I use my Evo's at the fringe area of sprint's network. Yesterday I had the 3D and the 4G ( within a couple of min of each other) try to sync friend stream. The original Evo 4G did it with no problem. I ended up having to allow data roaming on the 3D so it could access the "ether".
BTW the wife's evo shift had 3G so wtf 3D ?
I'm wondering it this is a singular experience or the radio needs a tuning upgrade? Probably another point for having an unlocked boot loader. Hey if sprint pays the roaming ....
willy900wonka said:
I use my Evo's at the fringe area of sprint's network. Yesterday I had the 3D and the 4G ( within a couple of min of each other) try to sync friend stream. The original Evo 4G did it with no problem. I ended up having to allow data roaming on the 3D so it could access the "ether".
BTW the wife's evo shift had 3G so wtf 3D ?
I'm wondering it this is a singular experience or the radio needs a tuning upgrade? Probably another point for having an unlocked boot loader. Hey if sprint pays the roaming ....
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I'm noticing reduced 2G and 3G reception too...judging by the Sense "bars" at home I'm in a kinda fringe area....and on the 4G I would get 3...sometimes 4, more often 2 bars. On the 3D I get 0 to 2 bars, most often 1.
Though perhaps they changed those bars to reflect 3G instead of 2G....I know the 2G coverage around here better than 3G by a small bit. As far as usability/performance I have noticed no difference....except at work in the bathroom, noticeably lower speeds/threshold for roaming...potential deal breaker
But I imagine a radio update would be able to address this, perhaps it already has been...I'm not applying any OTA for now though.
But, yeah, slightly weaker 3G performance....but I can live with it.
It gets me thinking though, if we can't get this thing unlocked in the 30-day window and I take it back and wait for the SGS2, which will likely have the usual lackluster Samsung radios....will that be roughly the same as this? Cuz i can live with that, or will it be worse? Cuz I couldn't deal with reception less than this...not even by a hair, I'm already on cusp.....but, if it is the same or better then I have no concerns....
I've been trying to get this problem noticed by the community here but i think there may have been a bad batch of phones. I'll try to get mine replaced
Edit: download open signal on both devices and compare the dbm level on both phones
I live less than 10 miles from the Sprint headquarters and can't get 4G connection in my neighborhood. I certainly didn't expect this to be what all the hype was about.
willy900wonka said:
I use my Evo's at the fringe area of sprint's network. Yesterday I had the 3D and the 4G ( within a couple of min of each other) try to sync friend stream. The original Evo 4G did it with no problem. I ended up having to allow data roaming on the 3D so it could access the "ether".
BTW the wife's evo shift had 3G so wtf 3D ?
I'm wondering it this is a singular experience or the radio needs a tuning upgrade? Probably another point for having an unlocked boot loader. Hey if sprint pays the roaming ....
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I used to need an Airave, then I moved. I had full bars in my home on my EVO 4G and my wife did also on her Palm Pre. I called Sprint and told them I no longer needed the Access Point and to send a return kit. I picked the EVO 3D up two days later, and I now need to keep the Airave. My wife still enjoys full bars on the EVO I gave her, but I get 1 bar consistently, at home.
I also used to get 5 bars in my office with my EVO, I get 2 if I'm lucky with the 3D. Between the ****ty reception and the lag, its probably going back before the 30 days are up. I love the hell out of the phone otherwise, but it lags too much. Poor reception, though, thats a deal breaker for me.
I have both phones and I can tell you I get much better reception with the 3D than I do with the evo. On 4G I get 1 bar with the evo and 2 bars with the 3D. Im also noticing that on the 3D 4G stays on all the time on my evo it would switch drop the 4G connection all the time and I had to disable/enable 4G in order for it to connect again.
I've been noticing a LOT of roaming happening on my 3d lately, in comparison to my OG evo, it's a lot worse. Otherwise, I have an airrave at home, I wanna get something like that for work. I guess you have to make a tradeoff somewhere, amazing battery life with ****ty reception, or decent reception with horrible battery life. I take the 1st one.
Plus I'm finally finding 4g in my area
Noticing a lot of roaming on my 3D as well. Never saw it on my Evo.
I may be, at a cross roads in some twenty days.
At least Sprint will be able to verify my issue, since roaming is probably logged.
I noticed the reception of the evo 3d is not that good. I can barely ride my bicycle with internet radio playing. Also bluetooth range is less then my motorola droid when connecting to the same devices. Did HTC make a good phone with poor reception capability, or is it sprint that has bad coverage?
I am considering trying a Nexus S since I'm still within the first 30 days of service. Does that phone have better reception?
Thank for your feedback
I would ask in the Nexus S forums...
My EVO 3D gets very poor signal and reception. Much worse than my regular EVO 4G. I noticed this right away as soon as I activated it and wasnt able to get as good of signal in good coverage areas like I could with previous EVO 4G. Its a combination of poor radio performance as well as poor Sprint service. The EVO 3D is definetely not a good "phone" and that's the most important thing to me.
I had to get rid of my Samsung Galaxy S due to poor reception. I then switched to the Optimus P500 and it was great for reception. I recently got the EVO3D and have had no complaints so far on Rogers in Canada, even in the remote Milton areas where it was questionable with the Galaxy.
so I went from a G2 to a sensation and I've been very pleased except for the data reception, I live in a 2g/edge area, my G2 used to get about 256mbps off of our tower but the most I have even seen from the senny is like 95mbps.
Anyone know if the amaze gets better signal strength on edge/2g?
I'm also looking for any other information that could help me decide what to do,
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so I went from a G2 to a sensation and I've been very pleased except for the data reception, I live in a 2g/edge area, my G2 used to get about 256mbps off of our tower but the most I have even seen from the senny is like 95mbps.
Anyone know if the amaze gets better signal strength on edge/2g?
I'm also looking for any other information that could help me decide what to do,
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I went the exact same route.. G2 to Sensation to Amaze. In my area I definitely think that the Amaze has the best radio of the three. I get more consistent 4G coverage with it. Could be quite different for you however. I guess the one downfall would be that with the G2 and Sensation we had s-off and a variety of radios available to flash to try and get better reception or data coverage. We don't have that luxury with the Amaze unfortunately and no solution in sight. Much better overall phone however!
And I am almost on the same path.. HD-HD2-DHD-Sensation and now thinking of an AMAZE..
Cant make up my mind as I have no particular reason as to why i should retire my sensation...
Is it really better?
I went from G2 to Amaze and its night and day difference. On the G2 I only had edge at home with the Amaze I get two bars of 4G. G2 was a great phone and I miss the keyboard but I wouldn't go back.
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Am thinking about the evo 4g lte because I've read excellent reviews about the call quality. I already know I won't be getting lte in my area for a long time. Are the 3g speeds actually worse on this model as compared with other Sprint models ? (some reviews have claimed this)
My 3g is slow enough as it is on my HTC Touch (can live with it though), but won't be able to accept anything slower.
i have kno problems with this phone.. its perfect for me im just bored with it... i need a new phone every 6 months i think!!! lol..
I'm hoping the following review is incorrect:
The ugly:
This is where the phone starts to fall apart for me. The network capabilities are awful. They are a clear downgrade from my Evo 4g. I live in Kansas City, and my old Evo 4g had both excellent 3g coverage, and excellent WiMax coverage. Ping times were the only problem I had with WiMax (typically in the 200-300 range), but I typically got 3-7Mbps down and ~1Mbps up with very reliable coverage, especially in my home. Outside of WiMax range, I reliably got 3g coverage that pulled ~1-2Mbps down and up. This is what I would expect, given that I am in Sprint's home market.
I upgraded to the Evo 4g LTE after hearing that LTE was officially "live" in Kansas City. Unfortunately the news that I missed was that by "live", they really mean "about 30% live". There is little to no actual LTE coverage in the city. At my apartment, where WiMax was previously very strong, I can only connect to LTE rarely, and when I do the signal is so weak that my connection times out regularly. Watching antenna strength, the LTE connection sits around -115 to -120dBm (in non-technical terms, that is just a hair above zero bars). I actually disabled the LTE antenna on my phone because it is disruptive FAR more often than it is useful.
"So what", you might say. "Just use 3g". I would agree with you. 3g should be able to get me by in the next few months while Sprint continues their LTE rollout, hopefully with an antenna near my home. Unfortunately the phone's 3g antenna is also highly problematic. 3g signal pickup is weaker than my old Evo 4g, and speeds are considerably worse than my previous phone. Pings usually sit around 200, which is acceptable, but I almost never get above 0.5Mbps down, or up. Additionally (and even more importantly), the phone has a habit of dropping the 3g signal. I tether often, and when I do I tend to lose 3g every few minutes. This is in close proximity to a 3g tower, and with a strong signal (4-5 bars, in the -70 to -80dBm range). The phone will just inexplicably lose 3g connectivity. Google around a bit and find out: this is a known problem that many people are dealing with, and HTC/Sprint have acknowledged the issue and are trying to rectify it. Problem is, it isn't fixed. I truly hope that in the near future an OTA update will fix the problems... after all, I'm basically stuck with this phone for the next 23 months. The network issues are bad enough that I really do miss my old Evo 4g, and I'm very tempted to reactivate it.
Conclusion: at the end of the day, the Evo 4g LTE is a phone, and as such I think the network issues are a pretty big deal. If you are on WiFi constantly, then they won't be an issue for you, but if you're dependent upon Sprint's network in any way, be very careful... this phone has some major baggage.
Update 9/25/2012: A couple OTA updates later, and it is still in pretty bad shape. I am very used to 500ms+ ping now, and 0.1Mbps download/upload speeds. 4g coverage is still nonexistant. According to xda and s4gru, this problem is SPECIFIC TO THE EVO 4g LTE. As in an iPhone 5 and SGIII will both connect just fine to 4g, but an Evo in the same room will not.
Try this neat trick: Go to craigslist and search for Evo 4g LTE. See how many nearly new Evos are being sold for less than half the price of a new one? That speaks more volumes than my review does
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http://wireless.amazon.com/customerreviews/B007ZUN6GS/ref=cr_detail_histogram_top
These post really make me scratch my head...In Memphis LTE is only a month old and only in the northern parts of the city...constant 15mbs+ and elsewhere 4g isnt on yet 3G is maxed out....I never have any problems maintaining a over decent connection on 3G.....it's just odd how much I hear how crappy the ELTE is.....Is it really a bad phone and I'm just in a city where Sprint has it act together or are some of you vice-versa??
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These post really make me scratch my head...In Memphis LTE is only a month old and only in the northern parts of the city...constant 15mbs+ and elsewhere 4g isnt on yet 3G is maxed out....I never have any problems maintaining a over decent connection on 3G.....it's just odd how much I hear how crappy the ELTE is.....Is it really a bad phone and I'm just in a city where Sprint has it act together or are some of you vice-versa??
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I sure would like to know before I upgrade to this device.
TravisBean said:
Am thinking about the evo 4g lte because I've read excellent reviews about the call quality. I already know I won't be getting lte in my area for a long time. Are the 3g speeds actually worse on this model as compared with other Sprint models ? (some reviews have claimed this)
My 3g is slow enough as it is on my HTC Touch (can live with it though), but won't be able to accept anything slower.
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My 3g has been much better than my old HTC Hero and better than my Dad's og Evo(not to mention my mom's Samsung Nexus S, My brothers' Samsung, Motorola, and my sister's iCrap 4s).
As long as you stick to stock based roms, you'll be fine. HTC has some great tweaks that cm10 and aosp roms don't have that seem to boost bandwidth and 3g speeds.
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Test it out. Set a timer for 13 days just to be sure.. Thats why carriers give you the 14 day trial period to make sure your happy before being stuck 2 more years with them.
I for one am happy with my EVO LTE. I also have a GS3 and from time to time go back and forth.
I had a chance to spend about 3 minutes with this device today at the Sprint store. Love at first sight. I can't put into words how elegantly this phone felt in my hand.
Didn't have time to check out the 3g connectivity, but call quality did seem above average for a Sprint phone.
Can you download a larger format dial pad for this phone (that works properly) ?
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I'm in Boston mass 4g is 27-34 mgb and 3g is about 3-5 on my lte no issues
pbedard said:
I'm in Boston mass 4g is 27-34 mgb and 3g is about 3-5 on my lte no issues
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Are you saying you're getting 3-5 Mbps download speeds while connected to 3G?
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hi to all ... i bought this evo 3d a few days ago..and its rly a good phone.. but i have signal reception problems ... its never full network coverage...maybe 2-3 bars of signal indicator. and when im a lil bit away from downtown i got no network coverage... my phone isnt rooted or anything like that. im newbie totaly in this android world... so could anyone give me an answer how to fix that or what to do to improve signal reception...
First thing to try is to update everything...
System
Prl
Profile
If that doesn't work, make sure there is no network outages.
Then you're sol unless you feel like rooting and getting s off
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Sadly, I think this phone just has extremely poor signal reception. I have the same problems at times when friends and coworkers in the same area on different phones are fine.