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Hope I'm not being sacrilegeous, but is it possible? I've always admired the platform, but the lack of apps always held me back from trying it.
Any possibility we could get WebOS running on the G tab?
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Because if number of available apps is the problem, WebOS is clearly the answer.
Thanks for the laugh.
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Because if number of available apps is the problem, WebOS is clearly the answer.
Thanks for the laugh.
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the lack of apps is whats kept him from trying Web OS (ie: buying a web os device) however hes interested in trying out the platform if he could get it running on his gtab.
but you clearly didn't pick that up and made an ass of yourself.
You're right (on both counts).
Not the first or last time I make an ass of myself on the internet.
I doubt it, but it would be awesome. WebOS is a stunningly beautiful OS. I love the way it looks, feels, and works. To me, it's up there with android in the multitasking department and surpasses it in design (though honeycomb is getting close). I had a pre for about 6 months and sometimes miss some of the things it did. That being said, as of june 2010, it was buggy as all get out and the app store was severly lacking.
I second the request for someone to look into this though, as it would be a lot of fun to play with.
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You're right (on both counts).
Not the first or last time I make an ass of myself on the internet.
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Hey, at least you owned up to it
I bought a Palm Pre the day it was released, I thought WebOS was pretty damn awesome, but they released it on hardware of the worst quality (my Pre oreo'd like a mofo, and the touchscreen stopped working 9 months in). That and the fact that they didn't license it out like Android pretty much doomed it from the start.
Nice to see HP giving it a go, and #2 tablet world is wide open at the moment, but I wouldn't choose it over Android. Would be fun to play with though.
CPU is probably the big obstacle - anyone know what WebOS is compiled for? I actually know very little about the device.
If, for example, the hardware was ARM based then it's in the realm of possibility.
EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webos. hmmm, ARM-based and Linux based. Interesting.....
roebeet said:
CPU is probably the big obstacle - anyone know what WebOS is compiled for? I actually know very little about the device.
If, for example, the hardware was ARM based then it's in the realm of possibility.
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original pre was an omap processor, not sure if that is arm or not. I think texas instruments was the manufacturer
Btw I thought of this after reading about all the work done on the HTC HD2 and and HD7 running both Windows x.x and Android concurrently. Android Central recently had an article about WebOS 3.0 where they said it is starting to look mighty impressive.
I've always enjoyed Android and how customizable it is, but have enjoyed the UI from WebOS (one of my cousin owned a Pre).
Btw I enjoy using all platforms, I've been on Windows, OS X, and Ubunut for desktops and laptops, and for Smartphones I've used WM 6 (and prior), Blackberry, iOS, and Android. I tend to go with the one that suits my needs/wants best. Now that tablets are starting to be on the rise, I haven't set in stone which one I prefer yet. I picked up a Gtab from Woot knowing that there is a strong community of modders in addition to some solid internal hardware and specs.
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I know nothing about the programming side, but if we could get the ball rolling on this, I'm ready and willing to use my time and hardware for testing.
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Web os is now open source.
Anyone interested
Ubunut!
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..., and Ubunut ...
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LOL! Is this the name for an Ubuntu fanatic?
Well guys i have been using this TP for about 2 weeks (I bought the 32GB with touchstone at the firesale price) and I must say its bad ass! Personally I think its a nice looking tablet and it feels good in the hand. It may not be the lightest but I personally dont really notice it " fituging my hand". Now let me say I have been using "Palm" for years and think WebOS is by far the best OS with the worst people behind it... but I digress. After the original Pri and all the promises "Palm" made about new hardware just to keep the loyal customers waiting I dropped them. I am now a loyal android user and am using my romed Epic 4g with no problems (waiting for that Galaxy S 2 to drop).
So after putting my TP to 1.5ghz this thing is an amazing tablet and as far as specs go there is not many duel care 1.5ghz 1gb or ram having tablets out there. Plus the GPU is pretty amazing (and I dont think we have even started to utilize it yet). So for 150 bucks I think I got a good deal. If they where to put honeycomb on it this thing would rock (not that I like HC more the WebOS but all the apps really make it worthwhile). Now my favorite thing by far is the Touchstone, I fell in love with it with the Pri and missed it with every phone since. Why no one else has "copied" it is beyond me (yea there is Power matt but its not even close). It is amazing, not only does it "look cool" but its nice to just set the phone/tablet down and not have to find cords to hook up. The feel of tablet of smooth and I really like it.. even better then the Xoom or Ipad2 (yes I have had both). But one of the best features is the "Beats Audio" speakers. This tablet really sounds amazing compared to any other tablet.
So I just wanted to share ... Thanks for reading.
[DISCUSSION] webOS - A Rock to be polished into a Diamond
I'm a cappy and touchpad owner. I don't feel the hype of android on touchpad. You guys take all that effort and money to make WebOs better. There are a handfull of tablets with android around but there's only one with WebOs. Isn't that unique. Make those hours count on something special, not on something
more of the same. Still, I love Android!
loro1575 said:
I'm a cappy and touchpad owner. I don't feel the hype of android on touchpad. You guys take all that effort and money to make WebOs better. There are a handfull of tablets with android around but there's only one with WebOs. Isn't that unique. Make those hours count on something special, not on something
more of the same. Still, I love Android!
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I also managed to get a stupidly cheap touchpad and I have to say, I really don't know why webOS has been taking such a beating. Ok, the app support is very limited but I really like it, ok i've OC'd and tweaked a little but im more than happy with its performance. The only thing that I am missing is VNC and yes I know there is a VNC app in preware but it doesnt work on the touchpad, certainly not without a hardware keyboard anyway.
There are several website sites that just don't work on any of the android browsers I've tried but the touchpad handles them flawlessly. I have skype video which I can't get on Android either.
I'll be keeping webOS unless two things happen...
1) Android is available as a dual boot solution
2) There is no performance loss running Android
I feel the hype, but I'm not sure why...
I have a nook color that I ported to android. Yes, I understand that it does not even come close to the hardware in the touchpad but webOS is so much more fluid than gingerbread.
I really do miss all the available apps for android but also really like how webOS handles certain things, very easy to learn. Might have to hold out converting my touchpad over until they get honeycomb.
Wish some devs would put their effort into making apps for the touchpad. With so many sold, there is a good market there. I am willing to pay for apps, I think many people are, but really, there are no good ones right now.
Things the touchpad needs:
FTP client
Be able to connect to ad hoc networks (for tethering) my rooted OG droid only supports ad hoc for tether
Better Browser (firefox!) i'd even settle for an xscope or dolphin port! The browser is surprisingly severely lacking
There are so many more apps I could use but would settle for the above.
This probably isn't the right sub-forum, but I kind of agree. I also have a Nook Color with CM7 and am loving the slickness WebOS. The lack of apps is disappointing, but on the other hand a lot of Android apps are nothing impressive. I'm really not sure if I would put Android on the Touchpad if/when it's easily available (of course, I already have two other Android devices at home).
Like the above, ad hoc networking, some browser options or plugins, and personally a better PDF reader would be great (ezPDF on Android is nice), along with others. Hopefully since the market has grown from the fire sale, some devs will write or port more apps.
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The lack of apps is disappointing, but on the other hand a lot of Android apps are nothing impressive.
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There are far too many pointless apps out there both in the android market place and the store for that "i-thingy" that people are always harping on about
My needs are simple...
1) A web browser that works and has decent flash support - Check
2) Skype Video - Check
3) SSH Client - Check
4) VNC Client - FAIL
5) Occasional HD video playing (Kinda check)
I'm really hoping that a proper VNC client is developed, then I can forget about android.
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I also managed to get a stupidly cheap touchpad and I have to say, I really don't know why webOS has been taking such a beating. Ok, the app support is very limited but I really like it, ok i've OC'd and tweaked a little but im more than happy with its performance. The only thing that I am missing is VNC and yes I know there is a VNC app in preware but it doesnt work on the touchpad, certainly not without a hardware keyboard anyway.
There are several website sites that just don't work on any of the android browsers I've tried but the touchpad handles them flawlessly. I have skype video which I can't get on Android either.
I'll be keeping webOS unless two things happen...
1) Android is available as a dual boot solution
2) There is no performance loss running Android
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I agree with you guys that WebOs isn't that bad... However, I am going to port Android on mine for sure. The problem is the severe lack of apps. Developers are not going to want to develop for it since the Touchpads are dead. Yes they sold a crap ton of them in a matter of days but who wants to develop for an Os that will most likely be dead in a matter of years.
Something I would really like to see is a split keyboard like Thumb Keyboard or Swifkey Tablet. And Ad-Hoc Support would be nice too.
That's just my 2 cents.
Well my problem is that the SSL web login for my university wifi doesn't even work on the touchpad, which pretty much deem the tablet useless.
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I dunno if you knew about this, but WebOS natively supports USB-Host accessories. Look at that video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXRcvN50-nU (i am not the author, and not even an owner of touchpad yet)
it's on russian, but you can get the main idea: without any modifications, using microusb host cable and powered hub you can attach any USB KB to TP.
I have to say I agree with the OP in some sense. I'm an avid Android fan and I was once an avid windows mobile fan. WebOS seems like the marrying of Android, with its openness, and iOS, with its idiot proofness. I am excited about a dual boot but to be honest i won't see myself using android much on this tablet. I'm liking webOS more and more everyday.
i would actually want webOS with a sort of android app emulator if the apps is what you're after....otherwise i'm pretty happy with it, just wish someone would optimise the OS cuz i'm sure there's a lot of room for improvement
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I have to say I agree with the OP in some sense. I'm an avid Android fan and I was once an avid windows mobile fan. WebOS seems like the marrying of Android, with its openness, and iOS, with its idiot proofness. I am excited about a dual boot but to be honest i won't see myself using android much on this tablet. I'm liking webOS more and more everyday.
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I couldn't agree more, with the Touchpad updated to 3.0.2, overclocked to 1.8ghz on both cores and all the tweaks installed, it's a pretty good OS. I was looking ofrward to Android, now I think I'll stick with WebOS, or at most Dual-Boot, though as we've seen before, Android 2.3 doesn't work that fantastically on a tablet anyway...
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i would actually want webOS with a sort of android app emulator if the apps is what you're after....otherwise i'm pretty happy with it, just wish someone would optimise the OS cuz i'm sure there's a lot of room for improvement
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Did you load preware and overclock that helps smooth out the os quite a bit
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For me the 1990's era stock browser is the only major problem in the otherwise outstanding OS. I don't understand the logic of using such a basic featureless browser for such a critical aspect of the device.
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For me the 1990's era stock browser is the only major problem in the otherwise outstanding OS. I don't understand the logic of using such a basic featureless browser for such a critical aspect of the device.
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Yep. The awful browser and no alternatives is what makes webOS useless for me. Love the concept of the OS, but damn is it buggy. Have to reboot mine twice a day because the sound stops working. Haven't rebooted my iPad in over 3 months.
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I dunno if you knew about this, but WebOS natively supports USB-Host accessories. Look at that video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXRcvN50-nU (i am not the author, and not even an owner of touchpad yet)
it's on russian, but you can get the main idea: without any modifications, using microusb host cable and powered hub you can attach any USB KB to TP.
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Tried this with my USB Host cable I have for my Xoom and it doesn't work. It does however work beautifully on my Xoom .
Is there something I have to load on the Touchpad for it to Work?
muyoso said:
Yep. The awful browser and no alternatives is what makes webOS useless for me. Love the concept of the OS, but damn is it buggy. Have to reboot mine twice a day because the sound stops working. Haven't rebooted my iPad in over 3 months.
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I don't understand how people are saying the browser is awful? Maybe I just haven't experienced the issues people are having. It loads fast, it renders the internet just as a desktop would, flash works flawlessly. This is by far the best web browsing experience i've ever had. The only other thing i would want is tabs and a search function. I know advanced browser has this but advanced browser is super buggy.
I think webos can be a real competitor to the ipad, but many of the blogs I've watched seem to downplay the touchpad. I think a lot of people fear the touchpad is taking all the attention away from other tablets and gadgets. I've seen lots of hope with the Amazon tablet, but if HP comes back with another round of $99 touchpads all other tablets will be sitting on their butts.
It cannot be said enough, webOS is the most complete and most functional multitasking mobile OS out there. My wife has been a webOS fan and we just got 2 Touchpads and we love them, so do our kids. The ONLY thing missing are some key apps (Netflix, Googles) or this pad would be unbeatable which it almost is right now.
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I don't understand how people are saying the browser is awful? Maybe I just haven't experienced the issues people are having. It loads fast, it renders the internet just as a desktop would, flash works flawlessly. This is by far the best web browsing experience i've ever had. The only other thing i would want is tabs and a search function. I know advanced browser has this but advanced browser is super buggy.
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Ive posted about it elsewhere so I'll make it short. Doesn't render pages right. Glitches text rendering sometimes. No background downloading in background cards. Multiple cards open leads to the browser never re-sharpening the text when switching between them occasionally (25% of the time prob) until you close the card and reopen a new one. No search in page. Barely any customization. Slower than my Epic4g and iPad 1 at rendering and downloading webpages.
Flash works alright though. I don't really get what there is to like about the browser. It would be awesome if I didn't have an iPad or android phone to compare it to I guess.
I just made a video. Loading engadget. Single core 800mhz Ipad 1 on the left, Dual core 1.5ghz overclocked Touchpad on the right. iPad is using Safari and loading with ads and all and Touchpad has flash OFF and is using an ad blocker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCmUyADNN4w
Pathetic performance by the Touchpad frankly.
Like the title says, how happy are you with your Touchpad?
I'm asking because I want a tablet and had made up my mind that I was going to get the Transformer Prime. However I'm now considering getting a Touchpad refurbished from ebay tomorrow. I know the prime has a quad core processor with a better gpu but I'm wondering if the Touchpad will do what I want.
I want a tablet for Internet browsing, play some games, read (I read a lot) and also possibly use at work.
I am a concierge at a resort so if I use it at work I will need to be able to take people's info (name, number, etc) so I can call a show/resteraunt and make reservations. I would also need to be able to show pictures of seating charts to show them where they will be sitting. I need to be able to switch between their info and the pictures quickly.
Does it sound like the Touchpad will do what I want or should I hold out for the prime?
Also does a capacitive stylus work with the Touchpad to take hand written notes?
If I get the Touchpad I will most likely be putting cm7/cm9 on it.
Novarider said:
Like the title says, how happy are you with your Touchpad?
I'm asking because I want a tablet and had made up my mind that I was going to get the Transformer Prime. However I'm now considering getting a Touchpad refurbished from ebay tomorrow. I know the prime has a quad core processor with a better gpu but I'm wondering if the Touchpad will do what I want.
I want a tablet for Internet browsing, play some games, read (I read a lot) and also possibly use at work.
I am a concierge at a resort so if I use it at work I will need to be able to take people's info (name, number, etc) so I can call a show/resteraunt and make reservations. I would also need to be able to show pictures of seating charts to show them where they will be sitting. I need to be able to switch between their info and the pictures quickly.
Does it sound like the Touchpad will do what I want or should I hold out for the prime?
Also does a capacitive stylus work with the Touchpad to take hand written notes?
If I get the Touchpad I will most likely be putting cm7/cm9 on it.
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For work purposes hp and android is not a good move. It's not native and will continue to be buggy. Hate to say it because I love my tp, but when it comes to work, I would use webos or another android device. Webos may be limited to what you want to accomplish too.
Do some heavy research on android/webOS/ipad reviews. They all do great things in their own right.
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the touchpad will do everything you need it to do (I can't speak for the stylus) if you put on cm7 I suggest getting the 32gig for sure as cm7 takes up roughly 2 gigs. But with webos becoming open source the touchpad will only get better. Personally I find the touchpad relaxing. Its is isn't so overdone so everything works the way it should, switching between apps is very pleasant, there isn't much customization but sometimes that's overrated anyway. I have a phone and computer to customize, I've found that I want my tablet to just work. And the touchpad works better than the iPad I feel. Android works great on it, so you will have that choice if you want. Honestly, for the price, you can't beat it, quad core is just ridiculously unneeded for what you said you'd use your tablet for. Also, I enjoy the virtual keyboard on the touchpad.
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I don't want an ipad they are to locked down for my taste(I had an iphone) Iproducts are to overrated Imo and are more like a fad. Plus if I'm going to spend $450+ I will just get the prime.
I'm thinking about getting the Touchpad and if it won't work the way I want it to I will just give it to my wife to play with and I will get the prime.
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the touchpad will do everything you need it to do (I can't speak for the stylus) if you put on cm7 I suggest getting the 32gig for sure as cm7 takes up roughly 2 gigs. But with webos becoming open source the touchpad will only get better. Personally I find the touchpad relaxing. Its is isn't so overdone so everything works the way it should, switching between apps is very pleasant, there isn't much customization but sometimes that's overrated anyway. I have a phone and computer to customize, I've found that I want my tablet to just work. And the touchpad works better than the iPad I feel. Android works great on it, so you will have that choice if you want. Honestly, for the price, you can't beat it, quad core is just ridiculously unneeded for what you said you'd use your tablet for. Also, I enjoy the virtual keyboard on the touchpad.
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Do you use cm7 or webos on your Touchpad?
Can cm7 overclock BOTH cores to 1.7ghz like webos can?
yes, you can overclock
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I agree with many of the comments.
As you are describing your use the TouchPad should work. I have not used a stylus myself, but I am fairly certain they will work with any capacitive screen, so they should work on the TouchPad. There is a whole thread on styluses in the accessory forum.
I also felt CM7 is buggy. I prefer webOS myself. The app switching, and multi-tasking is so much more intuitive in webOS. It's logical and elegant. Gingerbread does not multi-task in a easy to use way. I have not used Honeycomb, so I cannot speak to that. I think CM9 on the TouchPad will make this device a halo device. webOS just feels like it was designed with tablets in mind, ginderbread does not.
If you buy a TouchPad for $99, and the accessory pack for $79, you will have a stand to set it on (Touchstone charger), a keyboard, and a great case. Its like having a netbook that you never have to plug in or unplug.
If you get one on Sunday and don't like it, and your wife doesn't like it (both unlikely) your worst case scenario is that you sell it, double your money (at least), and use that to buy the prime.
I think if you buy it without any pre-conceived stereotypes, you will find your self pleasantly surprised and very happy with it. You really have nothing to lose if you buy it.
I love my Touchpad although I do miss the "cards" from WebOS. I know that during the first couple of days after I switched to Android I'd hit the home button and expect my app to go into a card instead of just going back to the home screen. I also ended up heavily modifying Android when I initially installed it on the Touchpad which slowed it down to the point where when I switched back to WebOS for something the increase in responsiveness and the fluidity of the OS really made me wonder whether I should stick with WebOS for the entirity of my ownership of the Touchpad ... but then the lack of the apps really started wearing on me and went back to Android with the knowledge of making slight modifications instead of trying to make it look exactly like ICS.
I say dual boot the touchpad-
For work, it sounds like webos is enough.
For home, android is fun
You can dual boot the touchpad? Hmmmmm. Sounds like I need the 32gb version!
As far as I know, right now webOS doesn't support handwriting input. Everything else should work for you. Hit Precentral, and add a few patches or mods, and you should be set.
Also, in a few months, there should be some major changes to webOS, once the source is given a repository.
Sent from my very "non-stock" TP.
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You can dual boot the touchpad? Hmmmmm. Sounds like I need the 32gb version!
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Right now dual boot is the only way, you cannot remove webOS. The 16 is plenty, after installing both I have like 13GB left.
I have no complaints with the touchpad at all. I still find myself recommending it to people as a tablet to buy for $ value (even used or on craigs/ebay etc).
looking forward to putting the Android on it within the next week once I find some free time.
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Right now dual boot is the only way, you cannot remove webOS. The 16 is plenty, after installing both I have like 13GB left.
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You can boot into either os you want? Like its an option?
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You can boot into either os you want? Like its an option?
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Yes. There is a boot menu upon powering on and you can select which one you want to boot from. If you don't select anything in 5 seconds, it automatically boots Android (Can be changed).
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You can boot into either os you want? Like its an option?
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Every reboot
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I changed mine to default to webOS instead on Android. I prefer webOS for most tasks, but every once in a while I will switch back. There is a reboot to webOS option in the power menu, but in my experience it just shuts it down.
I hope the ICS implementation is the same. Its nice knowing you have a backup OS, but with ICS I think I will make ICS my default.
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Yeah, you can't actually get away from webos on the touchpad, cm7 is still in alpha testing so destroying webos would be a mistake, the deva set jr up to dualboot and its actually a really simple process, I just followed a YouTube video.
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does android drop?
I had a Toshiba Folio 100 and after 1 or 2 hours of work Gingerbread used to get stuck i had to restart... same with honeycomb... but i guess that was a RAM thing...
what about touchpad? - do you need to restart it and if yes - how many times a day or on what hourly basis?
Just got a Touchpad for Christmas today, and got it completely set up, with Preware, Xronified, and a lot of other stuff. So, I wanted to know, which OS do you people here use more, Android or WebOS?
Personally, I feel like WebOS' interface is way more polished. The multitasking is great, it feels smooth, and it's very user friendly. I've been using Android for a while, and it's a lot more powerful, but I just don't like it as much. Perhaps my opinion will change over time, but on the first day, I love me some WebOS.
It's a pity HP completely messed up the launch. I mean, for the same price, no one would take this over the iPad. Perhaps if it launched at $399, like the Transformer, it would have seen some success. Then again, we probably wouldn't have this Android community.
I just could not use webOS.
The browser stunk and there were no alternatives, and no free game to keep the kids occupied.
No netflix to keep the wife occupied.
I had to change it to android.
I am in the same boat. I like the feel and polish to the WebOS operating system. However the lack of apps compared to android makes it tough to stick with.
Alpha 3.5. WebOS is dead to me.
I agree. I love the webOS interface and would take it any day over Android. However, the lack of apps in webOS just keeps drawing me back over to Android.
I like webOS better than Android 2.3. I don't like the scaled phone apps. If I am going to experience occasional bugs, and freezes, I don't want to do it with a phone OS.
If there was a honeycomb (unlikely) or ICS (coming along) build I would probably switch, even if its buggy.
WebOS feels more intuitive and more stable to me. I like the stock browser better than any android browser I can find.
Yes, there are only a few tablet apps for the TouchPad webOS, but there are zero gingerbread tablet optimized apps. I don't really use many apps. I like the Facebook in webOS, that's about it. Almost all other use is in the browser. Its got native flash support, and seems to render fairly well most of the time.
I do currently have Android on my TouchPad for the kids. The apps for the kids don't need to be tablet optimized, scaled drawing games and such are okay. Also Netflix doesn't work in webOS, no app and won't work in the browser.
I also agree that the TouchPad doesn't have to be dead. At $399, or if they at least marketed it. Put out some serious advertising. The Galaxy Tab and Xoom are selling (some) at the same price at the iPad. HP was supposed to be the cash behind the deal to make it work. They didn't even try, and gave up too quick. Maybe if Apple had sued them for making a big iPhone 3G, they would be more successful, as the lawsuit has made Galaxy Tab a household name.
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I use both. I use webos because of the multi tasking ability. I am not a big gamer (I have 5 games for android and 3 for webos) but there is no android email app out there as good as the email for webos. As I use several accounts both business and personnel, webos is much easier to use for all my email contacts. The on screen keyboard for webos is more refined and allows me to touch type as fast as I like with no dropped keys. The android keyboards I have used are lacking and drop keystrokes constantly. I have tried swiftkey, hackers kbd, ect... and none of them are as smooth as the webos keyboard. I stream tv and movies to the touchpad using flood HD for webos and it is quite good.
As for android, currently have the xron b2.7 mod of cyanogen installed and must admit it is nice. There are many apps for most anything I could want but still there are occasional issues with apps force closing and wifi dropping off. I don't mind those issues as I realize the build is still basically an alpha and will improve with time. Overall, both operating systems have their strong points so I use them both.
I have been working on developing apps within the preware community and android is still difficult for me to work with from a developers point of view. I am sure it will grow on me over time and webos's days are surely numbered. Still I have a tablet that is able to boot two very good operating systems and function well so I am content for now.
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Sold my iPad for an Acer Iconia A500...hated the ipad. Picked up the 32 gig Touchpad during firesale. Used it ever since. WebOS is better than android or iOS period. I have android installed on the TP, but almost never boot into it. Sold the Iconia.
HP blew it. This tablet could have been a world beater if they tried. Oh well, my gain ;-)
Alpha 3.5. I love some things in WebOS, things that even CyanogenMOD lacks, real multitasking, for example, and gestures (as far as i can understand, you'll need to press those annoying back-home-menu buttons even in ICS, while in WebOS it's much simplyer and, err, comfortablier). But total slowness and the absolute lack of software are making the OS useless. Well, there is also a thing that WebOS could do, and Android couldn't - HD .mkv videos with hardware decoding. The only player on Android that could do that doesn't currently work on TP. But i can live without video.
How is webOS slow? I keep hearing that, but never see it. My tp is snappy. Better than either my iPad or Iconia. I just don't understand why people feel that way. As for apps, nothing I need or use is lacking.
can anyone tell me how to delete web os
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I'm using both WebOS with Preware and CM 7 a2.
If WebOS had support for the apps I'm using, I would never use Android.
Email is better, multitasking is better, everything flows great. The web browser even feels good. Honestly, it feels like a tablet should.
That being said, I wind up using Android because I need to keep my data consistent. Booting from one to the other for different tasks is not really an option, so I go where the support is.
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CM7 XRON-ified vB2.8 currently!
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Love the Xronified Android. So fast so sleek. Always flashing on my phone so couple of fcs here and there doesn't affect me. Webos has potential but not mature enough as android.
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Xron2.7 is on my Christmas gift. So far so good.
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I have a touchpad on the way. Deal maker was dual boot ability. I had a webOS phone but it is a Pre Plus that will never be updated. So I came over to the dark side.
Now I'm looking forward to webOS again. Will try to go straight webOs for a while cefore jumping into loading cm7
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android all the way... havent used webos since i flashed cm7
Touchpad + WebOs =
I unboxed my 32GB Touchpad and carried it to my computer to install Android.
I booted it up, connected it to my wifi, played with WebOs and the HP app store. Fell in love with WebOs and downloaded all the apps I thought I could possibly use. Shut down computer and forgot about Android. My Touchpad with WebOs 3.02 is fast, beautiful, and the app store is plenty big enough for me. I love Android on my Samsung Vibrant rooted with a custom rom installed.
What I love about this tablet is that it is awesome with just WebOS installed but if I want I can Android, Windows, or Linux on this baby. Got my wife a Xoom and I'm worried if she sees my Touchpad in action she just might want to trade. Ever seen a grown man cry. I swear I would!
i use alpha 2 because i watch a lot of video on my tp. 3.5 still not as good as alpha 2 for video.
WebOS 100%. There are a few reasons for that. WebOS just looks much better on a tablet than Gingerbread, apps look 10x better, I like WebOS better for a tablet, and all the apps I need for Android are already on my phone. Maybe when ICS comes out that will change but I'd never give up WebOS for Android 2.3. For my phone, I much prefer Android for the widgets.
Does anyone in this forum actually use webOS or is everyone just using Android on their Touchpad? I just got my Touchpad yesterday so I havent been around these forums much until now. I just see everyone talking about Cyanogenmod and everything else that has to do with Android. I would like to start some webOS talk if anyone is interested.
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Does anyone in this forum actually use webOS or is everyone just using Android on their Touchpad? I just got my Touchpad yesterday so I havent been around these forums much until now. I just see everyone talking about Cyanogenmod and everything else that has to do with Android. I would like to start some webOS talk if anyone is interested.
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The problem with WebOS is that it has been discontinued, is not as versatile as Android, and has like no apps compared with Android.
I have used both on the touchpad, and I can guarantee you if you flashed CM9 and dual-booted both OS's for one day each, you'd stick to Android after that.
There's not a whole lot to talk about WebOS, it's nice, but it's obsolete.
videos are a bit hopeless on quite a few versions of android, so i stick with WebOS for watching movies and stuff via VPN, internet is a grey area, sometimes i prefer when webOS just works as opposed to android browser throwing a fit.
apps.....yh android is 100 times better now that we have ICS
I love the webOS UI. I have an android phone and used to have a webOS phone so I am familiar with both. I agree android has more apps which makes it more usable with most people. But webOS does a better job with how things look and feel in my opinion. I will be installing cm9 on it tonight but will still use both operating systems for different things. I'm hoping with webOS going open source we will see both these operating systems grow with eachother.
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I used webOS exclusively until ICS. At least webOS was tablet optimized. CM7 was unbearable to me. webOS is intuitive, stable, snappy, and smooth. The default browser in webOS renders well and handles flash great. Advanced browser added some nice features.
You will find a lot more talk of people using the TouchPad on webOS at webOS nation, formerly precentral. They also have a lot more guides about webOS optimization, like over clocking, preware, and more. XDA is dominated by android, so it makes sense most of the users here run ICS. I have a brother in law that bought a TouchPad at full price before the fire sale. He loves it and webOS, he didn't know you could put Android on it.
To me it comes down to use. I use my tablet for almost 90% web browsing. On GB web browsing was terrible. But ICS brings solid web browsing that I feel is faster than the webOS browser. Then while I'm in there I get to plug into my Google stuff easier.
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quarlow said:
I used webOS exclusively until ICS. At least webOS was tablet optimized. CM7 was unbearable to me. webOS is intuitive, stable, snappy, and smooth. The default browser in webOS renders well and handles flash great. Advanced browser added some nice features.
You will find a lot more talk of people using the TouchPad on webOS at webOS nation, formerly precentral. They also have a lot more guides about webOS optimization, like over clocking, preware, and more. XDA is dominated by android, so it makes sense most of the users here run ICS. I have a brother in law that bought a TouchPad at full price before the fire sale. He loves it and webOS, he didn't know you could put Android on it.
To me it comes down to use. I use my tablet for almost 90% web browsing. On GB web browsing was terrible. But ICS brings solid web browsing that I feel is faster than the webOS browser. Then while I'm in there I get to plug into my Google stuff easier.
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Thanks for your opinion. I am a member of webOS Nation too. I'm just over here more since I have a Droid X2. I think a lot of users have left the forums over there too, sadly. I guess I'll be jumping back and forth.
I purchased my Touchpad during the initial fire sale, with the goal of installing Android on it. I found that I actually like WebOS, so I never installed Android and don't plan on it at this point. I don't care that there are not as many apps on WebOS as there are on Android. I have an Android phone and Galaxy Tab, and don't have very many apps installed on either one of those either. I like how smooth and intuitive that WebOS is, and I love it's interface. So, WebOS is a keeper for me.
If I ever feel like I absolutely have to have an ICS device, then I'll just go out and purchase one with the OS already installed on it (provided that it's a decent price).
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videos are a bit hopeless on quite a few versions of android, so i stick with WebOS for watching movies and stuff via VPN, internet is a grey area, sometimes i prefer when webOS just works as opposed to android browser throwing a fit.
apps.....yh android is 100 times better now that we have ICS
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HW acceleration works now on CM9 so videos should not be choppy (none of mine are, netflix works 100% great and so does YouTube HD)
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I love the webOS UI. I have an android phone and used to have a webOS phone so I am familiar with both. I agree android has more apps which makes it more usable with most people. But webOS does a better job with how things look and feel in my opinion. I will be installing cm9 on it tonight but will still use both operating systems for different things. I'm hoping with webOS going open source we will see both these operating systems grow with eachother.
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that's the thing, only one of those operating systems is going to "grow"
I get that WebOS is open source now, but the difference is that Google is still making new versions of Android, but NO ONE is making new versions of WebOS, so it is just a losing proposition.
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that's the thing, only one of those operating systems is going to "grow"
I get that WebOS is open source now, but the difference is that Google is still making new versions of Android, but NO ONE is making new versions of WebOS, so it is just a losing proposition.
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webOS isnt even fully open source yet. No one can really do anything with what HP has given them so far. But once developers get a hold of a fully open source product, only time will tell if we will see another "version of webOS" or big improvements on what is already there. Im just being optimistic about the whole open source thing and hoping to see SOME good come out of it. I will have Android on my device as well for future development on the Android side of things.
I too have been an Android convert since my wife got the G1 from T mobile several years ago. Then I went to the Droid X. Then a galaxy tab 7 and now a Razr.
I wanted a larger tablet and saw the price of iPad and others and thought I would just keep what I had. When I read that the touchpad could run android and they were just $200 a few months ago, I bought 3. Then sold one, gave one as a gift and kept one.
I really like webOS. I use it for just surfing, email and the front facing camera works with Skype. Ics still has no ffc. So with webOS it doesn't matter.
I think the touchpad is one of the best tablets out there. You have the great feel of webOS on one side and the flasoholics dream on the other.
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So I bought my tp about a week ago, and played with webOS for about two hours before/while installing android on it. I laugh at anyone who wants to "remove" webOS from this tablet. It is a fantastic operating system. But you have to admit, android's app selection is a huge, huge pro to installing ics. Whether you care or not is irrelevant. Both OS's are solid and stable, both have their pros and cons. I can see myself using webOS 100% of the time if their app selection half way caught up with android. As it is, webOS is a very nice alternative if your android is bugging out for whatever reason, and android is a nice alternative if you want more apps than webOS offers.
Hopefully, the open sourcing of webOS will give a huge boost to the dev community, for both OS's. Imagine having webOS with a ton of mods and customizations and apps, while having android with flawless wifi and camera. I would love to see that happen. Then we would literally have the best tablet available!
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Does anyone in this forum actually use webOS or is everyone just using Android on their Touchpad? I just got my Touchpad yesterday so I havent been around these forums much until now. I just see everyone talking about Cyanogenmod and everything else that has to do with Android. I would like to start some webOS talk if anyone is interested.
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The reason why you see everyone here talking about android and cyanogenmod is because you are in an predominantly android forum. Its like asking where the apple users have gone in a Linux forum...you can try webosnation forums for webos related stuff and chat
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I use only webos on my touchpad and see no reason to use cm9.
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I use only webos on my touchpad and see no reason to use cm9.
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Unless disk space is an issue, I see no reason not to run both.
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I use only webos on my touchpad and see no reason to use cm9.
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Agreed, unfortunately there are not a lot of apps out for webOS. If the OpenMobile ACL project takes off soon then this may be a thing of the past, until then I'm happily running ICS on my touchpad.
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Unless disk space is an issue, I see no reason not to run both.
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I agree. I bought the 32 gig because I knew I was going to install android on it. 32 gigs is a lot of space so like you said, I see no reason not to if you have the extra space. If it wasnt for the apps on android though, I wouldn't bother.
How anyone can stand the WebOS browser is beyond me. Absolute garbage. I couldn't flash Android fast enough.
I used webOS for as long as it was reasonable to do so - but CM9 is clearly a better choice for almost anyone. I tweaked and fiddled and played with webOS to get the most seamless experience possible, spending a TON of time on it, and in the end it's just a ton of effort expended to bring the device up to "adequate". Most of the fixes and tweaks etc that I recommended should have been baked into the code for webOS -years- ago. It's really a shame how hard they dropped the ball - and this is coming from someone who's been a webOS convert since I bought my very first pre- on launch day and has put up with all the negatives. SOOOOOO much promise, massive failure to deliver. I can't help but feel like even the open-source effort is a bit slow and stalling, and the timeline on this is doing nothing but sending experienced devs who -were- webOS faithful on to other devices.
As it sits, the touchpad running CM9 is one of the most capable ICS-equipped tablets on the market. It's a beast in terms of CPU, graphics, screen, etc. The newest nightlies run beautifully. I can't see any reason why a TP owner wouldn't want CM9 installed on their touchpad. Even if you still use webOS (I do from time to time), having CM9 on there is a no-brainer. 20 seconds and you've rebooted into CM9 ready to use it's vast array of apps, enjoy a much more capable web browsing experience, and generally massively improve the usefulness of your tablet. There's no downside.
That's why the webOS users are a bit sparse, and that's a trend I only see continuing.
Just landed into this forum after get the link from Google, shows that Touchpad was heavily installed with Android in it (mostly CM9?).
Currently I'm using only WebOS on my Touchpad, not yet try to install CM9 on it. Only have 16GB version. Previous day have a plan to get 32GB version, so I can install CM9 on it, but now changes a plan a little bit for it.
Meanwhile, I try to keep watching the progress on this forum, about Android usage on Touchpad. If someday I will install CM9 on it, it should be dual-boot. Hopefully after WebOS become open source fully, like Android, many apps appears for it.
I never run into space issues running webOS and CM9 on a 16 GB. I see it as a cloud based device. Without an internet connection I wouldn't use it. I stream everything, so I don't store any content on it. Loaded with apps, I still have more than half the system partition free, and like 2/3 the storage space free.
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