
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So guys....I just want a nice cellphone. I don't care for root and stuff. So, I guess the atrix will be fine for me right?
Do the G2x and S2 have been unlocked yet?
ty vm and sry about my english, Im trying to improve
If you want the best everyday phone I would buy the atrix battery last a day or more!
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LOL @ the guy who said the phone creaks in his hand. that is such utter LIES.
In any case, Samsung has a pretty horrible track record with the i9000 quality. Just look up i9000m internal SD on google and have fun sorting through that mess.. A phone that just auto nukes its internal SD whenever it wants.
As for the Atrix it has IMO an amazing screen (which you can use at full brightness) at little penatly on the giant battery.
If you wanna save battery and use juice defender the max I have gotten out of it before dying is 56 hours.... on a single charge.
So yeah.
Thanks for all the suggestion guys.. The Quadrant benchmarks of samsung galaxy sII ended up being something like around 3500 which is the heighest till date...atrix is around 2700 i guess...any comments on this fact??
Things aren't perfect with the SG2 there's the:
1. Heat dissipation issues were people are already returning their phones just for that alone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068663
2. WiFi Issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1067473
3. (Much More Than Normal) "Dead Pixel" Screens
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065935
4. Lack of Notification LED - (most knew about this already)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058596
I'm not going to say which phone is better since they All 3 phones have their issues, but it's also interesting to watch people dropping $750-$1000 already thinking the SG2 will be the perfect device. (yes there's no perfect device blah blah blah...)
Anywhoo... For the record, I'm not totally trilled with the Atrix at this moment either. I've also thought about switching to the SG2 already myself, but IMO it's too high of a price tag to give it a chance right now.
The bottom line, there really isn't really a clear cut winner...
hmm i have an atrix 4g, simunlocked from att, i had issues with wifi in my country, now that i managed to fix it and am running gingerblur, im very happy with the phone, however the case really is squeaking (back when i was in the US i had another atrix4g which i went to replace cuz the fingerprint scanner locked up occasionally, that one had perfect build quality, this one just squeaks at the top, and she cover shell is somehow too big for it...) and the locked bootloader is really annoying me, the screen is very good in my opinion. If i would be buying one of the phones now i would go with the LG i think (my main reasons: tegra2, unlocked bootloader, proper support), as to the sgs2 its too big in my opinion (seriously hwo needs a 4.3" phone, even the 4" are too big kind of - id prefer a 3.8"/3.7" like the original htc desire, but noone makes high end phones with that screen size..). Cant say much more about the sgs2, as that it doesnt have tegra2 which i prefer over other dualcore ARM based chips right now. Atrix has way better hardware specs than the LG tho: more ram, more flash, better battery, webtop, fingerprint scanner - love that one lol, the only worser spec is the camera on the atrix. so go figure For stock use the Atrix would be the best ithink
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hmm i have an atrix 4g, simunlocked from att, i had issues with wifi in my country, now that i managed to fix it
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How did you manage to fix the wifi issues?
used other drivers for the wifi, the stock ones from motorola are missing my country ROFL, retards at moto. im trying to get a UK /system dump or at least the wifi drivers to test them out.
temp91 said:
Thanks for all the suggestion guys.. The Quadrant benchmarks of samsung galaxy sII ended up being something like around 3500 which is the heighest till date...atrix is around 2700 i guess...any comments on this fact??
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e-penis is big enough.
why not htc hd2 .......its the better device
just kiding xD...but I have one now , just sold my atrix, I will try lg and SGS2
IF you want test...why you don't bought 2 and return to the store the phone you don't like it
I see many opnions.....and many FANS off samsung, lg and motorola
soo, if you want the opinion...ask in xda general not in motorola session....
thats probably a very good idea. I love my atrix so im going to lean towards this phone.
General might be less bias.
im thinking about buying this phone, i dont want to spend alot of money on smartphone and the atrix is pretty cheap for what he gives.
the motorola atrix worth buying?
he have any common problems?
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Mine was pretty cheap, I got it for my birthday in october. I love it. The only common problem would be random reboots/sleep of deaths. There have been some "fixes" that work for people if you look around, but there are a fair amount of users who have had random reboot issues or sleep of death issues, including me. But I've managed to fix mine so I love love love the Atrix.
atrix 4g
For a cheap phone it is really good. My only complaint is the 5mp camera. To get its full potential you have to unlock the bootloader, root and install a custom rom. All the info can be found in the development section of this forum. Turls team cm7 is rock steady. I have just updated to jokersax11's cm9 and now the phone is awesome, the only thing missing is the camera does not work in this rom.
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Were having alpha ver. of IceCream Sandwich (CM9) ... there are better phones around atm but if you think Atrix fits you then I would say its not a bad choice.
You can still buy it because it is very nice.
I bought my atrix 2 weeks ago in germany and i can't complain. Ok actually the atrix wasn't my first choice but the price of the nexus s become very high in germany so i decided to get the atrix.
And it is still a very fast phone with a nice battery and the most important fact for me is that it only has a 4" display because I have small hands and a bigger display would be to big for me.
I am happy and i saved more than 100€ compared to other high end phones like the galaxy s II or galaxy nexus.
I vote to Buy.
If you plan on modding I'm sure your are.. Your here after all. I would buy one for 250 or less. I really like mine. There are so many roms to try now. It seems even though some phones are better this phone is really well supported by a big community. Breathing more life into a phone and taking it beyound its time. Im using the SuperOSr Rom and I really enjoy it tried maybe 6 or so others.
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Forgot to say the atrix has been a really reliable phone considering the amount if soft bricked it doing software flashes unsafely. I didn't know any better at the time. Not buggy like all my blackberries Ive had.
I think it is worth buying this phone, it's a lot cheaper then say a galaxy s2 and the galaxy is just a tad more powerfull, also there are some great custom roms and even a few (I think 3) ICS roms on the way!
Dont buy the atrix, buy a sensation a sgs2 or a o2x.
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Lol o2x is almost the same but less ram no webtop no finger print scanner and costs more.
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I am thinking about buying an Atrix and would like some input too.
Requirements are:
1. 4" Screen
2. Good battery life
3. ATT 3G Bands
4. Less that $400 on unlocked market
The phones I considered were the SE Arc, LG Optimus 2X, and Atrix 4G. Yes, I would love to own a Galaxy or Nexus phone but it is outside my price range. The Optimus 2X fell out because I cannot get it in ATT USA bands. So its the Arc vs the Atrix. Or did I miss another option?
yes - no problems
yes, it's worth it. I've had no problems with mine, the build quality is excellent on my device.
The 5mg camera is the only marginally disappointing thing but that alone would not tempt me to swap it for a SGSII.
good luck
K
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yes, it's worth it. I've had no problems with mine, the build quality is excellent on my device.
The 5mg camera is the only marginally disappointing thing but that alone would not tempt me to swap it for a SGSII.
good luck
K
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How about the Atrix vs Nexus S?
Nexus S pluses: AMOLED, Better Camera, Better Battery life, NFC, Offical upgrade to ICS
Atrix pluses: Expandable Memory, HDMI, Faster CPU, FP Reader, 3.5G
Tough call.
You'll get what you pay for, imo. Best way to compare real market value is check ebay (BNIB on auction).
I'm sure ill be on gingerbread when similar phones will be on some next version of ics, not to mention that I got gingerbread after 6 months of purchase. I will never buy motorola android phone again, but that is just my personal experience.
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You'll get what you pay for, imo. Best way to compare real market value is check ebay (BNIB on auction).
I'm sure ill be on gingerbread when similar phones will be on some next version of ics, not to mention that I got gingerbread after 6 months of purchase. I will never buy motorola android phone again, but that is just my personal experience.
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I can't blame you either. I have always been a Motorola fan from the ROKR (not RAZR) line (anyone remember the Apple collaboration with Moto?) and I owned an E2. But I think it is poor on Motorola's part that the Defy is stuck on Froyo, while the pratically identical Defy+ got Gingerbread on launch. Motorola seems to be keeping certain brands going (Milestone/Droid, Defy, Atrix) so the should keep them updated as far as they can physically go.
Battery and ICS might sway me into getting the Nexus S but I do love the more powerful Atrix.
It's a great phone but the camera really kills it, other than that it's awesome.
I personally love my Atrix. The camera is a slight bit disappointing but it definitely makes it up with versatility and functionality. Just my opinion
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i choosed phone for about 1 year. because haven't more money, but i want a "power" phone, which can work for about 4 years without problem with hardware. i bought Atrix 4g. this is my first android phone, but it really nice for this price.
In the end of 2011 year i choose between atrix 4g, Defy+ and nexus prime. but nexus prime have bigger display, it is thinner than atrix, but have big price.
Defy+ is wonderfull, water resist, dust resist and any more... but haven't dual core, and only 512 ram.
resume (for me):
if i have more money i bought nexus prime, but i think that ideal phone can not cost more than $ 400 must have the hardware with a view of the future (1 year minimum). Should work just fine navigating large maps (map RUSSIA really great, and requires a lot of memory the laying of complex routes). Should be easily unlockable and be able to flash the android ICS (СM9 in my case). gave me a chance to practice in programming for Android.
Atrix gives me all these opportunities. Overclocking the CPU to 1.5GHz making foundation for the future, the performance he ahead of SGS2 and is not as great. Support for memory cards - I have no problems with the backup, you can always place another increase.
so that at the moment, I suggest taking Atrix 4g. But the choice is always yours.
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[...] But I've managed to fix mine so I love love love the Atrix.
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Wow! How can you fix your SoD problem in Atrix?
I tested a lot of radios, kernels and roms without sucess. Can you tell me?
Thanks
Other than having a slight less capable camera, I love the Atrix!
Something to also note (that I love) is that it has a qHD resolution 4" display, which means it's pixel density is much higher than most of the other Android phones.
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never heard of SOD on atrix how are you getting one ... what are you using ?
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Do a little xda or google search to find a lot of SoD desperated users.
It's impossible to know what app (or kernel or rom etc) is the root cause, because many ones has many different configuration, use many differents apps etc.
My problem is more related to Data Connection, even 3G or Wifi. Every time I turn off a data connection my device get's SoD.
At now I'm testing LoadMonitor app as a SoD avoid app, and it make me happy. Let's do another test before advice them to other ones.
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Just looking for any ex infuse owners that went to the sgs2 to give me they're opinions.
Thanks
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Previous infuse owner. Get the sgs2. That is all.
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TOA Duck said:
Previous infuse owner. Get the sgs2. That is all.
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TOA Duck said:
Previous infuse owner. Get the sgs2. That is all.
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This. Infuse GPS/Wifi has nothing on ours.
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Previous infuse owner. Get the sgs2. That is all.
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Thanks for the replys so far. I know every opinion is different. But the dev dman has both and says the infuse is faster ...
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Thanks for the replys so far. I know every opinion is different. But the dev dman has both and says the infuse is faster ...
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My experience with the Infuse in web browsers was very sluggish and choppy as well as home screens that use live wallpapers. I don't do much gaming on my android so can't say how that is. It's been some time so I'm not sure if this is accurate, but the battery life didn't seem nearly as good as my GS2 running Unnamed or SHOstock.
Edit: As I no longer have the phone (returned it within a month and went back to my 3gs to hold off until I got this) I cannot say if it still performs like this. I did root, flash, etc, so it wasn't just a stock experience.
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My experience with the Infuse in web browsers was very sluggish and choppy as well as home screens that use live wallpapers. I don't do much gaming on my android so can't say how that is. It's been some time so I'm not sure if this is accurate, but the battery life didn't seem nearly as good as my GS2 running Unnamed or SHOstock.
Edit: As I no longer have the phone (returned it within a month and went back to my 3gs to hold off until I got this) I cannot say if it still performs like this. I did root, flash, etc, so it wasn't just a stock experience.
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Is your sgs2 oc or UV at all. What battery do u get. I'm 1.2 with custom rom and some uving and I get almost 2 days battery on good days otherwise a day easy.
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Thanks for the replys so far. I know every opinion is different. But the dev dman has both and says the infuse is faster ...
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I strongly disagree.
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Is your sgs2 oc or UV at all. What battery do u get. I'm 1.2 with custom rom and some uving and I get almost 2 days battery on good days otherwise a day easy.
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I'm running SHOstock with Entropy's 12/08 DD, stock battery, not sure about the clocks but I believe they're stock as well. Normally access to a charger is readily available, so I don't bother conserving it as much as some others do (I leave my screen on for 20 minutes before I notice it and turn it off). Because of this, I generally get a day and a half out of it on average.
I can easily go 2 days without a charge if need be, I'd just turn the screen timeout back on to around 2 minutes or so. A while back before tweaking I barely squeezed 2d8h out of it, but now I'd be comfortable going 3 days if I really had to.
Edit: I also keep my bluetooth on, GPS on, and wifi off, data connection stays on and I generally get 2 to 3 bars out here. I have two Google accounts syncing everything except for Picasa. I also use Llama that does cell tower polling (among other things) to automatically change profiles (primarily for volume changes).
There are lots of ex-Infuse owners here. In fact, quite a few developers here are ex-Infuse.
gtg465x was on the Infuse and came here, MikeyMike01 came here for a while but then sold off all of his newer devices and went with an old Focus, I'm here.
From a developer's point of view, the GSII blows the Infuse out of the water. From a users' point of view, the difference isn't as obvious, other than that we have proper Gingerbread and the Infuse is still stuck with half-baked derivatives of the Rogers release. (AT&T leaks have improved things somewhat - but still stuff like MHL support is missing.)
Oh yeah - GPS on the GSII is a MASSIVE improvement compared to Infuse.
Given a choice between Infuse and GS2 both with contract subsidy - GS2 is a no-brainer. If it's a question of upgrading by paying full off-contract price - not so sure if it's worth it at this point. Better to wait for something else (International GS3 maybe?) or get a GNex.
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There are lots of ex-Infuse owners here. In fact, quite a few developers here are ex-Infuse.
gtg465x was on the Infuse and came here, MikeyMike01 came here for a while but then sold off all of his newer devices and went with an old Focus, I'm here.
From a developer's point of view, the GSII blows the Infuse out of the water. From a users' point of view, the difference isn't as obvious, other than that we have proper Gingerbread and the Infuse is still stuck with half-baked derivatives of the Rogers release. (AT&T leaks have improved things somewhat - but still stuff like MHL support is missing.)
Oh yeah - GPS on the GSII is a MASSIVE improvement compared to Infuse.
Given a choice between Infuse and GS2 both with contract subsidy - GS2 is a no-brainer. If it's a question of upgrading by paying full off-contract price - not so sure if it's worth it at this point. Better to wait for something else (International GS3 maybe?) or get a GNex.
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Thx entropy I know alot of u ex infuse devs are over here now. Alot to think about. My infuse has good bat life. GPS locks kinda slow but is fine for me when connected. And speed wise my single core is just as snappy as dual I would bet. But that's just my opinion as a user and I value your input as a dev.
Thanks
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Had the infuse for two Weeks. Made a ROM and wasn't happy with performance of device... Also had Atrix. Lg thrill 3d. brought infuse back and spent the extra 100 got gs2. Gs2 is better than all my phones for developing and use.
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Screen was bigger however quality is better on the SGS2. SGS2 is way faster, GPS is also a lot better (locks faster).
Camera I think is also better.
There is no question SGS2 is THE PHONE
Guti1977 said:
Screen was bigger however quality is better on the SGS2. SGS2 is way faster, GPS is also a lot better (locks faster).
Camera I think is also better.
There is no question SGS2 is THE PHONE
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Only difference is sgs2 cam does 1080p who hoo and they are identical screens no difference in quality? And I have a dslr for pics so camera on a phone doesn't mean anything really. For still or video. Its a phone.
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For me, even if not for the improvements in development and ability to leverage the I9100 community for development - the GPS was a MAJOR factor in deciding to keep the device and ditch the Infuse. (I was on the fence and was considering returning it after a month since it was such an expenditure.)
The Infuse GPS was OK, but not good enough for me to trust it - I would NEVER have relied on it for navigation in any tough environment such as a city or even an area with good signal but densely packed roads. The I777's GPS is good enough to replace all of my standalone GPS units except for the ones I use while hiking. (In fact, my parents now have my old trusty "Dealextreme Pirate Special" GPS.)
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There are lots of ex-Infuse owners here. In fact, quite a few developers here are ex-Infuse.
gtg465x was on the Infuse and came here, MikeyMike01 came here for a while but then sold off all of his newer devices and went with an old Focus, I'm here.
From a developer's point of view, the GSII blows the Infuse out of the water. From a users' point of view, the difference isn't as obvious, other than that we have proper Gingerbread and the Infuse is still stuck with half-baked derivatives of the Rogers release. (AT&T leaks have improved things somewhat - but still stuff like MHL support is missing.)
Oh yeah - GPS on the GSII is a MASSIVE improvement compared to Infuse.
Given a choice between Infuse and GS2 both with contract subsidy - GS2 is a no-brainer. If it's a question of upgrading by paying full off-contract price - not so sure if it's worth it at this point. Better to wait for something else (International GS3 maybe?) or get a GNex.
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Another good point
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Here is my take on the S2 vs Infuse
http://www.wix.com/thephoneguyusa/att-gs2/apps/blog/infuse-4g-vs-galaxy-s2-i-777
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Here is my take on the S2 vs Infuse
http://www.wix.com/thephoneguyusa/att-gs2/apps/blog/infuse-4g-vs-galaxy-s2-i-777
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Nice write up. Decided for the sgs2 for my gf. Trading her iPhone 4(finally got her on the android wagon) . Kinda sad her first android is on paper a Beter phone than mine but I know my infuse will still hold it's own. I just wanted her to have something that's gonna have more value in the end like her iPhone which retains value. Unlike the infuse which value is only going down fast!
Thanks guys
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I have 2 of each, and besides the video playback being slightly smoother on the sgs2 I can't tell the difference. The infuse has CM7 as does the sgs2 which are both still KANGed. Maybe I can give a good comparison when they join the nightly...
Hello!
I have an opportunity to trade my Atrix in for free for a brand new SGS i777.
Would you suggest I pull the trigger? Or stick with my current bad boy?
Thanks!!
I currently have both Atrix and I777. IMHO there is no clear winner and that is the reason, I keep switching back and forth between these two. Atrix has FingerScanner which I really find useful. I777 has NFC but no support. As I said, for me there is no winner. Others here might disagree and say I777 is better.
Lol, no clear winner? Come on man. I wouldn't wait another second to pull the trigger if I was you. You are basically robbing the poor sucker who is willing to trade with you, unless there is something seriously wrong with the i777.
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Actually, my company is a corporate account with Att and we are a pretty large organization (s-oney) ... and, recently I was on an international business trip and my phone was not working well at all. Well, of course Att wants to protect their existing customer base (especially the larger accounts) and offered me a brand new replacement which is the i777 to keep me happy.. they said I don't need to upgrade my account or pay anything... Its just cause I said I will complain to our administration department who is responsible for the corporate accounts if they don't make me smile.. so this is their offer.
so, I think its a functional unit and has nothing wrong with it
Atrix vs i777
i777 has:
-A better screen
-A more powerful CPU and GPU
-Better community support
-Better cameras
-Touchwiz (an improvement to Android
Atrix has:
-Webtop
-Finder reader
-More games without rooting
-Blur (a detriment to Android)
Let's not forget Motorola's stance towards developers is even more awful than Samsung's.
Locked bootloaders for the lose.
I have had both, my Atrix was stolen so I got the SGS2 as a replacement, and I wouldn't even think of going back. It's a superior phone, period.
Okay, thanks for the input guys.. I just placed my order for a full free replacement kit. I also get free overnight shipping because "I always get subpar customer service from att"....
LOL
Thanks for all the help! My name is Alex, and I am excited to be a part of the new community.
Best regards,
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Actually, my company is a corporate account with Att and we are a pretty large organization (s-oney) ... and, recently I was on an international business trip and my phone was not working well at all. Well, of course Att wants to protect their existing customer base (especially the larger accounts) and offered me a brand new replacement which is the i777 to keep me happy.. they said I don't need to upgrade my account or pay anything... Its just cause I said I will complain to our administration department who is responsible for the corporate accounts if they don't make me smile.. so this is their offer.
so, I think its a functional unit and has nothing wrong with it
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So, you had a chance to use both, you know how Atrix is like and now have sample (through your work) using i777. Do you like i777 better or Atrix.
When I got mine I was researching between i777 and Atrix. I end up with i777 because it was the best choice for me. As stated in the earlier post Atrix has Blur (I hate Blur), so my choice was clear to get i777.
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Okay, thanks for the input guys.. I just placed my order for a full free replacement kit. I also get free overnight shipping because "I always get subpar customer service from att"....
LOL
Thanks for all the help! My name is Alex, and I am excited to be a part of the new community.
Best regards,
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Guess you beat me to the punch. Glad that you decided to join us.
I was a previous owner of a Motorola Atrix and after switching to this phone I am really happy I did. There is a huge difference between the Atrix and Galaxy S II forum community. There are way to many trolls and rude people on the Atrix board and the development was fairly slow in comparison to how it is over here. As a phone the GSII is quite a bit better as well. I would definitively take the GSII over the Atrix any day.
I have an Atrix. I loved it, screen broke, got a SGSII.
I work next to a Radioshack. They are always giving their employees free AT&T phones. They always come to me to put new ROMS on them.
Did not enjoy blur whatsoever, nor the bootloaders. Could not make that phone anywhere as snappy as SGSII. Not even on the same level if you ask me. Now they have SGSII's next door, and boy are they happy with the stuff I do to their phones.
They still don't know **** about them... Always doing wifi speed tests against iPhones like that is some sort of benchmark. I lol a little everytime I flash a new kernel for them and they say their wifi speeds went up a little.
We have got to have one of the easiest phones to root/rom.
I also have both. I loved the Atrix but after dealing with the Sleep Of Death issue, and not getting cooperation from ATT to replace it since I bought it used. I used my wife's upgrade in December and picked up the SGS2. I dug my Atrix out the other day to flash CM9 on it for kicks and its a HUGE step back as far as display and build of device. Definitely a good choice to switch to the I777.
I'm surprised that this is a discussion. I found the Atrix to be atrocious.
Sgs2 over Atrix.
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Just in case future readers care...(since the OP already made his decision)...
Came from 3gs months ago...got i777...thought I had screen burn so exchanged for Atrix 2...had it for less than a week and went back to get another i777. just liked it that much better...couldn't stay away.
Motorola advantages
Clearer small text with qHD display
Slightly louder in call volume
Nice grippy back cover (felt no desire to get a cover for it)
Samsung advantages - all else
More vivid display
Slightly quicker overall
Very much liked TouchWiz UI over others
Like I said, pretty much all else went to i777
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I currently have both the i777 and the Atrix 2. If you actually use your phone as a phone and GPS navigation aid, Atrix 2 is hands down the better device. Call quality, data speeds, gps lock and accuracy, overall excellent build quality, as well as a better screen (I know you AMOLED fanboys hate that one) make the Atrix 2 the winner. Yes, the A2 locked bootloader is a drawback but...
I use the Atrix 2.
I play with the i777.
I returned the Galaxy Nexus.
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I currently have both the i777 and the Atrix 2. If you actually use your phone as a phone and GPS navigation aid, Atrix 2 is hands down the better device. Call quality, data speeds, gps lock and accuracy, overall excellent build quality, as well as a better screen (I know you AMOLED fanboys hate that one) make the Atrix 2 the winner. Yes, the A2 locked bootloader is a drawback but...
I use the Atrix 2.
I play with the i777.
I returned the Galaxy Nexus.
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Actually the i777 has a far better screen
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I actually had the unbearable misfortune of being stuck on my dad's Atrix for a few days last week. The difference was ridiculous. Compared to the i777 the Atrix is laggy, tiny, buggy (stock Atrix, UnNamed i777), and overall worse.
Make the trade before they take the offer away.
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Had the Atrix and the i777 and honestly the only thing that impressed me about the i777 was the screen.
As far as the Atrix goes, I didn't give two ****s for a finger print sensor or the useless laptop dock. Good idea but poor execution. Blur is absolute garbage and I got rid of that **** the day I bought the phone.
GS2i777 no complaints except the battery doesn't last as long. Atrix battery is slightly superior. Touchwiz although highly improved and refined versus Blur, I got rid of it too and used CM7 with ADW Ex on both phones and they both kicked major ass. Battery life on both phones was exceptional.
Performance wise, I don't know what you guys are doing with your phones like trying to power a goddamn nuclear fusion reactor or something but after highly modifying them to no end, I find them equal as far as performance goes. I don't care for any high intensity graphic and visually stunning games. I use both phones for work, email, occasional words with friends, a ton of assorted games and apps and mainly checking the web, sports, news, stocks, facebook every now and again.
I'm not talking about silly pointless benchmarks, I'm talking about real world performance, GPS was equal for both. The only reason I bought the i777 was for the screen. When I let someone mess around with my phone, every single one of them had the "awwww damn this screen is amazing" look on their faces.
I'm not starting a war with anyone, they're both badass phones. Everyone has their own opinions obviously so if you don't agree with mine then please flush it down the toilet.
Sold my i777 for the i9100 now my phone rapes all. :-D
As subject says, also does the sgs3 have cm10 support?
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Owning both, and returning the gs3. I would have to say if you can get the gs3 for a good price, go for it. Do not pay almost $300 for it. The gs3 is not a huge improvement over the gs2. If you own the gs2 already just flash jovy's darthstalker, it damn near represents a gs3 in every way. The gs3 also is very easily broken. Do not drop that thing! The gs2 just feels stronger.
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As far as anything jelly bean, expect the gs3 to be stable because there is already jb releases for it. The gs2 in my opinion will get jelly officially, give it time. For now any from based on jelly will be unstable on the gs2.
Thanks for the quick reply, the reason I asked is I have an upgrade available on my account, my roommate is using an old G 1 still , I was thinking if the galaxy s 3 was worth it I would get that then give him my old galaxy s2. I am extremely happy with it so I was only thinking if it was a good enough upgrade. Its to bad the g2 doesn't have cm10.
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Ugh. This topic again. Half the people in this forum are biased and naive. The gs3 is a much better handset. Go to a T-Mobile store and compared them side by side for yourself instead of listening to these guys. I play with my friends almost daily and it makes me hate my t989.
-Side by side app loading is faster
-games and the ICS UI run faster and smoother (dead trigger runs at a smoother FPS despite the huge increase in pixels over the 480p screen on this phone
-high def 720p screen
-2gb of ram (the phone doesn't stutter and spurt like this one while updating apps for example)
-better front and rear camera sensors
-4.8 inch screen
-a bigger battery
-a hybrid cortex A15 CPU
-better GPS chip. My friends gets a GPS lock almost instantly while mine still takes 10-20 seconds even with the AGPS patch.
Everythig just works. The phone is so good my friend hasnt even bothered to flash a different ROM and we both owned the t989 simultaneously. He just rooted and called it a day. He loves it. BTW he works for tmobile. My only gripes against it is that I think its ugly and is a bit too expensive on T-Mobile. 280$. Though you shouldn't have too much trouble selling this phone for a good 200-300$. Like I said. Go to T-Mobile store and compare them yourself. Its a bad question to ask here.
Btw Davwman didn't you "own" the gs3 already last month? You claimed you owned it and now you own it again?? Lol.
Someone PLEASE CLOSE THIS TOPIC.
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Apparently you didn't read. I had it three months ago and went back to a gs2 ever since. Never said I got another one. Yes its a better phone but not worth the large amount of money they want. Like I said flash jovys darthstalker and see what I mean.
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How am I biased and naive? Most of your points are user related. As far as dead trigger goes, not everyone plays it, so that point is moot. I play it on my gs2 and have zero issues. Apps loading faster? What by a micro second? My GPS locks instantly on darthstalker rom. Personally the difference in screen quality isn't that great. Its a phone not a 50" HD TV. If you have the $300 to burn on a slight upgrade go for it. There will be better stuff out in the near future that I'm sure won't be as fragile as the gs3.
The difference is I was stating facts. You stated your opinion. In the end the GS3 is a better handset no matter which way you look at it. And flashing a rom ( that's nowhere near perfect and has issues.. from a dev that just popped up out of nowhere... :-/ ) that mimics the s3 doesn't magically turn the gs2 into an gs3. Not arguing with you anymore as I've made my point. Btw when you say "Owning both and returning the s3" ...that's present tense. Obviously you can't read your own posts. Try proof reading for once.
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As someone who has never owned a GSII but has played around with it for a good time after getting my GSIII, there is no comparison.
(This was before I rooted my GSIII, both of the phones were stock for the most part.)
The GSII felt sturdier to me, I could get a good grip of the device and it felt right to me. The GSIII feels weak without a case to me.
From a specs perspective, there is no competition. The GSIII has better hardware no doubt. UI felt smoother and more intuitive as well, the new TW felt pretty bloated in my opinion, but it still worked well. As far as battery life goes, the GSIII battery was crap for me the first few days. After about 4 days of usage i'm getting a solid day of heavy heavy usage and finishing the day with around 20-30% left.
I got my GSIII during the Magenta Days Sale and it was something like $100--which was a steal to me.
Switched over from Verizon to T-mobile and it was definitely worth it to get a nice phone for a relatively low price.
Like the post above, you can make your GSII damn close to the GSIII but it will never be a GSIII.
If it's too far out of your price range the One S is at a pretty slick price right now.
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As someone who has never owned a GSII but has played around with it for a good time after getting my GSIII, there is no comparison.
(This was before I rooted my GSIII, both of the phones were stock for the most part.)
The GSII felt sturdier to me, I could get a good grip of the device and it felt right to me. The GSIII feels weak without a case to me.
From a specs perspective, there is no competition. The GSIII has better hardware no doubt. UI felt smoother and more intuitive as well, the new TW felt pretty bloated in my opinion, but it still worked well. As far as battery life goes, the GSIII battery was crap for me the first few days. After about 4 days of usage i'm getting a solid day of heavy heavy usage and finishing the day with around 20-30% left.
I got my GSIII during the Magenta Days Sale and it was something like $100--which was a steal to me.
Switched over from Verizon to T-mobile and it was definitely worth it to get a nice phone for a relatively low price.
Like the post above, you can make your GSII damn close to the GSIII but it will never be a GSIII.
If it's too far out of your price range the One S is at a pretty slick price right now.
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Yeah i was looking at the HTC One S, Looks good and is a bit more affordable. I have CM10 on my GS2 and it works pretty well.Up until the GS2 i had always had HTC phones. My big deal breaker is whether it will have Cyanogenmod support or not. So far that has been my favorite rom. i do like HTC Sense but never had a phone that cam stock with it. When i had my MT3G i tried a few Hero Roms and liked em and there was never really any good ones for the G2 so i never really did mess with Sense all that much.
I really hated touchwiz... My only Concern with Samsung at this point is the Repercussions of the Apple Lawsuits.