Hello!
I have an opportunity to trade my Atrix in for free for a brand new SGS i777.
Would you suggest I pull the trigger? Or stick with my current bad boy?
Thanks!!
I currently have both Atrix and I777. IMHO there is no clear winner and that is the reason, I keep switching back and forth between these two. Atrix has FingerScanner which I really find useful. I777 has NFC but no support. As I said, for me there is no winner. Others here might disagree and say I777 is better.
Lol, no clear winner? Come on man. I wouldn't wait another second to pull the trigger if I was you. You are basically robbing the poor sucker who is willing to trade with you, unless there is something seriously wrong with the i777.
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Actually, my company is a corporate account with Att and we are a pretty large organization (s-oney) ... and, recently I was on an international business trip and my phone was not working well at all. Well, of course Att wants to protect their existing customer base (especially the larger accounts) and offered me a brand new replacement which is the i777 to keep me happy.. they said I don't need to upgrade my account or pay anything... Its just cause I said I will complain to our administration department who is responsible for the corporate accounts if they don't make me smile.. so this is their offer.
so, I think its a functional unit and has nothing wrong with it
Atrix vs i777
i777 has:
-A better screen
-A more powerful CPU and GPU
-Better community support
-Better cameras
-Touchwiz (an improvement to Android
Atrix has:
-Webtop
-Finder reader
-More games without rooting
-Blur (a detriment to Android)
Let's not forget Motorola's stance towards developers is even more awful than Samsung's.
Locked bootloaders for the lose.
I have had both, my Atrix was stolen so I got the SGS2 as a replacement, and I wouldn't even think of going back. It's a superior phone, period.
Okay, thanks for the input guys.. I just placed my order for a full free replacement kit. I also get free overnight shipping because "I always get subpar customer service from att"....
LOL
Thanks for all the help! My name is Alex, and I am excited to be a part of the new community.
Best regards,
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Actually, my company is a corporate account with Att and we are a pretty large organization (s-oney) ... and, recently I was on an international business trip and my phone was not working well at all. Well, of course Att wants to protect their existing customer base (especially the larger accounts) and offered me a brand new replacement which is the i777 to keep me happy.. they said I don't need to upgrade my account or pay anything... Its just cause I said I will complain to our administration department who is responsible for the corporate accounts if they don't make me smile.. so this is their offer.
so, I think its a functional unit and has nothing wrong with it
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So, you had a chance to use both, you know how Atrix is like and now have sample (through your work) using i777. Do you like i777 better or Atrix.
When I got mine I was researching between i777 and Atrix. I end up with i777 because it was the best choice for me. As stated in the earlier post Atrix has Blur (I hate Blur), so my choice was clear to get i777.
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ssmr2t said:
Okay, thanks for the input guys.. I just placed my order for a full free replacement kit. I also get free overnight shipping because "I always get subpar customer service from att"....
LOL
Thanks for all the help! My name is Alex, and I am excited to be a part of the new community.
Best regards,
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Guess you beat me to the punch. Glad that you decided to join us.
I was a previous owner of a Motorola Atrix and after switching to this phone I am really happy I did. There is a huge difference between the Atrix and Galaxy S II forum community. There are way to many trolls and rude people on the Atrix board and the development was fairly slow in comparison to how it is over here. As a phone the GSII is quite a bit better as well. I would definitively take the GSII over the Atrix any day.
I have an Atrix. I loved it, screen broke, got a SGSII.
I work next to a Radioshack. They are always giving their employees free AT&T phones. They always come to me to put new ROMS on them.
Did not enjoy blur whatsoever, nor the bootloaders. Could not make that phone anywhere as snappy as SGSII. Not even on the same level if you ask me. Now they have SGSII's next door, and boy are they happy with the stuff I do to their phones.
They still don't know **** about them... Always doing wifi speed tests against iPhones like that is some sort of benchmark. I lol a little everytime I flash a new kernel for them and they say their wifi speeds went up a little.
We have got to have one of the easiest phones to root/rom.
I also have both. I loved the Atrix but after dealing with the Sleep Of Death issue, and not getting cooperation from ATT to replace it since I bought it used. I used my wife's upgrade in December and picked up the SGS2. I dug my Atrix out the other day to flash CM9 on it for kicks and its a HUGE step back as far as display and build of device. Definitely a good choice to switch to the I777.
I'm surprised that this is a discussion. I found the Atrix to be atrocious.
Sgs2 over Atrix.
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Just in case future readers care...(since the OP already made his decision)...
Came from 3gs months ago...got i777...thought I had screen burn so exchanged for Atrix 2...had it for less than a week and went back to get another i777. just liked it that much better...couldn't stay away.
Motorola advantages
Clearer small text with qHD display
Slightly louder in call volume
Nice grippy back cover (felt no desire to get a cover for it)
Samsung advantages - all else
More vivid display
Slightly quicker overall
Very much liked TouchWiz UI over others
Like I said, pretty much all else went to i777
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I currently have both the i777 and the Atrix 2. If you actually use your phone as a phone and GPS navigation aid, Atrix 2 is hands down the better device. Call quality, data speeds, gps lock and accuracy, overall excellent build quality, as well as a better screen (I know you AMOLED fanboys hate that one) make the Atrix 2 the winner. Yes, the A2 locked bootloader is a drawback but...
I use the Atrix 2.
I play with the i777.
I returned the Galaxy Nexus.
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I currently have both the i777 and the Atrix 2. If you actually use your phone as a phone and GPS navigation aid, Atrix 2 is hands down the better device. Call quality, data speeds, gps lock and accuracy, overall excellent build quality, as well as a better screen (I know you AMOLED fanboys hate that one) make the Atrix 2 the winner. Yes, the A2 locked bootloader is a drawback but...
I use the Atrix 2.
I play with the i777.
I returned the Galaxy Nexus.
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Actually the i777 has a far better screen
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I actually had the unbearable misfortune of being stuck on my dad's Atrix for a few days last week. The difference was ridiculous. Compared to the i777 the Atrix is laggy, tiny, buggy (stock Atrix, UnNamed i777), and overall worse.
Make the trade before they take the offer away.
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Had the Atrix and the i777 and honestly the only thing that impressed me about the i777 was the screen.
As far as the Atrix goes, I didn't give two ****s for a finger print sensor or the useless laptop dock. Good idea but poor execution. Blur is absolute garbage and I got rid of that **** the day I bought the phone.
GS2i777 no complaints except the battery doesn't last as long. Atrix battery is slightly superior. Touchwiz although highly improved and refined versus Blur, I got rid of it too and used CM7 with ADW Ex on both phones and they both kicked major ass. Battery life on both phones was exceptional.
Performance wise, I don't know what you guys are doing with your phones like trying to power a goddamn nuclear fusion reactor or something but after highly modifying them to no end, I find them equal as far as performance goes. I don't care for any high intensity graphic and visually stunning games. I use both phones for work, email, occasional words with friends, a ton of assorted games and apps and mainly checking the web, sports, news, stocks, facebook every now and again.
I'm not talking about silly pointless benchmarks, I'm talking about real world performance, GPS was equal for both. The only reason I bought the i777 was for the screen. When I let someone mess around with my phone, every single one of them had the "awwww damn this screen is amazing" look on their faces.
I'm not starting a war with anyone, they're both badass phones. Everyone has their own opinions obviously so if you don't agree with mine then please flush it down the toilet.
Sold my i777 for the i9100 now my phone rapes all. :-D
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i was willing to buy the Atrix 4g for its dualcore beast and right now we hav 3 of that kind. Can anybody suggest the best one out of the Three???
SGS 2. 'nuff said.
thread closed.
for $800 it better wipe your a$$.
-i have heard disappointing reviews on the camera, wifi, touchwiz, build quality, samsung updates(though motorola is bad with bell users).
-i wouldnt buy an LG as they have no solid track record and too many complaints to list
-atrix has its fair share of problems primarily the bootloader and camera isnt the greatest.
Anyone else kinda disappointed by this new generation of dual cores as a whole?
Nope i love my sg2 much more than my atrix!
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if i could atleast have it in my hand and it was $150 or more less I would definitely consider it.
Having both devices, what are the benefits of sgs2? Be as unbiased as possible please.
where did u buy the S2?
People harp on about the SG2 being all plasticy, but compared to the atrix it feels much more solid. the case shell on the atrix creaks whenever i hold it, whether that be age 'wear and tear' or what not.
i find the camera to be much better than the atrix
the screen is much better on the SG2 but thats personal choice
i do miss quirky features such as the fingerprint reader and webtop but thats about it. Everything else the SG2 does the same if not better. Even in stock form, no mods comparing the two it becomes much greater. as gingerblur fixed alot of problems (motoblur!)
saying that, the Atrix is still the 2nd best device i had!
my 2 cents
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where did u buy the S2?
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handtec, got it sent from UK to AUS in 4 days!
Sorry. but f**k the Galaxy S II! The Galaxy S I9000 was soooooooo much better. From what ive heard, the Optimus 2X has really good build quality. But yeah they have a terrible track record, usually they make products with crappy quality. The Atrix is sweet but the locked bootloader and the fact that we have to wait for Motorola for updates; that drags it down.
1) Moto Atrix
2) LG Optimus 2X
3) Galaxy S II
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Sorry. but f**k the Galaxy S II! The Galaxy S I9000 was soooooooo much better. From what ive heard, the Optimus 2X has really good build quality. But yeah they have a terrible track record, usually they make products with crappy quality. The Atrix is sweet but the locked bootloader and the fact that we have to wait for Motorola for updates; that drags it down.
1) Moto Atrix
2) LG Optimus 2X
3) Galaxy S II
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So guys....I just want a nice cellphone. I don't care for root and stuff. So, I guess the atrix will be fine for me right?
Do the G2x and S2 have been unlocked yet?
ty vm and sry about my english, Im trying to improve
If you want the best everyday phone I would buy the atrix battery last a day or more!
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LOL @ the guy who said the phone creaks in his hand. that is such utter LIES.
In any case, Samsung has a pretty horrible track record with the i9000 quality. Just look up i9000m internal SD on google and have fun sorting through that mess.. A phone that just auto nukes its internal SD whenever it wants.
As for the Atrix it has IMO an amazing screen (which you can use at full brightness) at little penatly on the giant battery.
If you wanna save battery and use juice defender the max I have gotten out of it before dying is 56 hours.... on a single charge.
So yeah.
Thanks for all the suggestion guys.. The Quadrant benchmarks of samsung galaxy sII ended up being something like around 3500 which is the heighest till date...atrix is around 2700 i guess...any comments on this fact??
Things aren't perfect with the SG2 there's the:
1. Heat dissipation issues were people are already returning their phones just for that alone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068663
2. WiFi Issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1067473
3. (Much More Than Normal) "Dead Pixel" Screens
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065935
4. Lack of Notification LED - (most knew about this already)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058596
I'm not going to say which phone is better since they All 3 phones have their issues, but it's also interesting to watch people dropping $750-$1000 already thinking the SG2 will be the perfect device. (yes there's no perfect device blah blah blah...)
Anywhoo... For the record, I'm not totally trilled with the Atrix at this moment either. I've also thought about switching to the SG2 already myself, but IMO it's too high of a price tag to give it a chance right now.
The bottom line, there really isn't really a clear cut winner...
hmm i have an atrix 4g, simunlocked from att, i had issues with wifi in my country, now that i managed to fix it and am running gingerblur, im very happy with the phone, however the case really is squeaking (back when i was in the US i had another atrix4g which i went to replace cuz the fingerprint scanner locked up occasionally, that one had perfect build quality, this one just squeaks at the top, and she cover shell is somehow too big for it...) and the locked bootloader is really annoying me, the screen is very good in my opinion. If i would be buying one of the phones now i would go with the LG i think (my main reasons: tegra2, unlocked bootloader, proper support), as to the sgs2 its too big in my opinion (seriously hwo needs a 4.3" phone, even the 4" are too big kind of - id prefer a 3.8"/3.7" like the original htc desire, but noone makes high end phones with that screen size..). Cant say much more about the sgs2, as that it doesnt have tegra2 which i prefer over other dualcore ARM based chips right now. Atrix has way better hardware specs than the LG tho: more ram, more flash, better battery, webtop, fingerprint scanner - love that one lol, the only worser spec is the camera on the atrix. so go figure For stock use the Atrix would be the best ithink
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hmm i have an atrix 4g, simunlocked from att, i had issues with wifi in my country, now that i managed to fix it
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How did you manage to fix the wifi issues?
used other drivers for the wifi, the stock ones from motorola are missing my country ROFL, retards at moto. im trying to get a UK /system dump or at least the wifi drivers to test them out.
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Thanks for all the suggestion guys.. The Quadrant benchmarks of samsung galaxy sII ended up being something like around 3500 which is the heighest till date...atrix is around 2700 i guess...any comments on this fact??
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e-penis is big enough.
why not htc hd2 .......its the better device
just kiding xD...but I have one now , just sold my atrix, I will try lg and SGS2
IF you want test...why you don't bought 2 and return to the store the phone you don't like it
I see many opnions.....and many FANS off samsung, lg and motorola
soo, if you want the opinion...ask in xda general not in motorola session....
thats probably a very good idea. I love my atrix so im going to lean towards this phone.
General might be less bias.
I currently have the AT&T Captivate and I have the chance to get a new AT&T phone. When I bought the Captivate it was my first Android phone and pretty amazing compared to my AT&T Fuze and before that my AT&T wizard. I just want to see if SGS2 will be what the Captivate wasn't. GPS sucked, no front facing camera, lack of OS updates but everything else seemed comfortable and fast to me. I just found a perfect battery life ROM for my captivate and if I buy this phone today I just want to make sure it will impress me more than the Captivate. I also want your opinions on your switch from the predecessor and why you stuck with another Samsung phone? (which I don't mind cause of the amazing community here)
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I currently have the AT&T Captivate and I have the chance to get a new AT&T phone. When I bought the Captivate it was my first Android phone and pretty amazing compared to my AT&T Fuze and before that my AT&T wizard. I just want to see if SGS2 will be what the Captivate wasn't. GPS sucked, no front facing camera, lack of OS updates but everything else seemed comfortable and fast to me. I just found a perfect battery life ROM for my captivate and if I buy this phone today I just want to make sure it will impress me more than the Captivate. I also want your opinions on your switch from the predecessor and why you stuck with another Samsung phone? (which I don't mind cause of the amazing community here)
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I switched from the Infuse.
1) GPS - the Infuse was a significant improvement over the Cappy, and so far, the GS2 seems to be a massive improvement over the Infuse
2) FFC - just like the Infuse, we have it. That's about all I can say
3) Lack of OS updates - get used to this on AT&T - but just like the Cappy (and unlike the Infuse), the deltas from the international variant are small enough that this doesn't really matter.
Reasons I stuck with Samsung, including paying full outright purchase price:
1) Samsung's clear developer support policies - device donations to Cyanogenmod, they even donated an Infuse to supercurio for Voodoo work, source code dropping BEFORE device release
2) Samsung ease of development - Samsungs are really damn hard to brick and easy to flash
3) sAMOLED+
I too had a Captivate. Coming from a Tilt/E71/N97 Mini, it was amazing. It had gotten sluggish, but I wasn't planning on re-setting it back to stock or flashing another rom on it until my year was up (I was rooted). When I first got it I really thought it would do me for a couple of years. The more I read about the SGS2 though, the better it sounded. So I caved.
I bought one the day they were released and haven't regretted it at all. It makes the Captivate seem like it's slogging through molasses in January. Everything is instantaneous, the GPS gets a lock inside my house within a matter of seconds, the battery life is greatly improved, etc. Oh, as a plus, it also seems to pick up signal where no other phone has before - actually, that's a HUGE plus for me.
If you know of anyone with an SGS2, it might pay for you to at least mess with it a bit so you can see for yourself "in the real world".
I'm now ready to use the Captivate to flash roms and experiment (yay), then when my 30 days is up, I'll root the SGS2 and see from there.
I recommend the SGS2, but as usual, ymmv.
as Entropy said (which is pretty much hitting the "nail on the head"), samsung devices are hard to brick, easy to modify and they've supported independent developers, which is cool in my book.
I got my SGS2 from Radio Shack for 179.99 upgrade contract. Coming from Captivate running Pinnacle with Samurai kernel, I would say it is barely worth the 180$ (80 of those being for the front facing camera and a flash , another 20 for the GPS).
What about the amazing 8mp camera compared to the cappy the sgs2 is an amazingly huge improvement. And of course the crazy out of the box speed its like besides removing bloatware you don't need any other ROM to make it fast...
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I got my SGS2 from Radio Shack for 179.99 upgrade contract. Coming from Captivate running Pinnacle with Samurai kernel, I would say it is barely worth the 180$ (80 of those being for the front facing camera and a flash , another 20 for the GPS).
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"Barely"!?
I came from the captivate (made a short stop at the Thrill on my way) and could literally not be more impressed with this phone.
Its amazing, its got the dev support, its thin, its light, its bigger screen, bettery battery life, FFC, flash, tons of RAM, plenty horsepower. I cannot start enough Apps to bog this phone down, I have never seen it lag or hesitate.
With the Galaxy Nexus exclusivity confirmed (phandroid) on Verizon, if you want a high end android phone on AT&T, you only have one choice. If you want mid-range phone with decent specs, and no dev support give Thrill or Atrix 2 a try for half the price. I have no doubt that the GS II is worth the upgrade, especially if you can sell your captivate to pay for it.
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I got my SGS2 from Radio Shack for 179.99 upgrade contract. Coming from Captivate running Pinnacle with Samurai kernel, I would say it is barely worth the 180$ (80 of those being for the front facing camera and a flash , another 20 for the GPS).
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That is one thing that kills me though, the price. It might be worth it to me though. I actually miss using GPS with me and my brother battling on Foursquare, and now that my family uses their front facing camera on their iphone 4's to talk I can actually put it to a lot of use. ( I feel kinda left out with the cappy haha.)
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I got my SGS2 from Radio Shack for 179.99 upgrade contract. Coming from Captivate running Pinnacle with Samurai kernel, I would say it is barely worth the 180$ (80 of those being for the front facing camera and a flash , another 20 for the GPS).
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HATERS GONNA HATE...give me a break the captivate ain't even on the same playing field as this phone PERIOD. Loved my Captivate but this statement is plain nuts.
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I have no doubt that the GS II is worth the upgrade, especially if you can sell your captivate to pay for it.
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haha If I didn't put my cappy through hell in my pocket (no scratches on the screen though!) I hope I still can get a decent price for it.
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"Barely"!?
I came from the captivate (made a short stop at the Thrill on my way) and could literally not be more impressed with this phone.
Its amazing, its got the dev support, its thin, its light, its bigger screen, bettery battery life, FFC, flash, tons of RAM, plenty horsepower. I cannot start enough Apps to bog this phone down, I have never seen it lag or hesitate.
With the Galaxy Nexus exclusivity confirmed (phandroid) on Verizon, if you want a high end android phone on AT&T, you only have one choice. If you want mid-range phone with decent specs, and no dev support give Thrill or Atrix 2 a try for half the price. I have no doubt that the GS II is worth the upgrade, especially if you can sell your captivate to pay for it.
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Well, I got the Captivate as a free upgrade, coming from HTC Aria (which was also free), so my upgrades are gradual in terms of phone quality. When I said barely, that's what I meant - paying actual money for SGS2
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What about the amazing 8mp camera compared to the cappy the sgs2 is an amazingly huge improvement. And of course the crazy out of the box speed its like besides removing bloatware you don't need any other ROM to make it fast...
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I use a DSLR for photography, and megapixels are not a selling point for me.
Speed out of the box is great, that's true, but again, I was coming from a speedy smooth running custom kernel/rom on the Captivate...
I also came from Cappy and tried almost every iteration of roms then stuck with CM7. I had two cappys (3 if you include my wife's) a d I sold MY second cappy for $160, went down to a Walmart store and got the SGS2 for $148.88 and something like $164 after tax. So basically it was free for me and I still have my cappy as a backup even though I haven't needed it. This seems a lot more stable and harder to even softbrick than the cappy. So YES it is worth every penny.
I Love my cappy but it really doesn't compare to the SGS2. Besides all the difference you already mentioned this thing even at stock performs VERY WELL. This phone is guaranteed the next generation of OS (ICE CREAM SANDWICH). It has the same dev support as the captivate. It is a very fast and I THINK still the fastest phone in the market. You CANNOT go wrong with it. I could reiterate the OTHER pluses but they have been covered above. Just pull the trigger and you wont look back.
Sent From My KICKASS CM7 AT&T SGS2
Well I finally gave in and bought one. So far I love it!
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I currently have the AT&T Captivate and I have the chance to get a new AT&T phone. When I bought the Captivate it was my first Android phone and pretty amazing compared to my AT&T Fuze and before that my AT&T wizard. I just want to see if SGS2 will be what the Captivate wasn't. GPS sucked, no front facing camera, lack of OS updates but everything else seemed comfortable and fast to me. I just found a perfect battery life ROM for my captivate and if I buy this phone today I just want to make sure it will impress me more than the Captivate. I also want your opinions on your switch from the predecessor and why you stuck with another Samsung phone? (which I don't mind cause of the amazing community here)
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I came from the Captivate. Totally worth the upgrade. GPS works, The screen is awesome. So much awesome in this phone. You can get it at WalMart for $160 on 2-year contract.
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haha If I didn't put my cappy through hell in my pocket (no scratches on the screen though!) I hope I still can get a decent price for it.
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Ha! I just updated from a Captivate because I *ran over* it the other night. Luckily, it wasn't in my pocket at the time. The Gorilla Glass is impressive. The display panel behind the glass faceplate is shattered, 100s of cracks. The faceplate itself is completely undamaged. The phone still worked, though no display. Luckily I'd left it in USB Debug so I could get all my crap off it still.
The S2 is a noticeable improvement over the Cappy. Speedier, with much less lag, a brilliant display (though I think my Cappy display had faded and gotten some burn in so the comparison my not be all that fair).
As with so many other owners, I was exasperated by the S1's GPS. I'd gotten it to work OK after lots of fiddling (changing to a larger battery and the non-conductive plastic back plate that came with it seemed to make a significant difference) but it was still marginal at best.
The Bluetooth at last can finally initiate a hands-free voice-activated call, though it's annoying it can't do that with the screen off (wondering if I can fix that with Tasker), and I'm thinking of swapping in the stock voice APK since the Samsung Vlingo thing is a bit slow... Voice response via BT has always been an Android disappointment, it's something that for all their faults, Blackberry has honed to a fine art.
Okay, trying to find out all of the relevant things about this phone is a lot more difficult that it sounds, getting some real world experiences from the XDA community makes more sense. I am coming from a Samsung Vibrant, a device still without 2.3 from the manufacturer, that has always had pretty bad GPS, and leaves a lot to be desired..
Feel free to offer any of the positives/negatives you've found switching from your old device, compare, contrast.. anything goes. A few of my specific questions:
Battery life? Under heavy use, not just because you have a million apps with notifications every 5 minutes..
The ease of rooting and recovering if something goes wrong? I've never came close to bricking my old phone, but we have software we can flash(odin) the original software with in download mode-- does this phone have protections like that?
Development and community support? I've never owned an HTC, so I am wondering if they are better about updating devices? Does the dev community here have difficulty getting drivers and such to create new roms(or upgrade to ICS)?
Think about the concerns you had before you upgraded to this phone(for those who actually think things out, not the "oh, shiney!" crowd), did this phone fill your expectations, is there another phone you wish you had bought(or one coming out you would hold out for) that works with T-mobile?
The only thing this phone seems to be missing is NFC, and I'm unsure about how the screen quality is versus my amoled galaxy S. The only other phone I'd consider that is out now is the S II, but something about it leaves me underwhelmed..
Please, be positive, no flaming, no telling me I should spend hours/days using search to find outdated answers to my questions- this has the potential to help other people considering the device!
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Okay, trying to find out all of the relevant things about this phone is a lot more difficult that it sounds, getting some real world experiences from the XDA community makes more sense. I am coming from a Samsung Vibrant, a device still without 2.3 from the manufacturer, that has always had pretty bad GPS, and leaves a lot to be desired..
Feel free to offer any of the positives/negatives you've found switching from your old device, compare, contrast.. anything goes. A few of my specific questions:
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See my signature. This phone suits my needs. The others have been good for what I needed them for (Sensation: similar but the Amaze has better everything; more RAM, better backlit illuminated camera, 2mp front camera, NFC, dedicated video/camera button), (Galaxy Note: has everything I needed, but camera was slightly slower and I have Tmobile and I couldn't handle the EDGE data only) I don't regret getting the Amaze. It is slightly heavier and thicker than the Sensation, but its solid.
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Battery life? Under heavy use, not just because you have a million apps with notifications every 5 minutes..
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Battery life is not that great if you are a power user. I have 3 batteries and it gets me through the day. I usually do not need to use the 3rd battery. I use the phone for practically everything. Gaming: Shadowgun 30mins-45mins, texting: 30-50 msg, Netflix streaming: Yo Gabba Gabba 30mins, Music playing via bluetooth headphone 1hr at the gym, phone calls via car bluetooth for 30mins, regular phone calls 30mins-1hr, surfing the web 20-40mins, xda forum for 30-40mins. With all those things, I use 2 batteries. If I cut the activities in half, I can use 1battery and it will last me around 12-14hrs. (My rooted sensation did better at 16hrs, but I don't mind the 2hrs sacrifice)
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The ease of rooting and recovering if something goes wrong? I've never came close to bricking my old phone, but we have software we can flash(odin) the original software with in download mode-- does this phone have protections like that?
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use the search button: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324177
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Development and community support? I've never owned an HTC, so I am wondering if they are better about updating devices? Does the dev community here have difficulty getting drivers and such to create new roms(or upgrade to ICS)?
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This phone is roughly a little over a month old. Don't expect the community to be brimming with new things, especially with the announcement of ICS. Most developers do not want to dev something that will last only 2 months and then have replaced by a totally new firmware (ICS). So there will be a slight lull during this couple of months. But there are some great developers like Xboarder56, NRGZ28, mike1986 and Revolution that is keep this phone relevant. I really appreciate these guys.
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Think about the concerns you had before you upgraded to this phone(for those who actually think things out, not the "oh, shiney!" crowd), did this phone fill your expectations, is there another phone you wish you had bought(or one coming out you would hold out for) that works with T-mobile?
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The build quality is top notch (at least initially) for HTC phones. IMO it is definitely better than the current Samsung phones out now. The Galaxy Note was a nice phone but you can totally tell that it did not use premium material for the overall phone. The glass looked nice, but it did not have Gorilla glass.
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The only thing this phone seems to be missing is NFC, and I'm unsure about how the screen quality is versus my amoled galaxy S. The only other phone I'd consider that is out now is the S II, but something about it leaves me underwhelmed..
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This phone DOES HAVE NFC. Check the specs. (Near Field Communications)
http://htc.t-mobile.com/amaze-camera-phone#/Specs
Having come from the Vibrant:
Great battery life-QS1.5.1
Great build quality
Great camera
Easy to root
Easy to backup
Easy to flash
[CWMR]
you can't really brick this phone because we're stuck with s-on. Usually bricking occurs when you mess with bootloader and radio. However, with s-on we can't change that unless its through an OTA update.
Rooting takes a minute, recovery is done with CWM recovery, so it should be familiar.
btw the vibrant sucks balls.
however the gs2 is supposedly a huge upgrade to all their crappy predecessor so you can check that out too if you're afraid of the change from samsung to htc.
You can always invest in a mytouch 4g or sensation to see how it's like. They're both AMAZING phones har har but of course they lack in hardware specs, but they're both better than any other samsung phones out there except the latest ones.
Best T-Mobile phone going right now!
Let me start by saying I have been with Android since day 1. Started with the G1, then Mytouch 3g, the Nexus One, the Vibrant, the Mytouch 4g, and now the Amaze. I have not had a problem with any HTC phones and they are all still running today. The only phone I had any issue with was the one Samsung (also still running). I am not an HTC "fanboy" if something better came along I would certainly buy that.
The Amaze is the best phone T-Mobile offers right now. Compared to your Vibrant you'll be blown away with the quality of the phone the fact that everything works as it should.
HTC has a good track record of updating their devices OS's (Even the Mytouch 3g got Froyo before the Vibrant) and they do it OTA, no Kies. HTC's have always been quickly adopted by the development community for their relative ease of rooting and overall usage of "common" hardware that allows you to make ROM's for several different devices with very little modification.
Gingerbread is not a huge leap from Froyo. Most everyday users would be hard pressed to find a real difference. What will be different is going to HTC Sense from Samsung's TouchWiz interface. This will be a case of "It's up to you" totally depends on your own personal taste. I personally couldn't stand Touchwiz.
Battery life has been a little better than my MT4g was and seems to be about on par with or maybe a little better than my Vibrant. I have not owned a phone since my Palm Treo 650 that I didn't have to charge at least daily so I don't think there will be any surprise for you here.
Lastly, the screen. It is very nice and smooth. The resolution is higher than SGS2 therefore making it very crisp. It is not AMOLED, however, so you will not have the vibrance and deep contrast of the AMO screens. Your blacks won't seem as black and your bright colors will not jump out of the screen at you like the AMO screen does. Once again this is somewhat of a personal preference but compared to the Samsung devices this may be the only slight disadvantage.
This phone has the best camera ever offered in a smart phone. It has as much or more computing power of any phone on the market. The device is very solid, it just feels high quality and it has all of the bells and whistles that any smart phone out now has including NFC. I can't imagine this phone not exceeding any expectation you would have for a smart phone, unless you need a phone with a battery that lasts several days between charges, then you my friend have un-realistic expectations. Ha!
In a nutshell..
Good -
Sharp and Bright screen. Blacks levels are ok light bleed makes it worse. Still better than GS2 screen because of sharpness and IMO color accuracy.
Very fast camera. Dedicated buttons for camera and camcorder. They also wake the phone which is a huge plus IMO.
Eye pleasing . White model looks great IMO. If this were a super light/thin phone itd be a no brainer.
Bad-
Just big , heavy, and Fn bulky. Simply doesnt feel as good as other phones in the hand.
Lack of support. I give nothing but credit for wonderful work by Xboarder and others but take a gander at GS2 forums , or when Galaxy Nexus drops there forum. I just dont expect this place to ever be buzzing with the number of great tweaks , enhancements , and features other phones may get. ICS ROMS will likely be on other phones much sooner than Amaze.
Galaxy Nexus and its HD screen are going to be available soon. Just something to consider. HD screens will be more prevalent and the Amaze fast camera and gorgeous screen wont be as impressive by weeks end.
Love my Amaze
I've had a Nexus One for over a year (prior to that it was a Droid). I've also used the original Galaxy phone as well as the Evo.
I've been waiting patiently for a Galaxy Nexus for months as a replacement for my Nexus One. After seeing the camera shots - which are identical in shot quality to the (poor) camera on my Nexus One, I knew I could not possibly get a Galaxy Nexus. For me, camera quality is very important, since my phone *IS* my point-and-shoot, and the Galaxy Nexus camera simply blows. So I gave up waiting to get a GN.
I went into the T-Mobile store to play with the GSII side by side with the Amaze. Both are very good. For me, I went with the Amaze.
1. Build quality, IMO, is top notch. Yes the phone is heavy. To me it has a really solid feel. It's like comparing a S300 Mercedes to a Fiat - both may actually provide similar reliability, but the Mercedes feels far better built.
2. The screen is excellent. I suspect the GN will be better, but side-by-side with the GSII the Amaze had the better screen IMO. The GSII's AMOLED "pops" more but the improved resolution on the Amaze made the real difference.
3. The camera on the Amaze took better photos, and I liked the software better. The flash is amazing for a camera phone.
4. Battery life has been a huge improvement over my N1/Cyanogenmod phone. In normal use I go all day easily without charging. If you aren't playing games or heavily using Maps, I suspect you'll never need to "top up."
5. Great network performance. I haven't benched the speed, but the network feels 3X faster than my N1.
6. The new Sense is much better than TouchWiz IMO.
I want to say this is some great quality feedback, definitely hit everything I asked then some. I have a multitude of reasons for wanting to upgrade from my vibrant besides the "oh, shiney!" factor. Not a huge fan of touchwhiz, poor gps performance, lack of updates, no camera button, etc.. The biggest issue I have right now is price, I'm not willing to go contract with tmobile, and I don't want to pay the current full price like I did with my vibrant-- so if anyone decides they want to get a different phone and knock a fair chunk off of their amaze to get rid of it, bookmark me(I'm looking at you deleriousbb!)
The best points for me I've read about so far:
picture quality, I do want a good camera in my phone since it is the device I have with me always, who knows how many pictures I've lost by not having a dedicated button too..
I forgot it DID have a NFC- that was the original thing I was looking for when looking for a phone, trying to find one that is a little more future proof, this phone being the only one that I could find with hardware specs that sounded good.
Hell, it even has FM radio, something I wish I had a few times now..
Heavy- I actually LIKE this, my vibrant felt far too light, I want to have a solid feeling phone, and if it can double as a brick to be used for self-defense-- so be it.
Overall this sounds like a phone worthy of upgrading to(I really want to make sure I am upgrading) from my vibrant, more or less future proof.. the only thing it doesn't have that I see in the near future is a quad core processor, and those only interest me because of the battery savings they are supposed to offer.
I don't know about the s-on thing someone mentioned, that locks the radio too? That would be the only downside I've seen so far, changing radios has been the way I get the best battery out of my phone thus far, but I suppose I can deal(and have something to research). I also don't know much about how the qHD led screen compares to the vibrant, I was looking forward to better battery life because I know amoled screens use more power than most and using black reduced that..
I guess the only question that didn't get answered is if there is a phone out or coming out that people wish they had held out for? I am not impressed by the galaxy nexus- no external sd, no camera button, lower mp camera(yes I understand better quality sensor), and a few other things.. but I am a hardware guy, and this phone is superior in specs, and the feedback makes me feel good about that.
Also, is there anyone who thinks they may be trying to sell their phone anytime soon? I see myself buying this used rather than going contract(I hate contracts), so I am going to have to wait till there is a price I like more..
Thanks again everyone for the great info, besides everything about the phone that sounded so great, it sounds like you guys are pretty friendly, supportive, and overall helpful!
Check out XDA's market there are some pretty cheap phones there. usually range about $400 for amaze. So you can sell your vibrant for iono $150? on CL and pay $250 more for an amaze.. on contract you already pay $200?
So anyways I actually have a gs2 in hand right now so i'll add some things, although it is similar to what manmythlegend said.
the gs2's connectivity is actually on par with the amaze. I would say amaze's gps is slightly faster but gs2's wifi connectivity is a bit stronger and has quicker connection time.
amaze's camera is better, GS2 appears to have more options on the camera and has their own scenes to choose from, BUT it does not compare to the amaze's scenes at all. BTW I love how the amaze's dedicated button works even when phone is locked.
Screen. the super amoled compared to the amaze's screen reminds me of mt4g good and bad displays. gs2 looks awesome when you view it from every angle. Amaze reminds me of an old LCD when you view from different angles the blacks become like gray. However, I hate how gs2 looks all stretched out and it's not as sharp. think iphone 2-3 vs iphone 4. Amaze is defintely more uhh pretty, its like the UI and icons actually pop out at you compared to gs2' where everything looks blended in a bit.
Another factor, I do not like gs2's blue tint when viewing websites or anything with a white background, it actually feels bad for my eyes. oh and amaze's color seems to be more true.
But remember this, Amaze's battery right now is SO SO, so if you're a heavy user make sure to carry a spare or your charger around.
This may seem like a bias review, but I'm actually pointing out what I normally use on a daily basis that the gs2 would not do for me as the amaze would.
keypoints
1. CAMERA (love amaze's camera and its scenes)
2. Web browsing or anything that has to do with a white background (XDA APP ahem), blue tint is no go for me..
3. base on user preference. I like the weight of the amaze. It tells me that my phone is in my pocket and that it's sturdy to carry around. The amaze's curve body makes it feels better in my hand.
There's something about the gs2 that just doesn't feel right. probably the width or depth of the phone, not exactly sure. I have about an average adult male size hands and the width of the phone might be the thing that is bothering me or that it's actually too thin that makes it feel weird, idk grip both phones, you'll see what i mean.
things that will bother you on the amaze:
the light bleed from the bottom (fixed with screen filter or other ways) and possibly the mediocre battery life.
GREAT GREAT reviews here. Just what I was looking for.
My G2 has some wear and tear and TMo said they would do an early upgrade where I could get the Amaze for $250. I went to the store and played with the Amaze, and it was a pretty nice looking phone at face value.
I, too, wanted to wait for the Galaxy Nexus to drop on TMo, but I despise Samsung. If I had to use Odin every time I flash, I'd be pissed. HTC is perfect for people who love to flash roms, and I am that guy.
Really thinking I should do this...only thing that had me thinking, was whoever said that development for this phone would be weak. xboarder is a BEASt, though - dude was in the G2 forum for a few months and had things going.
Should I do this?
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GREAT GREAT reviews here. Just what I was looking for.
My G2 has some wear and tear and TMo said they would do an early upgrade where I could get the Amaze for $250. I went to the store and played with the Amaze, and it was a pretty nice looking phone at face value.
I, too, wanted to wait for the Galaxy Nexus to drop on TMo, but I despise Samsung. If I had to use Odin every time I flash, I'd be pissed. HTC is perfect for people who love to flash roms, and I am that guy.
Really thinking I should do this...only thing that had me thinking, was whoever said that development for this phone would be weak. xboarder is a BEASt, though - dude was in the G2 forum for a few months and had things going.
Should I do this?
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the SGS2 uses CWM recovery to flash too, you only need odin to install the recovery, after that you're golden.
I'm testing out the sgs2 for the day, and i'll update my opinion on it by the end of the day... so far battery life is good, camera is definitely no comparison to amaze, camcorder seems better though. wifi and bt connectivity is definitely stronger and connection time is quicker on the sgs2. HD games, amaze is better (more details). anything with fonts/texts goes to amaze.
It does support NFC btw, and also AT&T 4G bands.
Screen resolution is great, and its better than the S-AMOLED of the SGSII (which has some discoloration issues it seems).
The SGSII S-AMOLED has a very bright and saturated screen so the colors are shot at you, but if you are a pro as I think you are, and not a "oh, shiny!" fella... You know that definition is better and more important than brightness.
Unless you don't care, then that's different.
4G on the phone is pretty fast, and so its installing apps.
The 1.5 dual-core does not score that high on quadrant as the SGSII (especially the Exynos) does, but you know that they are to be taken with grano salis, and in everyday usage its pretty fast.
Camera is amazing, period.
Video quality is great, but sound recording should be much better on a device like this.
The HTC phone itself however, does have downsides:
Reception (its fair, but not amazing).
Battery, with heavy usage on 4G, will last you few hours. On 2G, a bit more. Phone does get warm by the way. Its not something that should worry you, but it is bothersome when you are on the phone playing a video or what have ya, you get a phone call and have to talk to a distance of the device.
The worst aspect is the earpiece. It is UTTER TRASH. It literally silences itself when you talk, and will "turn on" when the other party speaks, however, when that occurs, it will "eat" the first few milliseconds and you will get a broken up phrase (from the other party), 99.9% of the times. Seems to be an HTC issue btw.
The touchscreen is tricky. It seems pretty responsive overall, but I did have doubts sometimes. But overall no big issues for me so far.
The phone also does have an heft. It doesn't seem that big a deal, until you place this 4.3" monster phone in your pocket. Its bothersome, at least to me.
Final words: I am trying to sell the HTC Amaze 4G. It is a great media device, but an horrible communication device. This solely depends on you. I have been using a BB 9700 for the past two years and I went back to it after 8 days of impossible phone calls with the Amaze, battery that lasts nothing (on the Amaze of course), and I personally suck and can't stand typing on screens. Sure, the Amaze thrashes my 9700 on so many levels, but for what I need, the 9700 does a far superior job than the Amaze.
Hope this helped.
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The worst aspect is the earpiece. It is UTTER TRASH. It literally silences itself when you talk, and will "turn on" when the other party speaks, however, when that occurs, it will "eat" the first few milliseconds and you will get a broken up phrase (from the other party), 99.9% of the times. Seems to be an HTC issue btw.
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Sounds like you have a defected phone or earpiece. From what I know the amaze doesn't come with an earpiece. I use my old mytouch 4g one and i do not get this issue. well good luck with your deals!
edit: that sounded sarcastic lol, I wasn't trying to be haha
The reception on my amaze is light years ahead of my old samsung galaxy s 4g. I would have one bar on the highway to town and the amaze has a full signal. (2g) just amazing.
The worst aspect is the earpiece. It is UTTER TRASH. It literally silences itself when you talk, and will "turn on" when the other party speaks, however, when that occurs, it will "eat" the first few milliseconds and you will get a broken up phrase (from the other party), 99.9% of the times. Seems to be an HTC issue btw.
I don't have this issue at all. It sounds to me (like someone else mentioned) like you have a defective Amaze.
Teo032 said:
Sounds like you have a defected phone or earpiece. From what I know the amaze doesn't come with an earpiece. I use my old mytouch 4g one and i do not get this issue. well good luck with your deals!
edit: that sounded sarcastic lol, I wasn't trying to be haha
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By earpiece I mean the speaker part.
FranzDages said:
The worst aspect is the earpiece. It is UTTER TRASH. It literally silences itself when you talk, and will "turn on" when the other party speaks, however, when that occurs, it will "eat" the first few milliseconds and you will get a broken up phrase (from the other party), 99.9% of the times. Seems to be an HTC issue btw.
I don't have this issue at all. It sounds to me (like someone else mentioned) like you have a defective Amaze.
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So, what do I do now? Can I go back to the store and try another one? And see if its defective or not?
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By earpiece I mean the speaker part.
So, what do I do now? Can I go back to the store and try another one? And see if its defective or not?
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You should have a minimum of 14 days to exchange it from where you purchased it. After that you might have to send it in to HTC for repair/replacement.
enserio said:
GREAT GREAT reviews here. Just what I was looking for.
My G2 has some wear and tear and TMo said they would do an early upgrade where I could get the Amaze for $250. I went to the store and played with the Amaze, and it was a pretty nice looking phone at face value.
I, too, wanted to wait for the Galaxy Nexus to drop on TMo, but I despise Samsung. If I had to use Odin every time I flash, I'd be pissed. HTC is perfect for people who love to flash roms, and I am that guy.
Really thinking I should do this...only thing that had me thinking, was whoever said that development for this phone would be weak. xboarder is a BEASt, though - dude was in the G2 forum for a few months and had things going.
Should I do this?
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You have obviously owned a Nexus S. We don't use Odin. Anyone who uses Odin on any Nexus (from Samsung) is a moron. Rooting and flashing recovery is all performed via fastboot and then make a clockwork backup like normal. The Galaxy Nexus will be the same way. All you need is fastboot.
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So, what do I do now? Can I go back to the store and try another one? And see if its defective or not?
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Yep if you can't exchange at store anymore then call Tmobile to do an exchange.
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14 days are now gone guys...
And when I went back and told them, they said that I had to pay $50 dollars... which I found ridiculous... So I didn't do anything apart from trying to sell the phone.
im thinking about buying this phone, i dont want to spend alot of money on smartphone and the atrix is pretty cheap for what he gives.
the motorola atrix worth buying?
he have any common problems?
thanks
Mine was pretty cheap, I got it for my birthday in october. I love it. The only common problem would be random reboots/sleep of deaths. There have been some "fixes" that work for people if you look around, but there are a fair amount of users who have had random reboot issues or sleep of death issues, including me. But I've managed to fix mine so I love love love the Atrix.
atrix 4g
For a cheap phone it is really good. My only complaint is the 5mp camera. To get its full potential you have to unlock the bootloader, root and install a custom rom. All the info can be found in the development section of this forum. Turls team cm7 is rock steady. I have just updated to jokersax11's cm9 and now the phone is awesome, the only thing missing is the camera does not work in this rom.
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Were having alpha ver. of IceCream Sandwich (CM9) ... there are better phones around atm but if you think Atrix fits you then I would say its not a bad choice.
You can still buy it because it is very nice.
I bought my atrix 2 weeks ago in germany and i can't complain. Ok actually the atrix wasn't my first choice but the price of the nexus s become very high in germany so i decided to get the atrix.
And it is still a very fast phone with a nice battery and the most important fact for me is that it only has a 4" display because I have small hands and a bigger display would be to big for me.
I am happy and i saved more than 100€ compared to other high end phones like the galaxy s II or galaxy nexus.
I vote to Buy.
If you plan on modding I'm sure your are.. Your here after all. I would buy one for 250 or less. I really like mine. There are so many roms to try now. It seems even though some phones are better this phone is really well supported by a big community. Breathing more life into a phone and taking it beyound its time. Im using the SuperOSr Rom and I really enjoy it tried maybe 6 or so others.
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Forgot to say the atrix has been a really reliable phone considering the amount if soft bricked it doing software flashes unsafely. I didn't know any better at the time. Not buggy like all my blackberries Ive had.
I think it is worth buying this phone, it's a lot cheaper then say a galaxy s2 and the galaxy is just a tad more powerfull, also there are some great custom roms and even a few (I think 3) ICS roms on the way!
Dont buy the atrix, buy a sensation a sgs2 or a o2x.
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Lol o2x is almost the same but less ram no webtop no finger print scanner and costs more.
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I am thinking about buying an Atrix and would like some input too.
Requirements are:
1. 4" Screen
2. Good battery life
3. ATT 3G Bands
4. Less that $400 on unlocked market
The phones I considered were the SE Arc, LG Optimus 2X, and Atrix 4G. Yes, I would love to own a Galaxy or Nexus phone but it is outside my price range. The Optimus 2X fell out because I cannot get it in ATT USA bands. So its the Arc vs the Atrix. Or did I miss another option?
yes - no problems
yes, it's worth it. I've had no problems with mine, the build quality is excellent on my device.
The 5mg camera is the only marginally disappointing thing but that alone would not tempt me to swap it for a SGSII.
good luck
K
bluntyeyedfool said:
yes, it's worth it. I've had no problems with mine, the build quality is excellent on my device.
The 5mg camera is the only marginally disappointing thing but that alone would not tempt me to swap it for a SGSII.
good luck
K
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How about the Atrix vs Nexus S?
Nexus S pluses: AMOLED, Better Camera, Better Battery life, NFC, Offical upgrade to ICS
Atrix pluses: Expandable Memory, HDMI, Faster CPU, FP Reader, 3.5G
Tough call.
You'll get what you pay for, imo. Best way to compare real market value is check ebay (BNIB on auction).
I'm sure ill be on gingerbread when similar phones will be on some next version of ics, not to mention that I got gingerbread after 6 months of purchase. I will never buy motorola android phone again, but that is just my personal experience.
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kzkalra said:
You'll get what you pay for, imo. Best way to compare real market value is check ebay (BNIB on auction).
I'm sure ill be on gingerbread when similar phones will be on some next version of ics, not to mention that I got gingerbread after 6 months of purchase. I will never buy motorola android phone again, but that is just my personal experience.
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I can't blame you either. I have always been a Motorola fan from the ROKR (not RAZR) line (anyone remember the Apple collaboration with Moto?) and I owned an E2. But I think it is poor on Motorola's part that the Defy is stuck on Froyo, while the pratically identical Defy+ got Gingerbread on launch. Motorola seems to be keeping certain brands going (Milestone/Droid, Defy, Atrix) so the should keep them updated as far as they can physically go.
Battery and ICS might sway me into getting the Nexus S but I do love the more powerful Atrix.
It's a great phone but the camera really kills it, other than that it's awesome.
I personally love my Atrix. The camera is a slight bit disappointing but it definitely makes it up with versatility and functionality. Just my opinion
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i choosed phone for about 1 year. because haven't more money, but i want a "power" phone, which can work for about 4 years without problem with hardware. i bought Atrix 4g. this is my first android phone, but it really nice for this price.
In the end of 2011 year i choose between atrix 4g, Defy+ and nexus prime. but nexus prime have bigger display, it is thinner than atrix, but have big price.
Defy+ is wonderfull, water resist, dust resist and any more... but haven't dual core, and only 512 ram.
resume (for me):
if i have more money i bought nexus prime, but i think that ideal phone can not cost more than $ 400 must have the hardware with a view of the future (1 year minimum). Should work just fine navigating large maps (map RUSSIA really great, and requires a lot of memory the laying of complex routes). Should be easily unlockable and be able to flash the android ICS (СM9 in my case). gave me a chance to practice in programming for Android.
Atrix gives me all these opportunities. Overclocking the CPU to 1.5GHz making foundation for the future, the performance he ahead of SGS2 and is not as great. Support for memory cards - I have no problems with the backup, you can always place another increase.
so that at the moment, I suggest taking Atrix 4g. But the choice is always yours.
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[...] But I've managed to fix mine so I love love love the Atrix.
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Wow! How can you fix your SoD problem in Atrix?
I tested a lot of radios, kernels and roms without sucess. Can you tell me?
Thanks
Other than having a slight less capable camera, I love the Atrix!
Something to also note (that I love) is that it has a qHD resolution 4" display, which means it's pixel density is much higher than most of the other Android phones.
KangPolice said:
never heard of SOD on atrix how are you getting one ... what are you using ?
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Do a little xda or google search to find a lot of SoD desperated users.
It's impossible to know what app (or kernel or rom etc) is the root cause, because many ones has many different configuration, use many differents apps etc.
My problem is more related to Data Connection, even 3G or Wifi. Every time I turn off a data connection my device get's SoD.
At now I'm testing LoadMonitor app as a SoD avoid app, and it make me happy. Let's do another test before advice them to other ones.
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Just looking for any ex infuse owners that went to the sgs2 to give me they're opinions.
Thanks
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Previous infuse owner. Get the sgs2. That is all.
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TOA Duck said:
Previous infuse owner. Get the sgs2. That is all.
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TOA Duck said:
Previous infuse owner. Get the sgs2. That is all.
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This. Infuse GPS/Wifi has nothing on ours.
TOA Duck said:
Previous infuse owner. Get the sgs2. That is all.
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Thanks for the replys so far. I know every opinion is different. But the dev dman has both and says the infuse is faster ...
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garbagecanman said:
Thanks for the replys so far. I know every opinion is different. But the dev dman has both and says the infuse is faster ...
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My experience with the Infuse in web browsers was very sluggish and choppy as well as home screens that use live wallpapers. I don't do much gaming on my android so can't say how that is. It's been some time so I'm not sure if this is accurate, but the battery life didn't seem nearly as good as my GS2 running Unnamed or SHOstock.
Edit: As I no longer have the phone (returned it within a month and went back to my 3gs to hold off until I got this) I cannot say if it still performs like this. I did root, flash, etc, so it wasn't just a stock experience.
tewan said:
My experience with the Infuse in web browsers was very sluggish and choppy as well as home screens that use live wallpapers. I don't do much gaming on my android so can't say how that is. It's been some time so I'm not sure if this is accurate, but the battery life didn't seem nearly as good as my GS2 running Unnamed or SHOstock.
Edit: As I no longer have the phone (returned it within a month and went back to my 3gs to hold off until I got this) I cannot say if it still performs like this. I did root, flash, etc, so it wasn't just a stock experience.
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Is your sgs2 oc or UV at all. What battery do u get. I'm 1.2 with custom rom and some uving and I get almost 2 days battery on good days otherwise a day easy.
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garbagecanman said:
Thanks for the replys so far. I know every opinion is different. But the dev dman has both and says the infuse is faster ...
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I strongly disagree.
garbagecanman said:
Is your sgs2 oc or UV at all. What battery do u get. I'm 1.2 with custom rom and some uving and I get almost 2 days battery on good days otherwise a day easy.
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I'm running SHOstock with Entropy's 12/08 DD, stock battery, not sure about the clocks but I believe they're stock as well. Normally access to a charger is readily available, so I don't bother conserving it as much as some others do (I leave my screen on for 20 minutes before I notice it and turn it off). Because of this, I generally get a day and a half out of it on average.
I can easily go 2 days without a charge if need be, I'd just turn the screen timeout back on to around 2 minutes or so. A while back before tweaking I barely squeezed 2d8h out of it, but now I'd be comfortable going 3 days if I really had to.
Edit: I also keep my bluetooth on, GPS on, and wifi off, data connection stays on and I generally get 2 to 3 bars out here. I have two Google accounts syncing everything except for Picasa. I also use Llama that does cell tower polling (among other things) to automatically change profiles (primarily for volume changes).
There are lots of ex-Infuse owners here. In fact, quite a few developers here are ex-Infuse.
gtg465x was on the Infuse and came here, MikeyMike01 came here for a while but then sold off all of his newer devices and went with an old Focus, I'm here.
From a developer's point of view, the GSII blows the Infuse out of the water. From a users' point of view, the difference isn't as obvious, other than that we have proper Gingerbread and the Infuse is still stuck with half-baked derivatives of the Rogers release. (AT&T leaks have improved things somewhat - but still stuff like MHL support is missing.)
Oh yeah - GPS on the GSII is a MASSIVE improvement compared to Infuse.
Given a choice between Infuse and GS2 both with contract subsidy - GS2 is a no-brainer. If it's a question of upgrading by paying full off-contract price - not so sure if it's worth it at this point. Better to wait for something else (International GS3 maybe?) or get a GNex.
Entropy512 said:
There are lots of ex-Infuse owners here. In fact, quite a few developers here are ex-Infuse.
gtg465x was on the Infuse and came here, MikeyMike01 came here for a while but then sold off all of his newer devices and went with an old Focus, I'm here.
From a developer's point of view, the GSII blows the Infuse out of the water. From a users' point of view, the difference isn't as obvious, other than that we have proper Gingerbread and the Infuse is still stuck with half-baked derivatives of the Rogers release. (AT&T leaks have improved things somewhat - but still stuff like MHL support is missing.)
Oh yeah - GPS on the GSII is a MASSIVE improvement compared to Infuse.
Given a choice between Infuse and GS2 both with contract subsidy - GS2 is a no-brainer. If it's a question of upgrading by paying full off-contract price - not so sure if it's worth it at this point. Better to wait for something else (International GS3 maybe?) or get a GNex.
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Thx entropy I know alot of u ex infuse devs are over here now. Alot to think about. My infuse has good bat life. GPS locks kinda slow but is fine for me when connected. And speed wise my single core is just as snappy as dual I would bet. But that's just my opinion as a user and I value your input as a dev.
Thanks
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Had the infuse for two Weeks. Made a ROM and wasn't happy with performance of device... Also had Atrix. Lg thrill 3d. brought infuse back and spent the extra 100 got gs2. Gs2 is better than all my phones for developing and use.
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Screen was bigger however quality is better on the SGS2. SGS2 is way faster, GPS is also a lot better (locks faster).
Camera I think is also better.
There is no question SGS2 is THE PHONE
Guti1977 said:
Screen was bigger however quality is better on the SGS2. SGS2 is way faster, GPS is also a lot better (locks faster).
Camera I think is also better.
There is no question SGS2 is THE PHONE
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Only difference is sgs2 cam does 1080p who hoo and they are identical screens no difference in quality? And I have a dslr for pics so camera on a phone doesn't mean anything really. For still or video. Its a phone.
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For me, even if not for the improvements in development and ability to leverage the I9100 community for development - the GPS was a MAJOR factor in deciding to keep the device and ditch the Infuse. (I was on the fence and was considering returning it after a month since it was such an expenditure.)
The Infuse GPS was OK, but not good enough for me to trust it - I would NEVER have relied on it for navigation in any tough environment such as a city or even an area with good signal but densely packed roads. The I777's GPS is good enough to replace all of my standalone GPS units except for the ones I use while hiking. (In fact, my parents now have my old trusty "Dealextreme Pirate Special" GPS.)
Entropy512 said:
There are lots of ex-Infuse owners here. In fact, quite a few developers here are ex-Infuse.
gtg465x was on the Infuse and came here, MikeyMike01 came here for a while but then sold off all of his newer devices and went with an old Focus, I'm here.
From a developer's point of view, the GSII blows the Infuse out of the water. From a users' point of view, the difference isn't as obvious, other than that we have proper Gingerbread and the Infuse is still stuck with half-baked derivatives of the Rogers release. (AT&T leaks have improved things somewhat - but still stuff like MHL support is missing.)
Oh yeah - GPS on the GSII is a MASSIVE improvement compared to Infuse.
Given a choice between Infuse and GS2 both with contract subsidy - GS2 is a no-brainer. If it's a question of upgrading by paying full off-contract price - not so sure if it's worth it at this point. Better to wait for something else (International GS3 maybe?) or get a GNex.
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Another good point
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Here is my take on the S2 vs Infuse
http://www.wix.com/thephoneguyusa/att-gs2/apps/blog/infuse-4g-vs-galaxy-s2-i-777
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thephoneguyusa said:
Here is my take on the S2 vs Infuse
http://www.wix.com/thephoneguyusa/att-gs2/apps/blog/infuse-4g-vs-galaxy-s2-i-777
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Nice write up. Decided for the sgs2 for my gf. Trading her iPhone 4(finally got her on the android wagon) . Kinda sad her first android is on paper a Beter phone than mine but I know my infuse will still hold it's own. I just wanted her to have something that's gonna have more value in the end like her iPhone which retains value. Unlike the infuse which value is only going down fast!
Thanks guys
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I have 2 of each, and besides the video playback being slightly smoother on the sgs2 I can't tell the difference. The infuse has CM7 as does the sgs2 which are both still KANGed. Maybe I can give a good comparison when they join the nightly...