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Quick question here, something that's puzzling me.
It might be because I'm just totally wrong, but our X10's have 384MB RAM correct?
Now, I thought I had heard before that Android 1.6 limited RAM to 256MB. Since the update, shouldn't I have around 100+ more free RAM than I had before, due to 2.1 allowing for the full 384?
For example, I would have about 110mb free at most times in 1.6, and with the same apps/widgets/etc running on 2.1, should I have around 210mb?
Answers appreciated
(P.S. anyone know why search never works for me on these forums???)
I'm not quite sure, but I remeber reading that it uses 256 mb of ram memory and the remaining is for the graphics.
I was wondering about that. Quadrant shows I have 280MB plus 128MB 'inactive'.
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Merkurio said:
I'm not quite sure, but I remeber reading that it uses 256 mb of ram memory and the remaining is for the graphics.
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That'd make sense, never really thought of that.
I'll have to read into it a bit more, I'm pretty new to Android so some of the more technical stuff is still unknown to me
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I've heard that you guys have folio100s with 512MB ram,
But mine has 1GB ram, dunno why....
now that I flashed Dexter's Mod foliomodv1.4,
which is a 512MBRAM version,
Now my OS cannot recognize all of my RAM, it just recognizes 751MB of the 1GB.
the data is gotten from typing 'free' in console mode.
what should I do to find the hidden part of my ram back to work?
I've tried CyanogenMod7, and it's worse, the ram decreases to exactly 512MB.
Thx to anyone who will help me with this!Sincerely!
How do you know there is really 1Gb ram in your folio ? Don't you think it's probably just a bug showing 1 gb intead of 512 mb?
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How do you know there is really 1Gb ram in your folio ? Don't you think it's probably just a bug showing 1 gb intead of 512 mb?
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it says so on the label at the back side beside the battery.
and when I'm on native rom the 'free' command shows 990MB free memory, and I always use up to 700+MB ram running all kinds of apps.
but however, as everybody knows, the native rom sucks.
so, is there a way I can adjust the foliomod to yield some more ram?
OK. I was a bit surprised and was thinking that it could be due to a bug.
Unfortunatly I have no answer to your problem.
Is this one of the new batch that was supposed to relaunch in April, or are you just lucky?
I have that label too that says my folio has 1gb ram, Bought my folio about 2 months ago?
How can i find out does it really have 1gb ram?
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theheat94 said:
I have that label too that says my folio has 1gb ram, Bought my folio about 2 months ago?
How can i find out does it really have 1gb ram?
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The native rom will tell you your total ram is 990MB. And you can experience great multitasking !
So, dude, wr are the minority, we should try to fix it, don't you think?
I bought my Folio a month ago and only have 512 Mb reported by Cyanogen.
Do someone know why there are some differences here ?
Mine has 512 mb ram, and 1gb for app installation.
Maybe the inscription in the box is 1gb of ram , for app.
If you really do have 1 gb of ram, lucky you
Ill check that out, ill post my results here then
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who would continue with this problem?
I am still confused, I recently have returned to the native rom and obtained the latest official update, it is really stable, with touchscreen responsive, though poor graphic performance(opengl1.1) and wrong direction of sensor in some games.
but the ram reported is the same as foliomodv1.4, that is, 751MB, don't you think it is interesting? it's like the DDR2 ram has 8 blocks with each 128MB, and foliomod has discovered only 6 of them, while Cyanogenmod discovered only 4 of them, that's why Cyanogenmod reports 482MB total ram.
in fact, seen from the dissembly pictures sent from a guy in China like me, there really are 8 similar blocks on the chipboard, with 128MB written on each block as the guy told.
So what do you think, guys? Is it possible to find the hidden memory blocks and get them to work? I think it is highly possible, for different roms report different total ram, and some of them well exceeds the assumed 512MB, that's an implication that some of the folio100 really are bestowed with 1GB ram, rather than 512MB. So why can't there be a rom that makes full use of the ram?
I believe we are the last group of Folio100 users inthe world, so we are gonna stick together to make the most out of our device, guess what, newly published devices mostly have the same hardware as our folio(I mean the 1GB version), except for the screen, but I don't see it as an unacceptable shortcoming. Lower resolution sometimes mean higher performance. I've tried Backbreaker THD running on MOTO XOOM, though the graphics are good, but as I expected it isn't so smooth as running on Folio100. So disadvantages come with advantages, that's why we'll stick to Folio100, at least Before Tegra3 becomes trivial.
Expecting replies from you !! In hope of a better rom and a better tomorrow!
Me too...
CM9/ICM , it just recognizes 512MB of the 1GB.(RAM)
But FolioNotion2.0 recognizes 1G.
I can't paly games like Plants vs Zombies in CM9/ICM ,But in FolioNotion,It works perfect....
I am still confused...
folio100---512M Rom
AS100---1G Rom
Xda Rom just dev for folio100... So,we are just recognizes 512M.
but FolioNotion have recognizes 1G,Why?
1GB with foliomod 1.4
as100 with 1gb ram,and a recently flashed ics rom changed it to 375mb.......those who r confused with the 1gb ram on folio can go to search the pics of disassembly of as100 in some chinese website, after u do that u could fing that there r 8 ram chips installed on the pcb while some of the folio may only have 4installed...
i checked now my folio,...
http://db.tt/dVei7u49 on the top on the right side, is a small sticker 1GB000
CM9 shows me 364M
Is there any way to test it on cm9?
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i checked now my folio,...
http://db.tt/dVei7u49 on the top on the right side, is a small sticker 1GB000
CM9 shows me 364M
Is there any way to test it on cm9?
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I have that sticker with 1GB000 as well, does that mean I have a 1 GB device?
DT84 said:
I have that sticker with 1GB000 as well, does that mean I have a 1 GB device?
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Maybe someone can test it with Ubuntu?
I have the sticker with 01GB000.
I checked the picture of the hardware (ref.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868617)
On one side there are 4 chip NT5TU128M8DE-AC that is a 128Mx8 DDR2-800
so 128M x 8 = 1Gbit and 4 x 1Gbit = 4Gbit = 512 Mbyte.
On the other side there is a place for additional RAM (see picture BILD2387)
If you have the chips in these place you have additional 512Mbyte of ram otherwise no.
To open this box you have to remove only the back cover and open the box with a cutter under the corner with the arrow.
In my case there aren't additional chips of RAM.
So the sticker 01G000 is not for RAM info.
Sorry.
Bye
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I have the sticker with 01GB000.
I checked the picture of the hardware (ref.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868617)
On one side there are 4 chip NT5TU128M8DE-AC that is a 128Mx8 DDR2-800
so 128M x 8 = 1Gbit and 4 x 1Gbit = 4Gbit = 512 Mbyte.
On the other side there is a place for additional RAM (see picture BILD2387)
If you have the chips in these place you have additional 512Mbyte of ram otherwise no.
To open this box you have to remove only the back cover and open the box with a cutter under the corner with the arrow.
In my case there aren't additional chips of RAM.
So the sticker 01G000 is not for RAM info.
Sorry.
Bye
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I've just checked and there's no extra RAM for me as well.
Thank you anyway for your explaination.
I also have the AS100 model with 1GB RAM. Does any one know how to modify ROM to detect all available RAM?
So, I just played with a friend's SGS 2 and when i looked into his App Manager, it would say he had 500-600 MB of free ram. Now, no matter how much I wipe or how many processes I kill, I cannot go over 450MB from the "1 GB" we are supposed to have.
I thought It was android reserving some RAM for himself but with this comparison it doesn't make sense anymore. Any recommendation on this? Might be because we have webtop running on background and SGS doesn't?
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So, I just played with a friend's SGS 2 and when i looked into his App Manager, it would say he had 500-600 MB of free ram. Now, no matter how much I wipe or how many processes I kill, I cannot go over 450MB from the "1 GB" we are supposed to have.
I thought It was android reserving some RAM for himself but with this comparison it doesn't make sense anymore. Any recommendation on this? Might be because we have webtop running on background and SGS doesn't?
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I usually have between 500 - 600 mb of RAM available... all depends on how many apps & process you have running.
Webtop does not run unless it is being used. As far as the difference in usage, I think Motoblur just uses more resources. I use Bloat Freezer and i can get up to 600MB free like when I reboot but then processes start up and it goes to about 500MB. Then I'll use it for awhile and it will get down to 200 to 300MB but never any less than 200
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So, I just played with a friend's SGS 2 and when i looked into his App Manager, it would say he had 500-600 MB of free ram. Now, no matter how much I wipe or how many processes I kill, I cannot go over 450MB from the "1 GB" we are supposed to have.
I thought It was android reserving some RAM for himself but with this comparison it doesn't make sense anymore. Any recommendation on this? Might be because we have webtop running on background and SGS doesn't?
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I don't have that many applications installed. And even so, the installed applications shouldn't be taking up RAM unless i run them, right?
I just did a restart and checked the RAM and it was just at 471 MB. I might mention that I'm using Go Launcher and the stock launcher is running also, because if I freeze it with Root Uninstaller, the calendar widget won't work.
Any guide on how to optimize RAM usage or what bloat should i freeze/uninstall?
using CM7, have around 400MB free out of 820 or so at any given point in time.
879mb of ram doesn't = 1gig. I would like to have that extra 120mb in free ram. instead of 600, 720 free. When I go into "About Phone" it used to say the current amount out of 879 but now it seems I've lost 100mb of ram. I've wiped/flashed/rebooted countless times to no avail. Even used Aura deblurred and CM7 with almost the same results.
On my phone it shows 471/816. Yes, would have loved to have that extra 208 MB of ram... But still Swiftks, could we have some info on your mods/apps? 600 MB of free ram is a LOT compared to what we have.
I have used ROMs that showed 575-620mb free but usually after rebooting. I'd say most ROMs will run from 400-500 free. But if you could, look on your phone under running apps and add up your used and free ram and post back.
I've heard that Go Launcher is a resource hog. Might want to try it without that just to see if there is any difference.
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I don't have that many applications installed. And even so, the installed applications shouldn't be taking up RAM unless i run them, right?
I just did a restart and checked the RAM and it was just at 471 MB. I might mention that I'm using Go Launcher and the stock launcher is running also, because if I freeze it with Root Uninstaller, the calendar widget won't work.
Any guide on how to optimize RAM usage or what bloat should i freeze/uninstall?
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There's a huge misconception about how much RAM should be free at any given time. Honestly, the less RAM being used is actually better. That means processes are cued up for multitasking and it uses less resources to start them back up when used. Also, if you have any RAM left then that means you don't need any more because the phone will only use what it needs so if you have like 100MB of Ram available then that means you don't need it, but if you were at like 10 to 20MB free then I'd worry. But most people say they have like 200 available so there really is no reason to worry/complain. Plus, it's better for the battery to have the processes stored in RAM because it takes more energy to start an app back up then to keep it idle.
Phoneguy589 said:
I have used ROMs that showed 575-620mb free but usually after rebooting. I'd say most ROMs will run from 400-500 free. But if you could, look on your phone under running apps and add up your used and free ram and post back.
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Here is a good article that explains much better how android works in regards to processes:
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
The "Addendum" at the end lays it out pretty bluntly
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There's a huge misconception about how much RAM should be free at any given time. Honestly, the less RAM being used is actually better. That means processes are cued up for multitasking and it uses less resources to start them back up when used. Also, if you have any RAM left then that means you don't need any more because the phone will only use what it needs so if you have like 100MB of Ram available then that means you don't need it, but if you were at like 10 to 20MB free then I'd worry. But most people say they have like 200 available so there really is no reason to worry/complain. Plus, it's better for the battery to have the processes stored in RAM because it takes more energy to start a app back up then to keep it idle.
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If I add up the mb's of apps running right now it's less than 90mb but its showing 190mb is being used. That is including the media/motorola/stock junk on a fresh install of ninja. I haven't even opened market or added my google account yet.
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There's a huge misconception about how much RAM should be free at any given time. Honestly, the less RAM being used is actually better. That means processes are cued up for multitasking and it uses less resources to start them back up when used. Also, if you have any RAM left then that means you don't need any more because the phone will only use what it needs so if you have like 100MB of Ram available then that means you don't need it, but if you were at like 10 to 20MB free then I'd worry. But most people say they have like 200 available so there really is no reason to worry/complain. Plus, it's better for the battery to have the processes stored in RAM because it takes more energy to start an app back up then to keep it idle.
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I understand your point, but it makes me wonder... Devices like SGS 1 for example, only have 512 MB ram. Based on how the Atrix and Galaxy S2 are said to have 1GB but in reality it only has 800ish MB, the SGS 1 will also have 400+.
Now, my atrix goes from boot to a usable state leaving me ONLY 471 MB of free ram, taking up 380+ (rounding numbers of course). Since the SGS 1 also runs on Android 2.3, the same thing should happen right? taking up 380MB out of it's 400+ MB of ram, leaving only 50 (rounding again) MB of RAM? Highly unlikely, if that was the case, only opening up the browser would take up those 50 "free" RAM.
I don't have a SGS with me to corroborate this theory but I'd bet the SGS starts up to a usuable state with 100-150 of free ram, using up only 250-300 MB of ram, why can't we pull that off from our devices?
It's not that I'm not against using the RAM on our devices, but only comparing how much RAM my device is using I can tell whether it's running efficiently or it has a resource Hog somewhere.
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If I add up the mb's of apps running right now it's less than 90mb but its showing 190mb is being used. That is including the media/motorola/stock junk on a fresh install of ninja. I haven't even opened market or added my google account yet.
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your phone is like a fat kid with a birthday cake. he's always going to take a few extra slices for himself and not share with anyone.
(system taking RAM and not sharing with any other processes)
I think it has to do with Motoblur using up more resources. It is so integrated into accounts and everything that it can't help but take up a bunch of RAM which is why they probably went with 1GB of RAM to begin with, they probably couldn't pull it off with just 512
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I understand your point, but it makes me wonder... Devices like SGS 1 for example, only have 512 MB ram. Based on how the Atrix and Galaxy S2 are said to have 1GB but in reality it only has 800ish MB, the SGS 1 will also have 400+.
Now, my atrix goes from boot to a usable state leaving me ONLY 471 MB of free ram, taking up 380+ (rounding numbers of course). Since the SGS 1 also runs on Android 2.3, the same thing should happen right? taking up 380MB out of it's 400+ MB of ram, leaving only 50 (rounding again) MB of RAM? Highly unlikely, if that was the case, only opening up the browser would take up those 50 "free" RAM.
I don't have a SGS with me to corroborate this theory but I'd bet the SGS starts up to a usuable state with 100-150 of free ram, using up only 250-300 MB of ram, why can't we pull that off from our devices?
It's not that I'm not against using the RAM on our devices, but only comparing how much RAM my device is using I can tell whether it's running efficiently or it has a resource Hog somewhere.
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So deblur is the way?
I use Bloat Freezer and the paid version of TiBu freezes apps too. I think there is a list of "safe" Blur apps to freeze somewhere. I'll see if I can find it.
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So deblur is the way?
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I found this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182663&highlight=apps+safe+to+freeze+list
But I'm sure there is an even more comprehensive list somewhere...
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I use Bloat Freezer and the paid version of TiBu freezes apps too. I think there is a list of "safe" Blur apps to freeze somewhere. I'll see if I can find it.
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great, thanks. Why do you use two freezers?
I don't, I just use Bloat Freezer. I was just pointing out that TiBu does it as well if you happened to have the paid version (which I don't).
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great, thanks. Why do you use two freezers?
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I have been so busy catching up with all the amazing stuff Da_G has been pumping out (thanks!) that I didn't even take a look at this until now. I am showing that we only have 733MB of avaliable RAM. That is a far cry from 1024MB.
I am seeing 733MB w/ both Android System Info and with the built-in Task Manager.
Does anyone know if we indeed have 1024MB of RAM and... if it is just assigned else where?
Yes we have 1GB every phone has RAM missing because the system is holding it.
I remember one time the OS didn't support that much not sure if that's the case now but the phone has 1GB to my knowledge and.what I've read
sent from AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note Dual Core 1.83 GHz
Just like memory... Do we really have 16gb? Its never what they say... All marketing!
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I have also read that is has 1GB everywhere, but missing 291MB seems like an awful lot.
I beleive my Atrix showed 897MB. I just seems like an awful lot 'mssing' w/ the Note.
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Just like memory... Do we really have 16gb? Its never what they say... All marketing!
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I am with you on that! Makes me
I noticed the same, it's showing short but using the same app(system tuner pro) on my G2 it showed the correct 512mb.
It's not false marketing; it's fact. There is 1GB of RAM in the phone. I'm pretty sure the rest of the RAM is used by the GPU. My GS2 has the same thing, shows about 800MB of RAM available to apps.
What does it matter? I usually have 3-500MB of free RAM. Have you ever managed to fill the RAM with processes? Do you know anyone who has? Android clears old apps from memory even when there is enough free so I have never even come close to filling my RAM.
Graphics memory
As with any computer your phone has a gpu which needs graphics memory and because the gpu is integrated (SOC) it takes its memory off the top. This can be seen with any computer you have with integrated graphics it will section off some memory for your gpu.
As for the flash memory space many issues can take it down such as the file system, operating system, it just depends but trust me before the phone was turned on and android installed it had 16gb of memory and 1gb of ram
I'm about 100% CPU and GPU can't share ram as they do completely different tasks. They could have just added the cram and the ram to get 1GB though... But otherwise, the missing ram is from system tasks and the OS.
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It's not false marketing; it's fact. There is 1GB of RAM in the phone. I'm pretty sure the rest of the RAM is used by the GPU. My GS2 has the same thing, shows about 800MB of RAM available to apps.
What does it matter? I usually have 3-500MB of free RAM. Have you ever managed to fill the RAM with processes? Do you know anyone who has? Android clears old apps from memory even when there is enough free so I have never even come close to filling my RAM.
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Do we have a reference or any proof of this?
And to the post directly above this, any computer that does not have a dedicated graphics card uses shared system memory, just like our phones. 733MB is just quite a bit away from 1024MB.
they can and do use the same memory because they are the same soc aka system on chip. all this is integrated.
So if you built a PC yourself and loaded it with 2gig RAM and booted into windows it would have 2 gig FREE memory?
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So if you built a PC yourself and loaded it with 2gig RAM and booted into windows it would have 2 gig FREE memory?
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I am not talking about FREE. I am talking about the system as a whole. Do we really have 1GB of RAM? Where it is being used I am not so concerned about at this point, but it may help us figure out if we do indeed have 1GB (Where is the remaing 291MB assigned).
The missing 291 is being used by android..to load the launcher Widgets and everything else in the background.
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The missing 291 is being used by android..to load the launcher Widgets and everything else in the background.
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i have international version of note.its same way on this one.the missing ram is held by system tasks.as for 16gb storage memory.if you wipe all area on usb storage .u will have 16gb but not a working phone.another thing about free ram.dont use task manager to stop apps.all it does is make the phone lag.leave everything running.
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It's not false marketing; it's fact. There is 1GB of RAM in the phone. I'm pretty sure the rest of the RAM is used by the GPU. My GS2 has the same thing, shows about 800MB of RAM available to apps.
What does it matter? I usually have 3-500MB of free RAM. Have you ever managed to fill the RAM with processes? Do you know anyone who has? Android clears old apps from memory even when there is enough free so I have never even come close to filling my RAM.
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You have 300-500 MB FREE ram? My note is bone stock and I'm running at 400/700 MB RAM (meaning 300 MB free). This is also when I "Clear memory" too. Something wrong with my apps?
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You have 300-500 MB FREE ram? My note is bone stock and I'm running at 400/700 MB RAM (meaning 300 MB free). This is also when I "Clear memory" too. Something wrong with my apps?
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I have 700 free. With just 2 home screens 2 Widgets and a few apps and live wallpaper.
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Two dozen open apps on mine right now, and it shows 283 MB used, 302 MB free.
On my AT&T gs2 I consistantly show 830 to 850 MB free. On my note I only see a lil over 700. How can this have less ram than my gs2? I have over 80 app on my gs2 and less than half that on my note!!!
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Probably xtra things (like snote )loaded on note that wouldn't be on your s2
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hello guys, bought this phone a week ago and its a sg3 16 GB. However it shows 11522.3 MB in system info , and about the ram it shows 833 MB. Is it something wrong with my phone or is this normal??
I Checked my system information through antutu
yes thats normal.
mine has the same
perfectly normal
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hello guys, bought this phone a week ago and its a sg3 16 GB. However it shows 11522.3 MB in system info , and about the ram it shows 833 MB. Is it something wrong with my phone or is this normal??
I Checked my system information through antutu
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That's normal. Android OS utilizes the RAM, so that's why the count is less. It's the same thing with the internal memory. Your apps, data and other files utilize the space.
Yeah normal of course
If you updated to 4.1.2, there will be only 832 MB of RAM
lost 1MB
Lola
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